Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply-To?

2014-03-05 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) [sighs deeply] So some people on this mailing-list demand that we all change which email-client we use to the one that they use and then set it to a non-default way. Many of us disagree with that sort of philosophy, especially for a User Support mailing-list. In my opinion we should be

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply-To?

2014-03-05 Thread Jim Seymour
On Wed, 5 Mar 2014 11:46:00 + Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi :) [sighs deeply] So some people on this mailing-list demand that we all change which email-client we use to the one that they use and then set it to a non-default way. [snip] I only recall seeing one suggestion that

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply-To?

2014-03-05 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/4/2014 3:01 PM, Carl Paulsen carlpaul...@comcast.net wrote: OK, thanks, this helps. I hadn't understood that the only way to ADD the button was to right-click. Sometimes it's helpful to be explicit. Not everyone knows all the details of every software. From my original email: On

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply-To?

2014-03-05 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/4/2014 3:01 PM, Carl Paulsen carlpaul...@comcast.net wrote: So I had the Reply Lists (or Smart Reply?) button on individual email windows all along (whether showing all headers or not). NO. There is a separate 'Reply List' button. There is a 'Smart Reply' button. Two different buttons.

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply-To?

2014-03-05 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/4/2014 7:37 PM, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote: I'm using Thunderbird latest rev (24.3.0) in PCLOS, and customize only shows the usual reply stuff --reply, reply all, reply list. Are you customizing the MAIN Menu Toolbar (at the very top), or the MAIL HEADER Toolbar (that contains

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply-To?

2014-03-05 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/5/2014 11:02 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Again, the 'Smart Reply' button is ONLY available in the HEADER toolbar. And more importantly, can only be ADDED TO the EMail Header Toolbar, NOT the main Menu toolbar up top. If you are trying to drag it to the top one, it

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply-To?

2014-03-04 Thread Jim Seymour
On Mon, 03 Mar 2014 21:14:04 +0100 yahoo-pier_andreit pier_andr...@yahoo.it wrote: [snip] dear jim, I'm using thunderbird, and I have the same problem, if I press ctrlR the reply is to the sender non to the list, and I would like ctrlto reply to the list not to the sender, so I have to

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply-To?

2014-03-04 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/3/2014 9:12 PM, Carl Paulsen carlpaul...@comcast.net wrote: Tanstaafl, where is the smart reply button? I'm running T-Bird 24.3.0 (latest update for me) and see no such button. I have either Reply or Reply to List, but no smart button and no preference or option for such a button that I

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply-To?

2014-03-04 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/4/2014 10:37 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 3/3/2014 9:12 PM, Carl Paulsen carlpaul...@comcast.net wrote: Tanstaafl, where is the smart reply button? I'm running T-Bird 24.3.0 (latest update for me) and see no such button. I have either Reply or Reply to List, but no

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply-To?

2014-03-04 Thread Carl Paulsen
I still see no Smart Reply but in the email window itself there is the Reply Lists button, which I will be trying to use. I see no option for any toolbar, menu item or anything else resembling what you are talking about (I also see no images in the bug post you link to). Makes me wonder if

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply-To?

2014-03-04 Thread John Mary Linge
On 3/4/14, 1:51 PM, Carl Paulsen wrote: I still see no Smart Reply but in the email window itself there is the Reply Lists button, which I will be trying to use. I see no option for any toolbar, menu item or anything else resembling what you are talking about (I also see no images in the bug

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply-To?

2014-03-04 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/4/2014 1:51 PM, Carl Paulsen carlpaul...@comcast.net wrote: I still see no Smart Reply but in the email window itself Like I said... YOU HAVE TO ADD IT. Right-click (CMD-Click on a Mac) in the email Header pane, and click 'Customize'. Then you should be able to drag-remove the plain

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply-To?

2014-03-04 Thread Carl Paulsen
OK, thanks, this helps. I hadn't understood that the only way to ADD the button was to right-click. Sometimes it's helpful to be explicit. Not everyone knows all the details of every software. So I had the Reply Lists (or Smart Reply?) button on individual email windows all along (whether

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply-To?

2014-03-04 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster
On 03/04/2014 02:31 PM, John Mary Linge wrote: On 3/4/14, 1:51 PM, Carl Paulsen wrote: I still see no Smart Reply but in the email window itself there is the Reply Lists button, which I will be trying to use. I see no option for any toolbar, menu item or anything else resembling what you

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply-To?

2014-03-04 Thread Doug
On 03/04/2014 02:40 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: On 3/4/2014 1:51 PM, Carl Paulsen carlpaul...@comcast.net wrote: I still see no Smart Reply but in the email window itself Like I said... YOU HAVE TO ADD IT. Right-click (CMD-Click on a Mac) in the email Header pane, and click 'Customize'. Then

[libreoffice-users] Re: Reply-To?

2014-03-03 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/2/2014 1:53 PM, Jim Seymour jseym...@linxnet.com wrote: In fact: Because some people, for some reason, feel the need to set Reply-to to their own email address: I've a procmail rule that resets those to the mailing list. That is rude and arrogant and you should *never* do that. Some

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply-To?

2014-03-03 Thread Jim Seymour
On Mon, 03 Mar 2014 07:25:36 -0500 Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 3/2/2014 1:53 PM, Jim Seymour jseym...@linxnet.com wrote: In fact: Because some people, for some reason, feel the need to set Reply-to to their own email address: I've a procmail rule that resets those to the

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply-To?

2014-03-03 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/3/2014 7:56 AM, Jim Seymour jseym...@linxnet.com wrote: On Mon, 03 Mar 2014 07:25:36 -0500 Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 3/2/2014 1:53 PM, Jim Seymour jseym...@linxnet.com wrote: In fact: Because some people, for some reason, feel the need to set Reply-to to their own

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply-To?

2014-03-03 Thread anne-ology
Yes, I so agree with you. From: Jim Seymour jseym...@linxnet.com Date: Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 6:56 AM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply-To? To: users@global.libreoffice.org On Mon, 03 Mar 2014 07:25:36 -0500 Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 3/2/2014 1:53 PM, Jim

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply-To?

2014-03-03 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/3/2014 9:58 AM, Jim Seymour jseym...@linxnet.com wrote: On Mon, 03 Mar 2014 09:46:06 -0500 Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: [snip] If you cannot see the difference then I guess we have nothing more to discuss, because I don't (try to) discuss things with stupid people. [snip]

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply-To?

2014-03-03 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) +1 to the point that conversations begun on the mailing list should stay on-list. I really liked that i could just reply to this post and it went straight to the list without also going to a selection of other people. That is the way this mailing list used to work all the time and it

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply-To?

2014-03-03 Thread yahoo-pier_andreit
On 03/03/2014 01:56 PM, Jim Seymour wrote: On Mon, 03 Mar 2014 07:25:36 -0500 Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: tagliuzzo egards, Jim dear jim, I'm using thunderbird, and I have the same problem, if I press ctrlR the reply is to the sender non to the list, and I would like to reply

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply-To?

2014-03-03 Thread Tanstaafl
I'm not Jim, but probably know far more than he does about Thunderbird. On 3/3/2014 3:14 PM, yahoo-pier_andreit pier_andr...@yahoo.it wrote: dear jim, I'm using thunderbird, and I have the same problem, if I press ctrlR the reply is to the sender non to the list, and I would like to reply to

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply-To?

2014-03-03 Thread Carl Paulsen
Tanstaafl, where is the smart reply button? I'm running T-Bird 24.3.0 (latest update for me) and see no such button. I have either Reply or Reply to List, but no smart button and no preference or option for such a button that I can find. I'm on a Mac. Sure would be helpful. Carl On

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-17 Thread Mirosław Zalewski
On 16/08/2012 at 16:28, anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com wrote: BTW - what is PM ? Personal (Private) Message. Wikipedia article showed up as fourth entry when I asked Google about PM forum. But since Google personalizes search results (according to past queries of user), it's much harder to

[libreoffice-users] Re: Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-16 Thread Marc Paré
Hi Anne and Jay, Le 2012-08-16 00:53, Jay Lozier a écrit : (3) Thank you for standing up against these list-members who respond at the bottom ! Actually there are two different philosophies. Top posting works best when only a few people are actively involved in the conversation and all are

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-16 Thread Bjørn K Nilssen
På Thu, 16 Aug 2012 02:29:24 +0200, skrev Andrew Brager apb3...@bak.rr.com: Thunderbird has the option. I don't know what other clients have it, if any. Opera have that option too. But it still doesn't make the idea of making the From: the default To: address for replies any better. It

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-16 Thread Tom Davies
: Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply settings on this list have changed To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 16 August, 2012, 7:03 Hi Anne and Jay, Le 2012-08-16 00:53, Jay Lozier a écrit : (3) Thank you for standing up against these list-members who

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-16 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 08/16/2012 03:11 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Bottom posting is a good way to alienate most of the target I strongly dislike bottom posting Just saying... If it were obviously the correct and logical choice, then I expect more people would tend towards it naturally. I usually follow

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-16 Thread Tom Davies
to reach the list.  Regards from Tom :)  --- On Thu, 16/8/12, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org wrote: From: Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply settings on this list have changed To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 16 August

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-16 Thread anne-ology
Thanks for clearing up that acronym. On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 11:53 PM, Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/15/2012 08:48 PM, anne-ology wrote: (2) Just what - or who - is RFC ??? Request for comments -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to:

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-16 Thread anne-ology
yes, I agree with you; and thanks for your kind words. For the listers who promote Thunderbird Opera, the problems, some of which are noted here, persist ;-( BTW - what is PM ? ... Prime Minister doesn't fit into the context ;-)

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-16 Thread anne-ology
difficult to keep things on-list and more difficult for new arrivals to the list. Perfect!! Regards from Tom :) From: Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply settings on this list have changed To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 16 August, 2012, 7:03

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-16 Thread Jay Lozier
is brilliant! It makes it more difficult to keep things on-list and more difficult for new arrivals to the list. Perfect!! Regards from Tom :) From: Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply settings on this list have changed To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-16 Thread anne-ology
How old do you think engineering is? granted this term existed, yet the definition has changed post-industrialization. Here are a couple sites which seem to be fairly accurate historically - http://www.creatingtechnology.org/history.htm

[libreoffice-users] Re: Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-16 Thread NoOp
On 08/16/2012 07:14 AM, anne-ology wrote: Thanks for clearing up that acronym. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=RFC You can repeat the same on Google, Yahoo!, Bing, Wikipedia et al. On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 11:53 PM, Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/15/2012 08:48 PM,

top-posting semantics was: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-16 Thread Felmon Davis
On Thu, 16 Aug 2012, Tom Davies wrote: The question is not about wrong or right imo, it's about whether we want new people to start using LO and to feel welcome or do we want to discourage all newcomers?  don't assume most new-comers are not familiar with mailing lists. some aren't but many

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-15 Thread Steve Edmonds
I think the safe response when using the changed list settings is use Reply-all. For simplicity, the only instruction to users of the lists that works consistently is Reply-all. steve On 2012-08-16 05:22, Jay Lozier wrote: On 08/15/2012 12:09 PM, Dan Hall wrote: In Outlook 2003 SP3 - Reply

RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-15 Thread Dan Hall
To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply settings on this list have changed On 08/14/2012 07:24 PM, anne-ology wrote: no, this 'reply to list' option does not exist for many of us. Do you have a reply all option? You may want to check what email address is used

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-15 Thread anne-ology
@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply settings on this list have changed On 08/14/2012 07:24 PM, anne-ology wrote: no, this 'reply to list' option does not exist for many of us. Do you have a reply all option? You may want to check what email address is used

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-15 Thread anne-ology
exactly; this requires having to delete the extraneous e-addresses ;-) Therefore, I'd like to know what is the time savings in this vs. having the reply go to the list ??? This change isn't anymore logical than some of these responders who must think we should

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-15 Thread Andrew Brager
On 8/15/2012 5:11 PM, anne-ology wrote: I find deleting to be slightly easier than copy paste in order to include the original sender. Further, what difference does it make to you how many copies the original sender receives? If I happen to receive two copies of a response to me,

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-15 Thread Andrew Brager
Thunderbird has the option. I don't know what other clients have it, if any. On 8/15/2012 5:00 PM, anne-ology wrote: exactly - well, there is a third option [to forward ;-) ] And those are the only options available in the web-based e-mails as well. BTW - I've never

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-15 Thread anne-ology
(1) I'm not referring to the sender vs. the list ... Im referring to all the others' which are placed in the cc; by clicking on 'reply all', all the e-addresses are picked up - therefore, I have to be sure that the 'to' has the sender's e-address and the 'cc' has the list

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-15 Thread Jay Lozier
On 08/15/2012 08:48 PM, anne-ology wrote: (1) I'm not referring to the sender vs. the list ... Im referring to all the others' which are placed in the cc; by clicking on 'reply all', all the e-addresses are picked up - therefore, I have to be sure that the 'to' has the

[libreoffice-users] Re: Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-14 Thread NoOp
On 08/13/2012 12:50 PM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: 2012/8/13 Anthony Easthope antiso...@myopera.com: Opera Webmail. I move around to much on computers to use a dedicated mail client. http://mail.opera.com I actually have an Opera Mail address, but I didn't use it for years now; maybe it's

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-14 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P
On 08/14/2012 02:33 PM, NoOp wrote: On 08/13/2012 12:50 PM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: 2012/8/13 Anthony Easthope antiso...@myopera.com: Opera Webmail. I move around to much on computers to use a dedicated mail client. http://mail.opera.com I actually have an Opera Mail address, but I didn't use

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-14 Thread anne-ology
no, this 'reply to list' option does not exist for many of us. On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 4:07 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: I have a couple of Web-based email accounts, but I have to look them up [and their passwords] since I have not used them for more

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-14 Thread Steve Edmonds
Not in my gmail steve On 2012-08-15 11:24, anne-ology wrote: no, this 'reply to list' option does not exist for many of us. On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 4:07 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: I have a couple of Web-based email accounts, but I have to look them

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-14 Thread Jay Lozier
On 08/14/2012 07:24 PM, anne-ology wrote: no, this 'reply to list' option does not exist for many of us. Do you have a reply all option? You may want to check what email address is used in the To field with reply or reply all. On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 4:07 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P