Re: [vintagvw] Dual Relief Case/Oil Cooler Explanation
Ray, It is in the factory vw repair manuals. Nice picture that explains very well. Basically, most of the oil skips th oil cooler when cold. Cheers, dave On Sat, 13 Feb 2010, rayvw...@aol.com wrote: Hi All, I am trying to explain to a friend how the dual relief case works inconjunction with the oil cooler on a Type 1 motor. I recall at somepoint someone had a diagram of how the oil flowed when cold and hot. Anyone seen that or have a link to that diagram? Thanks Ray ___ vintagvw site list vintagvw@lists.sjsu.edu http://lists.sjsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vintagvw ___ vintagvw site list vintagvw@lists.sjsu.edu http://lists.sjsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vintagvw
Re: [vintagvw] Dual Relief Case/Oil Cooler Explanation
Ray, See if this gives you what you are looking for. http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=113675 Bill rayvw...@aol.com wrote: Hi All, I am trying to explain to a friend how the dual relief case works inconjunction with the oil cooler on a Type 1 motor. I recall at somepoint someone had a diagram of how the oil flowed when cold and hot. Anyone seen that or have a link to that diagram? Thanks Ray ___ vintagvw site list vintagvw@lists.sjsu.edu http://lists.sjsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vintagvw ___ vintagvw site list vintagvw@lists.sjsu.edu http://lists.sjsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vintagvw
[vintagvw] Dual Relief Case/Oil Cooler Explanation
Hi All, I am trying to explain to a friend how the dual relief case works inconjunction with the oil cooler on a Type 1 motor. I recall at somepoint someone had a diagram of how the oil flowed when cold and hot. Anyone seen that or have a link to that diagram? Thanks Ray ___ vintagvw site list vintagvw@lists.sjsu.edu http://lists.sjsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vintagvw
Re: [vintagvw] Dual Relief Case/Oil Cooler Explanation
Thanks everyone!! I should have looked in my Bentley first, but thought I saw it online. Ray -Original Message- From: Dave C. Bolen dbo...@shockwaverider.com To: Air-Cooled Volkswagen Discussion List vintagvw@lists.sjsu.edu Sent: Sun, Feb 14, 2010 9:29 am Subject: Re: [vintagvw] Dual Relief Case/Oil Cooler Explanation Ray, It is in the factory vw repair manuals. Nice picture that explains very well. Basically, most of the oil skips th oil cooler when cold. Cheers, dave On Sat, 13 Feb 2010, rayvw...@aol.com wrote: Hi All, I am trying to explain to a friend how the dual relief case works inconjunction with the oil cooler on a Type 1 motor. I recall at somepoint someone had a diagram of how the oil flowed when cold and hot. Anyone seen that or have a link to that diagram? Thanks Ray ___ vintagvw site list vintagvw@lists.sjsu.edu http://lists.sjsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vintagvw ___ vintagvw site list vintagvw@lists.sjsu.edu http://lists.sjsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vintagvw ___ vintagvw site list vintagvw@lists.sjsu.edu http://lists.sjsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vintagvw
Re: [vintagvw] 67 tail light help
Sounds like a bad ground. If I recall correctly the taillight grounds to the body, does not have a separate ground wire back there. Clean the area where the housing touches the body and re-tighten the screw. Ray -Original Message- From: Rob Garretson mrgarre...@aol.com To: vintagvw@lists.sjsu.edu Sent: Sun, Feb 14, 2010 3:26 pm Subject: [vintagvw] 67 tail light help Hi, I have a 67 bug with a problem tail light. It is the right hand side and here is what is happening; Press brakes = light works, but is not as bright as the left side Headlights on = all is good Headlights on and press brakes = light goes out Both rear turn signals work fine. I have checked and replaced the bulbs with no change. Any ideas? Thanks, Rob Garretson ☮ mrgarre...@aol.com robgarret...@mac.com Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right. Robert Hunter, Jerry Garcia ___ vintagvw site list vintagvw@lists.sjsu.edu http://lists.sjsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vintagvw ___ vintagvw site list vintagvw@lists.sjsu.edu http://lists.sjsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vintagvw
Re: [vintagvw] 67 tail light help
There's supposed to be star washers under the nuts that attach the housing to the fender - these cut through the paint to make contact. If the problem just started, you want to clean the washer and nut on each stud, and reinstall - a little anti-seize wouldn't hurt on the studs. If the problem has been there all along, you might want to look at the fender bolts. If someone did a real good job painting the underside of the fenders before installing them, you might not have a good connection from the body to the fender. At least one of the fender bolts ought to cut through the paint to make a connection. The sheet metal screw that attaches the reflector to the housing is also a ground, and should be clean. If all else fails, a grounding wire from one of the taillight mounting studs to a fender bolt might be needed. I think it was 1968 models that started running ground wires in the harnesses, instead of relying on the bodywork. Chuck Kuecker rayvw...@aol.com wrote: Sounds like a bad ground. If I recall correctly the taillight grounds to the body, does not have a separate ground wire back there. Clean the area where the housing touches the body and re-tighten the screw. Ray -Original Message- From: Rob Garretson mrgarre...@aol.com To: vintagvw@lists.sjsu.edu Sent: Sun, Feb 14, 2010 3:26 pm Subject: [vintagvw] 67 tail light help Hi, I have a 67 bug with a problem tail light. It is the right hand side and here is what is happening; Press brakes = light works, but is not as bright as the left side Headlights on = all is good Headlights on and press brakes = light goes out Both rear turn signals work fine. I have checked and replaced the bulbs with no change. Any ideas? Thanks, Rob Garretson ☮ mrgarre...@aol.com robgarret...@mac.com Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right. Robert Hunter, Jerry Garcia ___ vintagvw site list vintagvw@lists.sjsu.edu http://lists.sjsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vintagvw
Re: [vintagvw] 67 tail light help
I agree with the bad ground diagnosis. The early VWs used a lot of grounding via screws in the metal body panels. Even my 8n Ford tractor grounds through the body work and I absolutely detest this. I run seperate ground wires on everything or at least to a solid terminal lug on something substantial. I no longer have any grounding issues. NQ - Original Message - From: rayvw...@aol.com To: vintagvw@lists.sjsu.edu Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [vintagvw] 67 tail light help Sounds like a bad ground. If I recall correctly the taillight grounds to the body, does not have a separate ground wire back there. Clean the area where the housing touches the body and re-tighten the screw. Ray -Original Message- From: Rob Garretson mrgarre...@aol.com To: vintagvw@lists.sjsu.edu Sent: Sun, Feb 14, 2010 3:26 pm Subject: [vintagvw] 67 tail light help Hi, I have a 67 bug with a problem tail light. It is the right hand side and here is what is happening; Press brakes = light works, but is not as bright as the left side Headlights on = all is good Headlights on and press brakes = light goes out Both rear turn signals work fine. I have checked and replaced the bulbs with no change. Any ideas? Thanks, Rob Garretson ☮ mrgarre...@aol.com robgarret...@mac.com Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right. Robert Hunter, Jerry Garcia ___ vintagvw site list vintagvw@lists.sjsu.edu http://lists.sjsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vintagvw ___ vintagvw site list vintagvw@lists.sjsu.edu http://lists.sjsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vintagvw ___ vintagvw site list vintagvw@lists.sjsu.edu http://lists.sjsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vintagvw
Re: [vintagvw] 67 tail light help
Bad ground. What is happening is that the brake light circuit is trying to use the hot side of the parking light circuit as a ground instead of the sheet metal of the car. With the parking AND brake filaments lit, you've got 12V from the former running head-on into 12V from the latter. Like two matching forces pushing directly against each other, the result is zero volts, which is why the bulb goes out. With the park lights off, the brake light can no longer use it as a path to ground and must use the obviously degraded (ie: corroded) factory ground that you have -- which is why it is so dim. A better analogy would be a tee intersection, with two cars (one being the power from the brake circuit and one for the park circuit) moving directly towards each other, and the tee (the ground path) much too heavily congested for both cars to use simultaneously. Take out the second car and there's just enough room for one of the cars to turn down the side, but not without a lot of scraping (resistance) going on. -Original Message- From: vintagvw-boun...@lists.sjsu.edu [mailto:vintagvw-boun...@lists.sjsu.edu] On Behalf Of Rob Garretson Sent: February-14-10 12:27 PM To: vintagvw@lists.sjsu.edu Subject: [vintagvw] 67 tail light help Hi, I have a 67 bug with a problem tail light. It is the right hand side and here is what is happening; Press brakes = light works, but is not as bright as the left side Headlights on = all is good Headlights on and press brakes = light goes out Both rear turn signals work fine. I have checked and replaced the bulbs with no change. Any ideas? Thanks, Rob Garretson ☮ mrgarre...@aol.com robgarret...@mac.com Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right. Robert Hunter, Jerry Garcia ___ vintagvw site list vintagvw@lists.sjsu.edu http://lists.sjsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vintagvw __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4866 (20100214) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ___ vintagvw site list vintagvw@lists.sjsu.edu http://lists.sjsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vintagvw
Re: [vintagvw] 67 tail light help
You do realize that you just described the alternator/generator light circuit right? Only in that case it's intentional. ;-) G2 On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 16:19:44 -0800 Sharkeys Garage sharkeysgar...@shaw.ca wrote: you've got 12V from the former running head-on into 12V from the latter. Like two matching forces pushing directly against each other, the result is zero volts, which is why the bulb goes out. ___ vintagvw site list vintagvw@lists.sjsu.edu http://lists.sjsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vintagvw
