Re: [videoblogging] Re: Threats and male vloggers

2007-05-05 Thread Mike Meiser
Steve, That last comment was completely out of line ont eh admin thing. They accused an entire community of sock puppeting... on the basis of ONE new user account. There is no cospiracy to sock puppet the issue. Secondly, there IS NO CONFLICT of interest... again an attack on one user... and

[videoblogging] Re: Threats and male vloggers (plain text version)

2007-05-03 Thread David Howell
Spamming the list replying in a different thread? David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Delongchamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey group, The results are back from Mmeiser's proposed Wikipedia ban of pdelongchamp. See what each Wikipedia

[videoblogging] Re: Threats and male vloggers

2007-05-03 Thread Enric
Wikipedia for credibility and to compete with established encyclopedias like Encyclopaedia Britannica, requires citation from authoritative sources. This is usually established media sources like New York Times, Time Magazine, ABC News, etc. People working on new developments on the net like

[videoblogging] Re: Threats and male vloggers

2007-05-03 Thread Enric
Very useful approach. When I find time, I'll do that. -- Enric -==- http://cirne.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So who wants to go through the 3 vlogging books written by this community and then jsut cite them in the wikipedia entry.

[videoblogging] Re: Threats and male vloggers

2007-05-03 Thread David Howell
I apologize for the formatting. Allow me to post this here as well rather than just in an email to Patrick Delongchamp. Patrick. Quit fucking emailing me you nutjob. David Howell to Patrick show details 12:36 pm (3 minutes ago) You fucking nutcase. I did not try to vote

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Threats and male vloggers

2007-05-03 Thread Patrick Delongchamp
I apologize. I just wrote this reply to David Howell and I want to extend it to David Meade. Ugh. This has not been a great week. I'm genuinely sorry guys. pat -- Forwarded message -- From: Patrick Delongchamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: May 3, 2007 1:44 PM Subject: Re: Vlog

RE: [videoblogging] Re: Threats and male vloggers

2007-05-03 Thread Charles Hope
for such an accomplished griefer? -Original Message- From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Delongchamp Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 13:51 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Threats and male vloggers I apologize

[videoblogging] Re: Threats and male vloggers

2007-05-03 Thread Steve Watkins
Oh come off it! As far as Im concerned you've dug your own hole by not making your case properly. Why havent you provided the info the wikipedia admins asked for? Im glad that attempts to harness the mob without careful consideration and better, less emotional, stating of your case, have failed.

[videoblogging] Re: Threats and male vloggers

2007-05-03 Thread Steve Watkins
Let me clarify a little. When this issue was posted here, I wsnted to learn more, I wanted the question marks to disappear, so I could form my own opinion bout whether Pat is a troll or whether people have the wrong idea about wikipedia, or a subtle blend of the 2. I got plenty of posts from

[videoblogging] Re: Threats and male vloggers

2007-05-03 Thread Steve Watkins
Ive read it till Im blue in the face. Its clear Pat has made a lot of edits, but Im still waiting for someone to post a specific example of his behaviour at its worst. Lets stop being vague, show me some specific info that he deleted, that he wasnt right to do so. Because when I try to spend

[videoblogging] Re: Threats and male vloggers

2007-05-03 Thread missbhavens1969
Crossing the line? Gee...Y'think? Well, since we've descended into the pit of juvenile name calling, I'd like to say that after the close following of these wikipedia/videoblogging threads I've come to the conclusion that a certain someone has a Teeny. Weenie. Peenie. Kisses, Bekah (I couldn't

[videoblogging] Re: Threats and male vloggers

2007-05-03 Thread David Howell
No original research? Why not? Why use new media to define new media with a requirement that the validation come from old media. That's just plain asinine. David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ive read it till Im

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Threats and male vloggers

2007-05-03 Thread Patrick Delongchamp
She's right. It's pretty mini. On 5/3/07, missbhavens1969 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Crossing the line? Gee...Y'think? Well, since we've descended into the pit of juvenile name calling, I'd like to say that after the close following of these wikipedia/videoblogging threads I've come to the

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Threats and male vloggers

2007-05-03 Thread Kary Rogers
As someone who's - new, as in, been a member of the list a few months - still trying to figure out many aspects of videoblogging - only exposure to the wiki entry issue has been on this email list this is how is seems to me. People who have defined and shaped videoblogging are the most

[videoblogging] Re: Threats and male vloggers

2007-05-03 Thread Heath
Kary - this is a well thought out and written summaryand it has no place in this flame war (I kid, I play, I joke) Very nice reply Kary Heath http://batmangeek.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Kary Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As someone who's - new, as in, been a

[videoblogging] Re: Threats and male vloggers

2007-05-03 Thread Steve Watkins
Great post :) You put it all exceedingly well. Thanks to Jays constructive approach, Ive joined wikipedia and am on the talk page. Im doing a lot more reading before I do any daring edits though. For me, judging by what Ive said here in the last few days, my personal balancing act will be how to

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Threats and male vloggers

2007-05-03 Thread Mike Meiser
FYi... I've *started* to back up the request for temporary banning of pdelongchamp on the vb article on wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Community_sanction_noticeboard#Evidence_against_Pdelongchamp That's the full url, for some reason tiny urls don't support a names and the

[videoblogging] Re: Threats and male vloggers

2007-05-03 Thread Steve Watkins
Well I wasnt happy to see this group and things said in it being used as evidence by both sides to argue their case, should have stuck to the actual wikipedia issues. Anyway the call for a ban has now been removed, I believe it was considered to be a personal dispute and the wrong thing was being

[videoblogging] Re: Threats and male vloggers

2007-05-03 Thread Heath
Published BOOKS about videoblogging should not be included? What does it matter if the auther added them or not? They are published booksif that isn't relevant then I don't know what is. Heath http://batmangeek.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[videoblogging] Re: Threats and male vloggers

2007-05-03 Thread Steve Watkins
Well again bear in mind thats just one persons opinion, but they werent saying such books should not be included. They were saying its not a good idea for people to be adding their own books to wikipedia, probably because it has the potential to threaten the neutral aims of wikipedia, or lead to

[videoblogging] Re: Threats and male vloggers

2007-05-03 Thread Steve Watkins
OK I mus stop posting here on this topic soon, but just to clarify how different the detail of wikipedia guidelines can be compared to the short version. The following is from the conflict of interest page I just linked to ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest ) , and I