On 2011-09-14, Dotan Cohen wrote:
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 23:18, Nuno J. Silva nunojsi...@ist.utl.pt wrote:
Yes, there are deviations. I even remember threads about LibO files
failing ODF validation.
But, as LibreOffice is free software, its source is open. So people who
want to find out
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 23:43, Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl wrote:
Dotan Cohen wrote (12-09-11 20:52)
One team at MS works on MS Office, another on the OOXML standard.
.docx != ooxml
(the MsOffice 2007/2010 file format is not the standard OOXML)
Not that I consider Wikipedia as an
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 23:18, Nuno J. Silva nunojsi...@ist.utl.pt wrote:
Yes, there are deviations. I even remember threads about LibO files
failing ODF validation.
But, as LibreOffice is free software, its source is open. So people who
want to find out how exactly are LibO ODF files
Dotan Cohen wrote (14-09-11 10:17)
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 23:43, Cor Nouwsoo...@nouenoff.nl wrote:
Dotan Cohen wrote (12-09-11 20:52)
.docx != ooxml
(the MsOffice 2007/2010 file format is not the standard OOXML)
Not that I consider Wikipedia as an authoritative source, but this
states
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 21:58, Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl wrote:
It states that MsOffice 2007/2010 supports OOXML to a certain level and
refers to the promises that future versions will do better.
In addition, these are stated:
Starting with Microsoft Office 2007, the Office Open XML file
I rarely use presentation documents, but, I will see if I can create an
example of the failure and file a bug unless someone else can do this.
Also interested in the numbering/bullet issue that you mentioned.
If you have a simple example of both documents, can you just email me a
copy. Worst
Am 12.09.2011 02:28, Edwin Powell wrote:
If LibreOffice and OpenOffice.org did not support M$ Office file
formats, nobody would support them. Like it or not, the M$ Office file
formats, both the older ones and the newer XML based ones, are the
defacto industry standards. The greatest marketing
Hi :)
Andrew there is a guide to help people post bug-reports
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport
I agree with NoOp, that it is too obscure. I would like it if there was a
link to it from a couple of different pages on the LO website, for example
it's relevant to both these pages imo
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 00:13, Nuno J. Silva nunojsi...@ist.utl.pt wrote:
Yes, that's the issue. I don't know about the binary formats, but I've
read that Microsoft does not actually *follow* OOXML. (This, if true,
means, ironically, that there is no program with complete, 100%, OOXML
On 2011-09-12, Dotan Cohen wrote:
On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 23:41, Anthony Papillion
anth...@cryptofreaks.tk wrote:
MS don't implement their standard in the way that they wrote they
would. Having set a standard anyone that follows that standard is
guaranteed to produce things that are a
Dotan Cohen wrote (12-09-11 20:52)
One team at MS works on MS Office, another on the OOXML standard.
.docx != ooxml
(the MsOffice 2007/2010 file format is not the standard OOXML)
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The answer is obvious. Save in odf and get used to using odf.
When there is a requirement to use an MS suffix,use Save As to do a copy in
doc or docx, but keep your copy in odf.
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For me, the answer is NOT obvious, because of (a) the occasional
incompatibilities and (b) the things that are easier in MS Office than
LibreOffice. I've had problems with LibreOffice where I save something
in *.doc format or *.ppt and reopen it, and it's different. Also, I've
been
Spencer,
Any chance you can create a few simple examples and open a bug against
the simple examples?
On 09/11/2011 11:31 AM, Spencer Graves wrote:
For me, the answer is NOT obvious, because of (a) the occasional
incompatibilities and (b) the things that are easier in MS Office than
Hi, Andrew:
Thanks for asking. Attached please find a single slide in
LibreOffice Impress consisting of a single dashed line. When I saved it
in MS Office 97 ppt format and reopened it in LibreOffice Impress 3.4.3,
the dashes were converted visually to solid. When I checked the line
For example, in LibreOffice 3.4.3 Impress, create a dashed line and save it
in MS PowerPoint 97 format. Close then reopen it. When I did that just now
under Windows 7 x64, the line style was lost and it displayed solid.
just checked it in both LO 3.3.4 and 3.4.3.'97 format (ie,ppt) showing
2011/9/11 Spencer Graves spencer.gra...@prodsyse.com:
For me, the answer is NOT obvious, because of (a) the occasional
incompatibilities and (b) the things that are easier in MS Office than
LibreOffice.
How is that not obvious? Just continue using MS Office, or did I miss something?
On 2011-09-11, Spencer Graves wrote:
On 9/11/2011 9:19 AM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote:
Any chance you can create a few simple examples and open a bug
against the simple examples?
Thanks for asking. Attached please find a single slide in
LibreOffice Impress consisting of a single
On 9/11/2011 10:00 AM, Nuno J. Silva wrote:
On 2011-09-11, Spencer Graves wrote:
On 9/11/2011 9:19 AM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote:
Any chance you can create a few simple examples and open a bug
against the simple examples?
Thanks for asking. Attached please find a single slide in
Spencer
The early version of MSO for the Mac left a lot to be desired, so I tried
OOo.
That was about six years ago.
I very quickly graduated onto NeoOffice, a great improvement, then when the
Doc F was founded I moved to LO.
I am treasurer of a society and whilst I am knowledgeable of the
On 9/11/2011 10:37 AM, Tinkerer wrote:
Spencer
The early version of MSO for the Mac left a lot to be desired, so I tried
OOo.
Fifteen years ago, I had compatibility problems with MS Word on PCs and
on Macs: Microsoft was not even compatible with itself across
platforms. That was a
Another example:
1. Download
http://www.cagreens.org/sclara/resources/flyers/noCreditCd-bookmark20110306.odt;.
2. Open in LibreOffice 3.4.3. Save as MS Word 97 *.doc format.
3. Close, then reopen the *.doc version: When I did this now under
Windows 7, this changed
This is a general replay to
Should LibreOffice even support Microsoft secret formats?
illustrating my personal situation, and why my answer is *yes*.
I moved from Microsoft Office Professional to Word Perfect Office
Professional probably 12 to 13 years ago. The reason for the
professional
Spencer
That is odd.
According to the Format/Page the column widths have not been altered.
On the page, they have.
Re. Your comments as to the future of LO and all FOSS.
Count me in.
Tink.
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On 09/11/2011 11:47 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
I'm still bemused by the persistence of the secret Microsoft
formats meme.
As a matter of fact, which formats that matter for OpenOffice are
believed to be secret? I can't find any that OpenOffice converts
that are not public and licensed
On 11/09/2011, Spencer Graves spencer.gra...@prodsyse.com wrote:
LibreOffice. I've had problems with LibreOffice where I save something
in *.doc format or *.ppt and reopen it, and it's different.
This is the fundamental essence of the problem. The majority of m$
users of LO want a free m$
On 09/11/2011 03:05 PM, NoOp wrote:
As a matter of fact, which formats that matter for OpenOffice are
believed to be secret? I can't find any that OpenOffice converts
that are not public and licensed under the Open Specification Promise
as well.
That may not be enough assurance for
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 16:05:01 -0400
From: donmy...@myersfarm.com
My assumption was that the word secret was used where it should have
been propriety. But certainly Microsoft wants to prevent as much
compatibility as possible.
Perhaps I did use 'secret' when I should have used
but the wonkiness is the
unknown factor.
Regards from
Tom :)
--- On Sun, 11/9/11, Anthony Papillion anth...@cryptofreaks.tk wrote:
From: Anthony Papillion anth...@cryptofreaks.tk
Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: Should LibreOffice even support Microsoft
secret formats?
To: LibreOffice Mailing List users
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 21:33:09 +0100
From: tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk
Hi :)
MS don't implement their standard in the way that they wrote they would.
Having set a standard
anyone that follows that standard is guaranteed to produce things that are a
little wonky when
opened in MS
On 2011-09-11, Anthony Papillion wrote:
From: tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk
MS don't implement their standard in the way that they wrote they
would. Having set a standard anyone that follows that standard is
guaranteed to produce things that are a little wonky when opened in
MS Office. LO devs
either but it is trying
to get closer.
Regards from
Tom :)
--- On Sun, 11/9/11, Anthony Papillion anth...@cryptofreaks.tk wrote:
From: Anthony Papillion anth...@cryptofreaks.tk
Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: Should LibreOffice even support Microsoft
secret formats?
To: LibreOffice Mailing
On 09/11/2011 11:06 AM, Spencer Graves wrote:
Another example:
1. Download
http://www.cagreens.org/sclara/resources/flyers/noCreditCd-bookmark20110306.odt;.
2. Open in LibreOffice 3.4.3. Save as MS Word 97 *.doc format.
3. Close, then reopen the *.doc version: When I did
Papillionanth...@cryptofreaks.tk wrote:
From: Anthony Papillionanth...@cryptofreaks.tk
Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: Should LibreOffice even support Microsoft
secret formats?
To: LibreOffice Mailing Listusers@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Sunday, 11 September, 2011, 21:41
Date: Sun, 11
NoOp Dennis:
What is the standard bug reporting procedure for LibreOffice? I
looked at libreoffice.org and didn't find anything, but I didn't look
too hard.
DENNIS: NoOp tested one of the problems I reported; see below.
NoOp: I submitted reproducible examples of two problems
Hi
On Sun, 2011-09-11 at 14:32 -0400, Don Myers wrote:
This is a general replay to
Should LibreOffice even support Microsoft secret formats?
illustrating my personal situation, and why my answer is *yes*.
I moved from Microsoft Office Professional to Word Perfect Office
Professional
On 09/11/2011 04:02 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :) There is a guide here
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport This is mostly guidance
rather than rules as each case might be different. If you can't
include all the info required initially then it can always be added
in later if needed.
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