Re: [videoblogging] Vlogs As TV
Halcyon Lujah wrote: The computer is a terrible place to present video. People are in multi-tasking mode. Personally, It is rare that I watch more than 2 minutes of video without checking my email at some point (and I don't think my habits are unique.) i see it differently - i do have the same habits, but this works great for me - i enjoy multitasking I long for the great convergence when my self-produced, self-published videos will be available and viewable in a TV setting...when people have their feet kicked up. When they settle in to their sofa with a beer and actually focus on my work. tune out seems more likely - or flip channels one of the best things about vlogs is that I interact with them (and because of them) and another is the incredible syncronicity of events around my multitasking (it seems like every little thing is related these days) i will never go back to TV viewing like you describe if you want people to focus on your work, I think it involves more than showing them your video in releative isolation or on a larger screen i focus the most on what is important, interseting or entertaining to me markus -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://spinflow.org http://spinsummer2005.blogspot.com http://spinsummer2005meetup.blogspot.com http://vloggercuewest.blogspot.com aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] london bombings
Thanks for pointing this videoblog out. Amazing! On 7/21/05, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: have others seen this. its by afatgirlfromohio...a fairly new videoblogger who's got skill. http://www.mommaradio.com/ruperthowevlog/?p=20 this is the kind of stuff i dreamed about. biombs go off in london. what is it like there...how does it feel? everything now. direct. unmediated. jay -- URL: http://www.momentshowing.net Adventures in Videoblogging Yahoo! Groups Links YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vlogs As TV
Like often happens when i read/watch/listen to people here I agree... but its besides the point. vlog came from blog. so you need to have some of what makes a blog a blog... all these other points are fine, but it doesnt diffuse the fact that a videoblog (vlog) is still a blog. take for example the fact that you can technically recieve a text blog on a TV. does that suddenly mean the blog that is on the internet is now something else just because some people are seeing it on a TV? no way. cant get into offsprings and shit. is what it is... unless it aint. sullOn 7/22/05, Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't necessarily disagree with what anyone's saying here, but letme play devil's advocate (as I often do)... -- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -http://vlogdir.com -is- The Videoblog Directory http://interdigitate.com -is- my personal site YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] tipping point 150
so, if a few new people jump in and start posting this group will be larger than 150. Soon, new subgroups of vloggers will start forming. It's great to watch. there will probably be the religious vbloggers, the artistic vbloggers, the diaristic vbloggers, the mobile phone vbloggers, the commercial vloggers, the social cause vbloggers, current event vbloggers and so on...can't wait, this space is so wide open, so I'm jumping in hoping to hasten this transition on. -Greg Worley www.worleyworks.com So I've been reading The Tipping Point by Malcom Gladwell which is a fascinating book. I just finished the chapter about groups of 150. For those of you who haven't read the book here's a quick summary of this idea via, http://tinyurl.com/45rhj THE MAGIC NUMBER 150 There seems to be some limitation built into us either by learning or by the design of the nervous systems, a limit that keeps our channel capacities in this general range (i.e. the human minds inability to comprehend things beyond sets 7) George Miller The Magical Number Seven The figure of 150 seems to represent the maximum number of individuals with whom we can have a genuinely social relationship, the kind of relationship that goes with knowing who they are and how they relate to us. Putting it another way, it's the number of people you would not feel embarrassed about joining uninvited for a drink if you happened to bump into them in a bar. Robin Dunbar, 1. Even relatively small increases in the size of a group [beyond 150] creates a significant additional social and intellectual burden. 2. The rule of 150 suggests that the size of a group is another one of those subtle contextual factors that can make a big difference. 3. Peer pressure is much more powerful than a concept of a boss 4. Transactive memory: we store information with other people. Since mental energy is limited, we concentrate on what we do best. 5. Groups of 150 are an organized mechanism that makes it far easier for new ideas and information moving around the organization to tip; to go from one person or one part of the group to the entire group all at once. So this got me thinking about how, it seems to me, the tone and demeanor of the group has altered in the last couple of weeks. Now I know this group is larger than 1000 people but most don't post at all. To me the group feels like a group of the people who post regularly. So I went back and counted how many people posted at least twice in the last month. My quick count - 145! Could it be that this group is reacting not to any individual or small group of posters but rather have we begun to reach the maximum number of individuals with whom we can have a genuinely social relationship? Verdi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] 150 - Group Tipping Point?
I've heard of this... so, you feel that the group is undergoing some passive-aggressive social dilemma here? i think when a few people stir up things and amp up the noise level... people will get flustered... it ripples. those who enjoy interacting using this list will find it hard to restrain from responding to some postings their is also the ego element... even when you denounce the big ego, in doing so publicly, it is almost no different. people like to be witty... some get too nasty. gotta keep balance... stay tuned, always. the numbers are in the back of our head... we see how many posts are made and how many people join the group.. it can subconsciously hype you... and that leads to potential brazenness. it's also summer. and hot most places... known to be a player in amplifying craze in all of us. any extreme weather, actually. i think things are ok... we have experienced social spikes (for good or bad) here before way it is. we should remember that what we write is being portentially read by over 1000 people... are some playing for an audience or just looking to talk the vlog? we need more video summer of vlog yo.. and I gotta get my act together. maybe I will do a rant piece today... sullOn 7/22/05, Michael Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I've been reading The Tipping Point by Malcom Gladwell which is afascinating book.I just finished the chapter about groups of 150.For those of you who haven't read the book here's a quick summary ofthis idea via, http://tinyurl.com/45rhjTHE MAGIC NUMBER 150There seems to be some limitation built into us either by learningor by the design of the nervous systems, a limit that keeps our channel capacities in this general range (i.e. the human mindsinability to comprehend things beyond sets 7) George Miller TheMagical Number SevenThe figure of 150 seems to represent the maximum number of individuals with whom we can have a genuinely social relationship,the kind of relationship that goes with knowing who they are and howthey relate to us. Putting it another way, it's the number of peopleyou would not feel embarrassed about joining uninvited for a drink if you happened to bump into them in a bar. Robin Dunbar,1. Even relatively small increases in the size of a group [beyond150] creates a significant additional social and intellectual burden.2. The rule of 150 suggests that the size of a group is another one of those subtle contextual factors that can make a big difference.3. Peer pressure is much more powerful than a concept of a boss4. Transactive memory: we store information with other people.Since mental energy is limited, we concentrate on what we do best. 5. Groups of 150 are an organized mechanism that makes it fareasier for new ideas and information moving around the organizationto tip; to go from one person or one part of the group to the entiregroup all at once. So this got me thinking about how, it seems to me, the tone anddemeanor of the group has altered in the last couple of weeks.Now Iknow this group is larger than 1000 people but most don't post atall.To me the group feels like a group of the people who post regularly.So I went back and counted how many people posted atleast twice in the last month.My quick count - 145!Could it bethat this group is reacting not to any individual or small group ofposters but rather have we begun to reach the maximum number of individuals with whom we can have a genuinely social relationship?Verdihttp://michaelverdi.comhttp://freevlog.org Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -http://vlogdir.com -is- The Videoblog Directoryhttp://interdigitate.com -is- my personal site YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vlogs As Art
and just as relavent to anything else you, the creator,may not consider something you have created as being art (not possible in my opinion :) but others who observe and interpret whatever it is you have created... very well may deem it as art. still, art is everything. heheh.-- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -http://vlogdir.com -is- The Videoblog Directory http://interdigitate.com -is- my personal site YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Cell Phones and Meet The Vloggers Seattle (Aug. 6).
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, pettisb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Make note on all calendars and tell the press. The Seattle Meet Vloggers event will be on August 6th, at 3PM at the University Village Apple Store. This is going to be a teach-in to give anyone there the information they need to become a vlogger. If you're going to be in Sea-town, let me know and we'll schedule you the mic to do some teaching and sharing and question answering. It's going to be awesome. I'm looking forward to the Seattle event. Are any of you interested in coming out for this? Last I heard we had only a few vloggers, but it would be much better if there were a bunch of us there. I can demo VlogMap.org and my buddy Pete can show one (or more?) of our vlog posts. It was also mentioned that we discuss vlog promotion, but I'm not sure what that would entail other than getting listed in the directories. Can someone post the videos of the previous events again? Thanks -- Matt http://www.leanbackvids.com/videoblog/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vlogs As TV
I know this is really evil, and I hope I don't get kicked of the list, but I just posted an email in another thread that is, I think, really relevant to this thread, so I'm copying it again below ... Richard, the dual thread poster and sometimes thread starter .. hee hee hee ** Recently my wife said that she wished she could see some of the videos I'm always talking about, and wished she could just watch them on TV. Being Technologically challenged, I didn't know how to do this but went to Radio Shack, talked to the guy and came home sporting a long s-video cable and a cable that had an RCA jack on one end and an end that fit in my headphone jack. (total of about $20) AND THE REVOLUTION BEGAN ... We watch video literally on our TV every night via ant ... the picture is oftensort of crappy, and I can't figure out how to make .mov files full screen in ant, but it doesn't matter, it's just so much more comfortable to sit on the couch drinking a beer and share the video blogging experience with my wife ... somehow I feel like I've made some major transformation in recognizing what grass roots media really is as a competitor for my normal TV shows ... how the web could so totally change everything ... clearly not for many people, but really cool for me ... Speaking of which, to make the situation even cooler ... last night, at 10:30 central time, II open firefox, type in a url, click a button and suddenly I'm watching Jay and Ryann live from New York. The picture was sort of fuzzy; it wasn't exactly the most polished script :); and when they said something about Harry Potter and I thought they might show my Harry Potter party video, it turned out quite a bit different (in fact, I was afraid they might have me - a 47 year old - on tape standing in line to get the book) ... and I LOVED it ... who cared about the picture quality and polished script - I had my own personalized TV show from New York ON MY TV ... Jay and Ryann live in my living room talking about and showing video blogs ... I pinch myself ... ow! ... ... anyway, what I meant to say was thanks for sharing the url, and for the show, it was really cool ... Richard, Jay and Raynn groupie -- Richard http://www.richardshow.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: watch YOU tonight!
i was too slow to catch up with this thread...is Jay/Ryannes show on every week? or do they have online archives.? d SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] New member Intro..
Hi Everyone, I just joined this community and wanted to tell you a little bit about myself. I am currently a graduate student at Stanford Business School. Before Stanford, I worked in the Xbox Division of Microsoft I worked on the business side, so was not a developer or game designer and can't tell you why you get that silly error on window's XP :) I am very passionate about consumer technology and digital media in particular. I am facinated by disruptive technolgies in media and esp how they are blowing up and re-defining the business models for everyone involved in content creation and distribution. I love devices such as tivo, Slingbox, Aikimbo and think podbasts, blogs, vlogs, etc are amazing! I am particularly interested in Video. DVR's have fallen below that critical pricepoint ($500), Bandwith is abundant, and compression technologies are finally coming of age. This means anyone can make a video, publish it online, and share their voice or story with billions of people! Okay, you know all of this stuff already, but I just wanted you to know that I get it too! Besides just enjoying reading everyones posts and learning more about vlogging, I will be graduating in a year and hoping to join a start up or even start my own company in this space. The more I know, the better I will be at evaluating new ideas. On a side note, I am interning this summer at new TV network called EXPO TV. I am helping them build out their Consumer Generated Video programming. I won't give a big marketing push now (that will come later :0) but you guys should def check it out. I don't know anyone who is doing what they are.. its pretty cool! Right now they are evening paying for online video submissions.. http://www.expotv.com/VideoIntro.aspx I don't have a vlog yet,mainly b/c I don't have time and am a little camera shy, but I have a great deal of respect for those that do. Hope everyone has a great weekend. I look forward to learning a ton from each of you! Please feel free to email me about whatever! Thanks anshelto YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Cell Phones and Meet The Vloggers Seattle (Aug. 6).
I'm looking forward to the Seattle event. Are any of you interested in coming out for this? Last I heard we had only a few vloggers, but it would be much better if there were a bunch of us there. We'd love to but the timing is off a week or two :) Something in Vancouver or Seattle in the future would be most do-able. -- ~Devlon http://8bitme.blogspot.com http://whiteguyforeignfoods.blogspot.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] 150 - Group Tipping Point?
First I wanted to post so that I have two this month, and will be counted in the group ... actually I wanted to point something out, that may be missing from all these conversations (though I'm sure others are thinking it). I love this group and I still get a lot out of it ... the positive, for me, still far outweighs the negative ... first of all, you can ignore the emotional/flame war threads if you want, but I admit I read them and watch my emotions and feel human and sort of enjoy it ... if nothing else what a great video Mel made that resulted from all the commotion ... I strongly recommend it, if you haven't seen it ... it's a classic ... http://melslife.org/archives/2005/07/20/dr-phil-can-you-please-help/ .. this video, to me, demonstrates a great attitude and perspective - by emphasizing the humor it diffuses all the built up drama our minds create - the thing is, none of it's real, it's just our minds, it's just life, it's funny, and we (including me) have an unfortunate tendency to identify with the drama our mind creates, rather than just watching and appreciating it ... ... anyway, this list is a bunch of very human humans, sure, but it's still great and I wouldn't think about un-subscribing for a second - unless I get kicked out for double posting and starting too many threads :) ... Richard, the Yahoo Vlog Group list lover On 7/22/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've heard of this... so, you feel that the group is undergoing some passive-aggressive social dilemma here? i think when a few people stir up things and amp up the noise level... people will get flustered... it ripples. those who enjoy interacting using this list will find it hard to restrain from responding to some postings their is also the ego element... even when you denounce the big ego, in doing so publicly, it is almost no different. people like to be witty... some get too nasty. gotta keep balance... stay tuned, always. the numbers are in the back of our head... we see how many posts are made and how many people join the group.. it can subconsciously hype you... and that leads to potential brazenness. it's also summer. and hot most places... known to be a player in amplifying craze in all of us. any extreme weather, actually. i think things are ok... we have experienced social spikes (for good or bad) here before way it is. we should remember that what we write is being portentially read by over 1000 people... are some playing for an audience or just looking to talk the vlog? we need more video summer of vlog yo.. and I gotta get my act together. maybe I will do a rant piece today... sull On 7/22/05, Michael Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I've been reading The Tipping Point by Malcom Gladwell which is a fascinating book. I just finished the chapter about groups of 150. For those of you who haven't read the book here's a quick summary of this idea via, http://tinyurl.com/45rhj THE MAGIC NUMBER 150 There seems to be some limitation built into us either by learning or by the design of the nervous systems, a limit that keeps our channel capacities in this general range (i.e. the human minds inability to comprehend things beyond sets 7) George Miller The Magical Number Seven The figure of 150 seems to represent the maximum number of individuals with whom we can have a genuinely social relationship, the kind of relationship that goes with knowing who they are and how they relate to us. Putting it another way, it's the number of people you would not feel embarrassed about joining uninvited for a drink if you happened to bump into them in a bar. Robin Dunbar, 1. Even relatively small increases in the size of a group [beyond 150] creates a significant additional social and intellectual burden. 2. The rule of 150 suggests that the size of a group is another one of those subtle contextual factors that can make a big difference. 3. Peer pressure is much more powerful than a concept of a boss 4. Transactive memory: we store information with other people. Since mental energy is limited, we concentrate on what we do best. 5. Groups of 150 are an organized mechanism that makes it far easier for new ideas and information moving around the organization to tip; to go from one person or one part of the group to the entire group all at once. So this got me thinking about how, it seems to me, the tone and demeanor of the group has altered in the last couple of weeks. Now I know this group is larger than 1000 people but most don't post at all. To me the group feels like a group of the people who post regularly. So I went back and counted how many people posted at least twice in the last month. My quick count - 145! Could it be that this group is reacting not to any individual or small group of posters but rather have we begun to reach the maximum number of
Re: [videoblogging] 150 - Group Tipping Point?
On Jul 22, 2005, at 10:17 AM, Michael Sullivan wrote: so, you feel that the group is undergoing some passive-aggressive social dilemma here? So for me, here's the point - when I joined this group at the end of November last year there were about 125 people in the group and probably 25-30 regular posters. It was intimate. It was like a small group of friends. To me it feels like it remained this intimate group of friends (though getting bigger every day) until about 6 or 8 weeks ago. Since then we've had a series of unpleasant events around E.L. Woody, 59 Bloggers, Adam Kontras, and Cheryl Shuman. I've definitely played a roll in this and have been trying to understand my own behavior and that of the group. At the same time I happen to be reading this book and notice a connection. I point it out only because I think that understanding something is the first part of gaining some facility for controlling it. I would love to see this group head back toward that feeling of an intimate group of friends rather than this kind of nasty free for all we kind of seem headed toward. So I point out this thing about 150 people just to say, maybe asking people to be more civil isn't going to be effective, maybe there is something else at work here. I don't have any answers. On Jul 22, 2005, at 10:47 AM, andrew michael baron wrote: The Magic Number being what any group 'tends' towards. With even 5000, perhaps, a fluxuating 145 will always speak up, and the rest, not Maybe we self regulate - I don't know. I dumped all my messages more than 6 weeks old so it's hard to count since I can't sort them in my mail program. One of the points in the book is that human groups often regulate their size by splitting into smaller groups. -Verdi http://michaelverdi.com http://freevlog.org YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] 150 - Group Tipping Point?
good points Eric Rice has posted an interesting video related to this http://blog.ericrice.com/blog/_archives/2005/7/21/1060030.html i think he's also speaking to all of us quite clearly markus andrew michael baron wrote: See here how all humans have problems and they come out QUITE CLEARLY in text, often more-so than in video! ... We all (150 at any time) do have these problems, Cheryl Shuman, I'm also talking to you. So take the cue from Ro, and get back here and lets stop all this nonsense and I look forward to seeing what everyone says about VIDEO! -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://spinflow.org http://spinsummer2005.blogspot.com http://spinsummer2005meetup.blogspot.com http://vloggercuewest.blogspot.com aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Amanda dancing in a Rocketboom episode
Well, I just have to say that I love Amanda's dancing ... of course, I'm a professional :) ... the OTHER Richard On 7/22/05, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently saw Amanda dancing in a Rocketboom episode. One question, did she take dancing lessons from Elaine Bennis (Seinfeld)? ; ) Richard Yahoo! Groups Links -- Richard http://www.richardshow.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: New member Intro..
Welcome Anshelto. This means anyone can make a video, publish it online, and share their voice or story with billions of people! Okay, you know all of this stuff already, but I just wanted you to know that I get it too! Yup, it's pretty exciting when you stop and think about all the potential out there. http://www.expotv.com/VideoIntro.aspx That's pretty cool. Wont be long before all sorts of places are asking for video submission like that. Rupert posted a cool link to channel 4 (http://www.channel4.com/fourdocs/) that you may be interested in looking at. They are taking lil' documentaries from people - another very cool site. and hoping to join a start up or even start my own company in this space. The more I know, the better I will be at evaluating new ideas. I'd love to do that too. (who wouldn't) Again there is alot of potential out there. Welcome aboard - and start vlogging! :-P - Dave YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] 150 - Group Tipping Point?
The problem is more about the value of the group. What it produces and how helpful it is for readers.It seems that it's going in all directions between newbies who just created a vlog and long timers who split hair about some obscure feature from a software used by 2 people. Maybe splitting the group in 3 or 4 groups with different purposes? Chris SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] 150 - Group Tipping Point?
And I forget all the narcissists who want to share with the world how their Auntie Claudia was great at their last BBQ. Chris SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Amanda dancing in a Rocketboom episode
Is there some stupid idiot who cares? Chris SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Categories
Hi, I'm still pretty new to all of this, so here's a beginner's question: A day or two ago someone mentioned having categories in his/her blog (sorry, I wasn't keeping notes). I use Blogger to post my entries and I don't see categories anywhere on the Blogger pages. Am I missing something or is this a feature that only more sophisticated blogging software has? Right now I have two blogs, one for clips and odd stuff and one that is about my experiences here in Mexico (DroppedFrames.blogspot.com and AGringoInMexico.blogspot.com), I gather that I'm splitting up my audience by not having just one blog with categories. Now, I'm lean towards the Michael Verdi I don't give a fuck if you watch or not school, but still I'd like to know if there is an easy way to add categories to my blog. By the way Michael, the Yin/Yang videos are classics. Jack YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Amanda dancing in a Rocketboom episode
No, the stupid idiots tend to not care.Sorry, shhhshhh andrew, s.Over,[unplug]On Jul 22, 2005, at 12:36 PM, Chris Baudry wrote: Is there some stupid idiot who cares? Chris SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Categories
hi, as far as I know, there is no support for categories in blogger typepad has it not sure what others do there was a posting of a blog feature comparison chart recently that might help if you want to search for it Jack Nelson wrote: use Blogger to post my entries and I don't see categories anywhere on the Blogger pages. Am I missing something or is this a feature that only more sophisticated blogging software has? -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://spinflow.org http://spinsummer2005.blogspot.com http://spinsummer2005meetup.blogspot.com http://vloggercuewest.blogspot.com aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Categories
On Jul 22, 2005, at 11:38 AM, Jack Nelson wrote: Am I missing something or is this a feature that only more sophisticated blogging software has? Right now I have two blogs, one for clips and odd stuff and one that is about my experiences here in Mexico (DroppedFrames.blogspot.com and AGringoInMexico.blogspot.com), Hey Jack, You're not missing anything - Blogger doesn't have categories. As far as having two blogs you can always cross post some stuff - tell one group of viewers about the other. Put links to the other blog and it's feed on each blog. If you want categories though, you'll have to get off blogger and spend a few dollars. I lot of videobloggers use WordPress, TypePad and Moveable Type. Check into those. -Verdi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Categories
OK, Thanks Michael. I've put links from blog to blog and I'm not gonna switch from Blogger for now at least; a combination of being cheap, lazy and not giving a damn. Jack On Jul 22, 2005, at 11:48 AM, Michael Verdi wrote: On Jul 22, 2005, at 11:38 AM, Jack Nelson wrote: Am I missing something or is this a feature that only more sophisticated blogging software has? Right now I have two blogs, one for clips and odd stuff and one that is about my experiences here in Mexico (DroppedFrames.blogspot.com and AGringoInMexico.blogspot.com), Hey Jack, You're not missing anything - Blogger doesn't have categories. As far as having two blogs you can always cross post some stuff - tell one group of viewers about the other. Put links to the other blog and it's feed on each blog. If you want categories though, you'll have to get off blogger and spend a few dollars. I lot of videobloggers use WordPress, TypePad and Moveable Type. Check into those. -Verdi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: 150 - Group Tipping Point?
sounds like you're talking about a forum, stephanie. that's a really good idea. yahoo groups are great for small groups but not so great for large ones. a forum structure would be very beneficial. also, every forum i've ever been on always has a social thread for off topic fun. it's important here to keep a lid on the socializing because of the structure of yahoo groups but i think it's important to be able to relax and get to know one another socially as well. anne http://8bitme.blogspot.com http://nopractice.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris, dude everyone on this list is a narcissist, to one degree or another. Anyway, some possible sub-groups that could evolve out of this one: 1) Vlogger-newbies: Make sure a core handful of old-timers spanning a broad range of technical expertise stay in the group and keep their eyes open to questions and help people out. 2) Vlogger-politics: Vlogs in the political sphere 3) Vlogger-press: Vlogs in their relationships with press/mass-media (ex: Cheryl's Hollywood insider types of vlogs, but also the Vlogging Press Kit) 4) Vlogger-legal: Legal issues/wrangles relating to vlogging (ex: a site reusing or distributing your work without permission or site hits, CC discussion, litigation, legislation, etc.) 5) Vlogger-tech: Talking about changes in technology, bleeding edge, etc. 6) Vlogger-compose: Discussion of the non-technical part of vlogs: public speaking, composition of the shot and the video, editing choices, movie length, etc. 7) Vlogger-chat: Side BS that has not much to do with vlogging, but is interesting nonetheless. And a possible 8th: Vlogger-reviews: People post commentary about the vlogs they're watching, or reviews of vlogs, just as long as it doesn't become a critique group or a recurring OMG, Verdi is teh bestest!!! (i.e., re-reviewing the same vlogs over and over and over). I think a 9th would eventually evolve, but probably not be called vlogger-, but rather cellvlogging for the video-camera-phone vloggers. --Stephanie SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] 150 - Group Tipping Point?
If we split out all of the tech guys, whose gonna help the newbies? I say do all of this a s a last resort. Jack, who is now well above two entries this month On Jul 22, 2005, at 11:54 AM, Stephanie Bryant wrote: Chris, dude everyone on this list is a narcissist, to one degree or another. Anyway, some possible sub-groups that could evolve out of this one: 1) Vlogger-newbies: Make sure a core handful of old-timers spanning a broad range of technical expertise stay in the group and keep their eyes open to questions and help people out. 5) Vlogger-tech: Talking about changes in technology, bleeding edge, etc. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: 150 - Group Tipping Point?
Oh man. I just wanted to point out a correlation I saw. I'm not sure that we need to break apart this group in a zillion pieces. We've had a number of discussions in the past about other groups and message boards and after a whole bunch of back and forth emails we come to the conclusion that we like this list the way it is (I think we've concluded this at least 3 times in the last 8 or 9 months). That's not to say that things don't change. There are several other lists - there is an RSS list, a business list, and a content list. I'm subscribed to the content list but there hasn't been an email there in months because they just end up here. FYI, Verdi On Jul 22, 2005, at 12:14 PM, David Meade wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway, some possible sub-groups that could evolve out of this one: 1) Vlogger-newbies: ... 2) Vlogger-politics: ... 3) Vlogger-press: ... 4) Vlogger-legal: ... 5) Vlogger-tech: ... 6) Vlogger-compose: ... Yeah, I was thinking the other day that this had grown large enough that a more forum-style board (where posts can be grouped into sub-topics) would be helpful. Maybe thats a good topic for vloggercon :-) SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] 150 - Group Tipping Point?
On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 18:54:16 +0200, Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway, some possible sub-groups that could evolve out of this one: And before someone goes out and creates all these groups keep these things in mind. - The forum vs. e-mail discussion has surfaced more than once. If you haven't been around that long it would be helpful to go back and read the old threads. - One split-off happened with the videoblogging_content group. The result was that many messages were cross posted between the two lists. What precautions do you propose so this won't happen again? - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: 150 - Group Tipping Point?
Heres my summary of the forum idea, incorporating some past points by various people: Forum idea good because: Better seperation of topics in all sorts of ways People can chat without causing the whole group too much traffic Good search facilities Scales up to more users/posts better than a single list User interface other features could be better than yahoo (or could be worse) Forum idea bad because: Some people like email and dont like forums (eg wont remember to go to forums) Some people dont want topics to split Some people Not everyone will rush to use the new forum and so this list may continue to be main hub of communication and the forum remains barren Someone has to host it/set it up (probably not a problem) Personally I favour forums but I wouldnt even try to convince peopel to switch unless the forum system used offered the ability for people to receive messages by email in an intuitive way, and the thing generally looked good and offered people feature incentives to switch, otherwise it may fail or split the community. Cheers Steve of Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 18:54:16 +0200, Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway, some possible sub-groups that could evolve out of this one: And before someone goes out and creates all these groups keep these things in mind. - The forum vs. e-mail discussion has surfaced more than once. If you haven't been around that long it would be helpful to go back and read the old threads. - One split-off happened with the videoblogging_content group. The result was that many messages were cross posted between the two lists. What precautions do you propose so this won't happen again? - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: 150 - Group Tipping Point?
It's an interesting study in sociology. I've been a member of the group since I think October of last year, and you do see a difference. Even though the numbers were steadily increasing, there wasn't much change in the way the members of the group communicated with one another. Then, yes, there did seem to be a spike - a tipping point - a bubbling over, or whatever you may want to call it. It's almost as if our brain cells can handle a fixed number of information. Like there is a certain line where realizing the similarities turns into noticing the differences. (...Wondering if this is how early settlers feel. How tribes form. How wars are started. How peace may be inevitable as long as we are human beings (this is where we should strive to rewire ourselves) talk about off-topic. :)) Forums have come up a number of times. It's coming up regularly now. Maybe it is a viable option at this point. I know I scan this list pretty fast, just to make sure I don't miss important info, but I don't feel as connected to it as I used to be. I belong to a couple of other forums and there is still a sense of community. You just feel like you're traveling from room to room, rather than trying to shout in a big convention hall. Maybe a forum could work symbiotically with the yahoo group. In any case, this group has been valuable to me as I learned to vlog. It would be a shame if other newcomers don't get to have the same experience of community. Z. http://smashface.com/vlog PS: Michael, if you're liking Tipping Point, you should also pick up Freakonomics and Blink. They are pretty good too. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: 150 - Group Tipping Point?
On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 19:52:56 +0200, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone has to host it/set it up (probably not a problem) It will become a problem. Bandwidth costs for high volume forums are not to be underestimated. Remember that there is a lot more fluff on a webforum than in an e-mail, and that every time someone wants to read a message in a forum the entire thread has to be loaded. And you left out the most important point. It is very hard to figure out what's new and what's old in a forum compared the a mailing list. There's a lot of clicking around and reading old messages to find the new ones. And forums are dumb in the sense that they will mark off all new messages are seen even if you just pop in for a second to read one new message. I cna think of a few ways to make forums more clever, but I'm not going to program a whole forum-package just for this (I also don't want to pay the bandwidth bills). - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: 150 - Group Tipping Point?
Wow. I meant how war may be inevitable... invitability of peace sounds better though... (...Wondering if this is how early settlers feel. How tribes form. How wars are started. How peace may be inevitable as long as we are human beings (this is where we should strive to rewire ourselves) talk about off-topic. :)) On vlogging/iTunes podcasting - here's an article: Is Apple Thwarting Independent Music Podcasters? Despite the widespread proliferation of podcasts through Apple's new iTunes version 4.9, it appears music podcasters that legally distribute independent music are being left behind and effectively locked out of the iTunes podcast directory, which is fast becoming the primary vehicle to find podcasts. http://musicpodcasting.org/ SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] 150 - Group Tipping Point?
On 7/22/05, Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And a possible 8th: Vlogger-reviews: People post commentary about the vlogs they're watching, or reviews of vlogs, just as long as it doesn't become a critique group or a recurring OMG, Verdi is teh bestest!!! (i.e., re-reviewing the same vlogs over and over and over) I'd love to see that group happen. One of the big things I use this group for is to find new stuff, but the deluge of messages makes that less likely. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] [reviews] dr-phil-can-you-please-help
On 7/22/05, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if nothing else what a great video Mel made that resulted from all the commotion ... I strongly recommend it, if you haven't seen it ... it's a classic ... http://melslife.org/archives/2005/07/20/dr-phil-can-you-please-help/ .. this video, to me, demonstrates a great attitude and perspective - by emphasizing the humor it diffuses all the built up drama our minds create - the thing is, none of it's real, it's just our minds, it's just life, it's funny, and we (including me) have an unfortunate tendency to identify with the drama our mind creates, rather than just watching and appreciating it ... That's a really funny video. I like it. I had a subconscious reaction that the video validated my experience hanging around the mail list. It was that feeling you get when something you're involved in is covered on television, something on the order of now it's real. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] [reviews] Eric Rice on communication
On 7/22/05, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: good points Eric Rice has posted an interesting video related to this http://blog.ericrice.com/blog/_archives/2005/7/21/1060030.html i think he's also speaking to all of us quite clearly Watching this, I was conscious of how much Eric's voice and body language were carrying the information. The thing he says is one thing -- you have to take the trouble to read well -- but his voice and body language communicate something additional -- this is important to me. If you only read his words, you might take them as stuffy. What the voice and body language do is help to understand the spirit behind the words, which is something else completely. There's a recursiveness to that, because if I only read the words and didn't have the video I'd probably fail to get the point, and the point is that getting the point takes work sometimes. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: 150 - Group Tipping Point?
I've been part of many on-line communities over the years, and (as has been mentioned here several times) there are a few common patterns that often happen. If you haven't already seen it, I strongly recommend reading Clay Shirky's A Group is its own Worst Enemy available at: http://www.shirky.com/writings/group_enemy.html This group, however, is a little bit special. Many on-line communities live or die solely on the written words that form them. If a divisive flame war erupts, there is little or no way to try and defuse it that won't be taken as an attack by at least some participants. We are special because we have another channel, a rich and powerful one that can shine a bright light and reveal the inadvertent assumptions and misconceptions of text for what they are - a pale shadow of real communication. We have video. Many people have described this group as very friendly, helpful and civilised. In my opinion, one of the most important reasons is simply that we have a culture of sharing ourselves on video. Has anyone else noticed that the recent flare-ups have happened at times when there also seemed to be a drop-off in personal, heart-on-sleeve videoblog posts? My suggestion is simple. If you feel strongly. If you want to tell someone how you feel. If you think someone has misunderstood something ... Make a video. -- Frank Carver http://www.makevideo.org.uk SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] [reviews] Eric Rice on communication
true. and on the contrary, as should equally be understood, the personality (voice and body language) also can influence the observer. this influence is how many powerful people gain followers. yet, everything they say can be totally wrong (whatever wrong is) or misleading and still, people will praise and support them... idolize even. this bleeds into the topic of brainwashing. if you have boring stiff Joe Schmo telling you something that is fundamentally correct and good... it can easily be dismissed and forgotten, and boring stiff joe schmo garners no respect and dies a lonely death. if you have energetic outgoing passionate Jonny O telling you of some off the wall rhetoric conspriacy theory bullshit he will be held up and feet kissed. to be repetitive in my babbles one must find the balance. both the preacher and the audience. this is rare. sullOn 7/22/05, Lucas Gonze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/22/05, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: good points Eric Rice has posted an interesting video related to this http://blog.ericrice.com/blog/_archives/2005/7/21/1060030.html i think he's also speaking to all of usquite clearlyWatching this, I was conscious of how much Eric's voice and bodylanguage were carrying the information.The thing he says is one thing -- you have to take the trouble to read well -- but his voiceand body language communicate something additional -- this isimportant to me.If you only read his words, you might take them as stuffy.What the voice and body language do is help to understand thespirit behind the words, which is something else completely.There's a recursiveness to that, because if I only read the words anddidn't have the video I'd probably fail to get the point, and the point is that getting the point takes work sometimes.Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com -is- The Videoblog Directoryhttp://interdigitate.com -is- my personal site SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: 150 - Group Tipping Point?
For what it's worth, I didn't suggest a forum, just proposed what a few sub-communities might be. I far prefer to read this list in my Gmail inbox, not on yet another website I have to check. And then Lucas comes along and just effortlessly implemented it without splitting into separate lists or forums or whatever: Subject line tags! Has the advantage of making topics/threads easily searchable and identifiable. I suggest that someone (else) standardize the tags, and that we all start using them ASAP. --Stephanie -- Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mortaine.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] I eat my own art snob words
Bre, When you said that about the lack of art in vlogs, I don't think you were necessarily dumb. You were expressing a viewpoint that we're unlikely to hear in here, and it's a valid one, even if we disagree with it. For better or worse, vlogs aren't going to be viewed in the Ivory Tower as Perfection for a while yet, and as individual vloggers, we need to decide how much we want into that tower, and how little we care. Thank you for raising the question, even if it put many on the defensive. I've already determined where my vlog fits in terms of art, and I'm comfortable with that. I hope that everyone looks at their vlogs and thinks about how they want to relate to art as a discipline and not as just something that happens. --Stephanie -- Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mortaine.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] [tech] Blogger external link (was:Hi from a Newbie)
On 7/21/05, ro9core [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And don't put your video file in the place marked 'External Link' on blogger. Hope this helps, Why not? That's what feedburner says to do to get it enclosed! --Stephanie -- Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mortaine.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] A content challenge to other vloggers
I just posted an entry entitled 'What happens in your neighbourhood at 2 in the morning' ( http://chrisnolan.ca/archive/ID/525 ). I put out the challenge to others to show me what your neighbourhoods are like at that time of the day. Anybody up to it? Chris Nolan.ca http://chrisnolan.ca/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: A content challenge to other vloggers
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Chris Nolan.ca [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just posted an entry entitled 'What happens in your neighbourhood at 2 in the morning' ( http://chrisnolan.ca/archive/ID/525 ). I put out the challenge to others to show me what your neighbourhoods are like at that time of the day. Oooh this will be fun. I'll do it! - Dave http://www.davidmeade.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: iTunes storage of XML?
Perhaps. H. If I was writing an RSS reader I would think that I would keep the original xml around somewhere until a refresh happened... Apple thinking differently? --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Chris Nolan.ca [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it does seem to have it parsed out and included in the usual 'iTunes Music Library.xml' file. Maybe it doesn't cache it at all and just converts it directly to it's native format? Chris Nolan.ca http://ChrisNolan.ca/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Amanda dancing in a Rocketboom episode
Or some STUPID IDIOT that doesn't? == Richard On 7/22/05 1:14 PM, Chris Baudry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there some stupid idiot who cares? YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: 150 - Group Tipping Point?
I had to stop reading the list for awhile, but I kept subscribing through gmail. I don't know if the list has become unmanagable because it consists of more people than the human brain can handle, but maybe some guidelines Maybe it would be useful to propose some guidelines for posting. For example, in this post alone, I counted the at least seven different topics, including the original; the Tipping Point proposes a maximum of 150 people in a cohesive social group: we should split the list; there should be a forum; members should practice civility; some people use gmail to view the conversation; iTunes may be thwarting independent videoblog and podcast producers; a link to the common patterns in online communities. It would be helpful (especially for those using gmail) if the topics of replies matched the subject of the original message. Another thing I've noticed is that some people post multiple messages in very short periods of time. Sorry to pick on you, Michael, but you started the topic with a post at 10:46am, then posted again at 11:59am and 1:42pm. If everyone who posts waits 24 hours before replying again on a subject, maybe we'd see some different viewpoints. This may be difficult, as the list changes so much in 24 hours that the subject you were discussing the previous day may be old and feel like yesterday's news by the time you discuss it again. Maybe this is another undesireable quality of online communication. In Saving Digital History, Jason Scott says the golden age is when you first started using something (http://tinyurl.com/cosp3, 28:00). For example, for Jay and Peter, the golden age of the list was when it was first started, very small, with a group of their immediate friends. For others who joined in November, it is when there were 30-40 regular vloggers who posted often. For those who joined a few months ago, it was when E.L. Woody was making a stink (I remember reading an Anti blog post that said he thought it was cool E.L. was mixing things up on the list). So I think that rather than changing drastically a few weeks ago, I think the list has been in a status of constant change, and will continue to be. As for an answer, I've been meaning to summarize the list everyday on videoblogging.info. However, as this would be an entirely volunteer effort, I keep procrastinating... --Yves YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vlogs As TV
On 7/22/05, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Suppose you could submit a video comment to a video that you watched on your TV? Does it then become a vlog? Not really. You're lacking important aspects. Like a permalink. If I can't link to you, you're not a part of the network and then you're most definitely not a videoblog. If I'm able to watch it over IP, it's out there on a network somewhere, and has some sort of address. That being the case, linking, or something like it, shouldn't be hard to accomplish. You've got to have some sort of directory/catalog/guide, and people have to be able to find things in it, so being able to somehow link and recommend would seem to follow naturally. As long as you don't insist on the frame of an HTML page, I don't see why the linking and commenting aspects of vlogs/blogs couldn't be accomodated on a TV. -- best regards, Deirdré Straughan www.straughan.com (personal) www.tvblob.com (work) YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: watch YOU tonight!
lol, west coast is Pacific, and I think it's currently 3 hours earlier than you easterners. On 7/22/05, ryanne hodson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah we're on every thursday 1130 pm eastern standard time here what do you guys call time over there? did i graduate college? - On 7/22/05, duncan speakman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i was too slow to catch up with this thread...is Jay/Ryannes show on every week? or do they have online archives.? d Yahoo! Groups Links -- ~Ryanne Hodson~ Start a Free Videoblog...Right Now freevlog.org -- -transcending traditional media- http://ryanedit.blogspot.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~Devlon http://8bitme.blogspot.com http://whiteguyforeignfoods.blogspot.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] [reviews] Eric Rice on communication
On 7/22/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if you have energetic outgoing passionate Jonny O telling you of some off the wall rhetoric conspriacy theory bullshit he will be held up and feet kissed. Hm. Good point. Steve Garfield's stuff jumps out of the monitor in a way that a text blog doesn't, and now I realize it's because of his energetic body language. By the way, the world will end in 94 seconds. I know this is true because Steve said so. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: watch YOU tonight!
On 7/22/05, duncan speakman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i was too slow to catch up with this thread...is Jay/Ryannes show on every week? or do they have online archives.? yeah, does YOU have archives online? is there a YOU web page? yes I am demanding. --Yves SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: watch YOU tonight!
jay taped every episode he did since the beginning with just calls so yeah there is an archive we only have a couple on tape from when i started. -ry On 7/22/05, uwriteto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/22/05, duncan speakman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i was too slow to catch up with this thread...is Jay/Ryannes show on every week? or do they have online archives.? yeah, does YOU have archives online? is there a YOU web page? yes I am demanding. --Yves Yahoo! Groups Links -- ~Ryanne Hodson~ Start a Free Videoblog...Right Now freevlog.org -- -transcending traditional media- http://ryanedit.blogspot.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: watch YOU tonight!
Good place for a plug: The weekly Saturday Video Conference room is reserved from noon-2pm PDT that's 3pm EDT for those on the east coast, college educated or not ;) btw, there's a timezone calculator link on the wiki last Saturday the electrik verdi came loose, electrified a few participants and a good time was had by all this image stands out in my mind: http://photos23.flickr.com/27851780_d193a260bb_o.jpg sat conference room: http://flash.kmi.open.ac.uk:8080/flashmeetings/220/1319/ wiki: http://www.voxmedia.org/wiki/Videoblogger_Videoconferences Devlon wrote: lol, west coast is Pacific, and I think it's currently 3 hours earlier than you easterners. On 7/22/05, ryanne hodson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah we're on every thursday 1130 pm eastern standard time here what do you guys call time over there? did i graduate college? -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://spinflow.org http://spinsummer2005.blogspot.com http://spinsummer2005meetup.blogspot.com http://vloggercuewest.blogspot.com aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: watch YOU tonight!
Thanks for the reminder Markus, I keep missing these. On 7/22/05, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good place for a plug: The weekly Saturday Video Conference room is reserved from noon-2pm PDT that's 3pm EDT for those on the east coast, college educated or not ;) btw, there's a timezone calculator link on the wiki last Saturday the electrik verdi came loose, electrified a few participants and a good time was had by all this image stands out in my mind: http://photos23.flickr.com/27851780_d193a260bb_o.jpg sat conference room: http://flash.kmi.open.ac.uk:8080/flashmeetings/220/1319/ wiki: http://www.voxmedia.org/wiki/Videoblogger_Videoconferences Devlon wrote: lol, west coast is Pacific, and I think it's currently 3 hours earlier than you easterners. On 7/22/05, ryanne hodson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah we're on every thursday 1130 pm eastern standard time here what do you guys call time over there? did i graduate college? -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://spinflow.org http://spinsummer2005.blogspot.com http://spinsummer2005meetup.blogspot.com http://vloggercuewest.blogspot.com aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~Devlon http://8bitme.blogspot.com http://whiteguyforeignfoods.blogspot.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: iTunes storage of XML?
Look in the iTunes Music Library.xml file (inside your iTunes directory). You should find the xml - for files that have been downloaded - is stored like: key6499/key dict keyTrack ID/keyinteger6499/integer keyName/keystringScooter Club/string keyAlbum/keystringRant 24/7/string keyGenre/keystringPodcast/string keyKind/keystringQuickTime movie file/string keySize/keyinteger7037504/integer keyTotal Time/keyinteger158692/integer keyDate Modified/keydate2005-06-30T04:09:37Z/date keyDate Added/keydate2005-06-30T04:09:37Z/date keyArtwork Count/keyinteger1/integer keyTrack Type/keystringFile/string keyLocation/keystringfile://localhost/Users/ josh.paul/Music/iTunes/iTunes%20Music/Podcasts/Rant%2024_7/Scooter% 20Club.mov/string keyFile Folder Count/keyinteger4/integer keyLibrary Folder Count/keyinteger1/integer /dict For those that haven't been downloaded...haven't found 'em yet. Possibly in the iTunes Library (stored as a proprietary file). - josh On Jul 22, 2005, at 3:48 PM, t.whid wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I see your point. Perhaps I'm just used to using NNW which allows one to examine the XML. Then, if there is an issue, the clever monkey could perhaps examine it and see what the issue is. Sure, you can always hit the url with another app (browser), but it's nice to have that feature built-in. Sometimes I like to see exactly what my app is parsing into it's DB, plist, etc. I'll need to poke around some more, I'm curious as to how iTunes marks-up the as-yet- downloaded files in the library. Take care, Why keep the orig XML around if you can parse, drop values into pList or Database, and be done with it? -josh On 7/22/05, t.whid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps. H. If I was writing an RSS reader I would think that I would keep the original xml around somewhere until a refresh happened... Apple thinking differently? --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Chris Nolan.ca [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it does seem to have it parsed out and included in the usual 'iTunes Music Library.xml' file. Maybe it doesn't cache it at all and just converts it directly to it's native format? Chris Nolan.ca http://ChrisNolan.ca/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
[videoblogging] Enclosures
Question... Enclosures only work with one type of media per enclosure correct? Example: say I had a vlog entry that had text with two links in it. The links would play a clip of video that pertained to the text. It would play in a 'div' in the post with all media in the post playing in the same 'div'. This entry wouldn't really work for rss aggregators that used the enclosure tag to find the media link...since there would actually be more than one piece of media for that one enclosure...correct? Anne and I were doing some talking and reading last night about text and video/audio/images as one post, where the text and media would mean nothing unless they were all 'viewed' together...but I don't think the current rss model for distribution would handle this -- ~Devlon http://8bitme.blogspot.com http://whiteguyforeignfoods.blogspot.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Enclosures
FireANT always shows content of blog entry along with the playing media. The blog entry is really a meta-data package that includes several elements: - title - date - description (body of entry) - permalink - enclosure (media file) - etc All of these should be viewed together, this is the granular unit. Dislocating one element from another no longer makes it a a whole unit. -Josh On 7/22/05, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Question... Enclosures only work with one type of media per enclosure correct? Example: say I had a vlog entry that had text with two links in it. The links would play a clip of video that pertained to the text. It would play in a 'div' in the post with all media in the post playing in the same 'div'. This entry wouldn't really work for rss aggregators that used the enclosure tag to find the media link...since there would actually be more than one piece of media for that one enclosure...correct? Anne and I were doing some talking and reading last night about text and video/audio/images as one post, where the text and media would mean nothing unless they were all 'viewed' together...but I don't think the current rss model for distribution would handle this -- ~Devlon http://8bitme.blogspot.com http://whiteguyforeignfoods.blogspot.com Yahoo! Groups Links YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Enclosures
Thanks Josh, but what if there were multiple media elements in the blog, would one want to use multiple enclosures? Would FireAnt handle that? I agree with you on not dislocating the elements. On 7/22/05, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FireANT always shows content of blog entry along with the playing media. The blog entry is really a meta-data package that includes several elements: - title - date - description (body of entry) - permalink - enclosure (media file) - etc All of these should be viewed together, this is the granular unit. Dislocating one element from another no longer makes it a a whole unit. -Josh -- ~Devlon http://8bitme.blogspot.com http://whiteguyforeignfoods.blogspot.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Enclosures
I agree, the more fluid the tools are the more options one has to create thier content. Thanks for the link :) On 7/22/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mediaRSS can help here. technically, rss readers could handle multiple enclosures, they just dont normally. i know fireant accepts media rss so you might want to experiment with it. i think it is important for tools to properly handle mixed media blogging too. sull -- ~Devlon http://8bitme.blogspot.com http://whiteguyforeignfoods.blogspot.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: A content challenge to other vloggers
Too bad the full moon was last night...might've made for some interesting footage ;) The high-school kids get pretty rowdy around my place at night. On 7/22/05, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Chris Nolan.ca [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just posted an entry entitled 'What happens in your neighbourhood at 2 in the morning' ( http://chrisnolan.ca/archive/ID/525 ). I put out the challenge to others to show me what your neighbourhoods are like at that time of the day. Oooh this will be fun. I'll do it! - Dave http://www.davidmeade.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~Devlon http://8bitme.blogspot.com http://whiteguyforeignfoods.blogspot.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] 93 year old vlogger
Okay, so that is a bit of an exageration. But I decided to start including my weekly videos of grandpa in my vlog (instead of making him his own.) We do a virtual event via webcam every Tuesday and I just started taping it. Since I think everyone should meet my grandpa, I wanted to share the latest episode. :) http://www.SpreadingThePink.com Hope your weekend is filled with sunshine, -Halcyon www.Spreadingthepink.com www.cockybastard.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Toronto Meetup this Sunday, the 24th of July
Most likely downtown, Phil from swordfight.org is driving here from out of town, and I'm hoping all the .ca vloggers will crawl out of the woodwork. Give me a call at 647-880-9767, or just email me [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ro YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
