Visual Indicators in Mac and Win?

2002-12-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi all, How do I do the following via Revolution: 1. Bounce app icon in the Mac OS X dock until a certain user action is performed 2. Flash Mac OS 9 application menu until a certain user action is performed 3. Generate and blink a system tray icon in Win32 until...blah blah Thanks in advance!

Underlined characters in button label?

2002-12-28 Thread Mark Swindell
Is it possible to format button label text so that only a few letters of the label are underlined? It seems to be all or nothing, but I'd like to be able to have a standard button with a label like "black" with just the bl underlined. Thanks, Mark ___

Re: Re[7]: groups and background

2002-12-28 Thread Dar Scott
On Saturday, December 28, 2002, at 06:34 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On Saturday, December 28, 2002, at 01:37 PM, Dar Scott wrote: Now, how do I find out if a group is shared or not? Piece of cake: if the number of cds in this bg > 1 then answer "I'm shared." Cool! I am impressed. I even g

Re: Re[7]: groups and background

2002-12-28 Thread J. Landman Gay
On Saturday, December 28, 2002, at 01:37 PM, Dar Scott wrote: Now, how do I find out if a group is shared or not? Piece of cake: if the number of cds in this bg > 1 then answer "I'm shared." -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://

card not in path of placed group

2002-12-28 Thread Dar Scott
I'm not sure whether this is a bug or more confusion about groups and backgrounds. I placed a group on a card and turned off backgroundBehavior. I don't know whether turning that off has to do with this problem. The original of the group has its card in its path. The placed version does not

Re: setting pointer location

2002-12-28 Thread Alan Gayne
Let me know how it works out. Alan On Saturday, December 28, 2002, at 04:53 PM, David Vaughan wrote: On Sunday, Dec 29, 2002, at 08:16 Australia/Sydney, Alan Gayne wrote: Hi David, Why "modeless" instead of modal dialogs? Alan, because I imagined (I haven't written it yet) that the dialog

Re: Re[7]: groups and background

2002-12-28 Thread Tariel Gogoberidze
On Sat, 28 Dec 2002 11:53:40, Dar Scott wrote: >The related question that perhaps should be asked is whether >we should ask for or suggest that this whole area is simplified, >cleaned up and made more powerful as well as easier to > understand. I liked the approach to this problem used in OMO (Or

place a group that is not on a card

2002-12-28 Thread Dar Scott
I removed a group from all cards it was on. I then tried to place it. It didn't place. I can see it in the place menu and other ways. Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Re: setting pointer location

2002-12-28 Thread DVGlasgow
In a message dated 28/12/02 2:31:39 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << it in HyperTalk; but it occurred to me that OenoLog's button-driven interface might benefit operationally if the mouse cursor could be positioned over the next default button via script. >> Having just posted a defence of mo

Re: Re[7]: groups and background

2002-12-28 Thread Dar Scott
Let's see if I got this right. * A group may have its backgroundBehavior property set to true. Such a group introduces interesting paths on any card it is on. This group is also placed on new cards under some conditions. The card/stack property backgroundNames lists all groups with thi

Re: Hangin on Wait

2002-12-28 Thread JamesHBeckmann
>playStopped is called automatically when a movie completes playback Yes, I found it. And the code works for me. I am assuming then that since I am using a player object, and not a naked movie call, that "movie" message is not sent but the "playStopped" is sent to the Player object instead.

Re: libXMLText & RevNet

2002-12-28 Thread Richard Gaskin
Monte Goulding wrote: > I've just uploaded an updated libXMLText due to a compatability issue with > RevNet. If you don't use RevNet you may still want to update libXMLText just > in case you ever want to put the linkClicked message into a library or back > script. Thanks for the quick turnaround

Re: Re[7]: groups and background

2002-12-28 Thread Geoff Canyon
On Saturday, December 28, 2002, at 01:37 PM, Dar Scott wrote: Now, how do I find out if a group is shared or not? If you mean whether the group _can be_ on multiple cards, it's easy -- all groups can. sub-groups can only be on multiple cards through the fact that the group they are part of

Re: Re[7]: groups and background

2002-12-28 Thread Dar Scott
On Saturday, December 28, 2002, at 03:07 PM, Geoff Canyon wrote: This is exactly correct. I agree that it might be a bit confusing, but I think the rationale is this: a background is a group that can be placed onto a card. A nested group cannot be placed onto a card, except if its owner is pl

libXMLText & RevNet

2002-12-28 Thread Monte Goulding
Hi All I've just uploaded an updated libXMLText due to a compatability issue with RevNet. If you don't use RevNet you may still want to update libXMLText just in case you ever want to put the linkClicked message into a library or back script. Cheers Monte Goulding B.App.Sc. (Hons.) Executive D

Re: Re[7]: groups and background

2002-12-28 Thread Geoff Canyon
On Saturday, December 28, 2002, at 08:58 AM, Dar Scott wrote: I got numbers that are not consistent with this. (see my mail yesterday) I think "the number of backgrounds" refers to total number of groups directly on or placed on cards of the stack. I suspect that nested groups are not count

RE: [ANN] RevNet launched

2002-12-28 Thread Monte Goulding
> > Is there anything I could do in RevNet to help compensate for the issue in > libXMLText? > You could trap linkClicked higher up the hierarchy but it's muck more efficient if I just fix libXMLText which I will today. > -- > Richard Gaskin > Fourth World Media Corporation > Developer of WebM

Re: setting pointer location

2002-12-28 Thread David Vaughan
On Sunday, Dec 29, 2002, at 08:16 Australia/Sydney, Alan Gayne wrote: Hi David, Why "modeless" instead of modal dialogs? Alan, because I imagined (I haven't written it yet) that the dialogs could float about, available, and used simply by bringing them to the front. The entry fields they ar

Re: Re[7]: groups and background

2002-12-28 Thread Dar Scott
On Saturday, December 28, 2002, at 02:07 PM, Dar Scott wrote: Sure enough a group was placed. But I could not open the properties for it or anything else. A little later it disappeared. This happened twice. (OS X, Rev 1.1.1) Am I doing something wrong or is there a problem with this metho

Re: Fw: Re[7]: groups and background

2002-12-28 Thread Dar Scott
On Saturday, December 28, 2002, at 01:59 PM, Ken Ray wrote: This is probably why Rev's menu item is "Place Group". Note though that once a group is created, its backgroundBehavior property is FALSE. As soon as you place it on another card via "Place Group", however, Rev automatically sets the

Re: setting pointer location

2002-12-28 Thread Alan Gayne
Hi David, Why "modeless" instead of modal dialogs? In my experience I've used the aforementioned "askMeEntry theIDList / askMeTheQuestion" approach to compel the user to respond to certain fields in a certain order, so that the required elements for further data validation and/or processing a

Re: Re[7]: groups and background

2002-12-28 Thread Jeanne A. E. DeVoto
At 12:46 PM -0800 12/28/02, Dar Scott wrote: >On Saturday, December 28, 2002, at 12:06 PM, Ken Ray wrote: >> Keep in mind that the whole concept of "a background" is only >> there for HyperCard compatibility. > >Well, isn't a shared group useful in its own right. Sure, but a group's backgroundBeha

Re: Auto-size buttons?

2002-12-28 Thread Jeanne A. E. DeVoto
At 9:37 AM -0800 12/28/02, Mark Swindell wrote: >on 12/27/02 11:27 PM, Ken Ray at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> Is there a way to auto-size buttons so that they grow/shrink to fit their >>> labels with a developer-defined margin? >> >> on menuPick pChoice >> put the formattedWidth of me +15 into tW

Re: Re[7]: groups and background

2002-12-28 Thread Dar Scott
On Saturday, December 28, 2002, at 01:50 PM, Dar Scott wrote: Good catch. You mean you can place a group across mutiple cards without having the backgroundBehavior set? Cool. Wow! I'm going to try this. This looks interesting. I tried this. Sure enough a group was placed. But I could n

Re: [OT] winmail.dat

2002-12-28 Thread Richard Gaskin
Jan Bleeker wrote: > winmail.dat is inserted automagically when you use Outlook with funny > fonts etc. It can be switched off by the sender. Does MS even read the SMTP spec? (I know, I know, "Microsoft" and "specification" should never be used in the same sentence ). -- Richard Gaskin Four

Re: Fw: Re[7]: groups and background

2002-12-28 Thread Ken Ray
> At 11:07 AM -0800 12/28/02, Ken Ray wrote: > >One more thing... if MC/Rev had called this property "sharedContents" rather > >than "backgroundBehavior" I think it could have cleared up a lot of the > >confusion... > > But that would imply that groups with backgroundBehavior turned off aren't > sh

Re: Re[7]: groups and background

2002-12-28 Thread Mark Swindell
on 12/28/02 12:37 PM, Richard Gaskin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> But that would imply that groups with backgroundBehavior turned off aren't >> shared between cards, which isn't the case. > > Good catch. You mean you can place a group across mutiple cards without > having the backgroundBeh

Re: [OT] winmail.dat

2002-12-28 Thread Jan Bleeker
Op 28-12-2002 om 15:26 -0500 meldde [EMAIL PROTECTED] ons het volgende: Message: 8 Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 11:45:13 -0800 Subject: [OT] winmail.dat From: Richard Gaskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] What is the winmail.dat attachment that sometimes acco

Re: Re[7]: groups and background

2002-12-28 Thread Dar Scott
On Saturday, December 28, 2002, at 12:24 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: One more thing... if MC/Rev had called this property "sharedContents" rather than "backgroundBehavior" I think it could have cleared up a lot of the confusion... Or even just "shared", and mark the token "background" as deprica

Re: Re[7]: groups and background

2002-12-28 Thread Dar Scott
On Saturday, December 28, 2002, at 01:37 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Jeanne A. E. DeVoto wrote: At 11:07 AM -0800 12/28/02, Ken Ray wrote: One more thing... if MC/Rev had called this property "sharedContents" rather than "backgroundBehavior" I think it could have cleared up a lot of the confu

Re: Re[7]: groups and background

2002-12-28 Thread Dar Scott
On Saturday, December 28, 2002, at 12:06 PM, Ken Ray wrote: A "group". Thanks! Keep in mind that the whole concept of "a background" is only there for HyperCard compatibility. Well, isn't a shared group useful in its own right. I maintain it in only one place. I would assume it uses les

Re: Re[7]: groups and background

2002-12-28 Thread Richard Gaskin
Jeanne A. E. DeVoto wrote: > At 11:07 AM -0800 12/28/02, Ken Ray wrote: >> One more thing... if MC/Rev had called this property "sharedContents" rather >> than "backgroundBehavior" I think it could have cleared up a lot of the >> confusion... > > But that would imply that groups with backgroundBe

Re: setting pointer location

2002-12-28 Thread David Vaughan
On Sunday, Dec 29, 2002, at 04:30 Australia/Sydney, Rob Cozens wrote: OenoLog takes a middle ground: while the field cursor tabs to the open field (leaving the mouse cursor in its original location as David noted), ...further refining this difference between data entry and general mouse movem

Re: setting pointer location

2002-12-28 Thread Richard Gaskin
Bill Vlahos wrote: > Instead of relocating the mouse, simply hide it until it is moved. That > way the user doesn't really seem to start from the same location even > though they actually are. Each question would present the user with no > predetermined location for the mouse as the first time the

Re: Fw: Re[7]: groups and background

2002-12-28 Thread Jeanne A. E. DeVoto
At 11:07 AM -0800 12/28/02, Ken Ray wrote: >One more thing... if MC/Rev had called this property "sharedContents" rather >than "backgroundBehavior" I think it could have cleared up a lot of the >confusion... But that would imply that groups with backgroundBehavior turned off aren't shared between

Re: Auto-size buttons?

2002-12-28 Thread Jeanne A. E. DeVoto
At 10:11 PM -0800 12/27/02, Mark Swindell wrote: >Is there a way to auto-size buttons so that they grow/shrink to fit their >labels with a developer-defined margin? Try setting their width to their formattedWidth plus the desired margin * 2 (and height/formattedHeight likewise). -- Jeanne A. E. D

Re: setting pointer location

2002-12-28 Thread Bill Vlahos
I don't know if this is a good idea or not but it might be worth considering. Instead of relocating the mouse, simply hide it until it is moved. That way the user doesn't really seem to start from the same location even though they actually are. Each question would present the user with no pre

Re: Hanging on Wait

2002-12-28 Thread Richard Gaskin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I don't see where the handler playStopped gets called in the heirarchy of > handlers (unless this is an automatic call from the movie completing its > play). Yes, the docs say it's a system message sent to the player when it has finished playing the movie. -- Richard

Re: setting pointer location

2002-12-28 Thread Richard Gaskin
> I personally think the HIG guideline against moving the cursor should > NOT be accepted at face value: if it makes sense to you in your > design, do it and see how it turns out. It's enough to give one Fitts (sorry to perpetuate one of the most tired puns in the usability word). :) Fitts' Law

Re: Hanging on Wait

2002-12-28 Thread Ken Ray
> I don't see where the handler playStopped gets called in the heirarchy of > handlers (unless this is an automatic call from the movie completing its > play). I also had intended for the movies to play consecutively not with each > click of the mouse on the button. I may be misunderstanding. pla

Re: Re[7]: groups and background

2002-12-28 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Dar Scott wrote: > But the bigger question (the one I had in mind in illustrating that > "background" is confusing) is how to think about and how to communicate > about these concepts. As was suggested previously, forget the term "background" and consider the term "group" -- a group is

Re: Hanging on Wait

2002-12-28 Thread JamesHBeckmann
I don't see where the handler playStopped gets called in the heirarchy of handlers (unless this is an automatic call from the movie completing its play). I also had intended for the movies to play consecutively not with each click of the mouse on the button. I may be misunderstanding. >on pla

RE: if (this stack is a standalone) then ...

2002-12-28 Thread Rob Cozens
slightly cleaner code: function amIAStandalone return exists(background "revLibraries") end amIAStandalone Thank you for continuing my education, Doug -- Rob Cozens CCW, Serendipity Software Company http://www.oenolog.com/who.htm "And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three; Who are a litt

[OT] winmail.dat

2002-12-28 Thread Richard Gaskin
What is the winmail.dat attachment that sometimes accompanies posts made to this list, and can it be turned off on a message-by-message basis to comply with the "listmom"'s request for no attachments? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation Developer of WebMerge 2.1: Publish any dat

Text color buglet

2002-12-28 Thread Howard Bornstein
Under Rev 1.1.1 I'm running into a little bug with Text color that I wonder if someone can confirm. Once you select text in a field, you should be able to change its color, via the Text>Color menu. This seems to work fine on the Mac, but when I do it under Windows XP, the color is applied to th

Re: Gif flickering superimposed on a Movie

2002-12-28 Thread JamesHBeckmann
>Did you set the alwaysBuffer of the movie and the GIF image to true? > >Ken Ray Bingo! Thanks. Jim ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

RE: if (this stack is a standalone) then ...

2002-12-28 Thread Ivers, Doug E
Thanks for the tip! slightly cleaner code: function amIAStandalone return exists(background "revLibraries") end amIAStandalone <>

Re: setting pointer location

2002-12-28 Thread DVGlasgow
In a message dated 27/12/02 4:22:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << entry clerks for over 15 years. In HyperCard and Revolution, I control cursor positioning by locking all fields initially and unlocking & tabbing to individual fields. I personally think the HIG guideline agai

Re: Re[7]: groups and background

2002-12-28 Thread Richard Gaskin
Ken Ray wrote: > One more thing... if MC/Rev had called this property "sharedContents" rather > than "backgroundBehavior" I think it could have cleared up a lot of the > confusion... Or even just "shared", and mark the token "background" as depricated and included only for compatibility with less

Re: Gif flickering spuerimposed on a Movie

2002-12-28 Thread Richard Gaskin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have a transparent animated GIF (an image object) superimposed over a movie > player. The GIF image now flickers with each image advance (not evident over > the blank card) over the running movie. Any work arounds? Set the alwaysbuffer property of the movie player t

Re: Auto-size buttons?

2002-12-28 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mark Swindell wrote: > I really think this would be a nice property to have built into the button > properties palette... Scott's pretty OCD about such things. The absence of the property is likely (though I'm hoping Scott will step in and clarify) because it seems an "unsanctioned" behavior. A

Fw: Re[7]: groups and background

2002-12-28 Thread Ken Ray
One more thing... if MC/Rev had called this property "sharedContents" rather than "backgroundBehavior" I think it could have cleared up a lot of the confusion... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ - Original Message - From: "Ke

Re: Re[7]: groups and background

2002-12-28 Thread Ken Ray
> What word would you suggest for "a group or background whose > backgroundBehavior is true". Are we to use that long phrase? I've always used the term "shared groups". > What word would you suggest for "a group whether referenced as a group > or as a background"? A "group". Keep in mind that t

Re: Gif flickering spuerimposed on a Movie

2002-12-28 Thread Ken Ray
Did you set the alwaysBuffer of the movie and the GIF image to true? Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 12:47 PM Subject:

Re: Hanging on Wait

2002-12-28 Thread Ken Ray
Jim, Try this: -- script of btn global gFileNum on mouseUp set the defaultFolder to thePath put the files into fileList put 1 into gFileNum PlayMovie end mouseUp -- script of cd global gFileNum on PlayMovie set the filename of player "player1" to ("/" & line gFileNum of fileList) s

Re: Re[7]: groups and background

2002-12-28 Thread Dar Scott
On Saturday, December 28, 2002, at 04:19 AM, Geoff Canyon wrote: First, forget about the backgroundBehavior property. It has nothing to do with the use of the terms "background" and "group" Well, one might assume that "backgrounds" is the plural of "background" and this is not the case in "th

Gif flickering spuerimposed on a Movie

2002-12-28 Thread JamesHBeckmann
I have a transparent animated GIF (an image object) superimposed over a movie player. The GIF image now flickers with each image advance (not evident over the blank card) over the running movie. Any work arounds? Jim ___ use-revolution mailing list [

Hanging on Wait

2002-12-28 Thread JamesHBeckmann
The following hangs on "wait" and I'm not sure why: set the defaultfolder to thePath put the files into fileList repeat with h = 1 to 4 set the filename of player "player1" to (defaultfolder & "/" & line h of fileList) start player "player1" wait until the movie is "done" end

Re: setting pointer location

2002-12-28 Thread Rob Cozens
had some additional thoughts I hope will interest someone: Without having seen what Alan described, I am intrigued by the potential of combining Alan's dialog entry approach with Jan Schenkel's keystroke-intercepting front scripts and Serendipity Library's input validation and formatting handl

RevNet URL?

2002-12-28 Thread Alex Rice
What is the URL for RevNet download? Thanks, Alex Rice, Software Developer Architectural Research Consultants, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revo

Re: Re[7]: groups and background

2002-12-28 Thread Geoff Canyon
Setting aside issues of message passing for a moment, the issue below is fairly straightforward. First, forget about the backgroundBehavior property. It has nothing to do with the use of the terms "background" and "group" Instead, the distinction is this: "background" and "group" refer to the

Rev 2.0 - A new date?

2002-12-28 Thread paolo mazza
So, when Rev 2.0 is supposed to be released? ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution