[libreoffice-users] Re: 0xc0000005 error in RPCRT4.dll from soffice.bin
Don, Thanks for your suggestion, I did do a Google search before posting on here and none of the replies were terribly helpful. I have found a temporary solution; setting compatibility mode for swriter.exe to Windows 7 removes the problem completely. I'm now wondering whether LO 3.6 is truly Windows 8 ready? Thank you everyone for helping. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/0xc005-error-in-RPCRT4-dll-from-soffice-bin-tp4023874p4024319.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: LO 3,5,5,3: Odd miror-image landscape diff with LO 3.4.5
On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 19:42:11 -0600, anne-ology wrote: Odd that the printer settings should change That was my thought also! -- /\/\aurice -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: LO 3,5,5,3: Odd miror-image landscape diff with LO 3.4.5
On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 21:07:13 -0500, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote: Are you using the Mageia repository version of LO or the LO site download? Mageia repository. Manual feed, or tray feed? Tray I know that LO can have some printer setting issues that other software [like default PDF reader] do not. My problem is duplexing. Would the Envelope feeding be a similar issue? I doubt it. the envelope file is just a text file with a box into which I insert the addressee's address. Haven't tried duplexing . ... why do you need to use left or right side of the feeder? Because the HP5150's tray feed pressure bar push the paper/envelopes to the right-hand side; also, on the left there is an obstruction to a stack of envelopes. My HP laser printers use a center-feeding option for envelopes. My HP5150 doesn't. -- /\/\aurice -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: 0xc0000005 error in RPCRT4.dll from soffice.bin
Hi :) Is anything Win8 ready? MS Office 2010 and 2007 aren't. With a new platform like that it usually takes a while for people to find work-arounds and even longer for the program to update to integrate better. For MSO that will probably involve sitting out their newest version, MSO 365 and then buy their next one (or rent as i'm not sure you can pay a one-off fee and then keep using 'forever' any more). Regards from Tom :) From: ubuysa tonycros...@yahoo.co.uk To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Friday, 14 December 2012, 9:22 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: 0xc005 error in RPCRT4.dll from soffice.bin Don, Thanks for your suggestion, I did do a Google search before posting on here and none of the replies were terribly helpful. I have found a temporary solution; setting compatibility mode for swriter.exe to Windows 7 removes the problem completely. I'm now wondering whether LO 3.6 is truly Windows 8 ready? Thank you everyone for helping. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/0xc005-error-in-RPCRT4-dll-from-soffice-bin-tp4023874p4024319.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Formulas in Calc not showing results
OK, having now rebooted, LO seems to be displaying the results of the formulas again. That's a relief, and no doubt it's the reboot that solved the issue. Wish I understood why such things happen, but in any case, thanks for pushing me in that direction. As for: Also with Mac i think updates and even installing stuff seldom demands a reboot? Correct. In some cases with OS updates, reboot is required, but not usually. Mac may also have a way to re-open all the last work after a shutdown, but I haven't looked into it yet (Safari browser does this, so maybe Apple thought about it for the entire OS). I do hope to look into Linux and the like one day... Cheers, Carl With Ubuntu there is some setting that allows you to make the start-up procedure open up everything that you had open when you shut-down. There might be something similar on Mac but i don't know of good places to find out. There must be forums or soemthing worth asking. Apols and regards from Tom :) From: Carl Paulsen carlpaul...@comcast.net To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Thursday, 13 December 2012, 12:25 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Formulas in Calc not showing results It's not the downtime but rather all the work that's open that I have to keep track of, decide how to save and then close. It's hard to explain but given I work 3-4 different jobs at once and am working on new tools that I don't know very well yet, I'm always reluctant to reboot. Obviously I'll have to change that. And I too can shut down processes individually on my Mac, but I don't always know what ones apply to what programs. Sounds easier than it is... I'm still wondering why it's happening, and why LO is now opening the CSV files (no re-start or re-boot yet). In the latter case, obviously re-starting or re-booting didn't matter. This is all a lot more complicated that just re-booting. Cheers, Carl On 12/13/12 1:39 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Lol, +1 Even on GnuLinux distros (mainly Ubuntu ime tbh) it's a good plan to do a reboot to ensure that services that are normally on haven't been stopped temporarily without you really being aware of it. Of course in GnuLinux you could restart individual processes in order to avoid any down-time at all but on a desktop or mobile machine a couple of minutes of downtime is unlikely to matter much. Regards from Tom :) From: Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wednesday, 12 December 2012, 22:21 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Formulas in Calc not showing results At 16:35 12/12/2012 -0500, Carl Paulsen wrote: Restart the software or reboot the computer sometimes helps these odd glitches. You mean that you didn't try this before asking your question?! Brian Barker -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Carl Paulsen 8 Hamilton Street Dover, NH 03820 (603) 749-2310 -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Carl Paulsen 8 Hamilton Street Dover, NH 03820 (603) 749-2310 -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Formulas in Calc not showing results
Hi :) Mac is based on Bsd which is unix-based and practically a brother or sister to GnuLinux anyway. Sticking with Mac makes sense. It gets you nearly all the way without having some of the painful bits. Regards from Tom :) From: Carl Paulsen carlpaul...@comcast.net To: Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Friday, 14 December 2012, 14:05 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Formulas in Calc not showing results OK, having now rebooted, LO seems to be displaying the results of the formulas again. That's a relief, and no doubt it's the reboot that solved the issue. Wish I understood why such things happen, but in any case, thanks for pushing me in that direction. As for: Also with Mac i think updates and even installing stuff seldom demands a reboot? Correct. In some cases with OS updates, reboot is required, but not usually. Mac may also have a way to re-open all the last work after a shutdown, but I haven't looked into it yet (Safari browser does this, so maybe Apple thought about it for the entire OS). I do hope to look into Linux and the like one day... Cheers, Carl With Ubuntu there is some setting that allows you to make the start-up procedure open up everything that you had open when you shut-down. There might be something similar on Mac but i don't know of good places to find out. There must be forums or soemthing worth asking. Apols and regards from Tom :) From: Carl Paulsen carlpaul...@comcast.net To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Thursday, 13 December 2012, 12:25 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Formulas in Calc not showing results It's not the downtime but rather all the work that's open that I have to keep track of, decide how to save and then close. It's hard to explain but given I work 3-4 different jobs at once and am working on new tools that I don't know very well yet, I'm always reluctant to reboot. Obviously I'll have to change that. And I too can shut down processes individually on my Mac, but I don't always know what ones apply to what programs. Sounds easier than it is... I'm still wondering why it's happening, and why LO is now opening the CSV files (no re-start or re-boot yet). In the latter case, obviously re-starting or re-booting didn't matter. This is all a lot more complicated that just re-booting. Cheers, Carl On 12/13/12 1:39 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Lol, +1 Even on GnuLinux distros (mainly Ubuntu ime tbh) it's a good plan to do a reboot to ensure that services that are normally on haven't been stopped temporarily without you really being aware of it. Of course in GnuLinux you could restart individual processes in order to avoid any down-time at all but on a desktop or mobile machine a couple of minutes of downtime is unlikely to matter much. Regards from Tom :) From: Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wednesday, 12 December 2012, 22:21 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Formulas in Calc not showing results At 16:35 12/12/2012 -0500, Carl Paulsen wrote: Restart the software or reboot the computer sometimes helps these odd glitches. You mean that you didn't try this before asking your question?! Brian Barker -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Carl Paulsen 8 Hamilton Street Dover, NH 03820 (603) 749-2310 -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Carl Paulsen 8 Hamilton Street Dover, NH 03820 (603) 749-2310 -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All
Re: Windows 8 Compatibility (was RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: 0xc0000005 error in RPCRT4.dll from soffice.bin)
Hi :) I suspect that compatible means that it will work but that gestures and other stuff may not work fully and reliably. Does MSO 2007 support gestures? I doubt it. Some may work if the OS can access the relevant controls. From the original question i got the impression the person meant more than just working adequately and really wanted to know if everything was fully integrated and fully working. Hence why i said i doubt anything is properly fully Win8 ready. The separate track-pad looks quite nice. Not quite my cupp-tea although i like to play around with things like that for a while sometimes. When i was working in an accountancy practice i would have quite like a separate number-pad but only if it had a Tab key, to jump into the net field without having to reach for the mouse. The only ones i have seen are either thousands of pounds or miss crucial keys such as + and - let alone other useful ones such as Tab. Regards from Tom :) From: Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org To: 'Tom Davies' tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk; 'ubuysa' tonycros...@yahoo.co.uk; users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Friday, 14 December 2012, 16:55 Subject: Windows 8 Compatibility (was RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: 0xc005 error in RPCRT4.dll from soffice.bin) @Tom, What do you mean by Win8 ready? Do you mean integration with multi-touch, the additional UI provisions, or what? If you mean certified for Windows 8, it will depend on whether the requirements for that have been worked through. I know of no reason why LibreOffice can't achieve that. I don't know if it has been done. I'd be very surprised if older versions of Office don't already satisfy the essential requirements. If you mean compatible with Windows 8, anything that is compatible with Windows 7 should work. I just ran the Windows 8 Upgrade Advisor on my aging Tablet PC, running Windows XP SP3. It turns out that I can't upgrade because the processor on that machine does not have hardware NX support, and Windows 8 requires it as part of the tighter security with which it operates. However, on the review of software that needed to be upgraded or that is not supported, Office 2007 was listed as Compatible. In addition, on that particular machine, the Upgrade Advisor listed this software as compatible: OpenOffice.org 3.4.1 Apache Software Foundation I'm confident, when I run the Windows 8 Upgrade Advisor where I have LibreOffice installed, I will see a similar encouraging result. - Dennis PS: You can purchase boxed Microsoft Office 2013. It is very pricey. Here, we'll be renting, since one single lease will cover all of our multiple household machines and provide all of the Office components used here. It will be much easier to have the same version of Office on all systems going forward. It was too expensive to do that before. Some Personal Windows 8 Preparations: Something else I'm doing to prepare cutting over full to Windows 8 (with older Windows and with Linux running in VMs for my document forensics work). Logitech makes a Wireless Rechargeable Touchpad that provides multi-touch gestures and other features. I am going to use it to replace my mouse on Windows 7 and also confirm it with Windows 8 ahead of fully upgrading to Windows 8: http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/touchpad-t650 On Windows 7, there are multi-touch gestures that can work to zoom, scroll, etc. On Windows 8, additional touch features supported by the operating system will also work. This allows me to keep my primary desktop system and its non-touch 30 monitor. The touchpad should be superior to working with only a mouse and knowing all the keyboard shortcuts that make Windows 8 operable without touch (and useful, though, for accessibility and integration with assistive devices). I expect that LibreOffice integration should be fine, the same as for Windows 7. (I also have added Office 2013 Preview installed on Windows 8, but I haven't put it through its paces there. I don't know if there are additional Windows 8 behaviors or if it also runs essentially the same as on Windows 7.) -Original Message- From: Tom Davies [mailto:tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 05:00 To: ubuysa; users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: 0xc005 error in RPCRT4.dll from soffice.bin Hi :) Is anything Win8 ready? MS Office 2010 and 2007 aren't. With a new platform like that it usually takes a while for people to find work-arounds and even longer for the program to update to integrate better. For MSO that will probably involve sitting out their newest version, MSO 365 and then buy their next one (or rent as i'm not sure you can pay a one-off fee and then keep using 'forever' any more). Regards from Tom :) From: ubuysa tonycros...@yahoo.co.uk To: users@global.libreoffice.org
[libreoffice-users] Trying to get labels to fit
Trying to produce labels, but they don't fit the paper! I'm using the built-in L7163 address label format. It's a bit complicated as I don't have a printer attached - I have to make a PDF document and print it on another machine. As Export to PDF just gives a sheet with the fields names on rather than the filled-in values, I use a PDF printer and am getting different (and wrong) PDFs from both OO and LO. Interestingly, the results are different between LO and OO, and also between the printers I use, so there seems to be a problem with the printer interface. With OO using CutePDF I get a US letter size document (8 by 11 inches), using Bullzip I get a document 20.8 by 28.2 cm (a bit smaller than A4). The pitches are also wrong. With LO I get the same from both printers: a correctly sized document. But the pitch is wrong: 9.2 by 3.6 cm instead of 9.9 by 3.8. How on earth can I get OO and/or LO to produce my labels? It's too late for my Xmas cards now - I've gone back to an ancient Lotus SmartSuite which works perfectly. But won't run on Windows 7 unfortunately. - Peter -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Trying-to-get-labels-to-fit-tp4024409.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: Windows 8 Compatibility (was RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: 0xc0000005 error in RPCRT4.dll from soffice.bin)
There is a difference between what the OS provides when running on the Windows 8 desktop versus running an MX application. So far, I've only seen OneNote MX on what's called the Metro (or Modern) interface. The MX applications run full screen (or on the side) and the application has to be designed appropriately for it. I'd be surprised if it is practical to do this with the current OpenOffice-descendant code bases, especially for Windows RT, the version for ARM processors. I think extensive productivity applications will continue to run on the desktop side of Windows 8, at least when the computer keyboard and display form factors make that appealing. Versions designed for touch usage and MX-style will work on smaller form factors, including phones, and depend on the multi-touch gestures more. LibreOffice, OpenOffice, and Microsoft Office 2013 are desktop applications and benefit from what the OS provides without requiring application cooperation (apart from using the Windows APIs in ways that allows the OS personality to be extended to the application). For some form of inputs, such as accepting ink, the application has to cooperate. (Windows 8 also supports use of pen and stylus input. The Windows 8 Surface comes with a stylus, but the Windows RT Surface does not. But Windows 7 and the Windows XP Tablet PC editions from 2005 all support this form of input.) Office 2007 does work with my Tablet PC's features, although I think it is essentially via OS provisions. There may be some accommodation for ink from the Tablet PC stylus, but I have not explored that beyond how it works with Office 2007 OneNote. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Tom Davies [mailto:tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 10:44 To: dennis.hamil...@acm.org; 'ubuysa'; users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: Windows 8 Compatibility (was RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: 0xc005 error in RPCRT4.dll from soffice.bin) Hi :) I suspect that compatible means that it will work but that gestures and other stuff may not work fully and reliably. Does MSO 2007 support gestures? I doubt it. Some may work if the OS can access the relevant controls. From the original question i got the impression the person meant more than just working adequately and really wanted to know if everything was fully integrated and fully working. Hence why i said i doubt anything is properly fully Win8 ready. The separate track-pad looks quite nice. Not quite my cupp-tea although i like to play around with things like that for a while sometimes. When i was working in an accountancy practice i would have quite like a separate number-pad but only if it had a Tab key, to jump into the net field without having to reach for the mouse. The only ones i have seen are either thousands of pounds or miss crucial keys such as + and - let alone other useful ones such as Tab. Regards from Tom :) From: Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org To: 'Tom Davies' tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk; 'ubuysa' tonycros...@yahoo.co.uk; users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Friday, 14 December 2012, 16:55 Subject: Windows 8 Compatibility (was RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: 0xc005 error in RPCRT4.dll from soffice.bin) @Tom, What do you mean by Win8 ready? Do you mean integration with multi-touch, the additional UI provisions, or what? If you mean certified for Windows 8, it will depend on whether the requirements for that have been worked through. I know of no reason why LibreOffice can't achieve that. I don't know if it has been done. I'd be very surprised if older versions of Office don't already satisfy the essential requirements. If you mean compatible with Windows 8, anything that is compatible with Windows 7 should work. I just ran the Windows 8 Upgrade Advisor on my aging Tablet PC, running Windows XP SP3. It turns out that I can't upgrade because the processor on that machine does not have hardware NX support, and Windows 8 requires it as part of the tighter security with which it operates. However, on the review of software that needed to be upgraded or that is not supported, Office 2007 was listed as Compatible. In addition, on that particular machine, the Upgrade Advisor listed this software as compatible: OpenOffice.org 3.4.1 Apache Software Foundation I'm confident, when I run the Windows 8 Upgrade Advisor where I have LibreOffice installed, I will see a similar encouraging result. - Dennis PS: You can purchase boxed Microsoft Office 2013. It is very pricey. Here, we'll be renting, since one single lease will cover all of our multiple household machines and provide all of the Office components used here. It will be much easier to have the same version of Office on all systems going forward. It was too expensive to do that before. Some Personal Windows 8 Preparations: Something else I'm doing to prepare cutting over full to
Re: Windows 8 Compatibility (was RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: 0xc0000005 error in RPCRT4.dll from soffice.bin)
On 12/14/2012 02:37 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: There is a difference between what the OS provides when running on the Windows 8 desktop versus running an MX application. So far, I've only seen OneNote MX on what's called the Metro (or Modern) interface. The MX applications run full screen (or on the side) and the application has to be designed appropriately for it. I'd be surprised if it is practical to do this with the current OpenOffice-descendant code bases, especially for Windows RT, the version for ARM processors. I think extensive productivity applications will continue to run on the desktop side of Windows 8, at least when the computer keyboard and display form factors make that appealing. Versions designed for touch usage and MX-style will work on smaller form factors, including phones, and depend on the multi-touch gestures more. LibreOffice, OpenOffice, and Microsoft Office 2013 are desktop applications and benefit from what the OS provides without requiring application cooperation (apart from using the Windows APIs in ways that allows the OS personality to be extended to the application). For some form of inputs, such as accepting ink, the application has to cooperate. (Windows 8 also supports use of pen and stylus input. The Windows 8 Surface comes with a stylus, but the Windows RT Surface does not. But Windows 7 and the Windows XP Tablet PC editions from 2005 all support this form of input.) Office 2007 does work with my Tablet PC's features, although I think it is essentially via OS provisions. There may be some accommodation for ink from the Tablet PC stylus, but I have not explored that beyond how it works with Office 2007 OneNote. - Dennis It seems to me that Win8 compatibility is harder to pin down. Does it mean that the software can function using the Metro/Modern/Whatever interface and the traditional desktop or that it runs in Win8 using some mode? IMHO this distinct will cause much confusion with people as to what is meant. Truthfully, I am confused how to properly describe Win8 compatibility and I have been using computers for 30 years plus. -Original Message- From: Tom Davies [mailto:tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 10:44 To: dennis.hamil...@acm.org; 'ubuysa'; users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: Windows 8 Compatibility (was RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: 0xc005 error in RPCRT4.dll from soffice.bin) Hi :) I suspect that compatible means that it will work but that gestures and other stuff may not work fully and reliably. Does MSO 2007 support gestures? I doubt it. Some may work if the OS can access the relevant controls. From the original question i got the impression the person meant more than just working adequately and really wanted to know if everything was fully integrated and fully working. Hence why i said i doubt anything is properly fully Win8 ready. The separate track-pad looks quite nice. Not quite my cupp-tea although i like to play around with things like that for a while sometimes. When i was working in an accountancy practice i would have quite like a separate number-pad but only if it had a Tab key, to jump into the net field without having to reach for the mouse. The only ones i have seen are either thousands of pounds or miss crucial keys such as + and - let alone other useful ones such as Tab. Regards from Tom :) From: Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org To: 'Tom Davies' tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk; 'ubuysa' tonycros...@yahoo.co.uk; users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Friday, 14 December 2012, 16:55 Subject: Windows 8 Compatibility (was RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: 0xc005 error in RPCRT4.dll from soffice.bin) @Tom, What do you mean by Win8 ready? Do you mean integration with multi-touch, the additional UI provisions, or what? If you mean certified for Windows 8, it will depend on whether the requirements for that have been worked through. I know of no reason why LibreOffice can't achieve that. I don't know if it has been done. I'd be very surprised if older versions of Office don't already satisfy the essential requirements. If you mean compatible with Windows 8, anything that is compatible with Windows 7 should work. I just ran the Windows 8 Upgrade Advisor on my aging Tablet PC, running Windows XP SP3. It turns out that I can't upgrade because the processor on that machine does not have hardware NX support, and Windows 8 requires it as part of the tighter security with which it operates. However, on the review of software that needed to be upgraded or that is not supported, Office 2007 was listed as Compatible. In addition, on that particular machine, the Upgrade Advisor listed this software as compatible: OpenOffice.org 3.4.1 Apache Software Foundation I'm confident, when I run the Windows 8 Upgrade Advisor where I have LibreOffice installed, I will see a similar encouraging result. - Dennis
[libreoffice-users] Re: Trying to get labels to fit
On 12/14/2012 11:12 AM, ptoye wrote: Trying to produce labels, but they don't fit the paper! I'm using the built-in L7163 address label format. It's a bit complicated as I don't have a printer attached - I have to make a PDF document and print it on another machine. As Export to PDF just gives a sheet with the fields names on rather than the filled-in values, I use a PDF printer and am getting different (and wrong) PDFs from both OO and LO. Interestingly, the results are different between LO and OO, and also between the printers I use, so there seems to be a problem with the printer interface. With OO using CutePDF I get a US letter size document (8 by 11 inches), using Bullzip I get a document 20.8 by 28.2 cm (a bit smaller than A4). The pitches are also wrong. With LO I get the same from both printers: a correctly sized document. But the pitch is wrong: 9.2 by 3.6 cm instead of 9.9 by 3.8. How on earth can I get OO and/or LO to produce my labels? It's too late for my Xmas cards now - I've gone back to an ancient Lotus SmartSuite which works perfectly. But won't run on Windows 7 unfortunately. ... I think this will help: http://www.worldlabel.com/Pages/openoffice-a4.htm http://www.worldlabel.com/Templates/a4/WL-SG3899.ott That will provide a template (table format) for your labels. You might consider ordering from Worldlabel... they are the only vendor that I know of that provide OOo/AOO/LO templates for their products. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] RE: LO does not start in Windows Vista - SOLVED
Hi Tom apology for the late answer and thank you for your email. I believe that the lack of feedback was due to the lack of clues about what the problem could have been. I myself was completely baffled. Cheers Schultz Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 22:29:57 -0800 From: ml-node+s969070n4024080...@n3.nabble.com To: inter...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: LO does not start in Windows Vista - SOLVED Hi :) Congrats on fixing it! Nicely done! :) Sorry you didn't get any answers, i'm not sure why no-one noticed it but hopefully next time you post here people will see it. Apols, congrats and regards from Tom :) From: schultz101 [hidden email] To: [hidden email] Sent: Wednesday, 12 December 2012, 21:37 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO does not start in Windows Vista - SOLVED Greetings I have, yet again, re-installed from scratch the whole program by - presumibly - using a different build and finally I got it to work. Cheers Schultz101 -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/LO-does-not-start-in-Windows-Vista-tp4023836p4024044.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: [hidden email] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: [hidden email] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/LO-does-not-start-in-Windows-Vista-tp4023836p4024080.html To unsubscribe from LO does not start in Windows Vista, click here. NAML -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/LO-does-not-start-in-Windows-Vista-tp4023836p4024422.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] [3.6.4.3] Avery A4 label templates missing
While checking Peter's Trying to get labels to fit I found that my version of LO (linux): Version 3.6.4.3 (Build ID: 2ef5aff) is missing all Avery A4 label templates only the US Letter size templates are available. Granted my locale is English(US), but I would think that all label templates would be available in: New|Labels|Brand: Avery A4|Type: The interesting part is that I do have the templates available in: LibreOffice 3.5.7.2 Build ID: 3215f89-f603614-ab984f2-7348103-1225a5 Can anyone else with English(US) locale check to see if they have the same? -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: Windows 8 Compatibility (was RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: 0xc0000005 error in RPCRT4.dll from soffice.bin)
Jay, I agree. There are two kinds of compatibility for Windows 8. First, desktop compatibility is essentially the same as for Windows 7. There is more room for gradual upgrade to integrate more smoothly, including on x64 machines with Atom processors, solid-state drives, and storage in the cloud. I think UX features will also adjust and improve, but that will be relatively gradual. The second kind of compatibility is determined by whether or not an application is distributed via the Windows Store. As far as I know, that's reserved for MX applications that run on either Windows 8 or Windows RT. I also believe that is the only way a consumer can obtain MX applications that they didn't write themselves. (There are apparently ways for Enterprises to create something like their own stores.) So yes, there are two levels of capability. The productivity software such as LibreOffice is going to be running on the desktop for a long time. There is a great deal to figure out to see how to deploy on MX successfully. In a way, the same issues arise for Android and iOS as targets for the desktop productivity software that we've been relying upon. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Jay Lozier [mailto:jsloz...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 12:04 To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: Windows 8 Compatibility (was RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: 0xc005 error in RPCRT4.dll from soffice.bin) On 12/14/2012 02:37 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: There is a difference between what the OS provides when running on the Windows 8 desktop versus running an MX application. So far, I've only seen OneNote MX on what's called the Metro (or Modern) interface. The MX applications run full screen (or on the side) and the application has to be designed appropriately for it. I'd be surprised if it is practical to do this with the current OpenOffice-descendant code bases, especially for Windows RT, the version for ARM processors. I think extensive productivity applications will continue to run on the desktop side of Windows 8, at least when the computer keyboard and display form factors make that appealing. Versions designed for touch usage and MX-style will work on smaller form factors, including phones, and depend on the multi-touch gestures more. LibreOffice, OpenOffice, and Microsoft Office 2013 are desktop applications and benefit from what the OS provides without requiring application cooperation (apart from using the Windows APIs in ways that allows the OS personality to be extended to the application). For some form of inputs, such as accepting ink, the application has to cooperate. (Windows 8 also supports use of pen and stylus input. The Windows 8 Surface comes with a stylus, but the Windows RT Surface does not. But Windows 7 and the Windows XP Tablet PC editions from 2005 all support this form of input.) Office 2007 does work with my Tablet PC's features, although I think it is essentially via OS provisions. There may be some accommodation for ink from the Tablet PC stylus, but I have not explored that beyond how it works with Office 2007 OneNote. - Dennis It seems to me that Win8 compatibility is harder to pin down. Does it mean that the software can function using the Metro/Modern/Whatever interface and the traditional desktop or that it runs in Win8 using some mode? IMHO this distinct will cause much confusion with people as to what is meant. Truthfully, I am confused how to properly describe Win8 compatibility and I have been using computers for 30 years plus. -Original Message- From: Tom Davies [mailto:tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 10:44 To: dennis.hamil...@acm.org; 'ubuysa'; users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: Windows 8 Compatibility (was RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: 0xc005 error in RPCRT4.dll from soffice.bin) Hi :) I suspect that compatible means that it will work but that gestures and other stuff may not work fully and reliably. Does MSO 2007 support gestures? I doubt it. Some may work if the OS can access the relevant controls. From the original question i got the impression the person meant more than just working adequately and really wanted to know if everything was fully integrated and fully working. Hence why i said i doubt anything is properly fully Win8 ready. The separate track-pad looks quite nice. Not quite my cupp-tea although i like to play around with things like that for a while sometimes. When i was working in an accountancy practice i would have quite like a separate number-pad but only if it had a Tab key, to jump into the net field without having to reach for the mouse. The only ones i have seen are either thousands of pounds or miss crucial keys such as + and - let alone other useful ones such as Tab. Regards from Tom :) From: Dennis E. Hamilton
Re: Windows 8 Compatibility (was RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: 0xc0000005 error in RPCRT4.dll from soffice.bin)
On 12/14/2012 04:39 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: Jay, I agree. There are two kinds of compatibility for Windows 8. First, desktop compatibility is essentially the same as for Windows 7. There is more room for gradual upgrade to integrate more smoothly, including on x64 machines with Atom processors, solid-state drives, and storage in the cloud. I think UX features will also adjust and improve, but that will be relatively gradual. The second kind of compatibility is determined by whether or not an application is distributed via the Windows Store. As far as I know, that's reserved for MX applications that run on either Windows 8 or Windows RT. I also believe that is the only way a consumer can obtain MX applications that they didn't write themselves. (There are apparently ways for Enterprises to create something like their own stores.) So yes, there are two levels of capability. The productivity software such as LibreOffice is going to be running on the desktop for a long time. There is a great deal to figure out to see how to deploy on MX successfully. In a way, the same issues arise for Android and iOS as targets for the desktop productivity software that we've been relying upon. - Dennis Dennis, The problem then is properly explaining to Win8 users what they should expect in terms of compatibility. But even so, I fear a large number of users will not either pay attention to the vendor statements or be confused by the MS advertising and believe that all software will work with the new UI like the advertised apps. It probably will be a lesser problem with FOSS projects because a higher portion of the user base is more technically astute. If we are having this discussion then the majority of users will be confused by this issue. The scenario, IMHO, is who will the user blame: MS or the software vendor? IMHO, I think the compatibility definition is caused by MS being schizophrenic with the OS and trying to make work on tablets/phones and desktops the same way. Jay -Original Message- From: Jay Lozier [mailto:jsloz...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 12:04 To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: Windows 8 Compatibility (was RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: 0xc005 error in RPCRT4.dll from soffice.bin) On 12/14/2012 02:37 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: There is a difference between what the OS provides when running on the Windows 8 desktop versus running an MX application. So far, I've only seen OneNote MX on what's called the Metro (or Modern) interface. The MX applications run full screen (or on the side) and the application has to be designed appropriately for it. I'd be surprised if it is practical to do this with the current OpenOffice-descendant code bases, especially for Windows RT, the version for ARM processors. I think extensive productivity applications will continue to run on the desktop side of Windows 8, at least when the computer keyboard and display form factors make that appealing. Versions designed for touch usage and MX-style will work on smaller form factors, including phones, and depend on the multi-touch gestures more. LibreOffice, OpenOffice, and Microsoft Office 2013 are desktop applications and benefit from what the OS provides without requiring application cooperation (apart from using the Windows APIs in ways that allows the OS personality to be extended to the application). For some form of inputs, such as accepting ink, the application has to cooperate. (Windows 8 also supports use of pen and stylus input. The Windows 8 Surface comes with a stylus, but the Windows RT Surface does not. But Windows 7 and the Windows XP Tablet PC editions from 2005 all support this form of input.) Office 2007 does work with my Tablet PC's features, although I think it is essentially via OS provisions. There may be some accommodation for ink from the Tablet PC stylus, but I have not explored that beyond how it works with Office 2007 OneNote. - Dennis It seems to me that Win8 compatibility is harder to pin down. Does it mean that the software can function using the Metro/Modern/Whatever interface and the traditional desktop or that it runs in Win8 using some mode? IMHO this distinct will cause much confusion with people as to what is meant. Truthfully, I am confused how to properly describe Win8 compatibility and I have been using computers for 30 years plus. -Original Message- From: Tom Davies [mailto:tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 10:44 To: dennis.hamil...@acm.org; 'ubuysa'; users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: Windows 8 Compatibility (was RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: 0xc005 error in RPCRT4.dll from soffice.bin) Hi :) I suspect that compatible means that it will work but that gestures and other stuff may not work fully and reliably. Does MSO 2007 support gestures? I doubt it. Some may work if the OS can access the relevant controls. From the
[libreoffice-users] [Disregard] Re: [3.6.4.3] Avery A4 label templates missing
On 12/14/2012 12:45 PM, NoOp wrote: While checking Peter's Trying to get labels to fit I found that my version of LO (linux): Version 3.6.4.3 (Build ID: 2ef5aff) is missing all Avery A4 label templates only the US Letter size templates are available. Granted my locale is English(US), but I would think that all label templates would be available in: New|Labels|Brand: Avery A4|Type: The interesting part is that I do have the templates available in: LibreOffice 3.5.7.2 Build ID: 3215f89-f603614-ab984f2-7348103-1225a5 Can anyone else with English(US) locale check to see if they have the same? Checked on 3 other systems (linux Windows) and the A4 templates are there. So the issue looks to be a profile issue. Sorry for the noise. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Trying to get labels to fit
Hi ptoye, About 4 or 5 years ago when doing labels for our Christmas cards, I ran across the table style forms mentioned by NoOp below. I will never go back to the standard frame type forms standard in OO and LO. I've had absolutely no alignment problems. I'll also paste here some assistance if you are using a database to fill out the forms: *LibreOffice Labels* Go to insert/fields/other. In that window choose the Database Tab, then select mail merge, and drag the fields you want to your label form. Then in the same column as the mail merge selection choose next record and click insert. Copy the information from the first cell to the other cells in the template. I don't know if this might help anyone or not. I had an OpenOffice form problem using the table template with a standard 30 label sheet (3 x 10). I have all of our Christmas card addresses in an OpenOffice database. I have the form setup, etc, to automatically pull the address information in when I click print and select the database, etc. It works great with one exception. Last year my wife said I missed having a few addresses included. I didn't think anything about it, and honestly, didn't think that was possible. This year before giving her the printed labels I thought I would check that everyone was there. I set the printing so it is sorting to print A_Z based on the last name. It takes three sheets. I have 78 names in the database, but only had 76 printed labels. What happened was when the printing went from the first sheet to the second sheet, it misses one record. The rest of the second page is fine. When I went from the second sheet to the third sheet, once again, it skipped the next label, then printed fine for the balance. When I say it skipped it, the missing record just disappears. It isn't that I end up with a blank label at the top of the sheet. The next one in line to be printed on the first label on Page 2 vanishes and the one that should be the second one on the second page becomes the first one on the second page. The same with the third page. A person would never pick this up unless checking the database against the printed labels. To solve this problem, if you need three sheets of labels, you need three sheets in your template. Also, LibreOffice and OpenOffice (at least past versions) print out one blank page between each sheet of labels. If you print the document (without importing the information, so you just have the fields) as a text file, then delete out the blank sheets, and then save the text file back to your template, that problem is solved. Don On 12/14/2012 03:18 PM, NoOp wrote: On 12/14/2012 11:12 AM, ptoye wrote: Trying to produce labels, but they don't fit the paper! I'm using the built-in L7163 address label format. It's a bit complicated as I don't have a printer attached - I have to make a PDF document and print it on another machine. As Export to PDF just gives a sheet with the fields names on rather than the filled-in values, I use a PDF printer and am getting different (and wrong) PDFs from both OO and LO. Interestingly, the results are different between LO and OO, and also between the printers I use, so there seems to be a problem with the printer interface. With OO using CutePDF I get a US letter size document (8 by 11 inches), using Bullzip I get a document 20.8 by 28.2 cm (a bit smaller than A4). The pitches are also wrong. With LO I get the same from both printers: a correctly sized document. But the pitch is wrong: 9.2 by 3.6 cm instead of 9.9 by 3.8. How on earth can I get OO and/or LO to produce my labels? It's too late for my Xmas cards now - I've gone back to an ancient Lotus SmartSuite which works perfectly. But won't run on Windows 7 unfortunately. ... I think this will help: http://www.worldlabel.com/Pages/openoffice-a4.htm http://www.worldlabel.com/Templates/a4/WL-SG3899.ott That will provide a template (table format) for your labels. You might consider ordering from Worldlabel... they are the only vendor that I know of that provide OOo/AOO/LO templates for their products. -- ** -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] [3.6.4.3] Avery A4 label templates missing
Hi NoOp, I have all sizes. I have the Linux 3.6.4.3 download from the Document Foundation. I'm running Ubuntu 12.10. Don On 12/14/2012 03:45 PM, NoOp wrote: While checking Peter's Trying to get labels to fit I found that my version of LO (linux): Version 3.6.4.3 (Build ID: 2ef5aff) is missing all Avery A4 label templates only the US Letter size templates are available. Granted my locale is English(US), but I would think that all label templates would be available in: New|Labels|Brand: Avery A4|Type: The interesting part is that I do have the templates available in: LibreOffice 3.5.7.2 Build ID: 3215f89-f603614-ab984f2-7348103-1225a5 Can anyone else with English(US) locale check to see if they have the same? -- ** -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: [3.6.4.3] Avery A4 label templates missing
On 12/14/2012 04:35 PM, Don Myers wrote: Hi NoOp, I have all sizes. I have the Linux 3.6.4.3 download from the Document Foundation. I'm running Ubuntu 12.10. Don Thanks for checking (my version is the same - non-distro), the problem is my user profile. Seem my [Disregard] Re: [3.6.4.3] Avery A4 label templates missing post. Again, Thanks very much for checking. Gary On 12/14/2012 03:45 PM, NoOp wrote: While checking Peter's Trying to get labels to fit I found that my version of LO (linux): Version 3.6.4.3 (Build ID: 2ef5aff) is missing all Avery A4 label templates only the US Letter size templates are available. Granted my locale is English(US), but I would think that all label templates would be available in: New|Labels|Brand: Avery A4|Type: The interesting part is that I do have the templates available in: LibreOffice 3.5.7.2 Build ID: 3215f89-f603614-ab984f2-7348103-1225a5 Can anyone else with English(US) locale check to see if they have the same? -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Trying to get labels to fit
On 12/14/2012 04:28 PM, Don Myers wrote: Hi ptoye, About 4 or 5 years ago when doing labels for our Christmas cards, I ran across the table style forms mentioned by NoOp below. I will never go back to the standard frame type forms standard in OO and LO. I've had absolutely no alignment problems. I'll also paste here some assistance if you are using a database to fill out the forms: ... snip excellent advise The good folks at WorldLabel now also include autofill PDF forms for some (probably their most popular?) of their labels: http://www.worldlabel.com/Pages/autofillpdf-labels.htm#address -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Trying to get labels to fit
My experience with World Label is also excellent. They are big supporters of open source software, including Linux, LO, and OO. They furnished me with a rather unusual label size I needed. A friend was printing labels on that size in MS word. Two thirds down the page the bottom of one label was printing on the top of the label below it. I used the table style template available from World Label and they printed perfectly in LibreOffice. Don On 12/14/2012 08:13 PM, NoOp wrote: On 12/14/2012 04:28 PM, Don Myers wrote: Hi ptoye, About 4 or 5 years ago when doing labels for our Christmas cards, I ran across the table style forms mentioned by NoOp below. I will never go back to the standard frame type forms standard in OO and LO. I've had absolutely no alignment problems. I'll also paste here some assistance if you are using a database to fill out the forms: ... snip excellent advise The good folks at WorldLabel now also include autofill PDF forms for some (probably their most popular?) of their labels: http://www.worldlabel.com/Pages/autofillpdf-labels.htm#address -- -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: Windows 8 Compatibility (was RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: 0xc0000005 error in RPCRT4.dll from soffice.bin)
Jay, Yes, user confusion and frustrated expectations do seem to be risks. I think the bigger problem will be with Windows RT systems, where Windows 7/8 and earlier desktop applications do not run at all. On Windows 8 systems, having both MX applications and desktop applications may or may not be a difficulty for users. We'll have to see. Software producers that have both a desktop and an MX version will need to be careful about how things work when both are installed on a Windows 8 machine. There are already examples of that with Internet Explorer, OneNote, Skype, SkyDrive, and Netflix. That's something to think about for LibreOffice too. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Jay Lozier [mailto:jsloz...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 13:59 To: dennis.hamil...@acm.org Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: Windows 8 Compatibility (was RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: 0xc005 error in RPCRT4.dll from soffice.bin) On 12/14/2012 04:39 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: Jay, I agree. There are two kinds of compatibility for Windows 8. First, desktop compatibility is essentially the same as for Windows 7. There is more room for gradual upgrade to integrate more smoothly, including on x64 machines with Atom processors, solid-state drives, and storage in the cloud. I think UX features will also adjust and improve, but that will be relatively gradual. The second kind of compatibility is determined by whether or not an application is distributed via the Windows Store. As far as I know, that's reserved for MX applications that run on either Windows 8 or Windows RT. I also believe that is the only way a consumer can obtain MX applications that they didn't write themselves. (There are apparently ways for Enterprises to create something like their own stores.) So yes, there are two levels of capability. The productivity software such as LibreOffice is going to be running on the desktop for a long time. There is a great deal to figure out to see how to deploy on MX successfully. In a way, the same issues arise for Android and iOS as targets for the desktop productivity software that we've been relying upon. - Dennis Dennis, The problem then is properly explaining to Win8 users what they should expect in terms of compatibility. But even so, I fear a large number of users will not either pay attention to the vendor statements or be confused by the MS advertising and believe that all software will work with the new UI like the advertised apps. It probably will be a lesser problem with FOSS projects because a higher portion of the user base is more technically astute. If we are having this discussion then the majority of users will be confused by this issue. The scenario, IMHO, is who will the user blame: MS or the software vendor? IMHO, I think the compatibility definition is caused by MS being schizophrenic with the OS and trying to make work on tablets/phones and desktops the same way. Jay [ ... ] -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Dictionary add not working
How did you try to add the custom words to which custom dictionary? This information will help to find a solution. On 2012-12-14 02:21, Mark Silva wrote: OS Windows 7 Home Premium 32 Bit LibraOffice Version 3.6.4.3 (Build ID: 2ef5aff) When I try to add custom words (names and stuff for a story) It simply just don't work at all. nothing happens and I can find a way to add a custom Dictionary but cant find that option either. If I right click on a made up name or word and select add, the word appears to be added, but once I close LO and open it later the same word name is not recognized. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Dictionary add not working
By right clicking on the word (When it has the red line under it and spell check on) I choose add to add it to the dictionary, but it does NOT add it. I was hoping there was a setting I have missed to fix this or a way to add a custom dictionary that works. I am using OS Windows 7 Home Premium 32 Bit LibraOffice Version 3.6.4.3 (Build ID: 2ef5aff) On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 7:21 PM, rost52 bugquestcon...@online.de wrote: How did you try to add the custom words to which custom dictionary? This information will help to find a solution. On 2012-12-14 02:21, Mark Silva wrote: OS Windows 7 Home Premium 32 Bit LibraOffice Version 3.6.4.3 (Build ID: 2ef5aff) When I try to add custom words (names and stuff for a story) It simply just don't work at all. nothing happens and I can find a way to add a custom Dictionary but cant find that option either. If I right click on a made up name or word and select add, the word appears to be added, but once I close LO and open it later the same word name is not recognized. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+help@global.libreoffice.** org users%2bh...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/**get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-** unsubscribe/http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/** Netiquette http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.**libreoffice.org/global/users/http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO crashes when using File - Wizard
Goodafternoon (2012/11/21 17:30), Thomas Blasejewicz wrote: Windows XP Pro I just installed the very latest version of LO ( 3.6.4.3 (Build ID: 2ef5aff)) and noticed, that LO crashes EVERY time I try to use File - Wizard - whatever (means ANY function under Wizard) This happens ONLY on my office computer WHAT am I supposed to be looking for / changing? Thank you. Today, I uninstalled LO, deleted old LO folders, restarted the computer and installed the newest version (3.6.4.3 (Build ID: 2ef5aff). Java is set and running, The ext. (you know what) thing should cause no problem, since the same functions are installed in my home computer and there DO NOT cause any trouble. Still, LO crashes 100% when using ANY of the wizard functions. Is there anything else I can try? Thank you Thomas -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: Windows 8 Compatibility (was RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: 0xc0000005 error in RPCRT4.dll from soffice.bin)
Jay Lozier wrote Dennis, The problem then is properly explaining to Win8 users what they should expect in terms of compatibility. But even so, I fear a large number of users will not either pay attention to the vendor statements or be confused by the MS advertising and believe that all software will work with the new UI like the advertised apps. It probably will be a lesser problem with FOSS projects because a higher portion of the user base is more technically astute. If we are having this discussion then the majority of users will be confused by this issue. The scenario, IMHO, is * who will the user blame * : MS or the software vendor? IMHO, I think the compatibility definition is caused by MS being schizophrenic with the OS and trying to make work on tablets/phones and desktops the same way. Jay FWIW it wasn't my intention to blame anybody. I had hoped I might be helping by highlighting what appears to me to be a minor issue with LO3.6 and Windows 8? I like to think I am more technically astute that the norm, although now retired I spent over 30 years as a sysprog working with large IBM mainframe operating systems. I'm running Windows 8 only because the upgrade price was too good to miss, other wise I'd have stayed with 7. I'm not using TIFKAM at all (sorry, TIFKAM - The Interface Formerly Known As Metro) I'm a pure desktop user. I suspect the vast majority of current Windows 8 users are pretty similar. I also agree that MS is trying to face two ways at once with Windows 8, the clunky integration of the desktop into TIFKAM looks to me like a product rushed to market to prevent MS getting left behind in the rush to tablets. I appreciate that there will always be a lag on FOSS when the base OS is upgraded. I asked my original question on here to find out whether this was a known issue and whether anyone else has seen this (very minor) problem. I have posted it as a bug though I am still not certain that it's not my problem after all. My main intention is to help not complain, I'm sorry if my comment about LO not being Windows 8 ready came across as a complaint. Thank you all for the help and advice you provide. I wish I were able to help more but I think my skills are now probably best suited to a museum! -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Windows-8-Compatibility-was-RE-libreoffice-users-Re-0xc005-error-in-RPCRT4-dll-from-soffice-bin-tp4024389p4024465.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] user interface language
Good afternoon As I just wrote in a different post, today I installed the newest version of LO 3.6.4.3 (Build ID: 2ef5aff) from http://www.libreoffice.org/download/ LibreOffice *Windows, version 3.6.4, English (US)*. Yet, after installation I noticed, that the user interface language is Japanese (my OS language). Not that I have any problems with Japanese, but before I uninstalled LO I had it set to English. THAT (multilanguage version) is what I am supposed to have downloaded. Tools - Options - Language setting - user inferface gives ONLY Japanese as available options. According to: http://www.libreoffice.org/download/instructions/ In the dropdown list on the right, choose the language you want. If you just want US English, you don't need any language pack. (I downloaded and installed also the English help file, which I usually do not do.) What is the trick, to set the user interface language back to English? Thank you Thomas -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Dictionary add not working
red line indicates that your spell checker is working.Did you select a custom dictiionary in tools/options/language settings/writing aids? I checked their: standard for all and all words of all languages I am using and are not found in the normal dictionairies are in there.I enter them the same way you decribed.On 12/15/2012 12:58 PM, Mark Silva wrote: By right clicking on the word (When it has the red line under it and spell check on) I chooseaddto add it to thedictionary, but it does NOT add it. I was hoping there was a setting I have missed to fix this or a way to add acustom dictionary that works. I am using OS Windows 7 Home Premium 32 BitLibraOffice Version 3.6.4.3 (Build ID: 2ef5aff) On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 7:21 PM, rost52bugquestcontri@online.dewrote:How did you try to add the custom words to which custom dictionary?This information will help to find a solution.On 2012-12-14 02:21, Mark Silva wrote:OS Windows 7 Home Premium 32 BitLibraOffice Version 3.6.4.3 (Build ID: 2ef5aff)When I try to add custom words (names and stuff for a story) It simply justdon't work at all. nothing happens and I can find a way to add a customDictionary but cant find that option either.If I right click on a made up name or word and select add, the word appearsto be added, but once I close LO and open it later the same word name isnot recognized. --For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to:users+help@global.libreoffice.orgProblems?http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/Posting guidelines + more:http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/NetiquetteList archive:http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] user interface language
I just installed yesterday Version 3.6.4.3 (Build ID: 2ef5aff) English US Multilanguage on XP/SP3 English with Asian language support package.. During customized installation I selected English, Japanese, German and Dutch for GUI and installed the language packs for the same languages. I have not problem and when I open Tools - Options - Language setting - user interface I see ALL the languages the way I installed them and made a test. All languages work for the GUI. The OS should not be the problem. Could it be that only Japanese was selected during installations? I would try to re-install and/or make a new user profile. On 12/15/2012 3:26 PM, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote: Good afternoon As I just wrote in a different post, today I installed the newest version of LO 3.6.4.3 (Build ID: 2ef5aff) from http://www.libreoffice.org/download/ LibreOffice *Windows, version 3.6.4, English (US)*. Yet, after installation I noticed, that the user interface language is Japanese (my OS language). Not that I have any problems with Japanese, but before I uninstalled LO I had it set to English. THAT (multilanguage version) is what I am supposed to have downloaded. Tools - Options - Language setting - user inferface gives ONLY Japanese as available options. According to: http://www.libreoffice.org/download/instructions/ In the dropdown list on the right, choose the language you want. If you just want US English, you don't need any language pack. (I downloaded and installed also the English help file, which I usually do not do.) What is the trick, to set the user interface language back to English? Thank you Thomas -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO crashes when using File - Wizard
Ups, it seems I am lucky. Exactly the same version on my computer does all the wizards. As I never use them I made a test. No problem. I am no very curious about the cause of your problem On 12/15/2012 3:20 PM, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote: Goodafternoon (2012/11/21 17:30), Thomas Blasejewicz wrote: Windows XP Pro I just installed the very latest version of LO ( 3.6.4.3 (Build ID: 2ef5aff)) and noticed, that LO crashes EVERY time I try to use File - Wizard - whatever (means ANY function under Wizard) This happens ONLY on my office computer WHAT am I supposed to be looking for / changing? Thank you. Today, I uninstalled LO, deleted old LO folders, restarted the computer and installed the newest version (3.6.4.3 (Build ID: 2ef5aff). Java is set and running, The ext. (you know what) thing should cause no problem, since the same functions are installed in my home computer and there DO NOT cause any trouble. Still, LO crashes 100% when using ANY of the wizard functions. Is there anything else I can try? Thank you Thomas -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: Windows 8 Compatibility (was RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: 0xc0000005 error in RPCRT4.dll from soffice.bin)
On 12/15/2012 01:20 AM, ubuysa wrote: Jay Lozier wrote Dennis, The problem then is properly explaining to Win8 users what they should expect in terms of compatibility. But even so, I fear a large number of users will not either pay attention to the vendor statements or be confused by the MS advertising and believe that all software will work with the new UI like the advertised apps. It probably will be a lesser problem with FOSS projects because a higher portion of the user base is more technically astute. If we are having this discussion then the majority of users will be confused by this issue. The scenario, IMHO, is * who will the user blame * : MS or the software vendor? IMHO, I think the compatibility definition is caused by MS being schizophrenic with the OS and trying to make work on tablets/phones and desktops the same way. Jay FWIW it wasn't my intention to blame anybody. I had hoped I might be helping by highlighting what appears to me to be a minor issue with LO3.6 and Windows 8? I like to think I am more technically astute that the norm, although now retired I spent over 30 years as a sysprog working with large IBM mainframe operating systems. I'm running Windows 8 only because the upgrade price was too good to miss, other wise I'd have stayed with 7. I'm not using TIFKAM at all (sorry, TIFKAM - The Interface Formerly Known As Metro) I'm a pure desktop user. I suspect the vast majority of current Windows 8 users are pretty similar. I also agree that MS is trying to face two ways at once with Windows 8, the clunky integration of the desktop into TIFKAM looks to me like a product rushed to market to prevent MS getting left behind in the rush to tablets. I appreciate that there will always be a lag on FOSS when the base OS is upgraded. I asked my original question on here to find out whether this was a known issue and whether anyone else has seen this (very minor) problem. I have posted it as a bug though I am still not certain that it's not my problem after all. My main intention is to help not complain, I'm sorry if my comment about LO not being Windows 8 ready came across as a complaint. Thank you all for the help and advice you provide. I wish I were able to help more but I think my skills are now probably best suited to a museum! I think you brought a valid issue that needs to be addressed by all software developers and making sure the end users understand how to use the software on Win8. It may be less of an issue for most FOSS projects because of their user base. Where I see a problem is with ordinary users who may be confused by schizophrenic nature of Win8 and what is meant by being compatible with it - there are two some what different definitions. As a Linux user I am not directly affected but I see user questions about Metro/Modern/Whatever integration vs the traditional desktop integration occurring. As I said early if I am confused then think of the confusion of ordinary users who primarily see advertising and store displays. Given that many will buy a new computer with Win8 preinstalled and are probably talking to sales staff marginally more knowledgeable than them I see nothing but confusion. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Windows-8-Compatibility-was-RE-libreoffice-users-Re-0xc005-error-in-RPCRT4-dll-from-soffice-bin-tp4024389p4024465.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
