RE: SA experts needed here - SPAM examples

2008-06-17 Thread John Hardin
On Tue, 17 Jun 2008, John Hardin wrote: There is your problem right there. Bayes will not start classifying messages until you have taught at least 100 each of ham and spam. Make that 200. D'oh! -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: SA experts needed here - SPAM examples

2008-06-17 Thread John Hardin
it is interfering with authenticated external connections, then you need to ask the qmail list why that is happening. Authenticated connections should *not* be affected by the blacklists you use. -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]FALaholic

Re: SARE fraud rulesets rotted?

2008-06-17 Thread John Hardin
On Tue, 2008-06-17 at 21:28 -0500, Chris wrote: On Tuesday 17 June 2008 10:29 am, John Hardin wrote: On Tue, 17 Jun 2008, ram wrote: 2.8 L_NOTVALID_GMAIL L_NOTVALID_GMAIL What are these rules L_NOTVALID_GMAIL , L_UNVERIFIED_GMAIL etc ? They're related to DKIM. Google

Re: skip inbox ?

2008-06-18 Thread John Hardin
mail client can probably support a rule that will move tagged messages to a different folder, or delete them. -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]FALaholic #11174 pgpk -a [EMAIL PROTECTED] key: 0xB8732E79 -- 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C

Re: skip inbox ?

2008-06-18 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 07:45 -0700, almaren wrote: John Hardin wrote: Tell us what does delivery (e.g. procmail) in your environment and someone may be able to tell you how to configure delivery of spammy messages to a spam folder. I'm running qmail as MTA and courier-imap

Re: how to stop SPF checks from going past trusted host?

2008-06-19 Thread John Hardin
\]) by arran\.svcolo\.com (/ score XX -5 -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]FALaholic #11174 pgpk -a [EMAIL PROTECTED] key: 0xB8732E79 -- 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C AF76 D822 E6E6 B873 2E79

Re: how to stop SPF checks from going past trusted host?

2008-06-19 Thread John Hardin
On Thu, 2008-06-19 at 20:54 -0700, John Hardin wrote: header XX Received =~ /from \S+\.svcolo\.com (\S+ \[10\.\d\.\d\.\d\]) by arran\.svcolo\.com (/ score XX -5 Oops. Need some plusses in there... /from \S+\.svcolo\.com (\S+ \[10\.\d+\.\d+\.\d+\]) by arran\.svcolo\.com (/ -- John

Re: how to stop SPF checks from going past trusted host?

2008-06-20 Thread John Hardin
On Fri, 20 Jun 2008, mouss wrote: John Hardin wrote: On Thu, 2008-06-19 at 20:54 -0700, John Hardin wrote: header XX Received =~ /from \S+\.svcolo\.com (\S+ \[10\.\d\.\d\.\d\]) by arran\.svcolo\.com (/ score XX -5 Oops. Need some plusses in there... /from \S+\.svcolo\.com (\S

Re: EuroPharmacie

2008-06-20 Thread John Hardin
to 6.2? All of the stock rules are tuned for 5.0, increasing the required score will increase your FN rate. -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]FALaholic #11174 pgpk -a [EMAIL PROTECTED] key: 0xB8732E79 -- 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C

Re: how to stop SPF checks from going past trusted host?

2008-06-20 Thread John Hardin
On Fri, 20 Jun 2008, Jo Rhett wrote: On Jun 19, 2008, at 9:21 PM, John Hardin wrote: /from \S+\.svcolo\.com (\S+ \[10\.\d+\.\d+\.\d+\]) by arran\.svcolo\.com (/ You actually need some backslashes too, but I figured it out. Thanks. D'oh! See my other note about trusted_hosts breaking all

Re: how to stop SPF checks from going past trusted host?

2008-06-20 Thread John Hardin
On Fri, 20 Jun 2008, Jo Rhett wrote: On Jun 20, 2008, at 11:49 AM, John Hardin wrote: 10.x is (supposedly) not routable on the public internet. If you see 10.x (or other RFC-1918) traffic coming in from the world, your ISP is broken. You don't run packet sniffers on your hosts much, do you

Re: Fake MX Record(s) Trick

2008-06-23 Thread John Hardin
On Mon, 23 Jun 2008, McDonald, Dan wrote: But I'm not convinced that twiddling with fake MX records will reduce your spam level any. Cue Mr. Perkel... :) -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]FALaholic #11174 pgpk -a [EMAIL

Re: hit frequencies (was Re: [Rule Set proposal] French Rules

2008-06-23 Thread John Hardin
that Justin can probably help you with. -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]FALaholic #11174 pgpk -a [EMAIL PROTECTED] key: 0xB8732E79 -- 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C AF76 D822 E6E6 B873 2E79

Re: prevent to set a score for a non existend rule

2008-06-23 Thread John Hardin
happening, why worry? -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]FALaholic #11174 pgpk -a [EMAIL PROTECTED] key: 0xB8732E79 -- 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C AF76 D822 E6E6 B873 2E79

Re: prevent to set a score for a non existend rule

2008-06-23 Thread John Hardin
should set JM_SOUGHT_3_ADJ to -1.8 if you want to get a net score of 2.2 for SOUGHT ruleset #3. -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]FALaholic #11174 pgpk -a [EMAIL PROTECTED] key: 0xB8732E79 -- 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C AF76 D822 E6E6

Re: prevent to set a score for a non existend rule

2008-06-24 Thread John Hardin
On Tue, 24 Jun 2008, Theo Van Dinter wrote: Has anyone thought to ask JM to make sure that 3 rules are always generated, even if the third one is empty ala: meta JM_SOUGHT_3 0 thereby skipping all of the kluging suggestions to work around it? No. Kludging is fun. -- John Hardin KA7OHZ

Re: Train and use bayes on different adresses

2008-06-26 Thread John Hardin
administrative stuff to their systems. -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]FALaholic #11174 pgpk -a [EMAIL PROTECTED] key: 0xB8732E79 -- 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C AF76 D822 E6E6 B873 2E79

Re: Train and use bayes on different adresses

2008-06-26 Thread John Hardin
On Thu, 26 Jun 2008, Florian Lindner wrote: Am 26.06.2008 um 18:26 schrieb John Hardin: On Thu, 26 Jun 2008, Florian Lindner wrote: Hello, I use (honestly: I plan) the following procedure to filter my spam using SA: All mails are piped through spamc. (emails for my family and me

Re: Train and use bayes on different adresses

2008-06-26 Thread John Hardin
family I want to leave it as it is. Fair enough. Can I use two different bayes DBs? One for my family without training (just the auto train functions) and one for me that is trained? ...that I don't know. Others may be able to comment. -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp

Re: Bayes initial learning curve

2008-06-27 Thread John Hardin
On Fri, 27 Jun 2008, Jason Marshall wrote: Is there a way to determine how far along in the initial 200-spam+200-ham training a given user is? Everyone has their own Bayes databases. Have that user run sa-learn --dump magic -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org

Re: Being Buried In Returned Email - Need To Mark Certain IPs

2008-06-29 Thread John Hardin
is invoked. Another alternative if you're using sendmail is to use milter-regex to look for that IP in a Received: header and reject the message with a 550 at SMTP time. -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]FALaholic #11174 pgpk

Re: Being Buried In Returned Email - Need To Mark Certain IPs

2008-06-29 Thread John Hardin
think it would be harder to add other offending IPs in the future. Not at all ... You can even drop the IP with a route command. Do: route add -host ip reject Not if the IP address you want to block is several MTA relay hops removed from you. -- John Hardin KA7OHZ

Re: Detecting the Registrar of the sending host?

2008-07-02 Thread John Hardin
this check against whois, but that's likely to be considered abusive. Look under here: http://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/antispam/ I'm not currently maintaining it, and the evil registrar list is stale and certainly not comprehensive. -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp

Re: Detecting the Registrar of the sending host?

2008-07-02 Thread John Hardin
from. But it may tell you something useful about URIs within the message. -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]FALaholic #11174 pgpk -a [EMAIL PROTECTED] key: 0xB8732E79 -- 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C AF76 D822 E6E6 B873 2E79

Re: Detecting the Registrar of the sending host?

2008-07-02 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 2 Jul 2008, Marc Perkel wrote: John Hardin wrote: On Wed, 2 Jul 2008, Marc Perkel wrote: Is there an easy way to detect the registrar of a domain through DNS? For example - can I easilly figure out if an email I'm processing is hosted by GoDaddy or Tucows? Registrar

Re: Detecting the Registrar of the sending host?

2008-07-02 Thread John Hardin
name doesn't get infected with a smapbot? -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]FALaholic #11174 pgpk -a [EMAIL PROTECTED] key: 0xB8732E79 -- 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C AF76 D822 E6E6 B873 2E79

Re: Detecting the Registrar of the sending host?

2008-07-02 Thread John Hardin
On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 05:59 +0300, Henrik K wrote: On Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 12:08:43PM -0700, John Hardin wrote: On Wed, 2 Jul 2008, Marc Perkel wrote: Again - it's not to figure out where spam comes from. It's figuring out where non-spam comes from. I think there are registrars out

Re: AW: After server reboot spam recognition rate wents down for some time

2008-07-07 Thread John Hardin
On Mon, 2008-07-07 at 07:58 +, Tobias Eichner wrote: From John Hardin: Wild-ass guess: do you have autolearn enabled, and a reboot script that clears the Bayes database? Yes, autolearn is enabled, but I just did the standard installation via CPAN... not sure if this included

Re: collecting mail for sa-learn, how to?

2008-07-14 Thread John Hardin
and the message is not already BAYES_00 or the score is high and the message is not already BAYES_99. However, this would be cloning users' mail (even if only temporarily), and you should obtain their consent before doing this. -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org

Re: SPF-check works, but Whitelist-by-SPF does not

2008-07-14 Thread John Hardin
not getting picked up. Are you sure you're checking the correct config file? -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]FALaholic #11174 pgpk -a [EMAIL PROTECTED] key: 0xB8732E79 -- 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C AF76 D822 E6E6 B873 2E79

Re: SPF-check works, but Whitelist-by-SPF does not

2008-07-14 Thread John Hardin
I'm editing. That's the sitewide config file, though, and the debug output explicitly says [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not in user's WHITELIST_FROM_SPF. -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]FALaholic #11174 pgpk -a [EMAIL PROTECTED] key

Re: collecting mail for sa-learn, how to?

2008-07-14 Thread John Hardin
. That won't require all users to use IMAP, with the resulting storage requirements on the server. -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]FALaholic #11174 pgpk -a [EMAIL PROTECTED] key: 0xB8732E79 -- 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C AF76 D822

Re: is bayes learning?

2010-02-18 Thread John Hardin
a look in http://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/antispam/ -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ jhar...@impsec.orgFALaholic #11174 pgpk -a jhar...@impsec.org key: 0xB8732E79 -- 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C AF76 D822 E6E6 B873 2E79

Re: T_FROM_MISSPACED score

2010-02-22 Thread John Hardin
On Mon, 22 Feb 2010, RW wrote: Why does T_FROM_MISSPACED score 0.0, when it's score isn't defined? Rounding. The actual defined score is 0.01, so it rounds down when reported. X-Spam-Report: ... * 0.0 T_FROM_MISSPACED From: missing whitespace -- John Hardin KA7OHZ

Re: T_FROM_MISSPACED score

2010-02-22 Thread John Hardin
On Mon, 22 Feb 2010, RW wrote: On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 08:05:10 -0800 (PST) John Hardin jhar...@impsec.org wrote: On Mon, 22 Feb 2010, RW wrote: Why does T_FROM_MISSPACED score 0.0, when it's score isn't defined? Rounding. The actual defined score is 0.01, so it rounds down when reported

Re: T_FROM_MISSPACED score

2010-02-22 Thread John Hardin
On Mon, 22 Feb 2010, RW wrote: I'm aware of __* rules, but I'd not noticed T_* rules before. And looking back through my spam I don't see any hits until a couple of weeks ago, so presumably something has changed. Wait, you're seeing this in a live SA install? -- John Hardin KA7OHZ

Re: T_FROM_MISSPACED score

2010-02-22 Thread John Hardin
On Mon, 22 Feb 2010, Art Greenberg wrote: On Mon, 22 Feb 2010, John Hardin wrote: On Mon, 22 Feb 2010, RW wrote: I'm aware of __* rules, but I'd not noticed T_* rules before. And looking back through my spam I don't see any hits until a couple of weeks ago, so presumably something

Re: Phish - two simple techniques that make the obvious tests viable

2010-02-24 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010, Chip M. wrote: Note that an IP-based exception must be made for Paypal (the From domain is always different for user transactions). I'd wager whitelist_auth is a better way to do that. -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ jhar

Re: Bogus Dollar Amounts

2010-02-24 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010, Dennis B. Hopp wrote: I guess it doesn't really matter since the message was actually hitting another rule (T_LOTS_OF_MONEY) that I somehow missed. It also hits some of the testing ADVANCE_FEE_NEW rules. I hope to bring those live soon... -- John Hardin KA7OHZ

Re: Bogus Dollar Amounts

2010-02-25 Thread John Hardin
On Thu, 25 Feb 2010, ram wrote: http://pastebin.com/6c9sEEn9 i still see lot of junk mail coming with different charecters, i do not even read them clearly how can i stop those kind of emails Reject languages you can't read at SMTP time? -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp

Re: Bogus Dollar Amounts

2010-02-25 Thread John Hardin
On Thu, 25 Feb 2010, Dennis B. Hopp wrote: What is the HK_MUCHMONEY rule that you have? Is that part of the base SA installation? It's a sandbox rule that got promoted. I'm working on a set of money rules that will supercede it. -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp

Re: Off-topic? Off-list!

2010-02-25 Thread John Hardin
On Thu, 25 Feb 2010, Jason Bertoch wrote: On 2/25/2010 6:26 PM, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: Please, guys, let it go. If you *know* this ain't the right place, stop it. +1 +1 Please take it to alt.advocacy.spf.headdesk.headdesk.headdesk -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp

Re: Off Topic - SPF - What a Disaster

2010-02-25 Thread John Hardin
it tiresome, bothersome, pointless, or all of the above. ... /out The forward issue is definitely an annoyance. But SPF has a problem in that as the supporters admit, it doesn't block spam, ... Followups-To: alt.advocacy.spf.headdesk.headdesk.headdesk.headdesk.headdesk -- John Hardin KA7OHZ

Re: Custom Rules Question

2010-02-28 Thread John Hardin
On Sat, 27 Feb 2010, Michael Dilworth wrote: style garbage... /style If you're looking for nonsense STYLE content, take a look in my sandbox. -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ jhar...@impsec.orgFALaholic #11174 pgpk -a jhar...@impsec.org key

Re: Finding URLs in html attachments

2010-02-28 Thread John Hardin
respectfully suggest this may no longer be a reasonable position, at least for plain text and HTML attachments... Please correct me if I've misunderstood. -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ jhar...@impsec.orgFALaholic #11174 pgpk -a jhar...@impsec.org key

Re: Finding URLs in html attachments

2010-03-01 Thread John Hardin
On Mon, 1 Mar 2010, Benny Pedersen wrote: On man 01 mar 2010 02:37:37 CET, John Hardin wrote I've suggested this before, but the current position appears to be if the MUA doesn't display it automatically, why should we scan it? same goes for just enter this url when the sender was tired

Re: [sa] Re: Finding URLs in html attachments

2010-03-01 Thread John Hardin
well in a meta rule with certain buzz phrases from the text portions of the e-mail. ...or look into the TextExtract plugin as Benny suggested. -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ jhar...@impsec.orgFALaholic #11174 pgpk -a jhar...@impsec.org key

Re: Finding URLs in html attachments

2010-03-02 Thread John Hardin
|| OBFU_TEXT_ATTACH || OBFU_DOC_ATTACH || OBFU_PDF_ATTACH) describe OBFU_ATTACH_MISSP Obfuscated attachment type and misspaced From endif -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ jhar...@impsec.orgFALaholic #11174 pgpk -a jhar...@impsec.org key: 0xB8732E79 -- 2D8C

Re: Finding URLs in html attachments

2010-03-02 Thread John Hardin
On Tue, 2 Mar 2010, John Hardin wrote: Would you be willing to test this and see how well it does in practice? {grumble} reply-to {grumble} Sorry for spamming the list with this, it was meant just for Chip. -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ jhar

Re: Hidden Dir in URI (Was: FreeMail plugin updated - banks)

2010-03-08 Thread John Hardin
}/\..(?!/); -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ jhar...@impsec.orgFALaholic #11174 pgpk -a jhar...@impsec.org key: 0xB8732E79 -- 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C AF76 D822 E6E6 B873 2E79

Re: Hidden Dir in URI (Was: FreeMail plugin updated - banks)

2010-03-08 Thread John Hardin
On Mon, 8 Mar 2010, Ned Slider wrote: John Hardin wrote: On Mon, 8 Mar 2010, Ned Slider wrote: So I've refined the rule to specifically exclude hitting on the sequence ../. which stops the rule triggering on multiple relative paths. uriLOCAL_URI_HIDDEN_DIR/(?!.{6

Re: problem with the Bayesian filter

2010-03-09 Thread John Hardin
scheduled at a time when your imbound email volume is low. -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ jhar...@impsec.orgFALaholic #11174 pgpk -a jhar...@impsec.org key: 0xB8732E79 -- 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C AF76 D822 E6E6 B873 2E79

Re: Inconsistent Application of Rules?

2010-03-10 Thread John Hardin
you post the original headers. It looks like a simple matter of a very short spam with a URI that wasn't broadly recognized as bad the first time you saw it. Train your bayes with it, and consider adding greylisting to give the URIBLs a chance to get updated with new spam domains. -- John

Re: Inconsistent Application of Rules?

2010-03-11 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 10 Mar 2010, Stephen Carville wrote: On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 9:14 AM, John Hardin jhar...@impsec.org wrote: It looks like a simple matter of a very short spam with a URI that wasn't broadly recognized as bad the first time you saw it. Train your bayes with it, and consider adding

Re: Hidden Dir in URI

2010-03-13 Thread John Hardin
On Mon, 8 Mar 2010, Ned Slider wrote: John Hardin wrote: On Mon, 8 Mar 2010, Ned Slider wrote: So I've refined the rule to specifically exclude hitting on the sequence ../. which stops the rule triggering on multiple relative paths. uriLOCAL_URI_HIDDEN_DIR/(?!.{6

Re: whitelist_from and whitelst_from_rcvd

2010-03-15 Thread John Hardin
options won't work. -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ jhar...@impsec.orgFALaholic #11174 pgpk -a jhar...@impsec.org key: 0xB8732E79 -- 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C AF76 D822 E6E6 B873 2E79

Re: whitelist_from and whitelst_from_rcvd

2010-03-15 Thread John Hardin
who have authenticated against your MTA. Please check the list archives and the Wiki. -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ jhar...@impsec.orgFALaholic #11174 pgpk -a jhar...@impsec.org key: 0xB8732E79 -- 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C AF76 D822 E6E6 B873

Re: whitelist_from and whitelst_from_rcvd

2010-03-16 Thread John Hardin
On Tue, 16 Mar 2010, Ron wrote: On 3/16/2010 12:51 AM, John Hardin wrote: Are you authenticating your users in any way? There are ways to whitelist users who have authenticated against your MTA. Please check the list archives and the Wiki. yes i am using vchkpw to auth users. are you

Re: whitelist_from and whitelst_from_rcvd

2010-03-16 Thread John Hardin
in the first place. regards Ron On 3/16/2010 11:16 PM, John Hardin wrote: On Tue, 16 Mar 2010, Ron wrote: On 3/16/2010 12:51 AM, John Hardin wrote: Are you authenticating your users in any way? There are ways to whitelist users who have authenticated against your MTA. Please check

Re: whitelist_from and whitelst_from_rcvd

2010-03-16 Thread John Hardin
On Tue, 16 Mar 2010, John Hardin wrote: header POGO_CUSTOMER Received =~ /\(\...@pinoyonthego\.net\@[\d\.]+\).*by mail\.pinoyonthego\.net/ Watch the line wrap on that... -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ jhar...@impsec.orgFALaholic #11174

Re: Pathological messages causing long scan times

2010-03-18 Thread John Hardin
72_active.cf. I'll look into it. -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ jhar...@impsec.orgFALaholic #11174 pgpk -a jhar...@impsec.org key: 0xB8732E79 -- 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C AF76 D822 E6E6 B873 2E79

Re: Pathological messages causing long scan times

2010-03-18 Thread John Hardin
On Thu, 18 Mar 2010, John Hardin wrote: On Fri, 19 Mar 2010, Mark Martinec wrote: On Thursday March 18 2010 23:18:56 Justin Mason wrote: that's CPU-bound, no system calls = regexp matching. body, rawbody or full rules. Yes, it's terrible, takes 4 minutes here (SA 3.3, perl 5.10.1

Re: Cyrillic text isn't matched when quoted-printable (?!)

2010-03-19 Thread John Hardin
Save another version of your rules encoded in windows-1251? -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ jhar...@impsec.orgFALaholic #11174 pgpk -a jhar...@impsec.org key: 0xB8732E79 -- 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C AF76 D822 E6E6 B873 2E79

Re: Pathological messages causing long scan times

2010-03-20 Thread John Hardin
On Thu, 18 Mar 2010, John Hardin wrote: On Thu, 18 Mar 2010, John Hardin wrote: On Fri, 19 Mar 2010, Mark Martinec wrote: The offending rule is FILL_THIS_FORM_LONG from 72_active.cf. I'll look into it. Fix is in local masscheck testing. Fix committed. -- John Hardin KA7OHZ

Re: need to uninstall Spamassassin 3.3.1

2010-03-22 Thread John Hardin
out, rpm -e {fileglob} doesn't work because the fileglob returns filenames, _not_ package names. -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ jhar...@impsec.orgFALaholic #11174 pgpk -a jhar...@impsec.org key: 0xB8732E79 -- 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C AF76

Re: Botnet plugin still relevant?

2010-03-22 Thread John Hardin
to whitelist them and offset legitimate results like those above. -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ jhar...@impsec.orgFALaholic #11174 pgpk -a jhar...@impsec.org key: 0xB8732E79 -- 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C AF76 D822 E6E6 B873 2E79

Re: FREEMAIL_REPLY

2010-03-22 Thread John Hardin
. What else hit on that message? -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ jhar...@impsec.orgFALaholic #11174 pgpk -a jhar...@impsec.org key: 0xB8732E79 -- 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C AF76 D822 E6E6 B873 2E79

Re: FREEMAIL_REPLY

2010-03-22 Thread John Hardin
On Mon, 22 Mar 2010, Jason Bertoch wrote: On 2010/03/22 12:26 PM, John Hardin wrote: On Mon, 22 Mar 2010, Jason Bertoch wrote: Should FREEMAIL_REPLY really be looking in attachments Sure. Just looking at the presence of freemail domains, there's nothing to distinguish the mail you got

Re: Botnet plugin still relevant?

2010-03-22 Thread John Hardin
the mail from a suspicious IP address is legitimate and wanted. -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ jhar...@impsec.orgFALaholic #11174 pgpk -a jhar...@impsec.org key: 0xB8732E79 -- 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C AF76 D822 E6E6 B873 2E79

Re: Installation error on Windows Server 2008 / 64-bit

2010-03-22 Thread John Hardin
On Mon, 22 Mar 2010, weirdbeardmt wrote: What else can I try? Running it on a *NIX box like God intended? GDR... :) To be serious, have you considered setting up a Linux VM that is dedicated to hosting spamd? -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ jhar

Re: Installation error on Windows Server 2008 / 64-bit

2010-03-22 Thread John Hardin
On Mon, 22 Mar 2010, weirdbeardmt wrote: John Hardin wrote: To be serious, have you considered setting up a Linux VM that is dedicated to hosting spamd? If only it was that simple. SA is actually required as a component of a bigger system which actually has NO business being near a Windows

Re: Bayes is causing MySQL performance issues

2010-03-26 Thread John Hardin
- and 12 hours of bayes data isn't that many rows. My first response to those symptoms as a DBA is to ask, is there a missing (or disabled) index? It sounds like full table scans rather than proper indexed lookups. -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ jhar

RE: ATTN DEVELOPERS: Mega-Spam

2010-03-29 Thread John Hardin
received. -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ jhar...@impsec.orgFALaholic #11174 pgpk -a jhar...@impsec.org key: 0xB8732E79 -- 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C AF76 D822 E6E6 B873 2E79

RE: ATTN DEVELOPERS: Mega-Spam

2010-03-29 Thread John Hardin
and then. Ahh but the learning db might be an issue oh well just a thought. A second VM hosting the bayes DB on MYSQL or Postgres. That way you can drop-in upgrade the SA vm without destabilizing the bayes DB VM. -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ jhar

Re: ATTN DEVELOPERS: Mega-Spam

2010-03-30 Thread John Hardin
of bots. -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ jhar...@impsec.orgFALaholic #11174 pgpk -a jhar...@impsec.org key: 0xB8732E79 -- 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C AF76 D822 E6E6 B873 2E79

Re: Limit SA to scan messages 100k and below

2010-04-01 Thread John Hardin
a user is actually waiting on. -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ jhar...@impsec.orgFALaholic #11174 pgpk -a jhar...@impsec.org key: 0xB8732E79 -- 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C AF76 D822 E6E6 B873 2E79

Re: Rule optimisation question

2010-04-02 Thread John Hardin
sufficiently restricted that unlimited globs can't affect SA's performance? URIs are already restricted to the URI itself so you don't need to worry. You might want to do them anyway for consistency's sake, and to help develop the habit. -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp

Re: skipping dynamic tests for ISP's own dynamic networks?

2010-04-03 Thread John Hardin
for the IP spaces you trust and add some negative points. -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ jhar...@impsec.orgFALaholic #11174 pgpk -a jhar...@impsec.org key: 0xB8732E79 -- 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C AF76 D822 E6E6 B873 2E79

Re: Limit SA to scan messages 100k and below

2010-04-04 Thread John Hardin
deliver the message unscanned, or return it to the queue to try again later. I have to ask, is your mail really so time-critical that you're not willing to wait two minutes for spamd do to its job? -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ jhar...@impsec.org

Re: Freemail Rule help

2010-04-06 Thread John Hardin
On Tue, 6 Apr 2010, Ned Slider wrote: uri LOCAL_URI_BITLY m{https?://bit\.ly/\w{6}} describeLOCAL_URI_BITLY contains bit.ly link bit.ly is a legitimate URL-shortening service. Are you sure you want to penalize them? -- John Hardin KA7OHZ

Re: Freemail Rule help

2010-04-06 Thread John Hardin
On Tue, 6 Apr 2010, Ned Slider wrote: John Hardin wrote: On Tue, 6 Apr 2010, Ned Slider wrote: uriLOCAL_URI_BITLY m{https?://bit\.ly/\w{6}} describe LOCAL_URI_BITLY contains bit.ly link bit.ly is a legitimate URL-shortening service. Are you sure you want

Re: Freemail Rule help

2010-04-06 Thread John Hardin
... I'll throw it in the sandbox and see what likely combinations present themselves. It'll take a couple of days. -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ jhar...@impsec.orgFALaholic #11174 pgpk -a jhar...@impsec.org key: 0xB8732E79 -- 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507

Re: newbie for spam optimisation

2010-04-07 Thread John Hardin
. -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ jhar...@impsec.orgFALaholic #11174 pgpk -a jhar...@impsec.org key: 0xB8732E79 -- 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C AF76 D822 E6E6 B873 2E79 --- Watch

Re: newbie for spam optimisation

2010-04-08 Thread John Hardin
On Thu, 8 Apr 2010, ram wrote: On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 12:27 AM, John Hardin jhar...@impsec.org wrote: On Wed, 7 Apr 2010, ram wrote: i need to created seperate user for this like s...@domain.com, is this correct. No, you don't _need_ a special user in your domain to catch spam

Re: AWL

2010-04-09 Thread John Hardin
...? -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ jhar...@impsec.orgFALaholic #11174 pgpk -a jhar...@impsec.org key: 0xB8732E79 -- 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C AF76 D822 E6E6 B873 2E79

Re: Mail Marked Spam For VPN Users

2010-04-12 Thread John Hardin
of the mail server? If they are connecting to the _public_ IP address then the fact that they are using a VPN is probably irrelevant as traffic isn't traversing the VPN. I suspect this is a VPN configuration issue, not a SA issue. -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin

Re: __TO_EQ_FROM and related rules

2010-04-13 Thread John Hardin
On Tue, 13 Apr 2010, Christer Boräng wrote: __TO_EQ_FROM_1 and _2 in 72_matching.cf triggers on emails where To: isn't the same as From: in certain conditions. Thanks, I'll take a look at those. -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ jhar...@impsec.org

Re: __TO_EQ_FROM and related rules

2010-04-13 Thread John Hardin
the last character of the addr-spec. If that character exists in the last of the two headers, the rule will match. Fix committed. -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ jhar...@impsec.orgFALaholic #11174 pgpk -a jhar...@impsec.org key: 0xB8732E79

Re: How do I filter out phishing email?

2010-04-14 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 14 Apr 2010, Jari Fredriksson wrote: Please do not post spammy mail to the list (it poisons our Bayes with spammy tokens with hammy score). If you're running SA list emails through SA you deserve what you get. :) -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org

Re: How do I filter out phishing email?

2010-04-14 Thread John Hardin
. All messages from the SA list should be hammy. A mailing list about spam detection shouldn't discuss actual samples of spam to detect? The primary reason for posting samples to pastebin et all is to prevent the mangling that sending them through the mail will inevitably cause. -- John Hardin

Re: How do I filter out phishing email?

2010-04-16 Thread John Hardin
On Fri, 16 Apr 2010, Benny Pedersen wrote: On ons 14 apr 2010 23:28:38 CEST, John Hardin wrote Please do not post spammy mail to the list (it poisons our Bayes with spammy tokens with hammy score). If you're running SA list emails through SA you deserve what you get. :) for sa 3.3.2

Re: More freemail URI spam

2010-04-17 Thread John Hardin
On Sat, 17 Apr 2010, Alex wrote: I'm hoping someone can help me with a rule to catch URI spam variation from freemail domains: http://pastebin.com/SkrKykYj You might want to look into the old Chickenpox rule. -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ jhar

Re: More freemail URI spam

2010-04-17 Thread John Hardin
that Chicken pox has recently are primarily due to non-English languages. If your mail stream includes non-English text, you might look into the FP rate and consider a meta with the charset or some other language indicator to reduce the score for it on non-English messages. -- John Hardin KA7OHZ

Re: SPF_FAIL with SPF mechanism a?

2010-04-17 Thread John Hardin
On Sat, 17 Apr 2010, Benny Pedersen wrote: meta SPF_FULL_PASS (SPF_PASS SPF_HELO_PASS) if one of the corpus maintainers like to add it into there rule set, then please do, John ? Checked into my sandbox as __SPF_FULL_PASS It should appear on ruleqa in a couple of days. -- John Hardin

Re: SORBS

2010-04-20 Thread John Hardin
dependice, why care ? You're kidding, right, Benny? Why care that the ISP providing my IP addresses can't be bothered to properly manage it? Are you saying that freemail services or ISP-provided mail accounts are all anyone needs? -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp

Re: expedia emails broken, anyone got a contact?

2010-04-22 Thread John Hardin
is generating. -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ jhar...@impsec.orgFALaholic #11174 pgpk -a jhar...@impsec.org key: 0xB8732E79 -- 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C AF76 D822 E6E6 B873 2E79

Re: bypass spam check if SPF is OK

2010-04-22 Thread John Hardin
publishing valid SPF records for their sources and thus whitelisting themselves to you? Whitelisting on SPF Pass + specific trusted domains is reasonable, and the place to do that is in your MTA. -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ jhar...@impsec.org

Re: bypass spam check if SPF is OK

2010-04-22 Thread John Hardin
is reasonable, and the place to do that is in your MTA. -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ jhar...@impsec.orgFALaholic #11174 pgpk -a jhar...@impsec.org key: 0xB8732E79 -- 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C AF76 D822 E6E6 B873 2E79

Re: Legitimate mail flagged as Spam

2010-04-23 Thread John Hardin
? MIME_BASE64_BLANKS - verify that your body parts are being encoded into base64 properly. -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ jhar...@impsec.orgFALaholic #11174 pgpk -a jhar...@impsec.org key: 0xB8732E79 -- 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C AF76 D822 E6E6

Re: new kind of spam (apparently from mailer daemon)

2010-04-26 Thread John Hardin
legitimate mailer daemon notifications as ham so that it will learn the difference. -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ jhar...@impsec.orgFALaholic #11174 pgpk -a jhar...@impsec.org key: 0xB8732E79 -- 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C AF76 D822 E6E6 B873 2E79

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