Ah, of course. One might find one thing incredible valuable, and another would not.On 12/1/05, Digital Buddha
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If financial worth is equal to audience interest and that interest is subjective, is financial worth then subjective?On 12/1/05,
Devlon
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
And both determination of value can be objective to the different make
up of those individuals.
-- Enric
http://www.cirne.com
Determine the Media
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ah, of course. One might find one thing incredible valuable, and
And those in control of the make up of an individual's make up
(nature, nurture take your pick) are in control of the determination
of value.
And those with money and power may play a big role in one's make up,
so they can feed thier own value.
On 12/2/05, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And
Ok, it's late...that first part didn't make sense, but you know what I mean.
On 12/2/05, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And those in control of the make up of an individual's make up
(nature, nurture take your pick) are in control of the determination
of value.
And those with money and
The number of factors, complexity and randomness of human
characteristics make it currently unlikely to precisely calculate
worth for a large population. Another factor is that human beings are
volitional and self-determined, therefore self-creating. So future
predictions are likely to fail.
Don't tell advertisers that ;)On 12/2/05, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The number of factors, complexity and randomness of human
characteristics make it currently unlikely to precisely calculate
worth for a large population. Another factor is that human beings are
volitional and
The smart ones know it and adjust to constant change ;)
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Don't tell advertisers that ;)
On 12/2/05, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The number of factors, complexity and randomness of human
characteristics make it
Friday, December 2, 2005, 6:42:08 AM, Deirdre Straughan wrote:
My suggestion on the porn:
Have a ratings system, so that everyone who submits a feed has to tag it
rated G rated X or whatever.
If a feed is rated X, replace any thumbnails with Adult Content or some
such in a graphic.
If
On 12/2/05, Frank Carver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't think it would work leaving the categorizing to the submitter.I can imagine plenty of reasons why someone might (deliberately oraccidentally) mis-categorize something.
Yes, of course, but... I don't think that any of the sites which
we should have an authority to rate a vlog. just like netiba
On 12/2/05, Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 12/2/05, Frank Carver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't think it would work leaving the categorizing to the submitter.
I can imagine plenty of reasons why someone might
On 12/2/05, Wong Teck Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
we should have an authority to rate a vlog. just like netiba
I've never heard of NetIBA before (just looked it up), which may or may
not prove anything. But, for a business with money behind it, there is
incentive to pay for something like
perhaps someone's willing to do sth like vlog-monitor?
On 12/2/05, Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 12/2/05, Wong Teck Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
we should have an authority to rate a vlog. just like netiba
I've never heard of NetIBA before (just looked it up), which may or
petertheman wrote:
Hey Jay,
yes, I noticed it as well. It was inevitable, I am actually surprised
it took this long..
Any comments?
Well, it's sad, but as a directory, I suppose it's something you have to
deal with. Some ideas...
I wouldn't go with G, PG, X type ratings... As mentioned,
I have to say I feel concerned about the free distribution of adult
and violent videos by individuals, versus the law-abiding, lawyer-
retaining mainstream producers who have to keep on file documents
regarding the actor's age, animal welfare, explosives permits, etc.
So my question is; How
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Jung
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 9:29
AM
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Porn on
mefeedia??
we
I wouldn't go with G, PG, X type ratings... As mentioned, 'adult'
doesn't always mean X, etc. Perhaps following the iTunes model of
marking things as 'mature' or 'explicit' or whatever might work.
For people not logged in, I would filter out all 'mature' content. For
people who are
petertheman wrote:
know that I'm sometimes not even sure if I should want videos in
FireANT
when my kids are in the room.
Yep. It's a complex issue. I just want to make sure we provide
solutions that scale and that work, but don't censor. There is enough
censorship out there.
Agreed. I'm
: [videoblogging] Re: Porn on mefeedia??
i think i will setup a new section called vlogdirty... the porn room.
;-)
sull
On 12/1/05, petertheman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't think you
he
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Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 10:50
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Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Porn on
mefeedia??
I wo
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just wanted to throw something out to the vlogger community.
I just went to check mefeedia site. Because of an email from Devlon
and was bummed to
see some one had submitted a Iporn site which was inevitable.
I personally
Hey Jay,
yes, I noticed it as well. It was inevitable, I am actually surprised
it took this long..
So here's the plan we have, for now. In a few months we'll probably
add more features. I have given this some thought over the past
months, and there is a balance: I want mefeedia to be an open
I personally am not opposed to porn but when it comes up so
blatantly we as vloggers are
going to need to find away so that when we are showing new people
youth how to Vlog
and the tools that are available that this stuff does not hit us in
the face.
This is by the way exactly the
I don't think you should be required to sensor anything if you dont
want to. In order to gain a lasting trust with the users of your
system, however, I think it would be important for you to provide a
rating system for adult content.
Its not just for kids - I would like to see an alert that
Why not provide an option for users to flag certain content as
questionable or offensive, then put that content/feed into moderation
queue for possible removal.
-Josh
On 12/1/05, andrew michael baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't think you should be required to sensor anything if you dont
I agree. I think short of censorship, rating or categorizing would be best.
Tags might be able to help sort out some porn and violent videos from the others.Joan
On 12/2/05, andrew michael baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't think you should be required to sensor anything if you dontwant
Why not provide an option for users to flag certain content as
questionable or offensive, then put that content/feed into moderation
queue for possible removal.
Flagging is another thing we're working on. The key is this though: I
don't want to remove feeds like Richard's, even though they
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't think you should be required to sensor anything if you dont
want to. In order to gain a lasting trust with the users of your
system, however, I think it would be important for you to provide a
Flickr does that 'flag this content' although it makes you feel like you are
reporting it,
when in reality, I'm pretty sure it just puts it in a specific category. And in
things like
Google Image Search, adult/mature content is set to OFF by default. That kind
of system
could work.
ER
i think i will setup a new section called vlogdirty... the porn room.;-)sullOn 12/1/05, petertheman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:--- In
videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think you should be required to sensor anything if you dont want to. In order
HI guys,
Being the bold intrepid explorer that I am, ventured on to this site to see what all the fuss was about and found...
FREE PORN Downloadable and up to 1/2 hour long. Another thing grabs me though, all of this material was not made by the owner of the site,
Is there anyway to force a thumb nail warning label requirement on porn
postings? I think
it should be treated like cigarettes...Adults have the right to smoke all they
want, but the
gov forces cigarette manufacturers to put a warning label on the package.
Bill Day
mebillday.blogspot.com
Being the bold intrepid explorer that I am, ventured on to this site to
see what all the fuss was about and
found...
FREE PORN Downloadable and up to 1/2 hour long. Another thing
grabs me though, all of this material was not made by the owner of the
site, I
Glad to know there are guy out there ready to put themselves on the line for the greater good of mankind. :)
Joan
On 12/2/05, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Being the bold intrepid explorer that I am, ventured on to this site to see what all the fuss was about and
Just when I thought it was safe to go out and educate my community
(of all ages) on vlogging, one of the sample videos I was displaying
from http://www.blogtelevision.net/ had a broken link. So I went to
go find it or another one, for samples for referral page web video
hosts.
It looks like
On 12/1/05, southvalleymobiletelevision [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just when I thought it was safe to go out and educate my community
(of all ages) on vlogging, one of the sample videos I was displaying
from http://www.blogtelevision.net/ had a broken link. So I went to
go find it or another
if coke does a videoblog, i'd be happy to let it be listed in the vlogdir. i like coke.On 12/2/05, Michael Sullivan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:i dont think the decision should emphasize a pro or anti-commercialism of video feeds. well, thats of course up to peter... but i assure you that you wont
i dont think the decision should emphasize a pro or anti-commercialism of video feeds. well, thats of course up to peter... but i assure you that you wont be able to keep an open directory pure of commercial media or commercially driven media. and, i dont necessarily feel that its presence in a
I like your thinking Sull. Is worth based on interest? hmm...
- TedOn 12/1/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
if coke does a videoblog, i'd be happy to let it be listed in the vlogdir. i like coke.On 12/2/05,
Michael Sullivan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:i
dont think the decision
Depends on who's interested, it's subjective. That gives
community involvement more value. It's (ideally at least) a more
tempered view.
On 12/1/05, Digital Buddha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I like your thinking Sull. Is worth based on interest? hmm...
- TedOn 12/1/05, Michael Sullivan
If financial worth is equal to audience interest and that interest is subjective, is financial worth then subjective?On 12/1/05, Devlon
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Depends on who's interested, it's subjective. That gives
community involvement more value. It's (ideally at least) a more
tempered
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