Re: [VFB] hook swap
count me in Rick. Peggy On 1/2/2012 5:31 PM, Rick Zieger wrote: Choose a hook style from the hooks at Hagensfish.com. Dai-Riki I think. Hooks are from $55 to $65/thousand. Add 10% for excise tax and $5.00 for postage. I will divinded the hooks up by weight on a scale at the chemistry deparmten tof the local University. You will get equal numbers of hooks in several sytles and sizes. Rick *From:* haerb...@comcast.net haerb...@comcast.net *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Monday, January 2, 2012 3:46 PM *Subject:* Re: [VFB] hook swap what is this hook swap? BobH *From: *Eric Worm flytyer...@yahoo.com *To: *vfb-mail@googlegroups.com *Sent: *Monday, January 2, 2012 4:27:56 PM *Subject: *Re: [VFB] hook swap Definately interested! *Eric Worm* *Reed City, MI 49677* ** *And when it all goes well, when your dog does the difficult and does it with style, what you get isn't a bagged bird but the honor of sharing a moment of penultimate drama starring the dog you love and the bird you love. That is a taste of heaven, friends, and it's why the dog man hunts. And frankly, most of us kick through one hell of a lot of weeds between glimpses of Heaven. -Steve Grooms* -- Peggy Brenner http://pbandj.us/SixSistersFlybox/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
[VFB] Hagensfish hooks
Hi Rick: I'm not sure how this works without knowing the choice of other participants otherwise there is the possibility of duplication of popular style and size. Does each participant receive 1000 hooks? Are the hooks genuine Dai-riki (not to be confused with Daiichi) or a chinese knock-off? The hook number system appears similar to Dai-Riki's. I looked at the hopper style but they are $70.44 per 1000. When Dai-Riki first came out (Dan Baileys) they were made in Japan, then later in Korea, now Mustad hooks are now made in China and Mustad have been hemorrhaging big $ and have just been taken over by another Norwegian company or financial group. Although I still use certain Mustad and Partridge hooks (made in the same Chinese Mustad owned chinese factory) I must admit that I don't have the same confidence that I have with a japanese hook. Maybe it is because the Japanese made such good swords and their steel is excellent. Neville (Nev) Gosling On 2012-01-02, at 2:31 PM, Rick Zieger wrote: Choose a hook style from the hooks at Hagensfish.com. Dai-Riki I think. Hooks are from $55 to $65/thousand. Add 10% for excise tax and $5.00 for postage. I will divinded the hooks up by weight on a scale at the chemistry deparmten tof the local University. You will get equal numbers of hooks in several sytles and sizes. Rick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Hagensfish hooks
Everyone ends up with 1000. Give or take a cou0ple as they are weighed and not counted. Do it ona chemistry lab scale. Weighs iun grmass andgo out to 3 decimal places. Rick From: Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.ca To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2012 7:16 AM Subject: [VFB] Hagensfish hooks Hi Rick: I'm not sure how this works without knowing the choice of other participants otherwise there is the possibility of duplication of popular style and size. Does each participant receive 1000 hooks? Are the hooks genuine Dai-riki (not to be confused with Daiichi) or a chinese knock-off? The hook number system appears similar to Dai-Riki's. I looked at the hopper style but they are $70.44 per 1000. When Dai-Riki first came out (Dan Baileys) they were made in Japan, then later in Korea, now Mustad hooks are now made in China and Mustad have been hemorrhaging big $ and have just been taken over by another Norwegian company or financial group. Although I still use certain Mustad and Partridge hooks (made in the same Chinese Mustad owned chinese factory) I must admit that I don't have the same confidence that I have with a japanese hook. Maybe it is because the Japanese made such good swords and their steel is excellent. Neville (Nev) Gosling On 2012-01-02, at 2:31 PM, Rick Zieger wrote: Choose a hook style from the hooks at Hagensfish.com. Dai-Riki I think. Hooks are from $55 to $65/thousand. Add 10% for excise tax and $5.00 for postage. I will divinded the hooks up by weight on a scale at the chemistry deparmten tof the local University. You will get equal numbers of hooks in several sytles and sizes. Rick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Hagensfish hooks
I am curious as to where various hooks are manufactured now? Any hook experts out there? Tiemco- Still Japan? Ties with Umpqua Feather Merchants. Mustad- All operations now in China Daiichi- Still Japan? DaiRiki- Japan? Korea? Partridge- England, but now? Eagle Claw- USA? Eric Worm Reed City, MI 49677 And when it all goes well, when your dog does the difficult and does it with style, what you get isn't a bagged bird but the honor of sharing a moment of penultimate drama starring the dog you love and the bird you love. That is a taste of heaven, friends, and it's why the dog man hunts. And frankly, most of us kick through one hell of a lot of weeds between glimpses of Heaven. -Steve Grooms From: Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.ca To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, January 3, 2012 8:16:25 AM Subject: [VFB] Hagensfish hooks Hi Rick: I'm not sure how this works without knowing the choice of other participants otherwise there is the possibility of duplication of popular style and size. Does each participant receive 1000 hooks? Are the hooks genuine Dai-riki (not to be confused with Daiichi) or a chinese knock-off? The hook number system appears similar to Dai-Riki's. I looked at the hopper style but they are $70.44 per 1000. When Dai-Riki first came out (Dan Baileys) they were made in Japan, then later in Korea, now Mustad hooks are now made in China and Mustad have been hemorrhaging big $ and have just been taken over by another Norwegian company or financial group. Although I still use certain Mustad and Partridge hooks (made in the same Chinese Mustad owned chinese factory) I must admit that I don't have the same confidence that I have with a japanese hook. Maybe it is because the Japanese made such good swords and their steel is excellent. Neville (Nev) Gosling On 2012-01-02, at 2:31 PM, Rick Zieger wrote: Choose a hook style from the hooks at Hagensfish.com. Dai-Riki I think. Hooks are from $55 to $65/thousand. Add 10% for excise tax and $5.00 for postage. I will divinded the hooks up by weight on a scale at the chemistry deparmten tof the local University. You will get equal numbers of hooks in several sytles and sizes. Rick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Hagensfish hooks- standards
Maybe someone who was in the last hook swap can tell us what the quality of the Hangensfish hooks were like??? Not only 'where' is important, but 'how' and of 'what' steel? There are wire hooks and forged hooks, and the stock , metalurgy, and batching processes need to be controlled and consistent. What is the QC program? We know the Chinese lack in this regard. How well controlled is the wire selection and manufactiring processes? A Chinese-made hook with German steel and controlled Japanese processes might be a good hook, regardless of make nowadays. There are the different properties of the hook, also- the point, the barb, the shape, eye, finish, etc. I've gotten a lot of name-brand hooks with crushed or un-bent eyes and mal-formed points or barbs. I got an untempered Mustad hook one time that I twisted and absurd amount and it never broke. I've gotten bronzed hooks that rust, too. How good is the plating on the saltwater hooks, and the quality of the stainless steel hooks for big-game flies? DonO - Original Message - From: Eric Worm To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 7:31 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] Hagensfish hooks I am curious as to where various hooks are manufactured now? Any hook experts out there? Tiemco- Still Japan? Ties with Umpqua Feather Merchants. Mustad- All operations now in China Daiichi- Still Japan? DaiRiki- Japan? Korea? Partridge- England, but now? Eagle Claw- USA? Eric Worm Reed City, MI 49677 And when it all goes well, when your dog does the difficult and does it with style, what you get isn't a bagged bird but the honor of sharing a moment of penultimate drama starring the dog you love and the bird you love. That is a taste of heaven, friends, and it's why the dog man hunts. And frankly, most of us kick through one hell of a lot of weeds between glimpses of Heaven. -Steve Grooms -- From: Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.ca To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, January 3, 2012 8:16:25 AM Subject: [VFB] Hagensfish hooks Hi Rick: I'm not sure how this works without knowing the choice of other participants otherwise there is the possibility of duplication of popular style and size. Does each participant receive 1000 hooks? Are the hooks genuine Dai-riki (not to be confused with Daiichi) or a chinese knock-off? The hook number system appears similar to Dai-Riki's. I looked at the hopper style but they are $70.44 per 1000. When Dai-Riki first came out (Dan Baileys) they were made in Japan, then later in Korea, now Mustad hooks are now made in China and Mustad have been hemorrhaging big $ and have just been taken over by another Norwegian company or financial group. Although I still use certain Mustad and Partridge hooks (made in the same Chinese Mustad owned chinese factory) I must admit that I don't have the same confidence that I have with a japanese hook. Maybe it is because the Japanese made such good swords and their steel is excellent. Neville (Nev) Gosling On 2012-01-02, at 2:31 PM, Rick Zieger wrote: Choose a hook style from the hooks at Hagensfish.com. Dai-Riki I think. Hooks are from $55 to $65/thousand. Add 10% for excise tax and $5.00 for postage. I will divinded the hooks up by weight on a scale at the chemistry deparmten tof the local University. You will get equal numbers of hooks in several sytles and sizes. Rick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Streamers 365!! - Dedicated to classic featherwing streamers
Thanks Don and Walter. There are a few VFB folks in the project as well. Day 3's fly just went up, an original offering from Al Grombacher. Thanks for checking things out. Darren On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 7:37 PM, Walter wshock...@ohio-kayak-fishing.comwrote: What a great site, I’ve been wading around for the last hour through all the wonderful pages and information. ** ** Walter ** ** *From:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Don Ordes *Sent:* Monday, January 02, 2012 4:00 PM *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [VFB] Streamers 365!! - Dedicated to classic featherwing streamers ** ** Just a notice to all VFBers. Darren MacEachern's (aka 'Pacres' ) *Streamers 365* site - *is now on line!* See the site for a description of all the neat stuff that will be coming.* *** I've been waiting all year for it, and it's been worth the wait. http://streamers365.com/ DonO -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- http://dailyflytyer.com - The Daily Fly Tyer http://streamers365.com - Streamers 365 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
[VFB] hook manufacturers
As I understand it, there are 3 major hook manufacturers in Japan - Daiichi, Gamakatsu, Hayabusa and they also manufacture hooks for brands such as Tiemco. Mustad are all made in China. To my surprise, Mustad have been losing money and have recently been taken over. Dai-Riki started by being manufactured in Japan and then Korea. The last batch that I purchased from Line's End were made in Korea, but the manufacturing could have moved since then. Partridge were taken over several years ago by Mustad and then about 2-3 years ago were sold back to a company in England called Fishing Matters if I remember correctly. For a period of time Mustad hooks and Partridge were made in Singapore until Mustad opened it's own manufacturing facility in China where both Mustad and Partridge production moved to. To the best of my knowledge, Partridge hooks are still made in China by Mustad. Eagle Claw are still made in USA as far as I know. In Europe, there is a popular brand called Kamasan. These hooks were originally made in Japan by Hayabusa, but then changed to another manufacturer and then again. It would not surprise me if they are now made in China. This has resulted in less confidence by some former users who have switched to another brand. In my opinion, one of the very best hooks are those made by Hayabusa, but I have to import them from the UK where they are also sold as Fulling Mill as Scorpion hooks. Then there is Grip hooks by Scientific Fly located in South Africa. I don't know if these hooks are actually manufactured by Scientific Fly in South Africa or whether the hooks are manufactured elsewhere according to Sccientific Fly specifications. There are two or three smaller hook manufacturers in the Czech Republic the best known of which is Knapek. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater vancouver BC On 2012-01-03, at 6:31 AM, Eric Worm wrote: I am curious as to where various hooks are manufactured now? Any hook experts out there? Tiemco- Still Japan? Ties with Umpqua Feather Merchants. Mustad- All operations now in China Daiichi- Still Japan? DaiRiki- Japan? Korea? Partridge- England, but now? Eagle Claw- USA? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] hook manufacturers
Add Maruto Hooks, Japan, a 100-year old fishing hook manufacturer. They have more market presence in Europe, but there are sources in the USA via eBay. A friend and I have been buying and testing this brand, and it is high quality, with eBay prices much lower than the more known hook brands. Wes Wada Bend, Oregon On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.cawrote: As I understand it, there are 3 major hook manufacturers in Japan - Daiichi, Gamakatsu, Hayabusa and they also manufacture hooks for brands such as Tiemco. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] hook manufacturers
Wes: Maruto is one of the name brand/style of hooks manufactured and marketed by Dohitomi Co., Ltd. Japan. This is what makes it so confusing. Which is the actual manufacturer and which is the brand? I have not tried them yet although they are available in Europe. Where can I get some? Neville (Nev) Gosling On 2012-01-03, at 11:05 AM, Wes Wada wrote: Maruto Hooks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] hook manufacturers
On 1/3/2012 1:05 PM, Wes Wada wrote: Add Maruto Hooks, Japan, a 100-year old fishing hook manufacturer. They have more market presence in Europe, but there are sources in the USA via eBay. A friend and I have been buying and testing this brand, and it is high quality, with eBay prices much lower than the more known hook brands. *Found something new to me Saber Fly Hooks. They are on ebay and eveen have a comparison chart available as a pdf. * *Anybody know if they are any good? RodgerOle* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] hook manufacturers
Try this Neville: _*http://www.flyshack.com/ *_I landed on them thru Ebay, but they evidently are a regular fly shop. Rodger On 1/3/2012 1:38 PM, Neville Gosling wrote: Would not show when I searched on e-bay using Saber Fly Hooks for the search. I suspect that someone is marketing an Asian (probably Chinese) manufactured hook and calling them Saber. There are so many like this such as Talon On 2012-01-03, at 11:32 AM, Rodger Oleson wrote: *Saber Fly Hooks* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
[VFB] Dai-Rki hook breakage
I came across this when searching the country of manufacture - http://rockymtnfly.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2443 I have not experience the same problem. Neville (Nev) Gosling -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
[VFB] hooks
Saber Hooks are available at The Flyshack http://www.flyshack.com. I and most of my tying partners are using them now. Good quality, good pricing and the flyshack has been great to deal with. Henry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Dai-Rki hook breakage
I have had many many Mustad hooks break at the barb. I have a draw full of flies with broken Mustad hooks. Quit using them about 15 years ago. Tony From: Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.ca To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2012 2:38 PM Subject: [VFB] Dai-Rki hook breakage I came across this when searching the country of manufacture - http://rockymtnfly.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2443 I have not experience the same problem. Neville (Nev) Gosling -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Dai-Rki hook breakage
I have had many many Mustad hooks break at the barb. Interesting. Maybe I'm not clamping my hooks tightly enough in the vise, because I can't ever remember breaking a hook in the vise, other some 28's. And nearly all of my hooks are Mustad. Allan -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Dai-Rki hook breakage
Allan, They were not breaking in the vise. The barbs were flattened before the flies were tyed. The hooks broke while catching fish. It was discouraging to cast for a half hour and missing fish before finding the point of the hook was gone. When you come over for Sowbug, I will show you the draw I have the flies in with broken hooks. Tony From: Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2012 3:33 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Dai-Rki hook breakage I have had many many Mustad hooks break at the barb. Interesting. Maybe I'm not clamping my hooks tightly enough in the vise, because I can't ever remember breaking a hook in the vise, other some 28's. And nearly all of my hooks are Mustad. Allan -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Dai-Rki hook breakage
Tony, That's what you get for catching 20lb. trout on size 14 Chili-peppers... DonO - Original Message - From: Anthony Spezio To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 2:47 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Dai-Rki hook breakage Allan, They were not breaking in the vise. The barbs were flattened before the flies were tyed. The hooks broke while catching fish. It was discouraging to cast for a half hour and missing fish before finding the point of the hook was gone. When you come over for Sowbug, I will show you the draw I have the flies in with broken hooks. Tony From: Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2012 3:33 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Dai-Rki hook breakage I have had many many Mustad hooks break at the barb. Interesting. Maybe I'm not clamping my hooks tightly enough in the vise, because I can't ever remember breaking a hook in the vise, other some 28's. And nearly all of my hooks are Mustad. Allan -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Dai-Rki hook breakage
That is what was happening Flattening the barbs I believe fractured the point. Tony From: Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2012 3:59 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Dai-Rki hook breakage Strong grooved jaws cinched tightly on a ill-placed brittle hook = breakage. - Original Message - From: Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 2:33 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Dai-Rki hook breakage I have had many many Mustad hooks break at the barb. Interesting. Maybe I'm not clamping my hooks tightly enough in the vise, because I can't ever remember breaking a hook in the vise, other some 28's. And nearly all of my hooks are Mustad. Allan -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
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