Stopping A Stack From Starting Up in the IDE

2008-09-23 Thread Larry Forsgren
I would be very pleased if this was added fast since I have a stack which crashes the engine immediately when opened and this could be a way to open and correct that stack. Regards Larry ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com

AW: AW: GLX2 on Rev 3.0

2008-09-23 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hi Mark, thanks, I got it (ten times looked for, yet no found...) I would be interested for your keyboard definition for the backslash workaround Tiemo [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:use-revolution- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Mark Wi

Absolute File Paths - Bug or bad Docs

2008-09-23 Thread Kay C Lan
The docs, for 'absolute file path': The full name and location of a file, beginning with the disk the file is on, including The 'Tip' for defaultFolder includes the above plus points out that UNIX naming convention is used so the path MUST begin with and folders separated by "/". The exampl

Re: As programming environments get more powerful programers get lazy

2008-09-23 Thread Ruslan Zasukhin
On 9/24/08 1:43 AM, "Lynn Fredricks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> william humphrey wrote: >>> Nothing lacking in Valentina's API it is incredible. It is the lack of >>> completed solutions for common tasks. So it's not libraries but more example >>> code like you find for PHP or other more popula

Re: As programming environments get more powerful programers get lazy

2008-09-23 Thread Ruslan Zasukhin
On 9/23/08 8:38 PM, "Richard Gaskin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Richard, Hi William, > william humphrey wrote: >> Database specific libraries like Trevor's but simpler for >> common database functions. They should also be for the different >> databases that RunRev supports especially Valentina

Re: [ANN] Layer Tools plugin (beta)

2008-09-23 Thread Chipp Walters
What does the error say when it stops?Perhaps you can try putting before that line: put tStackName so we can see what stack name is being used... On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 7:40 PM, william humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > When I choose "pallete toggle" it stops at > > *set* the priv_ResizeCon

Re: OS9 standalone builds

2008-09-23 Thread Kay C Lan
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 1:48 AM, Jeff Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > also does anyone know if there is a list of the set of features that the > 2.6.1 engine cannot do so i can make sure to try to avoid them if i do go to > 3.0 for these projects? Sorry for the late reply. One option, in

Re: [ANN] Layer Tools plugin (beta)

2008-09-23 Thread william humphrey
When I choose "pallete toggle" it stops at *set* the priv_ResizeControlList of stack tStackName to tControlList I'm RunRev 3.0 on Mac 10.4.11 I will test it on my Intel Mac too. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please v

Re: Painting on an image in a group?

2008-09-23 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Hi David, Is it a group of images or a group of mixed objects? Joe Wilkins On Sep 23, 2008, at 4:45 PM, David Bovill wrote: In the IDE if you select an image in a group and try to paint - it creates a new image. Is there any way to to set things up / script it so that a user can paint in

Painting on an image in a group?

2008-09-23 Thread David Bovill
In the IDE if you select an image in a group and try to paint - it creates a new image. Is there any way to to set things up / script it so that a user can paint in an image inside a group? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com P

Re: StackRunner.exe

2008-09-23 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
It's doing quite well now - Ctrl keys are even working - except it still does not play my music files as the Mac Version does. As Chipp suggested, I'm looking into the AT&T Natural Voices for the Windows version. The 1 voice it now provides is pretty gross. I tried to check out your StackRu

Re: Distinguishing simple and double clicks

2008-09-23 Thread -= JB =-
Hi Eric, If you look at the script you might be fooled into thinking I am checking for a mouseDown but it is the mouseUp I was checking. Here is why I wrote it. I was using the mouseUp and if a person clicked on some text it would bring up a dialog displaying the text with the line and item num

Re: Distinguishing simple and double clicks

2008-09-23 Thread Terry Judd
> This sounds similar in some respects to the Finder's column view, in > which a single click opens a new pane in the right-most column > displaying info about the file, while a double-click triggers the most > common verb, to launch the file. The first click is always handled in > the same manner

Re: StackRunner.exe

2008-09-23 Thread Ken Ray
> Thought I'd try using the StackRunner (Revolution Play.exe) instead of > my Splash Screen standalone. Resolves most all of my issues. Will keep > you informed as to my additional progress. Thanks everyone. Actually "StackRunner" ( http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/downloads/StackRunn

RE: As programming environments get more powerful programers get lazy

2008-09-23 Thread Lynn Fredricks
> william humphrey wrote: > > Nothing lacking in Valentina's API it is incredible. It is > the lack of > > completed solutions for common tasks. So it's not libraries > but more > > example code like you find for PHP or other more popular > environments. > > The example code saves you from re

Re: As programming environments get more powerful programers get lazy

2008-09-23 Thread Richard Gaskin
william humphrey wrote: Nothing lacking in Valentina's API it is incredible. It is the lack of completed solutions for common tasks. So it's not libraries but more example code like you find for PHP or other more popular environments. The example code saves you from re-writing stuff someone much

Re: Rev on iPhone/iPod Touch ??

2008-09-23 Thread François Chaplais
Le 24 sept. 08 à 00:15, Mikey a écrit : Well, for an experiment that they ultimately let fail, they sure nurtured it for a long time first. Jobs shot the gun on HC (but kept AppleScript), Jobs launched the iPhone. And judging from http://apple20.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/09/23/androids-fir

Re: Distinguishing simple and double clicks

2008-09-23 Thread -= JB =-
Hi Eric, In the stack Dynamic Table Field I use a script the allows different actions for single and double mouseclicks. It uses a local variable clickFlag and the script mixed in a few different handlers. -=>JB<=- On Sep 23, 2008, at 6:23 AM, Eric Chatonet wrote: Bonjour à tous, I just w

Re: As programming environments get more powerful programers get lazy

2008-09-23 Thread william humphrey
Nothing lacking in Valentina's API it is incredible. It is the lack of completed solutions for common tasks. So it's not libraries but more example code like you find for PHP or other more popular environments. The example code saves you from re-writing stuff someone much more skilled has already d

Re: Rev on iPhone/iPod Touch ??

2008-09-23 Thread Andre Garzia
Err... no... because Revolution has a lot of cross platform code in it, I bet that is not a matter of recompile with new target from XCode. Remember, a common core is built for windows, linux and macs, both x86 and ppc. XCode is great, I've developed stuff with it that still amaze me till today, bu

Re: Distinguishing simple and double clicks

2008-09-23 Thread Richard Gaskin
Eric Chatonet wrote: Eric Chatonet wrote: I just want to make something that was easy with HC: e.g. allow the user to use simple and double clicks on the same button but with different actions. MouseUp is always sent by the engine first then mouseDoubleUp is sent if appropriate. Is that not h

Re: Stopping A Stack From Starting Up in the IDE

2008-09-23 Thread Chipp Walters
The same thing can be accomplished in a simple plugin. No need to add more obscurity to the interface. On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Mark Stuart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Therefore, it would be nice to be able to do the same in RunRev, to not > execute the preOpenStack and/or the openStack

Re: Rev on iPhone/iPod Touch ??

2008-09-23 Thread Mikey
Well, for an experiment that they ultimately let fail, they sure nurtured it for a long time first. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:

Re: OK, Really strange Mystery

2008-09-23 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Hi Jacque, I had just discovered that for myself. Prior to that it was just finding an older version that I had squirrel away on the C drive and forgot all about it. Dragging and dropping assured that it was getting the right one; and, except for not playing music yet, and the Ctrl keys not

Re: Rev on iPhone/iPod Touch ??

2008-09-23 Thread Richard Gaskin
François Chaplais wrote: But my point is elsewhere and it is the same point that gave Hypercard its appeal: the ability to bypass the classic development scheme. Sadly, the answer is the same for both HyperCard's demise and the difficulty in developing for iPhone: the technology is availa

Re: Distinguishing simple and double clicks

2008-09-23 Thread François Chaplais
Le 23 sept. 08 à 19:04, Eric Chatonet a écrit : Sure but I wonder: in many apps when does exist this ability, it does not seem there is an extra delay: how is this possible? Actually, I don't think it's possible without extra delay... I am note versed in computer science, but I am pretty

Re: OK, Really strange Mystery

2008-09-23 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
So, I tried running the Mac version with the StackRunner and it works perfectly using the latest version. Of course, I had to show it which one to use; whereas the Revolution Player.exe just runs the stack it THINKS is there in the same folder with it on Windows. Good thing I love a mystery

Re: OK, Really strange Mystery

2008-09-23 Thread J. Landman Gay
Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: I don't quite understand what you've suggested I try. As I noted in my last post, the Player is definitely managing to find a 2.9 Version. I tried replacing the 2.9 version with my new one, but for some reason that didn't change anything. This is some real behind the sc

Re: Control X in Windows XP

2008-09-23 Thread J. Landman Gay
Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Well, I put in an Answer Dialog into the OpenCard handler of the stack, but does not do anything under XP, so I'm still in the dark about "the platform" This would't be related to the platform. Answer dialogs behave identically on any of them. The most likely reason f

Re: OK, Really strange Mystery

2008-09-23 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
I don't quite understand what you've suggested I try. As I noted in my last post, the Player is definitely managing to find a 2.9 Version. I tried replacing the 2.9 version with my new one, but for some reason that didn't change anything. This is some real behind the scenes activity over wh

Re: Rev on iPhone/iPod Touch ??

2008-09-23 Thread François Chaplais
Le 23 sept. 08 à 22:26, Thomas McGrath III a écrit : This is what I was saying. These elements are coming from Interface Builder and as such can not be built on the fly or at runtime. And new controls can not be added either. Tom It is an important point, indeed. I do not have many Phone

Re: Rev on iPhone/iPod Touch ??

2008-09-23 Thread Thomas McGrath III
This is what I was saying. These elements are coming from Interface Builder and as such can not be built on the fly or at runtime. And new controls can not be added either. Tom On Sep 23, 2008, at 4:17 PM, François Chaplais wrote: Now the only issue that I see is whether the iPhone SDK all

Re: OK, Really strange Mystery

2008-09-23 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Having gone back and run the Splash screen standalone instead of the Revolution Player.exe, I find that IT shows the correct new version of the stack, so someway the Player is resurrecting (from the very same stack) an older version. I believe the older version was what I had been working o

Re: OK, Really strange Mystery

2008-09-23 Thread Chipp Walters
Joe, Try to find out the filepath of the original stack. For instance, put it at C:/test.rev, then open it in the Windows player and ask the message box: put the filename of the topstack See if they are the same. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-rev

Re: Rev on iPhone/iPod Touch ??

2008-09-23 Thread François Chaplais
Le 23 sept. 08 à 20:53, Andre Garzia a écrit : It's worse than that... the processor is ARM, and if there's an architecture that we never had an engine, well that is arm... we had x86, ppc and sparc for a while... The SDK will take care of this within XCode. Best regards, François

Re: Rev on iPhone/iPod Touch ??

2008-09-23 Thread François Chaplais
Le 23 sept. 08 à 19:24, Thomas McGrath III a écrit : François, Stacks will not run natively on the iPhone with any version of the Rev player. This is because most of the controls on the iPhone are not compatible with the controls in Revolution. This means that buttons, fields, images, pl

Re: OK, Really strange Mystery

2008-09-23 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
I've run this stack through two other hard drives before making the transfer and it is STILL this different, older version. I've also restarted everything, thinking that something needs to be dumped from memory. But? I'm at my wits end. Half wit, perhaps! (smile) Joe Wilkins On Sep 23

Re: Distinguishing simple and double clicks

2008-09-23 Thread David Bovill
Thanks for the post Richard - got me thinking about how common using double click is, and essentially it is not that common with applications that fit the noun verb metaphor, but becomes more common in situations where you are navigating information structures with a default browsing / information

Re: do script from applescript

2008-09-23 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Well, after quite a few attempts and tweaks I can now send AS do script to the IDE and I can also send it to a Standalone. One point: I have to send to the stack name if the command is located on the stack and/or to the card if the command is located on the card. This seems very odd to me.

OK, Really strange Mystery

2008-09-23 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Hi Gang, I've got a really good one for you now. My main stack is fine and works on OSX, BUT when I open the VERY same stack with the Revolution Player.exe in WindowsXP, it is NOT the same stack, it is a much older version; one of the cards is totally different and other things as well. I

StackRunner.exe

2008-09-23 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Thought I'd try using the StackRunner (Revolution Play.exe) instead of my Splash Screen standalone. Resolves most all of my issues. Will keep you informed as to my additional progress. Thanks everyone. Joe Wilkins ___ use-revolution mailing lis

Re: Rev on iPhone/iPod Touch ??

2008-09-23 Thread Andre Garzia
It's worse than that... the processor is ARM, and if there's an architecture that we never had an engine, well that is arm... we had x86, ppc and sparc for a while... On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Thomas McGrath III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > François, > > Stacks will not run natively on the

Re: Control X in Windows XP

2008-09-23 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Ken, thanks for some other things to think about AND TRY. (smile) I guess my biggest problem right now is to figure out why the ask and answer dialogs are not working in the "real stack", though I'm fiddling with the standalone Splash Screen settings - which may help. (smile - still!) Jo

Re: do script from applescript

2008-09-23 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Bernd or BNig, smile That worked. I am not sure why a simpler version worked for others Since that worked I am going to adapt it to my project and see how it goes. Thanks again, Tom On Sep 23, 2008, at 2:15 PM, BNig wrote: Hi Tom, I only get it to work if I set the calling apples

Re: Control X in Windows XP

2008-09-23 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Thanks, Chipp, but is it still "Win32" when being used under VMWare Fusion? One of the other problems I'm having with this now, is that none of the Dialogs work. It's this blasted Splash Screen Standalone. YUK! Not a simple problem it would seem. Joe Wilkins On Sep 23, 2008, at 11:15 AM,

Re: Control X in Windows XP

2008-09-23 Thread Ken Ray
> 1. Since I'm testing by running XP under VMWare Fusion, I'm wondering > what "platform" is returned by Rev. I had assumed (unfortunately) that > using an "if the platform is not MacOS" would cover me for just about > any eventuality, but it would seem this may not be the case with this > config

Re: Control X in Windows XP

2008-09-23 Thread Chipp Walters
The platform for WinXP is "Win32" ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Re: do script from applescript

2008-09-23 Thread BNig
Hi Tom, I only get it to work if I set the calling applescript to tell application "Revolution" activate do script "send \"testIt \" to stack \"NameOfYourStack\"" set x to the result end tell x the last x optional to see the result in the stackscript of my stack "NameO

Re: Re-2: Control X in Windows XP

2008-09-23 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Hi Mathias, My problem is that I cannot use the msg box, since I'm running XP under VMWare Fusion, and I don't know how that affects "the Platform". Thanks, anyway, Joe Wilkins On Sep 23, 2008, at 10:54 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, i do not know, if i understood your question right.

Re-2: Control X in Windows XP

2008-09-23 Thread runrev260805
Hi, i do not know, if i understood your question right. Under Windows XP a "put the platform" in the messagebox gives "Win32" back. Regards, Matthias Original Message Subject: Re: Control X in Windows XP (23-Sep-2008 19:16) From:Joe Lewis Wilkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:

Re: AW: GLX2 on Rev 3.0

2008-09-23 Thread Mark Wieder
Tiemo- Tuesday, September 23, 2008, 9:21:02 AM, you wrote: > Jerry, I have the same problems, went to the http://glx2help.ning.com In addition, the download links for the GLX2 installers are on the right-hand side of the web page in the section labeled "GLX2 Installers". -- -Mark Wieder [EMAI

Re: As programming environments get more powerful programers get lazy

2008-09-23 Thread Richard Gaskin
william humphrey wrote: > Database specific libraries like Trevor's but simpler for > common database functions. They should also be for the different > databases that RunRev supports especially Valentina which is the > fastest and most powerful one but also the one with no third > party support m

do script from applescript

2008-09-23 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Is anyone else experiencing a problem with the Revolution (do script) from applescript??? I am getting the IDE and Standalone to activate but not the 'do script'. Revolution stack script: on testIt put "Hello" into msg return "got it in Rev" end testIt Applescript: tell application "Revol

Re: applescript "do script"

2008-09-23 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Instead there is an item; Scriptable Tom On Sep 19, 2008, at 6:35 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Still no result... Also the NSAppleScriptEnabled does not seem to be there in the info.plist from Revolution. TOm On Sep 19, 2008, at 3:08 PM, Jim Ault wrote: Try this version and see what

Re: Rev on iPhone/iPod Touch ??

2008-09-23 Thread Thomas McGrath III
François, Stacks will not run natively on the iPhone with any version of the Rev player. This is because most of the controls on the iPhone are not compatible with the controls in Revolution. This means that buttons, fields, images, players, etc. will not port over. The code might since t

Re: Control X in Windows XP

2008-09-23 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Well, I put in an Answer Dialog into the OpenCard handler of the stack, but does not do anything under XP, so I'm still in the dark about "the platform" Joe Wilkins On Sep 23, 2008, at 9:36 AM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Hi Gang, I've reached the stage where I'm testing the XP version of my

Re: Is the clickCharChunk my friend?

2008-09-23 Thread Eric Chatonet
Bonsoir Graham, Le 23 sept. 08 à 18:18, Graham Samuel a écrit : Thanks Eric, to the rescue again! NP :-) It seems counterintuitive to me that the selectedChunk returns a meaningful result when nothing is selected, e.g. when the cursor is flashing in a field but none of its contents are h

Re: on controlkeydown very slow

2008-09-23 Thread william humphrey
I hadn't even realized that calling "answer" was what was slow. That explains it. I've noticed that in other things now too. Thanks for pointing it out. I'm building an app that has all the common task done with "control this or control that" so that your fingers don't need to leave the key board.

Re: Distinguishing simple and double clicks

2008-09-23 Thread Eric Chatonet
Bonsoir Richard, Le 23 sept. 08 à 17:48, Richard Gaskin a écrit : Eric Chatonet wrote: I just want to make something that was easy with HC: e.g. allow the user to use simple and double clicks on the same button but with different actions. MouseUp is always sent by the engine first then mouseDo

Re: As programming environments get more powerful programers get lazy

2008-09-23 Thread william humphrey
Database specific libraries like Trevor's but simpler for common database functions. They should also be for the different databases that RunRev supports especially Valentina which is the fastest and most powerful one but also the one with no third party support materials (for SQLite there are even

Re: As programming environments get more powerful programers get lazy

2008-09-23 Thread Richard Gaskin
william humphrey wrote: > The other complaint I get is that RunRev doesn't have libraries > of code to use. Au contaire, there are dozens of libs floating around the Revsphere, some commercial ones like Animation Engine and a good many freeware ones like stdLib and the goodies from Sarah, Andre

Re: A bit OT: handling multiple users in DB

2008-09-23 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Rob, Hi Klaus, I would expect all that multiuser functionality to be built into whatever implementation of SQL you employ; it IS, but that's not my problem. but relational DBs are not my strong suit. Same here ;-) If, however, you're trying to allow multiple users to access a "sin

Control X in Windows XP

2008-09-23 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Hi Gang, I've reached the stage where I'm testing the XP version of my program; but I'm running into few anomalies: 1. Since I'm testing by running XP under VMWare Fusion, I'm wondering what "platform" is returned by Rev. I had assumed (unfortunately) that using an "if the platform is no

Re: AW: GLX2 on Rev 3.0

2008-09-23 Thread Jerry Daniels
Tiemo, I've posted the answer to you problem on the GLX2 support site just now. Simple problem; simple solution. You are using an older version of GLX2 this is (understandably) not compatible with Rev 3.0. There is a dandy installer on the GLX2 support site (www.glx2.com) for installing o

re: Stopping A Stack From Starting Up in the IDE

2008-09-23 Thread Mark Stuart
Hi Len, FWIW, I remember playing around with MS Access a few years ago, that while holding down the left shift key and opening the application mdb file, the startup scripts did not execute. Therefore accomplishing what you want to do here. Recently I tried the same in Rev, but obviously did n

AW: GLX2 on Rev 3.0

2008-09-23 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Jerry, I have the same problems, went to the http://glx2help.ning.com support site, but didn't found any download link for the new installer. I found only a "buy" link at Runrevs site. Could you point me to the download link please? Tiemo > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Is the clickCharChunk my friend?

2008-09-23 Thread Graham Samuel
Thanks Eric, to the rescue again! It seems counterintuitive to me that the selectedChunk returns a meaningful result when nothing is selected, e.g. when the cursor is flashing in a field but none of its contents are highlighted, or it is even empty! Similarly to use 'select' to put the focu

use-revolution@lists.runrev.com

2008-09-23 Thread Richard Gaskin
Paul Looney wrote: My first thought, years ago, was "revTalk" also. But "talks" are not preceived as "real" languages - remember when Apple went through all those contortions to use "scripting" instead of "coding". Dropping "talk" helps Rev transcend its heritage and paradigm - will result

Re: As programming environments get more powerful programers get lazy

2008-09-23 Thread Richard Gaskin
Phil Davis wrote: > ...you can store images as objects in a 'library' stack, and when > you start using the stack, those images become available as icons > in your app's buttons. Of course, your app has to know their IDs > to take advantage of them. > > I use this in one product I maintain. It has

use-revolution@lists.runrev.com

2008-09-23 Thread Paul Looney
My first thought, years ago, was "revTalk" also. But "talks" are not preceived as "real" languages - remember when Apple went through all those contortions to use "scripting" instead of "coding". Dropping "talk" helps Rev transcend its heritage and paradigm - will result in more sales, too.

use-revolution@lists.runrev.com

2008-09-23 Thread Mikey
The other reason why I like it is for the same reason I liked HyperTalk as a name back in The Day. The name describes the language as being something completely different than you're used to, namely more conversational, easier to learn, and less cryptic. ___

Re: Distinguishing simple and double clicks

2008-09-23 Thread Richard Gaskin
Eric Chatonet wrote: I just want to make something that was easy with HC: e.g. allow the user to use simple and double clicks on the same button but with different actions. MouseUp is always sent by the engine first then mouseDoubleUp is sent if appropriate. Is that not how HyperCard works? If

Re: Rev on iPhone/iPod Touch ??

2008-09-23 Thread François Chaplais
There have been stories on the web of the difficulty of publishing an application on Apple's App Store for the iPhone. Getting paid is another story. Here I think revolution can have an original position: if a stack runner/player is made available on the iPhone (for free or for a small pr

use-revolution@lists.runrev.com

2008-09-23 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mikey wrote: I liked RevCode originally, but I think, to be true to the paradigm, revTalk is probably better, because it is clearer which dialect we're referring to. I generally avoid "me too" posts, but this is the first time I can recall "RevTalk" being mentioned here, and I like it for the s

use-revolution@lists.runrev.com

2008-09-23 Thread Mark Smith
Personally, I still prefer 'transcript' (I think that's what it was called when I first encountered it), but surely the point is that it is called "revolution". In the context of deciding what to call it for the purposes of inclusion in sites like stackoverflow, it really won't help if we

Re: A bit OT: handling multiple users in DB

2008-09-23 Thread Rob Cozens
Hi Klaus, I would expect all that multiuser functionality to be built into whatever implementation of SQL you employ; but relational DBs are not my strong suit. If, however, you're trying to allow multiple users to access a "single user" [ie. non-client/server] SQL DB, you will probably need

use-revolution@lists.runrev.com

2008-09-23 Thread Paul Looney
Calling the program "Revolution" and calling the programming language "Revolution" is certainly confusing. The name "Revolution" is not all that great to begin with. I call the program "Rev" and the language "Revcode". I use "Revcode" as both a noun and a verb. I like "Rev" because it means g

Re: Distinguishing simple and double clicks

2008-09-23 Thread David Bovill
I think it's common enough a GUI technique for a feature request - though I'm not sure how? Maybe something like: insert the mouseDoubleUp of btn 1 to front > or set the messageOrder of btn 1 to "mouseDoubleUp,mouseDouble" but it may be hard to implement in the engine? 2008/9/23 Eric Chatonet <

use-revolution@lists.runrev.com

2008-09-23 Thread David Bovill
Originally they called in Transcript - but I guess somewhere along the line they had an in-house marketing talk and decided to get the name out more. It's all a bit confusing. I use Revcode as short hand, and to distinguish it from the Revolution IDE. It's also easier to search for on the web - som

Re: A bit OT: handling multiple users in DB

2008-09-23 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Rob, Hi Klaus, FWIW, here is the information SDB maintains internally to handle multiuser access: A list of DBs currently open by the user or client: local clientDbList -- array by clientId:dbId1, dbId2, etc A list of the current record position and access privileges for each user/cl

Re: A bit OT: handling multiple users in DB

2008-09-23 Thread Rob Cozens
Hi Klaus, FWIW, here is the information SDB maintains internally to handle multiuser access: A list of DBs currently open by the user or client: local clientDbList -- array by clientId:dbId1, dbId2, etc A list of the current record position and access privileges for each user/client current

use-revolution@lists.runrev.com

2008-09-23 Thread Mark Smith
RunRev call it "revolution", so I'd think that would be the right tag, though perhaps "revolution/transcript" might be more useful. Best, Mark On 16 Sep 2008, at 23:28, Alex Tweedly wrote: I saw on slashdot a link ( http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/ 2008/09/15.html ) to Joel on Software'

Re: Distinguishing simple and double clicks

2008-09-23 Thread Eric Chatonet
Thanks David: I was afraid of ;-) Le 23 sept. 08 à 15:49, David Bovill a écrit : That's what I do. Logically there is no way out of delaying the mouseUp until after the the mouseDoubleUp. I think you can improve it for machines of different speeds and look at things like the doubleclickinter

Re: Revolution 3.0 variables ? What has changed ?

2008-09-23 Thread David Bovill
i think you have explicitvariables set to true. That's ot some sort of sensorship - but does force Rev to declare variables. Not sure but in the IDE it may be the menu item "Edit => Variable Checking" ? 2008/9/23 Rolf Kocherhans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hello all > > I haven't followed the beta cyc

Re: Revolution 3.0 variables ? What has changed ?

2008-09-23 Thread Eric Chatonet
Bonjour Rolf, Le 23 sept. 08 à 15:42, Rolf Kocherhans a écrit : Hello all I haven't followed the beta cycle closly so it is new to me that puting contents into local variables report a script error now. eg. put 3 into varTest It only works if I declare the local Variable first ! local varT

Re: Distinguishing simple and double clicks

2008-09-23 Thread David Bovill
That's what I do. Logically there is no way out of delaying the mouseUp until after the the mouseDoubleUp. I think you can improve it for machines of different speeds and look at things like the doubleclickinterval - but I never really got it working / sound it to be needed except on very old machi

Revolution 3.0 variables ? What has changed ?

2008-09-23 Thread Rolf Kocherhans
Hello all I haven't followed the beta cycle closly so it is new to me that puting contents into local variables report a script error now. eg. put 3 into varTest It only works if I declare the local Variable first ! local varTest put 3 into varTest Is this a new behavior in 3.0 ? Can I disabl

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2008-09-23 Thread Mikey
I liked RevCode originally, but I think, to be true to the paradigm, revTalk is probably better, because it is clearer which dialect we're referring to. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, un

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2008-09-23 Thread David Bovill
Just taken a quick look - doesn't look much more than what you'd get with a blog and a post rating system - or am I wrong? It work OK but the forum / blog posting metaphor doesn't help much as the site scales - even with keywords (which IMO are probably the most important navigation if you can get

Distinguishing simple and double clicks

2008-09-23 Thread Eric Chatonet
Bonjour à tous, I just want to make something that was easy with HC: e.g. allow the user to use simple and double clicks on the same button but with different actions. MouseUp is always sent by the engine first then mouseDoubleUp is sent if appropriate. So the question is how to not execu

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2008-09-23 Thread David Bovill
Just taken a quick look - doesn't look much more than what you'd get with a blog and a post rating system - or am I wrong? It work OK but the forum / blog posing metaphor doesn't help much as the thing scales - even with keywords (which IMO are probably the most important navigation if you can get

Re: Stopping A Stack From Starting Up in the IDE

2008-09-23 Thread Ben Rubinstein
Len Morgan wrote: I'm trying to debug a stack and I'd like to stop not have it come up running when I open it from the IDE. Other than setting a breakpoint in the preOpenStack script, is there a way to keep it from executing code when it's loaded? Another approach is to have your preOpenStac

Re: Is the clickCharChunk my friend?

2008-09-23 Thread Eric Chatonet
Bonjour Graham, The clickCharChunk function returns a chunk expression of the form char charNumber to charNumber of field fieldNumber: it's not a point you can click at. Anyway, probably you might prefer to store the selectedChunk instead and use do "select" && gRememberedInsertionPoint Thi

Is the clickCharChunk my friend?

2008-09-23 Thread Graham Samuel
I'm still trying to create a simple Undo mechanism for a succession of fields acting as cells in a grid-like structure, a bit like a spreadsheet. I am not using table fields. It is easy to implement Cut, Copy, Paste and Clear functions for these fields, to be operated by conventional menu i

Re: Stopping A Stack From Starting Up in the IDE

2008-09-23 Thread Eric Chatonet
Bonjour Chipp, Le 23 sept. 08 à 10:23, Chipp Walters a écrit : Hi Eric, I've had mixed results with pushing that button in past Rev versions, as sometimes parts of the IDE quit working even after messages are turned back on. I had a look at the code in revMenubar: This action suppresses a l

Re: Stopping A Stack From Starting Up in the IDE

2008-09-23 Thread Chipp Walters
Hi Eric, I've had mixed results with pushing that button in past Rev versions, as sometimes parts of the IDE quit working even after messages are turned back on. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to sub

Re: Stopping A Stack From Starting Up in the IDE

2008-09-23 Thread Eric Chatonet
Bonjour Len and Chipp, Or just lock messages by clicking on the corresponding button in Rev toolbar and use File/Open Stack... menu item :-) Le 23 sept. 08 à 09:22, Chipp Walters a écrit : create a button: on mouseUp lock messages go stack "C:/test.rev" unlock messages end mouseUp

Re: As programming environments get more powerful programers get lazy

2008-09-23 Thread Phil Davis
Hi Graham, Graham Samuel wrote: Yes, but any explanation of libraries should also include **components**: my recent attempts to employ libraries consistently for the first time (embarassingly this was many years after I started scripting) revealed soon enough that a library in the sense of so

Re: Stopping A Stack From Starting Up in the IDE

2008-09-23 Thread Chipp Walters
create a button: on mouseUp lock messages go stack "C:/test.rev" unlock messages end mouseUp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:

Re: A bit OT: handling multiple users in DB

2008-09-23 Thread Klaus Major
Am 23.09.2008 um 01:20 schrieb Kurt Kaufman: Bob Sneidar wrote: ...Sorry for the lengthy post. Not at all! This is a fascinating discussion. Yes, very interesting and appreciated, Bob! I was under the false impression that the automatic record-locking mechanisms would handle everything

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