Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice Still?

2014-08-06 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Paul, The fresh branch is stable enough for everyone to use. LibreOffice does not pilot planes, it does not usually crash, it does the job. There are people who want newer features and people who want more tested versions. There's food for everyone. Now: if you have ideas for new names, etc. you

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice Still?

2014-08-06 Thread Paul
On Wed, 6 Aug 2014 20:54:10 +0200 Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Paul, The fresh branch is stable enough for everyone to use. LibreOffice does not pilot planes, it does not usually crash, it does the job. There are people who want newer features and people

[libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice Still?

2014-08-06 Thread Pedro
Paul-6 wrote So for me first prize would be to have both branches as equal downloads on the LO download page. With a clear, concise explanation of what each offers, and a link to a slightly longer, fuller explanation. That is exactly what I am proposing should be done. But barring that, if

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice Still?

2014-08-06 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster
On 08/06/2014 10:31 AM, Sophie wrote: Hi, Le 06/08/2014 15:49, arakish a écrit : So, you do go through stages. You just misnomered them. Why not just use that? Stages: Alpha Beta Release Candidate Final Release Candidate (LO v4.3.0) Stable (LO v4.2.6) Please read this page to know more

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice Still?

2014-08-06 Thread jonathon
On 8/6/2014 10:55 AM, Paul wrote: But that doesn't change the fact that the concept of an LTS version has nothing to do with the business deals behind it. Yes, and no. As a general rule, Long Term Support is a direct function of business/corporate support. (Debian is probably the best known

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice Still?

2014-08-06 Thread jorge
Hi, good night all: As I understand there are some official versions. I think that could be better that The Document Foundation only has one version for all languages for production and makes its firsts efforts to solve all the most important bugs (This would be by user and programmer

[libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice - Base...

2014-08-06 Thread Alex Thurgood
Le 06/08/2014 08:08, David Love a écrit : Using LinuxMint v17.0 Qiana qith the MATE DE. I have Mint 17 Cinnamon Have followed with interest the recent discussins on Base and have decided to try and learn how to use it, using PostGreSQL as the backend. But - and there is always one of

[libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice Still?

2014-08-05 Thread arakish
It is of my opinion that you should stick with the standards. What is wrong with calling the newest possible stable version Release Candidate, the proven stable version Stable, the unstable beta-tester version Beta? It makes absolutely no sense to me to be different just for the sake of being

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice Still?

2014-08-05 Thread J. Van Brimmer
+1 On Aug 5, 2014 6:42 PM, arakish rmfrun...@gmail.com wrote: It is of my opinion that you should stick with the standards. What is wrong with calling the newest possible stable version Release Candidate, the proven stable version Stable, the unstable beta-tester version Beta? It makes

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice Still?

2014-08-05 Thread Florian Reisinger
Hi, The problem we have: We do not have one release branch as Firefox has, we have two... Users should use and find bugs on the Fresh version in order to make thee fresh, which will be renamed to stable after 6M. So how to say you can use the feature packed fresh? It is not an RC it is an

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice Still?

2014-08-05 Thread john herron
Thoroughly agree! +1 jdh On 08/06/2014 06:47 AM, J. Van Brimmer wrote: +1 On Aug 5, 2014 6:42 PM, arakish rmfrun...@gmail.com wrote: It is of my opinion that you should stick with the standards. What is wrong with calling the newest possible stable version Release Candidate, the proven

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice Still?

2014-08-05 Thread Pikov Andropov
Florian Reisinger wrote on 8/6/2014 1:22 AM: Hi, The problem we have: We do not have one release branch as Firefox has, we have two... Users should use and find bugs on the Fresh version in order to make thee fresh, which will be renamed to stable after 6M. So how to say you can use the

[libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice Still?

2014-08-02 Thread CVAlkan
I have to agree with NoOp on this. I've ended up being quite confused on some things whose definition was only available to the high priesthood who use forums that I would never normally be interested in (marketing certainly being one of them). -- View this message in context:

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice Still?

2014-08-01 Thread Sophie
Hi all, Le 01/08/2014 04:15, NoOp a écrit : On 07/31/2014 03:26 AM, Pedro wrote: The problem is that it is difficult to find a word that explains that one version is new (with new features/bugs/regressions) and the other one has been patched so that new features are already stable. If you

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice Still?

2014-08-01 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) It is really difficult to choose a name. Production is also not in common usage and might confuse people. It kinda implies factory-work or suggests that it might be something to do with coding to create LibreOffice. I've seen it used in a few geeky places but normal users (if such persons

[libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice Still?

2014-07-31 Thread Pedro
The problem is that it is difficult to find a word that explains that one version is new (with new features/bugs/regressions) and the other one has been patched so that new features are already stable. If you call Stable to the patched branch (and calling it Patched doesn't sound very nice

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice Still?

2014-07-31 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) It seems important to avoid terms that are familiar and in common usage in other projects. However maybe in the search for a better term we might find something that other projects would also find preferable. As a gateway application we often have to find answers to issues that other

[libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice Still?

2014-07-31 Thread NoOp
On 07/31/2014 03:26 AM, Pedro wrote: The problem is that it is difficult to find a word that explains that one version is new (with new features/bugs/regressions) and the other one has been patched so that new features are already stable. If you call Stable to the patched branch (and calling

[libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice Still?

2014-07-31 Thread NoOp
On 07/31/2014 03:35 AM, Tom Davies wrote: ... Doubtless such discussion is more effective on the Discussion mailing list. On this mailing list we just have to go along with whatever has been decided, or to use our own words to make it clearer what is meant. Actually it is pertinent to

[libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice Still?

2014-07-31 Thread Owen Genat
Pedro wrote The problem is that it is difficult to find a word that explains that one version is new (with new features/bugs/regressions) and the other one has been patched so that new features are already stable. Is this some sort of l10n/i18n issue? I ask because this problem has been solved

[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] OSCON: Conference wrap-up + big thanks to our volunteers!

2014-07-29 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) For others who missed the report about OSCON in Portland Oregon i'm forwarded the message sent to the marketing mailing lists Regards from Tom :) On 24 July 2014 17:43, Robinson Tryon bishop.robin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, OSCON -- the O'Reilly Open Source Convention -- wraps up

[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Lao Open Source Training on LibreOffice

2014-07-25 Thread mysith MSA
Anousak, Pls find closing  MC On Tuesday, July 22, 2014 5:47 PM, William Gathoye will...@gathoye.be wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Anousak! First of all congratulations! On 07/18/2014 12:03 PM, Anousak Souphavanh wrote: Attached are photos of the training. As

[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Kerala Legislative Assembly has moved to Free Software and Libreoffice

2014-07-23 Thread Redon Skikuli
Great news! Congrats to everyone that worked to make this happen. I shared this with the minister of innovation of Albania as a case study worth checking out (at least). Best, *---* *Redon Skikuli* *e-mail: **re...@skikuli.com re...@skikuli.com* * web: **www.skikuli.com http://www.skikuli.com*

[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Kerala Legislative Assembly has moved to Free Software and Libreoffice

2014-07-22 Thread Urmas
Jim Seymour: How do you get embezzlement of funds out of a story about a government body switching to open standards? By buying new computers from the suppliers giving the best kickbacks and dumping the astronomic sums of money into 'open source implementation' subcontractors, ending up

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Kerala Legislative Assembly has moved to Free Software and Libreoffice

2014-07-22 Thread Jim Seymour
On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 15:44:39 +0700 Urmas davian...@gmail.com wrote: Jim Seymour: How do you get embezzlement of funds out of a story about a government body switching to open standards? By buying new computers from the suppliers giving the best kickbacks and dumping the astronomic sums

[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Kerala Legislative Assembly has moved to Free Software and Libreoffice

2014-07-22 Thread Urmas
Jim Seymour: Nobody ever does that with commercial software, Vendors of commercial software control their partners. If there was nothing fishy we would have detailed reports, case studies and, which is more important, a comparison of costs of the chosen solution and competitors ones. Here?

[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Kerala Legislative Assembly has moved to Free Software and Libreoffice

2014-07-22 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) This is all pretty fantastic! Congrats to anyone involved. Please can we just drop all the threads that have an Urmas in them? Just ignore the obvious FUD and avoid engaging. If doing a migration with any kind of assessment of hardware requirements or with any advice from almost anyone

[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Kerala Legislative Assembly has moved to Free Software and Libreoffice

2014-07-21 Thread Urmas
Charles-H. Schulz: The migration process is implimented with the support of Zyxware Technologies[2] Another story of embezzling of funds veiled as 'free software migration.' But officially it was enthusiasts working 12/24 for food. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to:

[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Kerala Legislative Assembly has moved to Free Software and Libreoffice

2014-07-21 Thread Anivar Aravind
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 8:37 PM, Urmas davian...@gmail.com wrote: Charles-H. Schulz: The migration process is implimented with the support of Zyxware Technologies[2] Another story of embezzling of funds veiled as 'free software migration.' But officially it was enthusiasts working

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Kerala Legislative Assembly has moved to Free Software and Libreoffice

2014-07-21 Thread Jim Seymour
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 22:07:56 +0700 Urmas davian...@gmail.com wrote: Charles-H. Schulz: The migration process is implimented with the support of Zyxware Technologies[2] Another story of embezzling of funds veiled as 'free software migration.' How do you get embezzlement of funds out

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Kerala Legislative Assembly has moved to Free Software and Libreoffice

2014-07-21 Thread M Henri Day
2014-07-19 7:24 GMT+02:00 Anivar Aravind anivar.arav...@gmail.com: Best News report so far http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/news/states/kerala-legislature-announces-smooth-transition-to-free-software/article6224551.ece use this for sharing /case studies On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 1:44

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Kerala Legislative Assembly has moved to Free Software and Libreoffice

2014-07-21 Thread Paul
Pay no attention to Urmas, he's a known troll / MS shill, he's always coming out with antagonistic, and usually easily seen through, statements. On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 12:27:55 -0400 Jim Seymour jseym...@linxnet.com wrote: On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 22:07:56 +0700 Urmas davian...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Kerala Legislative Assembly has moved to Free Software and Libreoffice

2014-07-21 Thread Jim Seymour
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 20:16:24 +0200 Paul paulste...@afrihost.co.za wrote: Pay no attention to Urmas, he's a known troll / MS shill, he's always coming out with antagonistic, and usually easily seen through, statements. [snip] Been here since February. I know what Urmas is :) Regards, Jim --

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Kerala Legislative Assembly has moved to Free Software and Libreoffice

2014-07-21 Thread Paul
:) My bad, I meant to reply to Anivar's email, I assumed he didn't know what an Urmas was Paul On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 14:47:23 -0400 Jim Seymour jseym...@linxnet.com wrote: On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 20:16:24 +0200 Paul paulste...@afrihost.co.za wrote: Pay no attention to Urmas, he's a known

[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Lao Open Source Training on LibreOffice

2014-07-20 Thread Anousak Souphavanh
Hi Charles et al, Indeed it is an excellent timing and gpod collaboration the government to push it to couple of notches to the next level. Once my staff updated the Lao Open Source website, I will with all. Thanks Anousak On Jul 19, 2014 6:18 PM, Charles-H. Schulz

[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Lao Open Source Training on LibreOffice

2014-07-19 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello Anousak, Congrats! It is good to see you as active as ever since the old days of OpenOffice! Do you have a pointer we could share publicly? Best, Charles. On 18 juillet 2014 12:03:13 CEST, Anousak Souphavanh anou...@gmail.com wrote: Hi LibreOfficers, I am happy to share some news from

[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Kerala Legislative Assembly has moved to Free Software and Libreoffice

2014-07-18 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Thanks, just tweeted it! Best, Charles. On 18 juillet 2014 06:59:43 CEST, Anivar Aravind anivar.arav...@gmail.com wrote: Some news links in English from today's coverage

[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Kerala Legislative Assembly has moved to Free Software and Libreoffice

2014-07-18 Thread Anivar Aravind
A more detailed note by Zyxware is published on their Blog http://www.zyxware.com/articles/4358/zyxware-helps-kerala-state-legislative-assembly-move-to-free-software -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems?

[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Kerala Legislative Assembly has moved to Free Software and Libreoffice

2014-07-18 Thread Anousak Souphavanh
Well done and congrats for the efforrs you guys put in. Anousak Lao Open Source On Jul 18, 2014 1:52 PM, Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Thanks, just tweeted it! Best, Charles. On 18 juillet 2014 06:59:43 CEST, Anivar Aravind anivar.arav...@gmail.com

[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Kerala Legislative Assembly has moved to Free Software and Libreoffice

2014-07-18 Thread Anivar Aravind
Best News report so far http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/news/states/kerala-legislature-announces-smooth-transition-to-free-software/article6224551.ece use this for sharing /case studies On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Anivar Aravind anivar.arav...@gmail.com wrote: A more detailed note

[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Kerala Legislative Assembly has moved to Free Software and Libreoffice

2014-07-17 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Dear Nivar, Thanks a lot, great news; do you happen to have a pointer about these news in English? Best, Charles. Le 17.07.2014 10:28, Anivar Aravind a écrit : The Kerala Legislative Assembly[1] (Kerala state , India) as of July 17, 2014 produces all its documentation, both printed and

[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Kerala Legislative Assembly has moved to Free Software and Libreoffice

2014-07-17 Thread Anivar Aravind
On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Dear Nivar, Hi I am anivar Thanks a lot, great news; do you happen to have a pointer about these news in English? English Press is not carried the news yet. Hope some of them will carry it

[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Kerala Legislative Assembly has moved to Free Software and Libreoffice

2014-07-17 Thread Rajesh Ranjan
On Thursday, July 17, 2014 1:58 PM, Anivar Aravind anivar.arav...@gmail.com wrote: T he Kerala Legislative Assembly[1] (Kerala state , India) as of July 17, 2014 produces all its documentation, both printed and digital, on a Free Software platform using Libreoffice .  Hon. Speaker

[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Kerala Legislative Assembly has moved to Free Software and Libreoffice

2014-07-17 Thread Anivar Aravind
Some news links in English from today's coverage http://www.newindianexpress.com/cities/thiruvananthapuram/Software-Migration-ICFOSS-Hails-State-Govt/2014/07/18/article2335680.ece http://freepressjournal.in/kerala-assembly-migrates-to-free-software-platform/

[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANN] LIbreOffice 4.3.0 RC2 available

2014-07-03 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) This is the perfect one to grab and test out asap, especially if you have a pet-peeve that has been long-running. There are probably tons of bug-fixes including some really hefty ones. I think there are 'new' accessibility features (thanks to IBM and Apache) and less reliance on Java for

[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: ni podprto na drugih računalnikih/Not supported on other computers

2014-07-01 Thread Mark Bourne
For replies in Slovenian, try the mailing lists at: https://sl.libreoffice.org/po-pomoc/ To translate from English to Slovenian: https://translate.google.com/#en/sl/ Google Translate makes a bit more sense when spaces are put in after the full-stops in the original (Slovenian, according to

[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: EasyHack - Documentation/User Manual for New Features

2014-06-23 Thread Joel Madero
Hey Alex, Every other link I clicked in that list produces a 500 Internal Server Error. Most of the cases lacking documentation appear to be Calc functions. Writing documentation for them actually requires that we understand what it is that each function is supposed to do in the first

[libreoffice-users] Re: [Libreoffice-qa] 4.3 RC Bug Hunting Session

2014-06-16 Thread Joren DC
Bug Hunting Session is June 20, 21 and 22 :-). See you all by then! Kind regards, Joren Joel Madero schreef op 16/06/14 17:57: Hi All! Well after our incredible showing with Beta 1 we're going a second round of bug hunting against 4.3 Release Candidate 1 to try to catch any lingering nasty

[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Pagination Problem

2014-06-03 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Can anyone here help Susanne? If you scroll down to Peter's/Peewee's answer you might be able to see where he was going with it and might be able to help clarify what he meant. It's all a bit beyond me :(( Regards from Tom :) On 3 June 2014 16:48, Susanne Engel

[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Conveying the language of document text

2014-05-05 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) A post to the Accessibility| mailing list has has no responses for a few days. I am not sure how to handle it. Accessibility is about screen-readers and such like. A recent code donation from Apache is in the process of radically changing the way LO handles accessibility issues by

[libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice Base Runtime File

2014-04-27 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 27/04/14 03:07, tb a écrit : Does LibreOffice Base have a runtime file that would enable me to distribute an application to users who do not have the full version of Base installed on their computers? No. You need a complete LO installation. Alex -- To unsubscribe e-mail to:

[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice Magazine 10

2014-04-24 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Every time the Brazilian Team releases their magazine a lot of people say it should be translated into English and other languages. It's fantastic and all put together in Draw. Sadly there are just not enough translators! :( However, even though the magazine is all in Portuguese (Br) it

[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Volunteer to maintain @AskLibreOffice twitter account

2014-04-24 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) If you have had any experience with twitter and would like to gain more skills in it then an opportunity has arisen to help maintain the LibreOffice Twitter account. Regards from Tom :) On 24 April 2014 17:47, Zeki Bildirici zeki.ozguryazi...@gmail.com wrote: 15 Nis 2014 20:00 tarihinde

[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Manuals in ePub format?

2014-04-22 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I thought people here might be interested in how the ePub guides are going. Comments are probably best sent to the Documentation Team at this stage. Private comments seem to have worked well previously but the guides have moved on a bit now. Regards from Tom :) On 22 April 2014 20:30,

[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Manuals in ePub format?

2014-04-12 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I wondered if anyone here is able to view ePub files? If so you might be interested in viewing one of our Published Guides and hopefully give the Docs Team, or just me or Peter some feedback on any problems or other issues you notice. Note that Peter did the work on this guide and has also

[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Manuals in ePub format?

2014-04-12 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Blimey! The docs team already gave some feedback and Peter Schofield has already produced a 2nd draft as a result! https://www.dropbox.com/s/adwaebcgmvymp8o/calibre%20test%20chapter%20-%20Peter%20Schofield.epub This one is probably better to give feedback on Thanks and regards from Tom :)

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Manuals in ePub format?

2014-04-12 Thread Jacqueline Tarleton
Viewed epub using samsung s4. Do I respond here or to the team? On Apr 12, 2014 10:37 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) Blimey! The docs team already gave some feedback and Peter Schofield has already produced a 2nd draft as a result!

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Manuals in ePub format?

2014-04-12 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) To the Docs Team would be best but it's an imperfect world so feel free to comment here or to me or PeeWee. Regards from Tom :) On 12 April 2014 20:13, Jacqueline Tarleton jacqueline.tarle...@gmail.comwrote: Viewed epub using samsung s4. Do I respond here or to the team? On Apr 12, 2014

[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: Re: Untranslated strings in Labels and Business Cards dialog

2014-04-02 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) A few days ago i asked if anyone here was good at administrative work and wanted to give more time to LibreOffice. As it turns out there is already 1 person working on the list of labels. Also feedback suggested that some people still record on tape-cassettes rather than usb or Cd/Dvd and

[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-users] 离岸,公司注册R离岸,公司年审

2014-03-25 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I tried translating it using a Machine Translator but just got an apparently random jumble of meaningless phrases. Looked like spam to me so i have avoided responding to the original poster so that they don't find out this is a valid email address and then deluge us with more spam. Regards

[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Document Freedom Day - March 26th

2014-03-22 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Talking of file formats ... Regards from Tom :) On 22 March 2014 10:20, Robinson Tryon bishop.robin...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 2:44 AM, Immanuel Giulea giulea.imman...@gmail.com wrote: Hanover, NH is within driving range for me from Montreal. Updated blurb (now with

[libreoffice-users] RE: [LibreOffice-users] stop automatic scrolling

2014-03-21 Thread Dan Hall
I too have seen this a couple of times lately. I don't remember what I was doing though. Windows 7, 64 bit. I have LibreOffice installed but very rarely use it. I use Outlook 2003 (MS Office 2003) for my email. I bought a new computer in May of 2012 with LibreOffice 3.5 installed. The spell

[libreoffice-users] Re: Libreoffice and ipad?

2014-03-06 Thread PeeWee
Hello I have thought about LO on an iPad, having recently purchased an iPad Mini, but I think a full office suite would be overkill. To me the alternative is to use Apple's own Pages, Keynote and Numbers for any office work. The only problem there is that LO format is incompatible with Pages,

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: The Document Foundation's response to Her Majesty's Government...

2014-03-05 Thread Paul
Do you think [OOXML] stands a chance with its incompatible changes between [each version], or [standardisation / xsd:boolean] fiasco? Or the lack of documentation and a heap of undocumented extensions [MSO] uses? There, fixed that for you. On Wed, 5 Mar 2014 09:31:06 +0700 Urmas

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: The Document Foundation's response to Her Majesty's Government...

2014-03-05 Thread Jim Seymour
On Wed, 5 Mar 2014 09:31:06 +0700 Urmas davian...@gmail.com wrote: Tom Davies: Do you think ODF stands a chance with its incompatible changes between 1.0 and 1.1, or formulas fiasco? Or the lack of documentation and a heap of undocumented extensions AOO/LO uses? Do you think .doc[x]

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: The Document Foundation's response to Her Majesty's Government...

2014-03-05 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Quite. It was only older versions of MS Office that had problems reading formulae. Everyone else was easily able to correctly implement the 800 page specification as set as an ISO standard. The 11,000 page OOXML ISO standard doesn't appear to have been correctly implemented by anyone,

[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] How to return accessible LibreOffice ? (Beginner)

2014-03-05 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Christophe suggested using tagged Pdf which seems obvious with hindsight (as so many really good answers often do) Regard from Tom :) On 5 March 2014 10:16, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi :) Can anyone here help this university with advice on how to set-up their system? Would

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: The Document Foundation's response to Her Majesty's Government...

2014-03-05 Thread Virgil Arrington
Jim, I just have to ask. Are you the same Jim Seymour who used to do battle with John Dvorak in the PC magazines? Virgil On 3/5/2014 7:50 AM, Jim Seymour wrote: On Wed, 5 Mar 2014 09:31:06 +0700 Urmas davian...@gmail.com wrote: Tom Davies: Do you think ODF stands a chance with its

This isn't the droid you're looking for (was: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: The Document Foundation's response to Her Majesty's Government...)

2014-03-05 Thread Jim Seymour
On Wed, 5 Mar 2014 10:42:20 -0500 Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com wrote: Jim, I just have to ask. Are you the same Jim Seymour who used to do battle with John Dvorak in the PC magazines? [snip] Been quite a few years since I got this question. That could be only if I was emailing

[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: The Document Foundation's response to Her Majesty's Government...

2014-03-05 Thread Urmas
Jim Seymour: proprietary software Irrelevant. having the propensity to re-write existing documents into formats incompatible with older versions [1]; Impossible. gratuitously wildly divergent user interfaces Document formats cannot have UI. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to:

[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] How to return accessible LibreOffice ? (Beginner)

2014-03-05 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Can anyone here help this university with advice on how to set-up their system? Would screen readers be better than braille? There are a lot of programs that can read aloud the words and things that appear on the screen. Braille devices are probably a lot rarer. Regards from Tom :) On

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: The Document Foundation's response to Her Majesty's Government consultation on document formats

2014-03-04 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Wow, just found this link if the BoD are only just starting to get involved with this http://standards.data.gov.uk/how-you-can-get-involved-each-phase Personally i suspect that they were the ones that originally made several of us aware of this whole proposal so i suspect they ARE on the

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: The Document Foundation's response to Her Majesty's Government consultation on document formats

2014-03-04 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) What worries me now is that the next stage of the process appears to be that after seeking thoughts from the general populace they then put it through a panel of 'experts'. Who chooses these experts and on what basis? (that was a rhetorical question) So, now i can see why MS made so

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: The Document Foundation's response to Her Majesty's Government consultation on document formats

2014-03-04 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Thanks Dr Som :) I wish i had realised i could edit my own posts earlier so that when i cringed at some of my own grammar i could have fixed it on the spot. Also it might have been good to proof-read others and maybe get others to proof-read mine. My one that appeared just after the

[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: The Document Foundation's response to Her Majesty's Government...

2014-03-04 Thread Urmas
Tom Davies: Do you think ODF stands a chance with its incompatible changes between 1.0 and 1.1, or formulas fiasco? Or the lack of documentation and a heap of undocumented extensions AOO/LO uses? -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems?

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: The Document Foundation's response to Her Majesty's Government...

2014-03-04 Thread pete nikolic
On Wed, 5 Mar 2014 09:31:06 +0700 Urmas davian...@gmail.com wrote: Tom Davies: Do you think ODF stands a chance with its incompatible changes between 1.0 and 1.1, or formulas fiasco? Or the lack of documentation and a heap of undocumented extensions AOO/LO uses? Still being paid

[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: The Document Foundation's response to Her Majesty's Government consultation on document formats

2014-03-02 Thread Tom Davies
HI :) +1 I can't believe i hadn't said that earlier!! It was a great press release :)) Almost all the comments, around 80-90% were extremely pro-ODF and almost all of those were also anti-OOXML. The 10-20% pro-OOXML comments almost entirely conceded that ODF should be used but that OOXML should

[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started, Chapters 1 through 5

2014-03-02 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) The documentation team have a specific task that almost anyone can help with. Their mailing list is very low traffic, especially compared against this one! If you think you have the patience and the skills for working in documentation, or if you just want to see if you can score on some of

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: The Document Foundation's response to Her Majesty's Government consultation on document formats

2014-03-02 Thread som
I can't believe i hadn't said that earlier!!  It was a great press release :)) totally agree A few comments pointed out that Google-docs doesn't use ODF.  However Google themselves posted there own statement saying that they support this proposal to use ODF. actually that is partial

[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] How to enable focus caret tracking with Gnome magnifier

2014-03-01 Thread Niklas Johansson
Hi Bas Do you have Gnome Magnifier running when you start LibreOffice? If I'm not mistaken LibreOffice checks if there are any accessibility applications running when it starts up. If it finds any then it starts sending accessibility events otherwise it does not. On Feodora you should not have

[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] How to enable focus caret tracking with Gnome magnifier

2014-03-01 Thread Bas Cancrinus
Hi Tom, Unfortunately I haven't. I appreciate any help with this issue very much! Cheers, Bas Op 27 feb. 2014 om 22:51 heeft Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com het volgende geschreven: Hi :) Sorry for the lack of responses! Have you managed to fix this issue yet? Apologies and regards from

[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] How to enable focus caret tracking with Gnome magnifier

2014-02-27 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Sorry for the lack of responses! Have you managed to fix this issue yet? Apologies and regards from Tom :) On 26 February 2014 10:57, Bas Cancrinus b...@cloud64.nl wrote: Hi, I'm on Fedora 20 and I'm trying to get focus caret tracking with the Gnome magnifier. The magnifier doesn't

[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] SCALE 12x .... and beyond

2014-02-27 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I'm not sure if this article is in the blogs yet but i thought some people here might be interested in how Scale went this year. I was a bit baffled about the man-turns-into-a-horse issue but hopefully that's been resolved with a suitable beverage Regards from Tom :) On 26 February 2014

[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice Magazine 9 released

2014-02-26 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I am not sure how many here would benefit from this but the Brqazilian Community produce a regular newsletter. LibreOffice uptake in Brasil is considerably higher than the 20% in most of Europe which is, in turn, much higher than England and the US. Regards from Tom :) On 25 February

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 'deployment'

2014-02-26 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Sorry no-one has replied yet! I'm not sure if any of these guides help https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Other_Documentation_and_Resources#Corporate_Users In Windows there is some sort of xcu file or registry entry or something that you might be able to use. Mostly it

[libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 'deployment'

2014-02-24 Thread IOmazic
Hi, can we go back to topic... Personally I don't care if I am pointed to LO or OO if solution that I get there is working. My working case is around 450 workstations, we are using K1000 for deployment of apps and scripts and managing workstations. My problem is how to deliver version that

[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Changes in the LO 4.3-dev start screen, intentilnal or bug?

2014-02-18 Thread Marco Zehe
Hi Tom, yeah, my posting to the accessibility list was totally intentional, since this was a question specifically related to the interaction of LibreOffice with screen readers for the blind. There may not be a visual difference between the 4.2 and 4.3.0 dev builds of this initial LibreOffice

[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Has anyone seem this 4.0 article, yet?

2014-02-18 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
I think Italo keeps track of this. And yes very nice article it is encouraging to do even better :-) Best, Charles. Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com a écrit : I just received an e-newsletter that referred to this article. nice looking small article with a slide show. It

[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Cross-platform(?) spell-check bug

2014-02-18 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Another one from the Accessibility mailing list. Regards from Tom :) On 18 February 2014 14:42, Joanmarie Diggs jdi...@igalia.com wrote: Hey all. Any Windows screen-readers users able to use the LibreOffice spell checker? https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74242 If you're

[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Changes in the LO 4.3-dev start screen, intentilnal or bug?

2014-02-18 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I am not even sure how to check on this but has anyone else tried running the 4.3.0 pre-beta-test release and able to see if there is a dialogue in the right place? Errr, Marco posted this to the Accessibility list so please make sure he is cc'd (or in the To field) into all replies! Thanks

[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] how many languages can LO support at the same time. . .

2014-02-16 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi *, On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 4:52 AM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: The problem I have with selling LO to computer centers, both regular and ones that teach English as a second language, is how many languages can LO support at the same time. The limit is only the

[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] how many languages can LO support at the same time. . .

2014-02-16 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi *, On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Christian Lohmaier lohmaier+libreoff...@googlemail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 4:52 AM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: The language of text is part of the character properties and is inherited the usual way: direct

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 'deployment'

2014-02-06 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I used to like the Netscape email client. After it went into Firefox and then shoved into Seamonkey it seemed to lose lots of what i felt made it so powerful. Many times after sending an email Netscape allowed me to delete it from the other person's server. I've heard that a lot of people

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 'deployment'

2014-02-05 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster
On 02/05/2014 02:38 AM, Marcello Romani wrote: Il 03/02/2014 17:47, Kracked_P_P---webmaster ha scritto: On 02/03/2014 08:48 AM, Marcello Romani wrote: Il 03/02/2014 13:21, IOmazic ha scritto: Hi, is it possible that you share this tools for windows? I will need to install it to around 450

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 'deployment'

2014-02-05 Thread Marcello Romani
For the record, I've been a happy user of soffice even before the 1.0 release (I started being happy right after they dictched that awful desktop-over-desktop Start Office thing ;-) Even before LO existed I pushed OO over MSO in the company where I work (I'm the IT manager). I even introduced

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 'deployment'

2014-02-05 Thread Jonathon
On February 5, 2014 1:53:59 AM PST, Kracked_P_P wrote: both packages has the same roots OOo to LO and OOo to AOO, but we are now different packages and offer different GUI styles and options, plus our base coding has been changed and may not be reflected in AOO's base coding. Given the

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 'deployment'

2014-02-05 Thread e-letter
On 05/02/2014, Marcello Romani mrom...@ottotecnica.com wrote: For the record, I've been a happy user of soffice even before the 1.0 release (I started being happy right after they dictched that awful desktop-over-desktop Start Office thing ;-) I miss that! :) And starmail too... -- To

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 'deployment'

2014-02-05 Thread Marcello Romani
Il 05/02/2014 21:48, e-letter ha scritto: On 05/02/2014, Marcello Romani mrom...@ottotecnica.com wrote: For the record, I've been a happy user of soffice even before the 1.0 release (I started being happy right after they dictched that awful desktop-over-desktop Start Office thing ;-) I miss

[libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 'deployment'

2014-02-04 Thread Marcello Romani
Il 03/02/2014 17:47, Kracked_P_P---webmaster ha scritto: On 02/03/2014 08:48 AM, Marcello Romani wrote: Il 03/02/2014 13:21, IOmazic ha scritto: Hi, is it possible that you share this tools for windows? I will need to install it to around 450 pc, so it will be cool to have some tool to do all

[libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 'deployment'

2014-02-03 Thread IOmazic
Hi, is it possible that you share this tools for windows? I will need to install it to around 450 pc, so it will be cool to have some tool to do all modification needed. Kind regards, Ivan Omazic - Ivan Omazic IT Assistant / Technical Lead ioma...@wmo.int +41 22 730 81 55 +41 79 918

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