Re: Check out Jerry's new videos -- REV to ObjC - iPhone

2010-05-10 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Hi Chipp, Chipp Walters-2 wrote: I'm beginning to think there is something wrong with your brain. Have you not bothered listening to anything that has been said here or on the web? [snip] Actually, the jokes on me. You are clearly a troll. Not interested in any sort of logical

RE: Check out Jerry's new videos -- REV to ObjC - iPhone

2010-05-10 Thread Randall Lee Reetz
Deflection of discussion. What scares runrev people about exporting platform independent source code? I certainly hit a nerve. -Original Message- From: Alejandro Tejada capellan2...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 11:37 PM To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: Check

Re: single bit contact closure input [macintosh]

2010-05-10 Thread Kay C Lan
On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 3:47 AM, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: yes, very nice stuff. A Revolution External is mentioned. A little late to the thread but I think this might be a cheaper option - 8/8/8: http://www.phidgets.com/products.php?category=0 Someones written

Re: Check out Jerry's new videos -- REV to ObjC - iPhone

2010-05-10 Thread David Bovill
On 10 May 2010 07:37, Alejandro Tejada capellan2...@gmail.com wrote: Many years ago, someone mentioned in this list that him/her/them was working in a revTalk port of ALICE. I just keep wondering if that project was completed sucessfully... Yes - I did that. I truly apologies to all on this

Re: Three Years of Rev (was RE: Check out Jerry's new videos)

2010-05-10 Thread Pierre Sahores
Well said, Chipp :-) TRUE AT 1000%. NEEDED TO GO HEAD IN THE BEST CROSS-PLATFORM B2B NEW PRACTICES WE CAN HANDLE AS INDEPENDANTS TO SMALL TOP COMPETITIVE CORP. Best, Pierre Le 9 mai 2010 à 06:03, Chipp Walters a écrit : I'd try and shore up the Apache Module, and sell it for a decent fee--

Re: Check out Jerry's new videos -- REV to ObjC - iPhone

2010-05-10 Thread Roger . E . Eller
On 05/10/2010 at 04:31 AM, David Bovill da...@vaudevillecourt.tv wrote: On 10 May 2010 07:37, Alejandro Tejada capellan2...@gmail.com wrote: Many years ago, someone mentioned in this list that him/her/them was working in a revTalk port of ALICE. I just keep wondering if that project was

Re: Check out Jerry's new videos -- REV to ObjC - iPhone

2010-05-10 Thread Colin Holgate
On May 10, 2010, at 2:58 AM, Randall Lee Reetz wrote: Deflection of discussion. That's a relative of straw man attack, isn't it? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and

Re: Check out Jerry's new videos -- REV to ObjC - iPhone

2010-05-10 Thread Josh Mellicker
True. Even if I programmed everything in Xcode, exactly as Apple wanted, but reused my own C libraries I created in Xcode, they could ban my apps due to the repeated code (fingerprint). They could ban a drawing app because, conceivably, you might draw porn with it, or for any other reason.

Re: How exactly does runrev for ipad/iphone work?

2010-05-10 Thread Bob Sneidar
But when you click the link, it plays in a flash viewer instead of a Quicktime viewer. That is what is going to happen on an iPhone, and because of that, it won't play. I'm actually not even sure if the iPhone employs or allows a quicktime movie to play in a browser. Bob On May 7, 2010, at

Re: Check out Jerry's new videos -- REV to ObjC - iPhone

2010-05-10 Thread René Micout
YES ! That is that we call in French un procès d'intention !! Le 10 mai 2010 à 17:52, Josh Mellicker a écrit : True. Even if I programmed everything in Xcode, exactly as Apple wanted, but reused my own C libraries I created in Xcode, they could ban my apps due to the repeated code

Re: How exactly does runrev for ipad/iphone work?

2010-05-10 Thread Andre Garzia
if it is a youtube video, then it plays fine... On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: But when you click the link, it plays in a flash viewer instead of a Quicktime viewer. That is what is going to happen on an iPhone, and because of that, it won't play. I'm

Re: Check out Jerry's new videos -- REV to ObjC - iPhone

2010-05-10 Thread Robert Mann
As Jerry's points out and acts : life is more about doing and seeing rather than trying to predict the future, ins't it? So.. Yes indeed... They could ban a drawing app because, conceivably, you might draw porn with it, or for any other reason. The question is : will they do it? Why?

Re: OT: Resources for Data Base Design

2010-05-10 Thread Bob Sneidar
Seems like you need a column for each of your subsets, series, book, sections, chapters. Then index on all 5 columns, or have all 5 values concatenated into a single column and index on that. Not sure what kind of index you could use for the text though. I've always wondered about that. How do

Object is not an image when Crop command

2010-05-10 Thread JosepM
Hi List, I try to crop a image with the rect of a graphic. tObject is a graphic selected by the user. img picture is a image loaded by the user from disk The user move the graphic over the image and crop it, but only I get Error: object is not an image?? The graphic is irregular polygon, I

Re: [OT] Connect the dots...

2010-05-10 Thread Bob Sneidar
These journalists have to invent things to write about sometimes. What I got from the article is that the journalist was saying Apple is not a threat to Nintendo at all, because they are really producing two different non-competing products. And my take is that Apple is not producing anything

Re: OT: Resources for Data Base Design

2010-05-10 Thread Robert Mann
As far as grainy text is concerned, I mean text made of text and so on... we're back to hierarchical databases, the modern version being XML databases. The big advantage is that you can design a very simple dbase in term of schema. Then you can pour into it complicated structures (sgml, XML..)

Re: Check out Jerry's new videos

2010-05-10 Thread Bob Sneidar
that suxs i just wrote an all lower case no punctuation app for the iphonelll bob On May 8, 2010, at 4:31 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: On May 8, 2010, at 3:56 PM, Randall Lee Reetz rand...@randallreetz.com wrote: BYTE CODE IS SLOW IN COMPARISON. INTERPRETED EVEN MORE SO. (SORRY ABOUT THE

Re: Object is not an image when Crop command

2010-05-10 Thread Devin Asay
On May 10, 2010, at 10:22 AM, JosepM wrote: Hi List, I try to crop a image with the rect of a graphic. tObject is a graphic selected by the user. img picture is a image loaded by the user from disk The user move the graphic over the image and crop it, but only I get Error: object

Re: Check out Jerry's new videos -- ALICE port

2010-05-10 Thread J. Landman Gay
David Bovill wrote: On 10 May 2010 07:37, Alejandro Tejada capellan2...@gmail.com wrote: Many years ago, someone mentioned in this list that him/her/them was working in a revTalk port of ALICE. I just keep wondering if that project was completed sucessfully... Yes - I did that. I truly

Re: Check out Jerry's new videos -- REV to ObjC - iPhone

2010-05-10 Thread Chipp Walters
Josh, The issue isn't whether Apple wants to outlaw reusing code libraries. They don't. They want to outlaw cross platform development. The point is why try and go around this process by creating a Rev to C tool, when it's likely they can identify the resulting binaries? It's still against

Re: Object is not an image when Crop command

2010-05-10 Thread JosepM
Hi Devin, Yes, I read the dictionary, but the image is loaded from disk not referenced. What is a image not referenced? Salut, Josep M El 10/05/2010, a las 18:51, Devin Asay [via Runtime Revolution] ml-node+2172400-329687279-23...@n4.nabble.com escribió: On May 10, 2010, at 10:22 AM,

Re: Check out Jerry's new videos -- REV to ObjC - iPhone

2010-05-10 Thread Bob Sneidar
Really?? That is what Apple wants? Honestly people. You don't have to sell products in France. But if you do, you will have to abide by their rules. It's no good arguing that France is the only place your widgets sell, or that creating a market in Germany is too hard. Rulz is rulz. If you don't

Re: Check out Jerry's new videos -- REV to ObjC - iPhone

2010-05-10 Thread René Micout
!!?? Le 10 mai 2010 à 18:59, Bob Sneidar a écrit : Really?? That is what Apple wants? Honestly people. You don't have to sell products in France. But if you do, you will have to abide by their rules. It's no good arguing that France is the only place your widgets sell, or that creating a

Re: Check out Jerry's new videos -- REV to ObjC - iPhone

2010-05-10 Thread Chipp Walters
Here's the guy Steve Jobs likes to point out is his mouthpiece, on the subject. http://daringfireball.net/2010/04/middleware_and_section_311 Chipp Walters CEO, Shafer Walters Group, Inc On May 10, 2010, at 11:59 AM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: Really?? That is what Apple wants? On

Re: [OT] Connect the dots...

2010-05-10 Thread David Bovill
On 10 May 2010 17:25, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: These journalists have to invent things to write about sometimes. What I got from the article is that the journalist was saying Apple is not a threat to Nintendo at all, because they are really producing two different non-competing

Re: Check out Jerry's new videos -- REV to ObjC - iPhone

2010-05-10 Thread René Micout
All the arguments in the article are that I regret about the weakness of RunRev to treat the Macintosh interface. For me it's a very big handicap. I never understood the principle of cross-platform (except of course for some developers to amortize their work). But, and I've said here, is a race

Re: Check out Jerry's new videos -- ALICE port

2010-05-10 Thread David Bovill
Yes I did - but this was a very very long time ago - back when i was using MetaCard (some time last century - so I can't vouch for the code quality). I was interested at the time in using it for customer service and game applications... and in the end I figured it was better to simply run an Alice

Re: Check out Jerry's new videos -- REV to ObjC - iPhone

2010-05-10 Thread Richard Gaskin
Chipp Walters wrote: On May 10, 2010, at 9:56 AM, Chipp Walters wrote: The issue isn't whether Apple wants to outlaw reusing code libraries. They don't. They want to outlaw cross platform development. On May 10, 2010, at 11:59 AM, Bob Sneidar bobs at twft.com wrote: Really?? That is what

Re: Object is not an image when Crop command

2010-05-10 Thread Devin Asay
On May 10, 2010, at 10:57 AM, JosepM wrote: Hi Devin, Yes, I read the dictionary, but the image is loaded from disk not referenced. What is a image not referenced? The image would have to be imported, I believe, to be able to use the crop command with it. Devin El 10/05/2010, a

Re: Object is not an image when Crop command

2010-05-10 Thread JosepM
OK. Now is imported into imagedata, but now say that is not a rectangle... :( buf... It's posible to export or copy a portion of the image but with a irregular shape? Maybe I trying something not posible... Salut, Josep -- View this message in context:

News on revMobile

2010-05-10 Thread Kevin Miller
Hi everyone, Here is the information you have been waiting for about revMobile for the iPhone/iPad. Thank you all for your patience, this has been the soonest we have been able to bring you this news. http://www.runrev.com/company/runrev-blog/ Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~

RE: Check out Jerry's new videos -- REV to ObjC - iPhone

2010-05-10 Thread Randall Lee Reetz
Not true at all... Apple just needs access to source to insure safety and control over revenue schemes. If adobe would have opened its tech to inspection, apple would have welcomed it. What matters is the platform maintaining ultimate control and access over use and content channels. Does

Thoughts on Kevin's announcement

2010-05-10 Thread Jerry Daniels
As we all know, the very definition of a personal computer has changed radically over the last year. Personal computing devices are becoming more personal and more mobile. This transformation has accelerated dramatically in the last month. Every technology company on our little planet is

Re: Check out Jerry's new videos -- REV to ObjC - iPhone

2010-05-10 Thread Neal Campbell
Being a developer who makes his living at it (like many of us do), I develop on platforms that make me the most money, period. To date, thats Windows. While there is opportunity to make money on mobile devices, I think that opportunity for me is more of a n-tiered solution where the mobile device

Re: News on revMobile

2010-05-10 Thread Colin Holgate
It's quite a long read, so here are some highlights: No Rev of any sort on iPhone OS, probably forever. Refocusing efforts on Android. RunRevLive 10 pushed back to April next year. The one thing that Kevin says that seems like a wrong conclusion, is that they will continue to support the

Re: Object is not an image when Crop command

2010-05-10 Thread Devin Asay
On May 10, 2010, at 11:36 AM, JosepM wrote: OK. Now is imported into imagedata, but now say that is not a rectangle... :( buf... It's posible to export or copy a portion of the image but with a irregular shape? Maybe I trying something not posible... Crop only works with a

Re: News on revMobile

2010-05-10 Thread Michael Kann
Kevin, As we all knew you would, you did everything humanly possible for your customers. RunRev got ambushed and there wasn't much you could do about it. --- On Mon, 5/10/10, Kevin Miller ke...@runrev.com wrote: From: Kevin Miller ke...@runrev.com Subject: News on revMobile To: How to use

Re: Object is not an image when Crop command

2010-05-10 Thread Michael Kann
If Scott Rossi doesn't know how, it can't be done. --- On Mon, 5/10/10, Devin Asay devin_a...@byu.edu wrote: From: Devin Asay devin_a...@byu.edu Subject: Re: Object is not an image when Crop command To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Date: Monday, May 10, 2010, 12:54

Re: Thoughts on Kevin's announcement

2010-05-10 Thread David C.
Kevin and team have shown their resilience and brilliance in the transformation department with their announcement today. They've adjusted their roadmap and their offering to keep us all in the game. They have my thanks, trust, and admiration. And my business going forward. Well said and I am

Re: News on revMobile

2010-05-10 Thread Marian Petrides
Geez, thanks Steve. Just what we Apple loyalists needed-NOT. Do I sound just a wee bit annoyed. You bet I am. But my annoyance is at Apple, not Run Rev. RunRev did their level best, but what could we really expect when logic plays second fiddle to the whims of Sir Steve of Jobs? On May 10,

Re: Object is not an image when Crop command

2010-05-10 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Devin Asay wrote: Crop only works with a rectangle. There may be others on the list who have figured out how to use an irregular shape as an image mask. You can't. You can only group the graphic and image and use combined ink effects. Very limiting. You can see the Spotlight demo

Re: News on revMobile

2010-05-10 Thread René Micout
Colin, Sorry but, if I want to buy a iPad and use it as a putching-ball, a soccer baloon or freezebee. I do not think that Mr. Jobs can forbid it! René Le 10 mai 2010 à 19:53, Colin Holgate a écrit : The one thing that Kevin says that seems like a wrong conclusion, is that they will continue

Re: News on revMobile

2010-05-10 Thread Richard Gaskin
Colin Holgate wrote: The one thing that Kevin says that seems like a wrong conclusion, is that they will continue to support the existing iPhone version for Apple Enterprise customers. Those are the ones that are allowed to deploy their own apps to some number of hundreds of users. But the

Re: News on revMobile

2010-05-10 Thread Colin Holgate
On May 10, 2010, at 2:05 PM, René Micout wrote: Sorry but, if I want to buy a iPad and use it as a putching-ball, a soccer baloon or freezebee. I do not think that Mr. Jobs can forbid it! Let's not get into another long discussion about what is right and what Apple are saying. Clearly

Re: How exactly does runrev for ipad/iphone work?

2010-05-10 Thread stephen barncard
Quicktime runs fine on an iPhone. That's the whole idea. Anyone can make a platform-independent player for quicktime. Using the *export to web* feature from QT Pro, one can see the array of files that allow scaling to different formats: iphone, other phones, desktop. and the html to display it.

Re: News on revMobile

2010-05-10 Thread J. Landman Gay
Colin Holgate wrote: If you think about it, it would make sense for the agreement to affect everyone, not just people submitting to the App Store, because whatever calamity is caused by having Rev, or Flash based Apps on an iPhone device, would still hold true for all those Enterprise users.

Re: Thoughts on Kevin's announcement

2010-05-10 Thread Thomas McGrath III
This is good for you Jerry. I hope you keep getting preferential treatment. I, however, do not. I do expect a rebate or discount for my loss. Tom McGrath On May 10, 2010, at 1:46 PM, Jerry Daniels wrote: I bought the great revMobile pre-alpha along with the conference, the DVDs, the works.

Re: News on revMobile

2010-05-10 Thread Neal Campbell
For those deciding to not buy an iPad because of these mess, I completely understand the decision, but you owe it to yourselves to borrow one for a weekend. It is honestly a major breakthru which makes the whole situation much sadder. As Jerry pointed out in one thread, its a breakthrough paradigm

Re: Thoughts on Kevin's announcement

2010-05-10 Thread Matthias Rebbe
I couldn´t have said it better. Matthias Am 10.05.2010 um 19:46 schrieb Jerry Daniels: As we all know, the very definition of a personal computer has changed radically over the last year. Personal computing devices are becoming more personal and more mobile. This transformation has

Re: News on revMobile

2010-05-10 Thread Andre Garzia
I have 5 macbooks, 1 iMac, 1 iPhone and 1 iPad (and 2 newtons) Now... I am so pissed at Apple that I won't buy anything from Apple ever again. As soon as Rev works well on Linux, I will switch back to Linux making a comeback to the land of the free just like I did a switch from linux to macs in

RE: Thoughts on Kevin's announcement

2010-05-10 Thread Randall Lee Reetz
I would have loved to have instead heard apple's reaction to the prospect that runrev would output clean well formed objective C source that would be compiled in apples blessed and native IDE. Of course apple would want to developed its own xtalk environment for the ipad. They own the domain!

Re: News on revMobile

2010-05-10 Thread René Micout
YES ! Le 10 mai 2010 à 20:08, J. Landman Gay a écrit : Colin Holgate wrote: If you think about it, it would make sense for the agreement to affect everyone, not just people submitting to the App Store, because whatever calamity is caused by having Rev, or Flash based Apps on an iPhone

Re: News on revMobile

2010-05-10 Thread Colin Holgate
On May 10, 2010, at 2:08 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: The difference is, Apple never sees your privately-distributed apps. They can't discontinue them or revoke them. After every iTunes update the jailbreak people have to find another way to jailbreak the iPhone. It wouldn't be too hard for

Re: News on revMobile

2010-05-10 Thread Chipp Walters
http://www.runrev.com/company/runrev-blog/ It's a sad day for RunRev, and all high level language (HLL) developers. In an unprecedented decree by the current King of the Hill, Steve Jobs has declared his tools, and only his tools, can be used to create compiled binary applications for his

Re: News on revMobile

2010-05-10 Thread Colin Holgate
On May 10, 2010, at 2:11 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: Now, if they are approving games that use LUA, how the hell can they prevent script interpretation? The Lua only tool guys (such as Corona) haven't yet said they are safe, even though they remain hopeful. They argue that if games that Steve

Re: News on revMobile

2010-05-10 Thread Richard Gaskin
Chipp Walters wrote: Making matters worse, he didn't proclaim his intentions to do this until the fourth release of the SDK. It's not like he was starting some new platform from scratch, and set up the rules from the beginning. Nope, he changed things when it suited him best ...which

Re: News on revMobile

2010-05-10 Thread Andre Garzia
Can they say yes to EA and no to us? And after one day using my iPad I *must* say this: MY NEWTON STILL BETTER ARGH On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net wrote: On May 10, 2010, at 2:11 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: Now, if they are approving games that use LUA,

That nice XML exporter for stacks...

2010-05-10 Thread Andre Garzia
Hello Folks, Anyone here remember a sample stack that would export a Rev stack with all properties and scripts to an XML file? I don't see it anymore in the bundled files. If you guys don't remember it is ok, but can someone here think a clever way to iterate over all controls? is something

Re: News on revMobile

2010-05-10 Thread Richard Gaskin
Well done, Kevin. Steve has spoken, you did your best, and now we can all move forward in good and strong company into this new mobile arena: I’m Abandoning iPhone Development. Mobile Orchard To Stop Publication. http://www.mobileorchard.com/goodbye/ 70% of iPhone developers heading to

Re: News on revMobile

2010-05-10 Thread Scott Rossi
Seems like it might be good to put out some press of the rejection. Not to bad mouth Apple, but rather to inform the various tech blogs that the rejection occurred, that several thousand developers share in the disappointment, and that developers are being forced to look at other platforms.

Re: News on revMobile

2010-05-10 Thread Neal Campbell
How can you be so old when you are so young? Neal Campbell Abroham Neal Software www.abrohamnealsoftware.com (540) 645 5394 NEW PHONE NUMBER Amateur Radio: K3NC Blog: http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/blog/ DXBase bug reports: email to ca...@dxbase.fogbugz.com Abroham Neal forums:

Re: News on revMobile

2010-05-10 Thread Richmond Mathewson
RunRev, like so many others, have taken a socking great kick in the pants from Apple. Kevin's Article seems remarkably sober considering the circumstances - perhaps it was preceded by a 'slightly' more vulgar internal memo . . . :) I can only say that I hope it does not affect RunRev unduly;

Re: News on revMobile

2010-05-10 Thread David C.
I won't buy anything from Apple ever again. My entire catalog of products from Apple consists of a no longer owned Mac-mini and the original iPhone. (which I believe to be the single greatest tech product ever designed) In general (not specific to this situation), Apple's restrictive

Re: That nice XML exporter for stacks...

2010-05-10 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 10/05/2010 21:32, Andre Garzia wrote: Hello Folks, Anyone here remember a sample stack that would export a Rev stack with all properties and scripts to an XML file? I don't see it anymore in the bundled files. If you guys don't remember it is ok, but can someone here think a clever way to

Re: News on revMobile

2010-05-10 Thread Richmond Mathewson
While I don't like Microsoft, and they have tried to force people to use their shabby browser, at least they haven't got up to the same sort of restrictive practises that Apple have; consider: I can wander down the road into any tatty-old computer shop and buy a tatty old PC and get some sort

Re: [OT] Connect the dots...

2010-05-10 Thread Bob Sneidar
But Apple is not the one WRITING the games. That was my point. The games are written by other developers for the iPhone. You may as well call the US Government the enemy for creating the internet, or more accurately Intel the enemy for creating a processor that Nintendo cannot or does not use.

Re: Check out Jerry's new videos -- REV to ObjC - iPhone

2010-05-10 Thread Bob Sneidar
Oh I see. I think it was the word outlaw that tripped me up. I guess if you see the iPad as an asset belonging to all of us, you would get the feeling that Apple is outlawing cross platform development. But I don't think any iPad but the one I buy belongs to me or anyone else. I don't see

Android over iPad (was RE: Thoughts on Kevin's announcement)

2010-05-10 Thread Lynn Fredricks
Kevin and team have shown their resilience and brilliance in the transformation department with their announcement today. They've adjusted their roadmap and their offering to keep us all in the game. They have my thanks, trust, and admiration. And my business going forward. I

Re: Object is not an image when Crop command

2010-05-10 Thread JosepM
Hi, Thanks for the replies.. I see the sample Spotlight, very cool. I understand you but I don't know the hidden point technique :) Where add a space in the polygon's list? Salut, Josep -- View this message in context:

Re: News on revMobile

2010-05-10 Thread andr...@medone.ch
The combination of iPhone / iPad AND Windows app development has been seen as a great opportunity for a lot of developers. There where great ideas. So many developer had a HyperCard / RunRev Project to bring to the iPhone AND other platforms. A problem for Apple? Would be great if Apple changes

Re: That nice XML exporter for stacks...

2010-05-10 Thread -= JB =-
There was and Tree View stack that the person programming it said he would release a full version in around April 2010 but I don't know the name of the stack and have not heard anything about it being released. He was going to charge a small fee for it when the full version was released. -=JB=-

RE: News on revMobile

2010-05-10 Thread Lynn Fredricks
Seems like it might be good to put out some press of the rejection. Not to bad mouth Apple, but rather to inform the various tech blogs that the rejection occurred, that several thousand developers share in the disappointment, and that developers are being forced to look at other

Re: Check out Jerry's new videos -- REV to ObjC - iPhone

2010-05-10 Thread Andre Garzia
Bob, You can still break iPhone OS writting Objective-C... If you or jobs doubt that, I invite you guys to look at my own ObjC developments. I can break any hardware. Now, they are mixing correlation with causation. Cross platform is not the bad guy here, poor programmers are. One can write

Re: Object is not an image when Crop command

2010-05-10 Thread JosepM
Mmhh.. but with the backpattern in correct position how crop only these shape... Sorry for my questions, never I must fighted with graphics issues in Rev until now... :) The following is posible? 1 Export the snapshot ruled by the rect of a polygon over one part of the image. 2 Load the

Re: Check out Jerry's new videos -- REV to ObjC - iPhone

2010-05-10 Thread Chipp Walters
Bob, You're more than welcome to your opinion as an Apple apologist-- though I would say your timing right now is probably not the best. I disagree with just about everything you say. You obviously haven't been following our discussion here over the past few weeks where all of your points

Re: Object is not an image when Crop command

2010-05-10 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, JosepM wrote: I understand you but I don't know the hidden point technique :) Where add a space in the polygon's list? A polygon is derived from a list of points, one per line: 23,181 42,190 36,195 23,181 Adding an empty line between points in the list adds an invisible point to

Re: Check out Jerry's new videos -- REV to ObjC - iPhone

2010-05-10 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Bob Sneidar wrote: I don't see what Apple is doing as being monopolistic or engaging in Anti-trust. What they are trying to discourage is using tools to develop apps that can dramatically change the look and feel of their device, or affect stability, or lend themselves to

Re: News on revMobile

2010-05-10 Thread Peter Alcibiades
Very, very sorry to hear this, despite having had no personal interest in developing in Rev for iPhone or iPad. It is a serious disappointment, and you along with many others deserved better from Apple. Which they will one day come to understand. These things always come around in the end.

RE: Check out Jerry's new videos -- REV to ObjC - iPhone

2010-05-10 Thread Randall Lee Reetz
Thank you... Well said. -Original Message- From: Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 12:09 PM To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: Check out Jerry's new videos -- REV to ObjC - iPhone Oh I see. I think it was the word outlaw that

Re: single bit contact closure input [macintosh]

2010-05-10 Thread stephen barncard
That is the cheapest USB solution. At this point I'm thinking of trying some kind of IP based device if I'm going to use a piece of hardware to do this - the 15 foot USB limit is somewhat restrictive. Revolution on a Network based Chip would be cool about now... On 10 May 2010 01:18, Kay C Lan

RE: Check out Jerry's new videos -- REV to ObjC - iPhone

2010-05-10 Thread Lynn Fredricks
Like I said in another post, what would have happened if many of the apps originally written for the iPhone were so buggy they were causing kernel crashes all the time? Who would get the blame? Apple of course. Any attempt to defend themselves would have been deemed finger pointing. I

Send delete file in time

2010-05-10 Thread Bill Vlahos
I want to delete a file on disk but not do it immediately. If I just issue the delete file... command it works right away. delete file Folder/temp/ originalFileName -- Works How do I issue the command to delete it in 20 seconds? If I issue the following it gets a compiler error missing a

Re: Send delete file in time

2010-05-10 Thread Mark Schonewille
Bill, put The original name into originalFileName send deleteFile originalFileName to me in 20 secs on deleteFile originalFileName delete file Folder/temp/ originalFileName end deleteFile -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage:

Re: Send delete file in time

2010-05-10 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Bill Vlahos wrote: I want to delete a file on disk but not do it immediately. If I just issue the delete file... command it works right away. delete file Folder/temp/ originalFileName -- Works How do I issue the command to delete it in 20 seconds? If I issue the following it

Re: Check out Jerry's new videos -- REV to ObjC - iPhone -[OT] Now

2010-05-10 Thread Chipp Walters
You were at Now? What a great company. Now-Up-To-Date was the best group calendar our company ever used. And Boomerang hasn't seen it's match since! On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 3:15 PM, Lynn Fredricks lfredri...@proactive-intl.com wrote: When I was at Now,

Re: Object is not an image when Crop command

2010-05-10 Thread Wilhelm Sanke
JosepM jmyepes at mac.com wrote: OK. Now is imported into imagedata, but now say that is not a rectangle... :( buf... It's posible to export or copy a portion of the image but with a irregular shape? and Scott Rossi scott at tactilemedia.com answered: Recently, Devin Asay wrote:

Re: Send delete file in time

2010-05-10 Thread Bill Vlahos
Mark and Scott, You guys are awesome. That worked. Thank you, Bill Vlahos _ InfoWallet (http://www.infowallet.com) is about keeping your important life information with you, accessible, and secure. On May 10, 2010, at 1:27 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: Recently, Bill Vlahos wrote:

Re: News on revMobile

2010-05-10 Thread Bob Sneidar
I would like to offer my personal apologies for my defense of Steve Jobs and Apple. If I had been asked to bet on whether or not Steve Jobs would have accepted the very fair proposal that RunRev made, I would have give odds that he would. I think I see now that Steve Jobs is taking the stance

Re: News on revMobile

2010-05-10 Thread Chipp Walters
Great links Richard. I would suggest anyone remotely interested in developing for Android should check them out! I seriously doubt Google and Android would pull such a stunt as Jobs and try and outlaw cross platform dev apps for Android. After all, unlike Apple, they have a mantra, and it is Do

Re: Check out Jerry's new videos -- REV to ObjC - iPhone

2010-05-10 Thread Bob Sneidar
You worked for Now Software? That is in my opinion one of the best software companies I ever had dealings with. I really loved their Contact/Up-To-Date. Concerning my prior posts, I had been operating on the assumption that Steve Jobs was making reasonable decisions based on concerns about

Re: News on revMobile

2010-05-10 Thread Chipp Walters
I guess they don't hire geniuses at those Apple stores. ;-) Chipp Walters CEO, Shafer Walters Group, Inc On May 10, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: I would like to offer my personal apologies for my defense of Steve Jobs and Apple. If I had been asked to bet on whether or

RE: Check out Jerry's new videos -- REV to ObjC - iPhone -[OT] Now

2010-05-10 Thread Lynn Fredricks
You were at Now? What a great company. Now-Up-To-Date was the best group calendar our company ever used. And Boomerang hasn't seen it's match since! It was a great company. I was international sales manager there, then after it was acquired by Qualcomm, went over and did my thing there.

RE: Check out Jerry's new videos -- REV to ObjC - iPhone

2010-05-10 Thread Lynn Fredricks
Concerning my prior posts, I had been operating on the assumption that Steve Jobs was making reasonable decisions based on concerns about compatibility, stability and longevity, but after his recent rejection of the proposal that Runrev has made, I don't think that way anymore. I think

[OT] InfoWorld's Peace Plan for Apple vs Adobe

2010-05-10 Thread Chipp Walters
http://www.infoworld.com/print/122878 Interesting read. I suspect Adobe may play, but will Apple? Chipp Walters CEO, Shafer Walters Group, Inc ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe,

[Data Grid] Template column behavior problem

2010-05-10 Thread zryip theSlug
Hi All and presumably Trevor, I have two Data Grids Tables, one in a mainstack and another in a substack. I duplicated my mainstack Data Grid in the substack by a quick copy/paste, and I defined a column behavior in my substack Data Grid. So, in the two Data Grids, I have the same column names.

Will trade iPhone development for revServer development

2010-05-10 Thread Thomas McGrath III
I am willing to discuss trading equal services for those that were relying on developing for the iPhone/iPad. I have written four applications for the iPhone and iPad so far, two of which are for my self and two others were for a client. I have been prototyping iPhone apps since the beginning

Re: News on revMobile

2010-05-10 Thread David Bovill
On 10 May 2010 19:11, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote: As soon as Rev works well on Linux, I will switch back to Linux making a comeback to the land of the free just like I did a switch from linux to macs in 2000. Me too! Actually, in the same way that it looks like the future of

Ann: SearchListLib

2010-05-10 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hello Rev users, Today, I have been working on a search list field, which ended up as a library. SearchListLib is a freeware library for Runtime Revolution. Enter text in a field and watch all relevant items in your list appear in a menu. The result is similar to a combobox, but it shows

Re: [OT] InfoWorld's Peace Plan for Apple vs Adobe

2010-05-10 Thread Ian Wood
Unfortunately step 1 in their peace plan shows a frightening lack of technical knowledge, and the other points aren't much better. :-( VP6 and Spark would both have to be decoded on the CPU, leading to *exactly* the kind of battery draining performance that Jobs complained about. h264

Re: Object is not an image when Crop command

2010-05-10 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Devin Asay wrote: OK. Now is imported into imagedata, but now say that is not a rectangle... :( buf... It's posible to export or copy a portion of the image but with a irregular shape? Maybe I trying something not posible... Crop only works with a rectangle. There may be

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