Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.1.3

2013-12-16 Thread Dr. R. O. Stapf - the service institute japan
Hi Tom,Thanks for the hint, I will do with the 4.1.4 version which is
  scheduled to be released this week.RPresidentthe service institute 
japan... the service enhancement companywww.tsij.org
On 2013-12-14 00:46, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
Ahh, i think just go for a standard normal reinstall of 4.1.3.  maybe
re-download the installer to make sure that isn't the problem
Regards from
Tom :)


On 13 December 2013 02:42, rost52bugquestcontri@online.dewrote:The fact that I 
had to downgrade from 4.2.3.2 to 4.0.6 due to bugs and
Nino's proposal to install 2 versions parallel made my thinking that it
would be very efficient to have the install wiazerd modify to use it to
replace a version or install it parallel to an existing one.


I am just hesitant to go trough the work of installing LibO through the
command line.


In my case I would install 4.0.6 (stable) and 4.1.3.2 (with some nasty bugs
for me but some interesting features as well). With 2 versions I also could
do easy testing for bug reports.


Is there interest/support for having the installed wizard modified to enable
parallel installations?


On 2013-12-12 23:07, Nino Novak wrote:Am 12.12.2013 09:38, schrieb Kunwar 
Shivpal Singh:What would happen if I download LO 3.5.7 (already started it from 
Source
Forge. Will there be a clash between the 2 versions? Will LO 4.1.3.2
allow me to install the older version LO 3.5.7?Kunwar, if it is of interest for 
you: you can install both versions in
parallel - seehttps://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallelRegards,
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Recent Documents List

2013-06-20 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf

Steve, thanks for your hint ROSt52
On 12.06.2013 12:30, Steve Edmonds wrote:


On 2013-06-12 13:33, Dr. R. O Stapf wrote:


On 12.06.2013 07:22, Steve Edmonds wrote:


On 2013-06-12 10:15, Dan Lewis wrote:

On 06/11/2013 11:53 AM, Mirosław Zalewski wrote:

On 11/06/2013 at 16:09, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:


Does anyone remember how to fix the list of recent documents to be longer
than 10?

I don't know how to fix list of recent documents, but if you want to have
access to more than 10 documents, you might want to have a look at this
message:
http://goo.gl/gAMgM
 I just looked at this link. Then I looked for the file: registrymodifications.xcu. While 
it exists in the User folder of the configuration files, I did not find the item item 
oor:path=/org.openoffice.Office.Common/History. Nor could I locate prop 
oor:name=PickListSize oor:op=fuse. This is true for LibreOffice 3.6.6 and 4.0.3. What line 
is this found in this file?

 Any other suggestions?

--Dan

Hi. I used to (may be back at 2.4) edit an xcu file to increase history length to 32. Then they 
changed something in LO that made it impractical so now I use History Master that is an easier way.

steve


Could you please explain the way you used the History Master to obtain a longer 
recent file list?
After installing (may be you need to restart LO) go to ToolsAdd Ons (at the bottom)History 
Master. There set the list length. The list starts at the current length and extends to the new 
length with use.

Steve






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Re: [libreoffice-users] Recent Documents List

2013-06-20 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf


On 13.06.2013 03:11, Dan Lewis wrote:

On 06/11/2013 09:33 PM, Dr. R. O Stapf wrote:


On 12.06.2013 07:22, Steve Edmonds wrote:


On 2013-06-12 10:15, Dan Lewis wrote:

On 06/11/2013 11:53 AM, Mirosław Zalewski wrote:

On 11/06/2013 at 16:09, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:


Does anyone remember how to fix the list of recent documents to be longer
than 10?

I don't know how to fix list of recent documents, but if you want to have
access to more than 10 documents, you might want to have a look at this
message:
http://goo.gl/gAMgM
 I just looked at this link. Then I looked for the file: registrymodifications.xcu. While 
it exists in the User folder of the configuration files, I did not find the item item 
oor:path=/org.openoffice.Office.Common/History. Nor could I locate prop 
oor:name=PickListSize oor:op=fuse. This is true for LibreOffice 3.6.6 and 4.0.3. What line 
is this found in this file?

 Any other suggestions?

--Dan

Hi. I used to (may be back at 2.4) edit an xcu file to increase history length to 32. Then they 
changed something in LO that made it impractical so now I use History Master that is an easier way.

steve


Could you please explain the way you used the History Master to obtain a longer 
recent file list?
 History Master is an extension that was developed by OpenOffice.org for the split between OOo 
and LO. It still works with LO. Download it here:

http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/HistoryMaster.
 Use the Extension Manager (Tools  Extension Manager) to install it. Then close LO and then 
reopen it. Use Tools  Add-ons History Manager to select the length that you want the recent 
file list to be. Click OK. Each time you open a document with LO, it will show up in this list and 
will increase the number of files that are listed in it.


--Dan

Dan, Thanks for the hint with the download. This was the key to success. A nice extension!. Changing 
of the  registrymodifications.xcu did not work because I could not identify the strings.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Recent Documents List

2013-06-20 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf

Keith, also thanks to you!

On 13.06.2013 18:30, Keith Bainbridge wrote:

Try this:

http://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/941/can-i-access-a-list-of-recent-documents-longer/

Keith Bainbridge

keithrbaugro...@gmail.com

0447 667 468


On 12 June 2013 00:09, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:


Hi :)
Does anyone remember how to fix the list of recent documents to be longer
than 10?  There was 1 solved thread about this and 1 unsolved.  Can anyone
remember when the solved list happened?  Perhaps a link to the Nabble
thread?

Regards from
Tom :)








From: susan zarrett suezr...@gmail.com
To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk
Sent: Monday, 10 June 2013, 23:28
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Documenta



Unfortunately not, but thanks for asking.



On 6/10/2013 5:45 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)

Did you ever manage to solve this one?
Regards from

Tom :)






From: Tim Lloyd tim.ll...@gmx.com
To: susan zarrett suezr...@gmail.com
Cc: documentat...@global.libreoffice.org; users@global.libreoffice.org

users@global.libreoffice.org

Sent: Thursday, 16 May 2013, 0:02
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Documenta


Hi Susan and welcome to LibreOffice. There was a

   thread about this back

in January which may be of help. I haven't tried it:

https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/nabble-mailing-list-interface/

Also, I have copied this to the users list which is

   probably a better

resource. The docs list is related to documentation of

   LO.

Cheers


On 05/16/2013 06:42 AM, susan zarrett wrote:

Hi, I'm new to LibreOffice.  I can't figure out

   how to show a list of

all documents and not just the 10 shown.  Please

   help.  Thanks, Susan

Zarrett




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Recent Documents List

2013-06-11 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf


On 12.06.2013 07:22, Steve Edmonds wrote:


On 2013-06-12 10:15, Dan Lewis wrote:

On 06/11/2013 11:53 AM, Mirosław Zalewski wrote:

On 11/06/2013 at 16:09, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:


Does anyone remember how to fix the list of recent documents to be longer
than 10?

I don't know how to fix list of recent documents, but if you want to have
access to more than 10 documents, you might want to have a look at this
message:
http://goo.gl/gAMgM
 I just looked at this link. Then I looked for the file: registrymodifications.xcu. While it 
exists in the User folder of the configuration files, I did not find the item item 
oor:path=/org.openoffice.Office.Common/History. Nor could I locate prop 
oor:name=PickListSize oor:op=fuse. This is true for LibreOffice 3.6.6 and 4.0.3. What line 
is this found in this file?

 Any other suggestions?

--Dan

Hi. I used to (may be back at 2.4) edit an xcu file to increase history length to 32. Then they 
changed something in LO that made it impractical so now I use History Master that is an easier way.

steve


Could you please explain the way you used the History Master to obtain a longer 
recent file list?



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Merging with Calc only

2012-12-06 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf

Michael,
Even if it can be done with Calc、the question, which came to my mind was, why to make a worksheet 
for students in Calc? Why not in Writer, Draw, or Impress?

ROSt52

On 2012-12-06 18:27, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
I think you do the same thing.  It should also work the same way for Impress 
and Draw too.  A lot of things that people try to use Calc for are easier to do 
in Base but only if you have some experience with it.  At some point people 
that use Calc would be doing themselves a favour by struggling with Base for a 
non-urgent task
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#LibreOffice_Calc_Guide

Regards from
Tom :)







From: J. Michael Morse jm...@jagmail.southalabama.edu
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Thursday, 6 December 2012, 0:24
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Merging with Calc only

I would like to handout worksheets to students with their names already printed 
on it.

I have a workbook in Calc with two spreadsheets.  The first spreadsheet is 
simply a list of names (NAMES).  The second spreadsheet is a form with, among 
other things, a name field (FORM).  I would like to print FORM as many times as 
the NAMES field contains, and of course have each form with each individual 
name on it.

I have googled this and seen many results but they all refer to using Writer.  
Can this be done using just Calc?

Cheers.

Michael

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Writer] Split screen in half horizontally?

2012-12-06 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf
This would realy be a good feature. I also miss the possibility to compare to documents side by side 
and synchronized scrolling. I hate to say it but this is a good feature of MSO. Just hope that our 
devs can add ti to LibO.



On 2012-12-05 20:50, Gilles wrote:

I agree. I also miss being able to split a document horizontally in two
halves. It's very useful when going through a big document.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Second paragraph language

2012-11-29 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf

Regina, I took the your words from gordom's mail.

How can you set the language in the default paragraph style? I could not find a 
possibility to do so?



On 2012-11-29 23:36, gordom wrote:

set the desired language in the
paragraph style default.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Second paragraph language

2012-11-29 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf
Thanks for putting my attention to this drop down list. Until now I did not recognize this 
possibility because switching languages never created a problem using the Tool/Language... menu.



On 2012-11-30 01:25, Regina Henschel wrote:

Hi,

Dr. R. O Stapf schrieb:

Regina, I took the your words from gordom's mail.

How can you set the language in the default paragraph style? I could not
find a possibility to do so?



Open the category Paragraph Styles in the StylesFormatting window. Right click on Default 
and select item Modify Switch to dialog page Font. Select the desired language from the 
drop-down list Language.


Kind regards
Regina





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Problem reading Word 2003 document

2012-11-29 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf

Could not open the file

LibO 3.5.7.2 XP pro / SP3


On 2012-11-30 11:26, NoOp wrote:

On 11/29/2012 04:05 PM, NoOp wrote:

On 11/29/2012 08:45 AM, Chris Carlson wrote:

Okay, I must be brain-dead.  I misread nabble as nobble.

Looking at nabble, it's way more than I need if anyone want's to look at
the document with which I'm having trouble.  It can be downloaded from
http://beachware.org/Dec12.doc.

...

Opens fine for me in:
LO 3.6.3.2
Linux and Windows.

LO 3.5.4.2
Linux.

Opens in Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (AOO)
Linux. However right column is screwed up (blank until page 4). Crashed
AOO 3.4.1 Windows, But opened after recovery - right column screwed in
Windows version as well.

And just loaded up a new LibreOffice 3.5.4.2 Windows: opens fine in that
version as well.

Recommend that you rename your LO profile and then try. If it works,
then you most likely have an issue with your profile.








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Re: [libreoffice-users] Second paragraph language

2012-11-27 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf

I running Libo 3.5.7 (English US version) on XP/SP3

GUI: English

Default Western language: English
Default Asian language: Japanese
Language packages are installed for English, German, Dutch and Japanese
I am writing documents in English, Japanese, German and Dutch

All I am doing is start typing in one of the languages and then: toollanguage here I select: 
Selection, Paragraph, For all text. It seems that LibO even recognizes the languages, nevertheless I 
have to make the selection.



On 2012-11-27 23:43, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:

On 11/27/2012 08:44 AM, gordom wrote:

Hallo everyone.
Question concerns a localized version of Writer.

When I start a new document a default language is set to the paragraph. Its name is displayed on 
a status bar.


Quite often however, I need to write documents in foreign language. Now, if I want to set the 
other language, I need to scroll down the whole list of all available options each time. It would 
be much more convenient to see the other language name right away (beside a default one). Is 
there any way to set its name permanently on the list?
I noticed that this can be achieved if the user interface language is different then a default 
language for documents (but it's not exactly what I want).

Thank you very much for any help. Kind regards,

gordom



Is this a Windows Install? The all of the other options seem to say this.

If it was a Windows install, you could have done a custom install and choose only the languages 
[needed to be done in several places] you want to use.  Then the list of languages would be smaller.


May we know what the defaultlanguage is and what foreign language[s] you are using?  Also what 
version of LibreOffice and OS are you using?  Is sounds like you are using Windows, but it may 
notbe that.





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Re: [libreoffice-users] [More questions - but some the same as before]

2012-11-24 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf

Brian, please don't worry. I wrote from Brian and Charles. Ok?

On 2012-11-24 13:13, Brian Barker wrote:

At 12:51 24/11/2012 +0900, Dr. R. O Stapf wrote:

On 2012-11-24 12:24, Brian Barker wrote:
I have no idea how many users are subscribed this list but let's just say arguendo there are 
10. If each of us 10 users contributed just 5 tasks they performed regularly in LW (and how 
those tasks are accomplished) then we would have 50 tasks.


No, I did *not* write that.  Please take care when quoting.

Brian Barker





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Re: [libreoffice-users] [More questions - but some the same as before]

2012-11-23 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf

Below texts are from Brian and Charles.

I cannot say if 10 people can write about 5 tasks or not. I am willing to write about 3, 5 if I can 
spare a bit more time. However, it must be organized. We all have other things to do thus 
duplication must be avoided. This in turn means a working mode needs to be defined. I am open to 
listen/read.


On 2012-11-24 12:24, Brian Barker wrote:


I have no idea how many users are subscribed this list but let’s just say arguendo there are 10. 
If each of us 10 users contributed just 5 tasks they performed regularly in LW (and how those 
tasks are accomplished) then we would have 50 tasks.


That's very unlikely. It would happen only if you collaborated carefully to 
avoid duplication.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO crashes when using File - Wizard

2012-11-21 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf
I am running XP Pro SP3 and LibO 3.5.7 and I don't have crashed as you describe 
them.


On 2012-11-21 17:30, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:
 Windows XP Pro
 I just installed the very latest version of LO (3.6.3.2 (Build ID:
 58f22d5)) and noticed, that LO crashes EVERY time I try to use
 File - Wizard - whatever (means ANY function under Wizard)
 This happens on my office computer
 At home I have another one, same Windows XP Pro, LO 3.6.3.0 (I think;
 check when I get home)
 The last time I tried the Wizard function at home there was no problem.

 Google shows a bug report:
 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53154
 Where it says: resolved / fixed

 Since LO crashes with a probability of 100%(on my office computer)and
 the bug is supposed to be fixed ...

 WHAT am I supposed to be looking for / changing?

 Thank you.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] [Ten questions]

2012-11-21 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf


On 2012-11-22 12:35, Brian Barker wrote:

At 08:12 21/11/2012 -0500, Virgil Aonly wrote:

These questions raise an interesting design decision made by LibO.

When it comes to Autocorrect, I've noticed that, by default, LibO enables all of the Autocorrect 
options. LibO naturally assumes that, if I type a (c), what I REALLY want is a copyright 
symbol. It seems to me that is the same faulty assumption that has made people so frustrated with 
MS Word; the software publisher decide what people want and sets the defaults accordingly.


Every time I load a fresh install of LibO, the first thing I have to do is go into Autocorrect 
and disable nearly all of the options. I think it would make more sense for the default install 
to have Autocorrect disabled and allow the user to enable it as desired.


But think of the consequences.  Remember that most users of any software use only a small subset 
of its capabilities.  If automatic correction was hidden by default, many (most?) users would 
never know it existed.  The fact that you can describe having to disable the parts you don't like 
shows that you have learned at least of the existence of the facility.  I hope that's true of most 
users.  The frustration may be evidence of didactic success!


Brian Barker

I follow the argumentation of Brain. The option list under tools would be the place to make. 
However, when clicking the Help button good explanations with example should show up that the user 
sees what will happen.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: OpenOffice to be dumped in Freiburg ?

2012-11-19 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf

What a discussion has been started. Great!

As for doing revers engineering on binary files, I know how difficult it is. However, it is not 
impossible. Should the great devs of AOO and LibO be enabled to join forces, there is a tremendous 
know-how and manpower available. I just hope that people in both organizations start thinking about 
joining forces and act ASAP.


EU and the law suit is definitely something which can help us.

This reminds me to discussions on highest management level in a multinational company of some 8000 - 
1 employees world wide. Management was not very happy with the way MS used their power.


This means that also larger corporations could switch to a highly bug free  LibO. As for new 
features of MSO and an productivity increase in large corporation it is actually close to zero. The 
introduction of ribbons caused a huge productivity loss in large corporations and cost a lot of 
money for ribbon training. Such a switch could also be accelerated by MS new policy to offer their 
products on subscription base. Huge regular bills will be eye-catchers...


I keep fingers crossed and will contribute when I can do so.


On 2012-11-19 22:46, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:


I contribute to LibreOffice by working on the North American Community DVD Project in creating 
English distribution DVDs.  Also I have created the largest [so I have been told] spell checking 
dictionaries for American English, British English, and Canadian English.  Also, I try to help 
people out on some of the lists.


There is a project that is getting started, by some of the users, to create a 4 page cheat sheet 
to help new users learn and use LibreOffice.  That is in the initial idea stage and needs help 
to get it going.


So there are options out there than could use some people who do not have any programming skills, 
or marketing skills.  If you have the ability to explain how things are done in LibreOffice and 
get that down on paper, you are needed.  I know that the documentation people are looking for 
people to do various things.  Heck, if you can go to the NA-DVD project and help make it better, I 
would be most grateful.


Tim L.
webmas...@libreoffice-na.us
http://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.6-installs/install.html


On 11/19/2012 08:34 AM, Carl Paulsen wrote:
Thanks, Regina.  I know there are other ways to contribute, but I don't necessarily know what 
they are. Templates is one way, but the real issue I see is going from MSO to LO/OO.  We can't 
control the other end.


So is there a simple list of SPECIFIC ways users can contribute (templates is a good example) 
that is easily found?  I've seen some general lists of how to contribute, but I haven't searched 
much for more specifics.  In any case it should probably be front and center on the website 
(again, not the develop, donate $$, etc. generic list, but more specifics).


Carl


On 11/19/12 8:09 AM, Regina Henschel wrote:

Hi,
Carl Paulsen schrieb:

In practical use, I would NOT say LO (or OOo) has a high file
compatibility with MS Office.  Virtually every file I receive from MS
Office users has some kind of problem (bullet lists almost NEVER convert
correctly, at least from MSO to LO).  I'm only an occasional Office
suite user so I put up with it (plus I'm on a Mac), but I've never been
able to convince others to use LO for this reason alone. And I mostly
work with non-profits who, for several reasons, should be avid LO users.

I also realize MSO, with it's market share, stands only to gain from
keeping it's formatting a moving target.  With that in mind, I just
can't imagine how a project like LO could hope to keep up and make inroads.

Wish I could help with making it work better, but I know nothing about
contributing to development.


You do not need to be a developer to help. One idea for interoperability I heard on LibOCon, is 
to make templates, that can be converted nicely. So if you have access to MSO, then examine, 
what kind of things are dangerous for converting and what kind of things convert without 
problems. Make a Wiki site with your observations and create good templates based on this 
rationale.


Kind regards
Regina










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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Writer: AutoCorrect language resets and sticks to English after Japanese script is inserted

2012-11-15 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf
 wasn't
corrected, but I'll update it anyway. I'll let you know if the behavior
changes.


On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 11:39 PM, MiguelAngel mari...@miguelangel.mobi*
*wrote:

  El 07/11/12 1:28, Minix escribió:

  Thank you.

I have reproduced your exact same steps, but with Brazilian Portuguese
instead of German. The document language switches back to English as
soon
as I start typing again. Likewise, the default language in
ToolsOptionsLanguage SettingsLanguagesDefault languages for
documents
also switches back to English/Japanese when this happens.

Whenever I set the language back to Portuguese, newly typed text is
treated
as English. I can, for example, select all the text in Portuguese and
set
it to be treated as Portuguese, but any new or modified text gets
treated
as English.

On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Dr. R. O Stapf
reinh...@stapf-online.comwrote:


   I am not sure if my test matches your situation:


I have LibO:
- User interface English
- Asian language: Japanese
- German dictionary installed
- Normally I am using English and Japanese

Test:
- Opened a new writer document, started typing in German.
- The spellchecker showed errors; red wavy lines under words.
- Changed to German (Tools/Language/For all text / German)
- Spellchecker removed red wavy lines under words.
- Switch over to Japanese writing (半角/全角key) and wrote a Japanese
sentence
(Kanji, hiragana, katakana) without any problems. No wavy red lines
under
the Japanese words.
- Switched back from Japanese (半角/全角key again) and continued writing
German.
No wavy red lines under the German words. Thus writer recognized
German
correctly.
- copied Japanese text into clipboard and pasted at the end of the
German
text (no switching to Japanese writing)
- Continued writing German and all is okay.

I am using LibO 3.5.7 on XP / SP3

Hope it gives you a hint.




On 2012-11-06 23:05, Minix wrote:

   Good afternoon.


I'm sorry for insisting, but it's been 13 days and I haven't had a
single
response, nor were able to fix the issue.

At the very least, is anyone here affected by this problem?

Thank you.

On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 11:11 PM, Minix b...@2dbonsai.com wrote:

Good evening.

  I'm running LibreOffice 3.6.2.2 on Windows 7. My default language in

LibreOffice is set to Brazilian Portuguese.

When I'm typing a text in Portuguese and insert Japanese text, the
AutoCorrect changes the language to the following text to English.
The
text
that has already been typed as Portuguese remains unaffected. I am
able
to
set the text manually back to Portuguese, but as soon as Japanese
text is
typed, the roman script that comes afterward is treated again as
English.

Is this a known problem? Do anyone know a solution or workaround
that
doesn't require manually changing the language every time?

Thank you.

- Raphael Campos



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Hi Raphael,

Have you tried resetting the user profile.
Often solves strange problems.
wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfilehttp://wiki.documentfoundation.org/**UserProfile
http://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/**UserProfilehttp://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile

I guess the font language is right in the paragraph and character
styles.

Miguel Ángel.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison Chart

2012-11-14 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf
When I wrote my comment I was not thinking about the change of a font, but getting something which 
helps to understand how Writer work and a support to unlearn Word. I am currently struggling with 
unlearning Word and Power Point.



On 2012-11-13 22:56, VA wrote:

Yes, MS completely redesigned the user interface with Word 2007, so any
chart made for Word 2003 could be very different for one made for Word 2007.

I'm not sure how effective a chart would be, for LibO and Word, in many
ways, just think differently. LibO uses not only paragraph styles but also
page styles, which is a completely foreign concept to MS. So, it's not just
about hitting a sequence of mouse clicks in the right order; it's about
relearning how to create, edit, and format documents. There are typically
several ways to accomplish a task, and the LibO method that is most like
Word may not be the best way to get things done. To get the most out of
LibO, you might find yourself having to deliberately unlearn Word. To be
sure, you can find things in the Writer menu that are similar to the Word
menu, but the power of an office suite comes in learning how the program
thinks, which is working at a deeper level than simply selecting a font from
a drop-down box, etc.

Virgil

ps. Can someone fix the annoying feature of this list that you must hit reply all to send a 
reply to the list? I'm constantly sending out duplicates of my messages because my first one only 
went to one person. No other list I belong to has that behavior. My apologies to Dr. Stapf for the 
rerun.




-Original Message- From: Dr. R. O Stapf
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 2:22 AM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison Chart

I know that the creation of such a tool would take very important dev 
resources, but it would be a
good tool to promote LIbO Writer.

But why to compare with Word 2003? As far as I know a big change has taken 
place with Word 2007 (or
2010?)/


On 2012-11-13 02:27, charles meyer wrote:

Hi Folks,

MS Word has a comparison chart which shows you how to perform certain
tasks in Word compared to how you effect them in WordPerfect.

It's an easy chart to check (and learn) Word if you've been a WordPerfect user.

Ex. Ctrl/F8 will perform a certain task in WordPerfect but that same
task is done with different function key combinations in Word

I was wondering if anyone has come across a similar comparison chart
for Libre Writer and Word, especially Word 2003?

The chart would show how a task is done in Word and then next to it
would reveal how that task is done in Libre Writer.

Thanks so much,

Charles.







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Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison Chart

2012-11-14 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf
Paying special attention to the Styles Chapters is definitely
important; maybe the most important chapters to look at.A guidance for LibO 
beginners could help to move people from MSO to
LibO. I observe that many people are sticking with MSO because with
huge efforts they learned to use MSO (most often just very basics)
and don't want to take an effort to learn something new without a
good guidance.On 2012-11-14 20:38, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi:)I think just working through the Getting Started guide helps
hugely.Pay special attention to the Styles 
chapter.wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/PublicationsI had to help 
someone tidy up a Word document yday and it was a
total Pita.Fortunately they are very unfamiliar with
MS-anything so;1.They didn't do so many of the weirdnesses that people 
learn
to use to really stuff-up their documents and make them
unreadable to everyone that isn't using their system2.There is some 
hope of pushing them straight into using LORegards fromTom :)
From:Dr. R. O 
Stapfreinhold@stapf-online.comTo:users@global.libreoffice.orgSent:Wednesday, 14 
November 2012, 8:00Subject:Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer -
Comparison Chart
When I wrote my comment I was not thinking about the
change of a font, but getting something whichhelps to 
understand how Writer work and a support to
unlearn Word. I am currently struggling withunlearning Word 
and Power Point.On 2012-11-13 22:56, VA wrote:Yes, MS completely redesigned the 
user interface
with Word 2007, so anychart made for Word 2003 could be very 
different
for one made for Word 2007.I'm not sure how effective a chart 
would be, for
LibO and Word, in manyways, just think differently. LibO uses 
not only
paragraph styles but alsopage styles, which is a completely 
foreign concept
to MS. So, it's not justabout hitting a sequence of mouse 
clicks in the
right order; it's aboutrelearning how to create, edit, and 
format
documents. There are typicallyseveral ways to accomplish a 
task, and the LibO
method that is most likeWord may not be the best way to get 
things done. To
get the most out ofLibO, you might find yourself having to
deliberately unlearn Word. To besure, you can find things in 
the Writer menu that
are similar to the Wordmenu, but the power of an office suite 
comes in
learning how the programthinks, which is working at a deeper 
level than
simply selecting a font froma drop-down box, etc.Virgilps. Can 
someone fix the annoying feature of this
list that you must hit reply all to send areply to the list? 
I'm constantly sending out
duplicates of my messages because my first one onlywent to one 
person. No other list I belong to has
that behavior. My apologies to Dr. Stapf for 
thererun.-Original Message- From: Dr. R. O StapfSent: Tuesday, November 
13, 2012 2:22 AMTo:users@global.libreoffice.orgSubject: Re: [libreoffice-users] 
Word 2003 to Libre
Writer - Comparison ChartI know that the creation of such a 
tool would take
very important dev resources, but it would be agood tool to 
promote LIbO Writer.But why to compare with Word 2003? As far as I know
a big change has taken place with Word 2007 (or2010?)/On 
2012-11-13 02:27, charles meyer wrote:Hi Folks,MS Word has a comparison chart 
which shows you
how to perform certaintasks in Word compared to how you effect 
them
in WordPerfect.It's an easy chart to check (and learn) Word if
you've been a WordPerfect user.Ex. Ctrl/F8 will perform a 
certain task in
WordPerfect but that sametask is done with different function 
key
combinations in WordI was wondering if anyone has come across a
similar comparison chartfor Libre Writer and Word, especially 
Word
2003?The chart would show how a task is done in Word
and then next to itwould reveal how that task is done in Libre
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Book Preview button in Print Preview Screen

2012-11-12 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf
Although I am not writing books the feature described by CVAlkan is a very interesting one. 
Especially if the settings could be made on a document base, rather than general.





On 2012-11-12 02:14, CVAlkan wrote:

Just for the record: I'm using Writer 3.6.1.2 on Ubuntu 12.04, but I don't
think either makes a difference.

When using 2-up, the Print Preview screen defaults to showing the first
page on the left. There is a button called Book Preview (just left of the
(+) magnifier button) that permits the display to show the odd-numbered
pages on the left, as in a printed book or other material. This is, of
course, quite useful for reviewing layouts more realistically.

Since that is what I'm creating, I would like to set the Book Preview as
the default for the Print Preview display (yes, I acknowledge my laziness,
but isn't the fact that I use a word processor instead of a typewriter
sufficient proof of that?); it would be even cooler if that display choice
could be set on a per-document basis as well, but I don't want to be too
greedy.

I've searched around, but haven't run across anything that would allow me to
do that. Does anyone know if such a setting exists and, if so, how to set
it?

Otherwise, I guess I'll just toss it in at the bottom of the massive list of
requested enhancements.

Thanks.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison Chart

2012-11-12 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf
I know that the creation of such a tool would take very important dev resources, but it would be a 
good tool to promote LIbO Writer.


But why to compare with Word 2003? As far as I know a big change has taken place with Word 2007 (or 
2010?)/



On 2012-11-13 02:27, charles meyer wrote:

Hi Folks,

MS Word has a comparison chart which shows you how to perform certain
tasks in Word compared to how you effect them in WordPerfect.

It's an easy chart to check (and learn) Word if you've been a WordPerfect user.

Ex. Ctrl/F8 will perform a certain task in WordPerfect but that same
task is done with different function key combinations in Word

I was wondering if anyone has come across a similar comparison chart
for Libre Writer and Word, especially Word 2003?

The chart would show how a task is done in Word and then next to it
would reveal how that task is done in Libre Writer.

Thanks so much,

Charles.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Writer: AutoCorrect language resets and sticks to English after Japanese script is inserted

2012-11-06 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf

I am not sure if my test matches your situation:
I have LibO:
- User interface English
- Asian language: Japanese
- German dictionary installed
- Normally I am using English and Japanese

Test:
- Opened a new writer document, started typing in German.
- The spellchecker showed errors; red wavy lines under words.
- Changed to German (Tools/Language/For all text / German)
- Spellchecker removed red wavy lines under words.
- Switch over to Japanese writing (半角/全角key) and wrote a Japanese sentence (Kanji, hiragana, 
katakana) without any problems. No wavy red lines under the Japanese words.

- Switched back from Japanese (半角/全角key again) and continued writing German.
No wavy red lines under the German words. Thus writer recognized German 
correctly.
- copied Japanese text into clipboard and pasted at the end of the German text (no switching to 
Japanese writing)

- Continued writing German and all is okay.

I am using LibO 3.5.7 on XP / SP3

Hope it gives you a hint.



On 2012-11-06 23:05, Minix wrote:

Good afternoon.

I'm sorry for insisting, but it's been 13 days and I haven't had a single
response, nor were able to fix the issue.

At the very least, is anyone here affected by this problem?

Thank you.

On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 11:11 PM, Minix b...@2dbonsai.com wrote:


Good evening.

I'm running LibreOffice 3.6.2.2 on Windows 7. My default language in
LibreOffice is set to Brazilian Portuguese.

When I'm typing a text in Portuguese and insert Japanese text, the
AutoCorrect changes the language to the following text to English. The text
that has already been typed as Portuguese remains unaffected. I am able to
set the text manually back to Portuguese, but as soon as Japanese text is
typed, the roman script that comes afterward is treated again as English.

Is this a known problem? Do anyone know a solution or workaround that
doesn't require manually changing the language every time?

Thank you.

- Raphael Campos





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Cannot save data ranges in spreadsheet other than with .ods files

2012-11-04 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf

Seems to be a bug. I made a test using XP/SP3 and 3.5.7

Data Range names get lost.

If other it  could be confirmed in 3.6 version, a bug report appears to be the 
we can do.



On 2012-11-05 09:56, Subscriptions wrote:


I'm using LibreOffice 3.5.4.2 Build ID: 350m1(Build:2) on Ubuntu 11.04

When I create a data range and save that range in the ods format,
everything works as expected.

If I save the file as a MS files (xls or xlsx), the range is not saved
(i,e if I save and close, the range has disappeared if I open the file)

Thanks





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[libreoffice-users] bug or missing functionality in Impress/Chart ?

2012-11-04 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf
I wanted to create a chart in Impress
Inserted a chart
Opened the chart data table
So far all fine and as expected

When I wanted to copy data array (2 rows, 5 columns) from Calc into the table, 
the data of the array
selected on copied into the clipboard all get pasted into the cell I selected 
(top left corner)
Even adjusting the chart data table to exactly the size as the original data 
array resulted in all
data in the selected cell in the chart data table.

Is this a bug or a missing functionality in Impress?

The ability to copy and array of data from Calc into the chart data table would 
increase productivity.

XP/SP3 LibO 3..5.7

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Re: [libreoffice-users] export to pdf does not carry over the file name of writer

2012-10-31 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf
I had the bug today again and thought I have the a possible cause
but I could not repeat itClosing LibO did not helpHowever, rebooting 
the PC helped; pdf-export worked again
thereafter..On 2012-10-31 19:33, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)+1The docs team managed to identify a different intermittent bug
and even found a work-around and posted a bug-report.So it
might not take many people here to track down this pdf issue.Sorry i 
can't help with that as my pdfs seem perfect so far :(Ubuntu 12.04, LO 
3.6.1Hmm, i've not created many pdfs from this machine so i will try
to check versions on the other machines when i get into work,
inshalla.Regards fromTom :)
From:Dr. R. O 
Stapfreinhold@stapf-online.comTo:users@global.libreoffice.orgSent:Wednesday, 31 
October 2012, 0:55Subject:Re: [libreoffice-users] export to pdf does not carry
over the file name of writer
Maybe it we all try to identify situation in which the
pdf-export shows empty file name fields, our devs will
get a chance to identify the cause.It would be worth to try 
it.On 2012-10-31 03:52, Jean-Francois Nifenecker wrote:Le 30/10/2012 16:49, 
rost52 acrit :This seems to be a magic problem. It comes and
goes. No chance toreproduce it. I reported a bug and learned 
that
there was a problemreported before. No cure yet.bug 
report:https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56556This one has bit me 
more than once evec since OOo
has supported pdf export. I could never find a common
denominator, though. Sometimes it works as expected,
sometimes it doesn't: the file name is left empty.Anyway, 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] export to pdf does not carry over the file name of writer

2012-10-30 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf
Maybe it we all try to identify situation in which the pdf-export shows empty file name fields, our 
devs will get a chance to identify the cause.

It would be worth to try it.


On 2012-10-31 03:52, Jean-Francois Nifenecker wrote:

Le 30/10/2012 16:49, rost52 a écrit :

This seems to be a magic problem. It comes and goes. No chance to
reproduce it. I reported a bug and learned that there was a problem
reported before. No cure yet.

bug report: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56556



This one has bit me more than once evec since OOo has supported pdf export. I could never find a 
common denominator, though. Sometimes it works as expected, sometimes it doesn't: the file name is 
left empty.


Anyway, thanks for the pointer to the bug report.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] ... not working ...

2012-10-19 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf


On 2012-10-19 22:53, Joel Madero wrote:

On 10/18/2012 11:11 PM, rost52 wrote:
This is a very interesting information. I am not really surprised by the ration indicated here. I 
exepcte finding the cause of a bug takes much more time than final fix. I am grateful to the dev 
because I know myself how difficult it is to find a bug in a complicated SW.


Question: What means:
- bot lists
-FDO
In IRC (chat client) we have automatic robots that routinely (ten's of times a day) say what 
patches have been submitted to gerrit (the service we use to keep our code). Every time a patch is 
submitted the robot (bot) spits out an automated message saying that a person (with a name) has 
submitted a patch and explains what that patch does.


FDO = free desktop . org (f d o). Ans is where you can report bugs pertaining to the libreoffice 
project. If you want to see a list of confirmed bugs look here -- you'll see immediately how 
overwhelmed a small project can get:


https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEWbug_status=ASSIGNEDbug_status=REOPENEDlist_id=147729product=LibreOfficequery_format=advancedorder=opendate%2Cchangeddate%2Cbug_status%2Cpriority%2Cassigned_to%2Cbug_idlimit=0 



That is 3,956 bugs and climbing (there are an additional 1,200 or so that are reported but not 
confirmed yet...the QA team confirms the bugs so developers can focus on coding)



Regards,
Joel


Thanks for the information.

Theh bug list is quiet long Hope we get 100 new devs eager to fix bugs or should I retiere 
earlier and learn C++




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Re: [libreoffice-users] ... not working ...

2012-10-18 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf
I don't mean that a single manager makes all decisions and the team has to follow. The word 
manager could and should be understood also as management team, decision making team, 
leadership, etc.


I am not familiar with the structure of the dev team and decision making processes. Thus, I used 
simply manager. At the end it is the dev team bringing LO forward. Let me repeat myself, but I 
respect these people a lot and I am very grateful for all the work they did and do.



On 18.10.2012 16:44, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
+1
I think that it's precisely because we see so much great development being done that we 
get excited about it and want more.  Also the fact that people can post bug-reports and 
even non-coders opinions do get listened makes us feel like we can off-load.  
So, a lot of the criticisms are not necessarily about LO specifically but about IT in 
general.

ROSt talks about management decisions and hints about those being imposed on a workforce 
because that's the easier way for most of us on the Users List to understand it.  I 
suspect that most of us either do now or have at some point worked in traditional offices 
in mainstream management structures.  In LO i imagine the equivalent is leadership rather 
than management.  Inspiration and initiative rather than just following 
orders.  Personal investment and interest in achieving goals.  It is leading to 
some impressive results.

Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Thu, 18/10/12, rost52 bugquestcon...@online.de wrote:

From: rost52 bugquestcon...@online.de
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] ... not working ...
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Thursday, 18 October, 2012, 7:44

Hi Joel,

I think nobody blames the dev team for not working enough; in contrast all 
appreciate the work done by the dev team, being it new features or bug fixes.

For my understanding the concerns and opinions expressed here are more related 
to the ratio of devs being allocate to new features versus bug fixes. I think 
most of us also understand that first the number of devs is limited, and second 
the decision on how many devs on new features and how many on bug fixes is not 
an easy one. It is a management decisions, which can turn out right or wrong. 
And for management decisions one needs a lot of information. Speaking for 
myself I would regard these comments as additional information.

In this sense, please regard the messages in this forum as additional 
information, which could.should help decision makers to make decisions. And 
should a decision turn out to be wrong, there is no problem in changing course. 
The worst thing a manager can do is, not to make a decision. Without decision 
there is no change to the situation and thus no chance for improvement.

Let me thank here again all devs doing great jobs in developing and improving 
LO.

ROSt

Maybe I take C++ classes when I retire LO would be worth to do.




On 18.10.2012 14:36, Joel Madero wrote:

Let alone regressions which are just accepted as a part of software development. Ultimately, 
mistakes happen, and when a software code base has been transferred left and right and had a 
ton of people randomly working on it (which is exactly what happens with open source 
software), a lot of the job of a developer coming onto the project is just playing 
catch up and guessing and what a previous developer was attempting to do. Again, 
I highly suggest taking a few C++ classes and then it'll become apparent that the idea that 
we should stop everything and get every single bug squashed (5,000), is not a realistic 
stance. We should and we are (I guarantee this) doing everything in our power to prioritize 
bugs and take care of those bugs that are

a) most annoying

b) affecting the most users

c) resulting in data loss

We are a young project and this is a goal that has been set. Being young, this 
is a goal, not a fact. If you're interested in seeing how much work is done on 
a daily basis, just follow gerrit (our code tracker), or sit in IRC and look at 
the incredibly brilliant conversations that happen to find solutions to many of 
the problems that are being reported.

Just to give another point, we are averaging more than 5 new reports PER DAY. 
Our QA team is a group of volunteers no more than 7 or 8 strong. Each of these 
bugs has to go through a long process just to verify, ensure that it's not a 
duplicate, communicate with the user who reported it, and then priortize it. 
That's JUST getting the bug confirmed, then it gets put into the stack where a 
very small group of dedicated developers tackle them, one by one. A single bug 
can take a week + to tackle (that's 40+ hours). Let's say the average bug takes 
10 hours (a massive understatement), that's 50,000 hours worth of work to 
tackle the 5,000 or so confirmed bugs.

Seeing these off hand remarks about how we should develop the product is 
disheartening. I wish that more people would take a class at their local 
community college, or take a 

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO?

2012-10-17 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf


On 17.10.2012 12:38, Jay Lozier wrote:

On 10/16/2012 09:12 PM, rost52 wrote:

I attended last week a seminar on the the legal situation with social
networks. The presenting US lawyer mentioned that even in the US
asking for FB passwords is illegal.


On 16.10.2012 22:59, Jay Lozier wrote:

   Anyone asking for my Facebook password in a job interview is
out of luck; I do not know it because I use a password manager and each
password I use is generated per account



It has not stopped people from asking in a job interview. In most US
states it is no explicitly illegal nor is it explicitly illegal in US
Federal law. A couple of counter arguments would be: Do you really want
me to violate my contract with Facebook?, or Do you realize you are
asking me to violate one the most basic tenets of computer security;
never reveal your log in credentials to anyone? The first implies that
they will ask you to potentially violate a contract or, worse, the law.
The second implies they are stupid and are very cavalier about
protecting corporate assets.

Under US labor law asking the question potentially allows the employer
to find out information that they can not legally ask in an interview.
This is the primary legal challenge to the question that is an implicit
illegal question by the employer.

I can truthfully say I do not know my Facebook or virtually any other
password because I use a password manager to generate and store them.
And I am not in the habit of carrying the file and the manager around on
a USB stick.

Great ways out of troubles! Thanks.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO?

2012-10-17 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf
I meant xls files in MS EXCEL 2003 when I wrote about the short times needed to open them. I 
protected them against opening.


I never tested a LO file so far - hope I never have to!!!
Here are some links I checked, however I don't recall what was the result for each link. Most of the 
links I deleted. I just searched for password remove excel


http://www.password-changer.com/
http://www.lostpassword.com/windows.htm
http://www.unprotect-excel.com/
http://www.passwordlastic.com/excel-password-recovery-lastic
http://www.petri.co.il/excel-password-recovery.htm
http://www.freewordexcelpassword.com/
http://www.straxx.com/free-excel-password-remover-2012/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lycQn5a3bPo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ik-LfgDwh8I



On 17.10.2012 13:05, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:

If you're talking about files with protections, minutes is on the long side.  
It is trivial to remove protections.

If you're talking about Libre Office files created by Save As ... | Save with 
Password options, I would like to know who is claiming they can do that in any 
reasonable time.

There are some older forms of Microsoft Word save with password that are easy 
to crack.  Not newer ones though.

Although I have concerns about the quality of the encryption used in ODF 
documents (what Save As ... | Save with Password uses), I don't think you're 
going to find any commodity software that is able to crack those in any 
feasible time period.

If there is, that needs to be widely known.

Care to share any links?

  - Dennis
  
-Original Message-

From: rost52 [mailto:bugquestcon...@online.de]
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 19:07
To: dennis.hamil...@acm.org
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO?

Dennis,
When I am reading your long and excellent explanation, I wonder again how some 
PW removing tools,
which offer a demo with opening the file or showing the PW removed, can claim 
that the file could be
open within a few seconds to a minute?


[ ... ]





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Indexing for Search not working?

2012-10-17 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf


On 17.10.2012 16:07, Pertti Rönnberg wrote:

BRAVO Anne-Ology!!
Exactly that message - only in other words -- I have repeatedly tried to tell to the LibO-experts 
(devs) since January:
they must take a brake in developing and take a certain version (e.g. 3.4.xx) and make every 
module of the suite - Base included - absolutely free of bugs and inconsistencies both in 
programming and the instructions and especially the LibO-Help.
Every feature shall have a clear explanation and a detailed guiding how-to in the LibO-Help -- 
easily understood by any average non-expert user. 


I cannot agree more.
I started with 3.5.4 a few month ago and saw some problems disappearing in  3.5.5 and 3.5.6. 
Currently I am hesitating to upgrade to 3.5.7.

I hope the dev-team listens to Pertti's words.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Indexing for Search not working?

2012-10-17 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf
It's not falling behind in development. It's about stability and
this means productivity.It's like placing an always stronger engine in an 
F1 car without
considering to get the power on the road. What means the best engine
when the suspension is not strong enough. With other words I feel I
spent a lot of time in this forum which are reducing my productivity
time. I don't mind being in the forum because there are nice people
here and I like to read the various opinions.)I don't know how many devs 
are working on new functions and how many
on bug fixes. It would just be good to change for a certain time the
ratio of devs working on bugs.Do we want it or not we are compared against 
MSO. But in MSO we
don't know the bugs MS neglects them.On 17.10.2012 17:07, Tom Davies 
wrote:
Hi :)Ok, so we should just get rid of or push away any devs
  that are interested in adding new functionality.There
  are a lot of other projects they could go to for that sort
  of excitement.We could build-up a strong core of devs
  that focus only on fixing things that already exist.Get
  rid of any that have too much imagination.We could watch and wait 
while other Office Suites develop
  new functionality and then try to catch up and try to
  write code to do the same thing but without the code
  looking too similar.They would set the format and the
  way things should look and we just try to copy exactly
  without looking too similar.Let our competitors do the driving 
and just gradually fall
  further and further back?!!??Alternatively we could try to help 
all our devs by test
  driving the new branch asap.Seek out 'bugs' or anything
  vaguely wonky.Post bug reports.Find work-arounds.Fall back on the 
more stable release from the older branch
  (we can have 2 versions installed at once right?) for when
  we need to meet deadlines.The question is do we want LO to fall 
behind and become
  increasingly irrelevant or are we ready to help push out
  into the world?Do we want LO to keep going in the future
  or are we happy to be forced into switching back to MSO
  one day?Regards fromTom :)--- OnWed, 17/10/12, Dr. R. O 
Stapfreinhold@stapf-online.comwrote:From: Dr. R. O 
Stapfreinhold@stapf-online.comSubject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Indexing for 
Search not
working?To:users@global.libreoffice.orgDate: Wednesday, 17 
October, 2012, 8:44On 17.10.2012 16:07, Pertti Rnnberg wrote:BRAVO 
Anne-Ology!!Exactly that message - only in other words -- I
  have repeatedly tried to tell to the LibO-experts
  (devs) since January:they must take a brake in developing and 
take a
  certain version (e.g. 3.4.xx) and make every module of
  the suite - Base included - absolutely free of bugs
  and inconsistencies both in programming and the
  instructions and especially the LibO-Help.Every feature shall 
have a clear explanation and
  a detailed guiding how-to in the LibO-Help -- easily
  understood by any average non-expert user.I cannot agree 
more.I started with 3.5.4 a few month ago and saw some
  problems disappearing in3.5.5 and 3.5.6. Currently I
  am hesitating to upgrade to 3.5.7.I hope the dev-team listens 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Indexing for Search not working?

2012-10-17 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf
Yes, I think we both (and I am sure that there are many more) want the same thing: LO being 
successful and known as the best Office package and available also for people who just cannot afford 
to buy an Office package.


I also understand that devs are easier to get for programming new features because this frontier 
work. I can understand this very well because I used to work on frontier work myself for many years.


However, I also learned that things must be made stable. My business now is nothing else but making 
operations stable. Coming from that point of view I only can encourage devs to put in all their 
pride in getting LO branches stable ASAP. I feel good when I get an operation stable and a dev can 
feel the same way. It might even be harder to get bugs out because it must first be understood what 
causes the bug.


If I would learn about a dev who removed a bug I reported, I thank him personally! (If there is a 
list where I can see it, I appreciate a lot information on where such a list is published on the web.)


I can not contribute more than bug reporting. I do this for all bugs I find and which I can document 
somehow. It takes me a lot of time - a loss in my productivity - but I am willing to do so. My small 
contribution to the LO project which I like. Currently I only can do this for my production version 
(3.5.6.2). But I would actually like to run 2 versions on my PC: a stable one with almost no bugs, 
and a newer one with new features and bugs. (This idea was expressed already by Tom, anne-ology and 
maybe some other as well.) By doing so I can use time for searching bugs in the newer version, and 
when I am very busy (= I need a high productivity) I can just use the stable version. For me such a 
possibility would push the LO project forward at very high speed.


The success of SW is a combination of features and stability (= productivity increase). This means 
the right balance is needed. The right balance of dev power for new feature compared to dev power to 
fix bugs is the trick task which need to be done.




On 17.10.2012 18:51, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
I think we both want the same thing.  The question is how to get it.

1.  How to encourage new devs to join?  At the moment we show LO as an exciting 
projects for devs to get involved with and quickly see the results of their 
work getting out there into the real world.  As a result they are likely to get 
into fixing any unexpected problems or side-issues that might have cropped up.

2.  We need a stable branch where new stuff never gets added, just fixes 
back-ported from the newer, more exciting branch.

That is pretty much what we have already.  By the time the newer branch reaches 
around .4 then it's usually stable enough for everyone = about as stable as the 
.6 or .7 of the older branch but with better compatibility with non-native 
formats and some interesting things.

If some of us helped the devs more by posting bug-reports earlier then we might 
be able to help them push that stability in earlier.  We might start finding 
the 3. or even the .2 starts to be the one stable enough to migrate our 
colleagues and co-workers to as well as ourselves instead of having to wait for 
the .4.

It's on us more than the devs.  They are working hard and need our support 
rather than our criticism.  Do we want to push devs away unless they only get 
involved with boring dry stuff and no reward, no chance of showing off prowess, 
no chance of getting recognition out there?

I like people in here too.  I also enjoy arguing with people i like and respect 
that have a good point of view and a good way of looking at the world.  I 
usually take good points from here and then argue in favour of them on the 
marketing list because you have very valid points here.

We do need an LTS because these frequent upgrades and uncertainty are just not 
possible when you have more than a handful of computers to maintain or have 
limited download, or   Well, tons of valid reasons
Regards from
Tom :)



--- On Wed, 17/10/12, Dr. R. O Stapf reinh...@stapf-online.com wrote:

From: Dr. R. O Stapf reinh...@stapf-online.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Indexing for Search not working?
To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Wednesday, 17 October, 2012, 9:42

It's not falling behind in development. It's about stability and
 this means productivity.It's like placing an always stronger engine in an 
F1 car without
 considering to get the power on the road. What means the best engine
 when the suspension is not strong enough. With other words I feel I
 spent a lot of time in this forum which are reducing my productivity
 time. I don't mind being in the forum because there are nice people
 here and I like to read the various opinions.)I don't know how many devs 
are working on new functions and how many
 on bug fixes. It would just be good to change for a certain time the
 ratio

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO?

2012-10-16 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf

you are perfectly right about this!!!


On 16.10.2012 22:22, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote:
Unless you have a lot of time to kill (days, weeks, months, etc), you are much better off not 
forgetting your password.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO?

2012-10-15 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf


On 15.10.2012 23:11, Andreas Säger wrote:

Am 15.10.2012 15:49, rost52 wrote:

LO files can be protected with PWs when doing save as.
Fighting currently with an xls file and its lost PW, I wonder how LO files can 
be cracked? Can the
MS related PW remover be used for LO as well?
Thanks in advance for comments.




xls does not encript your document. The only thing that gets encrypted
is the password. Any old version of OpenOffice.org opens a password
protected xls ignoring the password.
Thanks for the information. It seems that my version of LO 3.5.6.2 is too young to ignore the PW of 
an xls file.


However, my question was how to open an LO file if the PW get forgotten (not 
and MS file)?
Hints are welcome for the future.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO?

2012-10-15 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf


On 15.10.2012 23:46, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote:

Le 15/10/2012 16:30, Dr. R. O Stapf a écrit :

[...]

However, my question was how to open an LO file if the PW get
forgotten (not and MS file)?
Hints are welcome for the future.

Buy a super-computer, launch a brute force algorithm and pray that the
password is a short word from the standard English vocabulary.


Best regards.
JBF

Thanks to JBF and Andreas for their hints. As I have a little program which makes brute force 
approach I will run a test to see if this is possible with PW protected LO files.





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO?

2012-10-15 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf


On 16.10.2012 02:14, MR ZenWiz wrote:

On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 7:30 AM, Ledger Consulting
t...@theledgerfirm.com wrote:

gvfe ..dtnd e eeir2


What?


encrypted message - problem is that I cannot understand it.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO?

2012-10-15 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf





On 16.10.2012 03:32, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
The trick is to try to remember what you might have been thinking about at the 
time.  If that's even possible for anyone!

There is no password cracking functionality or Extension for LO it's just the 
inept way MS fails to implement security.  Just double-click on an xls or open 
LO and drop the xls into it or open LO and choose
File - Open
to navigate to and open the xls.  File opens.

My company's finance department asked me to add something to one of their 
spreadsheets but 'forgot' to tell me the password.  One of them rushed down to 
give me the password but was somewhat mortified to find i had already made the 
change without having the slightest idea that there even was a password.  There 
was a very cofusing conversation where neither of us had a clue what the other 
was talking about until i figured it out.

The company still uses Excel and still attempts to 'protect' those spreadsheets 
with passwords that don't work.  Occasionally people give me other files they 
want cracked which gives me a morale dilemma each time.  Usually i just give a 
really half-hearted non-effort and then fob them off.
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Mon, 15/10/12, Dr. R. O Stapf reinh...@stapf-online.com wrote:

From: Dr. R. O Stapf reinh...@stapf-online.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO?
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Monday, 15 October, 2012, 15:30


On 15.10.2012 23:11, Andreas Säger wrote:

Am 15.10.2012 15:49, rost52 wrote:

LO files can be protected with PWs when doing save as.
Fighting currently with an xls file and its lost PW, I wonder how LO files can 
be cracked? Can the
MS related PW remover be used for LO as well?
Thanks in advance for comments.



xls does not encript your document. The only thing that gets encrypted
is the password. Any old version of OpenOffice.org opens a password
protected xls ignoring the password.

Thanks for the information. It seems that my version of LO 3.5.6.2 is too young 
to ignore the PW of
an xls file.

However, my question was how to open an LO file if the PW get forgotten (not 
and MS file)?
Hints are welcome for the future.



Thanks to all of you providing me with lots of hints on not to forget passwords or prepare in 
advance for it.
The SW I am using to crack an xls-file runs already for more than 60 h in the background. It's a 
nothing to loose only to win job. 6 or 8 digits alphanumeric no special characters is the PW used.


Thereafter I will make a test cracking an LO file.

The only thing which makes me wonder is that there are PW removing SW commercially availabe which 
run demos and claim within 10 - 30 sec they could remove the PW but open the xls file only when I 
purchase a full license.


Does someone has experience with such a SW?


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO?

2012-10-15 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf


On 16.10.2012 09:40, Jean-Louis Oneto wrote:

I used the following:
http://www.crackpdf.com/
but not the Pro version which allows to make brute force attack, but then, they warn you that it 
will take _a_long_time_ !!!
To remove simple protections, it was really fast, but they unlock the file without retrieving the 
password (or at least they don't display it)

Reards,
Jean-Louis 


Jean-Louis, thanks for the hint and link!




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice in MacWorld Australia

2012-10-14 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf
I did not want to express it that explicitly what you wrote is
perfectly right.I am often wondering why some members of this forum 
complain so much
about LO instead of exchanging information in
non-inflicting-feelings-of-others words, which help other users to
solve their problems and/or help to move LO's development forward.On 
15.10.2012 07:48, anne-ology wrote:
MSFT does not list their bugs; they deny them;-(On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 10:28 
PM, Dr. R.
O Stapfreinhold@stapf-online.comwrote:I have my
  still my doubts on graphics, but all the other remarks of Tom
  I fully agree.By the way is there a list of MSO bugs we can have a 
look at?
  I doubt!On 14.10.2012 10:39, anne-ology wrote:same here.On Thu, Oct 
11, 2012 at 8:27 PM, Tom daviestomdavie...@yahoo.co.ukwrote:Hi :)I prefer LO on 
Windows even though i have a choice of
  MSO 2007 and 2010 onthe same machine.All 3 installed but LO 
handles
  graphics better.Plus itdoesn't keep changing styles, 
languages, indentations,
  size ofbullet-points and it keeps track of numbers better in
  numbered lists.Alsobetter compatibility.Each version of MSO 
stuffs up
  documents created bythe other.If i write in LO then save as 
doc then
  both versions of MSOdisplay the file the same way.I find the 
menus
  easier although somethings are just as easy on both.Regards 
fromTom :)From: Andreas 
sgerville...@t-online.deto:users@global.libreoffice.orgSent: Thursday, 11 
October 2012, 23:48Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice in
MacWorld AustraliaAm 11.10.2012 20:46, 
webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:It is nice to see that MacWorld Australia states
  that LibreOffice is amust have app/package. I wonder if 
the MacWorld
  for the USA and Europewould have the same statement.Be 
nice to have LO listed in the must have
  category in the variousWindows magazines. We could use 
more Windows
  users, and freeadvertisements towards Windows users, as 
we can
  get.It would be nice to have a booth in a Windows
  version of the bigsoftware shows that happen for Linux 
and Mac. But
  those booths may bevery expensive to rent for such an 
event.Windows users can run MS Office easily and for
little money (if any).Why should they use LibreOffice if 
all they want is
cheap MS Office?Idealism? Masochism?




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: From MS Word to Writer: keeping my styles, macros, toolbars from Normal.dot

2012-10-13 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf


On 12.10.2012 01:36, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:

On 11/10/12 13:27, Andreas Säger wrote:


This is not a free clone of some other program. All it can do is loading
.doc files fairly well. Please switch to this software or stay with WinWord.


And with that attitude on a help list, LO is never likely to become any sort of threat to MS 
Office, is it?



I also would like to comment on the All it can do is loading .doc files fairly 
well..
I entirely switch over to LO and find especially Writer better than Word. The styles-functionality 
in Writer is great. About 2 years ago I had to put a master thesis in the right format and it was a 
nightmare and a huge workload in WORD. In Writer I assume I could have done it in a fraction of the 
time and without much headaches.
What want to say is it would be nice if users of LO, who do not understand ALL the features and 
functionality of LO AND MSO are be careful with such negative statements. However if there are bugs 
or requests for new features, they should be expressed and reported. This helps LO to become more known.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Problem happen when import text with Chinese

2012-10-13 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf
I made a test I did before (maybetooo long time before) and
reported today a bugBug55954-EDITING: copypaste issues
- Japanese text from writer into calcWhat I remember from my previous 
test( I used LO 3.5.4 or 3.5.5)is thatI got what is called in Japanese 
mojibake and can be
imaged as wingding symbols, thus unreadable characters. This
time with LO 3.5.6.2 at least all characters where correct.For Scott to 
compare what I did in the test with what he did
during his import process here the bug report:beginProblem
description:copypaste of Japanese text from writer to calc shows
inconsistency
opf the paste results depending on the paste methode (pasting
directly into cells or pasting into the input line). Details are
to
be seen in the attached files.
Steps
  to reproduce:


1.
  copy a Japanese text in writer


2.
  paste directly into a cell in calc creates a too small font
  neither
  matching the font in writer nor default in calc, color is
  black


3.
  paste into the input line creates the same font result but
  color is
  gray.


4.
  when increasing the font size in calc overlapping of Japanese
  characters occure depending on the width of the column (this
  can be
  seen in the attached calc sheet when changing the column
  width)


Current
  behavior:As
  described aboveThe
  same issue should appear with all double byte word languages
  (Japanese, Chinese, Korean, Thai etc...)


Expected
  behavior:when
  pasting Japanese from writer into calc the font should be as
  in
  writer or as the default font in calc (type, size, color)




Platform
  (if different from the browser):


LO
  3.5.6.2 / XP SP3




Browser:
  Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:16.0) Gecko/20100101
  Firefox/16.0end
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@page { margin: 2cm }
P { margin-bottom: 0.21cm }
--On 11.10.2012 23:26, scott0711 wrote:
Thanks Tom:


  Ihe picture which i posted was made this afternoon, Taiwan time. Maybe i
did not explain it clearly.
The Libeoffice version is 3.6.2, and the encoding of Chinese is utf-8. No
matter is utf-8, unicode, big5 it happens the same.


oh, Import file means open a text file, and set delimiter of fixed width
column.


// Scott




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice in MacWorld Australia

2012-10-13 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf

I have my still my doubts on graphics, but all the other remarks of Tom I fully 
agree.

By the way is there a list of MSO bugs we can have a look at? I doubt!

On 14.10.2012 10:39, anne-ology wrote:

same here.



On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 8:27 PM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

Hi :)

I prefer LO on Windows even though i have a choice of MSO 2007 and 2010 on
the same machine.  All 3 installed but LO handles graphics better.  Plus it
doesn't keep changing styles, languages, indentations, size of
bullet-points and it keeps track of numbers better in numbered lists.  Also
better compatibility.  Each version of MSO stuffs up documents created by
the other.  If i write in LO then save as doc then both versions of MSO
display the file the same way.  I find the menus easier although some
things are just as easy on both.
Regards from
Tom :)





From: Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Thursday, 11 October 2012, 23:48
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice in MacWorld Australia

Am 11.10.2012 20:46, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:

It is nice to see that MacWorld Australia states that LibreOffice is a
must have app/package. I wonder if the MacWorld for the USA and Europe
would have the same statement.

Be nice to have LO listed in the must have category in the various
Windows magazines. We could use more Windows users, and free
advertisements towards Windows users, as we can get.

It would be nice to have a booth in a Windows version of the big
software shows that happen for Linux and Mac. But those booths may be
very expensive to rent for such an event.


Windows users can run MS Office easily and for little money (if any).
Why should they use LibreOffice if all they want is cheap MS Office?
Idealism? Masochism?





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem happen when import text with Chinese

2012-10-11 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf
There was recently a thread with Japanese in Calc. Have a look in the nabble mail. Maybe there is a 
solution.
If I am not completely mistaken I made a test with Japanese in Calc myself but don't recall if I 
reported a bug or not.


import means copy and paste from another application like Writer, correct?

On 11.10.2012 16:29, scott0711 wrote:

Dear All:

 When import text with Chinese in Calc , the Chinese will overlap with
others as picture attached.
Is there any method to avoid ? or this is a bug.

 i found
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4012628/screenshot_145.bmp  an
company claim they had fix this on http://blog.openoffice.com.tw/?p=100

Thanks for your help  time. :)

Regards from
Scott



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc question - paste special

2012-10-09 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf


On 2012-10-10 00:54, Jay Lozier wrote:

On 10/09/2012 04:44 AM, IGraham wrote:

Hello
A Calc question
I have a grid of cells 7x20, one row for each day of the week, cells may
contain no data today
Daily I update the relevant cells
I want to copy and paste this grid to another sheet in the same book
I select grid and copy, go to other sheet right click a cell, select paste
special, click 'paste all' and 'link'
The contents of the cells are pasted as links, but only the cells that have
content, blank cells do not contain the link
Would be nice if all the cells were linked as daily I have to recopy/paste
Am I doing something wrong or is that the way it works

Thanks for any help




-
IGraham

W764  LibreOffice 3.5.2.2
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If A1 has a string (Sunday) the try =if(len(a1)0,,). This will put any 
empty string in the cell whether the expression evaluates to true or false.

An alternative would be to go to the target sheet, click the target cell for the most top left cell 
and enter = and than go the original sheet, most top left cell, click the cell and enter. Thus, 
the target cell is linked to the original cell. Copy and paste the formula in the target cell to the 
number of rows and columns you need and all cells are linked to the original cells.


The Calc behavior as you describe it is for me a severe bug. Copy, paste and link should link also 
empty cells because it could be possible that the once empty cells could be filled and then the 
linked content would be wrong.

I encourage you to report this bug.
https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/bug/

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: MS raised prices so people will now start renting their office products instead

2012-10-09 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf


On 2012-10-09 18:24, John Clegg wrote:

Forgive me, but I thought one of the aims of LO was improvements to
usability. I open emails mailed to me dozens of times a day. Doing Save-As,
or clicking the edit button takes little time I agree, but why is it so
wrong to desire that as the default to save me time?
Now please forgive me but I feel that especially the explanations by Andreas pointed out very 
clearly that r/w features of a file attached to a mail is caused by the email SW.  This means, your 
request needs to be brought into a discussion forum for email SW.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] MS problems

2012-10-06 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf
I think the market share of MSO has nothing to do with the users being idiots or not. The 90% share 
is caused by 3 things

1 - When you buy a PC you often get the MSO already pre-installed
2 - Not many people know about alternatives. I only learned about OO and LO from my brother who is a 
IT wizard. While talking to people about me utilization of LO I am always experiecing that almost  
all people do not know about OO or LO or other packages.
3 - Many IT departments in companies choose MSO because it is easily available and they consider the 
support as good. Keep in mind that introduction of an alternative suit requires a lot of testing in 
an IT department. The suit must be stable and keep productivity high.


If my above statements are wrong, then I am happy because I converted from MSO to LO, thus from an 
idiot to something else...



On 2012-10-06 01:12, Wolfgang Keller wrote:

If MSO is a 90% market leader all its users cannot be complete idiots.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] name of pdf export

2012-10-06 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf


On 2012-10-05 21:15, Brian Barker wrote:

At 19:55 05/10/2012 +0900, Nobody Noname wrote:
When I export an LO file to pdf, I would like that the original file name is automatically 
transferred to become the pdf-file name. As I cannot find any information in the LO documentation 
I ask you to please give me a hint how this can be done.


If you mean the PDF file name, this appears to happen normally - though perhaps not invariably.  
If you mean the PDF file title - which appears at the head of the window in Adobe Reader, for 
example - go to File | Properties... | Description | Title, and enter your desired title (which 
can be the same as the file name) there.  I often copy the file name from the General tab to the 
Description tab and edit off the extension.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


I mean the file name.
But thanks for your comment that utilization of the original file name as the file name for the 
pdf-file happens normally. This is what I had in mind. But because this did not work anymore, I 
thought I changed a setting somewhere without intention and started searching...

Triggerd by your comment I did a test with a WRITER file and it works again 
Magic or a bug


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Re: [libreoffice-users] need help applying standard layouts to master pages.

2012-09-28 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf

I understand now Alessandro's situation - at least I assume.

I also had the same problem when I created my own template - and still have for next templates I 
need to make. I wanted to have a title master and 1 slide master.


The master view allows currently only 1 master layout (title, content). Using this I could create my 
own  kind of  title master, however it is not very good and rather cumbersome to make.


Therefore I also would appreciate if master slides could have at least a proper title slide layout. 
From my point of view this would be sufficient. However, a few more to mach Alessandro would be 
better and easier to work with.


If Dan could take such and enhancement request to the dev-team I appreciate 
this a lot..

On 2012-09-28 01:56, Alessandro Ghidotti Piovan wrote:

Hello Dan,
thank you for your attention.
I'll try to indicate the layout I want to apply with a (row,column) index, because i don't know 
the actual layouts' names.

I suppose the layouts on the task pane are organized in two columns and many 
rows.
This is what i'm trying to obtain:

slide master 1 (i.e. title master) = layout(3,2) with vertically resized text box (i.e. the 
title), 0 fields, 4 text boxes with fixed text around the title (1 above and 3 below).

slide master 2 (i.e. summary) = default layout(2,1)
silde master 3 (i.e. 2-columns image and text) = layout(4,1) with horizontally resized right box 
to half of the slide width
silde master 4 (i.e. standard text master) = layout(1,2) with left-aligned text and no bulleted 
lists.


You said:
But what you can do is to use the tools in the toolbars to create layouts that match the default 
layouts. It takes more time than just clicking one of the default layouts. 
My problem is the text inside will be fixed, while i'd want to be able to apply a template to a 
style-empty (white) presentation.
In other words, suppose to create a presentation with default layouts but with no theme: it is 
substantially white with some images and unformatted text.
Then, my wish is to be able to apply to every type of slide the corresponding slide template 
(i.e. master slide or slide master or master page).

I don't understand how to achieve this with default tools.
Could you be more explicit, please?

Thank you in advance.


On 27/09/2012 18:07, Dan Lewis wrote:

On 09/27/2012 06:27 AM, Alessandro Ghidotti Piovan wrote:

Hello all,
I'm trying to create a template which has 4 slide master:

1) a title master
2) a summary master
3) a two-columns image and text master
4) a standard text master.

To design the template, I tried to add 4 slide masters each with a custom 
layout.
The problem is that it seems I can't apply the default layouts to the slide 
masters.
The only one which is accepted is the one with a title header and a text area 
with bullets list.

Can you help me to define a template containing a full set of masters for every kind of slide 
i'm going to present?

Thank you in advance

 Please tell me what you want to have in each of the 4 slide masters you listed. This might 
help me to make some suggestions later in the form of a  short presentation. Specifically, I'm 
interested in the layout for each master slide. Also, what default layouts do you want to apply 
to each of these master slides?
 There can be some confusion about slide masters. There are three terms that are used 
interchangeable: slide master, master side, and master page.
 When modifying a master slide, you can't directly apply default layouts to it. (You have 
already discovered this.) But what you can do is to use the tools in the toolbars to create 
layouts that match the default layouts. It takes more time than just clicking one of the default 
layouts.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Loosing chart on exporting ods to xls

2012-09-28 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf

Reading the thread again I understand
Vytas' problem is that he loost the chart completely. I did not loose the chart by converting from 
ods to xls but lost the functionality. This means I could not change in the xls chart and could not 
change layout of the chart in the xls version


I feel it would make LO Calc more attractive to new users if the chart functionalities of ods could 
all be converted into xls or even better into xlsx.



On 2012-09-28 00:49, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
No, and i doubt it's going to be easy to ask for help from the MS world.  There 
might be a few that know how to edit the Xml files inside the XlsX container 
but trying to get those people to help or even finding them could prove to be 
difficult!

Can you not just export as Pdfs?  They wouldn't be editable but if they need to 
be edited it could be given as a good reason for your recipients or colleagues 
to install LO alongside MS Office.  There are, inevitably, good advantages to 
each.  I have both even though i often slate the MS one and tend to avoid it 
where possible.

Apols and regards from
Tom :)







From: rost52 bugquestcon...@online.de
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Wednesday, 26 September 2012, 14:45
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Loosing chart on exporting ods  to xls

I am afraid that it is not possible to convert ods charts into xls charts. I 
observed this effect several times.

Does someone has experience with xlsx files?

I am running LO  3.5.6.2 on XP SP3


On 2012-09-27 02:36, Vytas wrote:

Hi,

I have an ods spreadsheet in which I have a simple line chart. When I convert 
it to a xls file all the data gets exported however the chart is missing.  Is 
there something special I need to do with the Chart so that it gets retained in 
the xls file? Providing client with a PDF is not an option as they need to be 
able to manipulate the data.

I am working on a computer running Windows XP an using LibreOffice Version 
3.4.4.

Thanks,

Vytas



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Impress - Blink animation doesn't work

2012-09-28 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf


On 2012-09-28 23:56, Regina Henschel wrote:

Hi,

rost52 schrieb:

Hi, I observe the same bug.

Settings
Entry: Appear on click
Emphasis: Blink after previous 3 times

Result
All works but only 1 blink independed of the number of blinks set

LO 3.5.6.2  XP SP3

Have not yet reported this bug


It is said to be fixed with
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50833
but I have not tested it yet.

Kind regards
Regina


Unfortunately it is still there. As the bug assitant does not work (at least not for me) I even 
can't report it and attach a demo file which I created already. Maybe someone else can try to report 
the bug and leave a note here.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Multiply values BEFORE summing

2012-09-27 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf

I am not sure if I understand sufficiently good what you try to achieve.
Could this be a solution

colum A  . colum H create a new colum (a*h) and then sum up.

If this is not the solution it might be a good idea to express in normal mathematical formulas and 
words what you want to achieve. This could make a translation into Calc formulas possible/easier.


On 2012-09-28 04:58, Vytas wrote:

Hi,

I have about 2453 records for which I require to sum numerous columns ie. A * 
H, A* I , A*J 

The following equation will sum the values of each column [=SUM($H$2:$H$2453)].  Is there a way I 
can multiply the summation column by the corresponding  column A value for each record?  What I am 
trying to avoid is creating another sheet which multiplies the values before summing.


In pseudo code what I want is  =SUM($A$2*$H$2:$A$2453*$H$2453) which 
unfortunately does not work.

A  H   I JK L   M
2.5926.6427.3127.9828.6529.3229.99
2.2918.2618.8119.3619.9120.4621.01

Windows XP
LibreOffice 3.4.4

Thanks,

Vytas




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Re: [libreoffice-users] custom shows within a slide show - impress

2012-09-26 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf

As promised here the information on how I created a work-around.

Copied slides for custom shows into a special section of the presentation after the last slide of 
the main presentation.

Created a text (name of a custom show) and used interaction with go to page.
Used slide 1 of the custom show as target.
At the last slide of the custom show I added the text return. Using interaction go to page and 
jumped back to the page from where I started the custom show.


Disadvantage against MSO:
- One needs to create an interaction to return; in MSO one can just flag return 
to start (or similar)
- The slide from which one jumps to the custom show will start from the 
beginning.

I just hope that there is an enhancement in the near future.


On 2012-09-12 14:24, Dr. R. O Stapf wrote:

@ anne-ology

Thanks for the hints

'hiding' is not an option as I want to stay in presentation mode

Using your URL approach could be a possible work around,  I was thinking in the meantime about 
using 'interaction' and do a similar thing. Need to some testing and will post the result. It 
might take me a few days.


On 2012-09-11 02:37, anne-ology wrote:

Have you considered 'hiding' these slides -- if you wish to have
them seen, just click on 'show' these -
if they're not desired, the presentation will skip over them;
or
insert a URL which, when you click it, would send you to these
slides - when you wish to return to the main show, click on the URL within
this sub-show -

Hoping this helps,



On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 1:52 AM, Dr. R. O Stapf reinh...@stapf-online.comwrote:

Hi and thanks for the first reply.

I intend to show the custom show depending on the discussion in my (main)
presentation.
Imagine following sequence:
- In my presentation I am showing slide N,
- Because and only because of the discussion I want to show 2 slides
additionally and then return to my slide N. (I grouped these 2 slides in a
custom show and call it CustShow.)
- Now I want to click on text or button to open the CustShow.
- After the last slide of the CustShow I want to show again slide N of the
(main) presentation.

I keep the slides for my custom shows at the end of my main presentation
in a section I call LinkedSlides

In Impress I looked into interaction and hyperlink but could not find
a way to show CustShow and return to my slide N from where I wanted to
branch.

Let me please also explain what I did in In MS PowerPoint:before I
switched over to LO
- created a custom show
- created a text box or button at the slide from where I wanted to start
the custom show
- hyperlinked text box (or button) with the custom show and set a flag to
return to the starting slide in the main presentation.




On 2012-09-08 04:24, anne-ology wrote:


 Are you perchance referring to placing a URL link within the show;
 if so, then that's what you do - when you click on it, then
that
site will open up.

 If instead you're referring to placing a slide show within a slide
show,
 then just add the additional slides where you wish them to
appear.

 If neither, then please explain further.



On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 3:58 AM, Dr. R. O Stapf reinh...@stapf-online.com

**wrote:

I have a slide show in Impress and want to run a custom show when clicking


on a text box with a keyword.
Steps I did:
1 - Created the custom show SlideShow / Custom Slide Show.
2 - Selected the text (blue corners appear, right click on frame, select
Interaction / Go to page or
object
Problem: I cannot find the custom show I created before
Where did I make a mistake?
Could someone please tell me how to run a custom show within a slide
show?

Thanks in advance!








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Re: [libreoffice-users] calc

2012-09-13 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf

Magnus,
It would be good to know more about what you want to do (chart type you want to use, information you 
want to get ouf the chart), what you exactly did (chart type you selected, data ranges and all steps 
you did), and what kind of data do you use for which axis.

With this information (and the LO version information) help should be possible.

rost52


On 2012-09-12 23:17, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
My main reason for replying is because this message went straight to my spam 
fodler, along with quite a few others today.  Normally nothing from this list 
goes to my spam folder but every few months i get a day like this.

So, i can't give  useful answer but i guess it would be good to ask which 
version of LibreOffice you are using and which operating system?  Sometimes the 
Windows version of LibreOffice is a little different from the other one.
Regards from
Tom :)







From: a a kastelle...@gmail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Wednesday, 12 September 2012, 14:35
Subject: [libreoffice-users] calc

Hey,
When i am creating a diagram i can change the numeric values of the y-axel,
but when i try the same procedure for the x-axel, the template with options
stay grey and impossible to change. How can i do to make this grey area
black again so i can change the numeric values?

/Magnus östlund

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: calc

2012-09-13 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf
I indeed understood that you want to show the y-value of every fifth x-value. However, it seems you 
don't want to stick with the pattern but want to be more flexible.


In general a graph displayes the correlation between a series of x-values and their related 
y-values. The x-axis is in any spreedsheet is a continuum of cells. If your dataset has more 
x-values as you want to show in the chart, then a selection of data needs to be made in a way that 
you have at the end of continuum of cells for the x-values. Therefore a manual selection made or a 
smart formular or macro needs to be made to create this continuum of cells filled with x-values 
which you want to show in your chart.


Here is a last idea, which could possibly be of use.
Create the chart with the full set of data you have. Select the bars you want to show. Change the 
color of these bars to put emphasis on them.



On 2012-09-13 18:37, a a wrote:

i think i get how you mean, if i understand you right using your method
will get me one bar on 0, one bar on 5, one bar on 10 etc. I want the bars
to be on varius places on the x.axel depending on the chart i am doing, but
i want only to see every fifth number on the x-axel line. For example say i
want one bar on position 3 on the x-axis but that number shouldnt be shown
on the axis,

2012/9/13 rost52 bugquestcon...@online.de


Now I understand you.

Im afraid there is not such a solution you are looking for. Charts in
general are based on a defined data range for the x-axis where all data on
this range are includeded. But you want to make a data selection using a
chart. You real task, the seclection of data (your x-axis data)  is one
step before making a chart.

I am afraid you have to do this manually or using a selecting criteria
which allows you to pick up every 5th set of data and create a new x-axis
with the relevant data on for the y-axis.

As you have only a data set of 35 and need to select only 7 data sets, I
would simply do this manually. It's a 5 minute job.


On 2012-09-13 18:14, a a wrote:


ok now to the problrm in detail, In the original file that i want to
change, i have numbers 1-35 on the x-axel, which all shows in the diagram,
What i now want is to show only every 5 numbers (0.5.10 etc) so its easier
to read the chart. in pic Y-axel, i can change max/minimum range ,
intervalls between numbers etc. But when i try the same in x-axel i dont
get the alternatives to change them, as shows in the pic x-axel, the
options arent just there. btw i didnt mean that it as malfuncioanal
program, since its greatly done, but sometimes there are issuses needed to
improve.

2012/9/13 rost52 bugquestcon...@online.de

  I am not sure if i understand your problem correct but try to give you

and
answer based on my understanding.

I you want to change the range for the x-axis you need (also in MS Excel)
to change the range and you cannot do this in the window (X-axis) you
opened, You must expand you x-axis data range beyond cell A10 to cover
the
entire range you want to see in the chart.

Right click on the chart
select data range
select data series
select categories and expand the range here. You can keep the new cells
empty or continue from 10 to where you want to go.

LO Calc works correct. The mathematical logic in LO is correct.

If  my answer does not help you, could you please explain why you want to
do what?

ROSt

On 2012-09-13 17:28, a a wrote:

  I am now sending 2 pics, first shows how i want it, Where i can change

the
values, (Y-axel) Second file is the malfuncional one? (X-axel) When i do
same thing on another computer i get Y-axel choices in grey, when i try
the
x-axel ,which doesnt allowe me to change the values. On this comp i get
what you see on X-axel pic. Problem remains in other words.
/Magnus

2012/9/13 rost52 bugquestcon...@online.de

   Yes do so. All addtional information can help.


On 2012-09-13 15:45, a a wrote:

   Ty for all help, but i want to make a bar diagram X/Y wise. Should i


send
a
screenpic of the grey area and the diagram? Sometimes a pic can tell
more
then text.
/Magnus

2012/9/12 MiguelAngel mari...@miguelangel.mobi

El 12/09/12 16:26, Andreas Säger escribió:

  Am 12.09.2012 15:35, a a wrote:

   Hey,


When i am creating a diagram i can change the numeric values of the

y-axel,
but when i try the same procedure for the x-axel, the template with
options
stay grey and imposible to change. How can i do to make this grey
area
black again so i can change the numeric values?

/Magnus östlund


Change the chart type to x/y-scatter chart.

  Ignore Tom Davies. He is the most verbose ignorant on this list.



Hi Andreas,

  please forgive us, I believe, we all learn from you, and we are

grateful
for that, but IMHO we do not need to be encouraged with these
adjectives.

Regards.
Miguel Ángel.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] custom shows within a slide show - impress

2012-09-11 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf

@ anne-ology

Thanks for the hints

'hiding' is not an option as I want to stay in presentation mode

Using your URL approach could be a possible work around,  I was thinking in the meantime about using 
'interaction' and do a similar thing. Need to some testing and will post the result. It might take 
me a few days.


On 2012-09-11 02:37, anne-ology wrote:

Have you considered 'hiding' these slides -- if you wish to have
them seen, just click on 'show' these -
if they're not desired, the presentation will skip over them;
or
insert a URL which, when you click it, would send you to these
slides - when you wish to return to the main show, click on the URL within
this sub-show -

Hoping this helps,



On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 1:52 AM, Dr. R. O Stapf reinh...@stapf-online.comwrote:

Hi and thanks for the first reply.

I intend to show the custom show depending on the discussion in my (main)
presentation.
Imagine following sequence:
- In my presentation I am showing slide N,
- Because and only because of the discussion I want to show 2 slides
additionally and then return to my slide N. (I grouped these 2 slides in a
custom show and call it CustShow.)
- Now I want to click on text or button to open the CustShow.
- After the last slide of the CustShow I want to show again slide N of the
(main) presentation.

I keep the slides for my custom shows at the end of my main presentation
in a section I call LinkedSlides

In Impress I looked into interaction and hyperlink but could not find
a way to show CustShow and return to my slide N from where I wanted to
branch.

Let me please also explain what I did in In MS PowerPoint:before I
switched over to LO
- created a custom show
- created a text box or button at the slide from where I wanted to start
the custom show
- hyperlinked text box (or button) with the custom show and set a flag to
return to the starting slide in the main presentation.




On 2012-09-08 04:24, anne-ology wrote:


 Are you perchance referring to placing a URL link within the show;
 if so, then that's what you do - when you click on it, then
that
site will open up.

 If instead you're referring to placing a slide show within a slide
show,
 then just add the additional slides where you wish them to
appear.

 If neither, then please explain further.



On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 3:58 AM, Dr. R. O Stapf reinh...@stapf-online.com

**wrote:

I have a slide show in Impress and want to run a custom show when clicking


on a text box with a keyword.
Steps I did:
1 - Created the custom show SlideShow / Custom Slide Show.
2 - Selected the text (blue corners appear, right click on frame, select
Interaction / Go to page or
object
Problem: I cannot find the custom show I created before
Where did I make a mistake?
Could someone please tell me how to run a custom show within a slide
show?

Thanks in advance!





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Re: [libreoffice-users] custom shows within a slide show - impress

2012-09-09 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf

Hi and thanks for the first reply.

I intend to show the custom show depending on the discussion in my (main) 
presentation.
Imagine following sequence:
- In my presentation I am showing slide N,
- Because and only because of the discussion I want to show 2 slides additionally and then return to 
my slide N. (I grouped these 2 slides in a custom show and call it CustShow.)

- Now I want to click on text or button to open the CustShow.
- After the last slide of the CustShow I want to show again slide N of the 
(main) presentation.

I keep the slides for my custom shows at the end of my main presentation in a section I call 
LinkedSlides


In Impress I looked into interaction and hyperlink but could not find a way to show CustShow and 
return to my slide N from where I wanted to branch.


Let me please also explain what I did in In MS PowerPoint:before I switched 
over to LO
- created a custom show
- created a text box or button at the slide from where I wanted to start the 
custom show
- hyperlinked text box (or button) with the custom show and set a flag to return to the starting 
slide in the main presentation.





On 2012-09-08 04:24, anne-ology wrote:

Are you perchance referring to placing a URL link within the show;
if so, then that's what you do - when you click on it, then that
site will open up.

If instead you're referring to placing a slide show within a slide
show,
then just add the additional slides where you wish them to
appear.

If neither, then please explain further.



On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 3:58 AM, Dr. R. O Stapf reinh...@stapf-online.comwrote:

I have a slide show in Impress and want to run a custom show when clicking

on a text box with a keyword.
Steps I did:
1 - Created the custom show SlideShow / Custom Slide Show.
2 - Selected the text (blue corners appear, right click on frame, select
Interaction / Go to page or
object
Problem: I cannot find the custom show I created before
Where did I make a mistake?
Could someone please tell me how to run a custom show within a slide show?

Thanks in advance!





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Re: [libreoffice-users] bug search and replace in half height window

2012-09-07 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf

I tested in LibreOffice 3.5.6.2
writer-Window approx. half of the screen in height, in width about 90%.
Document is 22 pages with text and tables (tables are html-copies of calc-tables), page orientation: 
portrait for most, and landscape for a few pages,
Searching for a word with an appearance of about 10 times showed always the right text and search 
word position until the last page.

OS XP SP3.

On 2012-09-07 07:08, anne-ology wrote:

I have not noticed this - but I have not upgraded from LO 3.4  ;-)
and I use WIN not Mac.



On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Guy Voets nimant...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello,

I have a window with Writer that is half the height of my screen.
I do a search  replace, but the text doesn't always move down in the
window to show the next occurrence of the word I'm searching for.
Quite annoying because either you scroll manually, or you say search (next)
and at the end start from the beginning again, till you have found all
occurrences of the word you want replaced.

Anybody to confirm this?

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[libreoffice-users] custom shows within a slide show - impress

2012-09-07 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf
I have a slide show in Impress and want to run a custom show when clicking on a 
text box with a keyword.
Steps I did:
1 - Created the custom show SlideShow / Custom Slide Show.
2 - Selected the text (blue corners appear, right click on frame, select 
Interaction / Go to page or
object
Problem: I cannot find the custom show I created before
Where did I make a mistake?
Could someone please tell me how to run a custom show within a slide show?

Thanks in advance!

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Changing backgrounds on slides regularly

2012-09-07 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf

Possible solution:

create a new presentation
open master
create your 12 back grounds
close master
save as template

create new presentation based on this template
select View / Task pane (or Ctrl+shift+T) / master pages
in the top part (Used in This Presentation) you see all 12 created back grounds 
(=master slides)
select what you want to use for your next slide

have fun

ROSt

On 2012-09-07 18:28, udippel wrote:

Our organisation requires us to use a specific template. This template
consists of 12 backgrounds that are to be used one after the other with
consecutive slides. When the number is up, the presentation should start
again with the first background of the set; so to say in a circular manner.
The easy (and boring) workaround is to click slide after slide and then
background after background. And when one has 27 slides, this IS boring. And
when I duplicate slide 12, I need to redo the same thing for slides 13 to
28.
I have not been able to find a solution for this task. Can anyone help me
out, please?

Uwe




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[libreoffice-users] Impress: Text animation in a master slide

2012-06-26 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf
I want to set a text animation in the master slide. With this animation I want 
all slides based on
this master slide to show text by the first outline level.

Does someone know how to do this? (Searching the manual did not reveal required 
information.)

I am using LO 3.5.4.2

Thanks in advance!

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