Re: [xwiki-users] The new GWT-based WYSIWYG editor doesn't support the syntax

2010-06-04 Thread Marius Dumitru Florea
Hi Lee,

Add com.xpn.xwiki.wysiwyg.server.plugin.WysiwygPlugin to xwiki.plugins 
in xwiki.cfg and the editor will work.

Hope this helps,
Marius

On 06/03/2010 07:05 PM, Lee Chalupa wrote:

 Sorry if this is a double post. I was informed that my last post was not
 accepted since I was not subscribed to this mailing list.

 Does anyone know what this message means? I recently converted from 1.4 to
 2.3 of Enterprise and now when I try to create a new page, I get this
 message.

 

 The new GWT-based WYSIWYG editor doesn't support the syntax of the current
 document: xwiki/2.0.
 


 I've searched xwiki documentation including FAQ but I can't find anything on
 this subject.

 Does this xwiki application document error messages someplace?

 I'm stuck. Can someone give me some ideas on where to look for answers.

 Lee

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Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Rights Management UI

2010-06-04 Thread Denis Gervalle
Hi Caty,

On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 18:09, Ecaterina Valica vali...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Denis,

 I want to thank you again for all the help you are giving :P


This is pleasure to participate especially because you provide really good
proposals.
I would also like to see others participating, currently the discussion is
becoming to much bilateral IMO.



 Please take a look at a proposal for V3 and my 3) version with elements
 from Rights2 :)
 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights43Proposal
 and in action
 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights43Space


Really nice job ! I really appreciate.


 The prototype is not reflecting the desired interaction: both inherited
 info and rights change appear on hover (right icon and arrow), instead of
 hover | click.


I am not sure what are really your intend. I think that the big tooltips
describing the rights should be the only tooltips, and should be show on
hover only after a small timeout (like the yellow one currently). Clicking
any where on the +/- icon or v would then open the menu.
Is it what you try ?



 That v needs to be an arrow like the one we use in the action menus.

 On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 19:06, Denis Gervalle d...@softec.lu wrote:

  Caty,
 
  Really nice and interesting post, I will try to reach that level... but
  without visual :\
 
  I really think that using the collapsed view for editing would helps
 basic
  users to have a simplified and more easy interface to understand. We may
  even imagine that only advanced user (those marked so in their
 profile),
  has access to the expanded view.
 
  I think that the collapsed view missed an additional icon that summarize
  the
  rights that are not shown. This one would only be shown if there is any
  non-defaulted additional right in action.

 This is a signal that extended
  rights are in use (See it like the grey box of Windows when special
 rights
  are setup, which is inviting to go into advanced view to know more). This
  one would be obviously not editable, and should probably work like the
 ...
  or replace it ? In place of the ... . Concerning the ..., I am not sure,
  but
  I would also prefer to see a textual link advanced in small font, and
  only
  visible when row is hovered.
 
 

 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights43Proposal#HRowhover


Sorry to insist, but the information regarding the advanced rights is still
missing in collapsed mode.
I really would like to have a indicator that some advanced rights has been
set locally or not without having to go advanced mode. Else, you will have
to expand all rows to check that information, which is not practical.




  Order of right are not significant, so I would prefer that in all view,
  these where in the same order, with the basic right first (V/C/E/D/A/P)
 and
  the additional right in their order of registration (hope that it will
 stay
  constant... or we will have to find a way to keep them ordered).
  The right part of each icon should be grayed if the right is inherited
  and
  not grayed if the right is set locally, this improve the information
  provided in V3.



 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights43Proposal#HAfterclick

 The problem with this icons (taken from Silk) is that there is little
 difference for View, Comment, Admin icons between the two states
 (inherited,
 locally set) - but this is something we can easily improve (by changing the
 icons and looking for some more contrast).
 Example: This is how they look when all rights are set locally (full color)

 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights43Proposal/fullColors.png



  I also think that the +/- (which is never grayed) could be
  nearer to the right icon. Maybe you could use a green V and a read stop
  in
  place of +/- ?
 

 The other mockup versions (like
 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights41Space)
 used
 v/x for the allow/deny representation, and yes, I agree that they are more
 suited than +/-.

 The problem is that we are using in XWiki, X to represent delete, so having
 two xX was too much, that's why I introduced +/-. Maybe we can find another
 solution.


I think we need some polishing on the icons used. Building them specifically
would be nice, but I do not know if you or anyone want to have a try at
that. My feeling is that the couple +/- or better v/x and the right icon
should be built together and closer to each other providing the information
as a whole and not giving the impression of two part. Using a v for
suggesting the menu is nice, could be even improved by styling some button
like borders on hover.

All menus could also be improved by using the inheritance arrow married with
+/- (or v/x) to show immediately what will be the right if inheritance is
used.




 
  Regarding the collapsed view, I see three possibilities to investigate
 for
  allowing edition while improving readability 

Re: [xwiki-users] Warning at the start

2010-06-04 Thread Ben Stuggler

Nobody have a clue if these warning are a big problem?

Regards

Ben


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Re: [xwiki-users] Warning at the start

2010-06-04 Thread Caleb James DeLisle
When XWikiPreferences is saved, all of the components are reloaded with new 
settings.
This is the reason for the component override warnings.

Caleb

Ben Stuggler wrote:
 Nobody have a clue if these warning are a big problem?
 
 Regards
 
 Ben
 
 

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Re: [xwiki-users] Warning at the start

2010-06-04 Thread Vincent Massol

On Jun 4, 2010, at 12:10 PM, Caleb James DeLisle wrote:

 When XWikiPreferences is saved, all of the components are reloaded with new 
 settings.

That doesn't look right. IMO there's something else since the annotation loader 
is not supposed to be called for that.

Thanks
-Vincent


 This is the reason for the component override warnings.
 
 Caleb
 
 Ben Stuggler wrote:
 Nobody have a clue if these warning are a big problem?
 
 Regards
 
 Ben

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Re: [xwiki-users] Warning at the start

2010-06-04 Thread Thomas Mortagne
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 12:10, Caleb James DeLisle
calebdeli...@lavabit.com wrote:
 When XWikiPreferences is saved, all of the components are reloaded with new 
 settings.
 This is the reason for the component override warnings.

Actually this is true for plugins only, if it really happen for
components it's a major bug.


 Caleb

 Ben Stuggler wrote:
 Nobody have a clue if these warning are a big problem?

 Regards

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Re: [xwiki-users] log4j doesn't log information about LDAP connection

2010-06-04 Thread Martin Kunze
Hey,

there are some good news and some not so good ones.

After I upgraded xwiki to Version 2.3.1 and reconfigured xwiki.cfg the 
ActiveDirectory-Authentication works. User now can login. But has no rights. 
Now of course, I have to set some groupmapping. I did it like that:
xwiki.authentication.ldap.group_mapping=XWiki.GruppeA=cn=Standort,ou=Standortgruppen,ou=Gruppen,ou=Another
 Group

So now, that doesn't work. There are three things I want to know:
1. do I have to add the dc=domain,dc=suffix string at the end?
2. the last group contains a space - can that be a problem?
3. are there any other things that can be wrong?

By the way, GruppeA exists in the wiki. I created it and granted some rights.

Best Regards :-)
Martin




Von: Thomas Mortagne thomas.morta...@xwiki.com
An: XWiki Users users@xwiki.org
Gesendet: Mittwoch, den 2. Juni 2010, 16:52:41 Uhr
Betreff: Re: [xwiki-users] log4j doesn't log information about LDAP connection

On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 13:26, Martin Kunze kunze.mar...@yahoo.de wrote:
 Hello Thomas,

 this morning I had the possibility to restart the whole server on which xwiki 
 and tomcat are running.
 You won't beleave me but now there is some Logging and the Starting LDAP 
 authentication string in the xwiki.log. crazy.

 But authentication fails. (Invalid credentials). xwiki.log sais the 
 following:
 The provided User is null. We don't try to authenticate, it probably means 
 the user is in non logged mode.

This log is because when you access XWiki the authenticator is called
with no user for SSO based authenticators.

You should have another Starting LDAP authentication with different
logs after this one, just look at the time when you try to
authenticate and takes the logs from this time and send them here so
that i can look at them.


 Any idea what that means here and what to do???

 Thanks for your help!!!

 --
 Martin

Try setting trace level instead of debug and see if you have
Starting LDAP authentication to really make sure you don't have log
because of some very magical authenticator bug, that way we will at
least know we have to focus in logging.


 xwiki.authentication.ldap=1
 xwiki.authentication.ldap.server=IP-Adress
 xwiki.authentication.ldap.port=389
 xwiki.authentication.ldap.base_DN=dc=domain,dc=suffix
 xwiki.authentication.ldap.bind_DN=domain\{0}
 xwiki.authentication.ldap.bind_pass={1}
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Re: [xwiki-users] log4j doesn't log information about LDAP connection

2010-06-04 Thread Thomas Mortagne
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 13:09, Martin Kunze kunze.mar...@yahoo.de wrote:
 Hey,

 there are some good news and some not so good ones.

 After I upgraded xwiki to Version 2.3.1 and reconfigured xwiki.cfg the 
 ActiveDirectory-Authentication works. User now can login. But has no rights.
 Now of course, I have to set some groupmapping. I did it like that:
 xwiki.authentication.ldap.group_mapping=XWiki.GruppeA=cn=Standort,ou=Standortgruppen,ou=Gruppen,ou=Another
  Group

 So now, that doesn't work. There are three things I want to know:
 1. do I have to add the dc=domain,dc=suffix string at the end?

The LDAP side has to be the full DN, so yes.

 2. the last group contains a space - can that be a problem?

No, the DN can contains anything.

 3. are there any other things that can be wrong?

No, it looks ok.

Did you checked if the user is added to the group ? If not then you
should look at the debug log.


 By the way, GruppeA exists in the wiki. I created it and granted some 
 rights.

 Best Regards :-)
 Martin



 
 Von: Thomas Mortagne thomas.morta...@xwiki.com
 An: XWiki Users users@xwiki.org
 Gesendet: Mittwoch, den 2. Juni 2010, 16:52:41 Uhr
 Betreff: Re: [xwiki-users] log4j doesn't log information about LDAP connection

 On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 13:26, Martin Kunze kunze.mar...@yahoo.de wrote:
 Hello Thomas,

 this morning I had the possibility to restart the whole server on 
 which xwiki and tomcat are running.
 You won't beleave me but now there is some Logging and the Starting LDAP 
 authentication string in the xwiki.log. crazy.

 But authentication fails. (Invalid credentials). xwiki.log sais the 
 following:
 The provided User is null. We don't try to authenticate, it probably means 
 the user is in non logged mode.

 This log is because when you access XWiki the authenticator is called
 with no user for SSO based authenticators.

 You should have another Starting LDAP authentication with different
 logs after this one, just look at the time when you try to
 authenticate and takes the logs from this time and send them here so
 that i can look at them.


 Any idea what that means here and what to do???

 Thanks for your help!!!

 --
 Martin

Try setting trace level instead of debug and see if you have
Starting LDAP authentication to really make sure you don't have log
because of some very magical authenticator bug, that way we will at
least know we have to focus in logging.


 xwiki.authentication.ldap=1
 xwiki.authentication.ldap.server=IP-Adress
 xwiki.authentication.ldap.port=389
 xwiki.authentication.ldap.base_DN=dc=domain,dc=suffix
 xwiki.authentication.ldap.bind_DN=domain\{0}
 xwiki.authentication.ldap.bind_pass={1}
 xwiki.authentication.ldap.UID_attr=sAMAccountName


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Re: [xwiki-users] Formula Macro - native renderer issue

2010-06-04 Thread Marine Julian

Hi !

I'm sorry for digging up my topic again and again but I really don't know
what to do to solve my issue. Isn't there someone who can reproduce this
error ?
Or it is that there is no one who's able to tell me if the Formula Macro
always supports the native renderer ?

Thank you again for helping me.

Marine

Marine Julian wrote:
 
 Hello everybody,
 
 Does the Formula Macro always support the native renderer ?
 Indeed, I tried to use it with an other configuration (the third one !!!)
 : Debian, TexLive, ImageMagick, XEM 2.3. But I had again the same error...
 Here it is :
 ERROR formula.FormulaMacro - Invalid renderer: [native]. Falling back to
 the safe renderer.
 org.xwiki.component.manager.ComponentLookupException: Failed to render
 formula using [native] renderer
  at
 org.xwiki.rendering.internal.macro.formula.FormulaMacro.render(FormulaMacro.java:162)
  ... etc 
 
 Besides, is there a way to redefine the safe renderer ? I would like it
 to be googlecharts method. The snuggletex method is too limited...
 

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Re: [xwiki-users] Warning at the start

2010-06-04 Thread Ben Stuggler

Ok, thank you all. 

I think I ll try to install again all to check if it's a problem with
plugins. 
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Re: [xwiki-users] log4j doesn't log information about LDAP connection

2010-06-04 Thread Martin Kunze
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 14:21, Thomas Mortagne wrote:

On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 13:09, Martin Kunze kunze.mar...@yahoo.de wrote:
 Hey,

 there are some good news and some not so good ones.

 After I upgraded xwiki to Version 2.3.1 and reconfigured xwiki.cfg the 
 ActiveDirectory-Authentication works. User now can login. But has no rights.
 Now of course, I have to set some groupmapping. I did it like that:
 xwiki.authentication.ldap.group_mapping=XWiki.GruppeA=cn=Standort,ou=Standortgruppen,ou=Gruppen,ou=Another
  Group

 So now, that doesn't work. There are three things I want to know:
 1. do I have to add the dc=domain,dc=suffix string at the end?

The LDAP side has to be the full DN, so yes.

Hey yeah! That's it! Now it works! Great job. Thanks a lot!!!

Now to go on in topic I have two more general questions. Maybe you could answer.
According to my colleague it would be useful if the user will be logged-in into 
xwiki automaticly by using the windows-logon-credential. Is this possible?

And second: It would be extreamly helpful for our admins when there will be a 
possibility to manually map LDAP groups to xwiki groups by an graphical UI in 
the browser.
e.g. xwiki lists all (sub)groups of an AD and the admin can map them to 
existing xwiki groups by clicking. (a bit like the assignment of a user to a 
group in xwiki.)
- Is there any activity planed to implement sth. like that?

Regards
Martin.

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Re: [xwiki-users] log4j doesn't log information about LDAP connection

2010-06-04 Thread Thomas Mortagne
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 16:30, Martin Kunze kunze.mar...@yahoo.de wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 14:21, Thomas Mortagne wrote:

On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 13:09, Martin Kunze kunze.mar...@yahoo.de wrote:
 Hey,

 there are some good news and some not so good ones.

 After I upgraded xwiki to Version 2.3.1 and reconfigured xwiki.cfg the 
 ActiveDirectory-Authentication works. User now can login. But has no rights.
 Now of course, I have to set some groupmapping. I did it like that:
 xwiki.authentication.ldap.group_mapping=XWiki.GruppeA=cn=Standort,ou=Standortgruppen,ou=Gruppen,ou=Another
  Group

 So now, that doesn't work. There are three things I want to know:
 1. do I have to add the dc=domain,dc=suffix string at the end?

The LDAP side has to be the full DN, so yes.

 Hey yeah! That's it! Now it works! Great job. Thanks a lot!!!

 Now to go on in topic I have two more general questions. Maybe you could 
 answer.
 According to my colleague it would be useful if the user will be logged-in 
 into xwiki automaticly by using the windows-logon-credential. Is this 
 possible?

Yep it's possible. That would be NTLM authenticator, you can find one
on http://svn.xwiki.org/svnroot/xwiki/contrib/sandbox/xwiki-authentication-ntlm/
(it's the source, you will have to build it using maven, see
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/Building) which is
working pretty well. The authenticator is documented in the README.txt
file.


 And second: It would be extreamly helpful for our admins when there will be a 
 possibility to manually map LDAP groups to xwiki groups by an graphical UI in 
 the browser.
 e.g. xwiki lists all (sub)groups of an AD and the admin can map them to 
 existing xwiki groups by clicking. (a bit like the assignment of a user to a 
 group in xwiki.)
 - Is there any activity planed to implement sth. like that?

No one is assigned on it right now or even planned in a near future
sorry. But contributions are welcomed ;)


 Regards
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[xwiki-users] [Proposal] Rights Management UI

2010-06-04 Thread Ecaterina Valica
Hi,

Take a look at Rights 5
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights5Space

Added:
* information regarding the advanced rights (inherits, overrides)
* icons built together as a whole
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/icons.png
* representation of advanced rights with the same abstract icon, but with
different color (no text; we can debate this)
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/color.png
* inheritance arrow married with +/-

IMGs (in case of browser problem)
- collapsed:
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/rights5Space.png
- expanded:
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/rights5SpaceExpanded.png

On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:42, Denis Gervalle d...@softec.lu wrote:

 Hi Caty,

 On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 18:09, Ecaterina Valica vali...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi Denis,
 
  I want to thank you again for all the help you are giving :P
 

 This is pleasure to participate especially because you provide really good
 proposals.
 I would also like to see others participating, currently the discussion is
 becoming to much bilateral IMO.


 
  Please take a look at a proposal for V3 and my 3) version with elements
  from Rights2 :)
 
 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights43Proposal
  and in action
  http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights43Space


 Really nice job ! I really appreciate.


  The prototype is not reflecting the desired interaction: both inherited
  info and rights change appear on hover (right icon and arrow), instead of
  hover | click.
 

 I am not sure what are really your intend. I think that the big tooltips
 describing the rights should be the only tooltips, and should be show on
 hover only after a small timeout (like the yellow one currently). Clicking
 any where on the +/- icon or v would then open the menu.
 Is it what you try ?


yes, on hover show the tooltip, on click show the menu.



 
  That v needs to be an arrow like the one we use in the action menus.
 
  On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 19:06, Denis Gervalle d...@softec.lu wrote:
 
   Caty,
  
   Really nice and interesting post, I will try to reach that level... but
   without visual :\
  
   I really think that using the collapsed view for editing would helps
  basic
   users to have a simplified and more easy interface to understand. We
 may
   even imagine that only advanced user (those marked so in their
  profile),
   has access to the expanded view.
  
   I think that the collapsed view missed an additional icon that
 summarize
   the
   rights that are not shown. This one would only be shown if there is any
   non-defaulted additional right in action.
 
  This is a signal that extended
   rights are in use (See it like the grey box of Windows when special
  rights
   are setup, which is inviting to go into advanced view to know more).
 This
   one would be obviously not editable, and should probably work like the
  ...
   or replace it ? In place of the ... . Concerning the ..., I am not
 sure,
   but
   I would also prefer to see a textual link advanced in small font, and
   only
   visible when row is hovered.
  
  
 
 
 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights43Proposal#HRowhover


 Sorry to insist, but the information regarding the advanced rights is still
 missing in collapsed mode.
 I really would like to have a indicator that some advanced rights has been
 set locally or not without having to go advanced mode. Else, you will have
 to expand all rows to check that information, which is not practical.


 
 
   Order of right are not significant, so I would prefer that in all view,
   these where in the same order, with the basic right first (V/C/E/D/A/P)
  and
   the additional right in their order of registration (hope that it will
  stay
   constant... or we will have to find a way to keep them ordered).
   The right part of each icon should be grayed if the right is
 inherited
   and
   not grayed if the right is set locally, this improve the information
   provided in V3.
 
 
 
 
 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights43Proposal#HAfterclick
 
  The problem with this icons (taken from Silk) is that there is little
  difference for View, Comment, Admin icons between the two states
  (inherited,
  locally set) - but this is something we can easily improve (by changing
 the
  icons and looking for some more contrast).
  Example: This is how they look when all rights are set locally (full
 color)
 
 
 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights43Proposal/fullColors.png
 
 
 
   I also think that the +/- (which is never grayed) could be
   nearer to the right icon. Maybe you could use a green V and a read
 stop
   in
   place of +/- ?
  
 
  The other mockup versions (like
  

[xwiki-users] Importing a blog from Blogger

2010-06-04 Thread timothygordon32

Is there an easy way to systematically copy the date, content (and maybe
comments) of my posts on Blogger into a blog I've created in XWiki? 

I've read some articles which suggest reading each blog entry as HTML,
converting that to XWiki markup and then using a XML-RPC to post them
programmatically to XWiki. 

I thought about creating XAR files to import but this seems even more
difficult. 

Any suggestions?
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Re: [xwiki-users] [Proposal] Rights Management UI

2010-06-04 Thread Alex Busenius
Hi Caty,


This version is really cool, just some minor comments:

When I mouse over some right icon (FF 3.6), the dropdown menu with
allow/deny/etc. is shown, but this menu is very hard to see, because it
has almost the same color as the background and the icons are right
above the right icons from the line below.

The popup with the hint what right it is and why it is inherited is
really helpful, but to open it I need to hit the small triangle near to
the icon, otherwise only the dropdown menu is shown (but maybe its just
because it is not the final version). This might be quite hard for some
people.

I'd made the icons larger (at least 24x24) and add more contrast (right
now inherited rights look like disabled GUI controls to me), especially
to the dropdown menu, view right icon and inherited right arrow from the
menu.


Alex


On 06/04/2010 06:54 PM, Ecaterina Valica wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Take a look at Rights 5
 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights5Space
 
 Added:
 * information regarding the advanced rights (inherits, overrides)
 * icons built together as a whole
 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/icons.png
 * representation of advanced rights with the same abstract icon, but with
 different color (no text; we can debate this)
 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/color.png
 * inheritance arrow married with +/-
 
 IMGs (in case of browser problem)
 - collapsed:
 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/rights5Space.png
 - expanded:
 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/rights5SpaceExpanded.png
 
 On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:42, Denis Gervalle d...@softec.lu wrote:
 
 Hi Caty,

 On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 18:09, Ecaterina Valica vali...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Denis,

 I want to thank you again for all the help you are giving :P


 This is pleasure to participate especially because you provide really good
 proposals.
 I would also like to see others participating, currently the discussion is
 becoming to much bilateral IMO.



 Please take a look at a proposal for V3 and my 3) version with elements
 from Rights2 :)

 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights43Proposal
 and in action
 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights43Space


 Really nice job ! I really appreciate.


 The prototype is not reflecting the desired interaction: both inherited
 info and rights change appear on hover (right icon and arrow), instead of
 hover | click.


 I am not sure what are really your intend. I think that the big tooltips
 describing the rights should be the only tooltips, and should be show on
 hover only after a small timeout (like the yellow one currently). Clicking
 any where on the +/- icon or v would then open the menu.
 Is it what you try ?


 yes, on hover show the tooltip, on click show the menu.
 
 
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Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Rights Management UI

2010-06-04 Thread Ecaterina Valica
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 20:57, Alex Busenius alex.busen...@xwiki.com wrote:

 Hi Caty,


 This version is really cool, just some minor comments:

 When I mouse over some right icon (FF 3.6), the dropdown menu with
 allow/deny/etc. is shown, but this menu is very hard to see, because it
 has almost the same color as the background and the icons are right
 above the right icons from the line below.

 The popup with the hint what right it is and why it is inherited is
 really helpful, but to open it I need to hit the small triangle near to
 the icon, otherwise only the dropdown menu is shown (but maybe its just
 because it is not the final version). This might be quite hard for some
 people.


Hi Alex,

yes I know - I reused existing classes from XWiki, didn't made anything
custom, that's why is acting like this.

The desired interaction will be on hover (icon or arrow) show the
inheritance tooltip, on click show the menu.



 I'd made the icons larger (at least 24x24) and add more contrast (right
 now inherited rights look like disabled GUI controls to me), especially
 to the dropdown menu, view right icon and inherited right arrow from the
 menu.


The main disadvantage of this proposal is it's contrast: ColorThemes
variables (highlightColor, secondaryBackgroundColor) and icons.

I choose the icons form Silk set, because they are used everywhere in XWiki.
The rationale was the consistency and lookfeel. That's why they all are
16x16.

If we choose this version as the final one, but we are not pleased with
these icons, we need to find another set (maybe as you suggested with 24x24
size) or create it from scratch (then we need to think about the icon
representation).

The new set should have high contrast between inherited/overridden state.

Thanks Alex :)
Caty


 Alex


 On 06/04/2010 06:54 PM, Ecaterina Valica wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Take a look at Rights 5
  http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights5Space
 
  Added:
  * information regarding the advanced rights (inherits, overrides)
  * icons built together as a whole
 
 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/icons.png
  * representation of advanced rights with the same abstract icon, but
 with
  different color (no text; we can debate this)
 
 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/color.png
  * inheritance arrow married with +/-
 
  IMGs (in case of browser problem)
  - collapsed:
 
 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/rights5Space.png
  - expanded:
 
 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/rights5SpaceExpanded.png
 
  On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:42, Denis Gervalle d...@softec.lu wrote:
 
  Hi Caty,
 
  On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 18:09, Ecaterina Valica vali...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Hi Denis,
 
  I want to thank you again for all the help you are giving :P
 
 
  This is pleasure to participate especially because you provide really
 good
  proposals.
  I would also like to see others participating, currently the discussion
 is
  becoming to much bilateral IMO.
 
 
 
  Please take a look at a proposal for V3 and my 3) version with
 elements
  from Rights2 :)
 
 
 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights43Proposal
  and in action
  http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights43Space
 
 
  Really nice job ! I really appreciate.
 
 
  The prototype is not reflecting the desired interaction: both
 inherited
  info and rights change appear on hover (right icon and arrow), instead
 of
  hover | click.
 
 
  I am not sure what are really your intend. I think that the big tooltips
  describing the rights should be the only tooltips, and should be show on
  hover only after a small timeout (like the yellow one currently).
 Clicking
  any where on the +/- icon or v would then open the menu.
  Is it what you try ?
 
 
  yes, on hover show the tooltip, on click show the menu.
 
 
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Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Rights Management UI

2010-06-04 Thread Raluca Stavro
Hello all,

I really like the last proposal, Caty :)

On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 8:57 PM, Alex Busenius alex.busen...@xwiki.com wrote:
 Hi Caty,


 This version is really cool, just some minor comments:

 When I mouse over some right icon (FF 3.6), the dropdown menu with
 allow/deny/etc. is shown, but this menu is very hard to see, because it
 has almost the same color as the background and the icons are right
 above the right icons from the line below.

 The popup with the hint what right it is and why it is inherited is
 really helpful, but to open it I need to hit the small triangle near to
 the icon, otherwise only the dropdown menu is shown (but maybe its just
 because it is not the final version). This might be quite hard for some
 people.

 I'd made the icons larger (at least 24x24) and add more contrast (right
 now inherited rights look like disabled GUI controls to me), especially
 to the dropdown menu, view right icon and inherited right arrow from the
 menu.

I think that the tooltip can be added on mouse click. This would imply
adding a nice question mark instead of that small arrow, and the user
would click anywhere on the span with the class name summary. And
another improvement would be to add more padding to the drop down
menus. Caty is currently using the secondary background color, right?
Maybe we should use the highlight color, but I'm not sure of that.

Raluca.



 Alex


 On 06/04/2010 06:54 PM, Ecaterina Valica wrote:
 Hi,

 Take a look at Rights 5
 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights5Space

 Added:
 * information regarding the advanced rights (inherits, overrides)
 * icons built together as a whole
 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/icons.png
 * representation of advanced rights with the same abstract icon, but with
 different color (no text; we can debate this)
 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/color.png
 * inheritance arrow married with +/-

 IMGs (in case of browser problem)
 - collapsed:
 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/rights5Space.png
 - expanded:
 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/rights5SpaceExpanded.png

 On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:42, Denis Gervalle d...@softec.lu wrote:

 Hi Caty,

 On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 18:09, Ecaterina Valica vali...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Denis,

 I want to thank you again for all the help you are giving :P


 This is pleasure to participate especially because you provide really good
 proposals.
 I would also like to see others participating, currently the discussion is
 becoming to much bilateral IMO.



 Please take a look at a proposal for V3 and my 3) version with elements
 from Rights2 :)

 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights43Proposal
 and in action
 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights43Space


 Really nice job ! I really appreciate.


 The prototype is not reflecting the desired interaction: both inherited
 info and rights change appear on hover (right icon and arrow), instead of
 hover | click.


 I am not sure what are really your intend. I think that the big tooltips
 describing the rights should be the only tooltips, and should be show on
 hover only after a small timeout (like the yellow one currently). Clicking
 any where on the +/- icon or v would then open the menu.
 Is it what you try ?


 yes, on hover show the tooltip, on click show the menu.


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Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Rights Management UI

2010-06-04 Thread Raluca Stavro
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Ecaterina Valica vali...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 20:57, Alex Busenius alex.busen...@xwiki.com wrote:

 Hi Caty,


 This version is really cool, just some minor comments:

 When I mouse over some right icon (FF 3.6), the dropdown menu with
 allow/deny/etc. is shown, but this menu is very hard to see, because it
 has almost the same color as the background and the icons are right
 above the right icons from the line below.

 The popup with the hint what right it is and why it is inherited is
 really helpful, but to open it I need to hit the small triangle near to
 the icon, otherwise only the dropdown menu is shown (but maybe its just
 because it is not the final version). This might be quite hard for some
 people.


 Hi Alex,

 yes I know - I reused existing classes from XWiki, didn't made anything
 custom, that's why is acting like this.

 The desired interaction will be on hover (icon or arrow) show the
 inheritance tooltip, on click show the menu.

If so, I think that the tooltip will be kind of annoying. But we
should first see it in action, maybe I'll find some time to work on
this.

Raluca.




 I'd made the icons larger (at least 24x24) and add more contrast (right
 now inherited rights look like disabled GUI controls to me), especially
 to the dropdown menu, view right icon and inherited right arrow from the
 menu.


 The main disadvantage of this proposal is it's contrast: ColorThemes
 variables (highlightColor, secondaryBackgroundColor) and icons.

 I choose the icons form Silk set, because they are used everywhere in XWiki.
 The rationale was the consistency and lookfeel. That's why they all are
 16x16.

 If we choose this version as the final one, but we are not pleased with
 these icons, we need to find another set (maybe as you suggested with 24x24
 size) or create it from scratch (then we need to think about the icon
 representation).

 The new set should have high contrast between inherited/overridden state.

 Thanks Alex :)
 Caty


 Alex


 On 06/04/2010 06:54 PM, Ecaterina Valica wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Take a look at Rights 5
  http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights5Space
 
  Added:
  * information regarding the advanced rights (inherits, overrides)
  * icons built together as a whole
 
 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/icons.png
  * representation of advanced rights with the same abstract icon, but
 with
  different color (no text; we can debate this)
 
 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/color.png
  * inheritance arrow married with +/-
 
  IMGs (in case of browser problem)
  - collapsed:
 
 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/rights5Space.png
  - expanded:
 
 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/rights5SpaceExpanded.png
 
  On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:42, Denis Gervalle d...@softec.lu wrote:
 
  Hi Caty,
 
  On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 18:09, Ecaterina Valica vali...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Hi Denis,
 
  I want to thank you again for all the help you are giving :P
 
 
  This is pleasure to participate especially because you provide really
 good
  proposals.
  I would also like to see others participating, currently the discussion
 is
  becoming to much bilateral IMO.
 
 
 
  Please take a look at a proposal for V3 and my 3) version with
 elements
  from Rights2 :)
 
 
 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights43Proposal
  and in action
  http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights43Space
 
 
  Really nice job ! I really appreciate.
 
 
  The prototype is not reflecting the desired interaction: both
 inherited
  info and rights change appear on hover (right icon and arrow), instead
 of
  hover | click.
 
 
  I am not sure what are really your intend. I think that the big tooltips
  describing the rights should be the only tooltips, and should be show on
  hover only after a small timeout (like the yellow one currently).
 Clicking
  any where on the +/- icon or v would then open the menu.
  Is it what you try ?
 
 
  yes, on hover show the tooltip, on click show the menu.
 
 
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Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Rights Management UI

2010-06-04 Thread Alex Busenius
Hi Caty,

On 06/04/2010 08:23 PM, Ecaterina Valica wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 20:57, Alex Busenius alex.busen...@xwiki.com wrote:
 
 Hi Caty,


 This version is really cool, just some minor comments:

 When I mouse over some right icon (FF 3.6), the dropdown menu with
 allow/deny/etc. is shown, but this menu is very hard to see, because it
 has almost the same color as the background and the icons are right
 above the right icons from the line below.

 The popup with the hint what right it is and why it is inherited is
 really helpful, but to open it I need to hit the small triangle near to
 the icon, otherwise only the dropdown menu is shown (but maybe its just
 because it is not the final version). This might be quite hard for some
 people.

 
 Hi Alex,
 
 yes I know - I reused existing classes from XWiki, didn't made anything
 custom, that's why is acting like this.
 
 The desired interaction will be on hover (icon or arrow) show the
 inheritance tooltip, on click show the menu.
 
Ok, that will be indeed much better.

 

 I'd made the icons larger (at least 24x24) and add more contrast (right
 now inherited rights look like disabled GUI controls to me), especially
 to the dropdown menu, view right icon and inherited right arrow from the
 menu.


 The main disadvantage of this proposal is it's contrast: ColorThemes
 variables (highlightColor, secondaryBackgroundColor) and icons.
 
 I choose the icons form Silk set, because they are used everywhere in XWiki.
 The rationale was the consistency and lookfeel. That's why they all are
 16x16.
 
 If we choose this version as the final one, but we are not pleased with
 these icons, we need to find another set (maybe as you suggested with 24x24
 size) or create it from scratch (then we need to think about the icon
 representation).
 
 The new set should have high contrast between inherited/overridden state.
 
I see, this complicates things, but I would really prefer larger icons,
lets see what others say...

How about adding a dark border to the dropdown menu or changing its
color to the same one used for Export menu etc.? If the icons are not
transparent (in the middle), this would also improve the contrast a lot.


Alex

 Thanks Alex :)
 Caty
 
 
 Alex


 On 06/04/2010 06:54 PM, Ecaterina Valica wrote:
 Hi,

 Take a look at Rights 5
 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights5Space

 Added:
 * information regarding the advanced rights (inherits, overrides)
 * icons built together as a whole

 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/icons.png
 * representation of advanced rights with the same abstract icon, but
 with
 different color (no text; we can debate this)

 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/color.png
 * inheritance arrow married with +/-

 IMGs (in case of browser problem)
 - collapsed:

 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/rights5Space.png
 - expanded:

 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/rights5SpaceExpanded.png

 On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:42, Denis Gervalle d...@softec.lu wrote:

 Hi Caty,

 On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 18:09, Ecaterina Valica vali...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi Denis,

 I want to thank you again for all the help you are giving :P


 This is pleasure to participate especially because you provide really
 good
 proposals.
 I would also like to see others participating, currently the discussion
 is
 becoming to much bilateral IMO.



 Please take a look at a proposal for V3 and my 3) version with
 elements
 from Rights2 :)


 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights43Proposal
 and in action
 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights43Space


 Really nice job ! I really appreciate.


 The prototype is not reflecting the desired interaction: both
 inherited
 info and rights change appear on hover (right icon and arrow), instead
 of
 hover | click.


 I am not sure what are really your intend. I think that the big tooltips
 describing the rights should be the only tooltips, and should be show on
 hover only after a small timeout (like the yellow one currently).
 Clicking
 any where on the +/- icon or v would then open the menu.
 Is it what you try ?


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[xwiki-users] [myxwiki] new wiki request

2010-06-04 Thread Philip Brunetti
hey guys,

I'm an individual interested in developing an open-source solution for 
a referenced, collaborative textbook. I think that the Xwiki platform is
extremely exciting, and would be ideal for my needs. I would love to use
your community farm to develop and prototype. If you could host me on your
server, that would be excellent. Hopefully, when my skills have developed 
more, I could contribute to some of the community project.

Best,

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Re: [xwiki-users] Importing a blog from Blogger

2010-06-04 Thread Caleb James DeLisle
I would write a groovy script to pull the files in. You can run the script
on an XWiki installation on your desktop computer. Maybe use use java's
File to get the directory containing all of the pages and then file.listFiles
to get the files inside of the directory. Use standard java fileIO code to
read the content.

The loop will look something like:
newDoc = xwiki.getDocument(documentName);
newDoc.setContent(contentRenderedToXWiki2Format);
newDoc.save()

I know there is an XHTML parser and an XWiki2 renderer, you'll have to 
experiment
with getting them working (I haven't used them).
The javadoc:
http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/DevGuide/API/xwiki-core-rendering-api-2.3.1-javadoc.jar/index.html

Once you have them on a local machine you can export as an xar and then move 
them
to the server (if you don't have programming access on the server.)

Great to see you're upgrading to better blogging software ;)

Caleb


timothygordon32 wrote:
 Is there an easy way to systematically copy the date, content (and maybe
 comments) of my posts on Blogger into a blog I've created in XWiki? 
 
 I've read some articles which suggest reading each blog entry as HTML,
 converting that to XWiki markup and then using a XML-RPC to post them
 programmatically to XWiki. 
 
 I thought about creating XAR files to import but this seems even more
 difficult. 
 
 Any suggestions?

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Re: [xwiki-users] [myxwiki] new wiki request

2010-06-04 Thread Sergiu Dumitriu
On 06/04/2010 09:23 PM, Philip Brunetti wrote:
 hey guys,

 I'm an individual interested in developing an open-source solution for
 a referenced, collaborative textbook. I think that the Xwiki platform is
 extremely exciting, and would be ideal for my needs. I would love to use
 your community farm to develop and prototype. If you could host me on your
 server, that would be excellent. Hopefully, when my skills have developed
 more, I could contribute to some of the community project.

Sure, but we need some information:

You’ll also need to register on myxwiki.org and give your user name in 
the mail, as well as the server name you want for your wiki (the name 
that will be used before .myxwiki.org to access the wiki).

-- 
Sergiu Dumitriu
http://purl.org/net/sergiu/
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Re: [xwiki-users] [Proposal] Rights Management UI

2010-06-04 Thread Denis Gervalle
Hi Caty,

I am glad to see that others are looking at what we do, and it is good time
for them to comment now, since I will not have many more comments now :) I
have replied to some of your comment below...

On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 18:54, Ecaterina Valica vali...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Take a look at Rights 5
 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights5Space

 Added:
 * information regarding the advanced rights (inherits, overrides)
 * icons built together as a whole

 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/icons.png
 * representation of advanced rights with the same abstract icon, but with
 different color (no text; we can debate this)

 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/color.png
 * inheritance arrow married with +/-

 IMGs (in case of browser problem)
 - collapsed:

 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/rights5Space.png
 - expanded:

 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/rights5SpaceExpanded.png

 On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:42, Denis Gervalle d...@softec.lu wrote:

  Hi Caty,
 
  On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 18:09, Ecaterina Valica vali...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
   Hi Denis,
  
   I want to thank you again for all the help you are giving :P
  
 
  This is pleasure to participate especially because you provide really
 good
  proposals.
  I would also like to see others participating, currently the discussion
 is
  becoming to much bilateral IMO.
 
 
  
   Please take a look at a proposal for V3 and my 3) version with
 elements
   from Rights2 :)
  
 
 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights43Proposal
   and in action
   http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights43Space
 
 
  Really nice job ! I really appreciate.
 
 
   The prototype is not reflecting the desired interaction: both
 inherited
   info and rights change appear on hover (right icon and arrow), instead
 of
   hover | click.
  
 
  I am not sure what are really your intend. I think that the big tooltips
  describing the rights should be the only tooltips, and should be show on
  hover only after a small timeout (like the yellow one currently).
 Clicking
  any where on the +/- icon or v would then open the menu.
  Is it what you try ?
 
 
 yes, on hover show the tooltip, on click show the menu.


This is perfect, but you should include a little timeout for the tooltips,
or it will be too much invasive.
From the reaction of Alex and Raluca, I really hope you will be able to
implement the correct interaction in your samples, since this seems to cause
a lot of confusion. If you can't, let me know, I will try to find some time
to have a look at it.




 
  
   That v needs to be an arrow like the one we use in the action menus.
  
   On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 19:06, Denis Gervalle d...@softec.lu wrote:
  
Caty,
   
Really nice and interesting post, I will try to reach that level...
 but
without visual :\
   
I really think that using the collapsed view for editing would helps
   basic
users to have a simplified and more easy interface to understand. We
  may
even imagine that only advanced user (those marked so in their
   profile),
has access to the expanded view.
   
I think that the collapsed view missed an additional icon that
  summarize
the
rights that are not shown. This one would only be shown if there is
 any
non-defaulted additional right in action.
  
   This is a signal that extended
rights are in use (See it like the grey box of Windows when special
   rights
are setup, which is inviting to go into advanced view to know more).
  This
one would be obviously not editable, and should probably work like
 the
   ...
or replace it ? In place of the ... . Concerning the ..., I am not
  sure,
but
I would also prefer to see a textual link advanced in small font,
 and
only
visible when row is hovered.
   
   
  
  
 
 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights43Proposal#HRowhover
 
 
  Sorry to insist, but the information regarding the advanced rights is
 still
  missing in collapsed mode.
  I really would like to have a indicator that some advanced rights has
 been
  set locally or not without having to go advanced mode. Else, you will
 have
  to expand all rows to check that information, which is not practical.
 
 
  
  
Order of right are not significant, so I would prefer that in all
 view,
these where in the same order, with the basic right first
 (V/C/E/D/A/P)
   and
the additional right in their order of registration (hope that it
 will
   stay
constant... or we will have to find a way to keep them ordered).
The right part of each icon should be grayed if the right is
  inherited
and
not grayed if the right is set locally, this improve the information
provided in V3.
  
  
  
  
 
 

Re: [xwiki-users] [myxwiki] new wiki request

2010-06-04 Thread Philip Brunetti
Woops! Not exactly confidence-inspiring...I know. Let's try again.

User name: Philip_Brunetti

Server Name: noddle.myxwiki.org

Thanks again. Sorry to waste your time.

Philip Brunetti
pbrun...@gmail.com
 hey guys,

 I'm an individual interested in developing an open-source solution for
 a referenced, collaborative textbook. I think that the Xwiki platform is
 extremely exciting, and would be ideal for my needs. I would love to use
 your community farm to develop and prototype. If you could host me on your
 server, that would be excellent. Hopefully, when my skills have developed
 more, I could contribute to some of the community project.
 

 Sure, but we need some information:

 You’ll also need to register on myxwiki.org and give your user name in 
 the mail, as well as the server name you want for your wiki (the name 
 that will be used before .myxwiki.org to access the wiki).

   

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