Re: Seeking advice as to what platform/framework to use for developing a tourism/tourist attractions web site

2008-05-03 Thread qm westview
Hi guys, Thanks a million for your helpful replies. I suppose I get your points and seem to me you all talk along same principle line but focus may be on different segments. So all suggestions and ideas appear coherent to me. Initial support requirement should be very basic, e.g. not including

Re: Seeking advice as to what platform/framework to use for developing a tourism/tourist attractions web site

2008-05-02 Thread Lyallex
Greetings I guess given the lack of replies that most think this is too OT for this list, well I suppose it is but I couldn't resist answering. Don't Do It That is, don't use any framework at all. Download Tomcat and the relevant J2EE API documentation bundle, then goto the MySQL site and get

Re: Seeking advice as to what platform/framework to use for developing a tourism/tourist attractions web site

2008-05-02 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
I actually agree with Lyallex quite strongly, I found very little value in *any* of the frameworks out there today, and in fact I'm starting to believe most of them are counterproductive. However, that's not to say I think plain servlets and JSPs is the absolute best answer either... since

[OT] RE: Seeking advice as to what platform/framework to use for developing a tourism/tourist attractions web site

2008-05-02 Thread Peter Crowther
From: Lyallex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Seeking advice as to what platform/framework to use for developing a tourism/tourist attractions web site Greetings I guess given the lack of replies that most think this is too OT for this list, well I suppose it is but I couldn't

Re: Seeking advice as to what platform/framework to use for developing a tourism/tourist attractions web site

2008-05-02 Thread Lyallex
On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Frank W. Zammetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I actually agree with Lyallex quite strongly, ..no, you don't, you can't, well actually you do, so I'm not going mad then, fabulous. No Idea what DWR is and the idea of writing more of my app in javascript leaves me a

Re: [OT] RE: Seeking advice as to what platform/framework to use for developing a tourism/tourist attractions web site

2008-05-02 Thread Lyallex
Peter Never suggested the OP develop carts and such like from scratch really did I. What I said was he should focus on learning the core APIs, that's a little different. Building your own business logic is a requirement whatever framework you use (or don't use). If you can tell me where to find

Re: [OT] RE: Seeking advice as to what platform/framework to use for developing a tourism/tourist attractions web site

2008-05-02 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
Peter's point is valid though... you could certainly build the site in PHP for example and just drop in a bunch of pre-existing modules for a shopping cart, blog, that sort of thing, then just write some basic PHP pages to tie it all together. For example, my web host has this Fantastico

Re: Seeking advice as to what platform/framework to use for developing a tourism/tourist attractions web site

2008-05-02 Thread David kerber
Lyallex wrote: Greetings I guess given the lack of replies that most think this is too OT for this list, well I suppose it is but I couldn't resist answering. Don't Do It That is, don't use any framework at all. Download Tomcat and the relevant J2EE API documentation bundle, then goto the

Re: [OT] RE: Seeking advice as to what platform/framework to use for developing a tourism/tourist attractions web site

2008-05-02 Thread David kerber
Peter Crowther wrote: From: Lyallex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Seeking advice as to what platform/framework to use for developing a tourism/tourist attractions web site Greetings I guess given the lack of replies that most think this is too OT for this list, well I suppose it is

RE: [OT] RE: Seeking advice as to what platform/framework to use for developing a tourism/tourist attractions web site

2008-05-02 Thread Peter Crowther
From: David kerber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Not using a framework isn't quite the same thing as not using available packages and libraries. Entirely true. However, many (though not all) of the existing packages assume particular frameworks. If anyone wants a glimpse of a possible nightmare

Re: [OT] RE: Seeking advice as to what platform/framework to use for developing a tourism/tourist attractions web site

2008-05-02 Thread David kerber
Peter Crowther wrote: From: David kerber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Not using a framework isn't quite the same thing as not using available packages and libraries. Entirely true. However, many (though not all) of the existing packages assume particular frameworks. If anyone wants a

Re: [OT] RE: Seeking advice as to what platform/framework to use for developing a tourism/tourist attractions web site

2008-05-02 Thread Lyallex
I agree with others on the list that *for other purposes* starting at the basics and working up is the way to go. I may have a different view of what basics is, given that I *think* I still carry around enough in my head that I could design a functional (if basic) computer from the discrete

Re: Seeking advice as to what platform/framework to use for developing a tourism/tourist attractions web site

2008-05-02 Thread Johnny Kewl
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