Re: [vchkpw] vpopmail via NFS
Nitass Sutaveephamochanon wrote: Hello All, I want to setup qmail with vpopmail that is mounted via NFS. As I tested, the mail message can sent to the new folder of user maildir correctly but I can not pop that message to mail client program. I did not find any error messages on my linux box. Could anyone please suggest me? Thanks for advance, Nitass Hi, Check the time on the two servers, make sure that they are the same. Regards, Rick
Re: [vchkpw] vpopmail via NFS
Hello Rick, I got it. Thank you very much. :-) If you do not mind, could you please advice me how the time is involved to this issue? Thanks and regards, Nitass - Original Message - From: Rick Macdougall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vchkpw@inter7.com Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 8:29 PM Subject: Re: [vchkpw] vpopmail via NFS Nitass Sutaveephamochanon wrote: Hello All, I want to setup qmail with vpopmail that is mounted via NFS. As I tested, the mail message can sent to the new folder of user maildir correctly but I can not pop that message to mail client program. I did not find any error messages on my linux box. Could anyone please suggest me? Thanks for advance, Nitass Hi, Check the time on the two servers, make sure that they are the same. Regards, Rick
Re: [vchkpw] vpopmail via NFS
Nitass Sutaveephamochanon wrote: Hello Rick, I got it. Thank you very much. :-) If you do not mind, could you please advice me how the time is involved to this issue? Hi, A new message comes in. The message gets stored on the NFS server. The time on the pop server is 10 minutes behind the time on the NFS server, the pop server doesn't see the new message until 10 minutes is passed because the time stamp on the new message is 10 minutes in the future. Regards, Rick
Re: [vchkpw] vpopmail via NFS
Hi Rick, Thank you so much. Nice to meet you, Nitass - Original Message - From: Rick Macdougall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vchkpw@inter7.com Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 9:24 PM Subject: Re: [vchkpw] vpopmail via NFS Nitass Sutaveephamochanon wrote: Hello Rick, I got it. Thank you very much. :-) If you do not mind, could you please advice me how the time is involved to this issue? Hi, A new message comes in. The message gets stored on the NFS server. The time on the pop server is 10 minutes behind the time on the NFS server, the pop server doesn't see the new message until 10 minutes is passed because the time stamp on the new message is 10 minutes in the future. Regards, Rick
RE: [vchkpw] vpopmail via NFS
try using ntp kenneth gf brown ceo shadowplay.net -Original Message- From: Rick Macdougall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: November 15, 2005 08:24 To: vchkpw@inter7.com Subject: Re: [vchkpw] vpopmail via NFS Nitass Sutaveephamochanon wrote: Hello Rick, I got it. Thank you very much. :-) If you do not mind, could you please advice me how the time is involved to this issue? Hi, A new message comes in. The message gets stored on the NFS server. The time on the pop server is 10 minutes behind the time on the NFS server, the pop server doesn't see the new message until 10 minutes is passed because the time stamp on the new message is 10 minutes in the future. Regards, Rick __ NOD32 1.1170 (20050715) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com
Re: [vchkpw] vpopmail via NFS
Hello, Thanks for advice. I will use it. I have one more question. Have anyone used vpopmail via SMB protocol? I mean the vpopmail is mounted from windows to linux box. I have tried but it did not work. The qmail-send log message has shown as delivery 16: failure: link_REALLY_failed. Thanks, Nitass - Original Message - From: shadowplay.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vchkpw@inter7.com Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 11:52 PM Subject: RE: [vchkpw] vpopmail via NFS try using ntp kenneth gf brown ceo shadowplay.net -Original Message- From: Rick Macdougall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: November 15, 2005 08:24 To: vchkpw@inter7.com Subject: Re: [vchkpw] vpopmail via NFS Nitass Sutaveephamochanon wrote: Hello Rick, I got it. Thank you very much. :-) If you do not mind, could you please advice me how the time is involved to this issue? Hi, A new message comes in. The message gets stored on the NFS server. The time on the pop server is 10 minutes behind the time on the NFS server, the pop server doesn't see the new message until 10 minutes is passed because the time stamp on the new message is 10 minutes in the future. Regards, Rick __ NOD32 1.1170 (20050715) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com
Re: [vchkpw] vpopmail via NFS
/var/qmail/queue must be mounted locally. Nitass Sutaveephamochanon wrote: Hello, Thanks for advice. I will use it. I have one more question. Have anyone used vpopmail via SMB protocol? I mean the vpopmail is mounted from windows to linux box. I have tried but it did not work. The qmail-send log message has shown as delivery 16: failure: link_REALLY_failed. Thanks, Nitass - Original Message - From: shadowplay.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vchkpw@inter7.com Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 11:52 PM Subject: RE: [vchkpw] vpopmail via NFS try using ntp kenneth gf brown ceo shadowplay.net -Original Message- From: Rick Macdougall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: November 15, 2005 08:24 To: vchkpw@inter7.com Subject: Re: [vchkpw] vpopmail via NFS Nitass Sutaveephamochanon wrote: Hello Rick, I got it. Thank you very much. :-) If you do not mind, could you please advice me how the time is involved to this issue? Hi, A new message comes in. The message gets stored on the NFS server. The time on the pop server is 10 minutes behind the time on the NFS server, the pop server doesn't see the new message until 10 minutes is passed because the time stamp on the new message is 10 minutes in the future. Regards, Rick __ NOD32 1.1170 (20050715) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com
Re: [vchkpw] vpopmail via NFS
Thanks for reply. Only the vpopmail directory was mounted from windows machine. Others were in the local file system. Any suggestions please let me know. Thanks, Nitass - Original Message - From: Ken Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vchkpw@inter7.com Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 2:00 AM Subject: Re: [vchkpw] vpopmail via NFS /var/qmail/queue must be mounted locally. Nitass Sutaveephamochanon wrote: Hello, Thanks for advice. I will use it. I have one more question. Have anyone used vpopmail via SMB protocol? I mean the vpopmail is mounted from windows to linux box. I have tried but it did not work. The qmail-send log message has shown as delivery 16: failure: link_REALLY_failed. Thanks, Nitass - Original Message - From: shadowplay.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vchkpw@inter7.com Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 11:52 PM Subject: RE: [vchkpw] vpopmail via NFS try using ntp kenneth gf brown ceo shadowplay.net -Original Message- From: Rick Macdougall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: November 15, 2005 08:24 To: vchkpw@inter7.com Subject: Re: [vchkpw] vpopmail via NFS Nitass Sutaveephamochanon wrote: Hello Rick, I got it. Thank you very much. :-) If you do not mind, could you please advice me how the time is involved to this issue? Hi, A new message comes in. The message gets stored on the NFS server. The time on the pop server is 10 minutes behind the time on the NFS server, the pop server doesn't see the new message until 10 minutes is passed because the time stamp on the new message is 10 minutes in the future. Regards, Rick __ NOD32 1.1170 (20050715) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com
RE: [vchkpw] vpopmail via NFS
smb isn't meant for *nix to *nix connectivity :) Just stick with nfs. I've got 4 inbound smtp servers that deliver via nfs...works pretty well. Bill Shupp has a good flow chart of a good way to do a mail cluster via nfs. It's at http://shupp.org/maps/ispcluster.html Some people also deliver via smtproutes too...there was a discussion on the list about a month or so ago about that. Check the list archives. t. -Original Message- From: Nitass Sutaveephamochanon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 10:05 AM To: vchkpw@inter7.com Subject: Re: [vchkpw] vpopmail via NFS Hello, Thanks for advice. I will use it. I have one more question. Have anyone used vpopmail via SMB protocol? I mean the vpopmail is mounted from windows to linux box. I have tried but it did not work. The qmail-send log message has shown as delivery 16: failure: link_REALLY_failed. Thanks, Nitass
RE: [vchkpw] vpopmail via NFS
I use NFS for my vpopmail directories, and haven't seen this.. I'm assuming you're using CDB files for auth; that means the DB files are all on NFS. If you don't have your root mapped properly, you won't be able to create files. Try using -maproot=0 (freebsd, others may be similar) in your exports on the NFS server, and re-mount the NFS mountpoint; see if that helps. Andre -Original Message- From: James McMillan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 11:47 AM To: vchkpw@inter7.com Subject: [vchkpw] vpopmail via NFS Has anyone tried to hold the vpopmail home as a NFS mount? I've gotten the mount setup properly, and the permissions are fine, however when adding a domain or a user I recieve the following error. minoru# ./bin/vadduser [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please enter password for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: enter password again: Failed while attempting to add user to auth backend Error: no auth connection If copy out all the files in the ~vpopmail mount, unmount, and copy the files into the now-local ~/vpopmail I do not have this problem. Has anyone done this, or know what the problem is? Thanks in advance. Jimmy McMillan -- James McMillan V.P. Of Information Technology www.TheNetMark.com 412 New Broadway Brooklawn, NJ 08030 888.767.8750 X106
Re: [vchkpw] vpopmail via NFS
Hey thanks... Let me explain the scenario a bit better. NFS Server is a Slackware 10.1 box. NFS Client (and qmail/vpopmail server) is a FreeBSD 5.4 box. My server side client export file looks like this. /mnt/hd/mail_store/test minoru(no_root_squash,rw,sync) I believe the 'no_root_squash' flag is the equiv of the -maproot=0 for BSD/other OS's. I'm not having any issue at all creating files, chowning, or chmoding. It seems that it's a simple locking problem. [lockd] seems to be running on the NFS host, however I'm wondering if it's the difference in NFS standards. I've compiled vpopmail with the --disable-file-locking configure flag, and then everything seems to work fine, however it's not very multi-user-safe. Any other thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Jimmy Andre Fortin wrote: I use NFS for my vpopmail directories, and haven't seen this.. I'm assuming you're using CDB files for auth; that means the DB files are all on NFS. If you don't have your root mapped properly, you won't be able to create files. Try using -maproot=0 (freebsd, others may be similar) in your exports on the NFS server, and re-mount the NFS mountpoint; see if that helps. Andre -Original Message- From: James McMillan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 11:47 AM To: vchkpw@inter7.com Subject: [vchkpw] vpopmail via NFS Has anyone tried to hold the vpopmail home as a NFS mount? I've gotten the mount setup properly, and the permissions are fine, however when adding a domain or a user I recieve the following error. minoru# ./bin/vadduser [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please enter password for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: enter password again: Failed while attempting to add user to auth backend Error: no auth connection If copy out all the files in the ~vpopmail mount, unmount, and copy the files into the now-local ~/vpopmail I do not have this problem. Has anyone done this, or know what the problem is? Thanks in advance. Jimmy McMillan -- James McMillan V.P. Of Information Technology www.TheNetMark.com 412 New Broadway Brooklawn, NJ 08030 888.767.8750 X106 -- James McMillan V.P. Of Information Technology www.TheNetMark.com 412 New Broadway Brooklawn, NJ 08030 888.767.8750 X106
RE: [vchkpw] vpopmail via NFS
I would reccomend having your slackware server running MySQL or some other type of database server. The installing the mysql client binaries and libraries on your frontend mail servers. Compile vpopmail for mysql (or the db backend of your choice) with replication. Designate your slackware server as your writing server, and the local boxes as your reading server. Then, on each local machine setup mysql replication from the frontend mail server(s) as slaves to the master slackware server on the backend. Then, mount your ~vpopmail/etc and ~vpopmail/domains, and possibly ~vpopmail/bin depending on how you want to set it up, via NFS from the slackware backend server to your bsd frontend servers. With a SQL server handling the authentication it will help you in a couple of ways. First is that you won't need to worry about file locking issues since the the SQL server will take care of all of that. Second would be improved performance, since you'll be querying a local database instead of having to travel across NFS to deliver the mail. And lastly, you could even apply the MySQL patch to tcpserver to do pop-before-smtp authentication out of the MySQL database in place of the cdb file. This would only be a problem if you were getting so many pop connections that it couldn't rebuild the cdb file fast enough. Another workaround for the whole rebuilding tcp.smtp.cdb file thing is to use the relay-ctrl program from untroubled.org for relay control. -Clayton -Original Message- From: James McMillan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 10:39 AM To: vchkpw@inter7.com Subject: Re: [vchkpw] vpopmail via NFS Hey thanks... Let me explain the scenario a bit better. NFS Server is a Slackware 10.1 box. NFS Client (and qmail/vpopmail server) is a FreeBSD 5.4 box. My server side client export file looks like this. /mnt/hd/mail_store/test minoru(no_root_squash,rw,sync) I believe the 'no_root_squash' flag is the equiv of the -maproot=0 for BSD/other OS's. I'm not having any issue at all creating files, chowning, or chmoding. It seems that it's a simple locking problem. [lockd] seems to be running on the NFS host, however I'm wondering if it's the difference in NFS standards. I've compiled vpopmail with the --disable-file-locking configure flag, and then everything seems to work fine, however it's not very multi-user-safe. Any other thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Jimmy Andre Fortin wrote: I use NFS for my vpopmail directories, and haven't seen this.. I'm assuming you're using CDB files for auth; that means the DB files are all on NFS. If you don't have your root mapped properly, you won't be able to create files. Try using -maproot=0 (freebsd, others may be similar) in your exports on the NFS server, and re-mount the NFS mountpoint; see if that helps. Andre -Original Message- From: James McMillan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 11:47 AM To: vchkpw@inter7.com Subject: [vchkpw] vpopmail via NFS Has anyone tried to hold the vpopmail home as a NFS mount? I've gotten the mount setup properly, and the permissions are fine, however when adding a domain or a user I recieve the following error. minoru# ./bin/vadduser [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please enter password for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: enter password again: Failed while attempting to add user to auth backend Error: no auth connection If copy out all the files in the ~vpopmail mount, unmount, and copy the files into the now-local ~/vpopmail I do not have this problem. Has anyone done this, or know what the problem is? Thanks in advance. Jimmy McMillan -- James McMillan V.P. Of Information Technology www.TheNetMark.com 412 New Broadway Brooklawn, NJ 08030 888.767.8750 X106 -- James McMillan V.P. Of Information Technology www.TheNetMark.com 412 New Broadway Brooklawn, NJ 08030 888.767.8750 X106
RE: [vchkpw] vpopmail via NFS
Slight correction on my verbage there: Second would be improved performance, since you'll be querying a local database instead of having to travel across NFS to deliver the mail. I meant to say that it won't have to travel across NFS to find if the user exists, only to deliver the mail.
Re: [vchkpw] vpopmail via NFS
Clayton, thanks... that's exactully what i did. Everything seems good now. Thanks a million for you input. Jimmy Clayton Weise wrote: Slight correction on my verbage there: Second would be improved performance, since you'll be querying a local database instead of having to travel across NFS to deliver the mail. I meant to say that it won't have to travel across NFS to find if the user exists, only to deliver the mail. -- James McMillan V.P. Of Information Technology www.TheNetMark.com 412 New Broadway Brooklawn, NJ 08030 888.767.8750 X106