RE: Braille Displays For iPhone

2012-10-16 Thread Marco Migotti
: Braille Displays For iPhone What is the name of the 20 cell display? Can you comment on its portability? I have been watching this thread with interest, trying to get a feel for what is out there. I don't wan to get a display that is to big to be portable, but not to small as to cause extra work

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2012-10-16 Thread Richard Turner
is 16 cells and works with iOS 6. Richard Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marco Migotti Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 9:16 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Braille Displays For iPhone The 20 cell display

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2012-10-16 Thread Mary Otten
I'm also intrigued by the Perkins mini. Having seen the description, I'm thinking I might really like the layout with the space bar further from the keys, kind of like what you have on qwerty keyboard with the space bar below the typing keys. And the price is interesting as well. Mary Mary

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2012-10-15 Thread Brett
Hi , I totally agree that braille display has to be ergonomic for the user. Sent from Brett's iPhone On 15/10/2012, at 3:08 PM, Cheryl Ann Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote: I imagine this is personal preference too. Also, it would depend on how hard you had to work or how much it interrupted

RE: Braille Displays For iPhone

2012-10-15 Thread Marco Migotti
Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheryl Ann Homiak Sent: October-13-12 8:55 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Braille Displays For iPhone I'm wondering the same thing. I'm used to a 40-cell braillelite 40 which is still plugging away

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2012-10-15 Thread Damashe Thomas
Migotti n...@migotti.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 8:49 AM Subject: RE: Braille Displays For iPhone I have both a 40 cell display and a 20 cell display. I've found that when reading I preferred the 20 cell as it meant I could read the book faster using 20 cells

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2012-10-14 Thread Scott Davert
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of CD Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 8:21 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Braille Displays For iPhone The Focus 14 is less money. The APH does glitch if you don't input real fast from what I saw when I saw it and my friend who had it said

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2012-10-14 Thread David Chittenden
Homiak Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 6:44 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Braille Displays For iPhone Can you expand on this and say why you like the Focus 14 better? Thanks. On Sat, 13 Oct 2012, VaShaun Jones wrote: I have and like the Focus verses the APH Sent from

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2012-10-14 Thread CD
:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Braille Displays For iPhone Actually, Apple uses a time-sensitive grade II braille buffer which only allows approximately half a second. What this means is, if you hesitate for a half second, the grade II translator converts the buffer and enters

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2012-10-14 Thread Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Braille Displays For iPhone What does 8 dot omputer Braille do? I'm so used to basics sorry I sound ignorant. I know what computer is but what would this setting do. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone

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2012-10-14 Thread CD
His does help thanks! -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 7:47 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Braille Displays For iPhone Hi, All refreshable braille displays have 8

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2012-10-14 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
: Braille Displays For iPhone Can you expand on this and say why you like the Focus 14 better? Thanks. On Sat, 13 Oct 2012, VaShaun Jones wrote: I have and like the Focus verses the APH Sent from my iPhone On Oct 13, 2012, at 1:24 AM, CD cd5...@gmail.com wrote: I am looking

Re: Braille Displays For iPhone

2012-10-14 Thread VaShaun Jones
AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Braille Displays For iPhone What does 8 dot omputer Braille do? I'm so used to basics sorry I sound ignorant. I know what computer is but what would this setting do. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone

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2012-10-14 Thread David Chittenden
] On Behalf Of David Chittenden Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 6:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Braille Displays For iPhone Actually, Apple uses a time-sensitive grade II braille buffer which only allows approximately half a second. What this means is, if you hesitate

Re: Braille Displays For iPhone

2012-10-14 Thread David Chittenden
with it. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheryl Ann Homiak Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 6:44 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Braille Displays For iPhone Can you expand on this and say why you like the Focus 14 better

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2012-10-14 Thread Annie Skov Nielsen
Hi. I have tried some of these small displays, in my opinion they are not much worth. Yes you can use them for writing, but if you are reading only a little mails or longer messages and using safari, the smaller displays will not do it. On the other hand I am also wondering if 40 cells

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2012-10-14 Thread Annie Skov Nielsen
When choose something longer than a 12 or 14 cells display. There are some smaller problems with humanwares 32 cells display, but it provide great braille to a fair price, it can be placed in its bag without falling out, so you can easili use it in a train or a bus.. Best regards Annie. Den

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2012-10-14 Thread Annie Skov Nielsen
Oct 13, 2012 kl. 6:08 PM skrev Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com: That is not a glitch with the RefreshaBraille, that is the way it is with all braille displays and the iPhone. If you pause for more than about a half a second, and you are using contracted braille, the symbol you last

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2012-10-14 Thread Brett
I disagree: I have a focus40, which I use at work. I set it to use 14 cells, accept for when I am reading code. For books and the web and everything else, I prefer to read with less cells. It requires less hand movement and is more ergonomic, in my opinion. Sent from Brett's iPhone On

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2012-10-14 Thread Cheryl Ann Homiak
I imagine this is personal preference too. Also, it would depend on how hard you had to work or how much it interrupted your flow to keep moving through the book. On one end would be something like my braillelite 40 which I can set to scroll autoatically and then adjust the scrolling speed

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2012-10-13 Thread Sharonda Greenlaw
If you like reading, does a 14- or 16- cell display provide a comfortable fit? I'm only asking because I want a display. I have successfully used a 40-cell but it was not mine. Now I'm wanting to purchase one. What do you all think? Sharonda Sent from my iPhone; please excuse all mistakes On

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2012-10-13 Thread CD
Homiak Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 6:44 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Braille Displays For iPhone Can you expand on this and say why you like the Focus 14 better? Thanks. On Sat, 13 Oct 2012, VaShaun Jones wrote: I have and like the Focus verses the APH Sent from my iPhone

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2012-10-13 Thread Cheryl Ann Homiak
I'm wondering the same thing. I'm used to a 40-cell braillelite 40 which is still plugging away but unfortunately won't work with anything on the Mac except Terminal. I see the low prices of some of these 12, 14, 18 and even 20-cell displays and wonder if I wouldn't be frustrated. I also see

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2012-10-13 Thread CD
I only want one for iPhone. That's why I asked about it on this list. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheryl Ann Homiak Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 7:55 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Braille Displays

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2012-10-13 Thread Cheryl Ann Homiak
that is one of the glitches with it. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheryl Ann Homiak Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 6:44 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Braille Displays For iPhone Can you expand on this and say

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2012-10-13 Thread CD
@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Braille Displays For iPhone Is that a glitch with the Refreshabraille or with braille devices with an iOS device when using grade 2 translation? On Sat, 13 Oct 2012, CD wrote: The Focus 14 is less money. The APH does glitch if you don't input real fast from what I saw when I

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2012-10-13 Thread Teresa Cochran
I read a lot of books on my IPod, so I'm pretty sure I wouldn't want to use something like a 12-cell display. I have a preference for Braille books over audio. I can definitely understand a use for a small display with Idevices, (portability, reading with light email and web browsing, and

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2012-10-13 Thread VaShaun Jones
Sorry it was late. I like the look and feel of the 14. Even though the A.P.H one smaller its also bulky. The 14 is newer and it's oblong like a dollar and thinner. Other than that I'm learning how to use a braille device and always wanted portable verses a bigger device even though the larger

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2012-10-13 Thread Sharonda Greenlaw
I am the same. I prefer Braille over audio. That's why I asked Sharonda Sent from my iPhone; please excuse all mistakes On Oct 13, 2012, at 8:25 AM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote: I read a lot of books on my IPod, so I'm pretty sure I wouldn't want to use something like

RE: Braille Displays For iPhone

2012-10-13 Thread Richard Turner
That is not a glitch with the RefreshaBraille, that is the way it is with all braille displays and the iPhone. If you pause for more than about a half a second, and you are using contracted braille, the symbol you last typed will expand to its uncontracted meaning. So, if you are writing a name

RE: Braille Displays For iPhone

2012-10-13 Thread CD
For iPhone That is not a glitch with the RefreshaBraille, that is the way it is with all braille displays and the iPhone. If you pause for more than about a half a second, and you are using contracted braille, the symbol you last typed will expand to its uncontracted meaning. So, if you are writing a name

RE: Braille Displays For iPhone

2012-10-13 Thread Richard Turner
Greenlaw Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 7:18 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Braille Displays For iPhone If you like reading, does a 14- or 16- cell display provide a comfortable fit? I'm only asking because I want a display. I have successfully used a 40-cell but it was not mine. Now

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2012-10-13 Thread Scott Howell
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 6:44 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Braille Displays For iPhone Can you expand on this and say why you like the Focus 14 better? Thanks. On Sat, 13 Oct 2012, VaShaun Jones wrote: I have and like the Focus verses the APH Sent from my iPhone

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2012-10-13 Thread Scott Howell
I think a lot of it will come down to two factors as I see it. First how much panning bothers you. I have an 18 cell display and I think 24 would be maybe a little better and certainly 32 or 40 would be the best. However, the other factor is portability and ease of typing. THe Refreshabraille I

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2012-10-13 Thread Cheryl Ann Homiak
Yes, that was what I heard. I remember this being discussed in a demonstration of the Braille Pen that I heard. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14, HCSB) -- You received this message because you

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2012-10-13 Thread Richard Turner
, October 13, 2012 11:30 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Braille Displays For iPhone Yes, that was what I heard. I remember this being discussed in a demonstration of the Braille Pen that I heard. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable

RE: Braille Displays For iPhone

2012-10-13 Thread Cheryl Ann Homiak
To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Braille Displays For iPhone Yes, that was what I heard. I remember this being discussed in a demonstration of the Braille Pen that I heard. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer

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2012-10-13 Thread Scott Davert
, 2012 11:30 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Braille Displays For iPhone Yes, that was what I heard. I remember this being discussed in a demonstration of the Braille Pen that I heard. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You

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2012-10-13 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Braille Displays For iPhone Yes, that was what I heard. I remember this being discussed in a demonstration of the Braille Pen that I heard. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord

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2012-10-13 Thread Marianne Denning
it is unclear what you heard. Thanks, Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheryl Ann Homiak Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 11:30 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Braille Displays For iPhone

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2012-10-13 Thread Scott Davert
Homiak Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 11:30 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Braille Displays For iPhone Yes, that was what I heard. I remember this being discussed in a demonstration of the Braille Pen that I heard. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation

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2012-10-13 Thread Nicki Keck
that is one of the glitches with it. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheryl Ann Homiak Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 6:44 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Braille Displays For iPhone Can you expand

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2012-10-13 Thread Nicki Keck
fast it goes out of what you are doing. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheryl Ann Homiak Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 7:58 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Braille Displays For iPhone Is that a glitch

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2012-10-13 Thread Cheryl Ann Homiak
of the previous messages, so it is unclear what you heard. Thanks, Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheryl Ann Homiak Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 11:30 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Braille Displays For iPhone

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2012-10-13 Thread Karl Smith
: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of CD Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 8:21 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Braille Displays For iPhone The Focus 14 is less money. The APH does glitch if you don't input real fast from what I saw when I saw

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2012-10-13 Thread Joanne Chua
/oksaxis/blog/ -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of CD Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 8:21 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Braille Displays For iPhone The Focus 14 is less money. The APH does glitch if you don't

Braille Displays For iPhone

2012-10-12 Thread CD
I am looking at the Focus 14 and also the Refresha Braille. If anyone has either of these could you write me privately and let me know how you like them. I would really like to compare the two. I have seen the Refresha Braille but haven't seen the Focus which I know is less expensive. You can

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2012-10-12 Thread VaShaun Jones
I have and like the Focus verses the APH Sent from my iPhone On Oct 13, 2012, at 1:24 AM, CD cd5...@gmail.com wrote: I am looking at the Focus 14 and also the Refresha Braille. If anyone has either of these could you write me privately and let me know how you like them. I would really