RE: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-19 Thread Rose Combs
AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions Hi Rose, No you do not have to update to iOS eight. I installed the cayenne FB reader onto my iPhone for S and I am running iOS 7.12. works pretty good, however the processing is a little slow. Once I take a picture

RE: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-19 Thread Rose Combs
Ouch, not good! I still may go for the reader, however. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Dean Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 9:27 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions Hi

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-19 Thread Chuck Dean
Dean Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 9:27 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions Hi Rose, I would hold off upgrading to IOS 8. I upgraded my iPad mini, and it has more bugs than my very first apartment in Chicago! Chuck (mobile) Pleez x cuze enny tie

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-19 Thread Colin Matthews
. - Original Message - From: Kayaker sea...@me.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 6:48 PM Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions Hi, I'm no photographer, but I am a math and science guy. If you are saying that taking a landscape picture

RE: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-19 Thread Gary Bowers
How did you flatten the paperback book for scanning with the KNFB Reader? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Dean Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 4:45 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, First

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-19 Thread Chuck Dean
@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions I tried scanning about twenty pages of a paperback book. I used my scan stand pro. It worked very well... About 98% accurate. Chuck (mobile) Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores. On Sep 18, 2014, at 2:36 PM, Mary

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-19 Thread Marianne Denning
@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions I tried scanning about twenty pages of a paperback book. I used my scan stand pro. It worked very well... About 98% accurate. Chuck (mobile) Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores. On Sep 18, 2014, at 2:36 PM, Mary Otten motte

RE: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-19 Thread Connie Mohney
Hi Jonathan, Will the NFB reader work on an iPhone 4 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 4:05 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: KNFB Reader, First Impressions I've spent the last half hour

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-19 Thread Chuck Dean
I have downloaded the K NFB reader onto my iPhone for S, and it works fine. It's a little slower than the demonstrations, it takes about five or six seconds for it to process the image. But otherwise it seems to work well. Chuck (mobile) Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores. On Sep

RE: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-19 Thread Connie Mohney
PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions I have downloaded the K NFB reader onto my iPhone for S, and it works fine. It's a little slower than the demonstrations, it takes about five or six seconds for it to process the image. But otherwise it seems to work

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-19 Thread Charles Rivard
! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Connie Mohney To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 7:11 PM Subject: RE: KNFB Reader, First Impressions Hi Jonathan, Will the NFB reader work on an iPhone 4 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-19 Thread gs
! - Original Message - From: Connie Mohney To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 7:11 PM Subject: RE: KNFB Reader, First Impressions Hi Jonathan, Will the NFB reader work on an iPhone 4 From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf OfJonathan Mosen

RE: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-19 Thread Ron Pelletier
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 12:19 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions Hi Ron, well, I have no way of knowing what you have or haven't figured out

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-19 Thread Charles Rivard
been initiated. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Krister Ekstrom To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 8:39 AM Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, First

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-19 Thread Chuck Dean
! - Original Message - From: Krister Ekstrom To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 8:39 AM Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions Hi, I know i’m not the brightest shining star in the universe, far from it, but i have to say that i’m quite disappointed

RE: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-19 Thread Ron Pelletier
in the vertical to position for documents mounted on the wall or bulletin boards. Ron Danvers From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 1:57 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: KNFB Reader, First

RE: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-19 Thread Ron Pelletier
Subject: RE: KNFB Reader, First Impressions Hi Ron, The app is in the Canadian app store since I bought it first thing this morning. A search for KNFB did the trick for me, first result was Blio and then came KNFB Reader. Are you just typing it in and then check the matches or are you typing

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-19 Thread Charles Rivard
, 2014 11:55 AM Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions I read the app description which says it is compatible with the iPhone 5and 5S. I remember they said it would work with the 4S, although the performance would be reduced. Does any one know if this app will work on my 4S

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-19 Thread Charles Rivard
@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 12:29 PM Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions Hello Anthony, no. NO demo is available. AppleVis have done a podcast which, while I've not heard it, is probably helpful. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks

RE: knfb reader on Iphone 4s?

2014-09-19 Thread Ron Pelletier
Weitzel Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 2:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: knfb reader on Iphone 4s? The 4S still has an 8 MP camera just as the 5, 5C, 5S,6 and 6 Plus do. Only difference is that it has a sensor with slightly smaller pixels and it doesn't have the true tone flash. Since

RE: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-19 Thread Ron Pelletier
-Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of RobH. Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 5:45 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions Hummmnmnm, the logic of it threw me too, so are we to understand

know what this reminds me of? - Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-19 Thread Charles Rivard
defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Cristóbal To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 1:46 PM Subject: RE: KNFB Reader, First Impressions I'd be curious to know if people can get decent results

RE: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-19 Thread Ron Pelletier
in jumping in without knowing how good it is. Ron Danvers -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of RobH. Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 5:53 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions Hummmnmnmnm

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-19 Thread Charles Rivard
- From: Deb Lewis deblewi...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 2:11 PM Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions Well I actually did not. On 9/18/14, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Deb, If you put the phone in landscape, do you also have

RE: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-19 Thread Ron Pelletier
5:55 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions I agree, and i’m surpriced actually that reading displays and the like has gotten so little attention, i mean now that we actually have a device capable of doing just that, i’m surpriced that there’s only

Re: know what this reminds me of? - Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-19 Thread Gail the U. S. Male
: know what this reminds me of? - Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions I wonder if others have been reading posts about the KNFB reader and are thinking the same thing that I am. I don't have the reader yet, but have had a bar code scanner for a few years. When I first got one for the person I

RE: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-19 Thread Ron Pelletier
the field of view report and the tild vibrator. Ron Danvers -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of RobH. Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 5:56 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions Ok

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-19 Thread Chuck Dean
. Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 5:56 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions Ok, For those who haven't got it yet, how do you take the picture? I've started snapping when out and about and using the iPhone like a conventional camera, landscape

RE: KNFB Reader Help?

2014-09-19 Thread Ron Pelletier
Hi, Don't get discouraged. If you are not getting good results, first check if your flash is on. Lighting makes all the difference. Double tap the flash button until it says flash is on. Then Place the top right corner of your phone approximately in the middle of the document. Raise the

RE: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-19 Thread Jim Ruby
Of Ron Pelletier Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 10:44 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: KNFB Reader, First Impressions I think the company would do themselves a favour if they had a demo that could do something like 10 or 15 documents to let people see how good it really is before

Re: knfb reader on Iphone 4s?

2014-09-19 Thread Charles Rivard
] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 2:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: knfb reader on Iphone 4s? The 4S still has an 8 MP camera just as the 5, 5C, 5S,6 and 6 Plus do. Only difference is that it has a sensor with slightly smaller pixels and it doesn't have

Re: knfb reader on Iphone 4s?

2014-09-19 Thread Chuck Dean
-Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 2:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: knfb reader on Iphone 4s? The 4S still has an 8 MP camera just as the 5, 5C, 5S,6 and 6 Plus do

Re: KNFB Reader on iPod Touch Fifth Gen, was: knfb reader on Iphone 4s?

2014-09-19 Thread Teresa Cochran
Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 12:10 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: knfb reader on Iphone 4s? will it work on a ipod touch 5th gen? Hank On 9/18/2014 11:18 PM, Chuck Dean wrote: The cayenne FB reader will work on an iPhone for ass. I have

RE: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-19 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
, September 19, 2014 5:44 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions There sure are a lot of questions about what the KNFB reader will or will not work with. These can be prevented by doing a little Internet browsing, for example, to the site of the developers

RE: KNFB Reader on iPod Touch Fifth Gen, was: knfb reader on Iphone 4s?

2014-09-19 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 12:10 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: knfb reader on Iphone 4s? will it work on a ipod

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-18 Thread Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona
would it be possible to read a screen with minues on it successfully? On 9/18/2014 1:05 AM, Jonathan Mosen wrote: I've spent the last half hour or so playing with KNFB Reader on my iPhone 5s. I couldn't be more impressed. I read my son's school report, which it got word perfect even when it

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-18 Thread Stephanie
Will this work with the iphone 4s? Steph - Original Message - From: Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona hank.smith...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, September 18, 2014 6:15 pm Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions would it be possible to read a screen

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-18 Thread christopher hallsworth
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions would it be possible to read a screen with minues on it successfully? On 9/18/2014 1:05 AM, Jonathan Mosen wrote: I've spent the last half hour or so playing with KNFB Reader on my iPhone 5s. I couldn't be more impressed. I read my son's

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-18 Thread Jenifer Barr
? Steph - Original Message - From: Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona hank.smith...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, September 18, 2014 6:15 pm Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions would it be possible to read a screen with minues on it successfully

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-18 Thread Jonathan Mosen
, and Seeing-eye dog Iona hank.smith...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, September 18, 2014 6:15 pm Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions would it be possible to read a screen with minues on it successfully? On 9/18/2014 1:05 AM, Jonathan Mosen wrote: I've

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-18 Thread Les Kriegler
wrote: Will this work with the iphone 4s? Steph - Original Message - From: Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona hank.smith...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, September 18, 2014 6:15 pm Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions would it be possible

RE: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-18 Thread BrianMiller
Jonathan, So is the KNFB reader app now available in the app store? Also, are you using a stand to take the scans/pics, or are you just holding the phone over the page or item? Thanks so much, this is very encouraging! Brian M From: viphone@googlegroups.com

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-18 Thread Feliciano G
It is now available on the app store to download. Regards, Feliciano Like my Facebook page: https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=690649294341327 Follow me on Twitter: Www.twitter.com/theblindman12v Sent from the Super-iPhone On Sep 18, 2014, at 4:19 AM, BrianMiller

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-18 Thread Eileen Misrahi
Hello Jonathan, Your first impressions of the KNFB app is encouraging. At this time, I'm going to have to be on the sidelines until I decide on which iPhone 6 I will purchase. This is my question to this thread. For those who invest in the KNFB Reader app and have purchased either an iPhone 6

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-18 Thread Anthony Vece
Eileen; I believe I'm going to try it on my 5s. If and, when I do, I'let everyone know. Sentence from my ATT iPhone 5s! On Sep 18, 2014, at 8:08 AM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Jonathan, Your first impressions of the KNFB app is encouraging. At this time, I'm

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-18 Thread Mary Otten
Hi Jonathan, I know you used to use Nokia phones. Did you have the the reader for that? Sent from my iPad On Sep 18, 2014, at 4:18 AM, BrianMiller brianrmille...@gmail.com wrote: Jonathan, So is the KNFB reader app now available in the app store? Also, are you using a stand to take

RE: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-18 Thread Rose Combs
Reason to update when I can find a way to do so. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 2:46 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions According to the App Store

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-18 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hi, I know i’m not the brightest shining star in the universe, far from it, but i have to say that i’m quite disappointed in the app. I tried it on a package of food and it didn’t find any text even though i know for a fact that there was text on the package. I held it at various heights over

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-18 Thread Alex Hall
Jonathan, would you mind summarizing how the KNFB app compares to my own primary OCR solution: Prizmo? The updated Prizmo seems to work quite well, at least in my brief tests, and I'd like to know what makes the KNFB app more useful/easier/etc than Prizmo or similar apps. I'm not putting the

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-18 Thread Harry Bell
I have played a bit today with this app on my iPhone 5S and it really is pretty good. I just got it to read the instructions on a small bread mix bag where the text was incredibly tiny and brown on a beige background. The results were very quick and about 95% accurate! Harry On 18 Sep

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-18 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Brian, I don't own any scanning stand. In my view, if one needs to resort to another gadget to get a good picture, I may as well go to the office and use my scanner. What I'm after is great results with the device I carry with me in my pocket, with no additional stuff. And KNFB delivers

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-18 Thread Jonathan Mosen
I am hoping the KNFB Reader people will post some sort of comparison of using the app with the 6 versus the 6 Plus. I'll be getting the 6 Plus anyway because the battery life is so much better, but still it would be interesting to clear up the speculation. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-18 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Mary, Yes I did, I had KNFB Reader on the N82 and N86. This is so many magnitudes faster. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 19/09/2014, at 12:52 am, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jonathan, I know you used to

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-18 Thread Krister Ekstrom
What are you guys doing to get good results? Me, i got a lot of gibberish and some readable text but not much. Is there a technique for this? Does the reader give some kind of feedback when all text’s detected? Anyways now i know that it’s me and not the app that’s stupid.:-) /Krister 18 sep

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-18 Thread Jim
It really seems to depend on the material that you are standing. I have gotten 100% accurate results with some documents, other documents with delayed scanning results and not quite so perfect, the field of view report seems to help a lot. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 18, 2014, at 10:53 AM,

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-18 Thread Les Kriegler
It's a good idea to activate the field of view report. What happens is the phone will vibrate until you have the phone lined up properly to take your picture. This is a great feature that this app provides. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 18, 2014, at 11:53 AM, Krister Ekstrom

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-18 Thread Deb Lewis
Does the KNFB Reader have a limited number of installs or is it available to all phones on the account? Asking because I do plan to upgrade but it will be a few weeks. I'd buy it now and use it on my 5S if it has unlimited installations as most do. On 9/18/14, Krister Ekstrom

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-18 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Krister, hard to know what you're doing without seeing what you're doing, but the one thing that comes to mind is, are you holding the phone lengthways or sideways? I find I get the best results by putting a page of text on a table, like I would be reading it in Braille or visually. Then

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-18 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Deb, it's just another app in this regard and it is also enabled for the new iOS 8 family sharing. Bonnie and I share an account and I was able to put it on her phone without issues. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-18 Thread Chuck Dean
I read the app description which says it is compatible with the iPhone 5and 5S. I remember they said it would work with the 4S, although the performance would be reduced. Does any one know if this app will work on my 4S? -- The following information is important for all members of the

RE: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-18 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
sensor with slightly larger pixel size, it is still an 8 MP camera and much the same as on a 5S. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eileen Misrahi Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 5:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: KNFB Reader

RE: knfb reader on Iphone 4s?

2014-09-18 Thread Alan Lemly
Yes, it's true that the KNFB Reader will not work on an iPhone 4S. Only iPhone 5 and higher. Alan Lemly -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Gross Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 11:50 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-18 Thread Krister Ekstrom
I tend to hold the phone so that the camera points towards the top of the document. The vibration thingy is really a great help, they’ve been thinking there. At the risk of sounding stupid again, should i not hold the phone with the camera pointing to the top of the document but rather as if i

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-18 Thread Jonathan Mosen
There's your problem, hold it in landscape mode, you'll get better results. I recommend Judy Dixon's book, Get the Picture, from National Braille Press. it does a great job of helping a blind person understand photography. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and

RE: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-18 Thread Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Do you get the whole page if one uses landscape mode, or just the top half? From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 12:14 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions There's

RE: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-18 Thread Chuck Dean
I answered my own question... Yes, the KNFB reader will work with a iPhone 4S. I downloaded the app. It is obviously slower... It takes about 5 seconds to process the image, but so far, it is working well. Chuck -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list.

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-18 Thread Anthony Vece
Hey Jon; Do they let you try it before you buy it? Thanks Anthony Sent from my ATT iPhone 5s! On Sep 18, 2014, at 11:43 AM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi Brian, I don't own any scanning stand. In my view, if one needs to resort to another gadget to get a good picture, I may

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-18 Thread Jonathan Mosen
To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions There's your problem, hold it in landscape mode, you'll get better results. I recommend Judy Dixon's book, Get the Picture, from National Braille Press. it does a great job of helping

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-18 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hello Anthony, no. NO demo is available. AppleVis have done a podcast which, while I've not heard it, is probably helpful. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 19/09/2014, at 5:23 am, Anthony Vece ajv...@gmail.com wrote: Hey

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-18 Thread Alex Hall
Yes, the podcast is really helpful. I don't yet have the app, but I feel like I could explain most of it to someone else, having only heard that podcast. Here's the link: http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/demonstration-knfbreader-iphone On Sep 18, 2014, at 1:29 PM, Jonathan Mosen

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-18 Thread Kayaker
Hi, I'm no photographer, but I am a math and science guy. If you are saying that taking a landscape picture of a page that is essentially a portrait improves results, that makes no logical sense. The number of pixels lost is on the order of 40%. You lose about 20% on the left and right sides

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-18 Thread christopher hallsworth
Ar, good to know KNFB Reader works on the 4s or be it slower. My impression was they wasn't going to support the 4s for the time being, at least officially. So this is reassuring news that it does in fact work. On 18 Sep 2014, at 18:23, Chuck Dean chuckd...@icloud.com wrote: I answered my own

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-18 Thread Anthony Vece
If you do a podcast it would be more than helpful. Sent from my ATT iPhone 5s! On Sep 18, 2014, at 1:29 PM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hello Anthony, no. NO demo is available. AppleVis have done a podcast which, while I've not heard it, is probably helpful. Jonathan Mosen

Re: KNFB reader not working as expected

2014-09-18 Thread Alex Hall
It will work on a 5, or so I hear. To find the user guide, go to Settings, then the About tab, and find the user guide option on the resulting screen. On Sep 18, 2014, at 2:05 PM, Olivia Norman olivianor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Just downloaded the KNFB reader on my iPhone 5 running IOS 8

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-18 Thread Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona
let us know if you can scan minues on lcd desplays etc On 9/18/2014 5:23 AM, Anthony Vece wrote: Eileen; I believe I'm going to try it on my 5s. If and, when I do, I'let everyone know. Sentence from my ATT iPhone 5s! On Sep 18, 2014, at 8:08 AM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com

RE: knfb reader on Iphone 4s?

2014-09-18 Thread Thom Spittle
, or 6 series. Thom -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 1:00 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: knfb reader on Iphone 4s? Yes, it's true that the KNFB Reader will not work

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-18 Thread Chuck Dean
I took a picture of my computer screen, with a Wikipedia article on it, with the cayenne FB reader. It works quite well, about 95% accuracy. Chuck (mobile) Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores. On Sep 18, 2014, at 11:26 AM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona hank.smith...@gmail.com

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-18 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
Can those who are playing with the app please discuss what types of material work? For example, can you read tables, food boxes, etc. Thanks! On 9/18/14, Chuck Dean cadean...@gmail.com wrote: I took a picture of my computer screen, with a Wikipedia article on it, with the cayenne FB reader. It

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-18 Thread Jonathan Mosen
I took a picture of my computer screen, with flash disabled, and it worked pretty well. Not perfect, but pretty well. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 19/09/2014, at 6:26 am, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-18 Thread Les Kriegler
Okay, I've tried out the app and here are my impressions. First, I am running on an iPhone 5S using the latest version of IOS7. In addition to using the field report option, there is an option next to the take picture button called Tilt Guidance. I found that I wasn't holding the phone in a

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-18 Thread Les Kriegler
The documentation states that food boxes will yield inconsistent results, although I haven't tried that type of item yet. On Sep 18, 2014, at 2:40 PM, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote: Can those who are playing with the app please discuss what types of material work? For

RE: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-18 Thread Cristóbal
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions I took a picture of my computer screen, with flash disabled, and it worked pretty well. Not perfect, but pretty well. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 19/09/2014, at 6:26 am, Hank

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-18 Thread Les Kriegler
I contacted support at KNFB Reader and was advised to use portrait mode if possible, both for the document layout and with the phone. On Sep 18, 2014, at 1:48 PM, Kayaker sea...@me.com wrote: Hi, I'm no photographer, but I am a math and science guy. If you are saying that taking a

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-18 Thread Deb Lewis
I know this is what they say and I sure don't want to dispute that. But personally I had the best success with Jonathan's strategy of putting the phone in landscape mode. It might be just that I can position it better in landscape. On 9/18/14, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote: I

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-18 Thread Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona
if one was to say move the cursor on the screen would it update or does it just read the intire screen Hank On 9/18/2014 11:35 AM, Chuck Dean wrote: I took a picture of my computer screen, with a Wikipedia article on it, with the cayenne FB reader. It works quite well, about 95% accuracy.

RE: KNFB reader not working as expected

2014-09-18 Thread Christopher Sabine
Hello. I'm using a 5S and got similar results. I have a little bit of usable vision, and it doesn't look as if the text I'm scanning is showing up on the back facing camera, and I suspect the issue is the case I'm using. It's a Lifeproof Case, and I'm thinking it's blocking the camera lens. Can

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-18 Thread Chuck Dean
Whenever you change the screen, you would have to take a Nother picture of it to read it. It does not read in real time. Chuck (mobile) Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores. On Sep 18, 2014, at 11:54 AM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona hank.smith...@gmail.com wrote: if one

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-18 Thread Michael Feir
I've had splendid results so far. I scanned a sadly expired KFC coupon, the instructions on a VH Healthy Choice Steamer frozen dinner, a couple of pages of a small paperback book, and my computer screen with very good results. The can of soup I just tried didn't give me anything useful but the

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-18 Thread Les Kriegler
Hi Deb, If you put the phone in landscape, do you also have to put the document into landscape as well? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 18, 2014, at 2:54 PM, Deb Lewis deblewi...@gmail.com wrote: I know this is what they say and I sure don't want to dispute that. But personally I had the best

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-18 Thread Deb Lewis
Well I actually did not. On 9/18/14, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Deb, If you put the phone in landscape, do you also have to put the document into landscape as well? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 18, 2014, at 2:54 PM, Deb Lewis deblewi...@gmail.com wrote: I know this is

Re: KNFB reader not working as expected

2014-09-18 Thread Harry Bell
I use Mophie juice pack case on my iPhone 5s and Knfb Reader works really easily. Harry On 18 Sep 2014, at 19:57, Christopher Sabine jsab...@cinci.rr.com wrote: Hello. I'm using a 5S and got similar results. I have a little bit of usable vision, and it doesn't look as if the text I'm

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-18 Thread Krister Ekstrom
I had trouble with one type of food box, a carton one, but another with a plastic film on it worked quite well and i even got cooking tips i haven't seen before.:-) Right now though, i don't think reading displays and the like wil be an option since you can't do it in realtime, you first have

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-18 Thread Krister Ekstrom
I don’t think it updates, after all this is still pictures, you have to retake a picture for every cursor movement you make, not very practical but imagine a video mode with this kind of precition, now that would be something. /Krister 18 sep 2014 kl. 20:54 skrev Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-18 Thread Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona
darn now if we could only get it to do that in real time we would have a kick ass way to read minues and the like off of lcds I am surprised they didn't considder this when developing the app. On 9/18/2014 12:34 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: I don’t think it updates, after all this is still

RE: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-18 Thread Ron Pelletier
Jonathan, What is the app called in the app store? I searched for KNFB and didn't find anything. Perhaps its not in the Canadian app store yet. I, for sure am getting it when I can find it Ron Danvers From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of

RE: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-18 Thread Ron Pelletier
@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Stephanie Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 4:21 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions Will this work with the iphone 4s? Steph - Original Message - From: Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona hank.smith...@gmail.com To: viphone

RE: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-18 Thread Ron Pelletier
You can use 7.12 Ron Danvers -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jenifer Barr Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 5:37 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions Hi. Do I have to have iOS 8

RE: knfb reader on Iphone 4s?

2014-09-18 Thread Ron Pelletier
If you listen to the people from the company demonstrating it, it isn't supported. Ron Danvers -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Gross Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 12:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject:

RE: knfb reader on Iphone 4s?

2014-09-18 Thread Ron Pelletier
: Thursday, September 18, 2014 1:00 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: knfb reader on Iphone 4s? Yes, it's true that the KNFB Reader will not work on an iPhone 4S. Only iPhone 5 and higher. Alan Lemly -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com

Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-18 Thread Chuck Dean
they say, is because of the camera. Ron Danvers -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Stephanie Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 4:21 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

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