Re: [xwiki-users] Xwiki Logo

2015-08-11 Thread Maciej Fokt
I changed logo the same like guided me xWiki's instruction. I have no idea  
where is this option in xWiki properties, because I have been doing this  
long time ago.


Unregistered users have just access to login site and to two xWiki's  
spaces. And in these places I would like to see my own logo as a  
unregistered user :-)



W dniu .08.2015 o 16:07 vinc...@massol.net  pisze:

On 11 Aug 2015 at 16:05:35, Maciej Fokt  
(maciek.f...@taxi123.pl(mailto:maciek.f...@taxi123.pl)) wrote:



Hi,

I think that you didn't fully understand me. I set logo for whole  
xWiki, I mean I changed the old logo (this logo which is set when I  
install fresh xWiki). I think that the logo should be available for  
unregistered users too. Now unregistered users can see just inscription  
like "Wiki Logo".


How can I resolve this problem?


As I said, the only reason unregistered users wouldn’t be able to see  
the logo is because you would have set permissions so that unregistered  
users are not allowed to view some pages (especially the page containing  
the new logo).


How did you change the logo and where did you put the new logo?

Thanks
-Vincent


Greetings,
Maciek

W dniu .08.2015 o 15:19 vinc...@massol.net pisze:

> On 11 Aug 2015 at 15:07:32, Maciej Fokt  
(maciek.f...@taxi123.pl(mailto:maciek.f...@taxi123.pl)) wrote:

> > Hi,
> >
> > I have little problem with xWiki LOGO for unregistered users.
> >
> > Could you tell me, if the unregistered user should have an access  
to home

> > page to see logo, which I set?
>
> Yes it should unless you’ve configured permissions so that  
unauthenticated users can’t view the document holding the logo.

>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
> > Warm wishes to you,
> > Maciek
>




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Re: [xwiki-users] Xwiki Logo

2015-08-11 Thread vinc...@massol.net
On 11 Aug 2015 at 16:05:35, Maciej Fokt 
(maciek.f...@taxi123.pl(mailto:maciek.f...@taxi123.pl)) wrote:

> Hi,
>  
> I think that you didn't fully understand me. I set logo for whole xWiki, I 
> mean I changed the old logo (this logo which is set when I install fresh 
> xWiki). I think that the logo should be available for unregistered users too. 
> Now unregistered users can see just inscription like "Wiki Logo".  
>  
> How can I resolve this problem? 

As I said, the only reason unregistered users wouldn’t be able to see the logo 
is because you would have set permissions so that unregistered users are not 
allowed to view some pages (especially the page containing the new logo).

How did you change the logo and where did you put the new logo?

Thanks
-Vincent

> Greetings,  
> Maciek
>  
> W dniu .08.2015 o 15:19 vinc...@massol.net pisze:
>  
> > On 11 Aug 2015 at 15:07:32, Maciej Fokt 
> > (maciek.f...@taxi123.pl(mailto:maciek.f...@taxi123.pl)) wrote:  
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I have little problem with xWiki LOGO for unregistered users.
> > >
> > > Could you tell me, if the unregistered user should have an access to home
> > > page to see logo, which I set?  
> >  
> > Yes it should unless you’ve configured permissions so that unauthenticated 
> > users can’t view the document holding the logo.  
> >  
> > Thanks  
> > -Vincent
> >  
> > > Warm wishes to you,
> > > Maciek
> >  
>  
>  
>  

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Re: [xwiki-users] Xwiki Logo

2015-08-11 Thread Maciej Fokt

Hi,

I think that you didn't fully understand me. I set logo for whole xWiki, I  
mean I changed the old logo (this logo which is set when I install fresh  
xWiki). I think that the logo should be available for unregistered users  
too. Now unregistered users can see just inscription like "Wiki Logo".


How can I resolve this problem?

Greetings,
Maciek

W dniu .08.2015 o 15:19 vinc...@massol.net  pisze:

On 11 Aug 2015 at 15:07:32, Maciej Fokt  
(maciek.f...@taxi123.pl(mailto:maciek.f...@taxi123.pl)) wrote:



Hi,
I have little problem with xWiki LOGO for unregistered users.
Could you tell me, if the unregistered user should have an access to  
home

page to see logo, which I set?


Yes it should unless you’ve configured permissions so that  
unauthenticated users can’t view the document holding the logo.


Thanks
-Vincent


Warm wishes to you,
Maciek

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Re: [xwiki-users] Xwiki Logo

2015-08-11 Thread vinc...@massol.net
On 11 Aug 2015 at 15:07:32, Maciej Fokt 
(maciek.f...@taxi123.pl(mailto:maciek.f...@taxi123.pl)) wrote:

> Hi,
>  
> I have little problem with xWiki LOGO for unregistered users.
>  
> Could you tell me, if the unregistered user should have an access to home
> page to see logo, which I set?

Yes it should unless you’ve configured permissions so that unauthenticated 
users can’t view the document holding the logo.

Thanks
-Vincent

> Warm wishes to you,
> Maciek

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[xwiki-users] Xwiki Logo

2015-08-11 Thread Maciej Fokt

Hi,

I have little problem with xWiki LOGO for unregistered users.

Could you tell me, if the unregistered user should have an access to home  
page to see logo, which I set?



Warm wishes to you,
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Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2

2010-04-20 Thread Thomas Mortagne
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 21:19, Sergiu Dumitriu  wrote:
> Hello Community,
>
> The search for the XWiki.org logo isn't over yet...
>
> The second round of votes finished, with the following results:
>
> +9 for 4
> +4 for 12 (I counted Thibaut's +1 for 12A as a +1 for 12)
> +1 for 15
> +14 for 16
> +1 for 19
>
> Normally, 16 would be the winner, but since several key members of the
> community objected to it, I see three ways to proceed:
>
> 1. Declare 16 as the elected logo, but further improve it to soften the
> objections
> 2. Start a third round between improved version of 4 and 16
> 3. Slow down a bit, since there's no hard deadline to meet, and start
> all over, accepting new proposals

I don't have anything against 16 and i voted for 4 so I'm ok with 1.
and 2. but i think i would prefer 3. since i have the feeling all this
was rushed too much (really just a feeling i don't have strong
arguments).

>
> I for one would go for option 1, if Vincent, Ludovic, Guillaume, Fabio
> agree.
>
> On 04/08/2010 06:02 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:
>> Hello XWiki Community,
>>
>> We're still looking for the new XWiki.org logo. First of all, many
>> thanks to all those who submitted their ideas (
>> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallenge ). After the
>> first round of votes (digest here:
>> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ah6DqXzfHT2vdHV5Ty1LX3lKU3U5V3M4YmNFSXEzcVE&hl=en),
>>
>> we chose 6 "popular" proposals for the second round:
>> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 .
>>
>> The authors of these proposals were asked to do the following, if not
>> already done for round 1:
>> * try to integrate any constructive feedback that came with the
>> votes (a digest of the feedback from the emails is available for each
>> proposal on
>> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 )
>> * polish the design (if they consider it necessary)
>> * provide the requested variations for .org, enterprise and office
>> * provide samples for light and dark background
>> * provide a black&white version
>> * provide a 16X16 icon containing the logo or a representative part
>> of the logo
>> * provide a nice "Powered by XWiki" button that goes with the logo
>> * provide a mockup/screenshot with the logo used in the current
>> skin, colibri
>>
>> For most of the finalist logos, the _final_ versions were already
>> uploaded here:
>> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 .
>> For those who were not updated, we will use the initial submissions
>> for round 2 as well,
>> and voters will have to use their imagination in case
>> any of the required use cases is missing.
>>
>>
>> VOTING:
>>
>> You can send your vote on the mailing list (d...@xwiki.org or
>> users@xwiki.org), in reply to this email. No twitter votes this time.
>>
>> Each voter can grant a whole +1 to only one of the 6 finalists
>> (
>> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2#HFinalistproposals
>> ).
>>
>> IMPORTANT: Before choosing a logo based on your personal preference,
>> please try to also ask yourself the following questions:
>>
>> * Is it distinctive? Note that it should not resemble other logos,
>> including the XWiki SAS/xwiki.com logo.
>> * Is it easy to remember and recognize?
>> * Does it blend in smoothly with the Colibri skin? With the new
>> XWiki.org skin? Note that adjustments to the skin is possible, in order
>> to better integrate with the logo.
>> * Is the design scalable? Could it (or parts of it) be
>> successfully used in a 16X16 icon? Would it look good on a very large
>> poster?
>> * Can it be used (as it is, or adapted) on both light and dark backgrounds?
>> * What would it look like in black and white (not just grayscale)?
>> It's ok if some details are lost, but it needs to still look
>> attractive and keep the main features.
>>
>>
>> TIMELINE:
>>
>> 08/Apr/10 : Beginning of second round of votes on d...@xwiki.org,
>> users@xwiki.org
>> 11/Apr/10 : End of votes
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>
>
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Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2

2010-04-19 Thread Sergiu Dumitriu
Hello Community,

The search for the XWiki.org logo isn't over yet...

The second round of votes finished, with the following results:

+9 for 4
+4 for 12 (I counted Thibaut's +1 for 12A as a +1 for 12)
+1 for 15
+14 for 16
+1 for 19

Normally, 16 would be the winner, but since several key members of the 
community objected to it, I see three ways to proceed:

1. Declare 16 as the elected logo, but further improve it to soften the 
objections
2. Start a third round between improved version of 4 and 16
3. Slow down a bit, since there's no hard deadline to meet, and start 
all over, accepting new proposals

I for one would go for option 1, if Vincent, Ludovic, Guillaume, Fabio 
agree.

On 04/08/2010 06:02 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:
> Hello XWiki Community,
>
> We're still looking for the new XWiki.org logo. First of all, many
> thanks to all those who submitted their ideas (
> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallenge ). After the
> first round of votes (digest here:
> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ah6DqXzfHT2vdHV5Ty1LX3lKU3U5V3M4YmNFSXEzcVE&hl=en),
>
> we chose 6 "popular" proposals for the second round:
> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 .
>
> The authors of these proposals were asked to do the following, if not
> already done for round 1:
> * try to integrate any constructive feedback that came with the
> votes (a digest of the feedback from the emails is available for each
> proposal on
> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 )
> * polish the design (if they consider it necessary)
> * provide the requested variations for .org, enterprise and office
> * provide samples for light and dark background
> * provide a black&white version
> * provide a 16X16 icon containing the logo or a representative part
> of the logo
> * provide a nice "Powered by XWiki" button that goes with the logo
> * provide a mockup/screenshot with the logo used in the current
> skin, colibri
>
> For most of the finalist logos, the _final_ versions were already
> uploaded here:
> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 .
> For those who were not updated, we will use the initial submissions
> for round 2 as well,
> and voters will have to use their imagination in case
> any of the required use cases is missing.
>
>
> VOTING:
>
> You can send your vote on the mailing list (d...@xwiki.org or
> users@xwiki.org), in reply to this email. No twitter votes this time.
>
> Each voter can grant a whole +1 to only one of the 6 finalists
> (
> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2#HFinalistproposals
> ).
>
> IMPORTANT: Before choosing a logo based on your personal preference,
> please try to also ask yourself the following questions:
>
> * Is it distinctive? Note that it should not resemble other logos,
> including the XWiki SAS/xwiki.com logo.
> * Is it easy to remember and recognize?
> * Does it blend in smoothly with the Colibri skin? With the new
> XWiki.org skin? Note that adjustments to the skin is possible, in order
> to better integrate with the logo.
> * Is the design scalable? Could it (or parts of it) be
> successfully used in a 16X16 icon? Would it look good on a very large
> poster?
> * Can it be used (as it is, or adapted) on both light and dark backgrounds?
> * What would it look like in black and white (not just grayscale)?
> It's ok if some details are lost, but it needs to still look
> attractive and keep the main features.
>
>
> TIMELINE:
>
> 08/Apr/10 : Beginning of second round of votes on d...@xwiki.org,
> users@xwiki.org
> 11/Apr/10 : End of votes
>
>
> Thanks,


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Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2

2010-04-19 Thread Eduard Moraru
On 04/19/2010 01:37 PM, Dan Grigore wrote:
> Marius Dumitru Florea wrote:
>
>> How does it look with different colors (XWiki's green, orange, red,
>> blue) for each bubble?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Marius
>>
>> Dan Grigore wrote:
>>
>>  
>>> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Community/LogoChallengeRound2/xwikiroundedalt.png
>>>
>>> speech bubbles, negative space X
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> It looks pretty good, I tried some versions, but it reminds everybody I
> showed it to of the Windows logo.
To me, seen from afar, it resembles more like Sun's logo: 
http://ceoworld.biz/ceo/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/sun-microsystems_logo.png

At least that was my first impression.
>   I'll have to work more on the shapes
> or find an alternative way of depicting an X in the negative space by
> using more than 4 shapes.
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Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2

2010-04-19 Thread Dan Grigore
Marius Dumitru Florea wrote:
> How does it look with different colors (XWiki's green, orange, red, 
> blue) for each bubble?
>
> Thanks,
> Marius
>
> Dan Grigore wrote:
>   
>> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Community/LogoChallengeRound2/xwikiroundedalt.png
>>
>> speech bubbles, negative space X
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It looks pretty good, I tried some versions, but it reminds everybody I 
showed it to of the Windows logo. I'll have to work more on the shapes 
or find an alternative way of depicting an X in the negative space by 
using more than 4 shapes.
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Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2

2010-04-19 Thread Marius Dumitru Florea
How does it look with different colors (XWiki's green, orange, red, 
blue) for each bubble?

Thanks,
Marius

Dan Grigore wrote:
> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Community/LogoChallengeRound2/xwikiroundedalt.png
> 
> speech bubbles, negative space X
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[xwiki-users] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2

2010-04-18 Thread Dan Grigore
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Community/LogoChallengeRound2/xwikiroundedalt.png

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Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2

2010-04-13 Thread Sergiu Dumitriu
I've been analyzing the proposed logos, gathered feedback, read logo 
design articles, and here's what I think so far.

A logo should be rather abstract than metaphoric. Trying to say too much 
in a logo makes a bad logo. Most famous examples are very simple, and 
say nothing about what the brand does: Adidas, Nike, MasterCard, The 
North Face, FedEx, AT&T, Sun, Oracle... Yet, everybody recognizes the 
Nike logo.

There are three main characteristics of a logo: memorability, 
simplicity, cleverness. There's a tight connection between memorability 
and simplicity. The cleverness can sometimes harm the other two, if 
pushed too far. Having metaphors and product description embedded in a 
logo most of the times thrashes the logo. So, IMO this adds negative 
points to logos 4 and 15.

Another problem with metaphors is that the metaphor might not be the 
perfect one, and even if it is initially, the brand evolves in time, so 
the metaphor would actually harm even more the logo and the brand.


It was interesting to see two opposite opinions expressed about the 
proposed logos: Too unstructured, thus not really suited for XWiki, and 
Too regular/rigid, thus not appealing enough. This is an example of the 
two different types of people, more logical/technical and more 
emotional/artistic people. It's a classic psychological test, showing 
two drawings, one made of lines and one made of curves, and asking which 
one is better. When the left part of the brain is dominant, the straight 
lines are more appealing, and vice-versa. It's impossible to make either 
a straight or a wobbly logo that would satisfy everybody, so this is not 
a valid argument for choosing a logo on its own. Still, this becomes 
relevant when thinking about what is the main intended audience for the 
XWiki logo: technical or non-technical persons?

To answer this, we need to answer another question: where will the logo 
be seen? IMO, mostly on xwiki.org. Actual XE installations will probably 
have a custom logo, one representing the institution using XWiki. What 
will be seen on these custom sites is the Powered By button, so this is 
a good reason to make it visible and recognizable.

So, who comes on xwiki.org? Technical or non-technical persons? I'd say 
mostly technical persons, developers looking for the dev guide, admins 
looking for the admin guide, IT procurement staff looking for a wiki. 
Looking on the (users) mailing list and the FAQs, most users ask 
non-user questions, meaning that I've rarely seen questions like "how to 
insert a table" or "how do I change my password".

Thus, I think that a more rigid, abstract logo is better for xwiki.org 
and its intended audience, adding negative points to 12, 15 and 19. If 
we want XWiki to look like a valid option for using in an enterprise, 
the logo should be technical, straight, structured. And IMO 16 is the 
most structured proposal.


Now, what do I think about each logo:

4 is metaphoric: nice collaboration, writing documents together, 
appealing colors. Unfortunately, this is not the right metaphor. The 
colored pencils hint more at a drawing application than at an 
application development framework. And while the colors are nice, the 
logo doesn't look serious enough for an enterprise application. But I 
think that this would be a good starting point for a logo for the 
WYSIWYG editor, once it's completely independent to deserve its own 
logo, and has realtime capabilities.

12 is a bit familiar, abstract, and curvy enough to be a 2.0 logo. The 
feedback I got is that this is the best "friendly" proposal, but it 
doesn't inspire credibility.

15 is too metaphoric, and the revised version actually lost some of the 
most appreciated features in the first round: happiness, X + W. Now it's 
just an anthropomorphic shape, which is so common in logos, and which 
doesn't help differentiate XWiki from other brands. One person said that 
it looks like a good mascot for a sports event, but not for an 
enterprise application.

16 is indeed the most abstract and individualistic logo. I like the 
straight shape because it has less angles, thus more structure. I don't 
think that it should be readable, so I don't agree that this is an 
eliminatory criterion. All the other logos except 4 have this problem, 
since the shape for X does not always suggest that it's part of the 
name, as in XWiki, so more like "the wiki with an X-shaped logo". Even 
the .com logo has this problem, since it really causes confusion with 
Xwiki (lowercase w, since X is the only one bolder), or X-wiki (since 
the dash between X and W can be read as a real dash). Plus, unlike real 
brands that are seen in stores, our logo will mostly be seen on the web, 
right under the URL. It's not like people see it somewhere on the street 
and wonder what it means, without any means of finding out. If it's in a 
web page, it has a link nearby, and links still use real letters.

19 has only one strong point: the font used for WIKI. The s

Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2

2010-04-12 Thread Valdis Vītoliņš
Agree that small icon for
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Community/LogoChallengeRound2/final1.png
looks good, but for bigger sizes it looks for me as squirrel with
flightskin :-)

Therefore I choose 16 with straight W as it seems more ordered.
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Community/LogoChallengeRound2/16-default-straight.png

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Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2

2010-04-12 Thread Sergiu Dumitriu
On 04/08/2010 06:02 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:
> Hello XWiki Community,
>
> We're still looking for the new XWiki.org logo. First of all, many
> thanks to all those who submitted their ideas (
> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallenge ). After the
> first round of votes (digest here:
> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ah6DqXzfHT2vdHV5Ty1LX3lKU3U5V3M4YmNFSXEzcVE&hl=en),
>
> we chose 6 "popular" proposals for the second round:
> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 .
>
> The authors of these proposals were asked to do the following, if not
> already done for round 1:
> * try to integrate any constructive feedback that came with the
> votes (a digest of the feedback from the emails is available for each
> proposal on
> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 )
> * polish the design (if they consider it necessary)
> * provide the requested variations for .org, enterprise and office
> * provide samples for light and dark background
> * provide a black&white version
> * provide a 16X16 icon containing the logo or a representative part
> of the logo
> * provide a nice "Powered by XWiki" button that goes with the logo
> * provide a mockup/screenshot with the logo used in the current
> skin, colibri
>
> For most of the finalist logos, the _final_ versions were already
> uploaded here:
> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 .
> For those who were not updated, we will use the initial submissions
> for round 2 as well,
> and voters will have to use their imagination in case
> any of the required use cases is missing.
>
>
> VOTING:
>
> You can send your vote on the mailing list (d...@xwiki.org or
> users@xwiki.org), in reply to this email. No twitter votes this time.
>
> Each voter can grant a whole +1 to only one of the 6 finalists
> (
> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2#HFinalistproposals
> ).
>
> IMPORTANT: Before choosing a logo based on your personal preference,
> please try to also ask yourself the following questions:
>
> * Is it distinctive? Note that it should not resemble other logos,
> including the XWiki SAS/xwiki.com logo.
> * Is it easy to remember and recognize?
> * Does it blend in smoothly with the Colibri skin? With the new
> XWiki.org skin? Note that adjustments to the skin is possible, in order
> to better integrate with the logo.
> * Is the design scalable? Could it (or parts of it) be
> successfully used in a 16X16 icon? Would it look good on a very large
> poster?
> * Can it be used (as it is, or adapted) on both light and dark backgrounds?
> * What would it look like in black and white (not just grayscale)?
> It's ok if some details are lost, but it needs to still look
> attractive and keep the main features.
>
>
> TIMELINE:
>
> 08/Apr/10 : Beginning of second round of votes on d...@xwiki.org,
> users@xwiki.org
> 11/Apr/10 : End of votes

Given that the vote started a bit late (Thursday evening) and it was a 
holiday week, the vote period should be extended for a few days, let's 
say until Thursday 15. midnight GMT.

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Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2

2010-04-11 Thread Alex Busenius
+1 for 16

IMO the version with straight W is better.

Alex

On 04/08/2010 06:02 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:
> Hello XWiki Community,
> 
> We're still looking for the new XWiki.org logo. First of all, many 
> thanks to all those who submitted their ideas ( 
> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallenge ). After the 
> first round of votes (digest here:
> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ah6DqXzfHT2vdHV5Ty1LX3lKU3U5V3M4YmNFSXEzcVE&hl=en),
> we chose 6 "popular" proposals for the second round:
> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 .
> 
> The authors of these proposals were asked to do the following, if not
> already done for round 1:
>  * try to integrate any constructive feedback that came with the
> votes (a digest of the feedback from the emails is available for each
> proposal on
> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 )
>  * polish the design (if they consider it necessary)
>  * provide the requested variations for .org, enterprise and office
>  * provide samples for light and dark background
>  * provide a black&white version
>  * provide a 16X16 icon containing the logo or a representative part
> of the logo
>  * provide a nice "Powered by XWiki" button that goes with the logo
>  * provide a mockup/screenshot with the logo used in the current
> skin, colibri
> 
> For most of the finalist logos, the _final_ versions were already 
> uploaded here:
> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 .
> For those who were not updated, we will use the initial submissions
> for round 2 as well,
> and voters will have to use their imagination in case
> any of the required use cases is missing.
> 
> 
> VOTING:
> 
> You can send your vote on the mailing list (d...@xwiki.org or 
> users@xwiki.org), in reply to this email. No twitter votes this time.
> 
> Each voter can grant a whole +1 to only one of the 6 finalists
> ( 
> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2#HFinalistproposals
>  
> ).
> 
> IMPORTANT: Before choosing a logo based on your personal preference,
> please try to also ask yourself the following questions:
> 
>  * Is it distinctive? Note that it should not resemble other logos,
> including the XWiki SAS/xwiki.com logo.
>  * Is it easy to remember and recognize?
>  * Does it blend in smoothly with the Colibri skin? With the new
> XWiki.org skin? Note that adjustments to the skin is possible, in order 
> to better integrate with the logo.
>  * Is the design scalable? Could it (or parts of it) be
> successfully used in a 16X16 icon? Would it look good on a very large
> poster?
>  * Can it be used (as it is, or adapted) on both light and dark 
> backgrounds?
>  * What would it look like in black and white (not just grayscale)?
> It's ok if some details are lost, but it needs to still look
> attractive and keep the main features.
> 
> 
> TIMELINE:
> 
> 08/Apr/10 : Beginning of second round of votes on d...@xwiki.org,
> users@xwiki.org
> 11/Apr/10 : End of votes
> 
> 
> Thanks,
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Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2

2010-04-11 Thread Denis Gervalle
Since the original 15 were my preferred but the review has nothing to do
with the original one and is now closer to existing logos, since my second
choice 19 has not been review and integrated and that 12E is definitively
nice but too close to the original logo, the match is between 4A and 16B for
me.

Both have been improved well, especially 4A, and both could do, except that
I do not found the small icon and the "powered by" one really nice or
readable. Since I had to choose only one, I have finally preferred the
technicality of 16B slanted and its different versions for each products,
over the color pencils of 4A, that evoke for me, drawings, children and
games, ideas being not the initial purpose of XWiki :-)

+1 for 16B

Great jobs guys for these proposals, many thanks,

Denis

On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 19:33, Trevor Russ  wrote:

> Ah, it could just be due to the "printscreen of a quick SVG".  The "powered
> by" buttons were unreadable to the point where if I didn't know what their
> intent was, I wouldn't know what they were other than coloured blobs with
> some white writing.  I presume the final versions would be large enough to
> be legible.
>
> "Zooming in" on the screenshots show them up better, and while I like the
> full "XWiki" logo, I find the Icon and Button "X" part to be a little
> thin/weak and maybe spread out.  I don't know how else to describe it.
>
> What I really like about 16B is the different logos for .org, Enterprise,
> and Office.
>
> Trevor
>
> On Fri, 09 Apr 2010 16:31:34 +0200 Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:
> > On 04/09/2010 04:03 PM, Trevor Russ wrote:
> > > +1 16B.
> > >
> > > Although I found the "powered by" buttons for most submissions
> (including 16) to be almost unreadable.
> >
> > Any hints on how to improve it? What exactly is wrong?
> >
> > Note that the buttons are not completely polished yet, this is just a
> > printscreen of a quick SVG.
> >
> > > Trevor
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Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2

2010-04-09 Thread Trevor Russ
Ah, it could just be due to the "printscreen of a quick SVG".  The "powered by" 
buttons were unreadable to the point where if I didn't know what their intent 
was, I wouldn't know what they were other than coloured blobs with some white 
writing.  I presume the final versions would be large enough to be legible.

"Zooming in" on the screenshots show them up better, and while I like the full 
"XWiki" logo, I find the Icon and Button "X" part to be a little thin/weak and 
maybe spread out.  I don't know how else to describe it.

What I really like about 16B is the different logos for .org, Enterprise, and 
Office.

Trevor

On Fri, 09 Apr 2010 16:31:34 +0200 Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:
> On 04/09/2010 04:03 PM, Trevor Russ wrote:
> > +1 16B.
> >
> > Although I found the "powered by" buttons for most submissions (including 
> > 16) to be almost unreadable.
> 
> Any hints on how to improve it? What exactly is wrong?
> 
> Note that the buttons are not completely polished yet, this is just a 
> printscreen of a quick SVG.
> 
> > Trevor

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Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2

2010-04-09 Thread Valerie Mortagne

 +1 for the 12E, I like the softness of the shape


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Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2

2010-04-09 Thread [Ricardo Rodriguez] eBioTIC.
Hi everybody!

I would like to regain access to this list by voting here. Thanks for 
the chance. With a brand new hat, but still Ricardo!

*
+1 for number 19
*

Even though I would encourage the author/s to develop and show us 
integration with Colibri, mockups and so on, so forth! I am not a 
graphic designer, but asymmetry or apparent lack of internal structure 
is not handicap for me. XWiki is intended to help to evolve contents 
with an apparent lack of structure to structured, even semantically 
structured, ones!

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Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2

2010-04-09 Thread GeLo
+1 for the 16B

I think the straight W is more easy to read, and it is very distinctive.

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Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2

2010-04-09 Thread Sergiu Dumitriu
On 04/09/2010 04:03 PM, Trevor Russ wrote:
> +1 16B.
>
> Although I found the "powered by" buttons for *most* submissions (including 
> 16) to be almost unreadable.

Any hints on how to improve it? What exactly is wrong?

Note that the buttons are not completely polished yet, this is just a 
printscreen of a quick SVG.

> Trevor


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Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2

2010-04-09 Thread Trevor Russ
+1 16B. 

Although I found the "powered by" buttons for *most* submissions (including 16) 
to be almost unreadable.

Trevor

On Thu, 08 Apr 2010 18:02:34 +0200 Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:
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> 
> We're still looking for the new XWiki.org logo. First of all, many 

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Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2

2010-04-08 Thread Jeroen Baten
+1 4A

On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 18:02 +0200, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:
> Hello XWiki Community,
> 
> We're still looking for the new XWiki.org logo. First of all, many 
> thanks to all those who submitted their ideas ( 
> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallenge ). After the 




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Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2

2010-04-08 Thread coldserenity

+1 to 16B (16-default-straight.png)
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Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2

2010-04-08 Thread Caleb James DeLisle
+1 12E

Caleb

Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:
> Hello XWiki Community,
> 
> We're still looking for the new XWiki.org logo. First of all, many 
> thanks to all those who submitted their ideas ( 
> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallenge ). After the 
> first round of votes (digest here:
> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ah6DqXzfHT2vdHV5Ty1LX3lKU3U5V3M4YmNFSXEzcVE&hl=en),
> we chose 6 "popular" proposals for the second round:
> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 .
> 
> The authors of these proposals were asked to do the following, if not
> already done for round 1:
>  * try to integrate any constructive feedback that came with the
> votes (a digest of the feedback from the emails is available for each
> proposal on
> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 )
>  * polish the design (if they consider it necessary)
>  * provide the requested variations for .org, enterprise and office
>  * provide samples for light and dark background
>  * provide a black&white version
>  * provide a 16X16 icon containing the logo or a representative part
> of the logo
>  * provide a nice "Powered by XWiki" button that goes with the logo
>  * provide a mockup/screenshot with the logo used in the current
> skin, colibri
> 
> For most of the finalist logos, the _final_ versions were already 
> uploaded here:
> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 .
> For those who were not updated, we will use the initial submissions
> for round 2 as well,
> and voters will have to use their imagination in case
> any of the required use cases is missing.
> 
> 
> VOTING:
> 
> You can send your vote on the mailing list (d...@xwiki.org or 
> users@xwiki.org), in reply to this email. No twitter votes this time.
> 
> Each voter can grant a whole +1 to only one of the 6 finalists
> ( 
> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2#HFinalistproposals
>  
> ).
> 
> IMPORTANT: Before choosing a logo based on your personal preference,
> please try to also ask yourself the following questions:
> 
>  * Is it distinctive? Note that it should not resemble other logos,
> including the XWiki SAS/xwiki.com logo.
>  * Is it easy to remember and recognize?
>  * Does it blend in smoothly with the Colibri skin? With the new
> XWiki.org skin? Note that adjustments to the skin is possible, in order 
> to better integrate with the logo.
>  * Is the design scalable? Could it (or parts of it) be
> successfully used in a 16X16 icon? Would it look good on a very large
> poster?
>  * Can it be used (as it is, or adapted) on both light and dark 
> backgrounds?
>  * What would it look like in black and white (not just grayscale)?
> It's ok if some details are lost, but it needs to still look
> attractive and keep the main features.
> 
> 
> TIMELINE:
> 
> 08/Apr/10 : Beginning of second round of votes on d...@xwiki.org,
> users@xwiki.org
> 11/Apr/10 : End of votes
> 
> 
> Thanks,

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Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2

2010-04-08 Thread Catalin Hritcu

+1 for number 4

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[xwiki-users] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2

2010-04-08 Thread Sergiu Dumitriu
Hello XWiki Community,

We're still looking for the new XWiki.org logo. First of all, many 
thanks to all those who submitted their ideas ( 
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallenge ). After the 
first round of votes (digest here:
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ah6DqXzfHT2vdHV5Ty1LX3lKU3U5V3M4YmNFSXEzcVE&hl=en),
we chose 6 "popular" proposals for the second round:
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 .

The authors of these proposals were asked to do the following, if not
already done for round 1:
 * try to integrate any constructive feedback that came with the
votes (a digest of the feedback from the emails is available for each
proposal on
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 )
 * polish the design (if they consider it necessary)
 * provide the requested variations for .org, enterprise and office
 * provide samples for light and dark background
 * provide a black&white version
 * provide a 16X16 icon containing the logo or a representative part
of the logo
 * provide a nice "Powered by XWiki" button that goes with the logo
 * provide a mockup/screenshot with the logo used in the current
skin, colibri

For most of the finalist logos, the _final_ versions were already 
uploaded here:
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 .
For those who were not updated, we will use the initial submissions
for round 2 as well,
and voters will have to use their imagination in case
any of the required use cases is missing.


VOTING:

You can send your vote on the mailing list (d...@xwiki.org or 
users@xwiki.org), in reply to this email. No twitter votes this time.

Each voter can grant a whole +1 to only one of the 6 finalists
( 
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2#HFinalistproposals 
).

IMPORTANT: Before choosing a logo based on your personal preference,
please try to also ask yourself the following questions:

 * Is it distinctive? Note that it should not resemble other logos,
including the XWiki SAS/xwiki.com logo.
 * Is it easy to remember and recognize?
 * Does it blend in smoothly with the Colibri skin? With the new
XWiki.org skin? Note that adjustments to the skin is possible, in order 
to better integrate with the logo.
 * Is the design scalable? Could it (or parts of it) be
successfully used in a 16X16 icon? Would it look good on a very large
poster?
 * Can it be used (as it is, or adapted) on both light and dark 
backgrounds?
 * What would it look like in black and white (not just grayscale)?
It's ok if some details are lost, but it needs to still look
attractive and keep the main features.


TIMELINE:

08/Apr/10 : Beginning of second round of votes on d...@xwiki.org,
users@xwiki.org
11/Apr/10 : End of votes


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Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki Logo Challenge

2010-03-29 Thread Sergiu Dumitriu
FYI, the current vote results are available at
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ah6DqXzfHT2vdHV5Ty1LX3lKU3U5V3M4YmNFSXEzcVE&hl=en
and it looks like there is no clear winner. At the moment it seems
that we'll have a second round with 4, 12, 15 and 16 (and maybe 19).

In the spreadsheet I converted non-numerical votes to what I felt was
the intent of the voter, please correct if my assumptions were wrong.

Only two days left for the first round of votes.

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 13:17, Sergiu Dumitriu  wrote:
> Hi Community,
>
> The XWiki Logo proposal period is now closed, many thanks to everyone who
> participated. It is now the time to vote the new logo amongst the 19
> proposals available here:
>
> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallenge#HProposals
>
> You can send your vote:
> - on the mailing list, by replying to this e-mail
> - on twitter, in the format: #xwikilogo 
>
> Don't hesitate to nominate several proposals if you feel that they are
> really close and you cannot decide for just one. Sometimes, a bunch of fuzzy
> opinions can lead to a more accurate result.
>
> IMPORTANT:
> Before choosing a logo based on your personal preference, please try to also
> ask yourself the following questions:
> - Is it distinctive?
> - Is it easy to remember and recognize?
> - Is the design scalable? Could it (or parts of it) be successfully used in
> a 16X16 icon? Would it look good on a very large poster?
> - Can it be used (as it is, or adapted) on both light and dark backgrounds?
> - What would it look like in black and white (not just grayscale)? It's ok
> if some details are lost, but it needs to still look attractive and keep the
> main features.
>
> Motivating your vote also helps better understand what qualities a logo
> evokes in people's minds.
>
> Also note that the designs are not final, the selected proposal will be
> further tweaked and perfected, so don't discard a logo just for minor flaws.
>
> If several proposals come close to being selected, we could organize a
> second round of voting.
>
> Please send us your votes before March 31st.
>
>
> On 03/01/2010 05:57 PM, Jean-Vincent Drean wrote:
>>
>> Hi XWikiers!
>>
>> It's time to inject new blood in XWiki.org. While discussing about
>> improving its look&  feel we thought it would be a good time to create
>> a new logo for XWiki.org as it's an important part of a website
>> design.
>> We borrowed the current logo from XWiki.com some time ago and, in
>> order to keep the distinction between the company and the Open-Source
>> project clear, we think XWiki.org websites and projects need their own
>> logo.
>>
>> As you may know, we love proposals, that's why we'd like to make the
>> logo design an open challenge, anyone interested can join and a vote
>> amongst the community will determine the winner. Even if the main
>> purpose of the challenge is to have fun, the person whose design gets
>> selected will receive XWiki goodies, including his logo printed on a
>> t-shirt obviously :) The designer of the selected logo will enter the
>> Hall Of Fame, and last but not least reward : the design will be
>> spread wide (XWiki Enterprise is more than 1 downloads/month and
>> XWiki.org web site more than 5 visits a month).
>>
>> The challenge takes place there:
>> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/LogoChallenge

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Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki Logo Challenge

2010-03-29 Thread Silvia Rusu

Hi,

+1 for 12A

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Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki Logo Challenge

2010-03-29 Thread Emilie Ogez
My favorite is also 15.


Denis Gervalle a écrit :
> My favorite is 15.
>
> * nice work done for 15 but i find the logo too similar to Atlassian
>   
>> logo (any basic human based logo would look too Atlassiannish to me i
>> think)
>> 
>
>
> I strongly disagree that just because it represent a people, it is Atlassian
> like, they do not hold the exclusivity of people logos.
> Atlasian logo is like a weight-lifter that lift the world, very straight on
> its foot. Nothing to do with a happy jumping man, using really curved shape
> at all !
>
> XWiki is about peoples sharing information and compare to most other logo,
> 15 is one that have the most interesting evocation.
> Without dash, in red or another color, avoiding blue (even if I like it) and
> probably using a more curved font to improve, if needed, the clear
> difference it have with the Atlassian logo.
> I would be curious to see what Vishal could propose with some more work.
>
> 19 would be my second choice, since it is curved, and even nice straight
> logo like 7, 8 or 16 evoke to me some inflexibility or technicality, which
> is frightening.
>
> 12 could be interesting as a continuation on the initial theme, but it would
> be less distinctive with XWiki.com, probably a nice evolution for them not
> for the open-source one.
>
> 1, 2 and 13 are not scaling. 17 is nice, but not scaling and evocation is
> inappropriate. Appart for not being easy to scale, I feel 4 is not readable
> for newcomers, using only 2 pencils, could probably helps there.
>
> Many thanks to all designers anyway for their proposal and please do not
> feel hurt by my remarks that I really hope to be constructive.
>
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Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki Logo Challenge

2010-03-29 Thread Denis Gervalle
My favorite is 15.

* nice work done for 15 but i find the logo too similar to Atlassian
> logo (any basic human based logo would look too Atlassiannish to me i
> think)


I strongly disagree that just because it represent a people, it is Atlassian
like, they do not hold the exclusivity of people logos.
Atlasian logo is like a weight-lifter that lift the world, very straight on
its foot. Nothing to do with a happy jumping man, using really curved shape
at all !

XWiki is about peoples sharing information and compare to most other logo,
15 is one that have the most interesting evocation.
Without dash, in red or another color, avoiding blue (even if I like it) and
probably using a more curved font to improve, if needed, the clear
difference it have with the Atlassian logo.
I would be curious to see what Vishal could propose with some more work.

19 would be my second choice, since it is curved, and even nice straight
logo like 7, 8 or 16 evoke to me some inflexibility or technicality, which
is frightening.

12 could be interesting as a continuation on the initial theme, but it would
be less distinctive with XWiki.com, probably a nice evolution for them not
for the open-source one.

1, 2 and 13 are not scaling. 17 is nice, but not scaling and evocation is
inappropriate. Appart for not being easy to scale, I feel 4 is not readable
for newcomers, using only 2 pencils, could probably helps there.

Many thanks to all designers anyway for their proposal and please do not
feel hurt by my remarks that I really hope to be constructive.

Denis
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Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki Logo Challenge

2010-03-28 Thread Marius Dumitru Florea
I like 2B, 4A, 5, 8, 9B, 12A, 12E and 16B.
The best IMO are 2B, 4A, 12E and 16B.
My favorite is 16B.

Thanks,
Marius

Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:
> Hi Community,
> 
> The XWiki Logo proposal period is now closed, many thanks to everyone 
> who participated. It is now the time to vote the new logo amongst the 19 
> proposals available here:
> 
> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallenge#HProposals
> 
> You can send your vote:
> - on the mailing list, by replying to this e-mail
> - on twitter, in the format: #xwikilogo 
> 
> Don't hesitate to nominate several proposals if you feel that they are 
> really close and you cannot decide for just one. Sometimes, a bunch of 
> fuzzy opinions can lead to a more accurate result.
> 
> IMPORTANT:
> Before choosing a logo based on your personal preference, please try to 
> also ask yourself the following questions:
> - Is it distinctive?
> - Is it easy to remember and recognize?
> - Is the design scalable? Could it (or parts of it) be successfully used 
> in a 16X16 icon? Would it look good on a very large poster?
> - Can it be used (as it is, or adapted) on both light and dark backgrounds?
> - What would it look like in black and white (not just grayscale)? It's 
> ok if some details are lost, but it needs to still look attractive and 
> keep the main features.
> 
> Motivating your vote also helps better understand what qualities a logo 
> evokes in people's minds.
> 
> Also note that the designs are not final, the selected proposal will be 
> further tweaked and perfected, so don't discard a logo just for minor flaws.
> 
> If several proposals come close to being selected, we could organize a 
> second round of voting.
> 
> Please send us your votes before March 31st.
> 
> 
> On 03/01/2010 05:57 PM, Jean-Vincent Drean wrote:
>> Hi XWikiers!
>>
>> It's time to inject new blood in XWiki.org. While discussing about
>> improving its look&  feel we thought it would be a good time to create
>> a new logo for XWiki.org as it's an important part of a website
>> design.
>> We borrowed the current logo from XWiki.com some time ago and, in
>> order to keep the distinction between the company and the Open-Source
>> project clear, we think XWiki.org websites and projects need their own
>> logo.
>>
>> As you may know, we love proposals, that's why we'd like to make the
>> logo design an open challenge, anyone interested can join and a vote
>> amongst the community will determine the winner. Even if the main
>> purpose of the challenge is to have fun, the person whose design gets
>> selected will receive XWiki goodies, including his logo printed on a
>> t-shirt obviously :) The designer of the selected logo will enter the
>> Hall Of Fame, and last but not least reward : the design will be
>> spread wide (XWiki Enterprise is more than 1 downloads/month and
>> XWiki.org web site more than 5 visits a month).
>>
>> The challenge takes place there:
>> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/LogoChallenge
> 
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Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki Logo Challenge

2010-03-26 Thread coldserenity

I'm only 2-weeks-old XWiki user and I'm once more impressed with it. This
time it's the amount of people having contributed to new logo design
elections.

My votes are
* +1.0 for Proposal 16.A (nice idea of combining the X and the font for
E and O :) )
* But as well I liked Proposal 11 
* And as well I like the current XWiki logo :)

Some thoughts aloud
* When thinking of XWiki I see structuring documents, bringing order and
simplicity of display to the knowledge. I see rectangle-based (which is as
well a man's invention of structure) UI (by default currently it's colibri
theme), simple and light-weight. So to make XWiki logo organically co-exist
with XWiki's purpose an design it should be: simple and firm (angular with
little-to-no round elements). (BTW, current XWiki logo satisfies this
criteria.) That's the reason for my choice. 

Just interesting to notice
* Proposal 2.  The idea to use swastika and 4 colours of elements of
nature is quite common (like Microsoft Windows and now Google do.
accidentally?). So it might help project from esoteric point of view ;). One
note though is that swastika in suggested template rotates
counter-clock-wise (the one Nazi have been using) which symbolises chaos and
destruction. So need to turn it to the opposite (again like MS and Google
do) to be able to use it.

And of-course some nit-picking remarks for the competes to my choice :)
* Proposal 5. I think it's too heavy in details
* Proposal 12,13,19. Contains asymmetric and amorphous (which means no
internal structure) letter X (the cornerstone letter in logo)
* In Proposal 15. Really big work has been done and interesting ideas
behind symbols. Just noticed that applying the "firm" pattern will result in 
http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira/ Jira /
http://www.atlassian.com/software/confluence/ Confluence  logo.

PS: It's always easier to find flaws than creating something on once own. So
please accept my remarks as a requested feedback (tried to make at least
constructive). Nice work, ALL!


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Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki Logo Challenge

2010-03-26 Thread Fabio Mancinelli
On Mar 26, 2010, at 12:17 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:

> Hi Community,
> 
> The XWiki Logo proposal period is now closed, many thanks to everyone 
> who participated. It is now the time to vote the new logo amongst the 19 
> proposals available here:
> 
> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallenge#HProposals
> 
> You can send your vote:
> - on the mailing list, by replying to this e-mail
> - on twitter, in the format: #xwikilogo 
> 
> Don't hesitate to nominate several proposals if you feel that they are 
> really close and you cannot decide for just one. Sometimes, a bunch of 
> fuzzy opinions can lead to a more accurate result.
> 
+0.5 for 4C
+0.5 for 5

I've found them very nice, colorful, simple to remember and also with good 
micro-logo/poster potentiality.
4C is nice because the 4 pencils gives the idea of collaborative writing, and 
the dematerialized part of the X recalls the idea of "digital" content.
5 is nice because the flock of squares recalls documents that can be 
reorganized in different in different structures.

For both logos, I just have a little remark about the font used. It is, IMHO, 
too "skinny" and gives me the impression that it's not properly antialiased 
(like the fonts we used long time ago on our desktops). I understand that a 
bolder font could compromise the result, but maybe another skinny font could be 
chosen... The W really looks bad wrt antialiasing.

-Fabio

P.S.: Kudos to all the people who submitted a proposal... They are all very 
cool!
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Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki Logo Challenge

2010-03-26 Thread GeLo
I vote for 12D, I like the orange ball on the top of I, it's very dynamic.
I also like 19 as a second choice.

Maxime
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Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki Logo Challenge

2010-03-26 Thread Thomas Mortagne
* 7 has a simple and easy to recognized micro logo but colors are
really not very nice
* 8 is the one i prefer visually but it's maybe a bit too complex
* 12 E is very nice too and has better micro log but not sure it would
be nice on a dark backgroud
* nice work done for 15 but i find the logo too similar to Atlassian
logo (any basic human based logo would look too Atlassiannish to me i
think)

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:17, Sergiu Dumitriu  wrote:
> Hi Community,
>
> The XWiki Logo proposal period is now closed, many thanks to everyone
> who participated. It is now the time to vote the new logo amongst the 19
> proposals available here:
>
> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallenge#HProposals
>
> You can send your vote:
> - on the mailing list, by replying to this e-mail
> - on twitter, in the format: #xwikilogo 
>
> Don't hesitate to nominate several proposals if you feel that they are
> really close and you cannot decide for just one. Sometimes, a bunch of
> fuzzy opinions can lead to a more accurate result.
>
> IMPORTANT:
> Before choosing a logo based on your personal preference, please try to
> also ask yourself the following questions:
> - Is it distinctive?
> - Is it easy to remember and recognize?
> - Is the design scalable? Could it (or parts of it) be successfully used
> in a 16X16 icon? Would it look good on a very large poster?
> - Can it be used (as it is, or adapted) on both light and dark backgrounds?
> - What would it look like in black and white (not just grayscale)? It's
> ok if some details are lost, but it needs to still look attractive and
> keep the main features.
>
> Motivating your vote also helps better understand what qualities a logo
> evokes in people's minds.
>
> Also note that the designs are not final, the selected proposal will be
> further tweaked and perfected, so don't discard a logo just for minor flaws.
>
> If several proposals come close to being selected, we could organize a
> second round of voting.
>
> Please send us your votes before March 31st.
>
>
> On 03/01/2010 05:57 PM, Jean-Vincent Drean wrote:
>> Hi XWikiers!
>>
>> It's time to inject new blood in XWiki.org. While discussing about
>> improving its look&  feel we thought it would be a good time to create
>> a new logo for XWiki.org as it's an important part of a website
>> design.
>> We borrowed the current logo from XWiki.com some time ago and, in
>> order to keep the distinction between the company and the Open-Source
>> project clear, we think XWiki.org websites and projects need their own
>> logo.
>>
>> As you may know, we love proposals, that's why we'd like to make the
>> logo design an open challenge, anyone interested can join and a vote
>> amongst the community will determine the winner. Even if the main
>> purpose of the challenge is to have fun, the person whose design gets
>> selected will receive XWiki goodies, including his logo printed on a
>> t-shirt obviously :) The designer of the selected logo will enter the
>> Hall Of Fame, and last but not least reward : the design will be
>> spread wide (XWiki Enterprise is more than 1 downloads/month and
>> XWiki.org web site more than 5 visits a month).
>>
>> The challenge takes place there:
>> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/LogoChallenge
>
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Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki Logo Challenge

2010-03-26 Thread Trevor Russ
+0.2 7 - good concept, but would suggest colour changes (it's a little 
unexciting compared to the others)
+0.1 8 - I like it visually, but am trying to see the relevance of the gears
+0.1 20 is intriguing, but the shorthand versions are a little cryptic
+0.6 12D or E- lively, fun, and linked to the old one

To those who contributed: very nice work!  

Trevor
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Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki Logo Challenge

2010-03-26 Thread Caleb James DeLisle
Not sure what I like yet but I wanted to make a few notes.

12 & 13 bear a strong resemblance to an American telephone company.
http://wigab.com/images/site/2007-01/blog/44-Cingular_Dropped_Out.jpg

7 looks like barbed wire which isn't very inviting. I think only a slight 
change would be necessary to stop that.

15 uses a hyphen which is not in the url, however I think the egg shaped 
background is symbolic of the extendability of XWiki.

14 has an X which looks like it could be used in other places as an icon.

11 I like the hummingbird but the font seems mismatched.

Caleb

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Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki Logo Challenge

2010-03-26 Thread Sergiu Dumitriu
On 03/26/2010 12:17 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:
> Hi Community,
>
> The XWiki Logo proposal period is now closed, many thanks to everyone
> who participated. It is now the time to vote the new logo amongst the 19
> proposals available here:

One last proposal added, so now we have 20 in total.

> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallenge#HProposals
>
> You can send your vote:
> - on the mailing list, by replying to this e-mail
> - on twitter, in the format: #xwikilogo 
>
> Don't hesitate to nominate several proposals if you feel that they are
> really close and you cannot decide for just one. Sometimes, a bunch of
> fuzzy opinions can lead to a more accurate result.
>
> IMPORTANT:
> Before choosing a logo based on your personal preference, please try to
> also ask yourself the following questions:
> - Is it distinctive?
> - Is it easy to remember and recognize?
> - Is the design scalable? Could it (or parts of it) be successfully used
> in a 16X16 icon? Would it look good on a very large poster?
> - Can it be used (as it is, or adapted) on both light and dark backgrounds?
> - What would it look like in black and white (not just grayscale)? It's
> ok if some details are lost, but it needs to still look attractive and
> keep the main features.
>
> Motivating your vote also helps better understand what qualities a logo
> evokes in people's minds.
>
> Also note that the designs are not final, the selected proposal will be
> further tweaked and perfected, so don't discard a logo just for minor
> flaws.
>
> If several proposals come close to being selected, we could organize a
> second round of voting.
>
> Please send us your votes before March 31st.
>
>
> On 03/01/2010 05:57 PM, Jean-Vincent Drean wrote:
>> Hi XWikiers!
>>
>> It's time to inject new blood in XWiki.org. While discussing about
>> improving its look& feel we thought it would be a good time to create
>> a new logo for XWiki.org as it's an important part of a website
>> design.
>> We borrowed the current logo from XWiki.com some time ago and, in
>> order to keep the distinction between the company and the Open-Source
>> project clear, we think XWiki.org websites and projects need their own
>> logo.
>>
>> As you may know, we love proposals, that's why we'd like to make the
>> logo design an open challenge, anyone interested can join and a vote
>> amongst the community will determine the winner. Even if the main
>> purpose of the challenge is to have fun, the person whose design gets
>> selected will receive XWiki goodies, including his logo printed on a
>> t-shirt obviously :) The designer of the selected logo will enter the
>> Hall Of Fame, and last but not least reward : the design will be
>> spread wide (XWiki Enterprise is more than 1 downloads/month and
>> XWiki.org web site more than 5 visits a month).
>>
>> The challenge takes place there:
>> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/LogoChallenge
>


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Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki Logo Challenge

2010-03-26 Thread Sergiu Dumitriu
My votes:

+0.2 for 7, it's simple and scalable, has a micro-logo.

+0.2 for 12 (A or E), it's friendly looking, has a micro-logo, and it 
still resembles the previous logo, so has familiarity.

+0.2 for 15, it's simple and metaphoric, can be animated, has a 
micro-logo; note that it will have to be edited, since there's no dash 
in the name.

+0.4 for 16, it's simple, scales well, has a micro-logo which can be 
animated or mash-up-ed.

On 03/26/2010 12:17 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:
> Hi Community,
>
> The XWiki Logo proposal period is now closed, many thanks to everyone
> who participated. It is now the time to vote the new logo amongst the 19
> proposals available here:
>
> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallenge#HProposals
>
> You can send your vote:
> - on the mailing list, by replying to this e-mail
> - on twitter, in the format: #xwikilogo 
>
> Don't hesitate to nominate several proposals if you feel that they are
> really close and you cannot decide for just one. Sometimes, a bunch of
> fuzzy opinions can lead to a more accurate result.
>
> IMPORTANT:
> Before choosing a logo based on your personal preference, please try to
> also ask yourself the following questions:
> - Is it distinctive?
> - Is it easy to remember and recognize?
> - Is the design scalable? Could it (or parts of it) be successfully used
> in a 16X16 icon? Would it look good on a very large poster?
> - Can it be used (as it is, or adapted) on both light and dark backgrounds?
> - What would it look like in black and white (not just grayscale)? It's
> ok if some details are lost, but it needs to still look attractive and
> keep the main features.
>
> Motivating your vote also helps better understand what qualities a logo
> evokes in people's minds.
>
> Also note that the designs are not final, the selected proposal will be
> further tweaked and perfected, so don't discard a logo just for minor
> flaws.
>
> If several proposals come close to being selected, we could organize a
> second round of voting.
>
> Please send us your votes before March 31st.
>
>
> On 03/01/2010 05:57 PM, Jean-Vincent Drean wrote:
>> Hi XWikiers!
>>
>> It's time to inject new blood in XWiki.org. While discussing about
>> improving its look& feel we thought it would be a good time to create
>> a new logo for XWiki.org as it's an important part of a website
>> design.
>> We borrowed the current logo from XWiki.com some time ago and, in
>> order to keep the distinction between the company and the Open-Source
>> project clear, we think XWiki.org websites and projects need their own
>> logo.
>>
>> As you may know, we love proposals, that's why we'd like to make the
>> logo design an open challenge, anyone interested can join and a vote
>> amongst the community will determine the winner. Even if the main
>> purpose of the challenge is to have fun, the person whose design gets
>> selected will receive XWiki goodies, including his logo printed on a
>> t-shirt obviously :) The designer of the selected logo will enter the
>> Hall Of Fame, and last but not least reward : the design will be
>> spread wide (XWiki Enterprise is more than 1 downloads/month and
>> XWiki.org web site more than 5 visits a month).
>>
>> The challenge takes place there:
>> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/LogoChallenge
>


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Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki Logo Challenge

2010-03-26 Thread Jeroen Baten
My 2 cents:

4B

Stylish, cool, multi-functional

5 is a nice second.

On Fri, 2010-03-26 at 12:17 +0100, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:
> Hi Community,
> 
> The XWiki Logo proposal period is now closed, many thanks to everyone 
> who participated. It is now the time to vote the new logo amongst the 19 
> proposals available here:
> 
> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallenge#HProposals
> 
> You can send your vote:
> - on the mailing list, by replying to this e-mail
> - on twitter, in the format: #xwikilogo 
> 
> Don't hesitate to nominate several proposals if you feel that they are 
> really close and you cannot decide for just one. Sometimes, a bunch of 
> fuzzy opinions can lead to a more accurate result.
> 
> IMPORTANT:
> Before choosing a logo based on your personal preference, please try to 
> also ask yourself the following questions:
> - Is it distinctive?
> - Is it easy to remember and recognize?
> - Is the design scalable? Could it (or parts of it) be successfully used 
> in a 16X16 icon? Would it look good on a very large poster?
> - Can it be used (as it is, or adapted) on both light and dark backgrounds?
> - What would it look like in black and white (not just grayscale)? It's 
> ok if some details are lost, but it needs to still look attractive and 
> keep the main features.
> 
> Motivating your vote also helps better understand what qualities a logo 
> evokes in people's minds.
> 
> Also note that the designs are not final, the selected proposal will be 
> further tweaked and perfected, so don't discard a logo just for minor flaws.
> 
> If several proposals come close to being selected, we could organize a 
> second round of voting.
> 
> Please send us your votes before March 31st.
> 
> 
> On 03/01/2010 05:57 PM, Jean-Vincent Drean wrote:
> > Hi XWikiers!
> >
> > It's time to inject new blood in XWiki.org. While discussing about
> > improving its look&  feel we thought it would be a good time to create
> > a new logo for XWiki.org as it's an important part of a website
> > design.
> > We borrowed the current logo from XWiki.com some time ago and, in
> > order to keep the distinction between the company and the Open-Source
> > project clear, we think XWiki.org websites and projects need their own
> > logo.
> >
> > As you may know, we love proposals, that's why we'd like to make the
> > logo design an open challenge, anyone interested can join and a vote
> > amongst the community will determine the winner. Even if the main
> > purpose of the challenge is to have fun, the person whose design gets
> > selected will receive XWiki goodies, including his logo printed on a
> > t-shirt obviously :) The designer of the selected logo will enter the
> > Hall Of Fame, and last but not least reward : the design will be
> > spread wide (XWiki Enterprise is more than 1 downloads/month and
> > XWiki.org web site more than 5 visits a month).
> >
> > The challenge takes place there:
> > http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/LogoChallenge
> 



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Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki Logo Challenge

2010-03-26 Thread Valdis Vītoliņš
+3 Proposal 19
+2 Proposal 5
+1 Proposal 16 B

Valdis

> Hi Community,
> 
> The XWiki Logo proposal period is now closed, many thanks to everyone 
> who participated. It is now the time to vote the new logo amongst the 19 
> proposals available here:
> 
> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallenge#HProposals
> 
> You can send your vote:
> - on the mailing list, by replying to this e-mail
> - on twitter, in the format: #xwikilogo 
> 
> Don't hesitate to nominate several proposals if you feel that they are 
> really close and you cannot decide for just one. Sometimes, a bunch of 
> fuzzy opinions can lead to a more accurate result.
> 
> IMPORTANT:
> Before choosing a logo based on your personal preference, please try to 
> also ask yourself the following questions:
> - Is it distinctive?
> - Is it easy to remember and recognize?
> - Is the design scalable? Could it (or parts of it) be successfully used 
> in a 16X16 icon? Would it look good on a very large poster?
> - Can it be used (as it is, or adapted) on both light and dark backgrounds?
> - What would it look like in black and white (not just grayscale)? It's 
> ok if some details are lost, but it needs to still look attractive and 
> keep the main features.
> 
> Motivating your vote also helps better understand what qualities a logo 
> evokes in people's minds.
> 
> Also note that the designs are not final, the selected proposal will be 
> further tweaked and perfected, so don't discard a logo just for minor flaws.
> 
> If several proposals come close to being selected, we could organize a 
> second round of voting.
> 
> Please send us your votes before March 31st.
> 
> 
> On 03/01/2010 05:57 PM, Jean-Vincent Drean wrote:
> > Hi XWikiers!
> >
> > It's time to inject new blood in XWiki.org. While discussing about
> > improving its look&  feel we thought it would be a good time to create
> > a new logo for XWiki.org as it's an important part of a website
> > design.
> > We borrowed the current logo from XWiki.com some time ago and, in
> > order to keep the distinction between the company and the Open-Source
> > project clear, we think XWiki.org websites and projects need their own
> > logo.
> >
> > As you may know, we love proposals, that's why we'd like to make the
> > logo design an open challenge, anyone interested can join and a vote
> > amongst the community will determine the winner. Even if the main
> > purpose of the challenge is to have fun, the person whose design gets
> > selected will receive XWiki goodies, including his logo printed on a
> > t-shirt obviously :) The designer of the selected logo will enter the
> > Hall Of Fame, and last but not least reward : the design will be
> > spread wide (XWiki Enterprise is more than 1 downloads/month and
> > XWiki.org web site more than 5 visits a month).
> >
> > The challenge takes place there:
> > http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/LogoChallenge
> 


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Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki Logo Challenge

2010-03-26 Thread Sergiu Dumitriu
Hi Community,

The XWiki Logo proposal period is now closed, many thanks to everyone 
who participated. It is now the time to vote the new logo amongst the 19 
proposals available here:

http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallenge#HProposals

You can send your vote:
- on the mailing list, by replying to this e-mail
- on twitter, in the format: #xwikilogo 

Don't hesitate to nominate several proposals if you feel that they are 
really close and you cannot decide for just one. Sometimes, a bunch of 
fuzzy opinions can lead to a more accurate result.

IMPORTANT:
Before choosing a logo based on your personal preference, please try to 
also ask yourself the following questions:
- Is it distinctive?
- Is it easy to remember and recognize?
- Is the design scalable? Could it (or parts of it) be successfully used 
in a 16X16 icon? Would it look good on a very large poster?
- Can it be used (as it is, or adapted) on both light and dark backgrounds?
- What would it look like in black and white (not just grayscale)? It's 
ok if some details are lost, but it needs to still look attractive and 
keep the main features.

Motivating your vote also helps better understand what qualities a logo 
evokes in people's minds.

Also note that the designs are not final, the selected proposal will be 
further tweaked and perfected, so don't discard a logo just for minor flaws.

If several proposals come close to being selected, we could organize a 
second round of voting.

Please send us your votes before March 31st.


On 03/01/2010 05:57 PM, Jean-Vincent Drean wrote:
> Hi XWikiers!
>
> It's time to inject new blood in XWiki.org. While discussing about
> improving its look&  feel we thought it would be a good time to create
> a new logo for XWiki.org as it's an important part of a website
> design.
> We borrowed the current logo from XWiki.com some time ago and, in
> order to keep the distinction between the company and the Open-Source
> project clear, we think XWiki.org websites and projects need their own
> logo.
>
> As you may know, we love proposals, that's why we'd like to make the
> logo design an open challenge, anyone interested can join and a vote
> amongst the community will determine the winner. Even if the main
> purpose of the challenge is to have fun, the person whose design gets
> selected will receive XWiki goodies, including his logo printed on a
> t-shirt obviously :) The designer of the selected logo will enter the
> Hall Of Fame, and last but not least reward : the design will be
> spread wide (XWiki Enterprise is more than 1 downloads/month and
> XWiki.org web site more than 5 visits a month).
>
> The challenge takes place there:
> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/LogoChallenge

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[xwiki-users] XWiki Logo Challenge

2010-03-01 Thread Jean-Vincent Drean
Hi XWikiers!

It's time to inject new blood in XWiki.org. While discussing about
improving its look & feel we thought it would be a good time to create
a new logo for XWiki.org as it's an important part of a website
design.
We borrowed the current logo from XWiki.com some time ago and, in
order to keep the distinction between the company and the Open-Source
project clear, we think XWiki.org websites and projects need their own
logo.

As you may know, we love proposals, that's why we'd like to make the
logo design an open challenge, anyone interested can join and a vote
amongst the community will determine the winner. Even if the main
purpose of the challenge is to have fun, the person whose design gets
selected will receive XWiki goodies, including his logo printed on a
t-shirt obviously :) The designer of the selected logo will enter the
Hall Of Fame, and last but not least reward : the design will be
spread wide (XWiki Enterprise is more than 1 downloads/month and
XWiki.org web site more than 5 visits a month).

The challenge takes place there:
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/LogoChallenge

Thanks,
JV.
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Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki Logo

2010-02-10 Thread Sergiu Dumitriu
On 02/10/2010 11:54 AM, J. Allen Santos wrote:
>
> Hi,
> could we use the logo of xwiki, modify it, then include it in our project 
> logo?
> Thanks,Allen  

I guess it depends on what your project does, and how exactly will the 
XWiki logo and name be used inside your logo. Could you post a preview?

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[xwiki-users] XWiki Logo

2010-02-10 Thread J. Allen Santos

Hi,
could we use the logo of xwiki, modify it, then include it in our project logo?
Thanks,Allen  
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