Re: [Fwd: Re: Getting off the Cloudmark formerly spamnet blacklist]

2009-11-13 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 12.11.09 13:55, Chris Hoogendyk wrote: I don't know about Linux viruses; BUT, I do remember less than ten years ago when it was virtually impossible to build a Linux box with a hot online connection, because you would get hacked before you could even download the patches. I had a

Re: [Fwd: Re: Getting off the Cloudmark formerly spamnet blacklist]

2009-11-13 Thread rich...@buzzhost.co.uk
On Fri, 2009-11-13 at 09:12 +0100, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 12.11.09 13:55, Chris Hoogendyk wrote: I don't know about Linux viruses; BUT, I do remember less than ten years ago when it was virtually impossible to build a Linux box with a hot online connection, because you would

Re: [Fwd: Re: Getting off the Cloudmark formerly spamnet blacklist]

2009-11-13 Thread Chris Hoogendyk
rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: On Fri, 2009-11-13 at 09:12 +0100, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 12.11.09 13:55, Chris Hoogendyk wrote: I don't know about Linux viruses; BUT, I do remember less than ten years ago when it was virtually impossible to build a Linux box with a hot

Re: [Fwd: Re: Getting off the Cloudmark formerly spamnet blacklist]

2009-11-13 Thread hamann . w
Caveats such as week passwords, open ports and advertising insecure services are the domain of poor administration and understanding - they are not Operating System dependent. Exempting organised spam gangs and their infrastructure, it's probably fair to say that most of the spam I

Re: [Fwd: Re: Getting off the Cloudmark formerly spamnet blacklist]

2009-11-13 Thread Benny Pedersen
On fre 13 nov 2009 18:26:07 CET, wrote One admin admitted that they were hacked through login guest / pass guest and this is a real hack :) -- xpoint

Re: [Fwd: Re: Getting off the Cloudmark formerly spamnet blacklist]

2009-11-13 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Fri, 2009-11-13 at 17:26 +, haman...@t-online.de wrote: I've only used Red Hat flavours of Linux since RH 6.2 so I can't speak for other distros, but here's my experience. Where IPs looked like machines in a computer center, I occasionally had a closer look and found newly created

Re: [Fwd: Re: Getting off the Cloudmark formerly spamnet blacklist]

2009-11-12 Thread Michael Scheidell
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Giampaolo Tomassoni wrote: Dream on. Obviously your a pro-Windows person and anti-Linux person and you cannot tolerate your image of Windows being torn down. I seriously doubt Giampaolo is 'pro-windows', and your argument started with me, thinking that somehow I was

Re: [Fwd: Re: Getting off the Cloudmark formerly spamnet blacklist]

2009-11-12 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
LuKreme wrote: On 11-Nov-2009, at 18:34, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: I will point out that MacOS 7, os* os9 were HIGHLY virus-prone, yet there were far fewer of them than OSX today. Er… that is simply not true. Not in anyway. As I recall, there were a total of 31 viruses for System 7 and one

Re: [Fwd: Re: Getting off the Cloudmark formerly spamnet blacklist]

2009-11-12 Thread Chris Hoogendyk
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: LuKreme wrote: On 11-Nov-2009, at 18:34, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: I will point out that MacOS 7, os* os9 were HIGHLY virus-prone, yet there were far fewer of them than OSX today. Er… that is simply not true. Not in anyway. As I recall, there were a total of 31

Re: [Fwd: Re: Getting off the Cloudmark formerly spamnet blacklist]

2009-11-12 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
Chris Hoogendyk wrote: Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: LuKreme wrote: On 11-Nov-2009, at 18:34, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: I will point out that MacOS 7, os* os9 were HIGHLY virus-prone, yet there were far fewer of them than OSX today. Er… that is simply not true. Not in anyway. As I recall, there

Re: [Fwd: Re: Getting off the Cloudmark formerly spamnet blacklist]

2009-11-12 Thread John Hardin
On Thu, 12 Nov 2009, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Chris Hoogendyk wrote: I also heard stories of my son doing battle with hackers who had gotten into his Linux system. Keep in mind that those were not the Linus-written Linux programs, those were programs like Telnet, Sendmail, etc. which

Re: [Fwd: Re: Getting off the Cloudmark formerly spamnet blacklist]

2009-11-12 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
Michael Scheidell wrote: Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Giampaolo Tomassoni wrote: Dream on. Obviously your a pro-Windows person and anti-Linux person and you cannot tolerate your image of Windows being torn down. I seriously doubt Giampaolo is 'pro-windows', and your argument started with me,

Re: [Fwd: Re: Getting off the Cloudmark formerly spamnet blacklist]

2009-11-12 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
John Hardin wrote: On Thu, 12 Nov 2009, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Chris Hoogendyk wrote: I also heard stories of my son doing battle with hackers who had gotten into his Linux system. Keep in mind that those were not the Linus-written Linux programs, those were programs like Telnet,

Re: [Fwd: Re: Getting off the Cloudmark formerly spamnet blacklist]

2009-11-12 Thread Michael Scheidell
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: PS, if your really the SA porter, thanks for your effort! easy enough to verify: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=scheidellstype=maintainer -- Michael Scheidell, CTO Phone: 561-999-5000, x 1259 *| *SECNAP Network Security Corporation * Certified

RE: [Fwd: Re: Getting off the Cloudmark formerly spamnet blacklist]

2009-11-11 Thread Giampaolo Tomassoni
Michael Scheidell wrote: ...omissis... If our clients were DELIBERATELY spamming, say they thought they were going to send out a marketing mail or some such, then you would be correct. But they were not. They were simply using the largest software company on Earth's products -

Re: [Fwd: Re: Getting off the Cloudmark formerly spamnet blacklist]

2009-11-11 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
Giampaolo Tomassoni wrote: Michael Scheidell wrote: ...omissis... If our clients were DELIBERATELY spamming, say they thought they were going to send out a marketing mail or some such, then you would be correct. But they were not. They were simply using the largest software company on

Re: [Fwd: Re: Getting off the Cloudmark formerly spamnet blacklist]

2009-11-11 Thread LuKreme
On 11-Nov-2009, at 18:34, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: I will point out that MacOS 7, os* os9 were HIGHLY virus-prone, yet there were far fewer of them than OSX today. Er… that is simply not true. Not in anyway. As I recall, there were a total of 31 viruses for System 7 and one CD-ROM worm for

[Fwd: Re: Getting off the Cloudmark formerly spamnet blacklist]

2009-11-10 Thread Michael Scheidell
if I reply to the mailing list and not you directly, you should reply to the mailing list. Original Message Subject:Re: Getting off the Cloudmark formerly spamnet blacklist Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:25:20 -0800 From: Ted Mittelstaedt t...@ipinc.net