Re: Upcoming MacOS 14.5 with software “notarization” requirements

2019-04-16 Thread Tom Glod via use-livecode
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Re: Upcoming MacOS 14.5 with software “notarization” requirements

2019-04-16 Thread Richmond via use-livecode
This is one of the reasons, having been given a swanky, new 2018 Mac Mini I have kept hold of my Polycarbonate iMac running Mac OS 107 and a Polycarbonate PPC iMac running MacOS 10.4, 10.5 and "Classic". Richmond. On 16.04.19 18:18, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: I agree with most of what

Re: Upcoming MacOS 14.5 with software “notarization” requirements

2019-04-16 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I agree with most of what you said, but I've been getting alerts recently that certain apps are not optimized to run on Mojave, which is their way of telling me that some update in the near future is going to render them unusable. These are not old apps they are recently purchased apps. What

Re: Upcoming MacOS 14.5 with software “notarization” requirements

2019-04-16 Thread Richmond via use-livecode
"consistent scientific HIG again" . . . "scientific" . . . is not a word I would use about galloping subjectivity. "a bit on the obsessive control, hard-on-the-eye schemes, and planned obsolescence" Yes, these are disgusting. Not convinced about "hard-on-the-eye schemes" as they seem to be all

Re: Upcoming MacOS 14.5 with software “notarization” requirements

2019-04-16 Thread Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode
Richmond: > The frightening thing about this is that Microsoft produce a > fairly shoddy product, and as Linux has signally failed to > displace Microsoft from world dominator, it will become > ever worse and shoddier without any healthy competition. So the only scary thing about Apple doing

Re: Re: Upcoming MacOS 14.5 with software “notarization” requirements

2019-04-15 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Richmond wrote: The frightening thing about this is that Microsoft produce a fairly shoddy product, and as Linux has signally failed to displace Microsoft from world dominator, it will become ever worse and shoddier without any healthy competition. If we limit our view of computing to desktop

Re: Upcoming MacOS 14.5 with software “notarization” requirements

2019-04-15 Thread Richmond via use-livecode
The frightening thing about this is that Microsoft produce a fairly shoddy product, and as Linux has signally failed to displace Microsoft from world dominator, it will become ever worse and shoddier without any healthy competition. Richmond. On 15.04.19 19:52, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode

Re: Upcoming MacOS 14.5 with software “notarization” requirements

2019-04-15 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
My opinion, unasked for as it is, this is just another bullet in the foot of Apple, and they don't have many toes left. Bob S > On Apr 12, 2019, at 21:53 , kee nethery via use-livecode > wrote: > > My understanding from conversations with people who should know is that apps > that have

Re: Upcoming MacOS 14.5 with software “notarization” requirements

2019-04-12 Thread kee nethery via use-livecode
My understanding from conversations with people who should know is that apps that have already been approved by you on your macOS computer and are logged in your computer’s gatekeeper system to be allowed to run, will continue to be allowed to run when you update your OS. New versions and new

Re: Upcoming MacOS 14.5 with software “notarization” requirements

2019-04-11 Thread Richmond via use-livecode
"There will always" reminds me of that James Bond film, "Never Say Never Again" . . . better be careful with pronouncements like that. Richmond. On 11.04.19 г. 11:12 ч., Andre Garzia via use-livecode wrote: People forget that speed and latency are not related. Solving latency on networked

Re: Upcoming MacOS 14.5 with software “notarization” requirements

2019-04-11 Thread Andre Garzia via use-livecode
People forget that speed and latency are not related. Solving latency on networked apps is tricky. There will always be a place for Desktop apps (local apps on your computer I mean) On 10/04/2019 22:53, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: Paul Dupuis wrote: > Of course this may all be a

Re: Re: Upcoming MacOS 14.5 with software “notarization” requirements

2019-04-10 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Paul Dupuis wrote: > Of course this may all be a mute point if you believe the "industry > analysts" that say that 5G networks will kill the market for local > applications whether for iOS, Android, or desktop OSes and finally web > app will be fast enough :-) All networks can get faster, but

Re: Upcoming MacOS 14.5 with software “notarization” requirements

2019-04-10 Thread Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode
Matthias Rebbe free tools for Livecoders: https://instamaker.dermattes.de https://winsignhelper.dermattes.de > Am 10.04.2019 um 21:00 schrieb Paul Dupuis via use-livecode > mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>: > > >

Re: Upcoming MacOS 14.5 with software “notarization” requirements

2019-04-10 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
On 4/10/2019 2:05 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: I agree it's going to be an extra step. My hope is that once LC figures out how to secure their own IDE they can integrate that into the build process somehow. Maybe there could be an option after the standalone is made to submit it

Re: Upcoming MacOS 14.5 with software “notarization” requirements

2019-04-10 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
I agree it's going to be an extra step. My hope is that once LC figures out how to secure their own IDE they can integrate that into the build process somehow. Maybe there could be an option after the standalone is made to submit it to Apple for notarization. That would be great. --

Re: Upcoming MacOS 14.5 with software “notarization” requirements

2019-04-10 Thread Richmond via use-livecode
I don't think it's some secret plan either, but I do think it will make things awkward for types like me who wish to distribute demo standalones without any "undue fuss" as I am able to at the moment via sites such as macUpdate and via direct download from DropBox. The problem, and it will

Re: Upcoming MacOS 14.5 with software “notarization” requirements

2019-04-10 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
Existing software won't be affected if I understood their documentation right. They also provide information on how to test and debug during development. Really guys, go read the links. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On

Re: Upcoming MacOS 14.5 with software “notarization” requirements

2019-04-10 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
There's no review, it's an automated process that adds a security key to the files. It sounds a lot like the RSA public/private keys I added to my current project to verify that the files hadn't been tampered with. That's definitely a security thing. Gatekeeper will be updated to check that the

Re: Upcoming MacOS 14.5 with software “notarization” requirements

2019-04-10 Thread Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode
Paul: > the move to unify OSX apps under sole Apple > distributorship like iOS apps. Oh Joy! Andre: > Heck, what Apple is doing?! Perhaps a very slight adjustment to the old motto: "DON'T think different." Or else. :) Best wishes, Curry Kenworthy Custom Software Development "Better

Re: Upcoming MacOS 14.5 with software “notarization” requirements

2019-04-10 Thread Richmond via use-livecode
Presumably this means that when/if one upgrades from macOS 10.14 to 10.15 ALL software currently installed is going to stop working as none of it is notarized. This also will mean that one cannot even test one's own standalones on any machines running macOS one has at home, and is probably

Re: Upcoming MacOS 14.5 with software “notarization” requirements

2019-04-10 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
From the first link to the Apple developer site: "Important Beginning in macOS 10.14.5, all new or updated kernel extensions and all software from developers new to distributing with Developer ID must be notarized in order to run. In a future version of macOS, notarization will be required

Upcoming MacOS 14.5 with software “notarization” requirements

2019-04-09 Thread Tariel Gogoberidze via use-livecode
Hi It seems that as of MacOS 14.5 all new and updated apps would not run without been “notarized” by Apple. https://developer.apple.com/documentation/security/notarizing_your_app_before_distribution