Re: [vchkpw] Imap and pop3 problem

2003-12-21 Thread Dean Henrichsmeyer
Just from a best practice stand point, it sounds like you're really 
asking for a headache accessing the same data 2 different ways at the 
same time with the same program. I'd recommend finding a different 
solution. One being setting up a filter in outlook that looks for the 
Spam status header and filtering it in outlook rather than on the 
server (if bandwidth isn't something you're trying to save).

The other being just check the spam folder via webmail once in a while. 
I'd really try and avoid accessing the same data at the same time 2 
different  ways. While unix is forgiving, most client applications 
aren't.

Dean

On Dec 16, 2003, at 5:44 PM, Ross Davis - DataAnywhere.net wrote:

I have configured my new server with pop3 and courier imap.  I built 
the
server within the last week with the latest version from source forge.
I am using maildrop to drop my spam email into a .Spam imap folder and
this works great as I have a folder that is visible from sqwebmail.
That works great.

On my pc (using outlook 2002) I have added one pop3 account to pull the
mail from my inbox off onto my machine and another Imap account that I
can use to monitor my spam folder.  This is really nice concept wise
except I am getting an error about 20% of the time when I check my
email.  If I remove the Imap account I do not get the error.  Outlook
checks both accounts at the same time and there is no way to stop that.
I tried everything.
I think the problem is that imap and pop3 are conflicting with each
other when checking the same account at the same time.  Anyone else
tried this or know of a solution?
Ross Davis
DataAnywhere.net
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Re: [vchkpw] Imap and pop3 problem

2003-12-21 Thread Jeremy Kitchen
On Tue, 2003-12-16 at 19:08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ross Davis - DataAnywhere.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On my pc (using outlook 2002) I have added one pop3 account to pull
  the mail from my inbox off onto my machine and another Imap account
  that I can use to monitor my spam folder.  This is really nice
  concept wise except I am getting an error about 20% of the time when
  I check my email.  If I remove the Imap account I do not get the
  error.  Outlook checks both accounts at the same time and there is
  no way to stop that. I tried everything.
 
  I think the problem is that imap and pop3 are conflicting with each
  other when checking the same account at the same time.  Anyone else
  tried this or know of a solution?

first of all, why use the imap AND pop3 account?  You can view your
inbox with your imap account just fine.  I use imap, and only imap
anymore, as I like to be able to get the same emails from anywhere :)

 Incorrect.  The problem is courier-imap only allows a small amount of imap
 connections per IP, and outlook and outlook express both open several
 connections at a time, and the IMAP server is killing the extra connections.

Unfortunately that is true.  Also unfortunately, Mozilla Thunderbird (at
least for linux) also does that.  It sets up a new connection for each
folder, which, in my case, is very bad, as I have lots of imap folders
(at least 2 for every mailing list I'm on, as well as lots of 'personal'
folders)

I don't use windows anymore, and I never really used Outlook with my
imap server, I've been using evolution under linux for the past 2 years,
which is absolutely wonderful.

I would suggest perhaps trying some other mail clients.  I know eudora
(at least later versions) is very nice, but it's not freeware, so unless
you register it you have a few very small (and unobtrusive) ads in your
main client window (it is NOT spyware, and will NOT pop up ads on you)

Also, I'm sure freshmeat would have a nice listing of free email clients
for windows, certainly one of them will perform well enough for you.  I
certainly wish I could recommend one for you other than Eudora, but I do
not use windows anymore, nor do I feel like installing windows just for
that ;)  Maybe some day...

I am planning on opening a site very soon that will review a lot of
things, I'm semi keeping it secret because I don't own the domain yet
and don't want someone to steal it before I can get it :\  I will put
Windows MUAs on my checklist of things to review, hopefully it will be
helpful to someone.

 Find your 'imapd' file, (default /usr/lib/courier-imap/etc), and find the
 MAXPERIP variable.  Raise it.

That will certainly help, but in my case I would also be limited by the
max connections configuration directive, because I have far more than 40
(which is the default) imap folders.  I think this is more an MUA
problem than a server side problem.

-Jeremy

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[vchkpw] Imap and pop3 problem

2003-12-16 Thread Ross Davis - DataAnywhere.net
I have configured my new server with pop3 and courier imap.  I built the
server within the last week with the latest version from source forge.
I am using maildrop to drop my spam email into a .Spam imap folder and
this works great as I have a folder that is visible from sqwebmail.
That works great.  

On my pc (using outlook 2002) I have added one pop3 account to pull the
mail from my inbox off onto my machine and another Imap account that I
can use to monitor my spam folder.  This is really nice concept wise
except I am getting an error about 20% of the time when I check my
email.  If I remove the Imap account I do not get the error.  Outlook
checks both accounts at the same time and there is no way to stop that.
I tried everything.  

I think the problem is that imap and pop3 are conflicting with each
other when checking the same account at the same time.  Anyone else
tried this or know of a solution?


Ross Davis
DataAnywhere.net
250-470-9192 

ChaletsOnline.com is coming soon
Don't you deserve a vacation!
 




Re: [vchkpw] Imap and pop3 problem

2003-12-16 Thread foo
Ross Davis - DataAnywhere.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On my pc (using outlook 2002) I have added one pop3 account to pull
 the mail from my inbox off onto my machine and another Imap account
 that I can use to monitor my spam folder.  This is really nice
 concept wise except I am getting an error about 20% of the time when
 I check my email.  If I remove the Imap account I do not get the
 error.  Outlook checks both accounts at the same time and there is
 no way to stop that. I tried everything.

 I think the problem is that imap and pop3 are conflicting with each
 other when checking the same account at the same time.  Anyone else
 tried this or know of a solution?

Incorrect.  The problem is courier-imap only allows a small amount of imap
connections per IP, and outlook and outlook express both open several
connections at a time, and the IMAP server is killing the extra connections.

Find your 'imapd' file, (default /usr/lib/courier-imap/etc), and find the
MAXPERIP variable.  Raise it.






Re: [vchkpw] IMAP and Pop3

2003-09-12 Thread Jeremy Kitchen
Please keep your replies on the list so others can share their
knowledge, and so everything stays nice and archived, thanks! :)

On Fri, 2003-09-12 at 06:51, Geoff Byers wrote:
 The messages are in my folder in the qmail home dir, for my account and 
 virtual domain, but it wont send them when my client goes to check for 
 new mail. It doesnt understand they are new i guess. I can download 
 them from the server with IMAP but not pop3. Any ideas?

so is it in your local home directory or in your vpopmail-run domain? 
Also, you still haven't said if it gives you any errors, which is
important to know.

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[vchkpw] IMAP and Pop3

2003-09-11 Thread Geoff Byers
For some reason my pop3d has stopped working. It still running but 
fails to deliver my mail :(. IMAP gets the messages fine but pop3 
refuses to send them.  Any ideas or guesses as to why this is would be 
very helpful, thanks :D

Geoff




Re: [vchkpw] IMAP and Pop3

2003-09-11 Thread Jeremy Kitchen
On Thu, 2003-09-11 at 22:53, Geoff Byers wrote:
 For some reason my pop3d has stopped working. It still running but 
 fails to deliver my mail :(. IMAP gets the messages fine but pop3 
 refuses to send them.  Any ideas or guesses as to why this is would be 
 very helpful, thanks :D

'refuses to send them'  not very helpful.  you get an error message?

also, make sure that the message you are trying to retrieve are in your
inbox, because pop3 doesn't have the capability to look at anything
else.

-Jeremy

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