Re: [xwiki-users] display page title and name(url) while creating a page

2017-04-27 Thread Vishal
Hi all.. Thanks for taking the issue this much seriously. Hi Vincent.. > Hey, you’re from Pune? :) I’ve been there about 15 times! Hey, you are welcome again.. I would expect you to drop me an email while visiting Pune next time :) > Normal users don't generally care about their URLs and SEO. Hi

Re: [xwiki-users] display page title and name(url) while creating a page

2017-04-24 Thread Vincent Massol
> On 24 Apr 2017, at 12:31, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) wrote: > > Hi, > > Users can change the URL anytime after the page creation, and that is using > the "Rename" action, although I agree that simple users might not really > see the connection between Rename, URLs and

Re: [xwiki-users] display page title and name(url) while creating a page

2017-04-24 Thread Ecaterina Moraru (Valica)
(we usually discuss the UI proposals/changes on the devs list). Thanks, Caty > > > Kind regards, > > > > > Mahomed Hussein > Custodian Data Centre > Email: maho...@custodiandc.com > http://www.CustodianDC.com > > -Original Message- > From

Re: [xwiki-users] display page title and name(url) while creating a page

2017-04-24 Thread Ecaterina Moraru (Valica)
Hi, Users can change the URL anytime after the page creation, and that is using the "Rename" action, although I agree that simple users might not really see the connection between Rename, URLs and Titles. So yes it would be ideal to provide the ability to select (reserve) the URL from the

Re: [xwiki-users] display page title and name(url) while creating a page

2017-04-22 Thread Vishal
Hi all.. Thanks for taking the issue this much seriously. Hi Vincent.. > Hey, you’re from Pune? :) I’ve been there about 15 times! Hey, you are welcome again.. I would expect you to drop me an email while visiting Pune next time :) > Normal users don't generally care about their URLs and SEO. Hi

Re: [xwiki-users] display page title and name(url) while creating a page

2017-04-21 Thread Vincent Massol
t; Mahomed Hussein > Custodian Data Centre > Email: maho...@custodiandc.com > http://www.CustodianDC.com > > -Original Message----- > From: users [mailto:users-boun...@xwiki.org] On Behalf Of Vincent Massol > Sent: 21 April 2017 16:56 > To: XWiki Users <users@xwiki.org>

Re: [xwiki-users] display page title and name(url) while creating a page

2017-04-21 Thread Mahomed Hussein
: maho...@custodiandc.com http://www.CustodianDC.com -Original Message- From: users [mailto:users-boun...@xwiki.org] On Behalf Of Vincent Massol Sent: 21 April 2017 16:56 To: XWiki Users <users@xwiki.org> Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] display page title and name(url) while creating a page Hi again,

Re: [xwiki-users] display page title and name(url) while creating a page

2017-04-21 Thread Vincent Massol
Hi again, > On 21 Apr 2017, at 17:33, Miroslav Galajda wrote: > > Hi, > > this seems to be quite complicated and not complete. > This url-friendly problem does arise not only in page creation process but > also in page renaming. > > The other thing is that custom

Re: [xwiki-users] display page title and name(url) while creating a page

2017-04-21 Thread Miroslav Galajda
Hi, this seems to be quite complicated and not complete. This url-friendly problem does arise not only in page creation process but also in page renaming. The other thing is that custom applications that are creating pages would require to use different approax and will need to be customized

Re: [xwiki-users] display page title and name(url) while creating a page

2017-04-21 Thread Vincent Massol
> On 21 Apr 2017, at 16:19, Miroslav Galajda wrote: > > Hi, the slugify is different component than speakingurl, but currently it > doesn't matter on this. > > Ok, how would we solve this globally? Not only in default page creation > process but also in custom

Re: [xwiki-users] display page title and name(url) while creating a page

2017-04-21 Thread Mahomed Hussein
://www.CustodianDC.com -Original Message- From: users [mailto:users-boun...@xwiki.org] On Behalf Of Vincent Massol Sent: 21 April 2017 12:59 To: XWiki Users <users@xwiki.org> Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] display page title and name(url) while creating a page Hi Mahomed, > On 21 Apr 2017, at 13:50

Re: [xwiki-users] display page title and name(url) while creating a page

2017-04-21 Thread Miroslav Galajda
Hi, the slugify is different component than speakingurl, but currently it doesn't matter on this. Ok, how would we solve this globally? Not only in default page creation process but also in custom applications, that create pages in their own. For example the FAQ uses this code to redirect to new

Re: [xwiki-users] display page title and name(url) while creating a page

2017-04-21 Thread Denis GERMAIN
Jumping abord conversation, the URL friendly links part looks promising ! Users in my company tend to add a lot of special characters in their pages, and having an option to strip those would really be useful for us. I'm afraid I've not read the rest of the conversation so I won't bother you

Re: [xwiki-users] display page title and name(url) while creating a page

2017-04-21 Thread Vincent Massol
> On 21 Apr 2017, at 15:36, Miroslav Galajda wrote: > > Hi, > the solution I've described is javascript based and runs on client-side. > From what I know, the component-based solution, which you propose, would > require to have url-friendly conversion component

Re: [xwiki-users] display page title and name(url) while creating a page

2017-04-21 Thread Miroslav Galajda
Hi, the solution I've described is javascript based and runs on client-side. >From what I know, the component-based solution, which you propose, would require to have url-friendly conversion component usable in java and not as javascript code. Am I right? On 21 April 2017 at 15:28, Vincent Massol

Re: [xwiki-users] display page title and name(url) while creating a page

2017-04-21 Thread Vincent Massol
Hi Miroslav, > On 21 Apr 2017, at 15:05, Miroslav Galajda wrote: > > Hi, let me enter into this conversion. > Some time ago I've asked for help how to solve problem with diacritics (or > accents) in page names when creating new pages so that the have > url-friendly

Re: [xwiki-users] display page title and name(url) while creating a page

2017-04-21 Thread Miroslav Galajda
Hi, let me enter into this conversion. Some time ago I've asked for help how to solve problem with diacritics (or accents) in page names when creating new pages so that the have url-friendly names. You can search for "strip accents from page name used in url" in xwiki users mailing list. I've got

Re: [xwiki-users] display page title and name(url) while creating a page

2017-04-21 Thread Vincent Massol
> On 21 Apr 2017, at 13:52, Marius Dumitru Florea > wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 2:16 PM, Vincent Massol wrote: > >> Hi Caty, >> >>> On 21 Apr 2017, at 12:44, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) >> wrote: >>> >>> Let's see

Re: [xwiki-users] display page title and name(url) while creating a page

2017-04-21 Thread Vincent Massol
title" > > > Kind regards, > > > > > Mahomed Hussein > Custodian Data Centre > Email: maho...@custodiandc.com > http://www.CustodianDC.com > > -Original Message- > From: users [mailto:users-boun...@xwiki.org] On Behalf Of Vincent

Re: [xwiki-users] display page title and name(url) while creating a page

2017-04-21 Thread Marius Dumitru Florea
On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 2:16 PM, Vincent Massol wrote: > Hi Caty, > > > On 21 Apr 2017, at 12:44, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) > wrote: > > > > Let's see what variants we have: > > > > 1. Instead of displaying "Title", display the "Name" instead. > > This

Re: [xwiki-users] display page title and name(url) while creating a page

2017-04-21 Thread Mahomed Hussein
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Re: [xwiki-users] display page title and name(url) while creating a page

2017-04-21 Thread Vincent Massol
Hi Caty, > On 21 Apr 2017, at 12:44, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) wrote: > > Let's see what variants we have: > > 1. Instead of displaying "Title", display the "Name" instead. > This won't solve anything. There is no difference between Page Name and > Page Title for the normal

Re: [xwiki-users] display page title and name(url) while creating a page

2017-04-21 Thread Ecaterina Moraru (Valica)
Let's see what variants we have: 1. Instead of displaying "Title", display the "Name" instead. This won't solve anything. There is no difference between Page Name and Page Title for the normal users. Seeing "Name" instead of "Title", will not stop the users to enter spaces if they want, so the

Re: [xwiki-users] display page title and name(url) while creating a page

2017-04-20 Thread Vincent Massol
> On 20 Apr 2017, at 22:51, Vincent Massol wrote: > > Hi Vishal, > > Ok, I misunderstood you in your first email. I understood the opposite. I > thought you were complaining that have 2 notions (page name + page title) was > confusing but it’s actually the opposite! What

Re: [xwiki-users] display page title and name(url) while creating a page

2017-04-20 Thread Vincent Massol
Hi Vishal, Ok, I misunderstood you in your first email. I understood the opposite. I thought you were complaining that have 2 notions (page name + page title) was confusing but it’s actually the opposite! What you find confusing is the fact that it’s not easy for your users to set both the

Re: [xwiki-users] display page title and name(url) while creating a page

2017-04-20 Thread Vishal
Thanks Vincent for your thorough reply.. You guessed it right. We intend to have clean and short urls for SEO reasons. Current scheme creates two problems: 1) The Page name is fetched automatically from the Title. Often the titles have spaces which translate as *percent characters *in url which

Re: [xwiki-users] display page title and name(url) while creating a page

2017-04-20 Thread Vincent Massol
Hi Vishal, That’s an interesting feedback. We’ve tried to already solve this issue in recent versions of XWiki by having a simplified Page Creation UI but apparently you think there’s still a problem so we need to discuss that to try to find a solution. > On 20 Apr 2017, at 07:31, Vishal

[xwiki-users] display page title and name(url) while creating a page

2017-04-19 Thread Vishal
I want to display Page Name field only while page creation. By default currently it is shown as: It is creating a lot of confusion for my users between Title and Name, and I don't suppose to explain it