Re: [vchkpw] VpopMail upgrade
I figured out my problem. Thanks anyways! If anybody wants to know what I did, let me know. It's a hassle to explain it for no reason. Thanks, Austin Jorden - Original Message - From: "Ed McLain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 7:59 PM Subject: RE: [vchkpw] VpopMail upgrade > What backend is vpopmail using for it's storage (cdb/mysql/ldap)? That > will determine what steps need to be taken. In most cases however, > moving from one server to another is a fairly painless job as long as > you get your bases covered and there should be no loss in emails or > accounts when doing the upgrade. For me personally I've moved my > current user base across 4 different servers with only a blip of an > outage while transferring over the current email store and changing the > ip of the new and old boxes. > > On Thu, 2006-06-29 at 12:00 -0500, Austin Jorden wrote: > > Oh I'm sorry, it's still 1.03 that's installed. > > > > Thanks, > > Austin Jorden > > (972) 284-4909 > > Digitalpath of Texas > > http://www.dptexas.net/ > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Remo Mattei [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 11:54 AM > > To: vchkpw@inter7.com > > Subject: Re: [vchkpw] VpopMail upgrade > > > > > > > > Austin Jorden wrote: > > > > > > I have an older machine that has over 450 email accounts. > > > > > > It has: > > > > > > Vpopmail 4.9.8 > > > > > > QMail 1.03 > > > > > > No IMAP installed. > > > > > > I need to transfer all this stuff over to a new updated server that has: > > > > > > Vpopmail 5.4.13 > > > > > > QMail 2.2.1 > > > > > Are you sure you have qmail 2.2.1? > > > > > > QmailAd 1.2.9 > > > > > > VQadmin > > > > > > Squirrel Mail > > > > > > However I don't know how-to do this. I do not know the older server's > > > postmaster password. I can change it by using vQadmin; however I can't > > > install it because vpopmail is not up2date. My plan is this: > > > > > > 1.) Update vpopmail > > > > > > 2.) Install vQadmin > > > > > > 3.) Get/change postmaster password > > > > > > Will I loose emails / domains / accounts if I update Vpopmail? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Austin Jorden > > > > > > (972) 284-4909 > > > > > > Digitalpath of Texas > > > > > > http://www.dptexas.net/ > > > > > > -- > Thanks, > Ed McLain > Sr. Colocation Engineer > TekLinks / High Speed Solutions > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 205.314.6600 > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.6/378 - Release Date: 6/28/2006 > >
RE: [vchkpw] VpopMail upgrade
What backend is vpopmail using for it's storage (cdb/mysql/ldap)? That will determine what steps need to be taken. In most cases however, moving from one server to another is a fairly painless job as long as you get your bases covered and there should be no loss in emails or accounts when doing the upgrade. For me personally I've moved my current user base across 4 different servers with only a blip of an outage while transferring over the current email store and changing the ip of the new and old boxes. On Thu, 2006-06-29 at 12:00 -0500, Austin Jorden wrote: > Oh I'm sorry, it's still 1.03 that's installed. > > Thanks, > Austin Jorden > (972) 284-4909 > Digitalpath of Texas > http://www.dptexas.net/ > > > -Original Message- > From: Remo Mattei [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 11:54 AM > To: vchkpw@inter7.com > Subject: Re: [vchkpw] VpopMail upgrade > > > > Austin Jorden wrote: > > > > I have an older machine that has over 450 email accounts. > > > > It has: > > > > Vpopmail 4.9.8 > > > > QMail 1.03 > > > > No IMAP installed. > > > > I need to transfer all this stuff over to a new updated server that has: > > > > Vpopmail 5.4.13 > > > > QMail 2.2.1 > > > Are you sure you have qmail 2.2.1? > > > > QmailAd 1.2.9 > > > > VQadmin > > > > Squirrel Mail > > > > However I don't know how-to do this. I do not know the older server's > > postmaster password. I can change it by using vQadmin; however I can't > > install it because vpopmail is not up2date. My plan is this: > > > > 1.) Update vpopmail > > > > 2.) Install vQadmin > > > > 3.) Get/change postmaster password > > > > Will I loose emails / domains / accounts if I update Vpopmail? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Austin Jorden > > > > (972) 284-4909 > > > > Digitalpath of Texas > > > > http://www.dptexas.net/ > > > -- Thanks, Ed McLain Sr. Colocation Engineer TekLinks / High Speed Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED] 205.314.6600
RE: [vchkpw] VpopMail upgrade
Oh I'm sorry, it's still 1.03 that's installed. Thanks, Austin Jorden (972) 284-4909 Digitalpath of Texas http://www.dptexas.net/ -Original Message- From: Remo Mattei [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 11:54 AM To: vchkpw@inter7.com Subject: Re: [vchkpw] VpopMail upgrade Austin Jorden wrote: > > I have an older machine that has over 450 email accounts. > > It has: > > Vpopmail 4.9.8 > > QMail 1.03 > > No IMAP installed. > > I need to transfer all this stuff over to a new updated server that has: > > Vpopmail 5.4.13 > > QMail 2.2.1 > Are you sure you have qmail 2.2.1? > > QmailAd 1.2.9 > > VQadmin > > Squirrel Mail > > However I don't know how-to do this. I do not know the older server's > postmaster password. I can change it by using vQadmin; however I can't > install it because vpopmail is not up2date. My plan is this: > > 1.) Update vpopmail > > 2.) Install vQadmin > > 3.) Get/change postmaster password > > Will I loose emails / domains / accounts if I update Vpopmail? > > Thanks, > > Austin Jorden > > (972) 284-4909 > > Digitalpath of Texas > > http://www.dptexas.net/ > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: [vchkpw] VpopMail upgrade
Austin Jorden wrote: > > I have an older machine that has over 450 email accounts. > > It has: > > Vpopmail 4.9.8 > > QMail 1.03 > > No IMAP installed. > > I need to transfer all this stuff over to a new updated server that has: > > Vpopmail 5.4.13 > > QMail 2.2.1 > Are you sure you have qmail 2.2.1? > > QmailAd 1.2.9 > > VQadmin > > Squirrel Mail > > However I don’t know how-to do this. I do not know the older server’s > postmaster password. I can change it by using vQadmin; however I can’t > install it because vpopmail is not up2date. My plan is this: > > 1.) Update vpopmail > > 2.) Install vQadmin > > 3.) Get/change postmaster password > > Will I loose emails / domains / accounts if I update Vpopmail? > > Thanks, > > Austin Jorden > > (972) 284-4909 > > Digitalpath of Texas > > http://www.dptexas.net/ >
[vchkpw] VpopMail upgrade
I have an older machine that has over 450 email accounts. It has: Vpopmail 4.9.8 QMail 1.03 No IMAP installed. I need to transfer all this stuff over to a new updated server that has: Vpopmail 5.4.13 QMail 2.2.1 QmailAd 1.2.9 VQadmin Squirrel Mail However I don’t know how-to do this. I do not know the older server’s postmaster password. I can change it by using vQadmin; however I can’t install it because vpopmail is not up2date. My plan is this: 1.) Update vpopmail 2.) Install vQadmin 3.) Get/change postmaster password Will I loose emails / domains / accounts if I update Vpopmail? Thanks, Austin Jorden (972) 284-4909 Digitalpath of Texas http://www.dptexas.net/ smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: [vchkpw] vpopmail upgrade ==> qmail recompile needed ?
On 2005-10-28, at 1328, Jeremy Kitchen wrote: On Thursday 27 October 2005 10:57 pm, John Simpson wrote: On 2005-10-26, at 1949, Rick Macdougall wrote: Domain Quotas are not going to happen anytime soon I think, the over head of calculating the quota for a domain of 20K users is just too much. If you really need domain quotas, use a separate user for each domain and use system quotas. Of course you will then have to run qmail-smtpd as root. or make the "vchkpw" binary setuid root, and let qmail-smtpd run as qmaild (as it was designed.) but that will break chkuser. thinking about how chkuser works, that makes sense. i didn't think about that because i don't use chkuser. i've looked at chkuser twice (once over a year ago, and once again a few months ago) and i'm not comfortable with having qmail tied that closely into vpopmail. that's why i wrote the validrcptto.cdb patch, to reject messages which are addressed to non-existent recipients, without tying qmail to any one technology (such as vpopmail, or courier-authlib.) any system which allows you to generate a list of valid addresses can be used to build a cdb file, and my web site has a perl script which does this for system and vpopmail accounts. the weakness of my patch is that it relies on a cdb file which must be rebuilt whenever the underlying data changes (i.e. mailboxes or domains added or deleted.) however, because it uses a cdb file, the recipient checks are done VERY quickly, without having to fork/exec any other processes, and the cdb file can be copied out to internet- facing "pre-filtering" servers which otherwise would not have any way to check recipients. as i've said before, the various "recipient check" patches each have their own strengths and weaknesses... i will admit to being slightly biased towards mine, but i don't think any more or less of anybody for choosing one of the others. i figure anybody smart enough to apply a patch will also be smart enought to choose one based on their own needs and the particulars of each patch. as a separate issue, i'm also not comfortable with the idea of running internet-accessible services as root. i did my time running sendmail and bind, back before i was introduced to qmail and djbdns, and i still have flashbacks to evenings spent rebuilding mail and DNS servers because some joker in germany had nothing better to do with his time than trash my server. -- | John M. Simpson - KG4ZOW - Programmer At Large | | http://www.jms1.net/ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | -- | Mac OS X proves that it's easier to make UNIX | | pretty than it is to make Windows secure. | -- PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [vchkpw] vpopmail upgrade ==> qmail recompile needed ?
On Thursday 27 October 2005 10:57 pm, John Simpson wrote: > On 2005-10-26, at 1949, Rick Macdougall wrote: > > Domain Quotas are not going to happen anytime soon I think, the > > over head of calculating the quota for a domain of 20K users is > > just too much. If you really need domain quotas, use a separate > > user for each domain and use system quotas. Of course you will > > then have to run qmail-smtpd as root. > > or make the "vchkpw" binary setuid root, and let qmail-smtpd run as > qmaild (as it was designed.) but that will break chkuser. -Jeremy -- Jeremy Kitchen ++ [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the beginning was The Word and The Word was Content-type: text/plain -- The Word of Bob. pgpph2zOv857t.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [vchkpw] vpopmail upgrade ==> qmail recompile needed ?
On 2005-10-26, at 1949, Rick Macdougall wrote: Domain Quotas are not going to happen anytime soon I think, the over head of calculating the quota for a domain of 20K users is just too much. If you really need domain quotas, use a separate user for each domain and use system quotas. Of course you will then have to run qmail-smtpd as root. or make the "vchkpw" binary setuid root, and let qmail-smtpd run as qmaild (as it was designed.) -- | John M. Simpson - KG4ZOW - Programmer At Large | | http://www.jms1.net/ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | -- | Mac OS X proves that it's easier to make UNIX | | pretty than it is to make Windows secure. | -- PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [vchkpw] vpopmail upgrade ==> qmail recompile needed ?
On 2005-10-26, at 1902, Szeki - Inc wrote: If I upgrade vpopmail from an earlier version (say from the same mainline eg from 5.4.10 to 5.4.13), than I have to recompile qmail - it is using Bill Shupp's 0.8 patch - if it is using chkuser ? considering that the "chkuser" patch relies on vpopmail, yes. What other programs is requiring recocmpilation if there is version change. (courier imap ? courier authdaemon ?) anything else that uses vpopmail's code. if you're using courier-imap 4.x, you won't need to recompile it but you will need to recompile the courier-authlib package. -- | John M. Simpson - KG4ZOW - Programmer At Large | | http://www.jms1.net/ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | -- | Mac OS X proves that it's easier to make UNIX | | pretty than it is to make Windows secure. | -- PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [vchkpw] vpopmail upgrade ==> qmail recompile needed ?
Szeki - Inc wrote: If I upgrade vpopmail from an earlier version (say from the same mainline eg from 5.4.10 to 5.4.13), than I have to recompile qmail - it is using Bill Shupp's 0.8 patch - if it is using chkuser ? What other programs is requiring recocmpilation if there is version change. (courier imap ? courier authdaemon ?) Whati is the current status of domain quotas ? Still unusuable ? (or There is light at the end of the tunnel ?) Regards, Peter Hi, courier, qmail-admin, netqmail, anything else that uses libvpopmail (that's about it I think) Domain Quotas are not going to happen anytime soon I think, the over head of calculating the quota for a domain of 20K users is just too much. If you really need domain quotas, use a separate user for each domain and use system quotas. Of course you will then have to run qmail-smtpd as root. That's what we do here for those domains that need it. Regards, Rick
[vchkpw] vpopmail upgrade ==> qmail recompile needed ?
If I upgrade vpopmail from an earlier version (say from the same mainline eg from 5.4.10 to 5.4.13), than I have to recompile qmail - it is using Bill Shupp's 0.8 patch - if it is using chkuser ? What other programs is requiring recocmpilation if there is version change. (courier imap ? courier authdaemon ?) Whati is the current status of domain quotas ? Still unusuable ? (or There is light at the end of the tunnel ?) Regards, Peter
Re: [vchkpw] Vpopmail upgrade?
On Friday, November 21, 2003, at 03:59 PM, Vitaliy Sholokhov wrote: a minor bug, perhaps, I've just upgraded vpopmail from 5.2.1 to 5.2.2, but when I login to qmailadmin or vqadmin I still get "vpopmail 5.2.1" displayed as if that is current version that is being used. It is the version being used until you recompile qmailadmin and vqadmin. Any time you rebuild/compile/install vpopmail, you should recompile/install qmailadmin, vqadmin, courier-imap, qmail-smtpd (if you're using the chkusr patch) and any other program that statically links libvpopmail. Otherwise, those programs will use the code from the older version of vpopmail. -- Tom Collins - [EMAIL PROTECTED] QmailAdmin: http://qmailadmin.sf.net/ Vpopmail: http://vpopmail.sf.net/ Info on the Sniffter hand-held Network Tester: http://sniffter.com/
[vchkpw] Vpopmail upgrade?
Hello, guys a minor bug, perhaps, I've just upgraded vpopmail from 5.2.1 to 5.2.2, but when I login to qmailadmin or vqadmin I still get "vpopmail 5.2.1" displayed as if that is current version that is being used. --
