Please help, can't figure out how to use the rotor on Iphone

2012-11-05 Thread Mária Orovčíková
Hi again, it might sound silly, but although I have been Iphone user for quite a while I still don't know how to use the rotor. I know how to do the gesture I just cannot get it working. When I try the gesture I always open an application. I use the rotor the way that I kind of flick with

Re: Please help, can't figure out how to use the rotor on Iphone

2012-11-05 Thread Rob Harris
Ok, you have to imagine this like the old radio dials, the tuning dial for example. You'd hold it between finger and thumb, and twist it. So you try to do this on the screen, hold your fingers a bit apart like you're holding one of those twist knobs, put finger and thumb on the screen, then

Re: Please help, can't figure out how to use the rotor on Iphone

2012-11-05 Thread Carol Pearson
What you want to achieve is the sort of movement that you have if you turn the knob on the radio so imagine that you want to turn on a radio, not one of the switch sliders but one of those that the volume knob turns around, with your thumb and finger on one hand. if you can't actually turn

Re: Please help, can't figure out how to use the rotor on Iphone

2012-11-05 Thread Teresa Cochran
Also, you can go into the VO settings and practice the gesture without changing any settings. This may enable you to practice with a little more confidence and be less tentative, if that's part of the problem. Teresa On Nov 5, 2012, at 5:44 AM, Carol Pearson carol.pearso...@googlemail.com

Re: Please help, can't figure out how to use the rotor on Iphone

2012-11-05 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Yeah, I have a friend who can't do the rotor gesture. She has tried and tried until she has dreams (actually I think she said nightmares) where she is trying to do the rotor so I finally told her to put it on the back burner for a while because it is driving her crazy. She has read the

Re: Please help, can't figure out how to use the rotor on Iphone

2012-11-05 Thread Søren Jensen
Hi. I haven't followed this discution, but sounds like she have to have someone to show hur phicically how to do it. It can be pretty difficult to explain how to do it, or some people find it difficult to understand without having someone to show them how to do it. Best regards: Søren Jensen

Re: Please help, can't figure out how to use the rotor on Iphone

2012-11-05 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Showing physically isn't that easy either when a person can't see. You can't exactly do it easily while somebody is touching your hand or force their hand through it, or at least i can't. Besides, a lot of us don't necessarily live where we have another blind person around to show us and from

RE: Please help, can't figure out how to use the rotor on Iphone

2012-11-05 Thread Alex Stone
Cheryl, I completely agree, I would find it very difficult to demonstrate it to someone. I’ve always described it to people as like turning a knob with two fingers. Cheers Alex From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheryl Homiak Sent: 05 November

Re: Please help, can't figure out how to use the rotor on Iphone

2012-11-05 Thread Søren Jensen
I have trained lots of blind, visually and fully sighted people how to use Voiceover on an iPhone and iPad, and I have a huge success on showing people how to turn the rotor. If people don't understand my explanation, I usually take their hand, carefully place their fingers on the screen and

Re: Please help, can't figure out how to use the rotor on Iphone

2012-11-05 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Yeah, my friend tried that too. But thanks. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Nov 5, 2012, at 8:46 AM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote: Also, you can go into the VO

Re: Please help, can't figure out how to use the rotor on Iphone

2012-11-05 Thread Christopher Chaltain
The key is that you need to have two fingers on the screen moving in opposite directions. Try placing the iPhone on a flat surface, so you can use both hands if you want, now place two fingers on the screen, one near the left edge and another near the right edge, about an inch apart. Now move

Re: Please help, can't figure out how to use the rotor on Iphone

2012-11-05 Thread Steve
That sounds more like a pinch gesture. I use the rotor by imagining a small knob like a volume control on a radio. I put my thumb and foreginer together and twist left or right. - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent:

Re: Please help, can't figure out how to use the rotor on Iphone

2012-11-05 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Sorry, in my example, the fingers are moving parallel to each other and not towards each other. They're about an inch apart, moving parallel to each other, in opposite directions. I hope that helps. On 05/11/12 13:55, Steve wrote: That sounds more like a pinch gesture. I use the rotor by

RE: Please help, can't figure out how to use the rotor on Iphone

2012-11-05 Thread Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
I use the rotor the way most people do. I Have just tried this new approach to see if itw would work, and it does 2 out of 3 trials, without much practice, at least for me. I hold the phone in my left hand with my left thumb over the screen, at about the 9 o'clock position, and my right

Re: Please help, can't figure out how to use the rotor on Iphone

2012-11-05 Thread Rob Harris
I don't think i'd have trouble demonstrating as such, though this is going to depend mostly on the comprehension of the trainee. But you do the gesture on the back of their hand, while it is more or less in situ with the iDevice, then they try and emulate what they feel you do. You could step

Re: Please help, can't figure out how to use the rotor on Iphone

2012-11-05 Thread Timothy Emmons
Hey guys, when I taught my last iPhone class, I taught the rotar this way and it worked great. The student was able to pick it up quite well, lightly using the back of the hand as my surface I showed them how to turn the rotar and what to do and it worked perfectly, this also works for

Re: Please help, can't figure out how to use the rotor on Iphone

2012-11-05 Thread reggie.alvar...@gmail.com
Simple way to do the rotor. I put two fingers with a space between them on the screen. Then I turn the iPhone under my two fingers. After a while doing it this way, I began feeling the movement and now I can do a little of the movement with the phone still. I still need to move the phone, but I

Re: Please help, can't figure out how to use the rotor on Iphone

2012-11-05 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Both the two-handed and two-finger-turn-phone methods sound like they might be something my friend can do to give her a feel for how to do the rotor. I'm going to try these with her. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my