Using Vim on the iPad

2019-06-04 Thread Eric Weir
Today’s NYT had an article about changes announced by Apple on Monday had a section on efforts to make the iPad a serious work computer. I read eagerly, hoping to learn that Apple was easing up on its sandboxing restrictions. Alas, no changes along that line were among those announced.

Re: Vim on the iPad

2013-04-03 Thread Eric Weir
On Mar 20, 2013, at 8:22 AM, Jeroen Budts wrote: 2) Cut and paste between apps on Android is very easy. Tap-and-hold a piece of text and a small toolbar pops-up where you can select cut/copy. Then in another app you can tap-and-hold in a textfield and a paste button will show up. In Vimtouch

Re: Vim on the iPad

2013-04-03 Thread stosss
Hi Eric, That is one of the very reasons that the Open Source Software community came about. There are hundreds of thousands (maybe several million by now) of people that disagree with the proprietary corporate ways of locking and controlling what you can and can't do on a computer. Apple almost

Re: Vim on the iPad

2013-03-20 Thread Eric Weir
is an enhanced virtual keyboard, one that has the keys needed to run Vim efficiently, like the Hacker's Keyboard for Android. Preferably one that's not app-specific, that could replace the default iPad keyboard. (There are lots of them for Android.) I also have Vim on the iPad from the app store

Re: Vim on the iPad

2013-03-20 Thread Jeroen Budts
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 03/20/2013 01:06 PM, Eric Weir wrote: On Mar 18, 2013, at 2:29 PM, MickMcQ m...@umich.edu wrote: Three necessities that'd cause me to go to any length to get it if they were met: (1) an appropriate keyboard, (2) cut and paste between apps,

Re: Vim on the iPad

2013-03-20 Thread Eric Weir
On Mar 20, 2013, at 8:22 AM, Jeroen Budts wrote: (3) The latest Vimtouch release (2.3, released yesterday) now uses some standaard Android interface to open files which let you choose files from other apps. This even allows you to immediately select a file from your Dropbox. A really nice

Re: Vim on the iPad

2013-03-18 Thread MickMcQ
have Vim on the iPad from the app store. It is actually being developed as far as I can tell. You simply have to download it from github and compile it yourself to get new features, such as the iPhone 5 screen adjustment. I believe that a number of people have modified the code for their own use

Re: Vim on the iPad

2013-03-10 Thread Zulox4
Hello, I have start looking the iOS appstore version some month ago, without the control key (also it have some bugs) it's nearly unusable. Now I use a modified iOS version, I added Control key, Escape key, Tab key using Ctrl-I , html help files, gesture for Ctrl-], Ctrl-T for help text

Re: Vim on the iPad

2013-03-10 Thread Eric Weir
On Mar 9, 2013, at 3:31 PM, Benjamin Klein wrote: On Mar 9, 2013, at 2:23 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: At $200, I'm tempted by the Nexus 7 simply to run Vim, or rather, VimTouch. I myself am likely to jailbreak an iOS device instead. I came across references to jailbroken

Re: Vim on the iPad

2013-03-10 Thread Eric Weir
On Mar 10, 2013, at 12:58 AM, Zulox4 wrote: Now I use a modified iOS version, I added Control key, Escape key, Tab key using Ctrl-I , html help files, gesture for Ctrl-], Ctrl-T for help text navigation. I have a problem with shift-Tab or shift-Ctrl-I completion, and it's difficult to

Re: Vim on the iPad

2013-03-10 Thread Benjamin Klein
On Mar 10, 2013, at 8:24 AM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: I came across references to jailbroken devices running hotter. Is that true? Why would that be? I've only ever done it to my phone, but it did not run noticeably warmer when I did. I haven't heard that they might do that,

Re: Vim on the iPad

2013-03-10 Thread David Sanson
I assume he means that he has modified the iOS version of Vim that is on GitHub. If you pay the $99 to be a member of the iOS Developer Program, you can build and install apps to your own device for testing purposes, but you can't distribute the built app except through the App Store. So he

Re: Vim on the iPad

2013-03-10 Thread Zulox4
On Sunday, March 10, 2013 2:28:06 PM UTC+1, Eric Weir wrote: On Mar 10, 2013, at 12:58 AM, Zulox4 wrote: Now I use a modified iOS version, I added Control key, Escape key, Tab key using Ctrl-I , html help files, gesture for Ctrl-], Ctrl-T for help text navigation. I have a problem

Re: Vim on the iPad

2013-03-10 Thread Tim Chase
On 2013-03-10 11:10, Eric Weir wrote: And just to make sure, cli means not gui? CLI = Command Line Interface GUI = Graphical User Interface -tim -- -- You received this message from the vim_use maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For more

Re: Vim on the iPad

2013-03-10 Thread Eric Weir
On Mar 10, 2013, at 1:30 PM, Zulox4 wrote: On Sunday, March 10, 2013 2:28:06 PM UTC+1, Eric Weir wrote: That aside, Is your solution something that could be shared with others? Yes. I could share for testing but I have a limited number of device. I'm a member of the Developer Program, i

Re: Vim on the iPad

2013-03-10 Thread Zulox4
Have you checked out the VimTouch app for Android? Don't mean to be presumptuous, but if not you might get some ideas/help from it. No. I don't checked, i haven't any device to test. But vim-cocoa, has some code that may be adapted to iOS. Best Regards ! Regards,

Re: Vim on the iPad

2013-03-10 Thread Jeroen Budts
On 03/09/2013 09:23 PM, Eric Weir wrote: On Mar 8, 2013, at 7:19 AM, Jeroen Budts wrote: On 03/08/2013 02:39 AM, Eric Weir wrote: On Mar 7, 2013, at 3:39 PM, Jeroen Budts jer...@lightyear.be wrote: I use Hacker's Keyboard daily on my Nexus 7 btw. Together with VimTouch and my entire

Re: Vim on the iPad

2013-03-10 Thread Eric Weir
On Mar 10, 2013, at 6:19 PM, Jeroen Budts jer...@lightyear.be wrote: At $200, I'm tempted by the Nexus 7 simply to run Vim, or rather, VimTouch. You speak of using the Hacker's Keyboard on it. Isn't that awfully cramped? When you hold the tablet in landscape it is very doable. In portrait

Re: Vim on the iPad

2013-03-09 Thread Eric Weir
On Mar 8, 2013, at 7:19 AM, Jeroen Budts wrote: On 03/08/2013 02:39 AM, Eric Weir wrote: On Mar 7, 2013, at 3:39 PM, Jeroen Budts jer...@lightyear.be wrote: I use Hacker's Keyboard daily on my Nexus 7 btw. Together with VimTouch and my entire Vim config (which I could just copy over to

Re: Vim on the iPad

2013-03-09 Thread Benjamin Klein
On Mar 9, 2013, at 2:23 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: At $200, I'm tempted by the Nexus 7 simply to run Vim, or rather, VimTouch. I myself am likely to jailbreak an iOS device instead. It is sad that there is no way to really make use of Vim apart from jailbreaking, but it is so by

Re: Vim on the iPad

2013-03-08 Thread Eric Weir
On Mar 7, 2013, at 11:46 PM, AK wrote: I can't understand how people can use touch keyboard for anything more than 5-8 characters at a time like typing in a url or something like that. i've gotten used to it. And pretty quickly. And I like not having to lug around a bluetooth, though I know

Re: Vim on the iPad

2013-03-08 Thread Jeroen Budts
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 03/08/2013 02:39 AM, Eric Weir wrote: On Mar 7, 2013, at 3:39 PM, Jeroen Budts jer...@lightyear.be wrote: I use Hacker's Keyboard daily on my Nexus 7 btw. Together with VimTouch and my entire Vim config (which I could just copy over to

Re: Vim on the iPad

2013-03-08 Thread Jeroen Budts
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 03/08/2013 02:39 AM, Eric Weir wrote: On Mar 7, 2013, at 3:39 PM, Jeroen Budts jer...@lightyear.be wrote: I use Hacker's Keyboard daily on my Nexus 7 btw. Together with VimTouch and my entire Vim config (which I could just copy over to

Re: Vim on the iPad

2013-03-08 Thread Jeroen Budts
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 03/08/2013 05:46 AM, AK wrote: On 12/30/2012 02:33 PM, Jeroen Budts wrote: On 12/30/2012 07:26 PM, Eric Weir wrote: I'm likely to purchase an iPad soon and I'm wondering if there have been any developments since the discussion here back in

Re: Vim on the iPad

2013-03-08 Thread Eric Weir
On Mar 8, 2013, at 7:19 AM, Jeroen Budts jer...@lightyear.be wrote: Addendum: the developer of VimTouch is also very actively working on the project and very quick to respond. A few weeks ago both me and another VimTouch user asked for 256 color support (only 8 colors where available) and a

Re: Vim on the iPad

2013-03-07 Thread Eric Weir
Hacker's Keyboard for Google Nexus tablets. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.pocketworkstation.pckeyboardfeature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsIm9yZy5wb2NrZXR3b3Jrc3RhdGlvbi5wY2tleWJvYXJkIl0.

Re: Vim on the iPad

2013-03-07 Thread stosss
On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hacker's Keyboard for Google Nexus tablets. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.pocketworkstation.pckeyboardfeature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsIm9yZy5wb2NrZXR3b3Jrc3RhdGlvbi5wY2tleWJvYXJkIl0. The app

Re: Vim on the iPad

2013-03-07 Thread Jeroen Budts
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 03/07/2013 09:12 PM, stosss wrote: On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hacker's Keyboard for Google Nexus tablets.

Re: Vim on the iPad

2013-03-07 Thread Eric Weir
On Mar 7, 2013, at 3:39 PM, Jeroen Budts jer...@lightyear.be wrote: I use Hacker's Keyboard daily on my Nexus 7 btw. Together with VimTouch and my entire Vim config (which I could just copy over to the tablet, no special tricks required, unlike another unnamed tablet device discussed here

Re: Vim on the iPad

2013-03-07 Thread stosss
On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 8:39 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: On Mar 7, 2013, at 3:39 PM, Jeroen Budts jer...@lightyear.be wrote: I use Hacker's Keyboard daily on my Nexus 7 btw. Together with VimTouch and my entire Vim config (which I could just copy over to the tablet, no special

Re: Vim on the iPad

2013-03-07 Thread David Sanson
I recently gave in and jailbroke my iPad2, and was able to install cli versions of vim, git, etc, without too much trouble. The binaries available in the default cydia repos are outdated, but the binaries in [radare's repo] are fairly recent (the vim build doesn't include python or ruby

Re: Vim on the iPad

2013-03-07 Thread AK
On 12/30/2012 02:33 PM, Jeroen Budts wrote: On 12/30/2012 07:26 PM, Eric Weir wrote: I'm likely to purchase an iPad soon and I'm wondering if there have been any developments since the discussion here back in September. http://groups.google.com/group/vim_use/browse_frm/month/2012-09 At that

Vim app for iPad

2013-01-04 Thread Eric Weir
I changed the subject heading to focus the discussion of Vim on the iPad more specifically on the Vim app for the iPad. I hesitate in posting my musings on this topic [1] because I am not in a position myself to do much about them. [2] They may just be completely off-the-wall unrealistic

Re: Vim app for iPad

2013-01-04 Thread Eric Weir
Discussion of Vim on the iPad on the vim_use list led me to post the following about the existing Vim app for the iPad. I'm forwarding it hear in case anyone here might have thoughts on the topic. I'm wondering if developing this app into a genuinely useful app on the iPad might

Re: Vim on the iPad

2013-01-03 Thread David Sanson
I've made no progress on this, for what it is worth. SSH-ing into a server from Prompt.app and using an Apple Bluetooth keyboard works fine---including support for the ESC key. But, at least on the server I have easy access to, it is laggy, so I don't do it. I still haven't tried the

Re: Vim on the iPad

2013-01-03 Thread Eric Weir
On Dec 31, 2012, at 2:43 PM, stosss wrote: Eric, you have a lot more flexibility with Android than you do with ipad. My computer runs Linux and my phone runs Android and my nook runs Android. I can do the same things on both the nook and the phone. I have not attempted to run Vim on either.

Re: Vim on the iPad

2013-01-03 Thread Eric Weir
On Jan 3, 2013, at 3:58 AM, David Sanson wrote: I've made no progress on this, for what it is worth. SSH-ing into a server from Prompt.app and using an Apple Bluetooth keyboard works fine---including support for the ESC key. But, at least on the server I have easy access to, it is laggy,

Re: Vim on the iPad

2013-01-03 Thread Alexandre Provencio
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: On Jan 3, 2013, at 3:58 AM, David Sanson wrote: I've made no progress on this, for what it is worth. SSH-ing into a server from Prompt.app and using an Apple Bluetooth keyboard works fine---including support for the ESC

Re: Vim on the iPad

2013-01-03 Thread Eric Weir
On Jan 3, 2013, at 12:59 PM, Alexandre Provencio wrote: Another worth approach for android in a near future (I hope) is Ubuntu's phone solutions, like this one http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android, so you can have not only vim but all linux native packages. Very interesting. With a tablet

Re: Vim on the iPad

2013-01-02 Thread Eric Weir
with jailbreaking — but there are plenty of power user types that decide to not do that, and it probably would require a bit of hacker-type setup to be able to comfortably use Vim on a jailbroken iPad with files etc. managed by hand through the filesystem. I was just curious, Benjamin. Even with *a lot

Re: Vim on the iPad

2013-01-02 Thread Eric Weir
with jailbreaking — but there are plenty of power user types that decide to not do that, and it probably would require a bit of hacker-type setup to be able to comfortably use Vim on a jailbroken iPad with files etc. managed by hand through the filesystem. I was just curious, Benjamin. Even with *a lot

Re: Vim on the iPad

2012-12-31 Thread Eric Weir
On Dec 30, 2012, at 5:37 PM, Benjamin Klein wrote: Eric: Yes, this seems to be about the only practical method (short of jailbreaking) by which we currently can use Vim on an iPad: an external keyboard for input and a remote server (something other than your actual local filesystem

Re: Vim on the iPad

2012-12-31 Thread David Turetsky
On Dec 31, 2012, at 9:35 AM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: On Dec 30, 2012, at 5:37 PM, Benjamin Klein wrote: Eric: Yes, this seems to be about the only practical method (short of jailbreaking) by which we currently can use Vim on an iPad: an external keyboard for input

Re: Vim on the iPad

2012-12-31 Thread Benjamin Klein
require a bit of hacker-type setup to be able to comfortably use Vim on a jailbroken iPad with files etc. managed by hand through the filesystem. Be warned that I have never used an Android device. :} However from what I have read it seems that although there is no native Android file browser

Re: Vim on the iPad

2012-12-31 Thread stosss
— but there are plenty of power user types that decide to not do that, and it probably would require a bit of hacker-type setup to be able to comfortably use Vim on a jailbroken iPad with files etc. managed by hand through the filesystem. Be warned that I have never used an Android device. :} However

Vim on the iPad

2012-12-30 Thread Eric Weir
I'm likely to purchase an iPad soon and I'm wondering if there have been any developments since the discussion here back in September. http://groups.google.com/group/vim_use/browse_frm/month/2012-09 At that time absence of the escape and control keys, lack of a file system, and getting files

Re: Vim on the iPad

2012-12-30 Thread Jeroen Budts
On 12/30/2012 07:26 PM, Eric Weir wrote: I'm likely to purchase an iPad soon and I'm wondering if there have been any developments since the discussion here back in September. http://groups.google.com/group/vim_use/browse_frm/month/2012-09 At that time absence of the escape and control keys,

Re: Vim on the iPad

2012-12-30 Thread Chris Schneider
Vim is usable on a remote server with my ipad external keyboard. I use `prompt` to ssh up to a remote server I own and then just attach to tmux from there. Specifically I use a logitech ultrathin keyboard case. It works well enough, but there's no explicit esc key, so you need to get used to

Re: Vim on the iPad

2012-12-30 Thread Eric Weir
On Dec 30, 2012, at 3:40 PM, Chris Schneider wrote: Vim is usable on a remote server with my ipad external keyboard. I use `prompt` to ssh up to a remote server I own and then just attach to tmux from there. Specifically I use a logitech ultrathin keyboard case. It works well enough,

Re: Vim on the iPad

2012-12-30 Thread Benjamin Klein
case. It works well enough, but there's no explicit esc key, so you need to get used to using ctrl-[ instead. Not that big of a deal if you do it often enough. Eric: Yes, this seems to be about the only practical method (short of jailbreaking) by which we currently can use Vim on an iPad