Re: [SOGo] Proposed solution (was:Dear programmers and architects)

2013-07-09 Thread Wayland Sothcott

On 08/07/2013 03:27, Mark Pavlichuk wrote:
This problem (ie. time-consuming and error-prone installations) is FAR 
broader than SOGo...  and existing solutions used in the industry 
aren't optimal and/or have serious tradeoffs eg. bundling a product in 
a specialist distro or custom VM etc...


  I'm working on a project which, amongst other things, allows easy 
sharing of automated configurations (ie. package lists, scripted 
configuration and even remote OS installation if required) between 
sites...  but is MUCH broader than just this mission.  It's a web 
admin GUI that can be extended with plugins to achieve many tasks ie. 
administration of Samba, SOGo, Postfix, Dovecot, Cyrus, Kerberos, 
Asterisk, rSyslog, Freeradius, Kolab, Nagios, Openstack, and many more 
services...  all controlled via LDAP + RPC.


  The automatic configuration aspect allows complete remote 
installation and/or configuration of clients, and works with both 
Windows (via OPSI) and Linux (via FAI).  Unfortunately the Linux 
autoconfig part has been a bit neglected and needs work, but is 
receiving developer attention at the moment.  If you're interested in 
helping and/or giving the project a spin join us in #fusiondirectory 
on FreeNode (IRC network).  The best time is between 9000(GMT) and 
1600(GMT).  I should also mention that FusionDirectory is the name of 
the project... it's a fork of the stalled GOsa project.  If you're 
expecting things to be easy we certainly aren't there yet...  which is 
why we need testers and help...  HEEELP!!!  ;)



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Re: [SOGo] Problem with outlook and ZEG - Need help please!

2013-06-26 Thread Wayland Sothcott

On 24/06/2013 13:39, raymond wrote:

I am sitting watching the demonstration video of sogo on youtube and giving
a big sigh!! Wondering how the hell did they get it to work. Must I purchase
a support pack, yes or no. mmm NO if the demo doesn't work, I can
just imagine how the support is going to work. Yes I know the ZEG does
works but I am yet to experience a working demo with outlook as shown in
the video on youtube.
  
Phew, now that I had the opportunity to blow off steam I would like to

apologise to the Sogo team. If you do have a working product then great
stuff, just a pity you have not found a way to share it with people like me.
  
Man I am so irritable at the moment I can shout it from the roof tops 

no reflection on Sogo... just me wanting something and not getting it... I
am just tossing out my toys, banging my head against the wall and shouting
at ants...
  
And all because I can't figure out where I am going wrong with the outlook

setup. Oh, look there is another ant...
  
Good bye.
  
  

Hello Raymond,

I sympathise with you but also with the SOGo team. There is an obvious 
hole in what you can do with a Linux server. It's not necessarily that 
it does not act as an Exchange server but that the functionality of an 
email server beyond simply sending and receiving emails using Internet 
standards is missing.


Microsoft protocols are usually very complicated, The SAMBA team have 
done fantastically well to make it work like Microsoft NT Server. The 
SOGo team are trying to do this for Exchange.


What should happen is a set of open standards should be written. These 
would define how the client and the server talk to each other to handle 
address book data and calendar data.
The server could then store it's data in whatever database suits it. 
This might be the companies own database or one which came with the 
service. The client could be an ipad or MS Outlook or Thunderbird. 
Whatever, no matter since this standard would be added to the client 
just like IMAP or POP is currently.


Trying to reverse engineer a Microsoft product is a bit sad. It's all 
reflected glory. Open Office is like this. I could go on...


Regards,
Wayland.



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Re: [SOGo] So disappointed !!

2013-06-26 Thread Wayland Sothcott

On 22/06/2013 13:59, Raymond wrote:

I am so disappointed !! Just can't get outlook to stay connected to
openchange - I don't think it is a Sogo problem, the (ZEG) is not producing
any workable solution. Seems like this project needs a lot of work still.

  


Now I need to look at the costs of a Microsoft Exchange Server.. L not
happy.

  

  


Ray

  
That LDAP thing makes you think that there is a standard for groupware 
but there is not :-(
LDAP is a total pain. Far too difficult to use unless you are a genius, 
but then I would create something better if I was.
I am sure there is a reason why the ZEG is not issued as an ISO. It's so 
you can't make a real server unless you go through the full pain. I did 
actually turn it into an ISO using a tool but it lost the GUI in the 
process.


  

  


From: Ludovic Marcotte [mailto:lmarco...@inverse.ca]
Sent: 22 June 2013 14:37
To: users@sogo.nu
Subject: Re: [SOGo] Unknown HTTPS issue 

  


On 2013-06-22 8:28 AM, Steve Ankeny wrote:

Nothing in http.conf

Your SOGo Apache configuration.







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Re: [SOGo] Problem with outlook and ZEG - Need help please!

2013-06-26 Thread Wayland Sothcott

On 26/06/2013 14:41, raymond wrote:

Hi Wayland, thank you for your reply. I don't know if you will get this
email, I have been kicked off the list by Ludovic Marcotte for my last
comments.

I am sure that the Sogo team is working hard and I really hope they crack
the whip on MS Exchange server. We need people like the Sogo team. What
frustrated me a bit was the fact that the Zeg is advertised on the site as a
zero config test environment to see the product in action.

The Sogo web GUI worked fine and the sending test mail with the interface
worked fine but there was just no way Outlook stayed connected for me to see
the results of using a native connection to outlook.

I google'd the problem with Outlook and found some people who had the same
issues but with no reply on how to resolve it, this is why I got a bit mad
after discovering one post where someone commented on a user problem and one
of the team suggested that they purchase a support pack. This is where I
snapped and got the idea that the Zeg was not working and to get it to work
you had to purchase support.

Anyway I had another discussion and it just may be Windows 8 with outlook
2007 that is not tested with the Zeg and it could be a bug. Outlook has all
the SP's 1-3 installed, firewall turned off, hosts set in windows etc etc...
as per the docs but no luck to get outlook connected.

If you don't use the exchange setup in outlook and you use the account (auto
detect) option then the IMAP server is detected on the Zeg. By doing this
you don't have Calendar synchronization, only mail items as you would expect
from an IMAP server.

One Sogo member on the list assured me that the Zeg works with outlook. So
now I am in the process of testing WindowsXP with Outlook (2003 and 2007)
and then will move onto Windows 7 with Outlook (2007)

I addition I will be starting from scratch to configure CentOS 6.4 with
Samba 4 and to see if I can get OpenChange running. Better to start from the
bottom up.


Regards,
Ray
   


Hello Ray,

Indeed your message did not reach the group but my reply will. I messed 
around with ZEG for quite a while and even managed to make an 
installable ISO so I could run it on hardware. I don't know if the ZEG 
is up to date with the current SOGo but I had disconnection problems and 
very slow response. I tried Outlook XP and Outlook 7 on XP and Windows 
7. It was obvious to me that this was not ready for my customers as I 
could not handle the frustration myself.


I love Open Source software but it's a mystery to me what is motivating 
the developers. Is someone paying them? Do they thrive on people 
complaining about bugs? Are they planning on selling the whole thing to 
Oracle?


Here's what I do. There are loads of small businesses with two or three 
computers and they struggle to share work without a server. I get a 
decent old computer and make a server using Linux. It acts as file 
storage and email server. It bugs me that they can't all use the same 
address book. Also these days people are using their smartphones for 
email. It's easy enough to get the smartphone to use the server for 
email but again no address book. The calendar function would be great.


This market is dominated by Microsoft in the medium sized businesses and 
Google in the small businesses. I don't think it's good if people keep 
all their stuff with companies hooked into PRISM. One bloke died and 
another is on the run so that we could be told this blindingly obvious 
bit of info:- the worlds governments have all our emails and data.


Regards,
Wayland.





-Original Message-
From: Wayland Sothcott [mailto:wayl...@sothcott.co.uk]
Sent: 26 June 2013 02:36 PM
To: users@sogo.nu
Cc: raym...@joburgtheatre.com
Subject: Re: [SOGo] Problem with outlook and ZEG - Need help please!

On 24/06/2013 13:39, raymond wrote:

I am sitting watching the demonstration video of sogo on youtube and
giving a big sigh!! Wondering how the hell did they get it to work.
Must I purchase a support pack, yes or no. mmm NO if the
demo doesn't work, I can just imagine how the support is going to
work. Yes I know the ZEG does works but I am yet to experience a
working demo with outlook as shown in the video on youtube.
   
Phew, now that I had the opportunity to blow off steam I would like to

apologise to the Sogo team. If you do have a working product then
great stuff, just a pity you have not found a way to share it with people

like me.
   
Man I am so irritable at the moment I can shout it from the roof tops 

no reflection on Sogo... just me wanting something and not getting
it... I am just tossing out my toys, banging my head against the wall
and shouting at ants...
   
And all because I can't figure out where I am going wrong with the

outlook setup. Oh, look there is another ant...
   
Good bye.
   
   

Hello Raymond,

I sympathise with you but also with the SOGo team. There is an obvious hole
in what you can do with a Linux server. It's not necessarily

Re: [SOGo] Problem with outlook and ZEG - Need help please!

2013-06-26 Thread Wayland Sothcott

On 26/06/2013 14:42, Miles Lott wrote:
If it were not for the desire and in some cases the actual need for 
Outlook, then reverse engineering would not be necessary.  As an 
alternative, if there were another client that would allow for 
connection to Sharepoint calendars and would also allow for the use of 
existing third party Outlook plugins, then we could use that.


If you do not need Outlook, then the web interface or Thunderbird 
(with its plugins) is enough.  Of course, working with Thunderbird and 
its issues requires some reverse engineering as well - or at least 
patience.


It sounds like I am coming at the problem backwards. Outlook is a 
popular and competent email client but if I found another one my 
customers would use that. There used to be a little address book and 
calendar that looked like a filofax, it was fantastic and could even 
share it's file over the network so several people could use it. This 
was discontinued rather than developed further. I rather feel that the 
lack of a simple solution to this common and simple problem is 
deliberate. Novel Netware was very reliable but the corporation I worked 
for migrated away from this to TCP/IP which I did not understand at the 
time. The same corporation moved away from Lotus Notes to Microsoft 
Exchange and I have never understood.


I am becoming convinced that the way to solve this problem is to ignore 
the existing 'solutions' such as any Thunderbird plugins or MS Exchange 
or LDAP and create a very simple protocol. Then people can create the 
plugins for the email clients and the web interface and the backend 
server database interface etc to their hearts content. No one has to try 
and pretend to be MS Exchange.


On 06/26/2013 07:35 AM, Wayland Sothcott wrote:

   Hello Raymond,

I sympathise with you but also with the SOGo team. There is an 
obvious hole in what you can do with a Linux server. It's not 
necessarily that it does not act as an Exchange server but that the 
functionality of an email server beyond simply sending and receiving 
emails using Internet standards is missing.


Microsoft protocols are usually very complicated, The SAMBA team have 
done fantastically well to make it work like Microsoft NT Server. The 
SOGo team are trying to do this for Exchange.


What should happen is a set of open standards should be written. 
These would define how the client and the server talk to each other 
to handle address book data and calendar data.
The server could then store it's data in whatever database suits it. 
This might be the companies own database or one which came with the 
service. The client could be an ipad or MS Outlook or Thunderbird. 
Whatever, no matter since this standard would be added to the client 
just like IMAP or POP is currently.


Trying to reverse engineer a Microsoft product is a bit sad. It's all 
reflected glory. Open Office is like this. I could go on...


Regards,
Wayland.




 

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Re: [SOGo] New Samba4/OpenChange/Sogo tutorial

2013-02-26 Thread Wayland Sothcott

On 26/02/2013 11:39, Olivier Bitsch wrote:

Hi all,

I just finished to write a tutorial in order to 
install Samba4/OpenChange/Sogo on Ubuntu/Debian, available at 
http://iabsis.com/FR/article/35/Installation-de-Samba4-et-Openchange-sur-un-serveur-Debian-ou-Ubuntu/


(only available in french yet).

Basically, you can build your self a ZEG machine, but with 
Share/Domain Controller working, withtout OpenLDAP (only one directory 
on Samba4), and simplified way to create users. Also I only use 
packages provided by inverse.ca http://inverse.ca to install the 
softwares.


I'll very happy if you can test and let comments.

Best regards.

Olivier.
Excellent work Olivier, I am going to build one today and get back to 
the list with the results. Microsoft Babel Fish seems to make a good job 
of converting your French into English but it's easy enough to follow 
anyway.

http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?from=frto=ena=http://iabsis.com/FR/article/35/Installation-de-Samba4-et-Openchange-sur-un-serveur-Debian-ou-Ubuntu/

Regards,
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Re: [SOGo] Help needed, making a real admin tool for SOGO, needs commands.

2013-02-22 Thread Wayland Sothcott

On 21/02/2013 21:48, administrator wrote:

Me personally, it's a personal quest to abolish all things not open source from my 
workplace (I'm the IT admin/programmer/database/mail guy). I've got spiceworks 
taking care of watching my network and inventory, and exchange deciding not to 
send mail on random days at around 11am without reason or any real help in the 
logs. I've already moved from SCO OpenServer 5 - Ubuntu 8.04 and had great 
success, this is the next logical step.

I knew what it was from the start, it's basically just a webmail type website 
that works with a bunch of common mail servers and other projects allowing for 
outlook connections. In my case my only benefit would be sleep, and I like 
sleeping. I was kind of hoping it would just work like webmin, but I see your 
point about people wanting to roll out their own solutions.

At this point I'm just wondering if I can just do cyrus + postfix + OpenChange. 
I only need IMAP,MAPI,SMTP,DNS (to make it independent), backups and built in 
authentication. To be honest, the less the better.

Please correct me if I'm mistaken and cannot do the 3 things above without sogo 
gluing them together. I realize some people need a web interface, we got 
outlook and phones so we don't need that.

Drop the MAPI and you can use Zentyal Community edition or ClearOS 
community edition.



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Re: [SOGo] Help needed, making a real admin tool for SOGO, needs commands.

2013-02-22 Thread Wayland Sothcott

On 22/02/2013 00:59, Mark Madere wrote:

Are you using Active directory to mange your exchange users?  If so you can 
point SOGo at your AD server and manage your users the same way you always have.

I think rolling cyrus + postfix + OpenChange is an uphill battle.  And it won't 
provide you with an admin tool.  Also, are you sure your users don't want/use 
calendars and contacts?

I like sleep too,
Mark
Crikey, I thought the whole point of this SOGo experience was to do 
contacts and diaries. Drop those and it's a basic IMAP server which will 
do everything. If someone extended IMAP to do contacts and calendars 
then we would be set.



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Re: [SOGo] Sogo with Mysql Exim Courier

2013-02-22 Thread Wayland Sothcott

On 22/02/2013 07:03, Direct Logic wrote:

Dear All,

I am using email server which is composed of 
EXIM+COURIER+MYSQL+APACHE. Now i want to implement SOGO in my 
organization how can i do that . I go through the manual and install 
it in testing environment but not working.


Please suggest how can i installed it and its compulsory to install LDAP.


Thanks
Direct Logic

There is a ready made ZEG which you can run in VMWare. I know it's not 
what you want but at least you can play with a working implementation.



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Re: [SOGo] Sogo with Mysql Exim Courier

2013-02-22 Thread Wayland Sothcott

On 22/02/2013 12:08, Daniel Müller wrote:

I am running with exim courier-imap open-ldap auth. Without any difficulties. 
On the SOGo side you need at least ldap to work.
There is a bit of a learning curve. I know IMAP and am practical with 
Linux servers but LDAP is something I have yet to crack. It's a weird 
sort of database which is not like SQL. As for schemas, well I have not 
figured out of each application stores things differently or what. There 
would need to be a common schema in order that an Android could pick up 
contacts data from Outlook.


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Re: [SOGo] ZEG to Google Android emulator Exchange email

2013-02-20 Thread Wayland Sothcott

On 20/02/2013 03:18, Mark Madere wrote:

Subject: [SOGo] ZEG to Google Android emulator Exchange email
Date: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 05:48 PM CST
From: Wayland Sothcott wayl...@sothcott.co.uk
  

OK, well MS Outlook 2003 works OK with ZEG as an Exchange server
I am now attempting to get Virtual Android 3.0 with Google Apps to talk
to ZEG as an exchange server.
However it can't seem to connect with the server. I have the choice of
using SSL or not. I am basically following the client Outlook
instructions but there are no Android specific ones. I know it's
networked OK because it can see the Internet and see my local LAN.


SOGo Outlook support use the MAPI and Outlook Anywhere protocols.  Mobile 
devices do not use these protocols.  They use ActiveSync. You can try sogosync 
which is a modified version of z-push from zafara.  I have used it to some but 
not all success.

https://github.com/xbgmsharp/sogosync

be sure read the instructions carefully or it will never work.

Mark

  
  
  
  

Thank you for that Mark. I am trying it now.

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Re: [SOGo] ZEG 2.04 Samba and DNS

2013-02-20 Thread Wayland Sothcott

On 20/02/2013 18:32, christoph.eh...@sasplusnet.de wrote:

Hello,
i installed the recent ZEG image ZEG-2.0.4.ova from your download area in a
virtualbox env. The vbox is on a dedicated server and got its own public ip.

SOGo webmail works. What i want to do is to add a new domain so i can use it in
a real life scenario with outlook support. I added new domain via samba-tool
domain and outlook configuration pdf. The problem ist that outlook connection
doesn't work because a dns failure. Does this appliance use samba4's internal
dns or bind9? What about dns updates? When i executed samba-tool provision a
file  named.conf.update is generated but i can't include it in this bind setup
(unknown option update-policy when i restart bind). I need to resolve SRV
entries.

So all i want to do is add a new domain so i can use sogo on my dedicated box.
What steps are needed? Any help would be nice.
I know why you want to use the ZEG image, at least it works. It seems so 
difficult to build a server with SOGo integrated that finding some way 
of using the ZEG seems like a good idea. However there are some 
alterbative server builds that are better overall. Perfect Debian 6 with 
ISPConfig 3 is a good solution if you want to run an ISP. ClearOS or 
Zentyal are both good in an office environment.


Currently no one has put all this together as a working procedure to 
build a decent server in the way the HowtoForge has done with Perfect 
Debian 6. That procedure talks you through building a decent server 
every time.


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Re: [SOGo] Help needed, making a real admin tool for SOGO, needs commands.

2013-02-20 Thread Wayland Sothcott

On 20/02/2013 21:38, administrator wrote:


SOGo looks promising, but the sheer amount of bad user interfaces to 
manage it and stuff like that is staggering.


What was I expecting?

1)Install the ZEG appliance, at first login tell me the management 
url: http://192.x.x.x/SOGo


2)I should have been able to log in as sogo to begin with in the web 
interface


3)From there, I should be able to just type in a list of domains to 
accept mail for and their settings


4)Also from there I should be able to easily create users for each 
mail domain (sorta like the windows user manager, at least M$ got that 
part right)


5)Other misc configs. And scripts to do the same stuff easily from the 
commandline without having to remember what back ends you were using


What I'm proposing:

Since I only do vb.net I'm kinda screwed in a way because linux mainly 
supports c#, perl, php, that kind of stuff. Except for the gambas IDE, 
and bash shell scripts and tools. But even with that, I'd be willing 
to give it a shot to make a simple user interface to make managing 
this thing as simple as IIS6 and the local users and groups is on 
windows. I mean ideally someone would just finish their webmin module 
but I've got what I've got.


What I need from you guys:

All the command line stuff you know to manage things.

-Add/Delete New user

-Add/Delete New mailbox

Etc...

It's practically faster for me to make the program than figure this 
stuff out.


-K

I am trying to solve this also. Not from the position of writing the 
interface but of finding one that someone has done. As well as looking 
at SOGo I am also looking at z-push. This can be integrated with a 
server running Debian and ISPConfig. However z-push only works with 
mobile devices and not Outlook.


It is a bit of a nightmare making a good solution. Zentyal comes with 
Zarafa which has z-push but you don't get native Outlook compatibility 
and need a licensed connector to install into Outlook.


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Re: [SOGo] Help needed, making a real admin tool for SOGO, needs commands.

2013-02-20 Thread Wayland Sothcott

On 20/02/2013 22:00, Romain LE DISEZ wrote:

Hello,

I wrote this few months ago:
https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists/arc/users/2012-10/msg00218.html

Accounts management works fine. Other modules are not implemented for 
now. I'm interested to keep this project alive, but if nobody uses it 
it will surely die.


It clearly lacks of documentation. If you want to test it, just tell 
me and I'll write it.


Tell me if you're interested to test/contribute/...

Source code is still here:
https://github.com/rledisez/SOGoAccountsManager

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It looks to me as if the components are available.
I think we need to turn the ZEG into an ISO that people can use as a 
production server.
If we can't do that then we need a procedure like the Perfect Debian 
Server guides where anyone can plod through the instructions from the 
beginning and end up with a Groupware server at the end.


The hard part of actually creating SOGo and the other components has 
been done. But putting it all together is still to hard for me and most 
people.


I think this is going to need to be Android compatible too.

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Re: [SOGo] ZEG burned to ISO DVD using remastersys

2013-02-19 Thread Wayland Sothcott

On 19/02/2013 01:01, administrator wrote:

I just tried it with:
remastersys backup

no installer or anything came up. Just dropped me to the prompt, but did boot 
up in a non-vm intel based desktop

trying:
remastersys dist

Hopefully that works. I'm thinking it might require x and ubiquity maybe?

-K
I did remastersys backup which means It still holds a couple of test 
emails I sent in the sogo1 account. The remastersys dist would 
presumably have stripped those out.


When you boot the ISO it puts a text based menu called Sogo Live CD with 
a number of options including Live CD and Install. If you wait and don't 
select it will boot Live CD and take you to the command prompt after a 
while on the Ubuntu 12.04 . . . . screen. The command prompt includes 
the IP address so you can go say http://192.168.1.109/ from another PC. 
Because of SAMBA you can probably go http://sogo/  I can on mine.




-Original Message-
From: Wayland Sothcott [mailto:wayl...@sothcott.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 8:46 AM
To: users@sogo.nu
Subject: [SOGo] ZEG burned to ISO DVD using remastersys

I put the Zero Effort Groupware image .vmdk into bootable ISO format!
I am now able to pop a Live DVD into an AMD64 machine and run ZEG on hardware 
rather than VMWare.
I can run it as live or install it.
This is handy for testing and could help build production hardware without 
having to start from scratch.

I have used Remastersys which works best with Ubuntu.

Start ZEG in VMWare.
Log into the ZEG terminal with sogo/sogo

Follow the Remastersys instructions for creating a Ubuntu ISO 
http://geekconnection.org/remastersys/

Install FTP so you can download the file to your CD burning computer apt-get 
install proftpd-basic ucf
chose:standalone

Get CuteFTP or whatever FTP package on your host computer
host: sogo
user: sogo
pw: sogo
Then download the ISO from /home/remastersys/remastersys/

Test this ISO by using it as the CD-ROM in a new virtual machine in VMWare 
Workstation.
Burn it to DVD (too big for CD) and test on target hardware.


Regards,
Wayland




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Re: [SOGo] ZEG: Outlook 2003 worked only once

2013-02-19 Thread Wayland Sothcott

On 18/02/2013 17:05, Gert Karpelin wrote:

DNS problem?

Should really post down the bottom, this is not an email.


2013/2/17 Wayland Sothcott wayl...@sothcott.co.uk 
mailto:wayl...@sothcott.co.uk


On 17/02/2013 17:16, Wayland Sothcott wrote:

Matthias Gasser mailing@... writes:

to amend something more useful:

here is the output of the samba.log:

http://pastie.org/5451961

It seems there is an issue with the kinit (kerberos)

-Matthias

On 28.11.2012, at 21:54, der.keim@... wrote:

Hi,

With the ZEG installation, I connected via Outlook
2003 to Sogo. It worked

for

the first time quite nice (except of missing sender
names).

But then no connection was possible anymore, a restart
of sogo did also not
help.

Which log file should I investigate? What could have
happened?


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I have ZEG running and can email between sogo1 and sogo2
between two web
browsers. However when I attached Outlook 2003 as per the
Client instructions;
To configure Outlook:
It would not send emails nor show emails received by sogo1.
On the 2nd booting of Outlook it simply hangs.

Regards,
Wayland.





OK, getting a bit further with this. The email side of Outlook
2003 seems stable. However Contacts - Personal Address Book says
The set of folders is unavailable. The server is not available



The problem went away when I closed and reopened Outlook.

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Re: [SOGo] Problem First time installing sogo on Ubuntu 12.04

2013-02-19 Thread Wayland Sothcott

On 18/02/2013 16:11, administrator wrote:

Do you know if the ZEG appliance can be cloned to a real server easily? (the 
Ubuntu one already set up with outlook mapi)

I was thinking just dumping the virtual machine's hard disk image to a ghost 
image etc... then just ghosting that over to a real hard drive, sticking it 
into the server and seeing if it boots. That way I just have to mess with 
configs.

-K


See my post ZEG burned to ISO.


-Original Message-
From: Steve Ankeny [mailto:stev...@cinergymetro.net]
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 6:49 AM
To: users@sogo.nu
Subject: Re: [SOGo] Problem First time installing sogo on Ubuntu 12.04

Did you install 'sope?'

And, have you considered the ZEG appliance? It would give you a good test 
before doing it yourself.

On 02/15/2013 09:05 PM, administrator wrote:

Hey guys, I'm trying to install sogo for the first time. I want to rip
apart my exchange 2010 server(s). They have proven very unstable, no
matter what you do. This morning for no reason mail stopped flowing
all together, no errors in the logs, only a reboot fixed it. I'm tired
of getting calls in the morning. Time to format and try something new.

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Re: [SOGo] Problem First time installing sogo on Ubuntu 12.04

2013-02-19 Thread Wayland Sothcott

On 18/02/2013 17:01, Steve Ankeny wrote:

Take a look at the thread:

ZEG burned to ISO DVD using remastersys 
https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists/arc/users/2013-02/msg00229.html


Somewhere in that process you should be able to come up with a process 
that works for you.


I do not know if it can be 'ghosted,' but I do not doubt that it could.

It appears to me that converting the ZEG to an ISO is an ideal way to 
use it as a bootable DVD or as an alternative to installing it 
natively instead of keeping with the virtual machine concept.
It would have been better for me if the ZEG had been as an ISO to begin 
with because VMWare could still be used if you wanted. The remastersys 
seems to make a usable ISO but the web interface on port 2 throws an 
unhandled error when I log in with sogo1/sogo on the Live boot.


On 02/18/2013 11:11 AM, administrator wrote:

Do you know if the ZEG appliance can be cloned to a real server easily? (the 
Ubuntu one already set up with outlook mapi)

I was thinking just dumping the virtual machine's hard disk image to a ghost 
image etc... then just ghosting that over to a real hard drive, sticking it 
into the server and seeing if it boots. That way I just have to mess with 
configs.

-K







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Re: [SOGo] Problem First time installing sogo on Ubuntu 12.04

2013-02-19 Thread Wayland Sothcott

On 19/02/2013 00:29, administrator wrote:

I just created a sogo live iso, I'm not seeing it boot to an installer 
though... just drops me to the prompt after booting (wich is good at least). 
It's using the linux-generic kernel wich is also really good so it will boot on 
anything.

You were not paying attention :-)
The menu screen shows for a few moments before it boots into the live CD 
option.



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Re: [SOGo] ZEG burned to ISO DVD using remastersys

2013-02-19 Thread Wayland Sothcott
I just tried installing ZEG from the remastersys disk but I have learned 
that the install only works from the GUI and ZEG does not have GUI. I 
suppose I could install one before running remaster.


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[SOGo] ZEG to Google Android emulator Exchange email

2013-02-19 Thread Wayland Sothcott

OK, well MS Outlook 2003 works OK with ZEG as an Exchange server
I am now attempting to get Virtual Android 3.0 with Google Apps to talk 
to ZEG as an exchange server.
However it can't seem to connect with the server. I have the choice of 
using SSL or not. I am basically following the client Outlook 
instructions but there are no Android specific ones. I know it's 
networked OK because it can see the Internet and see my local LAN.

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[SOGo] ZEG burned to ISO DVD using remastersys

2013-02-18 Thread Wayland Sothcott

I put the Zero Effort Groupware image .vmdk into bootable ISO format!
I am now able to pop a Live DVD into an AMD64 machine and run ZEG on 
hardware rather than VMWare.

I can run it as live or install it.
This is handy for testing and could help build production hardware 
without having to start from scratch.


I have used Remastersys which works best with Ubuntu.

Start ZEG in VMWare.
Log into the ZEG terminal with sogo/sogo

Follow the Remastersys instructions for creating a Ubuntu ISO
http://geekconnection.org/remastersys/

Install FTP so you can download the file to your CD burning computer
apt-get install proftpd-basic ucf
chose:standalone

Get CuteFTP or whatever FTP package on your host computer
host: sogo
user: sogo
pw: sogo
Then download the ISO from /home/remastersys/remastersys/

Test this ISO by using it as the CD-ROM in a new virtual machine in 
VMWare Workstation.

Burn it to DVD (too big for CD) and test on target hardware.


Regards,
Wayland

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Re: [SOGo] ZEG: Outlook 2003 worked only once

2013-02-17 Thread Wayland Sothcott
Matthias Gasser mailing@... writes:

 
 to amend something more useful:
 
 here is the output of the samba.log:
 
 http://pastie.org/5451961
 
 It seems there is an issue with the kinit (kerberos)
 
 -Matthias
 
 On 28.11.2012, at 21:54, der.keim@... wrote:
 
  Hi,
  
  With the ZEG installation, I connected via Outlook 2003 to Sogo. It worked 
for
  the first time quite nice (except of missing sender names).
  
  But then no connection was possible anymore, a restart of sogo did also not
  help.
  
  Which log file should I investigate? What could have happened?
  
  
  Keim
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I have ZEG running and can email between sogo1 and sogo2 between two web 
browsers. However when I attached Outlook 2003 as per the Client instructions;
To configure Outlook:
It would not send emails nor show emails received by sogo1.
On the 2nd booting of Outlook it simply hangs.

Regards,
Wayland.





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Re: [SOGo] ZEG: Outlook 2003 worked only once

2013-02-17 Thread Wayland Sothcott

On 17/02/2013 17:16, Wayland Sothcott wrote:

Matthias Gasser mailing@... writes:


to amend something more useful:

here is the output of the samba.log:

http://pastie.org/5451961

It seems there is an issue with the kinit (kerberos)

-Matthias

On 28.11.2012, at 21:54, der.keim@... wrote:


Hi,

With the ZEG installation, I connected via Outlook 2003 to Sogo. It worked

for

the first time quite nice (except of missing sender names).

But then no connection was possible anymore, a restart of sogo did also not
help.

Which log file should I investigate? What could have happened?


Keim
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users@...
https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists

I have ZEG running and can email between sogo1 and sogo2 between two web
browsers. However when I attached Outlook 2003 as per the Client instructions;
To configure Outlook:
It would not send emails nor show emails received by sogo1.
On the 2nd booting of Outlook it simply hangs.

Regards,
Wayland.





OK, getting a bit further with this. The email side of Outlook 2003 
seems stable. However Contacts - Personal Address Book says The set of 
folders is unavailable. The server is not available



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