Re: Required help for reducing High Bandwidth Utilization of Guacamole

2020-03-10 Thread ivanmarcus
Manoj, If you've isolated your bandwidth issue to Xrdp that's useful. My comments around FreeRDP could be equally applied to Xrdp insofar as there may be some tweaks available, or some useful resource your company could provide the Xrdp project. I've not had a lot to do with Xrdp myself so

Re: Required help for reducing High Bandwidth Utilization of Guacamole

2020-03-10 Thread Mike Jumper
On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 8:15 PM Manoj Patil wrote: > ... > When at client side latency is 400-500 guacamole disconnected frequently . > > can you help in this to increased the parameter for checking the > connection to keepalive and checking latency. > The timeout at all levels of the Guacamole

Re: Required help for reducing High Bandwidth Utilization of Guacamole

2020-03-10 Thread Manoj Patil
ivanmarcus, Thanks for cooperation . Xrdp observation-- As per observation and experience i think the measure issue at Xrdp side . Xrdp send the images in bitmap and jpeg compression but i could not see the compression is done or not. second thing is when you move the mouse pointer on

Re: Required help for reducing High Bandwidth Utilization of Guacamole

2020-03-10 Thread ivanmarcus
Manoj, On 11/03/2020 12:02 a.m., Manoj Patil wrote: When connect to FreeRDP client-> xrdp ,bandwidth utilization is also High in idle condition. In running condition using freerdp client utilization is High. Thank you for doing this test. From the above comment I take it that what you

Re: Required help for reducing High Bandwidth Utilization of Guacamole

2020-03-10 Thread Manoj Patil
Dear, When i am connecting through MSRD client to xrdp -- In idle mode Bandwidth utilization is low ,but when i move mouse pointer over windows and run my application bandwidth is utilized high. In reverse i am connect MSRD client to MSRD (windows) host in idle condition bandwidth is low ,

Re: Required help for reducing High Bandwidth Utilization of Guacamole

2020-03-10 Thread ivanmarcus
Manoj, I think the answer you're giving is 'yes' - ie. that the issue you're experiencing is in fact between Guacamole and the Xrdp machine(?). In that case, for the next step, could you try connecting to your Xrdp machine directly via: (1) MSRD client (2) FreeRDP client And compare the

Re: Required help for reducing High Bandwidth Utilization of Guacamole

2020-03-09 Thread ivanmarcus
Manoj, Perhaps I'm struggling to understand completely, but maybe we should just go through this one step at a time. (1) Is the bandwidth issue you're presenty raising between Guacamole and the local (Xrdp) client - NOT between Guacamole and the remote browser? On 10/03/2020 4:20 p.m.,

Re: Required help for reducing High Bandwidth Utilization of Guacamole

2020-03-09 Thread Manoj Patil
Dear ivanmarcus, To be specific. You say MSRDWC uses a lot less bandwidth than Guacamole, however (if I understand correctly) from what you say you're using Guacamole with a Xrdp client machine, and MSRDWC with a MSRD client machine. I suggest you should first test with Guacamole to the MSRD

Re: Required help for reducing High Bandwidth Utilization of Guacamole

2020-03-09 Thread Manoj Patil
Dear I know the discussion is going on .., but still we try to minimised the bandwidth utilization. I see in xrdp code there is a bitmap and jpeg cache and compression with respectively bpp(bit per pixel), width and height . but guacamole can done the compression and cache the bitmap and jpeg.

Re: Required help for reducing High Bandwidth Utilization of Guacamole

2020-03-09 Thread ivanmarcus
Manoj, We may have exhausted our ability to help. As Stefan has pointed out there have been a number of suggestions and explanations around the issue you raise; it could be useful if you were to pursue those in the first instance. One thing that strikes me from your latest post is that

Re: Required help for reducing High Bandwidth Utilization of Guacamole

2020-03-09 Thread Stefan M. Radman
Hi Manoj Several Guacamole users have made useful suggestions over the course of the discussion. Ultimately, the resolution of your issues is in your own hands. Stefan > On Mar 9, 2020, at 08:58, Manoj Patil wrote: > > Dear, > > Any Resolution on my Issues. > > Please suggest any changes at

Re: Required help for reducing High Bandwidth Utilization of Guacamole

2020-03-09 Thread Manoj Patil
Dear, Any Resolution on my Issues. Please suggest any changes at guacamole server and Xrdp host server. On Tue, 3 Mar 2020 at 13:22, Manoj Patil wrote: > Dear ivanmarcus/mike, > > The MSRDP setup is done at my end for testing purpose with same user ,same > screen,same depth etc. we measure

Re: Required help for reducing High Bandwidth Utilization of Guacamole

2020-03-02 Thread Manoj Patil
Dear ivanmarcus/mike, The MSRDP setup is done at my end for testing purpose with same user ,same screen,same depth etc. we measure the bandith for singile session and it is too low. i am already sharing a snapshot in preious mail. *My point is if i used MSRDP web client to acees the server it

Re: Required help for reducing High Bandwidth Utilization of Guacamole

2020-03-02 Thread ivanmarcus
Manoj, I've followed this thread with some interest, and have learnt something from what Mike's been saying about how Guacamole handles image compression etc. I'm not able to contribute much from a softwarec perspective but there are a couple of things that I wonder about. In your tests

Re: Required help for reducing High Bandwidth Utilization of Guacamole

2020-03-02 Thread Mike Jumper
On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 7:07 PM Manoj Patil wrote: > What tool u used for measuring bandwidth. > AWS CloudWatch. Is there any resolution? > There isn't really anything to resolve. As already noted in this thread, the bandwidth you've measured for Guacamole looks fine and the bandwidth we've

Re: Required help for reducing High Bandwidth Utilization of Guacamole

2020-03-02 Thread Manoj Patil
What tool u used for measuring bandwidth. Is there any resolution? As per your snanshot RDP take to much bandwidth utilization . if u also 600 active connwction then the bandwidth utilization is around 40- 45 mbps. On Mon, 2 Mar 2020, 00:45 Mike Jumper, wrote: > On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 1:59 AM

Re: Required help for reducing High Bandwidth Utilization of Guacamole

2020-03-01 Thread Mike Jumper
On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 1:59 AM Manoj Patil wrote: > Dear, > > I am deployed the Microsoft environment at my end and measure the > bandwidth data send and received. > using wireshark. > > please find the attached file one is microsoft web rdp bandwidth > calculation using wireshark and second

Re: Required help for reducing High Bandwidth Utilization of Guacamole

2020-03-01 Thread Mike Jumper
On Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 23:07 Manoj Patil wrote: > Dear, > > Thank For your appreciation . > > The only thing that I noticed is that there is no compression between the > server and the client. > Meaning that full sized base64 encoded PNG images are send to the client, > which causes a high

Re: Required help for reducing High Bandwidth Utilization of Guacamole

2020-02-29 Thread Manoj Patil
Dear, Thank For your appreciation . The only thing that I noticed is that there is no compression between the server and the client. Meaning that full sized base64 encoded PNG images are send to the client, which causes a high network load. i am try to find out why more bandwidth is required

Re: Required help for reducing High Bandwidth Utilization of Guacamole

2020-02-29 Thread Mike Jumper
On Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 20:57 Manoj Patil wrote: > Dear, > > Thanks your valuable replay . > > I observe that when data send from server to client in image/PNG and PNG > take to much bandwidth rather than *Webp.* > No, whether WebP performs better than PNG depends on the content of the image, and

Re: Required help for reducing High Bandwidth Utilization of Guacamole

2020-02-29 Thread Manoj Patil
Dear, Thanks your valuable replay . I observe that when data send from server to client in image/PNG and PNG take to much bandwidth rather than *Webp.* *Please guide us how i am enable or decode image data/PNG to image data/Webp in guacamole server with tomcat with compression?* On Sun, 1 Mar

Re: Required help for reducing High Bandwidth Utilization of Guacamole

2020-02-29 Thread Mike Jumper
On Sat, Feb 29, 2020 at 6:17 AM Manoj Patil wrote: > Dear mike, > > We have captured the Guacamole screen recording as per your suggestions. > please find attachment and guide us what data is sent . > Looking through the recording, everything looks absolutely fine. All updates are incremental,

Re: Required help for reducing High Bandwidth Utilization of Guacamole

2020-02-29 Thread Mike Jumper
On Fri, Feb 28, 2020, 20:17 Manoj Patil wrote: > Dear Mike, > > I am capture the screen as per your suggestion , when i am opening the > first screen of my app. this screen will download as image/png and again i > am opening same screen again this screen will be download . > > all above i am

Re: Required help for reducing High Bandwidth Utilization of Guacamole

2020-02-28 Thread Mike Jumper
On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 6:34 AM Manoj Patil wrote: > Dear Mike, > > Today we have measured bandwidth utilization using another verified tool > on our server and had below observations : > > 1. It seems that whenever *single *user session is in idle mode (No > screen change) , the bandwidth

Re: Required help for reducing High Bandwidth Utilization of Guacamole

2020-02-28 Thread Manoj Patil
Dear Mike, Today we have measured bandwidth utilization using another verified tool on our server and had below observations : 1. It seems that whenever *single *user session is in idle mode (No screen change) , the bandwidth utilization is almost 707 B/s (which is low) 2. And whenever *single

Re: Required help for reducing High Bandwidth Utilization of Guacamole

2020-02-23 Thread Manoj Patil
Dear Mike/Nick, For your below question, PF below reply. Sean makes a really good point, and, really, it brings us back to one of Mike's questions, Manoj: what problem are you trying to solve? Are you seeing congestion on the network when you use Guacamole? Is the Guacamole connection

Re: Required help for reducing High Bandwidth Utilization of Guacamole

2020-02-22 Thread Mike Jumper
Manoj, Guacamole will not send image data if the connection is idle. Images are sent only when content on the screen is changing and only for the part of the screen that changed. Earlier in this conversation, you described 90 Kbps. This has now become 1.8 Mbps. I assume you are now measuring

Re: Required help for reducing High Bandwidth Utilization of Guacamole

2020-02-22 Thread Manoj Patil
Hi nick, Yes , I am seeing encoded images at idle connection and frequently packet send recive ACK and SYN through server to client and vice versa . I am seeing high resource utilization for the Guacamole components on the web browser. I am also cross check bandwidth utilization RDP with using

Re: Required help for reducing High Bandwidth Utilization of Guacamole

2020-02-22 Thread Nick Couchman
On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 12:35 PM Sean Reid wrote: > Hi Manoj, > > Guacd has a few formats at its disposal to send images: PNG, JPEG, and > optionally webp. PNG is lossless, JPEG and webp are lossy. Guacd chooses > heuristically which it will use based on things like the current framerate, > the

Re: Required help for reducing High Bandwidth Utilization of Guacamole

2020-02-22 Thread Sean Reid
Hi Manoj, Guacd has a few formats at its disposal to send images: PNG, JPEG, and optionally webp. PNG is lossless, JPEG and webp are lossy. Guacd chooses heuristically which it will use based on things like the current framerate, the size of the image, and whether or not PNG is just better at

Re: Required help for reducing High Bandwidth Utilization of Guacamole

2020-02-22 Thread Manoj Patil
The only thing that I noticed is that there is no compression between the server and the client. Meaning that full sized base64 encoded PNG images are send to the client, which causes a high network load (~1.8mb/s) On Tue, 18 Feb 2020, 09:05 Mike Jumper, wrote: > No, unless the RDP server is

Re: Required help for reducing High Bandwidth Utilization of Guacamole

2020-02-17 Thread Mike Jumper
No, unless the RDP server is horribly broken, Guacamole will receive only incremental updates for the changed portions of the screen, and will only forward incremental updates to the client. On Mon, Feb 17, 2020, 18:46 Manoj Patil wrote: > Mike, > > I am really see on chrome when I am open a

Re: Required help for reducing High Bandwidth Utilization of Guacamole

2020-02-17 Thread Mike Jumper
On Mon, Feb 17, 2020, 10:35 Manoj Patil wrote: > Hi mike > > Help me in that matter how I am decrypt the tcp packet. And find out what > data is travel? > > I am using domain name with https connection. > You can't. You need to capture the data at a point where it is not encrypted. - Mike

Re: Required help for reducing High Bandwidth Utilization of Guacamole

2020-02-17 Thread Manoj Patil
Hi mike Help me in that matter how I am decrypt the tcp packet. And find out what data is travel? I am using domain name with https connection. On Mon, 17 Feb 2020, 23:44 Mike Jumper, wrote: > On Mon, Feb 17, 2020, 10:09 Manoj Patil wrote: > >> Hi , >> >> I am see in browser Guacamole send

Re: Required help for reducing High Bandwidth Utilization of Guacamole

2020-02-17 Thread Mike Jumper
On Mon, Feb 17, 2020, 10:09 Manoj Patil wrote: > Hi , > > I am see in browser Guacamole send full-screen images from the server to > the client. > Can this is utilized bandwidth? > No, Guacamole does not do this. Guacamole sends incremental rectangles of image data, *not* full screen images.

Re: Required help for reducing High Bandwidth Utilization of Guacamole

2020-02-17 Thread Manoj Patil
Hi , I am see in browser Guacamole send full-screen images from the server to the client. Can this is utilized bandwidth? On Mon, 17 Feb 2020, 06:08 Mike Jumper, wrote: > On Sun, Feb 16, 2020, 16:31 Manoj Patil wrote: > >> Thanks Mike , >> >> I am continuously check http request and capture

Re: Required help for reducing High Bandwidth Utilization of Guacamole

2020-02-16 Thread Mike Jumper
On Sun, Feb 16, 2020, 16:31 Manoj Patil wrote: > Thanks Mike , > > I am continuously check http request and capture the packet I see ACK is > continuously from server to client side and client to server s oh side in > idle session . > ACK packets are just part of TCP. You need to actually look

Re: Required help for reducing High Bandwidth Utilization of Guacamole

2020-02-16 Thread Manoj Patil
Thanks Mike , I am continuously check http request and capture the packet I see ACK is continuously from server to client side and client to server s oh side in idle session . Please help us in how can I check at my end to find out where is the problem of high bandwidth utilization. On Mon, 17

Re: Required help for reducing High Bandwidth Utilization of Guacamole

2020-02-16 Thread Mike Jumper
On Sun, Feb 16, 2020, 16:03 Manoj Patil wrote: > Dear mike, > > In last reply of Nick he said there is any traffic of audio and I am > check the http traffic and send you I see the the word in this traffic is > guac_audio . but I am not enable the audio settings . > That is not audio traffic.

Re: Required help for reducing High Bandwidth Utilization of Guacamole

2020-02-16 Thread Manoj Patil
Dear mike, In last reply of Nick he said there is any traffic of audio and I am check the http traffic and send you I see the the word in this traffic is guac_audio . but I am not enable the audio settings . Please check http request and guide us GET

Re: Required help for reducing High Bandwidth Utilization of Guacamole

2020-02-16 Thread Mike Jumper
Manoj, what are you trying to ask? I'm confused about what is confusing here. The last response to your question about disabling audio explains exactly that, and points to documentation which also explains this. On Sun, Feb 16, 2020, 09:08 Manoj Patil wrote: > GET >

Re: Required help for reducing High Bandwidth Utilization of Guacamole

2020-02-16 Thread Manoj Patil
GET /aceBankCBS/websocket-tunnel?token=010A36823D3FF22287309A8C592C1B046E50465362DC4F6B9CE1C2E53A2489CB_DATA_SOURCE=mysql_ID=274_TYPE=c_WIDTH=1366_HEIGHT=635_DPI=96_AUDIO=audio%2FL8_AUDIO=audio%2FL16_IMAGE=image%2Fjpeg_IMAGE=image%2Fpng_IMAGE=image%2Fwebp HTTP/1.1 Host: 103.115.232.22:2790

Re: Required help for reducing High Bandwidth Utilization of Guacamole

2020-02-16 Thread Manoj Patil
Hi all Today I am see in tcp and web socket packet there is audio traffic is found but I am not enable the audio I think by default audio is enable when guacamole is install . Please guide us how to disable the audio communication from server to client and viceversa . I am using mysql

Re: Required help for reducing High Bandwidth Utilization of Guacamole

2020-02-16 Thread ivanmarcus
In the Guacamole GUI there's a tickbox 'disable audio' You could also check this out: http://guacamole.apache.org/doc/gug/configuring-guacamole.html which explains how the audio works (and from that perhaps how you might deal with it in your configuration). On 16/02/2020 12:05 p.m., Manoj

Re: Required help for reducing High Bandwidth Utilization of Guacamole

2020-02-15 Thread Manoj Patil
Hi I agree to we can not send u un- encrypted traffic for checking but as per discussion I ask you how to check at guacamole end if audio is enabled? And if enabled then give me solution for disable the audio streaming On Thu, 13 Feb 2020, 22:19 Nick Couchman, wrote: > On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at

Re: Required help for reducing High Bandwidth Utilization of Guacamole

2020-02-13 Thread Nick Couchman
On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 9:03 AM Manoj Patil wrote: > Hello Mike, > > We have investigate further and there in we found that there's an > continues ACK/SYN/PING traffic flows between server and client for an > absolutely idle session. > > Yes, this is by design - the Guacamole protocol has

Re: Required help for reducing High Bandwidth Utilization of Guacamole

2020-02-13 Thread Manoj Patil
Hello Mike, We have investigate further and there in we found that there's an continues ACK/SYN/PING traffic flows between server and client for an absolutely idle session. Due to which number of packets and in turn data exchange increases continuously for an absolutely idle session. Can you

Re: Required help for reducing High Bandwidth Utilization of Guacamole

2020-02-12 Thread Mike Jumper
On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 2:23 AM Manoj Patil wrote: > Dear, > > As per our observation we found that there is continuous send receive > traffic from server to client and vise versa in every fractions of > seconds(may be checking the network availability ) , however we are not > doing any