The problem with this solution is that varA and varB are not evaluated.
In order to use your syntax it would need to be:
send calc varA comma varB to btn source
or
send merge( calc [[varA]], [[varB]] ) to btn source
I find both inelegant readability wise. I think there is a great burden
on
Yeah, thought about that too, but I'm tired of accommodating
transcript's ideosyncracies. A language should accommodate the developer
at every turn. The problem I see with the solution below, is that if any
layer in the message path has an identically named function, the one I
want invoked
On 3/16/06 10:32 PM, J. Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Or there's a really ugly way too, but it's short:
insert script of btn source into back
put calc(varA,varB) into localResult
remove script of btn source from back
I know, I know...but it works.
One person's ugly is
On 3/17/06 12:09 AM, Arthur Urban [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The problem with this solution is that varA and varB are not evaluated.
Andre Garzia wrote:
send calc VarA, VarB to btn source
The dictionary entry for send says:
Any parameters are evaluated before they are passed to the send
Thanx for the alternate examples you provided. I addressed their
shortcomings in other posts in the thread, so I won't reiterate. :)
While I will continue to entertain other solutions, the main thrust of
my initial post was to propose a new, clearer syntax for message
calling. One I think Rev
transcript's ideosyncracies
I guess the basic issue is that the messaging hierarchy is designed so that
there are several ways of building your functions/procedures into libraries,
script containers, and objects so that they are 'available' in the message
path and yet be dynamic.
You have
I've discovered that the dictionary does not always tell the whole
story. I'm sure it evaluates literals just fine, but it does not
evaluate containers. Unfortunately the dictionary tends to illustrate
the simplest of scenarios for a command, not the most likely ones you
will find yourself
Hey Dan, thanks for the quick note.
I think I get now. 8080 is already open. Launch this and the metacard
stack listens without changing any control panel stuff.
Just tried the following:
Safari
http://localhost:8080/~jault/
=== stack running as an app (dbl clk) no problems
Explorer from a
Agreed about only the simplest commands illustrated.
Many is the time what I wanted to do was not covered. Not even close.
I suppose if the dictionary was the great, all -encompassing resource, this
list would be much smaller and quieter.
I would be really lonely then. As it is, now I can
Hello,
Is there any way to integrate revolution and flash ?
Some way of placing Flash UI on top of Rev Card.
On top of revolution Object (lets say button ) one can put the flash
button. And when one clicks then revoluion button script is called.
Rev can create the XML file and then XML Data
Just a quick response for now, but take a look at AltBrowser2 by Altuit
from Chipp
For those of you who still have not taken a minute to tryout the
altBrowser2 demo all you have to do is launch Revolution and and copy
and paste the below script into your message box:
go URL
Hi Thierry,
Hi all,
Testing Rev27 on Win32, with my demoStack,
i found that the command :
set the graphic G to listPoints
is 5 times slower on Rev27 than on Rev21.
because, i'm using this command in a loop it's really not too
good :-(
the anti-aliasing is off.
Does anyone saw
On 3/17/06 12:47 AM, Arthur Urban [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm sure it evaluates literals just fine, but it does not
evaluate containers.
This works here:
on mouseUp
put 1 into t
send foo t,t+1
end mouseUp
on foo
ask the params
end foo
Do you have a counter-example?
-- Dick
FYI, setting a customProp with the compressed image data actually
increases the size of the stack if those images were resized to
larger than their original incoming size (that's expected behavior)
This presents somewhat of a conundrum. Since the import of a 3 X 5
jpeg whose original
I may be misunderstanding the problem, but is it really a message
passing problem?
This, in a buttons script will fail:
on mouseUp
put 1+2 into n1
put 2+2 into n2
calc n1,n2
put the result
end mouseUp
on calc n1,n2
return n1 + n2
end calc
So if you pass quoted expressions to a
Perhaps using
set the wholematches to true
put lineOffset(on pHandlerName, pScript) into tStart
if tStart is 0 then put lineOffset(function pHandlerName, pScript) into
tStart
put (lineOffset(end pHandlerName, pScript) +1 into tEnd
answer tStart cr tEnd
Jim Ault
Las Vegas
Hi,
Of course none of the solutions so far work if the function is
commented out. To make the code 100% foolproof is a lot of work. I
was doing something similar and found that comments made life really
difficult.
All the Best
Dave
On 17 Mar 2006, at 11:42, Robert Brenstein wrote:
Commenting would only affect things if the wholeMatches is set to
true - normally, lineOffset will get the right line even if it's
commented out, no?
Mark
On 17 Mar 2006, at 12:06, David Burgun wrote:
Hi,
Of course none of the solutions so far work if the function is
commented out. To
How do I add Report Builder to the tool menu in 2.7
It is there in a file ToolSet but does not show up in the
tool menu
thanks
Liam Lambert
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The missing link is the killer app made with it. RoR was virtually
unheard of before BaseCamp took off, showing the world how powerful
and flexible RoR is. If we had an app of similar scope and appeal
I have no doubt that as long as the engine is free for such uses
and the scripts are
I would like Constellation to read my mind and KNOW when to put in a
pass and when not.
Jerry
Buy Constellation from Runtime Revolution!
http://revstudio.runrev.com/section/revselect/constellation/
On Mar 17, 2006, at 1:37 AM, Chipp Walters wrote:
Yep, I'd prefer Constellation not place a
Haven't seen any posts in 2+ hours...
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All,
The salinity measurements between the tropical latitudes has spiked,
so, all that evaporated water..it's got to come down somewhere...
someone said they had 24 free of snow in the midwest somewhere...never
happened before in their lifetime. It's happening folks; we were
warned... this
On Mar 14, 2006, at 8:31 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote:
Can someone give the long answer on when is it best to use a
function versus a command? I have a lot to write of both commands
and functions and have been overly confusing myself. Please give at
least two examples each with parameters
Thanks to all who replied about this. I think Jacque must have been
right about my somehow delaying looking at 'the result' - it really
happened but now I can't reproduce it. Anyway, Jim Ault's suggestion
Try this snippet and see what you get
create folder cde:/illegal:name/
get the
St. Patrick's day, we're all drunk.
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Haven't seen any posts in 2+ hours...
On Mar 16, 2006, at 5:25 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote:
But, I would like to get just one of the handlers from a script via
script:put handler FooBar of the script of card Foo into tBar
Most of the solutions presented so far make assumptions. For example,
there can be more than one
Oops, I forgot about that. Let me run to my guiness.1
On Mar 17, 2006, at 11:11 AM, Andy Calloway wrote:
St. Patrick's day, we're all drunk.
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Not that I disagree with your syntax suggestion -- it looks good to
me. But:
To avoid the problem stated below, change Jacque's code to:
insert script of btn source into front
put calc(varA,varB) into localResult
remove script of btn source from front
That way nothing else can
Nice article. Thanks.
On Mar 17, 2006, at 10:57 AM, Geoff Canyon wrote:
On Mar 14, 2006, at 8:31 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote:
Can someone give the long answer on when is it best to use a
function versus a command? I have a lot to write of both commands
and functions and have been
Another approach that might be better for you.
put c:/oragamiFolder/ into pathh
create folder pathh
if there is not a folder pathh then
answer Hmm, pathh does not exist
end if
On 3/17/06 8:02 AM, Graham Samuel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks to all who replied about this. I think
Why can't you protect the access online to the files on a secure
server rather than try to protect the media? Who or what are the 'bad
guys'??
sqb
FYI, setting a customProp with the compressed image data actually
increases the size of the stack if those images were resized to
larger than
Hi all And Chip...
I had a question regarding Chip's AltBrowser 2.0 external...
Is it possible to use the external with web sites such as Writely
(www.writely.com)? I attempted using the demo browser in the new 2.0 version
and was not successful. On the Windows version, it would kill Rev, and
Lucid and thorough, as usual. And we'd all forgotten about 'Prop'
handlers.
However, to nitpick, and raise a question from earlier in the thread,
what about handlers that are commented out?
hmmm..not as simple as it might seem...
Mark
On 17 Mar 2006, at 16:16, Geoff Canyon wrote:
On Mar
My Rev Studio 2 quits unexpectedly about once an hour. This seems to happen
only when selecting or moving text in a script. Has anyone else experienced
this waker-upper and is there a way to avoid it. I'm getting kinda old for this
s**t !
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Also consider there is more than one way to legally comment out lines of
code. The author should choose and be consistent.
I used to have a routine in HCard that would find all the
on, function, --on , --function handlers global declaration lines in
a stack script container and build a
On Mar 16, 2006, at 9:41 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
Garrett Hylltun wrote:
But after the standalone was saved, the icons I made are not being
used at all for the .app in finder. It's using the default icon
from OS X as if mine didn't exist or something.
As you know now, Mark's
Hi John,
I just tried this with writely and the altbrowser demo and was able to
login and create a new document on both the mac an pc. I'm using XP/OS
10.4.5 in rev 2.6.1.
I launched the demo..clicked launch browser on the first card and then
went directly to http://www.writely.com;.
Hello everyone,
I need a little help drawing spokes to a wheel. This is actually
used in a vision test. I have an image here to help illustrate the
madness. I am sure someone like Jim Ault is shaking his head right
now. http://www.canelasoftware.com/pub/rev/astig.jpg
I have been
Marielle-
Friday, March 17, 2006, 4:44:16 AM, you wrote:
many Japanese management concepts such as Total Quality Control,
Quality Control circles, small group activities, labor relations. Key
elements of Kaizen are quality, effort, involvement of all employees,
willingness to change, and
On Mar 17, 2006, at 8:57 AM, Stephen Barncard wrote:
Why can't you protect the access online to the files on a secure
server rather than try to protect the media? Who or what are the
'bad guys'??
sqb
Can the files be outside the application in a data folder perhaps?
If so, you could
mea culpa. Your example works just fine. I changed variable names in the
send syntax without initializing them first. This caused the variable
name to be sent as a string and not it's contents. Thank you for helping
me discover this!
Dick Kriesel wrote:
On 3/17/06 12:47 AM, Arthur Urban
Hi John,
It appears you've already received the answer, directly from Chris, the
developer of the altBrowser external.
Feel free to contact us directly with any questions about altBrowser at:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Chipp
John Patten wrote:
Hi all And Chip...
I had a question regarding Chip's
Could you take a single line png, make copies, and
rotate.positionAboutTheCenter them?
Jim Hurly and Scott Rossi are far ahead of me in doing this sort of work
(ballClock, windowShape, bezier curves, circles, polygon offsets) More than
shaking my head, I'm rattling my brain and rolling my
many Japanese management concepts such as Total Quality Control,
Quality Control circles, small group activities, labor
relations. Key
elements of Kaizen are quality, effort, involvement of all
employees,
willingness to change, and communication.
Having been involved with Total
Geoff,
Great read,
Thanks for this,
Tom
On Mar 17, 2006, at 10:57 AM, Geoff Canyon wrote:
On Mar 14, 2006, at 8:31 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote:
Can someone give the long answer on when is it best to use a
function versus a command? I have a lot to write of both commands
and
I have a stack that with 141 cards. 40 of the cards have images set on a timer
:
on openCard
wait 2 seconds
hide image img1
end openCard
I need to make an openStack script that will set the images to show. My
usual lowbrow, untrained approach is to hard code it, which gets tedious:
on
Hi Preston,
My Rev Studio 2 quits unexpectedly about once an hour. This seems to
happen only when selecting or moving text in a script. Has anyone else
experienced this waker-upper and is there a way to avoid it. I'm
getting kinda old for this s**t !
Go to
Hi Ben,
I have a stack that with 141 cards. 40 of the cards have images set
on a timer :
on openCard
wait 2 seconds
hide image img1
end openCard
I need to make an openStack script that will set the images to show.
Are you sure? If no runtime changes to the stack need be saved, simply
Hi Ben,
I have a stack that with 141 cards. 40 of the cards have images
set on a timer :
on openCard
wait 2 seconds
hide image img1
end openCard
I need to make an openStack script that will set the images to
show. My usual lowbrow, untrained approach is to hard code it,
which gets
Hi all,
In my app I manipulate screen elements when the user resizes the
window. For scaling Rev objects, the Geometry manager works well. I
do intercept and pass the resizeStack message to do a couple of
things, for example, reset the tabstops in a field, and redraw the
altBrowser pane.
Good day all,
Word 2003 and newer can save as XML. If there is an image in the doc,
it's binary data are saved in one of the nodes of an XML tree (body/p/
r/pict/binData).
Now I want a Revolution stack to read these XML documents. I assumed
the binary image data to be base-64 encoded. But
They're working on it.. and it's confirmed... please vote
http://support.runrev.com/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=3359
My Rev Studio 2 quits unexpectedly about once an hour. This seems to
happen only when selecting or moving text in a script. Has anyone
else experienced this waker-upper and is
Henk I wrote an exporter for JasperReports that can save to WordML
format. This is in Java, no no help with RunRev. But I can tell you
that the information is not in pure imageData format. The
information in WordML is a base-64 encoded PNG or JPEG, or whatever.
Well, even though you
Rob:
We may have 2 bug numbers for the same bug...
sqb: http://support.runrev.com/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=3359
clicking or dragging text randomly fatally crashes rev. Sometimes
core dump dialog appears.
*Confirmed with 2 apple debug dumps sent to runrev.
Rob:
Marielle wrote:
What you get with Java, Ruby, Ajax that you don't get with runrev is
the following.
1) Re-usable LIBRARIES.
Honestly what I have read recently on how revolution is so much
superior to Director or Java is just a *BIG* joke. Agreed, revolution
let you write stuff rapidly.
On Mar 17, 2006, at 11:01 AM, Jim Ault wrote:
Could you take a single line png, make copies, and
rotate.positionAboutTheCenter them?
Jim Hurly and Scott Rossi are far ahead of me in doing this sort of
work
(ballClock, windowShape, bezier curves, circles, polygon offsets)
More than
shaking
Thanks for the quick reply!
I had been trying AltBrowser 2.0 in Rev 2.7. I'm not sure if that's the
problem. But when I saw Chris's reply about using 2.6 I went back, downloaded
the demo again, and opened it up in 2.6.
The first time I pointed the Demo Browser to writely.com I was able to
Hi Mark,
here is a quicky. Make sure that the style of the grc accepts points
(e.g=curve or line)
on mouseUp
put item 1 of the loc of this cd into centerX
put item 2 of the loc of this cd into centerY
put 40 into isRadius
put 60 into spokeLength
repeat with isAngle=0 to 360 step 15
just recalled that there was a very good exchange about points on a polygon
in the archives relating to the Rossi ballclock and the last revision I
think is ballclock4.rev
This could still be on his download site.
Jim Ault
Las Vegas
On 3/17/06 10:26 AM, Mark Talluto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Marielle,
Most of us know, you have a running feud with those at RunRev. If you
aren't happy with the tool, then just don't use it. It's that simple.
Perhaps there aren't as many libraries available for Transcript, but who
says using only reusable libraries is the only way to code quickly? I
John,
You can right your own handlers to manage popup windows, that's what the
callback is for.
Again, you can reach us directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
best,
Chipp
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Marielle-
Friday, March 17, 2006, 4:44:16 AM, you wrote:
2) Rich and easy to access documentation
If you want to use a java library written by somebody else, simple,
you get access to the API online and you know what method to call and
how. You don't need to know *anything* about the inner
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Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 10:26:30 -0800
From: Mark Talluto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Draw spokes on a wheel
To: Revolution use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
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Hello everyone,
In my app I manipulate screen elements when the user resizes the
window. For scaling Rev objects, the Geometry manager works well. I
do intercept and pass the resizeStack message to do a couple of
things, for example, reset the tabstops in a field, and redraw the
altBrowser pane. I use
On 3/17/06 10:26 AM, Mark Talluto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I need a little help drawing spokes to a wheel. This is actually
used in a vision test. I have an image here to help illustrate the
madness. I am sure someone like Jim Ault is shaking his head right
now.
I have a dim memory of something like this, and I think the solution
was introducing a small delay before invoking my own resizing handlers.
So if you have all your code in an 'on resizeStack' handler, try
moving it into an 'on customResize' handler, and then make your
resizeStack
Mark Waddingham wrote:
We've noticed this here too and are looking into it. I've filed bug
3397 about it for reference.
Hi Mark,
while you´re at it, any chance of speeding up: set the angle of image
myImage to (any number that is not a multiple of 45)
That would be really cool. :-)
All
Actually, I thought of a serious answer to this dilemma.
I was thinking of putting a -- pass [sys msg name] in every blank
system message handler Constellation creates. That way the user could
un-comment the pass. Like Chipp, most of the time I find the pass
in a default handler unneeded.
Wow! Thanks for the quick help on this. Man...my math is really
lacking. I'll be dissecting all the solutions below for some time.
For the time being, I decided to bring all the solutions together for
others to use and manipulate for your needs. One things is for sure,
I owe each of
Thanks for all the help on this
It appears to be a feature needed in Rev.
However, I have found out that in Sweden, the decimal symbol and
thousands separator used for numbers is not the same as those used
for currency. On XP it appears that sDecimalSep, sMonDecimalSep
and sThousandSep,
On Mar 17, 2006, at 2:05 PM, Jerry Daniels wrote:
I was thinking of putting a -- pass [sys msg name] in every blank
system message handler Constellation creates. That way the user
could un-comment the pass. Like Chipp, most of the time I find
the pass in a default handler unneeded.
I
On 17 Mar 2006, at 18:26, Mark Wieder wrote:
Marielle-
Friday, March 17, 2006, 4:44:16 AM, you wrote:
many Japanese management concepts such as Total Quality Control,
Quality Control circles, small group activities, labor relations. Key
elements of Kaizen are quality, effort, involvement of
I was thinking of putting a -- pass [sys msg name] in every blank
system message handler Constellation creates. That way the user
could un-comment the pass. Like Chipp, most of the time I find
the pass in a default handler unneeded.
I would be one of those that would like it to just put
Hi Pradeep,
First, i would say yes, as long as flash can be handled trough
javascript calls we can bind to transcript handlers (i do that* all
the time, for my own *.js stored/used as global vars from inside my
rev-based web applications servers).
Second, i would recommand to use AJAX
Hi all,
I must have missed the fuse on this thread, sorry - I only caught it from
Mark's response to Kaizen - sorry, Marielle, I accidentally deleted your
list of concerns but have now a copy to review. Some of it Id like to
discuss off list.
Lets step away from the impending flames of
On Mar 17, 2006, at 5:30 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote:
I agree. There is a very small list of handlers where I usually have a
pass: openStack, preOpenStack, openCard, preOpenCard. Apart from that
I almost never use pass, so I would prefer it if Constellation left
it out and I added it manually
I agree with what you say, Mark, but I think it isn't the
whole picture. In the early 80s, a guy at a Japanese steel
company explained to me how his time was being taken up with
visiting Americans determined to learn the secrets of
Japanese TQC. He felt they were wasting their time. Not
Lynn Fredricks wrote:
Until Jacque
finishes her time travel stack, there isnt much that can be done with
history :-)
2006 will be a good year for Runtime as a company and Revolution as a
product platform.
Playing with the beta again, are you? ;)
--
Jacqueline Landman Gay |
Has anyone been experimenting with implementing elementary mind-mapping
functions
in Rev ?
In our development of a global freeware e-diary tool we would like to include
at least
some options for users to build and update their own mind-maps, without having
to pay
many hundreds meals of rice
On 3/17/06 2:24 PM, Mark Talluto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One things is for sure, I owe each of you a drink of your choice at the RevCon
in Monterey this year.
With positive reinforcement like that, I'll do even better:
on mouseUp
drawAstig 50,200,225,2
end mouseUp
on drawAstig
Interesting topic.
I've probably logged over 30 trips to Japan since 1986. I once had the
good fortune to meet with a Dr. Sasaki, the father of computer science
in Japan for lunch. He was an original member of the ENIAC team here in
the US.
I mentioned to him that many years before, Japan
On 3/17/06 6:20 PM, Kresten Bjerg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Has anyone been experimenting with implementing elementary mind-mapping
functions in Rev ?
Yes, I have, although I'd have to emphasize elementary.
A user creates graphic objects like ovals to represent concepts, and
connects them
On Mar 17, 2006, at 6:32 PM, Dick Kriesel wrote:
On 3/17/06 2:24 PM, Mark Talluto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One things is for sure, I owe each of you a drink of your choice
at the RevCon
in Monterey this year.
With positive reinforcement like that, I'll do even better:
on mouseUp
Do you want them even though they are commented, or do you not want
them?
For Navigator I don't care about commented handlers although I
suppose maybe I should.
Since a comment relieves you of syntax requirements, this line is
perfectly legitimate:
-- I've commented out this handler:
One note of caution:
you might want to make the first three lines of the script
repeat with x = the number of graphics down to 1
delete graphic x
end repeat
otherwise redoing/redrawing will keep adding graphics and give slower and
slower performance.
Happy you found a solution... and I
On 3/17/06 8:01 PM, Mark Talluto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I hope this means you are coming.
Yes, as a fine southern gentleman I know said, God willin' and the creek
don't rise.
Thanks for taking another stab at this.
You're welcome. You didn't note whether it worked for you. Did it?
I had the pleasure of serving tiramisu
A gracious host, Richard G. is! Thanks for your full meal of a post as
well as your deserts.
Rich
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