Re: [Neo4j] storing long values overflow

2011-06-17 Thread Mattias Persson
Hi Niels, this is now fixed. Thanks for the test case. 2011/6/17 Mattias Persson matt...@neotechnology.com I'm on this one, since I'm assuming I'm the one introducing it. And yes there are some tests around this that I wrote for these changes... apparently now good enough. 2011/6/17 Jim

Re: [Neo4j] Change in behavior for QueryContext with IndexNode ?

2011-06-17 Thread Mattias Persson
Hi Kalin, I'll have a look at it right now 2011/6/17 Kalin Wilson Development d...@kalinwilson.com Perhaps this is fixed in the latest milestone release, I haven't had a chance to test it yet. I upgraded from 1.3M03 to 1.4M03 and found that my code that queried node indexes using a

Re: [Neo4j] Change in behavior for QueryContext with IndexNode ?

2011-06-17 Thread Mattias Persson
I cannot reproduce this. I'm trying it with this code: // I also tried with FULLTEXT_CONFIG IndexNode index = graphDb.index().forNodes( qc, LuceneIndexImplementation.EXACT_CONFIG ); Node node = graphDb.createNode(); index.add( node, key, value );

Re: [Neo4j] ClosedChannelExceptions in highly concurrent environment

2011-06-17 Thread Johan Svensson
Great. Will merge that patch into trunk as soon as possible. -Johan On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:21 PM, Jennifer Hickey jhic...@vmware.com wrote: Hi Johan, Sorry for the delay.  I was finally able to try out that patch (against 1.3) on our test environment, and things are running smoothly.  I

[Neo4j] Find 2nd degree friends in order of mutual friend

2011-06-17 Thread Fajar Maulana Firdaus
Hi all, I am new to neo4j and excited to know more about graph database. First of all, could anyone please help me to figure out the documentation about the query or rest client? Then, back to my question, I want to find 2nd degree friends but ordered by number of mutual friend. I understand

Re: [Neo4j] Traversals versus Indexing

2011-06-17 Thread Mattias Persson
getNodeById is fast/immediate 2011/6/16 Aseem Kishore aseem.kish...@gmail.com Indeed getNodeById(). Aseem On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Mattias Persson matt...@neotechnology.com wrote: Are you thinking of GraphDatabaseService#getNodeById / #getRelationshipById ? Or index

Re: [Neo4j] Find 2nd degree friends in order of mutual friend

2011-06-17 Thread Peter Neubauer
Hi Fajar, this is a depth 2 traversal from the person in question. While exhaustively traversing his friends, you increase the group count as for each FOAF you get on the second step. However, we have seen edge cases with supernodes where in a social network, persons can have 50K friends. There,

Re: [Neo4j] storing long values overflow

2011-06-17 Thread Niels Hoogeveen
Hi Mattias, You're welcome. It actually helped me gain insight in the workings of the in-graph Timeline component, since that started to behave eratically (having later entries appearing as previous entries). It took some time before I realized the problem was in kernel and not in Timeline.

[Neo4j] Node[] or Relationship[] as properties

2011-06-17 Thread Aniceto Perez
I think it could be very useful to add these types as possible property values Node or Node[] Relationship or Relationship[] This is useful to implement more complex graphs. For instance, security roles: I can define a security role as a node and users nodes can

Re: [Neo4j] Node[] or Relationship[] as properties

2011-06-17 Thread Rick Bullotta
I think some further understanding of Neo4J and graph databases would help: Node == precisely what a single relationship from a node accomplishes Node[] == precisely what multiple relationships from a node accomplishes -Original Message- From: user-boun...@lists.neo4j.org

[Neo4j] Parallelism

2011-06-17 Thread Norbert Tausch
Hi, is it possible to traverse on a Neo4J graph DB using the Java API in parallel threads? Is this possible within one transaction or does every thread has to use its own transaction? Is the API thread-safe concerning read-only access? Is there any advantage of concerning parallelism when using

[Neo4j] all values of a key-object pair

2011-06-17 Thread Niels Hoogeveen
I have run into the situation where I want to add key value pairs to the Lucene index, where I have no need to store the value in a property, but I would like to know which values are stored in the Lucene index for a given key-object pair. Use case: Loading Dbpedia in Neo4J, I load all

Re: [Neo4j] all values of a key-object pair

2011-06-17 Thread Rick Bullotta
Hi, Niels. Mattias just responded yesterday to me on a similar question. See below: Rick == Hi Rick, you could probably get the keys from the IndexReader, like so: // I'm in LuceneIndex now public IterableString getKeys() { IndexSearcherRef searcher =

Re: [Neo4j] all values of a key-object pair

2011-06-17 Thread Niels Hoogeveen
Thanks Rick, I will try out this code. For my use case, I don't mind the lack of transactional state, though I can imagine there to be use cases where having access to transactional state is requred. It would be nice if this somehow would become part of the standard Neo4j API. Niels From:

Re: [Neo4j] Parallelism

2011-06-17 Thread Johan Svensson
Hi, That is possible (and even recommended). The Java API is thread safe (with the exception of batch inserter) both for reads and writes. Each thread may use its own transaction but it is not required to have a transaction when performing read operations (only for writes). Reading is lock free

Re: [Neo4j] Spring Data Graph 1.1.0.M1 milestone released

2011-06-17 Thread Alfredas Chmieliauskas
Thanks a lot. On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 3:20 PM, Michael Hunger michael.hun...@neotechnology.com wrote: You could just use the direct repository factory for that. directGraphRepositoryFactory.createGraphRepository(clazz).findAll() normally you would have a interface PersonRepository extends

Re: [Neo4j] Parallelism

2011-06-17 Thread Chris Gioran
Hi, Keep in mind that Neo4j is a fully ACID database. As such, it is safe to use in the same manner as any other ACID database, since it makes use of locking over primitives, deadlock detection, isolation between transactions etc. Having said that: Yes, the API Neo4j exposes is suitable for

Re: [Neo4j] Find 2nd degree friends in order of mutual friend

2011-06-17 Thread fajarmf
Oh thank you, As I mentioned, I am new to neo4j. So a little sample code would be very useful in my learning process. :) My current state is that I managed to add few nodes, and add friend relationship between several nodes. User - friend - other node. Friend is relationship I don't have a

Re: [Neo4j] Change in behavior for QueryContext with IndexNode ?

2011-06-17 Thread Kalin Wilson Development
Thanks Mattias, I'll use the 1.4M04 jars and try my code again. If I get the NPE, I'll post my code. On Jun 17, 2011, at 1:57 AM, Mattias Persson wrote: I cannot reproduce this. I'm trying it with this code: // I also tried with FULLTEXT_CONFIG IndexNode index =

Re: [Neo4j] Find 2nd degree friends in order of mutual friend

2011-06-17 Thread Marko Rodriguez
Hi, In Gremlin (http://gremlin.tinkerpop.com), friends of a friend (FOAF) who are not my friends: x = [] as Set g.v(1).out('friend').aggregate(x).out('friend').except(x) - x is a Set to save intermediate friend vertices to to exclude (except) from the final step. - g is your

Re: [Neo4j] Find 2nd degree friends in order of mutual friend

2011-06-17 Thread fajarmf
Thank you for the code, I will use it as starting point of learning gremlin. Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss...! -Original Message- From: Marko Rodriguez okramma...@gmail.com Sender: user-boun...@lists.neo4j.org Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 07:31:26

Re: [Neo4j] User Digest, Vol 51, Issue 110

2011-06-17 Thread Aniceto Pérez y Madrid
I agree,a Node is something that has 2 (user managed) fields: Relationship[] Property[] and a Relationship is something that has 2 (user managed) fields: Node[2] Property[] and currently Property has two fields String key Object value where Object can be a scalar or array of basic types:

Re: [Neo4j] User Digest, Vol 51, Issue 110

2011-06-17 Thread Peter Neubauer
Aniceto, introducing real Node and Relationship links as fields on Nodes and relationships would essentially blur the distinction between Nodes, Properties and Relationships, and let you treat the graph as a Hypergraph. We find that model too abstract and hard to deal with the edge cases of these

[Neo4j] Neo4J server - java

2011-06-17 Thread Antriani Stylianou
Hi, A startup question here! Can I connect from java to a neo4j server running the database without using the REST API or the Remote Server.? Something like : GraphDatabaseService graphDb = new EmbeddedGraphDatabase(localhost:7474/); Thanks, A.

Re: [Neo4j] Neo4J server - java

2011-06-17 Thread McKinley
This should help http://docs.neo4j.org/chunked/1.4-SNAPSHOT/server-embedded.html Cheers, McKinley On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Antriani Stylianou antrian...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, A startup question here! Can I connect from java to a neo4j server running the database without using the

Re: [Neo4j] Neo4J server - java

2011-06-17 Thread Charles Bedon
Hello More info: http://www.mail-archive.com/user@lists.neo4j.org/msg08629.html However, by definition, an embedded db is just a file. -Charles Edward Bedón CortázarITIL Foundation CertifiedOpen Source Network Inventory for the masses!

Re: [Neo4j] Blueprints implementation for Neo4J server/ REST?

2011-06-17 Thread Eelco Hillenius
while REST is not a very performant way to access any low level API directly, there is a Java Wrapper for the Neo4j API over REST from Michael Hunger https://github.com/jexp/neo4j-java-rest-binding that does the Neo4j API over REST. Gave this a try. Works great! Thanks for that contribution.

Re: [Neo4j] Neo4J server - java

2011-06-17 Thread Chris Gioran
Hi Antriani, no, besides the two ways you mention, such functionality is not currently available, with a question mark over the HA way, depending on your use case. I assume what you need is to program against a remotely running instance of Neo4j through the same Java API, kind of like what is

Re: [Neo4j] Neo4J server - java

2011-06-17 Thread Antriani Stylianou
Hi, That answered my question! I was just aiming for performance and thought that java api would be better than REST. a. On 6/17/11 6:34 PM, Chris Gioran wrote: Hi Antriani, no, besides the two ways you mention, such functionality is not currently available, with a question mark over the HA

Re: [Neo4j] Node and Relationships as properties

2011-06-17 Thread Aniceto Perez
Peter This could be a use case: Let's have users, roles, permissions and communities. Each role is defined as a permissions set. Users have assigned a list of roles for every community they belong to. If roles could be assigned this way (user)-- (has_role)[community_neo4j] -- (role) we

Re: [Neo4j] Neo4J server - java

2011-06-17 Thread Chris Gioran
Of course, on the other hand, if the access method per se is the problem, then Michael Hunger has this to offer: https://github.com/jexp/neo4j-java-rest-binding which is a wrapper that exposes the REST server endpoint as a GraphDatabaseService. Everything works through REST so performance

Re: [Neo4j] Traversals versus Indexing

2011-06-17 Thread Aseem Kishore
Cool, thanks! On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 5:01 AM, Mattias Persson matt...@neotechnology.comwrote: getNodeById is fast/immediate 2011/6/16 Aseem Kishore aseem.kish...@gmail.com Indeed getNodeById(). Aseem On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Mattias Persson matt...@neotechnology.com

Re: [Neo4j] Announcing Neo4j 1.4 M04 “Kiruna Stol”

2011-06-17 Thread Aseem Kishore
Quick q: will the new REST API batching feature treat the operations as a single transaction? That would be convenient for some scenarios I think, like swapping two nodes in a linked list. Aseem On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 7:48 AM, Peter Neubauer peter.neuba...@neotechnology.com wrote: Hello

[Neo4j] Null when iterating relationships

2011-06-17 Thread Aniceto Pérez y Madrid
BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; }Hi I have a graph where each node of a class have a relationship to a master-class node and it has a relationship to referenceNode. Using 1.4.M04 and EmbeddedServer. I have a loop over all the relationships of the referenceNode,

[Neo4j] Connecting to a standalone server (not embedded server)

2011-06-17 Thread Aniceto Pérez y Madrid
BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; }I've been digging into documentation and it seems there is no Java wrapper to access it, only the REST API. Is that correct? Thanks ___ Neo4j mailing list User@lists.neo4j.org

Re: [Neo4j] Connecting to a standalone server (not embedded server)

2011-06-17 Thread Jim Webber
Hello Aniceto, Michael Hunger wrote a Java wrapper that uses the REST API under the covers: https://github.com/jexp/neo4j-java-rest-binding As Chris pointed out a couple of emails ago, although this API is similar to the embedded API, it goes over HTTP and so is far slower. Jim On 17 Jun

Re: [Neo4j] Node and Relationships as properties

2011-06-17 Thread Niels Hoogeveen
You can create a node type community-role with two outgoing relations in_community and with_role, which respectively point to a community and to a role. The user node can then have a relationship has_community-role pointing to a community-role node. Every hypergraph structure can in

Re: [Neo4j] Extent of Indexing

2011-06-17 Thread Aman
Mattias, I just listed one of the use cases, I have ample types of relationships in my database. I will be connecting all the 50k users to certain common nodes that will depict something about the users. Example: A user node can be directly/indirectly related to a place node that will depict the

[Neo4j] Neo4j with MapReduce inserts

2011-06-17 Thread sulabh choudhury
I am trying to write MapReduce job to do Neo4j Batchinserters. It works fine when I just run it like a java file(runs in local mode) and does the insert, but when I try to run it in the distributed mode it does not write to the graph. Is it issue related to permissions? I have no clue where to

[Neo4j] Generating suggestions in a Neo4j db

2011-06-17 Thread Aman
This is an extension of previous questions that I had posted (although no knowledge of them is needed to understand this). Here's what the relations look like in my db... User1---VISITED PLACES--- Empty NodeHAS VISITED Usa User2---VISITED PLACES--- Empty NodeHAS VISITED Usa

Re: [Neo4j] Announcing Neo4j 1.4 M04 “Kiruna Stol”

2011-06-17 Thread Michael Hunger
yes it does. one tx per batch M Sent from my iBrick4 Am 17.06.2011 um 19:17 schrieb Aseem Kishore aseem.kish...@gmail.com: Quick q: will the new REST API batching feature treat the operations as a single transaction? That would be convenient for some scenarios I think, like swapping two

Re: [Neo4j] Neo4j with MapReduce inserts

2011-06-17 Thread Jim Webber
Hello Sulabh, We're going to need a little more information before we can help. Can you tell us how it fails? Are you trying to run a batch inserter on different databases on each of your parallel jobs? Jim ___ Neo4j mailing list

Re: [Neo4j] Generating suggestions in a Neo4j db

2011-06-17 Thread Jim Webber
Hi Aman, I'm puzzled. Why not Aman--HAS_VISITED--USA Jim--HAS_VISITED--India And if: Aman--FRIEND-OF--Jim Then you just need to traverse from Aman following outgoing FRIEND_OF relationships to all your friends, and then traverse out their outgoing HAS_VISITED relationships to find places

[Neo4j] Integer cost property

2011-06-17 Thread Josh Adell
I am using the Dijkstra path finding algorithm. I have several relationships set up through the REST interface with a cost property called distance. Unfortunately, it seems like I can't make the property a round number like 2.0, either through REST calls or through the webadmin panel. It always

Re: [Neo4j] Neo4j with MapReduce inserts

2011-06-17 Thread Michael Hunger
Also, what technology are you writing those map-reduce jobs with ? (framework, runtime-env, etc). Some code samples would be great as well. Cheers Michael Am 17.06.2011 um 22:24 schrieb Jim Webber: Hello Sulabh, We're going to need a little more information before we can help. Can

Re: [Neo4j] Integer cost property

2011-06-17 Thread Jim Webber
Hi Josh, I'm currently working on some REST API stuff, so my head's right in this space. I'm happy to take a look at this is if you send over a failing test. Jim On 17 Jun 2011, at 21:34, Josh Adell wrote: I am using the Dijkstra path finding algorithm. I have several relationships set up

Re: [Neo4j] Node and Relationships as properties

2011-06-17 Thread Aniceto Pérez y Madrid
BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; }Yes, but you have to add an intermediate node and then graph becomes to be like the 4th normal form in SQL. An artifact to adapt real life scenarios to pure and simple technologies. Again an impedance mismatch between real life and

Re: [Neo4j] Connecting to a standalone server (not embedded server)

2011-06-17 Thread Aniceto Pérez y Madrid
BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; }It seems there is a class named ORG.NEO4J.REST.GRAPHDB.RESTGRAPHDATABASE that implements GraphDatabaseService, but despite that package, javadocs are in the spring-data server, and probably the class be also part of

Re: [Neo4j] Neo4j with MapReduce inserts

2011-06-17 Thread sulabh choudhury
Well as I mentioned the code does not fail anywhere, it runs it full course and just skips the writing to the graph part. I have just one graph and I pass just 1 instance of the batchInserter to the map function. My code is in Scala, sample code attached below class ExportReducer extends

Re: [Neo4j] Neo4j with MapReduce inserts

2011-06-17 Thread Michael Hunger
Hi Sulabh, what do you mean by 'local' mode? The batch inserter can only be used in a single threaded environment. You shouldn't use it in a concurrent env as it will fail unpredictably. Please use the EmbeddedGraphDatabase instead. Michael Am 17.06.2011 um 23:20 schrieb sulabh choudhury:

Re: [Neo4j] Node and Relationships as properties

2011-06-17 Thread Niels Hoogeveen
That impedance mismatch you speak of can be overcome by writing your own API on top of Neo4J. Nothing keeps you for creating your own application layer that allows you to do the things you want to do. If you want relationships on relationships, create your own classes and interfaces, using

Re: [Neo4j] Neo4j with MapReduce inserts

2011-06-17 Thread sulabh choudhury
Are you referring that in a M/R environment each Map (or Reduce) process will try to have its own instance of batchInserter and hence it would fail ? WHen I say local I mean that the code works fine when I just use the M/R api but fails when I try to run in distributed mode. On Fri, Jun 17, 2011

Re: [Neo4j] Connecting to a standalone server (not embedded server)

2011-06-17 Thread Jim Webber
Hi Aniceto, It happens that there is a similar class in SDG, but you should look at the version in Michael Hunger's repo: https://github.com/jexp/neo4j-java-rest-binding Jim ___ Neo4j mailing list User@lists.neo4j.org

Re: [Neo4j] Neo4j with MapReduce inserts

2011-06-17 Thread Michael Hunger
No that would even be worse. A single BatchInserter and every graphdb-store that is currently written to by a batch inserter MUST be accessed from only a single single threaded environment. Please use the normal EmbeddedGraphDbService for your multi-threaded MR jobs. Cheers Michael Am

Re: [Neo4j] Neo4j with MapReduce inserts

2011-06-17 Thread sulabh choudhury
Alright thank you all On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Michael Hunger michael.hun...@neotechnology.com wrote: No that would even be worse. A single BatchInserter and every graphdb-store that is currently written to by a batch inserter MUST be accessed from only a single single threaded

Re: [Neo4j] traversing backwards to reference node

2011-06-17 Thread Matt C
Thanks guys, this mailing list is awesome. On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 6:29 AM, Marko Rodriguez okramma...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, I think what he's asking for is just to collect properties along the way. Yea. You are right he said adding a name property to a list. In Gremlin, if you are

Re: [Neo4j] Announcing Neo4j 1.4 M04 “Kiruna Stol”

2011-06-17 Thread Aseem Kishore
That's awesome! Thanks. Aseem On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Michael Hunger michael.hun...@neotechnology.com wrote: yes it does. one tx per batch M Sent from my iBrick4 Am 17.06.2011 um 19:17 schrieb Aseem Kishore aseem.kish...@gmail.com: Quick q: will the new REST API batching

Re: [Neo4j] Integer cost property

2011-06-17 Thread Josh Adell
Jim, The best I can do as far as a failing test is this series of curl calls. I create 2 nodes, then connect them with a relationship that has a property called distance. When I ask for paths without specifying the algorithm, I get back the path with the relationship. When I specify the

Re: [Neo4j] Integer cost property

2011-06-17 Thread Jim Webber
Hi Josh, I'm just wiring up a bunch of code that implements REST paging, and then I'll codify these tests and sort it out. Jim On 18 Jun 2011, at 01:17, Josh Adell wrote: Jim, The best I can do as far as a failing test is this series of curl calls. I create 2 nodes, then connect them with

Re: [Neo4j] Can I model a Graph data structure without persisting it in DB using Neo4j ?

2011-06-17 Thread V
Any suggestions on this please ? On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 11:03 PM, V vlin...@gmail.com wrote: I created a graph model with 2 classes Node and Element as follows: public class Node { @RelatedTo(type = ELEMENT, elementClass = Element.class, direction = OUTGOING) private SetElement

Re: [Neo4j] Generating suggestions in a Neo4j db

2011-06-17 Thread Aman
Hi Jim, The way you mentioned, that will take care of these suggestions, thanks for the same. But here's a tougher problem If I have a database of 50k people, and I want to find friends based upon the places that those 50k people have visited (i.e. People who have visited same places as me

Re: [Neo4j] Generating suggestions in a Neo4j db

2011-06-17 Thread Aman
Hi Jim, The way you mentioned, that will take care of these suggestions, thanks for the same. But here's a tougher problem If I have a database of 50k people, and I want to find friends based upon the places that those 50k people have visited (i.e. People who have visited same places as me