Re: Sending an FTP command from one web server to another?

[Tim Selander via use-livecode]

Richard,

Have never written a CGI in my life but you got me thinking; a 
quick Google found me a php script to "print" a folder listing.


So now my .lc script on my on-rev serve puts the url of the .php 
page on the server with the mp3s into a variable -- which gives 
me the list of file names I was trying to get via ftp. Works slick.


Thanks!

Tim Selander
Tokyo, Japan

On 2017.07.19, 2:16, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote:

Tim Selander wrote:

 > My company gave up on hosting our email and website at on-rev.com
 > back when they were having lots of reliability problems. We're
using
 > a host in Japan; no LC server installed, nor is it installable.
 >
 > I still have our Founder's account on on-rev.com, and use
quite a few
 > .lc scripts, calling them from iframes in web pages hosted on
the new
 > host.
 >
 > Our radio programs' mp3 files are stored on the new host. I
want one
 > of my scripts on on-rev.com to get the directory listing of
the mp3
 > files on the new host.

FTP is probably not the best solution for this, for reasons too
numerable to list this morning.

But for the task as described, other simpler, more efficient, and
more secure alternatives exist:

Can you run a CGI on the server holding the MP3 files to obtain
that list?

Or, if they're within you're web root, can you use Apache's
directory listing?



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Re: Sending an FTP command from one web server to another?

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

Tim Selander wrote:

> My company gave up on hosting our email and website at on-rev.com
> back when they were having lots of reliability problems. We're using
> a host in Japan; no LC server installed, nor is it installable.
>
> I still have our Founder's account on on-rev.com, and use quite a few
> .lc scripts, calling them from iframes in web pages hosted on the new
> host.
>
> Our radio programs' mp3 files are stored on the new host. I want one
> of my scripts on on-rev.com to get the directory listing of the mp3
> files on the new host.

FTP is probably not the best solution for this, for reasons too 
numerable to list this morning.


But for the task as described, other simpler, more efficient, and more 
secure alternatives exist:


Can you run a CGI on the server holding the MP3 files to obtain that list?

Or, if they're within you're web root, can you use Apache's directory 
listing?


--
 Richard Gaskin
 Fourth World Systems
 Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
 
 ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com

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Re: Sending an FTP command from one web server to another?

[Warren Samples via use-livecode]

On 07/18/2017 03:38 AM, Tim Selander via use-livecode wrote:


Any ideas why the connection would be refused when coming from on-rev, 
but not LC desktop? Anyways around this?



You might check your hosting account settings to see if there are any 
user, IP, or geo access restrictions set up. Maybe you could add a user 
and perhaps whitelist the on-rev server IP for that user?


Good luck!

Warren

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Re: Sending an FTP command from one web server to another?

[Tim Selander via use-livecode]

Hi again Matthias,

I remembered I was given an ftp account on a colleague's server 
awhile back -- tried that and got access with both LC server and 
via ssh on sage.on-rev.


So gmoserver.jp is blocking access from sage.on-rev somehow...

Back to the drawing board.

Thanks for your time and input.

Tim


On 2017.07.18, 20:34, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode wrote:

Hi Tim,

i had some time during lunch and  made a quick test on my on-rev account at the 
Jasmine server.
I am able to list the files of a non on-rev server without problems using 
livecode server. Jasmine runs version 7.1.0 of lc server.

Regards,
Matthias



Matthias Rebbe
+49 5741 31
‌matthiasrebbe.eu ‌


Am 18.07.2017 um 12:50 schrieb Tim Selander via use-livecode 
>:

Hi Matthias,

Good idea. I just sent support an email asking to have ssh activated!

I'll post again with results!

Tim Selander
Tokyo, Japan

On 2017.07.18, 19:12, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode wrote:

Do you have ssh access for your on-rev  account? If not, ask support to enable 
it for you.

Try to use ftp from the commandline, just to see if gmoserver.jp  
> accepts that connection. If that also 
doesn´t work, then i would assume that your server is blocking the incoming connection from 
on-rev. If that works, then  livecode server seems to have a problem with ftp outgoing 
connections.

Matthias
Matthias Rebbe
+49 5741 31
‌matthiasrebbe.eu  >‌


Am 18.07.2017 um 10:38 schrieb Tim Selander via use-livecode  >>:

Hi,

My company gave up on hosting our email and website at on-rev.com  
> back when they were having lots of 
reliability problems. We're using a host in Japan; no LC server installed, nor is it installable.

I still have our Founder's account on on-rev.com  
>, and use quite a few .lc scripts, calling 
them from iframes in web pages hosted on the new host.

Our radio programs' mp3 files are stored on the new host. I want one of my scripts on on-rev.com 
 > to get the 
directory listing of the mp3 files on the new host. The ftp command from LC tutorials works fine 
from LC desktop (Community edition, Mac) to get the filelist:
put url "ftp://user:p...@domain.com/folder/  
>" into myVariable

Put when I call it from the server .lc script on on-rev, the result is:
error Failed to connect to gmoserver.jp  > port 21: Connection refused

(gmoserver.jp  > is our new host here in Japan.)

Any ideas why the connection would be refused when coming from on-rev, but not 
LC desktop? Anyways around this?

Thanks in advance.

Tim Selander
Tokyo, Japan




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Re: Sending an FTP command from one web server to another?

[Tim Selander via use-livecode]

Hi again,

Reporting back for

RevRun support was very quick at activating ssh on my account -- 
thanks!


However, using ftp from the commandline to gmoserver.jp resulted 
in the same message: connection refused


OK, time to take a new tack on the problem!

Thanks for the tip, Matthias.

Tim Selander
Tokyo, Japan

On 2017.07.18, 19:12, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode wrote:

Do you have ssh access for your on-rev  account? If not, ask support to enable 
it for you.

Try to use ftp from the commandline, just to see if gmoserver.jp 
 accepts that connection. If that also doesn´t work, then 
i would assume that your server is blocking the incoming connection from on-rev. If 
that works, then  livecode server seems to have a problem with ftp outgoing 
connections.

Matthias
Matthias Rebbe
+49 5741 31
‌matthiasrebbe.eu ‌


Am 18.07.2017 um 10:38 schrieb Tim Selander via use-livecode 
>:

Hi,

My company gave up on hosting our email and website at on-rev.com 
 back when they were having lots of reliability problems. 
We're using a host in Japan; no LC server installed, nor is it installable.

I still have our Founder's account on on-rev.com , and use 
quite a few .lc scripts, calling them from iframes in web pages hosted on the new 
host.

Our radio programs' mp3 files are stored on the new host. I want one of my scripts on 
on-rev.com  to get the directory listing of the mp3 files 
on the new host. The ftp command from LC tutorials works fine from LC desktop 
(Community edition, Mac) to get the filelist:
put url "ftp://user:p...@domain.com/folder/ 
" into myVariable

Put when I call it from the server .lc script on on-rev, the result is:
error Failed to connect to gmoserver.jp  port 21: 
Connection refused

(gmoserver.jp  is our new host here in Japan.)

Any ideas why the connection would be refused when coming from on-rev, but not 
LC desktop? Anyways around this?

Thanks in advance.

Tim Selander
Tokyo, Japan





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Re: Sending an FTP command from one web server to another?

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

Hi Tim,

i had some time during lunch and  made a quick test on my on-rev account at the 
Jasmine server. 
I am able to list the files of a non on-rev server without problems using 
livecode server. Jasmine runs version 7.1.0 of lc server.

Regards,
Matthias



Matthias Rebbe
+49 5741 31
‌matthiasrebbe.eu ‌

> Am 18.07.2017 um 12:50 schrieb Tim Selander via use-livecode 
> >:
> 
> Hi Matthias,
> 
> Good idea. I just sent support an email asking to have ssh activated!
> 
> I'll post again with results!
> 
> Tim Selander
> Tokyo, Japan
> 
> On 2017.07.18, 19:12, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode wrote:
>> Do you have ssh access for your on-rev  account? If not, ask support to 
>> enable it for you.
>> 
>> Try to use ftp from the commandline, just to see if gmoserver.jp 
>>  > accepts 
>> that connection. If that also doesn´t work, then i would assume that your 
>> server is blocking the incoming connection from on-rev. If that works, then  
>> livecode server seems to have a problem with ftp outgoing connections.
>> 
>> Matthias
>> Matthias Rebbe
>> +49 5741 31
>> ‌matthiasrebbe.eu  > >‌
>> 
>>> Am 18.07.2017 um 10:38 schrieb Tim Selander via use-livecode 
>>>  
>>> >> >>:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> My company gave up on hosting our email and website at on-rev.com 
>>>  > back when 
>>> they were having lots of reliability problems. We're using a host in Japan; 
>>> no LC server installed, nor is it installable.
>>> 
>>> I still have our Founder's account on on-rev.com  
>>> >, and use quite a few .lc scripts, 
>>> calling them from iframes in web pages hosted on the new host.
>>> 
>>> Our radio programs' mp3 files are stored on the new host. I want one of my 
>>> scripts on on-rev.com  >> > to get the directory listing of the mp3 files on the 
>>> new host. The ftp command from LC tutorials works fine from LC desktop 
>>> (Community edition, Mac) to get the filelist:
>>> put url "ftp://user:p...@domain.com/folder/ 
>>>  >> >" into myVariable
>>> 
>>> Put when I call it from the server .lc script on on-rev, the result is:
>>> error Failed to connect to gmoserver.jp  
>>> > port 21: Connection refused
>>> 
>>> (gmoserver.jp  >> > is our new host here in Japan.)
>>> 
>>> Any ideas why the connection would be refused when coming from on-rev, but 
>>> not LC desktop? Anyways around this?
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>> 
>>> Tim Selander
>>> Tokyo, Japan
>>> 
> 
> 
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Re: Sending an FTP command from one web server to another?

[Tim Selander via use-livecode]

Hi Matthias,

Good idea. I just sent support an email asking to have ssh activated!

I'll post again with results!

Tim Selander
Tokyo, Japan

On 2017.07.18, 19:12, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode wrote:

Do you have ssh access for your on-rev  account? If not, ask support to enable 
it for you.

Try to use ftp from the commandline, just to see if gmoserver.jp 
 accepts that connection. If that also doesn´t work, then 
i would assume that your server is blocking the incoming connection from on-rev. If 
that works, then  livecode server seems to have a problem with ftp outgoing 
connections.

Matthias
Matthias Rebbe
+49 5741 31
‌matthiasrebbe.eu ‌


Am 18.07.2017 um 10:38 schrieb Tim Selander via use-livecode 
>:

Hi,

My company gave up on hosting our email and website at on-rev.com 
 back when they were having lots of reliability problems. 
We're using a host in Japan; no LC server installed, nor is it installable.

I still have our Founder's account on on-rev.com , and use 
quite a few .lc scripts, calling them from iframes in web pages hosted on the new 
host.

Our radio programs' mp3 files are stored on the new host. I want one of my scripts on 
on-rev.com  to get the directory listing of the mp3 files 
on the new host. The ftp command from LC tutorials works fine from LC desktop 
(Community edition, Mac) to get the filelist:
put url "ftp://user:p...@domain.com/folder/ 
" into myVariable

Put when I call it from the server .lc script on on-rev, the result is:
error Failed to connect to gmoserver.jp  port 21: 
Connection refused

(gmoserver.jp  is our new host here in Japan.)

Any ideas why the connection would be refused when coming from on-rev, but not 
LC desktop? Anyways around this?

Thanks in advance.

Tim Selander
Tokyo, Japan




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Re: Sending an FTP command from one web server to another?

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

Do you have ssh access for your on-rev  account? If not, ask support to enable 
it for you.

Try to use ftp from the commandline, just to see if gmoserver.jp 
 accepts that connection. If that also doesn´t work, then 
i would assume that your server is blocking the incoming connection from 
on-rev. If that works, then  livecode server seems to have a problem with ftp 
outgoing connections.

Matthias
Matthias Rebbe
+49 5741 31
‌matthiasrebbe.eu ‌

> Am 18.07.2017 um 10:38 schrieb Tim Selander via use-livecode 
> >:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> My company gave up on hosting our email and website at on-rev.com 
>  back when they were having lots of reliability problems. 
> We're using a host in Japan; no LC server installed, nor is it installable.
> 
> I still have our Founder's account on on-rev.com , and 
> use quite a few .lc scripts, calling them from iframes in web pages hosted on 
> the new host.
> 
> Our radio programs' mp3 files are stored on the new host. I want one of my 
> scripts on on-rev.com  to get the directory listing of 
> the mp3 files on the new host. The ftp command from LC tutorials works fine 
> from LC desktop (Community edition, Mac) to get the filelist:
> put url "ftp://user:p...@domain.com/folder/ 
> " into myVariable
> 
> Put when I call it from the server .lc script on on-rev, the result is:
> error Failed to connect to gmoserver.jp  port 21: 
> Connection refused
> 
> (gmoserver.jp  is our new host here in Japan.)
> 
> Any ideas why the connection would be refused when coming from on-rev, but 
> not LC desktop? Anyways around this?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Tim Selander
> Tokyo, Japan
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Sending an FTP command from one web server to another?

[Tim Selander via use-livecode]

Hi,

My company gave up on hosting our email and website at on-rev.com back 
when they were having lots of reliability problems. We're using a host 
in Japan; no LC server installed, nor is it installable.


I still have our Founder's account on on-rev.com, and use quite a few 
.lc scripts, calling them from iframes in web pages hosted on the new host.


Our radio programs' mp3 files are stored on the new host. I want one of 
my scripts on on-rev.com to get the directory listing of the mp3 files 
on the new host. The ftp command from LC tutorials works fine from LC 
desktop (Community edition, Mac) to get the filelist:

put url "ftp://user:p...@domain.com/folder/; into myVariable

Put when I call it from the server .lc script on on-rev, the result is:
error Failed to connect to gmoserver.jp port 21: Connection refused

(gmoserver.jp is our new host here in Japan.)

Any ideas why the connection would be refused when coming from on-rev, 
but not LC desktop? Anyways around this?


Thanks in advance.

Tim Selander
Tokyo, Japan





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