[VFB] Re: Left hand reel

2009-04-07 Thread DonO 

Jack,
Off  Texas, it could have been a big jack, redfish, or a black drum.  And of
these could spool you with only 300 yds of backing.

DonO

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One time - fishing with the guide's 12 weight which had about 300 yards
of backing and was set up for right hand retrieve. 20 lb tippet and the
drag was cranked down fairly heavy. We were in the Port Isabel channel,
South Padre Island Texas when I hooked something BIG. It looked like the
bow wave from a torpedo heading straight offshore. I just stood there in
awe of the power of this fish while it stripped off about 200 yards of
backing with the rod bend almost to the handle. The guide 'suggested' I
add some more drag to the fish. Since I'm used to reeling with my left
and casting right, I wasted a couple of seconds realizing I had to
switch hands. By the time I was I was ready and palming the reel, I
could see the spool arbor. I tightened down on it, felt the fish turn,
shake it's head once, and was gone. Total time less than 30 seconds. We
had seen some huge tarpon, but I think not. No fin so not a shark, we're
still guessing what it was. big jack, ling or something like that

Jack
Austin


J Balmer wrote:
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> Did you ever fight a „real“ fish with your left hand as right hander
> or vice versa ? – I mean really big fish.
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[VFB] Re: Left hand reel

2009-04-06 Thread Jack Lehman 

One time - fishing with the guide's 12 weight which had about 300 yards 
of backing and was set up for right hand retrieve. 20 lb tippet and the 
drag was cranked down fairly heavy. We were in the Port Isabel channel, 
South Padre Island Texas when I hooked something BIG. It looked like the 
bow wave from a torpedo heading straight offshore. I just stood there in 
awe of the power of this fish while it stripped off about 200 yards of 
backing with the rod bend almost to the handle. The guide 'suggested' I 
add some more drag to the fish. Since I'm used to reeling with my left 
and casting right, I wasted a couple of seconds realizing I had to 
switch hands. By the time I was I was ready and palming the reel, I 
could see the spool arbor. I tightened down on it, felt the fish turn, 
shake it's head once, and was gone. Total time less than 30 seconds. We 
had seen some huge tarpon, but I think not. No fin so not a shark, we're 
still guessing what it was. big jack, ling or something like that

Jack
Austin


J Balmer wrote:
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>
> Did you ever fight a „real“ fish with your left hand as right hander 
> or vice versa ? – I mean really big fish.
>
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[VFB] Re: Left hand reel

2009-04-06 Thread DonO 
Tom, "really big fish" in the flyfishing realm is mostly relevant to the weight 
set-up you are using.

I have a 5wt for most fresh and salt water fish under 10lbs. (not counting the 
bamboo rods)
I have an 8/9 wt for fish up to 20 lbs.
I have a 10wt for fish up to 50 lbs.
then a 12wt for fish up to 100lbs.
then I have a 14 wt for fish up to 300lbs. (above 150# I would switch the #5 
Abel over to my 17wt Cam Siegler rod for heavy lifting.  I intend to get an 
Abel #6 for the 17wt.with 700 yds of 50lb. test)

That being said, differing species fight differently, and the gear can be 
bumped up or down depending on the situation.

Large arbor reels are good when fast line retrieve is needed, but you sacrifice 
deep backing for long runs.  Direct drive and anti-reverse are the next 
considerations, as a sail, marlin, or 50lb dorado can make a mess of your 
knuckles when you release the handle on a direct drive while under full pull.  
A two-hour fight is one thing, but having to do it with busted-up fingers is 
much more of a challenge.  My #12 reel is a Billy Pate Tarpon anti-reverse and 
I like it for most things.  The drawback is that the reel is not directly 
attached to the handle, so I find myself adjusting the clutch many times during 
the fight.  Right now I'm batting about 80% for fish over 100lbs., so that's 
not too bad.

Next things for fighting big fish is a Dolphin-style belt cup for the rod butt 
(get a fighting extended reel-seat butt-end for this) and then gloves.  I wear 
one on my left hand, as it is the only hand that comes in contact with the 
line.  My goal is a 300 lb. blue marlin on a fly rod.  

DonO
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  Did you ever fight a „real“ fish with your left hand as right hander or vice 
versa ? – I mean really big fish.

   


 

Thomas R. Eckert
royalcoach...@bluewin.ch
Sonnhaldenstrasse 14
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Switzerland
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Don,
Very well said, it is good to do it both ways. Like I said, when I 
started out most fish were in the 6 to 10 " catagorey, really no need to reel 
till you were ready to go home.LOL
Tony

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From: DonO 
    Subject: [VFB] Re: Left hand reel
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 9:46 AM

I, like many my age, grew up as a kid starting off with a bait-caster 
(if you don't include the cane-pole).  For a right-hander, that meant casting 
with the right and reeling with the right. Then push-button spinning reels came 
out (Sears).  They could be set up either right or left hand.  I started with 
right hand retrieve but ended up swapping to left hand retrieve to match the 
next invention.

 

The next phase was the under-hung open-face spinning reel (Mitchell 
300), right hand on rod, left hand reel.  The manual flipping of the bail and 
multitudes of casts made it more simple if the rod wasn't swapped every cast.  
I used to laugh at all the people who were so hard-wired that they flipped the 
open-face reel over to the top position and reeled in backwards.  Anyone 
remember that?

 

 

 
   






  




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[VFB] Re: Left hand reel

2009-04-06 Thread J Balmer 
Only briefly, when I was doing reaching for something w/ my right hand & had
switched hands. I dropped what ever it was & shifted pretty quickly.

 

J

 

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Did you ever fight a „real“ fish with your left hand as right hander or vice
versa ? – I mean really big fish.

 





Thomas R. Eckert
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 <http://www.royalcoachman.net> www.royalcoachman.net 

 


 

 

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Don,
Very well said, it is good to do it both ways. Like I said, when I started
out most fish were in the 6 to 10 " catagorey, really no need to reel till
you were ready to go home.LOL
Tony

--- On Mon, 4/6/09, DonO  wrote:


From: DonO 
Subject: [VFB] Re: Left hand reel
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 9:46 AM

I, like many my age, grew up as a kid starting off with a bait-caster (if
you don't include the cane-pole).  For a right-hander, that meant casting
with the right and reeling with the right. Then push-button spinning reels
came out (Sears).  They could be set up either right or left hand.  I
started with right hand retrieve but ended up swapping to left hand retrieve
to match the next invention.

 

The next phase was the under-hung open-face spinning reel (Mitchell 300),
right hand on rod, left hand reel.  The manual flipping of the bail and
multitudes of casts made it more simple if the rod wasn't swapped every
cast.  I used to laugh at all the people who were so hard-wired that they
flipped the open-face reel over to the top position and reeled in backwards.
Anyone remember that?

 

 

 

 



 


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[VFB] Re: Left hand reel

2009-04-06 Thread Neville Gosling 

 

To me, left hand wind (LHW) refers to the way the reel is set up to operate,
therefore a reel set up for RHW reel is wound in by the right hand, usually
after changing  the rod to the left hand but not always.

Initially, in my early days as a small boy using centre pin reels similar in
action to a fly reel, I used my right hand to wind in and the reel was
mounted accordingly. Then came spinning reels which at that time (mid 1950s)
were almost all left hand wind.  As Don O noted, one gets so used to this
that it eventually becomes automatic and so I wind in with my reel set up
for LHW. Once I found a near new Hardy perfect 31/8th model which was RHW
but it was such a bargain that I bought it thinking that I could manage with
it.  Not so, as I found myself constantly grabbing for a handle that wasn't
there.  As a result I sold it.  My son is left handed and he casts with his
left hand and retrieves with his right.

All my reels, be they fly, spinning, centre pin, baitcasting or large
saltwater multiplier are LHW with only one exception that I can think of
which is a saltwater multiplier which I will probably sell when I find a
suitable replacement.   

Neville (Nev) Gosling
Greater Vancouver
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[VFB] Re: Left hand reel

2009-04-06 Thread Wes Wada 

Hi VFB:

This is one of those no wrong answer threads...

I prefer a right-hand wind.  I am right-handed, and hopelessly not a
switch hitter.  I learned fishing on a Wright-McGill spin-cast reel
that looked somewhat like a closed fly reel, and it was also right
hand wind, with the rotations going exactly the same as my fly reel.
So fell naturally into using the same while fly fishing.

I do fish for some large, nasty trout, with the lunkers being in the
7-10 pound range.  I cast right handed, and strip line with my left.
When I get a large fish on, I let the line go through the fingers on
my stripping left hand (I always wear fingerless gloves). The left
hand also helps keep the free line from tangling on "stuff" as it is
coming tight, and I can still strip line in faster than I can reel it
in. That gives me lots of control over the line until the line
tightens to the reel.

>From that point onward, I play the fish from the reel, and switch the
rod to my left hand, winding the reel with my right.

To me, winding and retrieving line to prevent slack is extremely
important.  I use a wide arbor reel and can take in line quickly
winding with my right hand.  I would estimate, if I tried with winding
with my "off" hand, I could only retrieve HALF as fast, and not as
smoothly.  When I get a fish that runs toward me, I go back to
stripping line as fast as possible.  I have also been seen running
away from the bank to keep tension in the line!

When playing a big fish, there are all sorts of gremlins that can
cause you to lose the fish IF you are not playing the fish from the
reel.  (Visions of Captain Ahab)

Whatever toots your horn.

Wes Wada
Bend, Oregon

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Re: AW: [VFB] Re: Left hand reel

2009-04-06 Thread Anthony Spezio 
Tom,If this is for me, The answer is no on a fly rod but some big fish on salt water boat rods. Not in the sail fish category but some large sharks and big blues. Yes these were on a reel and cranking like mad.LOLTony--- On Mon, 4/6/09, Thomas Eckert  wrote:From: Thomas Eckert Subject: AW: [VFB] Re: Left hand reelTo: vfb-mail@googlegroups.comDate: Monday, April 6, 2009, 2:31 PM


 
 

 





Did you ever fight a „real“
fish with your left hand as right hander or vice versa ? – I mean really
big fish. 

   




 
  
  
   

 

   
  
  Thomas
  R. Eckert
  royalcoach...@bluewin.ch
  Sonnhaldenstrasse 14
  CH 8032 Zürich 7 ZH
  Switzerland
  Tel.: +41442628367
  Mobil: +41796795463
  www.royalcoachman.net  
  
  
    
  
 
 
  
     
  
 




   









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  Don,
  Very well said, it is good to do it both ways. Like I said, when I started
  out most fish were in the 6 to 10 " catagorey, really no need to reel
  till you were ready to go home.LOL
  Tony
  
  --- On Mon, 4/6/09, DonO 
  wrote: 
  
  From: DonO 
  Subject: [VFB] Re: Left hand reel
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
  Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 9:46 AM 
  
  
  I, like many my age, grew up as a kid starting off with a bait-caster
  (if you don't include the cane-pole).  For a right-hander, that meant
  casting with the right and reeling with the right. Then push-button spinning reels
  came out (Sears).  They could be set up either right or left
  hand.  I started with right hand retrieve but ended up swapping to left
  hand retrieve to match the next invention. 
  
  
    
  
  
  The next phase was the under-hung open-face spinning reel
  (Mitchell 300), right hand on rod, left hand reel.  The manual flipping
  of the bail and multitudes of casts made it more simple if the rod wasn't
  swapped every cast.  I used to laugh at all the people who were so
  hard-wired that they flipped the open-face reel over to the top position and
  reeled in backwards.  Anyone remember that? 
  
  
    
  
     
     
  
  
 








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AW: [VFB] Re: Left hand reel

2009-04-06 Thread Thomas Eckert 
Did you ever fight a „real“ fish with your left hand as right hander or vice
versa ? – I mean really big fish.

 





Thomas R. Eckert
 <mailto:royalcoach...@bluewin.ch> royalcoach...@bluewin.ch
Sonnhaldenstrasse 14
CH 8032 Zürich 7 ZH
Switzerland
Tel.: +41442628367
Mobil: +41796795463
 <http://www.royalcoachman.net> www.royalcoachman.net 

 


 

 

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Don,
Very well said, it is good to do it both ways. Like I said, when I started
out most fish were in the 6 to 10 " catagorey, really no need to reel till
you were ready to go home.LOL
Tony

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From: DonO 
Subject: [VFB] Re: Left hand reel
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 9:46 AM

I, like many my age, grew up as a kid starting off with a bait-caster (if
you don't include the cane-pole).  For a right-hander, that meant casting
with the right and reeling with the right. Then push-button spinning reels
came out (Sears).  They could be set up either right or left hand.  I
started with right hand retrieve but ended up swapping to left hand retrieve
to match the next invention.

 

The next phase was the under-hung open-face spinning reel (Mitchell 300),
right hand on rod, left hand reel.  The manual flipping of the bail and
multitudes of casts made it more simple if the rod wasn't swapped every
cast.  I used to laugh at all the people who were so hard-wired that they
flipped the open-face reel over to the top position and reeled in backwards.
Anyone remember that?

 

 

 





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[VFB] Re: Left hand reel

2009-04-06 Thread Rick Zieger 
I have been practicing to cast left handed and also to strip the line in iwth 
my left hand. 
At times I shift the rod and other times, just do it the way that it is in my 
right hand to cast.
 
I rarely hook som ething large enough to have to go to the reel to fight it.. 
 
Rick
 
 


 


  
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[VFB] Re: Left hand reel

2009-04-06 Thread J Balmer 
I have to concur w/ Tony, shifting hands is awkward & the only time I have a
fish on the reel is if it's big enough to take all the line I stripped. What
do you do if a fish takes the fly as it hits the water? In spite of that, I
also have to concur w/ the idea that whatever works for you  is what you
should be doingJ 

I spent quite a few years spinning for warm water species before my departed
father-in-law gave me his old Shakespeare fiberglass rod & auto reel. I
tried putting fish on the reel & found it to be problematic; I just couldn't
get the hang. Now that I have newer equipment, I only use the handle on the
reel when I'm storing line for transport or the few times a year when I have
to let the fish run. Maybe I just got used to having the rod in my right
hand while I was fighting.

Well, there was that one time I was a bit foggy in the AM & put the reel on
backwards & was too lazy to restring.

 

J

 

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George, 
That may be right for most people but I find it awkward to switch hands to
fight a fish. In most cases I strip the line in and seldom put it on the
reel. Again, it is just my way. I started fly fishing in 1944 with no formal
training., that goes back a way. I find I can let the line slip through my
stripping hand if the fish decides to run and not have the line come off the
reel. Back in my early days of fly fishing most fish were in the 6 to 10"
size, really no need to get them on the reel. Now I fish bigger waters and
some trout fall into the 20+ inch size but I still do it the same old way I
am used to. We do what works best for us. I have fishing partners that do it
your way and I di get some remarks about how I do it but we still catch fish
and enjoy what we do.
Tony

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From: George 
Subject: [VFB] Re: Left hand reel
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 8:35 AM

Ian, I do not think of this as a left hand reel. I am right handed and cast
with my right arm/hand. I then pass the rod to my left arm and reel with my
right hand. This is/was the traditional way of learning to fly fish and how
I learned over 50 years ago. Thus, you are right handed you are always using
your dominant hand.

 

Today's fly fisher has some how been mistakenly (in my opinion) learned to
cast with their right hand and reel with their left. In which case reels
need to be altered for right hand reeling. I still believe that most if not
all manufactures still sell their reels oriented to the old way.

 

Famed fly caster Lefty Kreh still advocates using your dominant hand as I
was taught.

 

George Vincent

 

 

 

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[VFB] Re: Left hand reel

2009-04-06 Thread Anthony Spezio 
Don,
Very well said, it is good to do it both ways. Like I said, when I started out 
most fish were in the 6 to 10 " catagorey, really no need to reel till you were 
ready to go home.LOL
Tony

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I, like many my age, grew up as a kid starting off with a 
bait-caster (if you don't include the cane-pole).  For a 
right-hander, that meant casting with the right and reeling with the right. 
Then 
push-button spinning reels came out (Sears).  
They could be set up either right or left hand.  I started with right hand 
retrieve but ended up swapping to left hand retrieve to match the next 
invention.
 
The next phase was the under-hung open-face 
spinning reel (Mitchell 300), right hand on rod, left hand reel.  
The manual flipping of the bail and multitudes of casts made it more simple if 
the rod wasn't swapped every cast.  I used to laugh at all the people who 
were so hard-wired that they flipped the open-face reel over to the top 
position 
and reeled in backwards.  Anyone remember that?
 





  
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[VFB] Re: Left hand reel

2009-04-06 Thread Jeff Frye 


I cast right and retrieve/;ine control left like most folks. I would rather be 
fighting a carp or wiper with my dominate hand holding the rod. Also, I'm not 
sure that I could get used to mending with the left hand.


--- On Mon, 4/6/09, DonO  wrote:

> From: DonO 
> Subject: [VFB] Re: Left hand reel
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 9:46 AM
> I, like many my age, grew up as a kid starting off with a
> bait-caster (if you don't include the cane-pole).  For a
> right-hander, that meant casting with the right and reeling
> with the right. Then push-button spinning reels came out
> (Sears).  They could be set up either right or left hand.  I
> started with right hand retrieve but ended up swapping to
> left hand retrieve to match the next invention.
> 
> The next phase was the under-hung open-face spinning reel
> (Mitchell 300), right hand on rod, left hand reel.  The
> manual flipping of the bail and multitudes of casts made it
> more simple if the rod wasn't swapped every cast.  I
> used to laugh at all the people who were so hard-wired that
> they flipped the open-face reel over to the top position and
> reeled in backwards.  Anyone remember that?
> 
> Now transition that to flycasting.  First came the
> automatic reels.  Best leave the rod in the casting hand so
> the pinkie was in play all the time on the retreive lever,
> and the left hand is handling the slack line and/or reeling.
>  Now transition that to standard direct drive reels like we
> use today.  Cast right, line manage with left, familiar
> underhung manual reel.  Line management includes reeling in
> slack or fighting the fish from the reel, including managing
> all of the slack line. This is identical to fishing with
> open-faced spinning reels, so the brain doesn't have to
> make a swap.  The difference is that the left hand managed
> the bail (at first) and reeled in.  Now, with auto
> bail-flippers, the left hand has one thing less to do.  But
> the brain is hard-wired now.
> 
> (I did have an intermediate phase in here.  My first
> 'fly rod' was a cane pole fitted with a spinning
> reel (taped to the butt end) and clothes-line for fly-line-
> casted much like a spey rod today.  Fishing for gills at 20
> feet didn't require tight loops, but I didn't know
> what that was anyway.  Wet flies were made from pillow
> feathers and leader was my spinning mono. They fell apart
> after one fish, maybe before, but the bare hook was put to
> good use with garden hackle.)
> 
> I see no reason why one can't reel with either hand,
> provided he is comfortable and well-practiced with swapping
> the rod after each cast.  I am so hard-wired to reeling with
> the left hand that I feel awkward to the point of
> frustration if I have to swap and reel right-handed.  Jerry
> G. can attest to that (borrowed his right-hand reel in
> Florida).  I can cast with either hand proficiently, but
> reeling is a left-handed proposition, but only with my fly
> rod and spinning rods.  It had to have been learned and
> imprinted, as when I swap to a bait reel or level-wind
> trolling rig (reel on top), I prefer to use my right hand to
> reel.
> 
> For long-long fights on salt-water gamefish- tuna, sails,
> marlin, etc., there is no such thing as playing it off the
> slack line.  Getting slack fed out at 50 mph without hanging
> up is critical. But once the fish is in play on the reel
> (clutch is all-important here), I'd like to try a reel
> that could accept a quick-connect temporary handle on the
> right side (removed until hook-up).  During the hours-long
> battle, right-hand reeling would give the left-hand fingers
> and arm a break for a while.  I do swap the rod to the left
> hand to un-cramp the fingers of my right hand, but that is
> during the no-ground-gained tug-of-war sessions.  My reel
> holds 700 yards of 30# test backing, and I've been close
> to being spooled by sailfish.  Reeling in 300, 400, 500
> yards of backing as fast as possible (direct drive &
> reduced spool diameter) as the fish turns and heads towards
> the boat wears out the forearm something fierce.  Then it
> passes the boat and takes out that line again.  Repeat
> above...  many times...
> 
> So I teach right-hand casting and left-hand retreive to
> students because that is the most common set-up they'll
> find in guide-boat rods and other borrowed and loaned gear. 
> But unlike me, it would be better to be able to do it either
> way.  Like Jerry G.- he goes both ways.
> 
> My 2 cents
> DonO
>   - Original Message - 
>   From: George 
>   To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
>   Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 7:35 AM
>   Subject: [V

[VFB] Re: Left hand reel

2009-04-06 Thread DonO 
I, like many my age, grew up as a kid starting off with a bait-caster (if you 
don't include the cane-pole).  For a right-hander, that meant casting with the 
right and reeling with the right. Then push-button spinning reels came out 
(Sears).  They could be set up either right or left hand.  I started with right 
hand retrieve but ended up swapping to left hand retrieve to match the next 
invention.

The next phase was the under-hung open-face spinning reel (Mitchell 300), right 
hand on rod, left hand reel.  The manual flipping of the bail and multitudes of 
casts made it more simple if the rod wasn't swapped every cast.  I used to 
laugh at all the people who were so hard-wired that they flipped the open-face 
reel over to the top position and reeled in backwards.  Anyone remember that?

Now transition that to flycasting.  First came the automatic reels.  Best leave 
the rod in the casting hand so the pinkie was in play all the time on the 
retreive lever, and the left hand is handling the slack line and/or reeling.  
Now transition that to standard direct drive reels like we use today.  Cast 
right, line manage with left, familiar underhung manual reel.  Line management 
includes reeling in slack or fighting the fish from the reel, including 
managing all of the slack line. This is identical to fishing with open-faced 
spinning reels, so the brain doesn't have to make a swap.  The difference is 
that the left hand managed the bail (at first) and reeled in.  Now, with auto 
bail-flippers, the left hand has one thing less to do.  But the brain is 
hard-wired now.

(I did have an intermediate phase in here.  My first 'fly rod' was a cane pole 
fitted with a spinning reel (taped to the butt end) and clothes-line for 
fly-line- casted much like a spey rod today.  Fishing for gills at 20 feet 
didn't require tight loops, but I didn't know what that was anyway.  Wet flies 
were made from pillow feathers and leader was my spinning mono. They fell apart 
after one fish, maybe before, but the bare hook was put to good use with garden 
hackle.)

I see no reason why one can't reel with either hand, provided he is comfortable 
and well-practiced with swapping the rod after each cast.  I am so hard-wired 
to reeling with the left hand that I feel awkward to the point of frustration 
if I have to swap and reel right-handed.  Jerry G. can attest to that (borrowed 
his right-hand reel in Florida).  I can cast with either hand proficiently, but 
reeling is a left-handed proposition, but only with my fly rod and spinning 
rods.  It had to have been learned and imprinted, as when I swap to a bait reel 
or level-wind trolling rig (reel on top), I prefer to use my right hand to reel.

For long-long fights on salt-water gamefish- tuna, sails, marlin, etc., there 
is no such thing as playing it off the slack line.  Getting slack fed out at 50 
mph without hanging up is critical. But once the fish is in play on the reel 
(clutch is all-important here), I'd like to try a reel that could accept a 
quick-connect temporary handle on the right side (removed until hook-up).  
During the hours-long battle, right-hand reeling would give the left-hand 
fingers and arm a break for a while.  I do swap the rod to the left hand to 
un-cramp the fingers of my right hand, but that is during the no-ground-gained 
tug-of-war sessions.  My reel holds 700 yards of 30# test backing, and I've 
been close to being spooled by sailfish.  Reeling in 300, 400, 500 yards of 
backing as fast as possible (direct drive & reduced spool diameter) as the fish 
turns and heads towards the boat wears out the forearm something fierce.  Then 
it passes the boat and takes out that line again.  Repeat above...  many 
times...

So I teach right-hand casting and left-hand retreive to students because that 
is the most common set-up they'll find in guide-boat rods and other borrowed 
and loaned gear.  But unlike me, it would be better to be able to do it either 
way.  Like Jerry G.- he goes both ways.

My 2 cents
DonO
  - Original Message - 
  From: George 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 7:35 AM
  Subject: [VFB] Re: Left hand reel


  Ian, I do not think of this as a left hand reel. I am right handed and cast 
with my right arm/hand. I then pass the rod to my left arm and reel with my 
right hand. This is/was the traditional way of learning to fly fish and how I 
learned over 50 years ago. Thus, you are right handed you are always using your 
dominant hand.

  Today's fly fisher has some how been mistakenly (in my opinion) learned to 
cast with their right hand and reel with their left. In which case reels need 
to be altered for right hand reeling. I still believe that most if not all 
manufactures still sell their reels oriented to the old way.

  Famed fly caster Lefty Kreh still advoca

[VFB] Re: Left hand reel

2009-04-06 Thread Anthony Spezio 
George, 
That may be right for most people but I find it awkward to switch hands to 
fight a fish. In most cases I strip the line in and seldom put it on the reel. 
Again, it is just my way. I started fly fishing in 1944 with no formal 
training., that goes back a way. I find I can let the line slip through my 
stripping hand if the fish decides to run and not have the line come off the 
reel. Back in my early days of fly fishing most fish were in the 6 to 10" size, 
really no need to get them on the reel. Now I fish bigger waters and some trout 
fall into the 20+ inch size but I still do it the same old way I am used to. We 
do what works best for us. I have fishing partners that do it your way and I di 
get some remarks about how I do it but we still catch fish and enjoy what we do.
Tony

--- On Mon, 4/6/09, George  wrote:

From: George 
Subject: [VFB] Re: Left hand reel
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Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 8:35 AM



 

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Ian, I do not think of this as a 
left hand reel. I am right handed and cast with my right arm/hand. I then pass 
the rod to my left arm and reel with my right hand. This is/was the traditional 
way of learning to fly fish and how I learned over 50 years ago. Thus, you are 
right handed you are always using your dominant hand.
 
Today's fly fisher has some how been 
mistakenly (in my opinion) learned to cast with their right hand and reel with 
their left. In which case reels need to be altered for right hand reeling. I 
still believe that most if not all manufactures still sell their reels oriented 
to the old way.
 
Famed fly caster Lefty Kreh still 
advocates using your dominant hand as I was taught.
 
George Vincent
 
 



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Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 03:09
To: 
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Subject: [VFB] Left hand reel


Hi Guys

I am selling a left hand ABU DIPLOMAT 178 reel with 
padded case
(you wind with the right hand)

Silent wind in, and 
adjustable ratchet drag

3.25 inches diameter

paint rubbed off in 
the usual spot

Anyone interested email me off list at 
iainsh...@hotmail.com

iain



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[VFB] Re: Left hand reel

2009-04-06 Thread George 
Ian, I do not think of this as a left hand reel. I am right handed and cast
with my right arm/hand. I then pass the rod to my left arm and reel with my
right hand. This is/was the traditional way of learning to fly fish and how
I learned over 50 years ago. Thus, you are right handed you are always using
your dominant hand.
 
Today's fly fisher has some how been mistakenly (in my opinion) learned to
cast with their right hand and reel with their left. In which case reels
need to be altered for right hand reeling. I still believe that most if not
all manufactures still sell their reels oriented to the old way.
 
Famed fly caster Lefty Kreh still advocates using your dominant hand as I
was taught.
 
George Vincent
 
 

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Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 03:09
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Subject: [VFB] Left hand reel


Hi Guys

I am selling a left hand ABU DIPLOMAT 178 reel with padded case
(you wind with the right hand)

Silent wind in, and adjustable ratchet drag

3.25 inches diameter

paint rubbed off in the usual spot

Anyone interested email me off list at iainsh...@hotmail.com

iain


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