RE: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers

2016-11-08 Thread Todd Patkus
. No thanks to these useless beta stuff! Thanks. Todd -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2016 9:31 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers Hi

RE: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers

2016-11-08 Thread Todd Patkus
, 2016 9:02 AM To: 'Adrian Leong' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers Hi. Best to let the moderators deal with the offenders of the NDA because they're also offending the rules of this list. So let Mark or Cara handle it. Todd, that'

Re: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers

2016-11-08 Thread christopher hallsworth
---Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Robin Frost >> Sent: Monday, November 7, 2016 6:56 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers >>

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2016-11-08 Thread Shaf Patel
set (smile). >> Robin >> >> >> -----Original Message- From: Shaf Patel >> Sent: Monday, November 7, 2016 8:08 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers >> >> Firstly, the NDA isn't a big deal

RE: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers

2016-11-08 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
and what I wrote above explains mine. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Todd Patkus Sent: Monday, November 7, 2016 9:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers

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2016-11-08 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
ajmund wrote: >>> Hi, >>> Best to say nothing, but considering youtube has a what's new in 10.2 >>> video, I can't see much would happen. >>> >>> Sent from a BrailleNote >>> >>> - Original Message ----- >>> From: Christoph

Re: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers

2016-11-08 Thread rajmund
m >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Date sent: Mon, 7 Nov 2016 22:41:49 -0600 >> Subject: Re: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers >> >> I don't know if the NDA is a big deal as far as Apple is concerned or >> how much trouble you could get into from Apple,

Re: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers

2016-11-08 Thread Christopher Chaltain
new in 10.2 video, I can't see much would happen. Sent from a BrailleNote - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Date sent: Mon, 7 Nov 2016 22:41:49 -0600 Subject: Re: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers I don't k

Re: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers

2016-11-08 Thread Robin Frost
to be able to say I did read this one (smiles). Take good care. Robin -Original Message- From: Christopher Chaltain Sent: Monday, November 7, 2016 11:41 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers I don't know if the NDA is a big deal as far

Re: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers

2016-11-08 Thread Robin Frost
for such great responses it's much appreciated. Robin -Original Message- From: Christopher Chaltain Sent: Monday, November 7, 2016 11:47 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers Interestingly enough, here's what Apple says at https://beta.apple.com

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2016-11-07 Thread rajmund
ect: Re: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers I don't know if the NDA is a big deal as far as Apple is concerned or how much trouble you could get into from Apple, but I do know Apple says the following at https://beta.apple.com/sp/betaprogram/legal 5. Definition of Confidential Informat

RE: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers

2016-11-07 Thread rajmund
ps.com Date sent: Tue, 8 Nov 2016 03:21:25 +0000 Subject: RE: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers Hi Robin, I guess whatever floats your boat is fine, I personally don't agree with Kevin's thoughts since especially if you are beta testing a completely new version of iOS and you jump on

re: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers

2016-11-07 Thread rajmund
Hi, Because of the lovely iPad email bug, I'm using my primary device, the phone, for betas. Sent from a BrailleNote - Original Message - From: "Robin Frost" <robin...@gmail.com To: <viphone@googlegroups.com Date sent: Mon, 7 Nov 2016 19:12:00 -0500 Subject: Quick Qu

RE: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers

2016-11-07 Thread Todd Patkus
@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers Interestingly enough, here's what Apple says at https://beta.apple.com/sp/betaprogram/legal Please keep in mind that you should not install beta software on production or business-critical systems. We strongly recommend installing

Re: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers

2016-11-07 Thread Christopher Chaltain
something unexpected I can’t get caught without my phone. I do not have a land line. *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Robin Frost *Sent:* Monday, November 7, 2016 7:12 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers

Re: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers

2016-11-07 Thread Christopher Chaltain
was careful to clarify the scope of my question from the outset (smile). Robin -Original Message- From: Shaf Patel Sent: Monday, November 7, 2016 8:08 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers Firstly, the NDA isn't a big deal - you won't get

Re: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers

2016-11-07 Thread Christopher Chaltain
, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Monday, November 7, 2016 6:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers Hi, I wasn't as worried about Apple as I was violating

Re: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers

2016-11-07 Thread Robin Frost
, November 7, 2016 10:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers Hi Robin, I guess whatever floats your boat is fine, I personally don't agree with Kevin's thoughts since especially if you are beta testing a completely new version of iOS and you jump

RE: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers

2016-11-07 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers Hi, I wasn't as worried about Apple as I was violating list policies about such things which is why I was careful to clarify the scope of my question from the outset (smile). Robin -Original Message

Re: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers

2016-11-07 Thread Robin Frost
@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers Firstly, the NDA isn't a big deal - you won't get in trouble by Apple for discussing the beta publicly. Secondly, I use it on my main device because I don't depend on my phone enough to worry about many bugs. On 11/8/2016 12:12 AM, Robin

Re: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers

2016-11-07 Thread Robin Frost
Hi, And there’s the other side of the coin. Thanks for your insights. Robin From: Kevin Chao Sent: Monday, November 7, 2016 9:17 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers I test the betas on my primary devices. I'm able to experience the new

Re: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers

2016-11-07 Thread Robin Frost
Hi, Yes sir it does help as that was my rationale too (smile). Robin From: Richard Turner Sent: Monday, November 7, 2016 9:14 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers I have two devices, my iPhone 5S and my iPod Touch 6. I use the phone for, can

Re: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers

2016-11-07 Thread Kevin Chao
I test the betas on my primary devices. I'm able to experience the new features/bugs natively, and it gives more insentive to file radars via bugreport.apple.com. i.e. tif eehris a critical Voiceover accessibility issue, I'm more likely to file a bug and raise it ASAP and follow-up to resolution.

Re: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers

2016-11-07 Thread Richard Turner
I have two devices, my iPhone 5S and my iPod Touch 6. I use the phone for, can you guess", phone calls and other things. I use the iPod Touch for most of my books and music. I've chosen to use the iPod Touch for beta testing as I don't want to risk running into a problem that would compromise my

Re: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers

2016-11-07 Thread Shaf Patel
Firstly, the NDA isn't a big deal - you won't get in trouble by Apple for discussing the beta publicly. Secondly, I use it on my main device because I don't depend on my phone enough to worry about many bugs. On 11/8/2016 12:12 AM, Robin Frost wrote: > Hi, > No worries I’m not asking anything

RE: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers

2016-11-07 Thread Merv Keck
not have a land line. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Monday, November 7, 2016 7:12 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers Hi, No worries I’m not asking anything that’d cause anyone

Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers

2016-11-07 Thread Robin Frost
Hi, No worries I’m not asking anything that’d cause anyone to violate a non-disclosure agreement at all. I’m merely wondering for those who participate in Apple’s beta testing of iOS how many do so on their main iDevice versus doing so on a secondary device. Right now I’ve obtained a secondary