RE: [vchkpw] How to run multiple qmail-queue
John: i'm not suggesting to have a qmail for each domain, i agree that would be a nightmare... you can have just a qmail for premium domains and a qmail for regular domains. Manish: is that what you want? regards, Ingo Claro Gerente de Operaciones [EMAIL PROTECTED] (+56-2) 43 00 155 -Mensaje original- De: John Simpson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviado el: Domingo, 30 de Octubre de 2005 7:24 Para: vchkpw@inter7.com Asunto: Re: [vchkpw] How to run multiple qmail-queue On 2005-10-29, at 1623, Ingo Claro wrote: but if you install many qmails in different directories (/var/qmail, /var/qmail2, ...) you can have multiple queues. i understand that. i also understand (from direct experience) that it's an administrative nightmare, and it's a lot more work than he needs to do in order to solve the underlying problem. the point of my original answer was that setting up multiple queues is not the best solution for the problem that he's having. a much better solution is to raise the concurrencyremote value, which will create more delivery slots, making it less likely that any one domain's messages would exhaust all of the delivery slots before the normal tcpto mechanism decides to blacklist the non-responsive IP address for an hour (which is why all of the other domains' mail is stopping on his server.) but you seem to be an expert on this. rather than trying to sell me on the idea (you won't, because i don't really care- it's not my server) why don't you answer the original question? explain to him, in terms he will understand, how to successfully get two or more copies of qmail running on the same machine. i'm sure he's waiting for somebody to do just that, and i'm not going to do it because i don't think it's the right solution for his problem. this way handling different priority queues depending on the domain... for example domain1 and domain2 goes to qmail2 and all the rest to qmail3. out of curiosity, how would you set the relative priority of each instance of qmail-send in relation to the others? what makes one queue move faster than the others? and if the idea is to have a separate queue for each domain in order to prevent one domain's mail from interfering with another domain's deliveries, what is your answer for an ISP whose mail server handles mail for thousands of domains- would you have them set up a separate instance of qmail for each domain, so that each domain would have their own queue? -- | John M. Simpson - KG4ZOW - Programmer At Large | | http://www.jms1.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- | Mac OS X proves that it's easier to make UNIX | | pretty than it is to make Windows secure. | --
Re: [vchkpw] How to run multiple qmail-queue
On 2005-10-29, at 1623, Ingo Claro wrote: but if you install many qmails in different directories (/var/qmail, /var/qmail2, ...) you can have multiple queues. i understand that. i also understand (from direct experience) that it's an administrative nightmare, and it's a lot more work than he needs to do in order to solve the underlying problem. the point of my original answer was that setting up multiple queues is not the best solution for the problem that he's having. a much better solution is to raise the concurrencyremote value, which will create more delivery slots, making it less likely that any one domain's messages would exhaust all of the delivery slots before the normal tcpto mechanism decides to blacklist the non-responsive IP address for an hour (which is why all of the other domains' mail is stopping on his server.) but you seem to be an expert on this. rather than trying to sell me on the idea (you won't, because i don't really care- it's not my server) why don't you answer the original question? explain to him, in terms he will understand, how to successfully get two or more copies of qmail running on the same machine. i'm sure he's waiting for somebody to do just that, and i'm not going to do it because i don't think it's the right solution for his problem. this way handling different priority queues depending on the domain... for example domain1 and domain2 goes to qmail2 and all the rest to qmail3. out of curiosity, how would you set the relative priority of each instance of qmail-send in relation to the others? what makes one queue move faster than the others? and if the idea is to have a separate queue for each domain in order to prevent one domain's mail from interfering with another domain's deliveries, what is your answer for an ISP whose mail server handles mail for thousands of domains- would you have them set up a separate instance of qmail for each domain, so that each domain would have their own queue? -- | John M. Simpson - KG4ZOW - Programmer At Large | | http://www.jms1.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- | Mac OS X proves that it's easier to make UNIX | | pretty than it is to make Windows secure. | -- PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [vchkpw] How to run multiple qmail-queue
On 2005-10-28, at 0800, Ingo Claro wrote: Your could have many instances of qmail running in different ports. and with smtproutes deliver some domains to the qmails... no. you can have many instances of qmail-smtpd running on different IP addresses and/or ports, but it's still just the one instance of qmail. there can be only one qmail-send process (which is what i understood the original question to be about when he said qmail- queue- i followed his terminology so he would understand what i was saying, meaning to correct him at the end but i forgot.) for the record, qmail-queue is the program called by qmail-smtpd, qmail-queue, qmail-qmtpd, qmail-qmqpd, and (if you have the mess822 package installed) qmail-ofmipd program. it handles adding messages to the queue. what the original question was asking about, as near as i could tell, was qmail-send. this is the program which manages the messages in the queue, once they've been added. this process handles scheduling all deliveries, either to a mailbox (i.e. a local delivery) or to another mail server (i.e. a remote delivery.) by default, qmail-send will not schedule more than 20 remote deliveries at the same time. if you need to have more outbound deliveries happen at once, you can create or change the /var/qmail/ control/concurrencyremote file. this file should contain the number of remote deliveries you want to see at once. there is an upper limit of 120 on this value, if you need it higher you will need to edit the source code and re-compile qmail. -- | John M. Simpson - KG4ZOW - Programmer At Large | | http://www.jms1.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- | Mac OS X proves that it's easier to make UNIX | | pretty than it is to make Windows secure. | -- PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part
RE: [vchkpw] How to run multiple qmail-queue
but if you install many qmails in different directories (/var/qmail, /var/qmail2, ...) you can have multiple queues. the qmail listening on port 25 with smtp routes to the others qmails (running in other ports) can distribute the mails, this way handling different priority queues depending on the domain... for example domain1 and domain2 goes to qmail2 and all the rest to qmail3. you need the change also concorrencylocal and concurrency remote for parallel dispatching. regards, Ingo Claro Gerente de Operaciones [EMAIL PROTECTED] (+56-2) 43 00 155 -Mensaje original- De: John Simpson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviado el: Sábado, 29 de Octubre de 2005 7:28 Para: vchkpw@inter7.com Asunto: Re: [vchkpw] How to run multiple qmail-queue On 2005-10-28, at 0800, Ingo Claro wrote: Your could have many instances of qmail running in different ports. and with smtproutes deliver some domains to the qmails... no. you can have many instances of qmail-smtpd running on different IP addresses and/or ports, but it's still just the one instance of qmail. there can be only one qmail-send process (which is what i understood the original question to be about when he said qmail- queue- i followed his terminology so he would understand what i was saying, meaning to correct him at the end but i forgot.) for the record, qmail-queue is the program called by qmail-smtpd, qmail-queue, qmail-qmtpd, qmail-qmqpd, and (if you have the mess822 package installed) qmail-ofmipd program. it handles adding messages to the queue. what the original question was asking about, as near as i could tell, was qmail-send. this is the program which manages the messages in the queue, once they've been added. this process handles scheduling all deliveries, either to a mailbox (i.e. a local delivery) or to another mail server (i.e. a remote delivery.) by default, qmail-send will not schedule more than 20 remote deliveries at the same time. if you need to have more outbound deliveries happen at once, you can create or change the /var/qmail/ control/concurrencyremote file. this file should contain the number of remote deliveries you want to see at once. there is an upper limit of 120 on this value, if you need it higher you will need to edit the source code and re-compile qmail. -- | John M. Simpson - KG4ZOW - Programmer At Large | | http://www.jms1.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- | Mac OS X proves that it's easier to make UNIX | | pretty than it is to make Windows secure. | --
Re: [vchkpw] How to run multiple qmail-queue
On 2005-10-27, at 0404, Manish Jain wrote: I have installed netqmail+vpopmail+qmailadmin on RHEL 3.0 I have configured multile domains on the server. And using smtproutes in /var/qmail/control to route the mails of different domains to the clients mailsrevers in remote. I am facing problem, when one PPP link goes down to a customer all the incoming mails from the internet stucks in the qmail-queue as qmail not able to make smtp connection to the client server. In this case mail delivery to all other domain servers get delayed. To resolve the problem I want to run multiple qmai-queue for each domain so that one domain get unaffected from the another's queue. qmail was designed to have exactly one qmail-queue process running at a time. if you want to change this you will have to make some fairly major changes to qmail-queue itself. instead of trying to have two qmail-queue processes, you need to run more qmail-remote processes. raise your concurrencyremote value. read man qmail-queue if you don't know how this works (and add MANPATH /var/qmail/man to your /etc/man.config file if man qmail- queue doesn't work.) -- | John M. Simpson - KG4ZOW - Programmer At Large | | http://www.jms1.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- | Mac OS X proves that it's easier to make UNIX | | pretty than it is to make Windows secure. | -- PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part
RE: [vchkpw] How to run multiple qmail-queue
Your could have many instances of qmail running in different ports. and with smtproutes deliver some domains to the qmails... Ingo Claro Gerente de Operaciones [EMAIL PROTECTED] (+56-2) 43 00 155 -Mensaje original- De: John Simpson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviado el: Viernes, 28 de Octubre de 2005 3:15 Para: vchkpw@inter7.com Asunto: Re: [vchkpw] How to run multiple qmail-queue On 2005-10-27, at 0404, Manish Jain wrote: I have installed netqmail+vpopmail+qmailadmin on RHEL 3.0 I have configured multile domains on the server. And using smtproutes in /var/qmail/control to route the mails of different domains to the clients mailsrevers in remote. I am facing problem, when one PPP link goes down to a customer all the incoming mails from the internet stucks in the qmail-queue as qmail not able to make smtp connection to the client server. In this case mail delivery to all other domain servers get delayed. To resolve the problem I want to run multiple qmai-queue for each domain so that one domain get unaffected from the another's queue. qmail was designed to have exactly one qmail-queue process running at a time. if you want to change this you will have to make some fairly major changes to qmail-queue itself. instead of trying to have two qmail-queue processes, you need to run more qmail-remote processes. raise your concurrencyremote value. read man qmail-queue if you don't know how this works (and add MANPATH /var/qmail/man to your /etc/man.config file if man qmail- queue doesn't work.) -- | John M. Simpson - KG4ZOW - Programmer At Large | | http://www.jms1.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- | Mac OS X proves that it's easier to make UNIX | | pretty than it is to make Windows secure. | --
