spellheck again Re: PROBLEM SOLVED Re: problem remains Re: [Issue 127728] SPELLCHECK/DICTIONARY NOT WORKING AFTER UPDATE INSTALL to 4.1.5

2020-03-06 Thread Chris Addington

good morning

i have just set up new laptop & installed openoffice & copying wordbook 
& template files as below


i have noticed that whilst using a template document that spellcheck 
worked ok, but when i used a 'new' document (top left of toolbar) then 
spellcheck does not work


-> 


regardschris

Chris Addington Pr.Eng.

On 10/03/2018 14:24, Chris Addington wrote:


1. file manager, address bar; (select): /app data/roaming/open 
office/4 -> rename user.old.


2. start openoff

3. fm user.old - copy 'wordbook', 'template'; paste into new user 
folder. if you copy all the folders you wind up with same problem, but 
this way you keep your dictionary, templates.


can also get techs to find out by elimination which folder is causing 
problem.


but, this does not alleviate responsibility to WARN people attempting 
to download


sincerely

Chris Addington Pr.Eng.
On 10/03/2018 13:50, Chris Addington wrote:


hi andrea

i tried that - doesn't work (but not sure what is meant by 
'quickstarter', what is it? where is it? close it? how?)


the point is that the bug was KNOWN - had a WARNING been given i 
would NOT have installed - and i would not now be 3 days behind on work.


*i appreciate you are volunteers - i am a volunteer also (in other 
areas) - i do NOT get paid - BUT, BUT, BUT - volunteers still have a 
responsibility to inform correctly - oxfam etc. ignore their 
responsibilities.*


what do i do?

sincerely

Chris Addington Pr.Eng.
On 10/03/2018 13:07, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

Dear Chris,
this is not an OpenOffice bug, but a Windows bug. Do as advised at
https://s.apache.org/g4NG
and it will be fixed.

You can now understand why we strongly prefer to use the standard 
support channels: answers are archived and available to all future 
similar cases. We are all volunteers and personal support is 
unsustainable.


You have been referred multiple times to the public channels. I will 
be unable to continue answering private mails due to time 
constraints, but I'm confident that the procedure above will fix 
your issue.


Regards,
  Andrea.

Il 10/03/2018 12:12, Chris Addington ha scritto:

hi andrea

the other key point is that *it is was KNOWN that there was this 
bug - yet there was NO WARNING given against downloading & 
installing 4.1.5 *- i had purposefully delayed installing 4.1.5 for 
some weeks just to avoid/minimise another install-headache.



but, NO WARNING !


sincerelychris

Chris Addington Pr.Eng.

On 09/03/2018 11:39, Chris Addington wrote:

hi andrea, bugzilla

- i received the mail below saying 'resolved' - downloaded & 
installed 4.1.5 again - PROBLEM REMAINS


you also won't explain 'user profile' - where do i change this - 
the forum simply references 'user profile' but doesn't say where 
to find this.





Chris Addington Pr.Eng.

On 09/03/2018 10:37, bugzi...@apache.org wrote:

https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127728

oooforum (fr)  changed:

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  Status|RESOLVED    |CLOSED













Re: PROBLEM SOLVED Re: problem remains Re: [Issue 127728] SPELLCHECK/DICTIONARY NOT WORKING AFTER UPDATE INSTALL to 4.1.5

2018-03-10 Thread Martin Groenescheij



On 11/03/18 5:17 AM, JD wrote:

A better solution:
do not create a an OpenOffice user profile. PERIOD.
It is totally useless for the correct operation of OO.



And where are user settings stored when there is no user profile?



On 03/10/2018 11:05 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

Maurice Howe wrote:
This guy makes it indelibly clear why users are sometimes encouraged 
to try


I concur this is an example of a user that, while he managed to solve 
it in the end, is quite problematic, noisy, and won't follow any 
advice longer than one line (even though he succeeded when he finally 
tried). And our solution is easy but not super-easy.


I see three ways (two requiring OpenOffice development) to solve this:

1. An OpenOfficeProfileFixer.exe (so to say; I'm note referring to 
something that exists) file that simply renames the user profile 
under Windows. This will cover the large majority of the clueless 
users. This can exist as a separate tool, hosted by an OpenOffice 
committer is his personal space at apache.org.


2. An option to "start clean" at install time, that renames a 
possibly existing OpenOffice profile.


3. A Tools - Reset default settings menu item that renames the 
profile at the next restart of OpenOffice.


There is nothing to fix in the OpenOffice code. Profile corruption 
happens due to many factors, but it is not linked to OpenOffice in a 
clear way: it involves user profiles that are carried over from 
OpenOffice 2.x or 3.x and may already be damaged but working.


So in the end one of the three options above is the best mitigation.

Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: PROBLEM SOLVED Re: problem remains Re: [Issue 127728] SPELLCHECK/DICTIONARY NOT WORKING AFTER UPDATE INSTALL to 4.1.5

2018-03-10 Thread JD

A better solution:
do not create a an OpenOffice user profile. PERIOD.
It is totally useless for the correct operation of OO.


On 03/10/2018 11:05 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

Maurice Howe wrote:
This guy makes it indelibly clear why users are sometimes encouraged 
to try


I concur this is an example of a user that, while he managed to solve 
it in the end, is quite problematic, noisy, and won't follow any 
advice longer than one line (even though he succeeded when he finally 
tried). And our solution is easy but not super-easy.


I see three ways (two requiring OpenOffice development) to solve this:

1. An OpenOfficeProfileFixer.exe (so to say; I'm note referring to 
something that exists) file that simply renames the user profile under 
Windows. This will cover the large majority of the clueless users. 
This can exist as a separate tool, hosted by an OpenOffice committer 
is his personal space at apache.org.


2. An option to "start clean" at install time, that renames a possibly 
existing OpenOffice profile.


3. A Tools - Reset default settings menu item that renames the profile 
at the next restart of OpenOffice.


There is nothing to fix in the OpenOffice code. Profile corruption 
happens due to many factors, but it is not linked to OpenOffice in a 
clear way: it involves user profiles that are carried over from 
OpenOffice 2.x or 3.x and may already be damaged but working.


So in the end one of the three options above is the best mitigation.

Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: PROBLEM SOLVED Re: problem remains Re: [Issue 127728] SPELLCHECK/DICTIONARY NOT WORKING AFTER UPDATE INSTALL to 4.1.5

2018-03-10 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Maurice Howe wrote:

This guy makes it indelibly clear why users are sometimes encouraged to try


I concur this is an example of a user that, while he managed to solve it 
in the end, is quite problematic, noisy, and won't follow any advice 
longer than one line (even though he succeeded when he finally tried). 
And our solution is easy but not super-easy.


I see three ways (two requiring OpenOffice development) to solve this:

1. An OpenOfficeProfileFixer.exe (so to say; I'm note referring to 
something that exists) file that simply renames the user profile under 
Windows. This will cover the large majority of the clueless users. This 
can exist as a separate tool, hosted by an OpenOffice committer is his 
personal space at apache.org.


2. An option to "start clean" at install time, that renames a possibly 
existing OpenOffice profile.


3. A Tools - Reset default settings menu item that renames the profile 
at the next restart of OpenOffice.


There is nothing to fix in the OpenOffice code. Profile corruption 
happens due to many factors, but it is not linked to OpenOffice in a 
clear way: it involves user profiles that are carried over from 
OpenOffice 2.x or 3.x and may already be damaged but working.


So in the end one of the three options above is the best mitigation.

Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: PROBLEM SOLVED Re: problem remains Re: [Issue 127728] SPELLCHECK/DICTIONARY NOT WORKING AFTER UPDATE INSTALL to 4.1.5

2018-03-10 Thread Maurice Howe
This guy makes it indelibly clear why users are sometimes encouraged to try
LIBRE or ANYthing ​else.

On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 9:24 AM, Chris Addington  wrote:

> 1. file manager, address bar; (select): /app data/roaming/open
> office/4 -> rename user.old.
>
> 2. start openoff
>
> 3. fm user.old - copy 'wordbook', 'template'; paste into new user folder.
> if you copy all the folders you wind up with same problem, but this way you
> keep your dictionary, templates.
>
> can also get techs to find out by elimination which folder is causing
> problem.
>
> but, this does not alleviate responsibility to WARN people attempting to
> download
>
> sincerely
>
> Chris Addington Pr.Eng.
>
> On 10/03/2018 13:50, Chris Addington wrote:
>
>>
>> hi andrea
>>
>> i tried that - doesn't work (but not sure what is meant by
>> 'quickstarter', what is it? where is it? close it? how?)
>>
>> the point is that the bug was KNOWN - had a WARNING been given i would
>> NOT have installed - and i would not now be 3 days behind on work.
>>
>> *i appreciate you are volunteers - i am a volunteer also (in other areas)
>> - i do NOT get paid - BUT, BUT, BUT - volunteers still have a
>> responsibility to inform correctly - oxfam etc. ignore their
>> responsibilities.*
>>
>> what do i do?
>>
>> sincerely
>>
>> Chris Addington Pr.Eng.
>> On 10/03/2018 13:07, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Chris,
>>> this is not an OpenOffice bug, but a Windows bug. Do as advised at
>>> https://s.apache.org/g4NG
>>> and it will be fixed.
>>>
>>> You can now understand why we strongly prefer to use the standard
>>> support channels: answers are archived and available to all future similar
>>> cases. We are all volunteers and personal support is unsustainable.
>>>
>>> You have been referred multiple times to the public channels. I will be
>>> unable to continue answering private mails due to time constraints, but I'm
>>> confident that the procedure above will fix your issue.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>   Andrea.
>>>
>>> Il 10/03/2018 12:12, Chris Addington ha scritto:
>>>
 hi andrea

 the other key point is that *it is was KNOWN that there was this bug -
 yet there was NO WARNING given against downloading & installing 4.1.5 *- i
 had purposefully delayed installing 4.1.5 for some weeks just to
 avoid/minimise another install-headache.


 but, NO WARNING !


 sincerelychris

 Chris Addington Pr.Eng.

 On 09/03/2018 11:39, Chris Addington wrote:

> hi andrea, bugzilla
>
> - i received the mail below saying 'resolved' - downloaded & installed
> 4.1.5 again - PROBLEM REMAINS
>
> you also won't explain 'user profile' - where do i change this - the
> forum simply references 'user profile' but doesn't say where to find this.
>
> 
>
>
> Chris Addington Pr.Eng.
>
> On 09/03/2018 10:37, bugzi...@apache.org wrote:
>
>> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127728
>>
>> oooforum (fr)  changed:
>>
>> What|Removed |Added
>> 
>>
>>   Status|RESOLVED|CLOSED
>>
>>
>

>>>
>>
>


Re: problem remains Re: [Issue 127728] SPELLCHECK/DICTIONARY NOT WORKING AFTER UPDATE INSTALL to 4.1.5

2018-03-10 Thread Chris Addington

hi andrea

the other key point is that *it is was KNOWN that there was this bug - 
yet there was NO WARNING given against downloading & installing 4.1.5 *- 
i had purposefully delayed installing 4.1.5 for some weeks just to 
avoid/minimise another install-headache.



but, NO WARNING !


sincerelychris

Chris Addington Pr.Eng.

On 09/03/2018 11:39, Chris Addington wrote:

hi andrea, bugzilla

- i received the mail below saying 'resolved' - downloaded & installed 
4.1.5 again - PROBLEM REMAINS


you also won't explain 'user profile' - where do i change this - the 
forum simply references 'user profile' but doesn't say where to find 
this.





Chris Addington Pr.Eng.

On 09/03/2018 10:37, bugzi...@apache.org wrote:

https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127728

oooforum (fr)  changed:

What|Removed |Added
 


  Status|RESOLVED|CLOSED







PROBLEM SOLVED Re: problem remains Re: [Issue 127728] SPELLCHECK/DICTIONARY NOT WORKING AFTER UPDATE INSTALL to 4.1.5

2018-03-10 Thread Chris Addington
1. file manager, address bar; (select): /app data/roaming/open 
office/4 -> rename user.old.


2. start openoff

3. fm user.old - copy 'wordbook', 'template'; paste into new user 
folder. if you copy all the folders you wind up with same problem, but 
this way you keep your dictionary, templates.


can also get techs to find out by elimination which folder is causing 
problem.


but, this does not alleviate responsibility to WARN people attempting to 
download


sincerely

Chris Addington Pr.Eng.

On 10/03/2018 13:50, Chris Addington wrote:


hi andrea

i tried that - doesn't work (but not sure what is meant by 
'quickstarter', what is it? where is it? close it? how?)


the point is that the bug was KNOWN - had a WARNING been given i would 
NOT have installed - and i would not now be 3 days behind on work.


*i appreciate you are volunteers - i am a volunteer also (in other 
areas) - i do NOT get paid - BUT, BUT, BUT - volunteers still have a 
responsibility to inform correctly - oxfam etc. ignore their 
responsibilities.*


what do i do?

sincerely

Chris Addington Pr.Eng.
On 10/03/2018 13:07, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

Dear Chris,
this is not an OpenOffice bug, but a Windows bug. Do as advised at
https://s.apache.org/g4NG
and it will be fixed.

You can now understand why we strongly prefer to use the standard 
support channels: answers are archived and available to all future 
similar cases. We are all volunteers and personal support is 
unsustainable.


You have been referred multiple times to the public channels. I will 
be unable to continue answering private mails due to time 
constraints, but I'm confident that the procedure above will fix your 
issue.


Regards,
  Andrea.

Il 10/03/2018 12:12, Chris Addington ha scritto:

hi andrea

the other key point is that *it is was KNOWN that there was this bug 
- yet there was NO WARNING given against downloading & installing 
4.1.5 *- i had purposefully delayed installing 4.1.5 for some weeks 
just to avoid/minimise another install-headache.



but, NO WARNING !


sincerelychris

Chris Addington Pr.Eng.

On 09/03/2018 11:39, Chris Addington wrote:

hi andrea, bugzilla

- i received the mail below saying 'resolved' - downloaded & 
installed 4.1.5 again - PROBLEM REMAINS


you also won't explain 'user profile' - where do i change this - 
the forum simply references 'user profile' but doesn't say where to 
find this.





Chris Addington Pr.Eng.

On 09/03/2018 10:37, bugzi...@apache.org wrote:

https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127728

oooforum (fr)  changed:

What|Removed |Added
 


  Status|RESOLVED|CLOSED













Re: problem remains Re: [Issue 127728] SPELLCHECK/DICTIONARY NOT WORKING AFTER UPDATE INSTALL to 4.1.5

2018-03-10 Thread zahra a
hello.
you can double click on installer file of openoffice and then choose modify.
in the type of installation, select custom and between optional
component, uncheck quick starter.

also, you can uncheck it in openoffice, tools, options, openoffice, memory.

On 3/10/18, Chris Addington  wrote:
> hi andrea
>
> i tried that - doesn't work (but not sure what is meant by
> 'quickstarter', what is it? where is it? close it? how?)
>
> the point is that the bug was KNOWN - had a WARNING been given i would
> NOT have installed - and i would not now be 3 days behind on work.
>
> *i appreciate you are volunteers - i am a volunteer also (in other
> areas) - i do NOT get paid - BUT, BUT, BUT - volunteers still have a
> responsibility to inform correctly - oxfam etc. ignore their
> responsibilities.*
>
> what do i do?
>
> sincerely
>
> Chris Addington Pr.Eng.
>
> On 10/03/2018 13:07, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>> Dear Chris,
>> this is not an OpenOffice bug, but a Windows bug. Do as advised at
>> https://s.apache.org/g4NG
>> and it will be fixed.
>>
>> You can now understand why we strongly prefer to use the standard
>> support channels: answers are archived and available to all future
>> similar cases. We are all volunteers and personal support is
>> unsustainable.
>>
>> You have been referred multiple times to the public channels. I will
>> be unable to continue answering private mails due to time constraints,
>> but I'm confident that the procedure above will fix your issue.
>>
>> Regards,
>>   Andrea.
>>
>> Il 10/03/2018 12:12, Chris Addington ha scritto:
>>> hi andrea
>>>
>>> the other key point is that *it is was KNOWN that there was this bug
>>> - yet there was NO WARNING given against downloading & installing
>>> 4.1.5 *- i had purposefully delayed installing 4.1.5 for some weeks
>>> just to avoid/minimise another install-headache.
>>>
>>>
>>> but, NO WARNING !
>>>
>>>
>>> sincerelychris
>>>
>>> Chris Addington Pr.Eng.
>>>
>>> On 09/03/2018 11:39, Chris Addington wrote:
 hi andrea, bugzilla

 - i received the mail below saying 'resolved' - downloaded &
 installed 4.1.5 again - PROBLEM REMAINS

 you also won't explain 'user profile' - where do i change this - the
 forum simply references 'user profile' but doesn't say where to find
 this.

 


 Chris Addington Pr.Eng.

 On 09/03/2018 10:37, bugzi...@apache.org wrote:
> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127728
>
> oooforum (fr)  changed:
>
> What|Removed |Added
> 
>
>
>   Status|RESOLVED|CLOSED
>

>>>
>>
>
>


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with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
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Re: problem remains Re: [Issue 127728] SPELLCHECK/DICTIONARY NOT WORKING AFTER UPDATE INSTALL to 4.1.5

2018-03-10 Thread Chris Addington

hi andrea

i tried that - doesn't work (but not sure what is meant by 
'quickstarter', what is it? where is it? close it? how?)


the point is that the bug was KNOWN - had a WARNING been given i would 
NOT have installed - and i would not now be 3 days behind on work.


*i appreciate you are volunteers - i am a volunteer also (in other 
areas) - i do NOT get paid - BUT, BUT, BUT - volunteers still have a 
responsibility to inform correctly - oxfam etc. ignore their 
responsibilities.*


what do i do?

sincerely

Chris Addington Pr.Eng.

On 10/03/2018 13:07, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

Dear Chris,
this is not an OpenOffice bug, but a Windows bug. Do as advised at
https://s.apache.org/g4NG
and it will be fixed.

You can now understand why we strongly prefer to use the standard 
support channels: answers are archived and available to all future 
similar cases. We are all volunteers and personal support is 
unsustainable.


You have been referred multiple times to the public channels. I will 
be unable to continue answering private mails due to time constraints, 
but I'm confident that the procedure above will fix your issue.


Regards,
  Andrea.

Il 10/03/2018 12:12, Chris Addington ha scritto:

hi andrea

the other key point is that *it is was KNOWN that there was this bug 
- yet there was NO WARNING given against downloading & installing 
4.1.5 *- i had purposefully delayed installing 4.1.5 for some weeks 
just to avoid/minimise another install-headache.



but, NO WARNING !


sincerelychris

Chris Addington Pr.Eng.

On 09/03/2018 11:39, Chris Addington wrote:

hi andrea, bugzilla

- i received the mail below saying 'resolved' - downloaded & 
installed 4.1.5 again - PROBLEM REMAINS


you also won't explain 'user profile' - where do i change this - the 
forum simply references 'user profile' but doesn't say where to find 
this.





Chris Addington Pr.Eng.

On 09/03/2018 10:37, bugzi...@apache.org wrote:

https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127728

oooforum (fr)  changed:

What|Removed |Added
 


  Status|RESOLVED|CLOSED











Re: problem remains Re: [Issue 127728] SPELLCHECK/DICTIONARY NOT WORKING AFTER UPDATE INSTALL to 4.1.5

2018-03-10 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Andrea Pescetti wrote:
You have been referred multiple times to the public channels. I will be 
unable to continue answering private mails due to time constraints, but 
I'm confident that the procedure above will fix your issue.


Just an explanation for the users list (where apparently the mails were 
not moderated yet): the user has been contacting (spamming, someone 
would say) any Apache e-mail addresses he could find for a few days. It 
looks like he understtod this is the right one at last, but by "private 
mails" I referred to previous conversations and to a long list of 
addresses that were unrelated to OpenOffice.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: problem remains Re: [Issue 127728] SPELLCHECK/DICTIONARY NOT WORKING AFTER UPDATE INSTALL to 4.1.5

2018-03-10 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Dear Chris,
this is not an OpenOffice bug, but a Windows bug. Do as advised at
https://s.apache.org/g4NG
and it will be fixed.

You can now understand why we strongly prefer to use the standard 
support channels: answers are archived and available to all future 
similar cases. We are all volunteers and personal support is unsustainable.


You have been referred multiple times to the public channels. I will be 
unable to continue answering private mails due to time constraints, but 
I'm confident that the procedure above will fix your issue.


Regards,
  Andrea.

Il 10/03/2018 12:12, Chris Addington ha scritto:

hi andrea

the other key point is that *it is was KNOWN that there was this bug - 
yet there was NO WARNING given against downloading & installing 4.1.5 *- 
i had purposefully delayed installing 4.1.5 for some weeks just to 
avoid/minimise another install-headache.



but, NO WARNING !


sincerelychris

Chris Addington Pr.Eng.

On 09/03/2018 11:39, Chris Addington wrote:

hi andrea, bugzilla

- i received the mail below saying 'resolved' - downloaded & installed 
4.1.5 again - PROBLEM REMAINS


you also won't explain 'user profile' - where do i change this - the 
forum simply references 'user profile' but doesn't say where to find 
this.





Chris Addington Pr.Eng.

On 09/03/2018 10:37, bugzi...@apache.org wrote:

https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127728

oooforum (fr)  changed:

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  Status|RESOLVED    |CLOSED







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