Re: [vchkpw] Spamassassin: i wish..

2004-03-12 Thread Jeremy Kitchen
On Fri, 2004-03-12 at 14:53, X-Istence wrote:

> >>The BSD code had a hard set limit, with the --enable-spam-threshold=15, 
> >>which means that anything over 15 would get DELETED, and not just 
> >>tagged, which is what SA does normally.
 
> > does normally?  SA is only used for tagging mail.  You can send me a
> > GTUBE email and it won't get deleted, even with a score of 1000.
 
> Well, spamc somehow returns the amount of points it got some how, and 
> that is how it gets deleted.

usually via message header, which can be parsed by a MDA such as
maildrop or mailfront.

I prefer the on/off switch type of headers though for filtering :)

-Jeremy

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Re: [vchkpw] Spamassassin: i wish..

2004-03-12 Thread X-Istence
Jeremy Kitchen wrote:
On Fri, 2004-03-12 at 14:35, X-Istence wrote:

Ken Jones wrote:

On Friday 12 March 2004 6:35 am, Cristiano Deana wrote:


Il giorno Friday 12 March 2004 12:53, X-Istence mi scriveva:


Now spam threshold is hardcoded with --enable-spam-threshold=15
shouldn't be better to put it in vlimits.default?
I think this should be made an option, if it is not set, look for
vlimits.default, if it is set, then use it hard coded,
Yes, better.
Very well.


In the patch I have based on the BSD patch, it uses
the required_hits in the system global setting, normally in 
/etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf and can be overriden by
a users .spamassassin/users_pref file. So there is no
need for an --enable-spam-threshold option. Spamassassin
adds a header X-Spam-Flag: YES if the email goes over
the required_hit count. 

I'm going to try and add the code to the cvs version over the
weekend. 

Ken Jones





The BSD code had a hard set limit, with the --enable-spam-threshold=15, 
which means that anything over 15 would get DELETED, and not just 
tagged, which is what SA does normally.


does normally?  SA is only used for tagging mail.  You can send me a
GTUBE email and it won't get deleted, even with a score of 1000.

See, i like to have anything over 4 points tagged, then if for some 
reason, it is really spam, it will reach the 10 points i set with the 
enable flag, and vldelivermail will delete it instead of writing it to 
disk. Its one way i have kept my mail box clean of a lot of crud, as 
really, i dont want it to be saved if it is just spam.


yea, I like that sort of dual threshold setup as well.  Perhaps
spamassassin could be made to have dual thresholds and have like a
X-REALLY-SPAM: header.  I prefer not trying to compare values, but check
for 'flags' personally.
-Jeremy

Well, spamc somehow returns the amount of points it got some how, and 
that is how it gets deleted.

X-Istence


Re: [vchkpw] Spamassassin: i wish..

2004-03-12 Thread Jeremy Kitchen
On Fri, 2004-03-12 at 14:35, X-Istence wrote:
> Ken Jones wrote:
> > On Friday 12 March 2004 6:35 am, Cristiano Deana wrote:
> > 
> >>Il giorno Friday 12 March 2004 12:53, X-Istence mi scriveva:
> >>
> Now spam threshold is hardcoded with --enable-spam-threshold=15
> shouldn't be better to put it in vlimits.default?
> >>>
> >>>I think this should be made an option, if it is not set, look for
> >>>vlimits.default, if it is set, then use it hard coded,
> >>
> >>Yes, better.
> >>Very well.
> > 
> > 
> > In the patch I have based on the BSD patch, it uses
> > the required_hits in the system global setting, normally in 
> > /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf and can be overriden by
> > a users .spamassassin/users_pref file. So there is no
> > need for an --enable-spam-threshold option. Spamassassin
> > adds a header X-Spam-Flag: YES if the email goes over
> > the required_hit count. 
> > 
> > I'm going to try and add the code to the cvs version over the
> > weekend. 
> > 
> > Ken Jones
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> The BSD code had a hard set limit, with the --enable-spam-threshold=15, 
> which means that anything over 15 would get DELETED, and not just 
> tagged, which is what SA does normally.

does normally?  SA is only used for tagging mail.  You can send me a
GTUBE email and it won't get deleted, even with a score of 1000.

> See, i like to have anything over 4 points tagged, then if for some 
> reason, it is really spam, it will reach the 10 points i set with the 
> enable flag, and vldelivermail will delete it instead of writing it to 
> disk. Its one way i have kept my mail box clean of a lot of crud, as 
> really, i dont want it to be saved if it is just spam.

yea, I like that sort of dual threshold setup as well.  Perhaps
spamassassin could be made to have dual thresholds and have like a
X-REALLY-SPAM: header.  I prefer not trying to compare values, but check
for 'flags' personally.

-Jeremy

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Re: [vchkpw] Spamassassin: i wish..

2004-03-12 Thread X-Istence
Ken Jones wrote:
On Friday 12 March 2004 6:35 am, Cristiano Deana wrote:

Il giorno Friday 12 March 2004 12:53, X-Istence mi scriveva:

Now spam threshold is hardcoded with --enable-spam-threshold=15
shouldn't be better to put it in vlimits.default?
I think this should be made an option, if it is not set, look for
vlimits.default, if it is set, then use it hard coded,
Yes, better.
Very well.


In the patch I have based on the BSD patch, it uses
the required_hits in the system global setting, normally in 
/etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf and can be overriden by
a users .spamassassin/users_pref file. So there is no
need for an --enable-spam-threshold option. Spamassassin
adds a header X-Spam-Flag: YES if the email goes over
the required_hit count. 

I'm going to try and add the code to the cvs version over the
weekend. 

Ken Jones





The BSD code had a hard set limit, with the --enable-spam-threshold=15, 
which means that anything over 15 would get DELETED, and not just 
tagged, which is what SA does normally.

See, i like to have anything over 4 points tagged, then if for some 
reason, it is really spam, it will reach the 10 points i set with the 
enable flag, and vldelivermail will delete it instead of writing it to 
disk. Its one way i have kept my mail box clean of a lot of crud, as 
really, i dont want it to be saved if it is just spam.

X-Istence


Re: [vchkpw] Spamassassin: i wish..

2004-03-12 Thread Jeremy Kitchen
On Fri, 2004-03-12 at 13:01, Shouguan Lin wrote:
> Is it possible not to hard code the header?

> CRM114 just like SA can add a header like "X-CRM114-Status: SPAM" for
> identified spam emails.  If the header is not hard coded, then vpopmail can
> work with both SA and CRM114 or other spam filters.

then this would more likely be a system-wide difference in header. 
Perhaps being able to set this in config.h or similar would be handy.

Unless individual users can change their header setting, then I'm not
sure how one would do it, without parsing the spamassassin config file,
which would be horribly time consuming and prone to bugs.

-Jeremy

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Re: [vchkpw] Spamassassin: i wish..

2004-03-12 Thread Shouguan Lin
Is it possible not to hard code the header?

CRM114 just like SA can add a header like "X-CRM114-Status: SPAM" for
identified spam emails.  If the header is not hard coded, then vpopmail can
work with both SA and CRM114 or other spam filters.

Thanks,

Shouguan Lin

- Original Message - 
From: "Ken Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 8:26 AM
Subject: Re: [vchkpw] Spamassassin: i wish..


> On Friday 12 March 2004 6:35 am, Cristiano Deana wrote:
> > Il giorno Friday 12 March 2004 12:53, X-Istence mi scriveva:
> > > > Now spam threshold is hardcoded with --enable-spam-threshold=15
> > > > shouldn't be better to put it in vlimits.default?
> > >
> > > I think this should be made an option, if it is not set, look for
> > > vlimits.default, if it is set, then use it hard coded,
> >
> > Yes, better.
> > Very well.
>
> In the patch I have based on the BSD patch, it uses
> the required_hits in the system global setting, normally in
> /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf and can be overriden by
> a users .spamassassin/users_pref file. So there is no
> need for an --enable-spam-threshold option. Spamassassin
> adds a header X-Spam-Flag: YES if the email goes over
> the required_hit count.
>
> I'm going to try and add the code to the cvs version over the
> weekend.
>
> Ken Jones
>
>



Re: [vchkpw] Spamassassin: i wish..

2004-03-12 Thread Ken Jones
On Friday 12 March 2004 6:35 am, Cristiano Deana wrote:
> Il giorno Friday 12 March 2004 12:53, X-Istence mi scriveva:
> > > Now spam threshold is hardcoded with --enable-spam-threshold=15
> > > shouldn't be better to put it in vlimits.default?
> >
> > I think this should be made an option, if it is not set, look for
> > vlimits.default, if it is set, then use it hard coded,
>
> Yes, better.
> Very well.

In the patch I have based on the BSD patch, it uses
the required_hits in the system global setting, normally in 
/etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf and can be overriden by
a users .spamassassin/users_pref file. So there is no
need for an --enable-spam-threshold option. Spamassassin
adds a header X-Spam-Flag: YES if the email goes over
the required_hit count. 

I'm going to try and add the code to the cvs version over the
weekend. 

Ken Jones



Re: [vchkpw] Spamassassin: i wish..

2004-03-12 Thread Cristiano Deana
Il giorno Friday 12 March 2004 12:53, X-Istence mi scriveva:

> > Now spam threshold is hardcoded with --enable-spam-threshold=15
> > shouldn't be better to put it in vlimits.default?

> I think this should be made an option, if it is not set, look for
> vlimits.default, if it is set, then use it hard coded,

Yes, better. 
Very well.


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Re: [vchkpw] Spamassassin: i wish..

2004-03-12 Thread X-Istence
Cristiano Deana wrote:
Now spam threshold is hardcoded with --enable-spam-threshold=15
shouldn't be better to put it in vlimits.default?

I think this should be made an option, if it is not set, look for 
vlimits.default, if it is set, then use it hard coded, i prefer that as 
i dont want vdelivermail to open files each time it runs, which can be a 
lot of times, as i get a lot of mail, id rather have it hard coded.

X-Istence


[vchkpw] Spamassassin: i wish..

2004-03-12 Thread Cristiano Deana
Now spam threshold is hardcoded with --enable-spam-threshold=15
shouldn't be better to put it in vlimits.default?


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