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Betreff: Re: How do you achieve persistency
I use Cayenne (http://cayenne.apache.org/). The GUI tool eliminates
any requirement to deal with XML and maps all
Why would you replace the Wicket filter ?
You can have multiple filters defined in your web.xml , they are chained by
your application server.
2009/10/7 Peter Arnulf Lustig u...@yahoo.de
Great piece of software!
But how did you manage to replace
the web.xml filterclass into:
Cayenne needs his own filter.
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Why would you replace the Wicket filter ?
You can
Interesting, but how would you provide transactional isolation so you do not
experience phantom or dirty reads?
2009/10/6 Igor Vaynberg igor.vaynb...@gmail.com
i think all the suggestions you have gotten until now are
overcomplicated and have a high learning curve. i think the easiest
and
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Why would you replace the Wicket filter ?
You can have multiple filters defined in your web.xml , they are chained by
your application
lock files :)
-igor
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 3:27 AM, James Perry
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Interesting, but how would you provide transactional isolation so you do not
experience phantom or dirty reads?
2009/10/6 Igor Vaynberg igor.vaynb...@gmail.com
i think all the suggestions
directory name (with a capital). This immediately makes
it an ORM solution. Inheritance hierarchies can be created by
symlinking the instances to each super type's directory.
Martijn
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Armstrong:
I use Cayenne (http://cayenne.apache.org/). The GUI tool eliminates
any requirement to deal with XML and maps all relationships for you.
Interesting. I also use Cayenne (with Databinder, but I'm doubting more
and more
directory.
Martijn
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On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 5:52 PM, James Carman
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What about queries against your persistent storage tier? Wouldn't
that be quite slow?
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What's the fast and easy way?
I am asking because of a lot of trouble with hibernate.
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I use Cayenne (http://cayenne.apache.org/). The GUI tool eliminates
any requirement to deal with XML and maps all relationships for you.
You can also tweak the XML but its not required or recommended.
My workflow is to build my database directly in SQL and then point
Cayenne at it and get my
Hmm, Im free todo what I want, I use hibernate+JPA if theres no db I model
it in java and if I have the db I reverse engineer it with JPA tools from
eclipse so that It generates my POJO's..
2009/10/6 Peter Arnulf Lustig u...@yahoo.de
What's the fast and easy way?
I am asking because of a
Assembler!
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What's the fast and easy way?
I am asking because of a lot of trouble with hibernate.
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On a more serious note then perhaps just using raw JDBC if you are unsure of
ORM concepts.
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 4:03 PM, James Perry james.austin.pe...@gmail.comwrote:
Assembler!
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Peter Arnulf Lustig u...@yahoo.dewrote:
What's the fast and easy way?
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 11:05 AM, James Perry
james.austin.pe...@gmail.com wrote:
On a more serious note then perhaps just using raw JDBC if you are unsure of
ORM concepts.
Isn't that kind of like saying I suggest you walk everywhere you want
to go if you're unfamiliar with how to drive a car?
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 5:42 PM, James Carman
jcar...@carmanconsulting.com wrote:
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 11:05 AM, James Perry
james.austin.pe...@gmail.com wrote:
On a more serious note then perhaps just using raw JDBC if you are unsure of
ORM concepts.
Isn't that kind of like saying I
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Erik Post eriksen...@gmail.com wrote:
That's fairly sound advice though, isn't it? And may I add may own two
cents in suggesting iBatis if you prefer SQL to things like JPA or
Hibernate?
I don't know if I'd call it sound advice. Sure, walking can give you
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 5:55 PM, James Carman
jcar...@carmanconsulting.com wrote:
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Erik Post eriksen...@gmail.com wrote:
That's fairly sound advice though, isn't it? And may I add may own two
cents in suggesting iBatis if you prefer SQL to things like JPA or
give you hints on what
specific tool would be best for you.
Cheers,
Daniel
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What's the fast and easy way?
I am asking because of a lot of trouble with hibernate.
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On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 12:32 PM, dtoffe dto...@yahoo.com.ar wrote:
So our fast and easy way is to use code generation to get JDBC based
DAOs that wrap the stored procs call. We even keep writing stored procs for
new requirements, all our devs know SQL well and I don't believe we will
gain
There are many ways to skin a cat. Personally I like to use machine code to
give it a slow, painful death.
Best,
James.
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 4:42 PM, James Carman
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On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 11:05 AM, James Perry
james.austin.pe...@gmail.com wrote:
On a more
I've just finished up my first Wicket + ORM project. I knew nothing
about ORM when I started, so I decided to go with Hibernate since it
seems to be the most commonly used. It was both painful and
educational.
My only suggestion is to suck it up and put in the effort it will take
to learn it. I'm
I use a product called JPersist - no XML, just POJOs. Has built in pooling.
I instantiate the DatabaseManager in the web application and use a getter.
http://www.jpersist.org
It has a list of tested databases, but I use Microsoft SQL. Haven't had too
many issues with it.
On Tue, Oct 6,
my logic out
of stored procedures as much as I can.
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What's the fast and easy way?
I am asking because of a lot of trouble with hibernate.
You can use an object database (like DB4O) that doesn't require ORM.
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i think all the suggestions you have gotten until now are
overcomplicated and have a high learning curve. i think the easiest
and fastest way to achieve persistency is to use a database that all
operating systems already have - the file system.
each table is a directory, each entity is simply a
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On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 14:02:56 -0700, Igor Vaynberg wrote:
i think all the suggestions you have gotten until now are
overcomplicated and have a high learning curve. i think the easiest and
fastest way to achieve persistency is to use a database that all
operating systems already have - the file
All you really need is a good database browser.
http://mh-nexus.de/en/hxd/
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Sam Stainsby
s...@sustainablesoftware.com.au wrote:
On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 14:02:56 -0700, Igor Vaynberg wrote:
i think all the suggestions you have gotten until now are
overcomplicated
Peter,
If you already used Hibernate, then you probalbly don't want to deal
with raw JDBC anymore. JPA is the new standard, and even Hibernate is
compatible with it. I use NetBeans + EJB 3.0 including JPA + Wicket
which looks like an easy combination to me. On that level, if your
persistence
i dont think anyone on the wicket team is biased against ejb or jpa.
what we are biased against are people who believe that just because
something is a standard it is inherently good.
-igor
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 2:30 PM, b...@actrix.gen.nz wrote:
Peter,
If you already used Hibernate, then
I would use the package names as directories and the class names as
the inner most directory name (with a capital). This immediately makes
it an ORM solution. Inheritance hierarchies can be created by
symlinking the instances to each super type's directory.
Martijn
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 11:02
What about queries against your persistent storage tier? Wouldn't
that be quite slow?
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Martijn Dashorst
martijn.dasho...@gmail.com wrote:
I would use the package names as directories and the class names as
the inner most directory name (with a capital). This
pft, just use a lucene file crawler, you get super fast searching for free!
-igor
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 5:52 PM, James Carman
jcar...@carmanconsulting.com wrote:
What about queries against your persistent storage tier? Wouldn't
that be quite slow?
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Martijn
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