Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer tutorial ready for upload

2011-04-27 Thread Eliezer Croitoru

On 26/04/2011 15:38, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:


On 04/25/2011 09:54 PM, David Nelson wrote:

Hi, :-)

On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 05:40, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions
webmas...@krackedpress.com  wrote:
I would not mind getting this tutorial emailed to me - off the list 
- at

webmas...@krackedpress.com

I am not on thew documentation list[s].

Feel free to sign up for the list... You can download *all* available
documentation content (including stuff that's still in the pipeline
and not yet published) from the LibreOffice Alfresco platform at
http://alfresco.libreoffice.org or
http://documentation.libreoffice.org


David Nelson


Exactly what is an Alfresco account?  Why would you need to have one?

As for the Documentation List[s], I am already on 4 lists already.  
Also, I do not know if I will ever contribute to the 
creation/modification of any LibreOffice documentation, due to my 
brain injuries.  Clear communication can be a problem at times when I 
deal with typing text.  Three strokes will do that to a person.


As for the documentation out there, I have the latest versions of the 
two available guides;  Getting Started and Writer.  Or at least the 
ones I find at http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/; 
and the WIKI page for documentation.  The LibreOffice-NA.US 
http://libreoffice-na.us/ site is the testing platform for the 
LibreOffice North American Community DVD Project.  Our group is 
creating DVDs that will service the needs of the following 
communities;  Canadian, US-American, Mexican, and Latin American, 
including the Hispanic communities.  Currently we have our English 
DVDs 99% ready for publication and are working on the Spanish language 
version [first draft is 50% +/- done] for those DVDs.  The big 
advantage with our DVDs is the extras.  These include as much 
documentation as we can find.  Look at this link to see what we 
currently have for English; 
http://libreoffice-na.us/English/documentation.html


What we really need now is Spanish language documentation, even if it 
is just the Getting-Started guide.  Also we could use Spanish language 
extensions/add-ons plus sample files.  Right now there is a big void 
in the Spanish language area of documentation, extensions, templates, 
artwork, and sample files.  THEN we have to do it all over with our 
French DVDs, that are needed for French-Canada.


So the question is what is the advantage of an Alfresco account and 
being on the documentation list[s]?  I am on the Projects list[s], the 
International Marketing list, the US Marketing list, and the User's 
list.  Would I really need to be on another one if I will not be able 
to contribute/create/modify the document files?




and what about a video documentation?
i think that there are people on the community that would like to try 
doing video learning  videos and not a youtube kind of but

a more official ones.

Eliezer

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Always using default printer for a text template

2011-04-27 Thread support

Le 05/04/2011 11:12, Brad Rogers a écrit :

I can't test this here, (one computer, one printer) but an educated
guess would lead me to test this by removing the defined printer from the
template you have.  Then, with nothing to instruct otherwise, printing
should be sent to the default printer as defined on that particular
machine.

It would be nice, but how can we achive this ?
The user interface does not allow to select a blank printer.
Should we unzip the odt file and remove the printer name by hand in the 
XML file ?


Andy Brown a...@the-martin-byrd.net wrote:

Try Tools-  Options-  Load/Save-  General  uncheck the two boxes under
Load .


We cannot change global parameters in Tools- Options- Load/Save- 
General because for some templates  we need the printer parameters, but 
not for all.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc and datapilot

2011-04-27 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi,

JZ1982 wrote (23-04-11 23:43)

First of all I'm new to LibreOffice and i'm kind of a numbskull if it comes
to the more advanced options within this software.

What I'm trying to achieve is the following, I've got data consisting of
code date text value which I keep journalizing. I want to manipulate
this data in a different sheet in a manner that I want the whole rows parsed
to the different sheet depending on which code and date I'm looking for.

See the following picture:

[IMG]http://i54.tinypic.com/20ubpdt.jpg[/IMG]

I've been toying aroudn with DataPilot now for quite some time and I can
sort nicely on code but I fail to parse entire rows like I want to.


Getting the result as on the right side of your picture, can easily be 
done with the default filter.

  Data  Filter  Default
Then filter on code 402 and copy/paste the result to a different place, 
when needed.


Hmm, but is it this what you want to achieve?


Kind regards,
Cor

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Calc and datapilot

2011-04-27 Thread JZ1982
Hi Cor,

Though with a copy paste I could get it easily done I would like to get it 
updated automatically. As my journal keeps growing it would require me to 
regulary filter and copy/paste. Also I would like todo it on other codes. 

Kind regards,



JZ
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Subject: Re: Calc and datapilot



Hi,

JZ1982 wrote (23-04-11 23:43)
 First of all I'm new to LibreOffice and i'm kind of a numbskull if it comes
 to the more advanced options within this software.

 What I'm trying to achieve is the following, I've got data consisting of
 code date text value which I keep journalizing. I want to manipulate
 this data in a different sheet in a manner that I want the whole rows parsed
 to the different sheet depending on which code and date I'm looking for.

 See the following picture:

 [IMG]http://i54.tinypic.com/20ubpdt.jpg[/IMG]

 I've been toying aroudn with DataPilot now for quite some time and I can
 sort nicely on code but I fail to parse entire rows like I want to.

Getting the result as on the right side of your picture, can easily be 
done with the default filter.
   Data  Filter  Default
Then filter on code 402 and copy/paste the result to a different place, 
when needed.

Hmm, but is it this what you want to achieve?


Kind regards,
Cor

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc and datapilot

2011-04-27 Thread Simon Cropper

On 27/04/11 18:18, Cor Nouws wrote:

Hi,

JZ1982 wrote (23-04-11 23:43)

First of all I'm new to LibreOffice and i'm kind of a numbskull if it
comes
to the more advanced options within this software.

What I'm trying to achieve is the following, I've got data consisting of
code date text value which I keep journalizing. I want to
manipulate
this data in a different sheet in a manner that I want the whole rows
parsed
to the different sheet depending on which code and date I'm
looking for.

See the following picture:

[IMG]http://i54.tinypic.com/20ubpdt.jpg[/IMG]

I've been toying aroudn with DataPilot now for quite some time and I can
sort nicely on code but I fail to parse entire rows like I want to.


Getting the result as on the right side of your picture, can easily be
done with the default filter.
Data  Filter  Default
Then filter on code 402 and copy/paste the result to a different place,
when needed.

Hmm, but is it this what you want to achieve?


Kind regards,
Cor



Hi,

I don't think you can use Calc in the way you invision.

Some options exist...

1. Create a macro that sorts the list. This is not dynamic.
2. Create a duplicate of the sheet containing the core data. Use VLOOKUP 
to dynamically duplicate the sheet. Then create a filter on each 
duplicate sheet. Each duplicate sheet is filtered based on a particular 
'volgnummer'. Usually I put this value at the top of the file as a 
header. This works really well with small to medium datsets but can be 
slow with larger datasets.
3. For larger datasets consider storing in a database then use Base to 
import just the 'code' lines you want to each sheet. This is a bit more 
complicated and less portable, depending on the database used.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Always using default printer for a text template

2011-04-27 Thread Cor Nouws

support wrote (27-04-11 09:25)

Le 05/04/2011 11:12, Brad Rogers a écrit :

I can't test this here, (one computer, one printer) but an educated
guess would lead me to test this by removing the defined printer from the
template you have. Then, with nothing to instruct otherwise, printing
should be sent to the default printer as defined on that particular
machine.

It would be nice, but how can we achive this ?
The user interface does not allow to select a blank printer.


You can do something with macro's. Not too complicated.


Should we unzip the odt file and remove the printer name by hand in the
XML file ?


Nice idea. Never tried it, but should be simple to test.


Andy Brown a...@the-martin-byrd.net wrote:

Try Tools- Options- Load/Save- General uncheck the two boxes under
Load .


We cannot change global parameters in Tools- Options- Load/Save-
General because for some templates we need the printer parameters, but
not for all.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Always using default printer for a text template

2011-04-27 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 09:25:48 +0200
support supp...@batpro.com wrote:

Hello support,

 It would be nice, but how can we achive this ?
 The user interface does not allow to select a blank printer.

Aren't there two printers listed?  From what you say here, it seems
not.  I thought that both the local and remote one would be listed.

 Should we unzip the odt file and remove the printer name by hand in
 the XML file ?

You could try, but make sure you keep a backup, just in case everything
goes horribly wrong.

Another option comes to mind - With the template loaded, change the
printer to be used via the standard print dialog, then do a 
File-Templates-Save, using a different name for the template.  For
example; MyTemplate_LocalPrinter instead of MyTemplate_RemotePrinter.

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Base Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc and datapilot

2011-04-27 Thread Tom Davies






From: Simon Cropper scrop...@botanicusaustralia.com.au
To: users@libreoffice.org
Sent: Wed, 27 April, 2011 11:00:22
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc and datapilot

On 27/04/11 18:18, Cor Nouws wrote:
 Hi,
 
 JZ1982 wrote (23-04-11 23:43)
 First of all I'm new to LibreOffice and i'm kind of a numbskull if it
 comes
 to the more advanced options within this software.
 
 What I'm trying to achieve is the following, I've got data consisting of
 code date text value which I keep journalizing. I want to
 manipulate
 this data in a different sheet in a manner that I want the whole rows
 parsed
 to the different sheet depending on which code and date I'm
 looking for.
 
 See the following picture:
 
 [IMG]http://i54.tinypic.com/20ubpdt.jpg[/IMG]
 
 I've been toying aroudn with DataPilot now for quite some time and I can
 sort nicely on code but I fail to parse entire rows like I want to.
 
 Getting the result as on the right side of your picture, can easily be
 done with the default filter.
 Data  Filter  Default
 Then filter on code 402 and copy/paste the result to a different place,
 when needed.
 
 Hmm, but is it this what you want to achieve?
 
 
 Kind regards,
 Cor
 

Hi,

I don't think you can use Calc in the way you invision.

Some options exist...

1. Create a macro that sorts the list. This is not dynamic.
2. Create a duplicate of the sheet containing the core data. Use VLOOKUP to 
dynamically duplicate the sheet. Then create a filter on each duplicate sheet. 
Each duplicate sheet is filtered based on a particular 'volgnummer'. Usually I 
put this value at the top of the file as a header. This works really well with 
small to medium datsets but can be slow with larger datasets.
3. For larger datasets consider storing in a database then use Base to import 
just the 'code' lines you want to each sheet. This is a bit more complicated 
and 
less portable, depending on the database used.

Cheers Simon


Hi,
I recommend using Base for this.  You are really trying to use Calc as a 
database; square-peg, round-hole.  Proper database programs pull off this type 
of report really easily and it's even difficult to stop it producing things 
like 
this.  With Calc (or any other spreadsheet program) you will get into all sorts 
complicated expressions that may or may not be compatible with other programs.  
Take the easier route and use Base even if the table is quite small at this 
stage.

Base seems to prefer to have external tables to work from and can read the Calc 
spreadsheet as a table so all the programs will be happy to work with what you 
have already.  Access (the MS database program) can also use external tables 
but 
Base is likely to be better.  


Sadly we don't have many database experts in LibreOffice at the moment (unless 
thousands joined while in was on the boat) but the OpenOffice forums seem happy 
to deal with any questions.  Just say Base 3.3.2 or whatever rather than 
creating an issue about whether it is OOo or LO.  The version numbers give a 
good clue to the right people without their bosses being any the wiser.

Good luck and regards from
Tom :)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Always using default printer for a text template

2011-04-27 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi,
support schrieb:

Hello,
Is there a mean to force the use of the default printer ?
We have a single template (.ott file) used on several different
computers, each one having a different default printer.
When we use the template, it defaults to print on the printer defined in
the template, but we need that it prints on the printer defined as
default printer on the computer.
Is there a mean to do this ?


You can set the clients to not use the printer settings of the 
documents. You find this in Tools - Options - Load/Sava - General - 
Section Load - second item.


Kind regards
Regina

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[libreoffice-users] what fonts are included?

2011-04-27 Thread Howard Helsinger
Is there a list of the fonts that ship
with the standardLibreOffice install?Can someone direct me to
it?
Howard Helsinger -- Wary Puppy 5.10


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Re: [libreoffice-users] -convert-to command line option on Windows

2011-04-27 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)

Have there been any good answers about this yet?  I was wondering if it was an 
OS specific problem with the Windows version but have not yet tried this 
command-line method with Ubuntu.  Did it used to work in OpenOffice?  If so 
then 
it really 'should' work with LibreOffice.  I doubt it's OS-specific but i just 
wondered if other people do this sort of thing?
Regards from
Tom :)






From: keeper jon...@xmission.com
To: users@libreoffice.org
Sent: Tue, 26 April, 2011 17:48:26
Subject: [libreoffice-users] -convert-to command line option on Windows

I'm attempting to use the -convert-to command line option to convert files
between formats without using LibreOffice's GUI.  I'm using LibreOffice
Portable on Windows XP.  Here's an example command:

LibreOfficePortable.exe -headless -convert-to pdf untitled.odt

The command executes silently (returning no output of any sort), but doesn't
appear to create an output file.

I've tried the command from both the Windows command line and from MSYS.
I've also tried several other variants (such as calling soffice.exe
directly) with the same result.

Has anyone had success with this operation?  I'm not sure whether results
may differ between vanilla LibreOffice and LibreOffice Portable, so I have
also posted this question under LibreOffice Portable's list.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: -convert-to command line option on Windows

2011-04-27 Thread plino
There is no problem with this function if you use the installed LibreOffice.

The problem is that you are passing the parameters to the PortableApps
executable which is probably not passing it correctly to soffice.exe

So, if you intend to use the Portable LOffice you need to report this to
whoever is creating the portable version ;)

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[libreoffice-users] Unsubscribe me you bastards

2011-04-27 Thread Fareast friend
Unsubscribe me you bastards

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[libreoffice-users] users@libreoffice.org

2011-04-27 Thread Fareast friend
users+confunsub-3bac489e36ac5826-fareastfriend=gmail@libreoffice.org

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Unsubscribe me you bastards

2011-04-27 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Please send a blank email to

users+h...@libreoffice.org

Note that the users+ bit at the beginning is crucial but on many email 
systems 
will appear to be nothing to do with the address.  Then you 'should' get a 
reply 
that shows you how to un-subscribe yourself.  It's not easy to unsubscribe 
someone else.  You are the person that needs to do this really.

Good luck and regards from
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Subject: [libreoffice-users] Unsubscribe me you bastards

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[libreoffice-users] RE: -convert-to command line option on Windows

2011-04-27 Thread keeper
A Google search will give some discussion of use of this option.  For one
example, try 
http://muthusuba.blogspot.com/2011/03/so-called-hidden-features-of.html this
blog entry .

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Re: [libreoffice-users] users+confunsub-3bac489e36ac5826-fareastfriend=gmail....@libreoffice.org

2011-04-27 Thread Tom Davies
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[libreoffice-users] LibO 3.4.0 b2 - Calc - colour of negative numbers

2011-04-27 Thread Guy Voets
Hi,

I have the 3.4 beta2 installed on my Mac.
In LibO 3.3.2, I can choose the colour of negative numbers by changing
the colour name between [ ] in the format code (Format  Cells 
Numbers). #.##0,00;[RED]-#.##0,00
Because of the background, I changed the colour to [WHITE] instead of
the default [RED].

When I open the same spreadsheet in LibO 3.4.0 b2, the colour returns
to red, but the format code doesn't include the [RED] indication.
#.##0,00;-#.##0,00
In fact, all the columns that I changed to white, are now red when the
numbers are negative. I have to redefine all the columns concerned, in
all the sheets of the file.

The colour code seems to be absent from the 3.4 b2 version.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] users+confunsub-3bac489e36ac5826-fareastfriend=gmail....@libreoffice.org

2011-04-27 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)

I have seen a number of emails sent to 

users@libreoffice.org

with a variety of things in the subject-line or in the email itself.  The 
users@libreoffice.org address is the address that emails will be sent to if 
you just hit reply to any email that arrives from this list.  You need to edit 
the To: field which is about 3 boxes up from the subject-line and change from 
users@libreoffice.org to 


users+h...@libreoffice.org


Note that is users+help before the @ symbol, not just help and not just 
users.  Please try users+help
Good luck and regards from
Tom :)





From: Debi Taber dta...@medinaco.org
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Sent: Wed, 27 April, 2011 15:41:10
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] 
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On 04/27/2011 10:35 AM, Fareast friend wrote:
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 Kindly advise of the way to unsubs from all of libreoffice forumns or
 whatever. It is of no help at all.
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] what fonts are included?

2011-04-27 Thread Guy Voets
2011/4/27 Howard Helsinger hhelsin...@gmail.com:
 Is there a list of the fonts that ship
 with the standardLibreOffice install?Can someone direct me to
 it?
 Howard Helsinger -- Wary Puppy 5.10

I'd say the fonts come with your computer and its printer(s), but you
can also install other fonts...
my 2 ¢

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Re: [libreoffice-users] what fonts are included?

2011-04-27 Thread Howard Helsinger
I asked because there was a hand printed font I liked (name forgotten) which
disappeared when I cleaned out all the Asian language fonts I don't need.
Now I can't find that font -- name began with a P.   Sort of an
architectural font.

On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Guy Voets nimant...@gmail.com wrote:

 2011/4/27 Howard Helsinger hhelsin...@gmail.com:
  Is there a list of the fonts that ship
  with the standardLibreOffice install?Can someone direct me to
  it?
  Howard Helsinger -- Wary Puppy 5.10

 I'd say the fonts come with your computer and its printer(s), but you
 can also install other fonts...
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Re: [libreoffice-users] users+confunsub-3bac489e36ac5826-fareastfriend=gmail....@libreoffice.org

2011-04-27 Thread Sigrid Carrera
Hello Debi, Fareast friend, *, 


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Re: [libreoffice-users] BUG: crash on exit (3.4b2)

2011-04-27 Thread Trever L. Adams
On 04/26/2011 01:01 PM, Manfred J. Krause wrote:

 Yes.
 Please have a look at
 Bug 36301 - Crash on exit from LibreOffice
 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36301
 Status: RESOLVED FIXED
 Fixed in LibO 3.4 beta 3 (available by the end of the week)

 mjk
I am not sure this does describe my problem as I am able to save files.
I will try beta 3 when available. I hope it is fixed. This seems like
LibreOffice is going to be very wonderful. (This is my first experience
with it due to the problems with folder redirection that has been fixed
now.)

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[libreoffice-users] Download and International-sites buttons crash Firefox and Safari

2011-04-27 Thread Peter Teeson
Hi fromToronto, Canada:

I am on a Mac Pro running OS X 10.6.6 and have been using OO.
Because of Oracle's announcement I decided to took into libreoffice.

Using either Firefox or Safari when I press either of those two buttons the 
browsers crash.
Typing   //www.libreoffice.org/download directly in the address field gives me 
a 404 page.
This is 100% reproducible.
I went on IRC and spoke with Sophi who suggested this be escaleted to the 
mirror group since that might be hte issue.
Sophi gave me the direct server page and that works just fine.

As a retired Mac developer and am willing to try and help diagnose. 
(and maybe later help in other ways once I've had a chance to see the tasks.)

respect

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[libreoffice-users] Numbering in contents but not body

2011-04-27 Thread todd rme
Hi, is there a way to have a heading that is numbered in the table of
contents but is not numbered in the document?  So, for instance, the
Table of Contents shows 1. Introduction, but the body of the
document shows just Introduction?

 -Todd

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Numbering in contents but not body

2011-04-27 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi Todd,

todd rme schrieb:

Hi, is there a way to have a heading that is numbered in the table of
contents but is not numbered in the document?  So, for instance, the
Table of Contents shows 1. Introduction, but the body of the
document shows just Introduction?


There is no direct way, but you can fake it. For example set the number 
font color to the background color and set the left indent of the 
heading paragraph to a negative value, in such a way, that it lines up 
fine to the page text margin.


Kind regards
Regina

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Re: [libreoffice-users] users+confunsub... Improvements needed

2011-04-27 Thread Michel Gagnon

Le 2011-04-27 12:08, Sigrid Carrera a écrit :


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Welcome improvements would be:
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[libreoffice-users] Crash log attached.

2011-04-27 Thread Peter Teeson
As a retired Mac developer I would like to help track down this reproducible 
bug. 
Whom should I contact? Do I need to subscribe to the developers list?

Both OpenOffice 3.3.0 and LibreOffice 3.3.2 exhibit this behaviour. 
Steps to reproduce: 
(0) Launch either app 
(1) New spreadsheet 
(2) Format/Cells...  
Crash!

respect

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Chart how to

2011-04-27 Thread planas
Hi,

On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 18:15 +0100, Tom Davies wrote: 

 Hi :)
 
 I don't think it is possible to have a chart on it's own as a worksheet in 
 it's 
 own right.  I have been playing around trying the ways other spreadsheet 
 programs use but can't see how to do this.  I managed to get the chart onto a 
 different worksheet using copypaste but then had to redefine the data 
 sources!
 Have you managed this or found any good answers?
 Regards from
 Tom :)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Gérard FARGEOT gerard.farg...@orange.fr
 To: users@libreoffice.org
 Sent: Mon, 25 April, 2011 16:32:07
 Subject: re: [libreoffice-users] Chart how to
 
 Hi,
 
 Cut/paste.
 
 
 
  Message du 25/04/11 17:13
  De : CohoMike 
  A : users@libreoffice.org
  Copie à : 
  Objet : [libreoffice-users] Chart how to
  
  How to move a chart from the data page where it appears to
  its own worksheet or tab?
 
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Older versions of Excel could put a chart on separate sheet as an
option. I have tested this in the latest version of Excel but I believe
it is still true.

I believe Softmaker's spreadsheet could do this, I this was years ago
though.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer tutorial ready for upload

2011-04-27 Thread planas
Eliezer,

On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 09:47 +0300, Eliezer Croitoru wrote: 

 On 26/04/2011 15:38, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:
 
  On 04/25/2011 09:54 PM, David Nelson wrote:
  Hi, :-)
 
  On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 05:40, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions
  webmas...@krackedpress.com  wrote:
  I would not mind getting this tutorial emailed to me - off the list 
  - at
  webmas...@krackedpress.com
 
  I am not on thew documentation list[s].
  Feel free to sign up for the list... You can download *all* available
  documentation content (including stuff that's still in the pipeline
  and not yet published) from the LibreOffice Alfresco platform at
  http://alfresco.libreoffice.org or
  http://documentation.libreoffice.org
 
 
  David Nelson
 
  Exactly what is an Alfresco account?  Why would you need to have one?
 
  As for the Documentation List[s], I am already on 4 lists already.  
  Also, I do not know if I will ever contribute to the 
  creation/modification of any LibreOffice documentation, due to my 
  brain injuries.  Clear communication can be a problem at times when I 
  deal with typing text.  Three strokes will do that to a person.
 
  As for the documentation out there, I have the latest versions of the 
  two available guides;  Getting Started and Writer.  Or at least the 
  ones I find at http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/; 
  and the WIKI page for documentation.  The LibreOffice-NA.US 
  http://libreoffice-na.us/ site is the testing platform for the 
  LibreOffice North American Community DVD Project.  Our group is 
  creating DVDs that will service the needs of the following 
  communities;  Canadian, US-American, Mexican, and Latin American, 
  including the Hispanic communities.  Currently we have our English 
  DVDs 99% ready for publication and are working on the Spanish language 
  version [first draft is 50% +/- done] for those DVDs.  The big 
  advantage with our DVDs is the extras.  These include as much 
  documentation as we can find.  Look at this link to see what we 
  currently have for English; 
  http://libreoffice-na.us/English/documentation.html
 
  What we really need now is Spanish language documentation, even if it 
  is just the Getting-Started guide.  Also we could use Spanish language 
  extensions/add-ons plus sample files.  Right now there is a big void 
  in the Spanish language area of documentation, extensions, templates, 
  artwork, and sample files.  THEN we have to do it all over with our 
  French DVDs, that are needed for French-Canada.
 
  So the question is what is the advantage of an Alfresco account and 
  being on the documentation list[s]?  I am on the Projects list[s], the 
  International Marketing list, the US Marketing list, and the User's 
  list.  Would I really need to be on another one if I will not be able 
  to contribute/create/modify the document files?
 
 
 and what about a video documentation?
 i think that there are people on the community that would like to try 
 doing video learning  videos and not a youtube kind of but
 a more official ones.
 
 Eliezer
 

Good idea, some people prefer videos or Impress presentations to a text.
If videos are difficult or very time consuming to make, an Impress
presentation might work.

My video skills are limited, however.
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Re: Base Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc and datapilot

2011-04-27 Thread Tom Davies
HI :)
Progress is good even if it is slow.  Hopefully it might get faster as you 
become more familiar with the program.  I must admit i haven't played around 
with it myself much.
Good luck and many regards from
Tom :)






From: JZ1982 anima.s...@gmail.com
To: users@libreoffice.org
Sent: Wed, 27 April, 2011 20:24:59
Subject: Re: Base Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc and datapilot

I'm more and more convinced that for a dynamic solution Base is the answer so
today I started fiddling a bit.

The journal I saved, started Base  connect to an existing database 
spreadsheet  select file  finish

Then select on the left below Database Queries, create Query in Design View
where for now I selected all columns I want. I got to see then basically the
whole journal I saved and ended the program.

Started Calc, saved a blanc file. Tools  LibreOffice Base  New, select the
just saved DB where it will show up then as a Registered database.

Press F4 where you get to see the present databases where the selected
database also is visible (created Query in Base as well the Table it self).
Next will be how to make a query that basically consists of making a
selection based upton code and boekdatum.

Slowly progress!

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[libreoffice-users] chart question

2011-04-27 Thread CohoMike
Tom, I have not found a way. I'm used to the Excel 2003 dialogue that 
allows for a chart
to be on a separate worksheet with its own tab, where it looks like a 
slide in the PowerPoint. Copy  paste
in LibreOffice doesn't really do what I want to do. You can't have 
everything!

mike parks
www.michaeljparks.com


On 4/27/2011 10:15 AM, Tom Davies [via Document Foundation Mail Archive] 
wrote:
 Hi :)

 I don't think it is possible to have a chart on it's own as a 
 worksheet in it's
 own right.  I have been playing around trying the ways other spreadsheet
 programs use but can't see how to do this.  I managed to get the chart 
 onto a
 different worksheet using copypaste but then had to redefine the data 
 sources!
 Have you managed this or found any good answers?
 Regards from
 Tom :)





 
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[libreoffice-users] Ping Dwayne Barber

2011-04-27 Thread Twayne
Dwayne,

I have no idea why you sent me an e-mail about unsubscribing. As I 
understand it, EACH mail you receive had unsub instructions at the bottom of 
it. Read those and follow them. But, I have nothing to do with anything to 
do with the mail list or nntp group. I am simply a user via gmane.org 
newsgroup.
   Other than telling you to look at the bottom of previously received 
messages for the instructions to unsubscribe, there is nothing else I can do 
for you.

Also, please post in Plain Text, not HTML mode. Space requirements for HTML 
are magnitudes larger than for Plain Text, and some people won't be able to 
read your posts, depending on their news client.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Crash log attached.

2011-04-27 Thread Tinkerer
Peter

I am using Mac 10.6.7 and I cannot reproduce that fault in Libre 3.4 Beta
It may have been cured.

john.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Chart how to

2011-04-27 Thread plino
CohoMike, actually if you do that in Excel and open the file in Calc, the
Chart tab will show up as a regular spreadsheet tab  with a large chart on
top of the cells :)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Crash log attached.

2011-04-27 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi Peter,

Peter Teeson wrote (27-04-11 20:23)

As a retired Mac developer I would like to help track down this reproducible 
bug.
Whom should I contact? Do I need to subscribe to the developers list?

Both OpenOffice 3.3.0 and LibreOffice 3.3.2 exhibit this behaviour.
Steps to reproduce:
(0) Launch either app
(1) New spreadsheet
(2) Format/Cells...
Crash!

respect


Thanks for your offer; much appreciated!
You can write to the developer list: libreoff...@lists.freedesktop.org 
without subscribing.

(You attachment will come through on that list)

Kindest regards,
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Re: [libreoffice-users] chart question

2011-04-27 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)  
It's the 1st difference i have noticed where the lack of it in LO is not 
advantageous.  I'm not certain that it's a disadvantage but it's something i 
used to do quite often back in MSO.  I wonder what would happen to such a chart 
created in MSO and then opened in LO.  Presumably a chart can be copypasted 
into Impress just the same.  

As you say, we can't have everything.  
Thanks, good luck and regards from
Tom :)





From: CohoMike m...@michaeljparks.com
To: users@libreoffice.org
Sent: Wed, 27 April, 2011 20:36:10
Subject: [libreoffice-users] chart question

Tom, I have not found a way. I'm used to the Excel 2003 dialogue that 
allows for a chart
to be on a separate worksheet with its own tab, where it looks like a 
slide in the PowerPoint. Copy  paste
in LibreOffice doesn't really do what I want to do. You can't have 
everything!

mike parks
www.michaeljparks.com


On 4/27/2011 10:15 AM, Tom Davies [via Document Foundation Mail Archive] 
wrote:
 Hi :)

 I don't think it is possible to have a chart on it's own as a 
 worksheet in it's
 own right.  I have been playing around trying the ways other spreadsheet
 programs use but can't see how to do this.  I managed to get the chart 
 onto a
 different worksheet using copypaste but then had to redefine the data 
 sources!
 Have you managed this or found any good answers?
 Regards from
 Tom :)





 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Numbering in contents but not body

2011-04-27 Thread todd rme
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Regina Henschel
rb.hensc...@t-online.de wrote:
 Hi Todd,

 todd rme schrieb:

 Hi, is there a way to have a heading that is numbered in the table of
 contents but is not numbered in the document?  So, for instance, the
 Table of Contents shows 1. Introduction, but the body of the
 document shows just Introduction?

 There is no direct way, but you can fake it. For example set the number font
 color to the background color and set the left indent of the heading
 paragraph to a negative value, in such a way, that it lines up fine to the
 page text margin.

Thanks.  Weird that this isn't possible, it seems to be a pretty basic thing.

Todd

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Align text to bottom of footer

2011-04-27 Thread Steve Edmonds
I insert a frame in the footer and put the page numbers in that to 
control position.

Not sure if that is what you mean.
steve

On 28/04/11 10:21 AM, todd rme wrote:

I want to have the bottom of the pager numbers in the footer to be at
a particular location.  Is there a way to do this?  I can only figure
out how to set the top.

-Todd



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Chart how to

2011-04-27 Thread plino
If you used Excel you would know what CohoMike is talking about.

Excel allows to create a special type of Sheet named Chart where the only
object is a Chart using data from one of the other Sheets. It is
particularly useful when you have large spreadsheets with many tabs. It
makes it easy to locate a chart and it is very easy to switch to/from this
mode and to create Chart tabs.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Align text to bottom of footer

2011-04-27 Thread todd rme
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 6:30 PM, Steve Edmonds
steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com wrote:
 On 28/04/11 10:21 AM, todd rme wrote:

 I want to have the bottom of the pager numbers in the footer to be at
 a particular location.  Is there a way to do this?  I can only figure
 out how to set the top.

 -Todd

 I insert a frame in the footer and put the page numbers in that to control
 position.
 Not sure if that is what you mean.
 steve


That requires either getting the frame aligned to the bottom of the
footer or the text aligned to the bottom of the frame.  I can't figure
out how to do either.

-Todd

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Crash log attached.

2011-04-27 Thread Peter Teeson
Thanks Cor:
On 2011-04-27, at 5:14 PM, Cor Nouws wrote:
 Hi Peter,
 Peter Teeson wrote (27-04-11 20:23)
 As a retired Mac developer I would like to help track down this reproducible 
 bug.
 Whom should I contact? Do I need to subscribe to the developers list?
 
 Both OpenOffice 3.3.0 and LibreOffice 3.3.2 exhibit this behaviour.
 Steps to reproduce:
 (0) Launch either app
 (1) New spreadsheet
 (2) Format/Cells...
 Crash!
 
 respect
 
 Thanks for your offer; much appreciated!
 You can write to the developer list: libreoff...@lists.freedesktop.org 
 without subscribing.
 (You attachment will come through on that list)
 
 Kindest regards,
 Cor
 
 Peter
 
 
I filed it at the bugzilla site and attached the Crash log.

respect

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Crash log attached.

2011-04-27 Thread Peter Teeson
Thanks for the URL Tom.
I read that and coupled it with my 40+ years as a programmer.
Do you feel my report was inadequate? 
If so please point out specifically where I went wrong and I'll try to improve.

respect
Peter

On 2011-04-27, at 5:38 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
 HI :)
 This guide might help you post a bug-report
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport
 Regards from
 Tom :)
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 Peter Teeson wrote (27-04-11 20:23)
 As a retired Mac developer I would like to help track down this reproducible 
 bug.
 Whom should I contact? Do I need to subscribe to the developers list?
 
 Both OpenOffice 3.3.0 and LibreOffice 3.3.2 exhibit this behaviour.
 Steps to reproduce:
 (0) Launch either app
 (1) New spreadsheet
 (2) Format/Cells...
 Crash!
 
 respect
 
 Thanks for your offer; much appreciated!
 You can write to the developer list: libreoff...@lists.freedesktop.org 
 without 
 subscribing.
 (You attachment will come through on that list)
 
 Kindest regards,
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Crash log attached.

2011-04-27 Thread Peter Teeson
Thanks for trying to reproduce it john
I'll try DL'ing the Beta and see what happens.
I'm on 10.6.6 and as for Mac 10.6.7 I want to hold off a bit longer.

Peter
On 2011-04-27, at 4:55 PM, Tinkerer wrote:
 Peter
 
 I am using Mac 10.6.7 and I cannot reproduce that fault in Libre 3.4 Beta
 It may have been cured.
 
 john.
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Crash log attached.

2011-04-27 Thread Peter Teeson
Nope same SIGSEV problem using 3.4beta2
How can I help track this down?
Peter

Process: soffice [2170]
Path:/Users/pteeson/Desktop/LibreOffice.app/Contents/MacOS/soffice
Identifier:  org.libreoffice.script
Version: 3.4.0 (???)
Code Type:   X86 (Native)
Parent Process:  launchd [264]

Date/Time:   2011-04-27 20:19:57.521 -0400
OS Version:  Mac OS X 10.6.6 (10J567)
Report Version:  6

Exception Type:  EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV)
Exception Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x17df4c68
Crashed Thread:  0  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread

Thread 0 Crashed:  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0   ...ple.ApplicationServices.ATS  0x93c7ccc6 
OTL::GCommon::GetMaxLookupCount() const + 20
1   ...ple.ApplicationServices.ATS  0x93c7bc82 
ProcessRunCommon(OTL::GCommon, TGlyphArray, long, long, unsigned long, bool) 
+ 254
2   ...ple.ApplicationServices.ATS  0x93c1e1ca ProcessGSUBRun + 222
3   ...ple.ApplicationServices.ATS  0x93c17cc1 ApplyMorphForRun + 425
4   ...ple.ApplicationServices.ATS  0x93c7978b ApplyMorph + 137
5   ...ple.ApplicationServices.ATS  0x93c16fe1 _eLLCLayoutText + 274
6   ...ple.ApplicationServices.ATS  0x93c16eb8 LLCLayoutText + 83

On 2011-04-27, at 8:06 PM, Peter Teeson wrote:

 Thanks for trying to reproduce it john
 I'll try DL'ing the Beta and see what happens.
 I'm on 10.6.6 and as for Mac 10.6.7 I want to hold off a bit longer.
 
 Peter
 On 2011-04-27, at 4:55 PM, Tinkerer wrote:
 Peter
 
 I am using Mac 10.6.7 and I cannot reproduce that fault in Libre 3.4 Beta
 It may have been cured.
 
 john.
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Align text to bottom of footer

2011-04-27 Thread Steve Edmonds


On 2011-04-28 11:30, todd rme wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 6:30 PM, Steve Edmonds
 steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com wrote:
   
 On 28/04/11 10:21 AM, todd rme wrote:
 
 I want to have the bottom of the pager numbers in the footer to be at
 a particular location.  Is there a way to do this?  I can only figure
 out how to set the top.

 -Todd

   
 I insert a frame in the footer and put the page numbers in that to control
 position.
 Not sure if that is what you mean.
 steve

 
 That requires either getting the frame aligned to the bottom of the
 footer or the text aligned to the bottom of the frame.  I can't figure
 out how to do either.

 -Todd
   
I must not be understanding your requirement correctly.
Are you talking about Writer or Calc.
steve

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Crash log attached.

2011-04-27 Thread Steve Edmonds
I have OSX10.6.7 and LO 3.3.2 and cannot reproduce this bug.
Is there any special data or type of data selected with the formatcells.
steve

On 2011-04-28 06:23, Peter Teeson wrote:
 As a retired Mac developer I would like to help track down this reproducible 
 bug. 
 Whom should I contact? Do I need to subscribe to the developers list?

 Both OpenOffice 3.3.0 and LibreOffice 3.3.2 exhibit this behaviour. 
 Steps to reproduce: 
 (0) Launch either app 
 (1) New spreadsheet 
 (2) Format/Cells...  
 Crash!

 respect

 Peter

   

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Crash log attached.

2011-04-27 Thread Peter Teeson
Nope. All I have to do is make a new empty spreadsheet, with the top left empty 
cell selected as per default.
Then select Format menu Cells... item Crash. 100% reproducible.

I should add that I do not have any haxies. A pretty Vanilla 10.6.6.
Right now Im working my way through what it takes to get a debug version.
I have Xcode 3.2.4 but got to dig up 10.4 SDK... etc

Peter

On 2011-04-27, at 9:37 PM, Steve Edmonds wrote:
 I have OSX10.6.7 and LO 3.3.2 and cannot reproduce this bug.
 Is there any special data or type of data selected with the formatcells.
 steve
 
 On 2011-04-28 06:23, Peter Teeson wrote:
 As a retired Mac developer I would like to help track down this reproducible 
 bug. 
 Whom should I contact? Do I need to subscribe to the developers list?
 
 Both OpenOffice 3.3.0 and LibreOffice 3.3.2 exhibit this behaviour. 
 Steps to reproduce: 
 (0) Launch either app 
 (1) New spreadsheet 
 (2) Format/Cells...  
 Crash!
 
 respect
 
 Peter
 
 


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Crash log attached.

2011-04-27 Thread Simon Cropper

On 28/04/11 12:01, Peter Teeson wrote:

Nope. All I have to do is make a new empty spreadsheet, with the top left empty 
cell selected as per default.
Then select Format menu Cells... item Crash. 100% reproducible.

I should add that I do not have any haxies. A pretty Vanilla 10.6.6.
Right now Im working my way through what it takes to get a debug version.
I have Xcode 3.2.4 but got to dig up 10.4 SDK... etc

Peter

On 2011-04-27, at 9:37 PM, Steve Edmonds wrote:

I have OSX10.6.7 and LO 3.3.2 and cannot reproduce this bug.
Is there any special data or type of data selected with the formatcells.
steve

On 2011-04-28 06:23, Peter Teeson wrote:

As a retired Mac developer I would like to help track down this reproducible 
bug.
Whom should I contact? Do I need to subscribe to the developers list?

Both OpenOffice 3.3.0 and LibreOffice 3.3.2 exhibit this behaviour.
Steps to reproduce:
(0) Launch either app
(1) New spreadsheet
(2) Format/Cells...
Crash!

respect

Peter






Hi,

For the record, I am using...

   LibreOffice 3.3.2 OOO330m19 (Build:202)
   Ubuntu package 1:3.3.2-1ubuntu2~lucid1
   Java JRE -- Sun Microsystems Inc. 1.6.0_20

and I can not reproduce the error.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Crash log attached.

2011-04-27 Thread Steve Edmonds
Hi Peter. What version of Java do you have?
This may be a difference, I installed netbeans on my mac and have Java SE 6.
steve

On 2011-04-28 14:01, Peter Teeson wrote:
 Nope. All I have to do is make a new empty spreadsheet, with the top left 
 empty cell selected as per default.
 Then select Format menu Cells... item Crash. 100% reproducible.

 I should add that I do not have any haxies. A pretty Vanilla 10.6.6.
 Right now Im working my way through what it takes to get a debug version.
 I have Xcode 3.2.4 but got to dig up 10.4 SDK... etc

 Peter

 On 2011-04-27, at 9:37 PM, Steve Edmonds wrote:
   
 I have OSX10.6.7 and LO 3.3.2 and cannot reproduce this bug.
 Is there any special data or type of data selected with the formatcells.
 steve

 On 2011-04-28 06:23, Peter Teeson wrote:
 
 As a retired Mac developer I would like to help track down this 
 reproducible bug. 
 Whom should I contact? Do I need to subscribe to the developers list?

 Both OpenOffice 3.3.0 and LibreOffice 3.3.2 exhibit this behaviour. 
 Steps to reproduce: 
 (0) Launch either app 
 (1) New spreadsheet 
 (2) Format/Cells...  
 Crash!

 respect

 Peter


   

   

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Align text to bottom of footer

2011-04-27 Thread todd rme
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Steve Edmonds
steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com wrote:
 On 2011-04-28 11:30, todd rme wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 6:30 PM, Steve Edmonds
 steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com wrote:

 On 28/04/11 10:21 AM, todd rme wrote:
 I want to have the bottom of the pager numbers in the footer to be at
 a particular location.  Is there a way to do this?  I can only figure
 out how to set the top.

 -Todd


 I must not be understanding your requirement correctly.
 Are you talking about Writer or Calc.
 steve

Writer, sorry.  I want to have the bottom edge of the page number at a
particular, consistent location on every page.  I can get it to set
the top edge easily enough, but I can't figure out how to get it to
work for the bottom edge.

-Todd

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Crash log attached.

2011-04-27 Thread Peter Teeson
Good thought. Here's what Terminal says

Last login: Tue Apr 26 22:08:14 on ttys000
Gandalf:~ pteeson$ java -version
java version 1.6.0_24
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_24-b07-334-10M3326)
Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 19.1-b02-334, mixed mode)

Let me add that this first showed up for me under OO when I switched to 3.x.
I had filed a bug reprot there sometime ago but I guess that's dead now.

Thanks to all who are trying to reproduce my problem.

 Peter

On 2011-04-27, at 10:31 PM, Steve Edmonds wrote:

 Hi Peter. What version of Java do you have?
 This may be a difference, I installed netbeans on my mac and have Java SE 6.
 steve
 
 On 2011-04-28 14:01, Peter Teeson wrote:
 Nope. All I have to do is make a new empty spreadsheet, with the top left 
 empty cell selected as per default.
 Then select Format menu Cells... item Crash. 100% reproducible.
 
 I should add that I do not have any haxies. A pretty Vanilla 10.6.6.
 Right now Im working my way through what it takes to get a debug version.
 I have Xcode 3.2.4 but got to dig up 10.4 SDK... etc
 
 Peter
 
 On 2011-04-27, at 9:37 PM, Steve Edmonds wrote:
 
 I have OSX10.6.7 and LO 3.3.2 and cannot reproduce this bug.
 Is there any special data or type of data selected with the formatcells.
 steve
 
 On 2011-04-28 06:23, Peter Teeson wrote:
 
 As a retired Mac developer I would like to help track down this 
 reproducible bug. 
 Whom should I contact? Do I need to subscribe to the developers list?
 
 Both OpenOffice 3.3.0 and LibreOffice 3.3.2 exhibit this behaviour. 
 Steps to reproduce: 
 (0) Launch either app 
 (1) New spreadsheet 
 (2) Format/Cells...  
 Crash!
 
 respect
 
 Peter
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Align text to bottom of footer

2011-04-27 Thread planas
Todd

On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 22:54 -0400, todd rme wrote: 

 On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Steve Edmonds
 steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com wrote:
  On 2011-04-28 11:30, todd rme wrote:
  On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 6:30 PM, Steve Edmonds
  steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com wrote:
 
  On 28/04/11 10:21 AM, todd rme wrote:
  I want to have the bottom of the pager numbers in the footer to be at
  a particular location.  Is there a way to do this?  I can only figure
  out how to set the top.
 
  -Todd
 
 
  I must not be understanding your requirement correctly.
  Are you talking about Writer or Calc.
  steve
 
 Writer, sorry.  I want to have the bottom edge of the page number at a
 particular, consistent location on every page.  I can get it to set
 the top edge easily enough, but I can't figure out how to get it to
 work for the bottom edge.
 
 -Todd
 

I was able to set the page number location by using tab stops and
tabbing the number to the stop.

My method was to Insert then Footer and accept default
Then Insert Page Number 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Crash log attached.

2011-04-27 Thread Simon Cropper

On 28/04/11 13:25, Peter Teeson wrote:

Good thought. Here's what Terminal says

Last login: Tue Apr 26 22:08:14 on ttys000
Gandalf:~ pteeson$ java -version
java version 1.6.0_24
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_24-b07-334-10M3326)
Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 19.1-b02-334, mixed mode)



For comparson... My terminal states


~$ java -version
java version 1.6.0_24
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_24-b07)
Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (build 19.1-b02, mixed mode)
~$

The only notable difference is the -b07-334-10M3326 and that you 
appear to be using a 64-Bit Machine. Dumb thought, have you downloaded 
the correct version of LO? I am not sure, can you actually run a 32 Bit 
version of LO on a 64 Bit Machine?


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Crash log attached.

2011-04-27 Thread Steve Edmonds
Hmm. My java -version is exactly the same as yours.
My first install of OOO was 3.2 I think. May be you have some residual
stuff from your prior OOO install.
What if you rename your personal settings LO and OO directorys
(.libreoffice in my linux home directory, not sure where on my mac)
which would have carried settings over and see if LO can create an all
fresh setup.
May be some inherited setting is causing the crash (non-existant font or
format).
steve


On 2011-04-28 15:25, Peter Teeson wrote:
 Good thought. Here's what Terminal says

 Last login: Tue Apr 26 22:08:14 on ttys000
 Gandalf:~ pteeson$ java -version
 java version 1.6.0_24
 Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_24-b07-334-10M3326)
 Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 19.1-b02-334, mixed mode)

 Let me add that this first showed up for me under OO when I switched to 3.x.
 I had filed a bug reprot there sometime ago but I guess that's dead now.

 Thanks to all who are trying to reproduce my problem.

  Peter

 On 2011-04-27, at 10:31 PM, Steve Edmonds wrote:

   
 Hi Peter. What version of Java do you have?
 This may be a difference, I installed netbeans on my mac and have Java SE 6.
 steve

 On 2011-04-28 14:01, Peter Teeson wrote:
 
 Nope. All I have to do is make a new empty spreadsheet, with the top left 
 empty cell selected as per default.
 Then select Format menu Cells... item Crash. 100% reproducible.

 I should add that I do not have any haxies. A pretty Vanilla 10.6.6.
 Right now Im working my way through what it takes to get a debug version.
 I have Xcode 3.2.4 but got to dig up 10.4 SDK... etc

 Peter

 On 2011-04-27, at 9:37 PM, Steve Edmonds wrote:

   
 I have OSX10.6.7 and LO 3.3.2 and cannot reproduce this bug.
 Is there any special data or type of data selected with the formatcells.
 steve

 On 2011-04-28 06:23, Peter Teeson wrote:

 
 As a retired Mac developer I would like to help track down this 
 reproducible bug. 
 Whom should I contact? Do I need to subscribe to the developers list?

 Both OpenOffice 3.3.0 and LibreOffice 3.3.2 exhibit this behaviour. 
 Steps to reproduce: 
 (0) Launch either app 
 (1) New spreadsheet 
 (2) Format/Cells...  
 Crash!

 respect

 Peter



   

   
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Crash log attached.

2011-04-27 Thread Peter Teeson
On 2011-04-27, at 11:41 PM, Simon Cropper wrote:
 On 28/04/11 13:25, Peter Teeson wrote:
 Good thought. Here's what Terminal says
 
 Last login: Tue Apr 26 22:08:14 on ttys000
 Gandalf:~ pteeson$ java -version
 java version 1.6.0_24
 Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_24-b07-334-10M3326)
 Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 19.1-b02-334, mixed mode)
 
 
 For comparson... My terminal states
 
 
 ~$ java -version
 java version 1.6.0_24
 Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_24-b07)
 Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (build 19.1-b02, mixed mode)
 ~$
 
 The only notable difference is the -b07-334-10M3326 and that you appear to 
 be using a 64-Bit Machine. Dumb thought, have you downloaded the correct 
 version of LO? I am not sure, can you actually run a 32 Bit version of LO on 
 a 64 Bit Machine?
 
 -- 
 Cheers Simon

Thanks Simon. Interesting point.
My machine is a 2x 2.66 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon (Nehalem) with 6GB 1066 MHz 
DDR3 RAM
I have not done anything to make it boot into 64-bit mode. By default it runs a 
32-bit kernel.

Looking at the crash log some more it seems to be something to do with drawing 
and the ApplicationServices framework.

I'll have to sleep now, mate, but tamara I'll try to setup a build to see if I 
can debug using Xcode.

Thread 0 Crashed:  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0   ...ple.ApplicationServices.ATS  0x93c7ccc6 
OTL::GCommon::GetMaxLookupCount() const + 20
1   ...ple.ApplicationServices.ATS  0x93c7bc82 
ProcessRunCommon(OTL::GCommon, TGlyphArray, long, long, unsigned long, bool) 
+ 254
2   ...ple.ApplicationServices.ATS  0x93c1e1ca ProcessGSUBRun + 222
3   ...ple.ApplicationServices.ATS  0x93c17cc1 ApplyMorphForRun + 425
4   ...ple.ApplicationServices.ATS  0x93c7978b ApplyMorph + 137
5   ...ple.ApplicationServices.ATS  0x93c16fe1 _eLLCLayoutText + 274
6   ...ple.ApplicationServices.ATS  0x93c16eb8 LLCLayoutText + 83
7   com.apple.QD0x945e3c19 
ATSULayoutGlyphs(TATSUGlyphRecordArray*, ATSLineLayoutLineParams*, long, 
ATSUTab const*, unsigned long, __CFString const*, unsigned short const*, 
unsigned long, unsigned long) + 197
8   com.apple.QD0x945e3ad9 
TTextLineLayout::LayoutGlyphVector(TATSUGlyphRecordArray*, 
ATSLineLayoutLineParams*, TLayoutControls*, long, unsigned long) + 163
9   com.apple.QD0x945e295e 
TTextLineLayout::EnsureLayoutIsUpToDate(unsigned long, unsigned char, unsigned 
long, TATSUGlyphRecordArray**) + 940
10  com.apple.QD0x94663f78 
TTextLineLayout::GetGlyphBounds(unsigned long, unsigned long, long, long, 
unsigned short, unsigned long, ATSTrapezoid*, unsigned long*) + 164
11  com.apple.QD0x94650851 ATSUGetGlyphBounds + 143


respect
Peter
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Crash log attached.

2011-04-27 Thread Simon Cropper

On 28/04/11 14:00, Peter Teeson wrote:

On 2011-04-27, at 11:41 PM, Simon Cropper wrote:

On 28/04/11 13:25, Peter Teeson wrote:

Good thought. Here's what Terminal says

Last login: Tue Apr 26 22:08:14 on ttys000
Gandalf:~ pteeson$ java -version
java version 1.6.0_24
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_24-b07-334-10M3326)
Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 19.1-b02-334, mixed mode)



For comparson... My terminal states


~$ java -version
java version 1.6.0_24
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_24-b07)
Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (build 19.1-b02, mixed mode)
~$

The only notable difference is the -b07-334-10M3326 and that you appear to be 
using a 64-Bit Machine. Dumb thought, have you downloaded the correct version of LO? I am 
not sure, can you actually run a 32 Bit version of LO on a 64 Bit Machine?

--
Cheers Simon


Thanks Simon. Interesting point.
My machine is a 2x 2.66 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon (Nehalem) with 6GB 1066 MHz 
DDR3 RAM
I have not done anything to make it boot into 64-bit mode. By default it runs a 
32-bit kernel.

Looking at the crash log some more it seems to be something to do with drawing 
and the ApplicationServices framework.

I'll have to sleep now, mate, but tamara I'll try to setup a build to see if I 
can debug using Xcode.

Thread 0 Crashed:  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0   ...ple.ApplicationServices.ATS  0x93c7ccc6 
OTL::GCommon::GetMaxLookupCount() const + 20
1   ...ple.ApplicationServices.ATS  0x93c7bc82 ProcessRunCommon(OTL::GCommon, 
TGlyphArray, long, long, unsigned long, bool) + 254
2   ...ple.ApplicationServices.ATS  0x93c1e1ca ProcessGSUBRun + 222
3   ...ple.ApplicationServices.ATS  0x93c17cc1 ApplyMorphForRun + 425
4   ...ple.ApplicationServices.ATS  0x93c7978b ApplyMorph + 137
5   ...ple.ApplicationServices.ATS  0x93c16fe1 _eLLCLayoutText + 274
6   ...ple.ApplicationServices.ATS  0x93c16eb8 LLCLayoutText + 83
7   com.apple.QD0x945e3c19 
ATSULayoutGlyphs(TATSUGlyphRecordArray*, ATSLineLayoutLineParams*, long, 
ATSUTab const*, unsigned long, __CFString const*, unsigned short const*, 
unsigned long, unsigned long) + 197
8   com.apple.QD0x945e3ad9 
TTextLineLayout::LayoutGlyphVector(TATSUGlyphRecordArray*, 
ATSLineLayoutLineParams*, TLayoutControls*, long, unsigned long) + 163
9   com.apple.QD0x945e295e 
TTextLineLayout::EnsureLayoutIsUpToDate(unsigned long, unsigned char, unsigned 
long, TATSUGlyphRecordArray**) + 940
10  com.apple.QD0x94663f78 
TTextLineLayout::GetGlyphBounds(unsigned long, unsigned long, long, long, 
unsigned short, unsigned long, ATSTrapezoid*, unsigned long*) + 164
11  com.apple.QD0x94650851 ATSUGetGlyphBounds + 143


respect
Peter


Peter,

Sleep.

For tomorrow...

In my experience when a Java VM baulks the errors provided are next to 
useless.


Personally I would consider installing a 32-bit version of java then 
using LO Preferences point to the new version.


If you can't shake the problem -- delete all versions of Java from your 
machine then reinstall the correct version for your machine, then point 
LO to that version. Take care to not what else may be using Java and may 
require a particular version to run.


I presume the mate, but tamara... alludes to some sort of stereotype 
for Australians? Maybe mate but tamara?


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Crash log attached.

2011-04-27 Thread Steve Edmonds


On 2011-04-28 16:13, Simon Cropper wrote:
 On 28/04/11 14:00, Peter Teeson wrote:
 On 2011-04-27, at 11:41 PM, Simon Cropper wrote:
 On 28/04/11 13:25, Peter Teeson wrote:
 Good thought. Here's what Terminal says

 Last login: Tue Apr 26 22:08:14 on ttys000
 Gandalf:~ pteeson$ java -version
 java version 1.6.0_24
 Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_24-b07-334-10M3326)
 Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 19.1-b02-334, mixed mode)


 For comparson... My terminal states


 ~$ java -version
 java version 1.6.0_24
 Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_24-b07)
 Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (build 19.1-b02, mixed mode)
 ~$

 The only notable difference is the -b07-334-10M3326 and that you
 appear to be using a 64-Bit Machine. Dumb thought, have you
 downloaded the correct version of LO? I am not sure, can you
 actually run a 32 Bit version of LO on a 64 Bit Machine?

 -- 
 Cheers Simon

 Thanks Simon. Interesting point.
 My machine is a 2x 2.66 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon (Nehalem) with 6GB
 1066 MHz DDR3 RAM
 I have not done anything to make it boot into 64-bit mode. By default
 it runs a 32-bit kernel.

 Looking at the crash log some more it seems to be something to do
 with drawing and the ApplicationServices framework.

 I'll have to sleep now, mate, but tamara I'll try to setup a build to
 see if I can debug using Xcode.

 Thread 0 Crashed:  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
 0   ...ple.ApplicationServices.ATS0x93c7ccc6
 OTL::GCommon::GetMaxLookupCount() const + 20
 1   ...ple.ApplicationServices.ATS0x93c7bc82
 ProcessRunCommon(OTL::GCommon, TGlyphArray, long, long, unsigned
 long, bool) + 254
 2   ...ple.ApplicationServices.ATS0x93c1e1ca ProcessGSUBRun + 222
 3   ...ple.ApplicationServices.ATS0x93c17cc1 ApplyMorphForRun + 425
 4   ...ple.ApplicationServices.ATS0x93c7978b ApplyMorph + 137
 5   ...ple.ApplicationServices.ATS0x93c16fe1 _eLLCLayoutText + 274
 6   ...ple.ApplicationServices.ATS0x93c16eb8 LLCLayoutText + 83
 7   com.apple.QD  0x945e3c19
 ATSULayoutGlyphs(TATSUGlyphRecordArray*, ATSLineLayoutLineParams*,
 long, ATSUTab const*, unsigned long, __CFString const*, unsigned
 short const*, unsigned long, unsigned long) + 197
 8   com.apple.QD  0x945e3ad9
 TTextLineLayout::LayoutGlyphVector(TATSUGlyphRecordArray*,
 ATSLineLayoutLineParams*, TLayoutControls*, long, unsigned long) + 163
 9   com.apple.QD  0x945e295e
 TTextLineLayout::EnsureLayoutIsUpToDate(unsigned long, unsigned char,
 unsigned long, TATSUGlyphRecordArray**) + 940
 10  com.apple.QD  0x94663f78
 TTextLineLayout::GetGlyphBounds(unsigned long, unsigned long, long,
 long, unsigned short, unsigned long, ATSTrapezoid*, unsigned long*) +
 164
 11  com.apple.QD  0x94650851 ATSUGetGlyphBounds +
 143
 

 respect
 Peter

 Peter,

 Sleep.

 For tomorrow...

 In my experience when a Java VM baulks the errors provided are next to
 useless.

 Personally I would consider installing a 32-bit version of java then
 using LO Preferences point to the new version.

 If you can't shake the problem -- delete all versions of Java from
 your machine then reinstall the correct version for your machine, then
 point LO to that version. Take care to not what else may be using Java
 and may require a particular version to run.

 I presume the mate, but tamara... alludes to some sort of stereotype
 for Australians? Maybe mate but tamara?

If its an apple on OSX 10.6.6 it should be running 64 bit, so your java
should be correct. As I said it is exactly the same version as on my
mac, mac book pro 64 bit. But then removing java and LO and clearing
your home LO directory and reinstalling from scratch may clear things up.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Update and extension grizzles and aggravation

2011-04-27 Thread Cliff Scott
** Reply to message from Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com on Tue,
26 Apr 2011 08:46:18 +0100

 On 26/04/2011 03:07, Cliff Scott wrote:
 
  You can solve your own problem by deselecting them during installation. They
  only install because they are selected by default, which IMHO should not be
  done. It takes a minute or so, but there are two lists that you have to go
  through and deselect all the dictionaries and language stuff you don't want
  to install.
 
 Well I looked at the Custom install options and couldn't see any 
 dictionaries to de-select there - did I miss something?

Open up the item Optional Components. In there you will fine a whole list
of stuff inclucing Dictionaries and Language Packs. LMB on the + to open up
the list and set them as you wish.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Update and extension grizzles and aggravation

2011-04-27 Thread Cliff Scott
** Reply to message from Charles Marcus cmar...@media-brokers.com on Tue,
26 Apr 2011 11:17:17 -0400

 On 2011-04-25 10:07 PM, Cliff Scott wrote:
  You can solve your own problem by deselecting them during
  installation.
 
 But you also have to choose 'Custom Install' first to be able to
 deselect them.
 
  They only install because they are selected by default, which IMHO 
  should not be done.
 
 +1000
 
 The only language related stuff that should be selected by default is
 the detected language version of the OS itself.
 
  It takes a minute or so, but there are two lists that you have to go 
  through and deselect all the dictionaries and language stuff you
  don't want to install.
 
 Two? I have only ever had to deselect all of the other dictionaries, the
 language itself is usually only defaulted to install English.
 
 Or is there another one I've been missing that accounts for why the
 properties in 'Add/Remove Programs' still shows the hug string of every
 single language even though I only want/need English?

It still normally installs a whole list of language packs, but doesn't use
them unless you later request to change languages.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Crash log attached.

2011-04-27 Thread Ben McGinnes
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On 28/04/11 4:23 AM, Peter Teeson wrote:
 As a retired Mac developer I would like to help track down this reproducible 
 bug. 
 Whom should I contact? Do I need to subscribe to the developers list?
 
 Both OpenOffice 3.3.0 and LibreOffice 3.3.2 exhibit this behaviour. 
 Steps to reproduce: 
 (0) Launch either app 
 (1) New spreadsheet 
 (2) Format/Cells...  
 Crash!

It's not reproducable on my MacBook Pro running OS X 10.5.8 and
LibreOffice 3.3.2.


Regards,
Ben

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