Re: change of ip address

2018-04-10 Thread mdbarber
Hi nick and joseph, think i have figured out what is going on and how i 
missed it ( always important!)

this is above my paygrade but i owe a favour so...
when i change to static addressing, on the server, it is 
somewhere/somehow causing the effect that the hostnames are being 
resolved outside the local network and hence the connections are 
failing(timing out anyway).
I suddenly realised that to test the connections to the rdp hosts i was 
using the ip addresses which i had memorised having only tested pinging 
by hostname before the change to static.
testing now, the hostnames failed to ping and displayed a resolution of 
an unknown address way outside the lan addressing scheme, remembering 
from somewhere way back i tried adding a (the default windows ".home") 
domain suffix to the hostnames and hey presto, able to ping from server 
again.
as there will be no need for a full blown domain setup in the proposed 
install i had simply relied on the bt router to resolve hostnames and 
somehow this change to static is causing it to pass on the dns request 
and not handle it as a local host despite the servers ip address being 
compliant with the local scheme.
i did try adding this suffix to the user-mapping connection but no joy 
there guacamole did not like that :)

any ideas
regards
mark barber




Nick Couchman wrote:



On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 7:45 AM, Joseph L. Casale 
mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com>> wrote:


-Original Message-
From: mdbarber mailto:md...@aol.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 3:45 AM
To: Joseph L. Casale mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com>>
    Subject: Re: change of ip address

> the guacd.conf and guacamole properties confirm the pointers are to
> "localhost" no mention in there of ip addresses
>
> to give a little more detail i have my main desktop running a vbox
> ubuntu 16.04server all is setup and working with a
> mixture of vmware player and vbox windows clients and basic
> authentication on guac.
> ll i do is change from dhcp to static on server and i can still
connect
> to the guac interface ok, connect to the server/ssh connection i
have
> set up in guac even connect to the native ssh with putty and my
mssql
> connection to my app is fine, it appears to only be an issue
with guac/rdp
> connections to the windows clients after the change.

In that case, it sounds like your networking configuration when you
migrate to static is slightly incorrect. Tough to speculate but
with the
virtualization products you are using, some use bridging or nat which
can cause issues like this were depending on the destination, you may
or may not reach it as a result of where in the topology the
source and
destination reside.

Simplest might be to look at the default gateway and mask when you
use a dynamic IP versus static (probably the issue). You can also fire
up tcpdump with some basic filtering to see if packets return etc.

Ps. Remember to reply-all so the list gets a copy.



One other thing to consider is ARP caches on various devices along the 
way - if you're switching back and forth between DHCP and static very 
rapidly, it's possible that one of the systems caching the ARP 
information for the Guacamole host is not flushing that cache in a 
timely fashion, resulting in hosts not knowing where to find the 
system.  You could try manually flushing ARP caches and see if that 
works - but Joseph is also correct that you need to make sure your 
network config is exactly as it should be.


-Nick




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Re: change of ip address

2018-04-10 Thread Nick Couchman
On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 7:45 AM, Joseph L. Casale  wrote:

> -Original Message-
> From: mdbarber 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 3:45 AM
> To: Joseph L. Casale 
> Subject: Re: change of ip address
>
> > the guacd.conf and guacamole properties confirm the pointers are to
> > "localhost" no mention in there of ip addresses
> >
> > to give a little more detail i have my main desktop running a vbox
> > ubuntu 16.04server all is setup and working with a
> > mixture of vmware player and vbox windows clients and basic
> > authentication on guac.
> > ll i do is change from dhcp to static on server and i can still connect
> > to the guac interface ok, connect to the server/ssh connection i have
> > set up in guac even connect to the native ssh with putty and my mssql
> > connection to my app is fine, it appears to only be an issue with
> guac/rdp
> > connections to the windows clients after the change.
>
> In that case, it sounds like your networking configuration when you
> migrate to static is slightly incorrect. Tough to speculate but with the
> virtualization products you are using, some use bridging or nat which
> can cause issues like this were depending on the destination, you may
> or may not reach it as a result of where in the topology the source and
> destination reside.
>
> Simplest might be to look at the default gateway and mask when you
> use a dynamic IP versus static (probably the issue). You can also fire
> up tcpdump with some basic filtering to see if packets return etc.
>
> Ps. Remember to reply-all so the list gets a copy.
>


One other thing to consider is ARP caches on various devices along the way
- if you're switching back and forth between DHCP and static very rapidly,
it's possible that one of the systems caching the ARP information for the
Guacamole host is not flushing that cache in a timely fashion, resulting in
hosts not knowing where to find the system.  You could try manually
flushing ARP caches and see if that works - but Joseph is also correct that
you need to make sure your network config is exactly as it should be.

-Nick


RE: change of ip address

2018-04-10 Thread Joseph L. Casale
-Original Message-
From: mdbarber 
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 3:45 AM
To: Joseph L. Casale 
Subject: Re: change of ip address
 
> the guacd.conf and guacamole properties confirm the pointers are to
> "localhost" no mention in there of ip addresses
> 
> to give a little more detail i have my main desktop running a vbox
> ubuntu 16.04server all is setup and working with a
> mixture of vmware player and vbox windows clients and basic
> authentication on guac.
> ll i do is change from dhcp to static on server and i can still connect
> to the guac interface ok, connect to the server/ssh connection i have
> set up in guac even connect to the native ssh with putty and my mssql
> connection to my app is fine, it appears to only be an issue with guac/rdp
> connections to the windows clients after the change.

In that case, it sounds like your networking configuration when you
migrate to static is slightly incorrect. Tough to speculate but with the
virtualization products you are using, some use bridging or nat which
can cause issues like this were depending on the destination, you may
or may not reach it as a result of where in the topology the source and
destination reside.

Simplest might be to look at the default gateway and mask when you
use a dynamic IP versus static (probably the issue). You can also fire
up tcpdump with some basic filtering to see if packets return etc.

Ps. Remember to reply-all so the list gets a copy.


RE: change of ip address

2018-04-10 Thread Joseph L. Casale
-Original Message-
From: mdbarber 
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 3:25 AM
To: user@guacamole.apache.org
Subject: change of ip address
 
> not sure where to start but will keep it short here, can add more detail
> if required.
> initial setup of ubuntu in a VM with dhcp, most things working fine,
> change to static IP and initital connection to guac ok but guacamole rdp
> connections fall over with simple time out error messages
> change back to dhcp and after refreshing mac addresses in VM works fine
> again.
> any ideas where to start looking?
> tia
> mdb

If the java app and proxy are on the same host, it sounds like
your pointer to guacd is using an external IP address instead
of a loopback address (which would fail as well once the dhcp
server hands out a different address).


change of ip address

2018-04-10 Thread mdbarber
not sure where to start but will keep it short here, can add more detail 
if required.
initial setup of ubuntu in a VM with dhcp, most things working fine, 
change to static IP and initital connection to guac ok but guacamole rdp 
connections fall over with simple time out error messages
change back to dhcp and after refreshing mac addresses in VM works fine 
again.

any ideas where to start looking?
tia
mdb

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