Re: i5 Underwhelming

2012-09-19 Thread Scott Howell
@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 4:24 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: i5 Underwhelming I agree with what was said that change will slow down as a technology matures. Also I think you have to really

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2012-09-19 Thread Christopher Chaltain
@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: i5 Underwhelming I agree with what was said that change will slow down as a technology matures. Also I think you have to really logicly think to yourself, what is the reality compared to specifically what you thought it coud have or should have been. If it is just

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2012-09-19 Thread Ioana Gandrabur
@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 9:41 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: i5 Underwhelming My question would be, what did you want it to include that it did not? To some of us it is worth it to have LTE support verses not with the old models. Sounds

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2012-09-19 Thread Ioana Gandrabur
Of Scott Howell Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 1:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: i5 Underwhelming Mark, What do you mean by The fact that Apple thinks it's cool to be able to manipulate iTunes playlists in a slightly new way says more about their lack of innovation How

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2012-09-18 Thread Joe
@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 4:24 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: i5 Underwhelming I agree with what was said that change will slow down as a technology matures. Also I think you have to really logicly think

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2012-09-16 Thread Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
: i5 Underwhelming Did you all consider that some people might have NFC what NFC is? LOL, just kidding. Every time I hear NFC, I don't think payment system. I think, No F.g Clue. Anyway, seriously though, I'm not going to belittle anyone who upgrades from the 4S to the 5 because after all

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2012-09-16 Thread James Mannion
else.--Joe -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 10:09 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: i5 Underwhelming Did you all consider that some people might have NFC what

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2012-09-16 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 4:24 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: i5 Underwhelming I agree with what was said that change will slow down as a technology matures. Also

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2012-09-16 Thread Robin
p.m. To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: i5 Underwhelming My question would be, what did you want it to include that it did not? To some of us it is worth it to have LTE support verses not with the old models. Sounds like the case will be nicer as you said. I can't really say I get

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2012-09-16 Thread Robin
I know this is a bit off topic, but the NEW Windows Phone 8, Nokia Lumia 920, will have built in accessibility. I just don't know how it will compare to the iPhone's accessibility or Android's accessibility. I do know that Microsoft waited 2 years before putting out of the box accessibility

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2012-09-16 Thread Rose Combs
Isn't that called Holm's law or something similar? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Barry Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 1:03 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: i5 Underwhelming If other platforms

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2012-09-15 Thread Joanne Chua
to upgrade if one is eligible. JMO. Best, Rick From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 7:38 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: i5 Underwhelming Is it just me or does the iPhone appear to have hit

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2012-09-15 Thread Joe
-Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 10:09 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: i5 Underwhelming Did you all consider that some people might have NFC what NFC is? LOL, just kidding

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2012-09-15 Thread Kevin Barry
, and that is something that for me personally keeps the iPhone ahead of everything else.--Joe -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 10:09 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: i5 Underwhelming

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2012-09-14 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Well said, Allison. It seems that with every release of a new iPhone a certain group of people (and I don't necessarily mean just people on this list) complain and say it's disappointing etc. When the 4S came out it was the same, a lot of people were disappointed it wasn't called the iPhone 5 as

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2012-09-14 Thread Scott Howell
@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Watson Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 7:59 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: i5 Underwhelming Joe, It's evolutionary, not revolutionary. A6 quad core processor and a gig of ram is sexy enough for me to trade in my 4s for the 5

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2012-09-14 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Did you all consider that some people might have NFC what NFC is? LOL, just kidding. Every time I hear NFC, I don't think payment system. I think, No F.g Clue. Anyway, seriously though, I'm not going to belittle anyone who upgrades from the 4S to the 5 because after all, it's still moving

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2012-09-14 Thread Christopher Chaltain
To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: i5 Underwhelming My question would be, what did you want it to include that it did not? To some of us it is worth it to have LTE support verses not with the old models. Sounds like the case will be nicer as you said. I can't really say I get the point

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2012-09-14 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Scott, From all I read and heard the A6 is not a Quad Core and may not even have a Quad Core GPU (graphics processing unit) as is the case with the A5X which is in the new iPad. Here is a link to an article, it's a bit technical, but it makes it clear that we don't know exactly yet what the

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2012-09-14 Thread Teresa Cochran
I tried looking for specs on the Apple site, but the chip specs are noticeably absent. I suppose we will just have to wait and see what the performance issues are. Teresa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public

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2012-09-14 Thread Scott Howell
Sieghard, THanks for sharing the article and it was pretty interesting. I do not know either about the ram beyond what has ben said, but even the normally reliable sources are not Apple, so correct that we do not know until the horse speaks. I really believe it matters little about how many

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2012-09-14 Thread M. Taylor
about their lack of innovation than anything. I think the big thing this year is iOS 6 about which I am extremely excited. Mark From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 4:38 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: i5

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2012-09-14 Thread Andy Baracco
One problem is that folks take rumor to be gospel, and then are disappointed when it turns out that the rumors were just that, rumors. Andy -Original Message- From: Jonathan Mosen Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 11:46 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: i5 Underwhelming

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2012-09-14 Thread Jonathan Mosen
That depends on where you are. Here, NFC is used on our busses, and to pay for a bunch of things. Jonathan _ From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Friday, 14 September 2012 9:18 p.m. To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: i5

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2012-09-14 Thread Rick Alfaro
is eligible. JMO. Best, Rick From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 7:38 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: i5 Underwhelming Is it just me or does the iPhone appear to have hit a plateau? I'm

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2012-09-14 Thread Daniel Miller
@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 2:26 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: i5 Underwhelming That depends on where you are. Here, NFC is used on our busses, and to pay for a bunch of things. Jonathan _ From: viphone@googlegroups.com

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2012-09-14 Thread Rose Combs
Subject: RE: i5 Underwhelming Hello Joe, I totally and completely agree with you. While I will purchase the iPhone 5, there is definitely no wow factor and I'm certainly not recommending it to iPhone 4 S users. The fact that Apple thinks it's cool to be able to manipulate iTunes playlists

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2012-09-14 Thread Daniel Miller
Noone will know until it's released in October. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rose Combs Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 2:38 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: i5 Underwhelming Does anyone know if the new

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2012-09-14 Thread Scott Howell
] On Behalf Of Joe Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 4:38 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: i5 Underwhelming Is it just me or does the iPhone appear to have hit a plateau? I’m not an Apple hater. I have the 4S like a big chunk of you, the latest Mac Air and a Touch somewhere. Yet, I

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2012-09-14 Thread Scott Howell
will be accessible, we always seem to be lagging a bit on that front. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 11:06 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: i5 Underwhelming

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2012-09-14 Thread David Chittenden
for the thread to balloon into a negative rant. I was just offering some views from a consumer's viewpoint. Joe From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Watson Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 7:59 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: i5

Re: i5 Underwhelming

2012-09-14 Thread David Chittenden
, running at 1.2GHZ. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 9:41 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: i5 Underwhelming My question would be, what did you want it to include

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2012-09-14 Thread David Chittenden
. Other than that I think they did what they needed to do. Jonathan -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Friday, 14 September 2012 2:41 p.m. To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: i5 Underwhelming

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2012-09-14 Thread Joanne Chua
@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Friday, 14 September 2012 2:41 p.m. To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: i5 Underwhelming My question would be, what did you want it to include that it did not? To some of us it is worth it to have LTE support verses not with the old models

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2012-09-14 Thread Daniel Miller
device. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joanne Chua Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 6:04 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: i5 Underwhelming Hi there, I think what a little disappoint me

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2012-09-14 Thread M. Taylor
@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: i5 Underwhelming Mark, What do you mean by The fact that Apple thinks it's cool to be able to manipulate iTunes playlists in a slightly new way says more about their lack of innovation How is manipulating playlists a lack of innovation? Since iTunes is really a small

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2012-09-14 Thread Scott Howell
which it travels. Mark -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 1:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: i5 Underwhelming Mark, What do you mean by The fact

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2012-09-14 Thread Ricardo Walker
wheel, they no longer own the road upon which it travels. Mark -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 1:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: i5 Underwhelming

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2012-09-14 Thread Daniel Miller
to support wideband audio. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 7:22 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: i5 Underwhelming Hi Mark and all. One feature which I want to try

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2012-09-14 Thread Jesus Garcia
to the new phone. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick Alfaro Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 15:34 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: i5 Underwhelming Honestly, I don't agree. I have a 4s and the only reason I'm not upgrading is because

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2012-09-14 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Joanne, I have not noticed a significant improvement with OCR and barcode scanning apps between my iPhone 4 with a 5 MP camera and my iPhone 4S with an 8 MP campera and many other improvements in the camera/image processing. I think how well or not well many of these apps work depends on

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2012-09-14 Thread James Mannion
, September 13, 2012 7:38 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: i5 Underwhelming Is it just me or does the iPhone appear to have hit a plateau? I'm not an Apple hater. I have the 4S like a big chunk of you, the latest Mac Air and a Touch somewhere. Yet, I was honestly underwhelmed by this latest

i5 Underwhelming

2012-09-13 Thread Joe
Is it just me or does the iPhone appear to have hit a plateau? I'm not an Apple hater. I have the 4S like a big chunk of you, the latest Mac Air and a Touch somewhere. Yet, I was honestly underwhelmed by this latest model. The hardware will finally look attractive, unlike the current ugly boxy

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2012-09-13 Thread Keith Watson
Joe, It's evolutionary, not revolutionary. A6 quad core processor and a gig of ram is sexy enough for me to trade in my 4s for the 5. Keith On Sep 13, 2012, at 7:37 PM, Joe jsoro...@gmail.com wrote: Is it just me or does the iPhone appear to have hit a plateau? I’m not an Apple hater. I

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2012-09-13 Thread Joe
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Watson Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 7:59 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: i5 Underwhelming Joe, It's evolutionary, not revolutionary. A6 quad core processor and a gig of ram is sexy enough for me to trade in my 4s

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2012-09-13 Thread James Mannion
Of Keith Watson Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 7:59 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: i5 Underwhelming Joe, It's evolutionary, not revolutionary. A6 quad core processor and a gig of ram is sexy enough for me to trade in my 4s for the 5. Keith On Sep 13, 2012, at 7:37 PM

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2012-09-13 Thread Daniel Miller
The A6 isn't quad-core, it's only dual-core, running at 1.2GHZ. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 9:41 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: i5 Underwhelming My question

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2012-09-13 Thread James Mannion
, running at 1.2GHZ. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 9:41 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: i5 Underwhelming My question would be, what did you want

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2012-09-13 Thread Allison Mervis
Keep in mind guys, that Apple doesn't really need to re-invent the wheel, because they have, in a sense already invented the wheel. At this point, they're just improving upon something that is already wildly popular and a downright joy to use. Allison On Sep 13, 2012, at 4:58 PM, Keith Watson