RE: Low-cost peripherals for the iPhone 7

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I believe the only splitter which plugs into your Lightning port and then 
allows you to plug in a Lightning headset as well as a charge cable at the same 
time into the two female ends is one from Belkin which is $40.

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Devin Prater
Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2017 5:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Low-cost peripherals for the iPhone 7

Hi all. I got a 128 Gigabyte iPhone 7 last weekend. It did come with the 
Lightning Earpods. Sometimes I do wish I could charge and listen at the same 
time, without Bluetooth of course. Other essentials are welcome too though, but 
hopefully we can stay beneath $15. So, any adaptors, chargers, or anything 
y'all recommend?

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - CNET

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Robin,

First of all, let’s just wait and see, I highly doubt Apple will totally drop 
Touch Id even if they have face recognition figured out. We’ll know next 
Tuesday.
As for how a blind person should do this, well, as Alex says, it’s not that 
difficult to point your phone towards your face from a foot or 2 away.
I would say it’s probably a lot easier than to make sure all 4 edges of  a page 
are visible when you want to perform OCR on a document and while KNFB Reader 
provides feedback, even that is not too hard with a bit of practice without 
voice guidance.
Apart from that, reports say that it will even work with the phone lying on a 
table pointing straight up and you sitting on a chair in front of the table, 
let’s not forget that cameras do see more than what is straight in front of 
them.
If you follow the rumours you find out that they are such that Apple is using a 
special type of camera which can distinguish between a live face and a photo, I 
think they are talking about infrared or something like that which obviously 
would then probably sense body heat and more. Rumours also are that using face 
recognition as Apple has implemented it will be much more secure than Touch Id 
and even faster.
One thing I wonder of course is how Apple might prevent a couple of guys 
grabbing somebody, taking their phone away from them and simply pointing it to 
their face which would then unlock it. Of course if any sort of violence or 
force was used it would also be possible to unlock with Touch Id even against 
somebody’s consent, if you were twisting and moving your hand so it wouldn’t 
read all the offenders would have to do is whack you on the head and knock you 
out, then they can use your fingers all they want and when it comes right down 
to it I bet most people would happily provide their unlock code if any pain was 
inflicted.
Apparently Apple is building one safeguard into iOS 11 and that is that if you 
press the home button (or maybe the power button if there is no more home 
button) I think 5 times quickly Touch Id and Face Recognition will be disabled 
and you will be required to enter your passcode. This of course can be done in 
about 2 seconds or so and it definitely is some protection if you think you are 
in any immediate danger to have your phone taken away.

Regards,
Sieghard

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alex.st...@gmail.com
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - CNET

Have you ever tried? It’s not that hard.

Get Outlook for iOS


On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 6:21 PM +0100, "Robin" 
> wrote:

In MyHumble Opinion, the ONLY alternative  is to make The Device

respond to a Specific Person's Voice & Only their Voice because

Facial Recognition may Not be Secure in Terms of Privacy

Just Sayin

At 09:06 PM 9/6/2017, you wrote:

>they would really drop the ball in the area of accessibility if they

>did not which brings me to face recognition. they plan to make that

>accessible how?

>

>-Original Message- From: Sieghard Weitzel

>Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 00:01

>To: viphone@googlegroups.com

>Subject: RE: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest

>change - CNET

>

>I have little doubt that if there is no more physical home button

>that Apple will make the alternative virtual home button fully accessible.

>

>

>-Original Message-

>From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On

>Behalf Of M. Taylor

>Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 4:49 PM

>To: viphone@googlegroups.com

>Subject: RE: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest

>change - CNET

>

>Hello Larry,

>

>Many of Androids most popular devices, for many, many years, have

>not used a physical Home button.  Instead, they use soft, or

>on-screen) navigation buttons located on the bottom row of the

>display.  Unlike the S8 series, however, these navigation buttons

>were always available.  This is to say, they did not scroll off the display.

>

>Until the S 8 series, Samsung was the only major brand that used a

>physical Home button on all of its Android devices.

>

>None of my Android phones, with the exception of the S 6, have

>physical Home buttons; so I am no stranger to the

>technology.  However, I strongly believe that because of its

>physical Home button, I tended to gravitate towards my S 6 more than

>the others.

>

>Anyway, in the case of the new s 8 series, there is a soft home

>button located in the center bottom row of the display.

>With the S 8, unfortunately, the Home button can scroll off the

>screen. This is kind of a pain, to say the least--especially when

>one wishes to 

Re: AirPods, one year later: How Apple bet on our faces and won - CNET

[Janet Bell]

I like my earpods but I wish they were a little bit smaller not everyone has 
large earholes.  Janet


-Original Message- 
From: M. Taylor

Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 2:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: AirPods, one year later: How Apple bet on our faces and won - CNET

CNET News - Thursday, September 7, 2017 at 11:20 AM
AirPods, one year later: How Apple bet on our faces and won - CNET

Here we go again.
James Martin/CNET
A year ago, I put AirPods in my ears and they became a Reddit joke.
Cigarettes in my ears. Hipster jewelry. Mini vape pipes. Dorkwear. Hell no.
They were a Google Glass-level example of face-worn tech gone wrong.
And then, people starting wearing them.
After a September 2016 unveiling, AirPods didn't start shipping until
mid-December. As 2017 began, I slowly began to see others with AirPods... on
random street corners, in subways. Now they're approaching Apple Watch
levels of normalcy.
And all this time, I've been wearing them. The AirPods won me over. And,
while Apple hasn't given actual sales numbers, NPD reports that AirPods are
dominating the market, scooping up 85 cents of every dollar spent on truly
wireless headphones in 2017. In fact, they're still hard to get, with
shipping delays of 2-3 weeks.
As I look at the long white buds in my hand as we approach Apple's next
September event, I think about how AirPods made the journey from internet
joke to must-have gadget -- and what it means for the future.

They're convenient, if nothing else.
Sarah Tew/CNET
AirPods are practical. Unlike a weird pair of experimental smartglasses,
these are compact wireless headphones. The microphones are good for calls.
They're easy to carry, pretty easy to put on and take off and recharge.
They've stayed with me because of convenience, not fashion. The iPhone 7's
lack of a headphone jack forced the issue. Instead of carrying a weird pair
of Lightning headphones or a dongle I'll lose, at least AirPods can be used
with other Bluetooth devices.
Also, headphones are normal. Earbuds are normal. More advanced wireless buds
and stranger-looking headsets still feel more acceptable for me to throw on
my head than a pair of smartglasses.
AirPods are Apple's first experiment in face wearables. Apple's first
wearable, the Apple Watch, has a stylish -- even conservative -- design. It
looks fine, and you don't feel out of place wearing it versus a Swatch or a
Fitbit.
AirPods could be said to be Apple's second wearable -- and the first one
intended for your face. They're weird-looking. And yet, it doesn't seem to
matter. The experiment worked.
Carving out prominent design ideas on visible parts of people's bodies is
one thing, but having them be easy to use is a whole other challenge.
AirPods' control taps are primitive, but they're a step toward what could be
done on other devices: tap to connect, tap to navigate.
That could be why "hearables" are starting to be seen as a trend. If no one
can conquer optics on smartglasses yet, maybe in the meantime the ears are
the next step on the road to getting there. More active noise filters,
better AI. Maybe Apple keeps adding features to AirPods to advance them
beyond just being regular earphones.
A few years from now, Apple just might be ready to offer another face
wearable: "Apple Glasses." And even a semi-strange looking Apple smartglass
product may find a more sympathetic audience than Google Glass did, maybe
thanks to tens of millions of AirPods paving the way.
Will AirPods 2 be about fitness, or function, or both? Of course, Apple
smartglasses aren't imminent (we assume). But Apple's September 12 event is.
Will AirPods see a sequel as soon as next week? Or, simply, more colors? It
seems likely that Apple will bring up AirPods, because they're
cross-compatible with the iPhone and Apple Watch. They're mobile. They are,
in a way, a third product in the mobile lineup. And there are still
improvements to be made: better fit for sports, the possibility of added
controls for volume, better wireless connectivity and range (would Bluetooth
5 help?), and maybe just reducing their size a bit.
But whether or not we see AirPods 2 next week, the legacy of Apple's first
wireless headphones continue to loom large. Down the road, when Apple
(probably) makes smartglasses, AirPods will be seen as a tiny first step.
If Apple could do it with these dorky headphones, there's no telling what
could happen.
Goodbye, home button? Get ready for the iPhone's biggest change ever.
Apple event: What we expect at the big Sept. 12 iPhone (and more) launch.

Original Article at:
https://www.cnet.com/news/airpods-a-year-later-not-a-joke-anymore/#ftag=CAD5
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Re: Storm tracker... anyone know of an accessible app?

[Ed Worrell]

Hello all,

You could try the weather app “Weather Gods”

You can set many different locations and save alerts for all of them.

App Store link:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/weather-gods/id1041512978?mt=8 


The applications developer is very accessibility orientated, and has made every 
feature accessible to VoiceOver users.

Ed
> On Sep 7, 2017, at 8:11 AM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
> 
> Hi all.
> While I am not in the path of any hurricanes, I have family and friends who 
> are. Can anyone please point me to an accessible app that allows me to track 
> a storm? 
> Thanks.
> Jen
> 
> 
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RE: A Question About Changing/Selecting TTS Reading Voices in the iOS K N F B Reader App

[M. Taylor]

Okay, Uninstalling, rebooting the device, and then reinstalling the app, fixed 
the problem.

Mark


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M. Taylor
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 6:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A Question About Changing/Selecting TTS Reading Voices in the iOS 
K N F B Reader App

Hi Richard,

At this point, nothing I do seems to make any difference.  I cannot get the TTS 
voice to change.

I'll try uninstalling/Reinstalling the app and hopefully, this will resolve the 
problem.

Mark
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Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 4:13 PM
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K N F B Reader App


Mark,
When I opened a document previously saved and double tapped on settings, then 
reading language, then english more info, and selected Daniel enhanced, it took 
effect immediately on that document and on the next scan, but previous 
documents were still my other voice.
This has always been a buggy setting in KNFB.
HTH,
Richard


> On Sep 7, 2017, at 2:20 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I am running the latest version of the K N F B Reader app on my iPhone 
> with the latest version of iOS.
> 
> Try as I may, I cannot get the app to successfully switch to any other 
> TTS reading voice but Samantha, Enhanced.
> 
> When I attempt to switch the reading voice to UK English, Daniel, 
> Enhanced, for example, all I hear is the default Samantha voice.
> 
> Does anyone know how to successfully switch voices in K N F B Reader?  
> 
> Just so you know, my default VoiceOver TTS is Samantha, Enhanced.  
> 
> All replies greatly appreciated.
> 
> Mark
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AirPods, one year later: How Apple bet on our faces and won - CNET

[M. Taylor]

CNET News - Thursday, September 7, 2017 at 11:20 AM
AirPods, one year later: How Apple bet on our faces and won - CNET
 
Here we go again.
James Martin/CNET 
A year ago, I put AirPods in my ears and they became a Reddit joke.
Cigarettes in my ears. Hipster jewelry. Mini vape pipes. Dorkwear. Hell no.
They were a Google Glass-level example of face-worn tech gone wrong.
And then, people starting wearing them.
After a September 2016 unveiling, AirPods didn't start shipping until
mid-December. As 2017 began, I slowly began to see others with AirPods... on
random street corners, in subways. Now they're approaching Apple Watch
levels of normalcy.
And all this time, I've been wearing them. The AirPods won me over. And,
while Apple hasn't given actual sales numbers, NPD reports that AirPods are
dominating the market, scooping up 85 cents of every dollar spent on truly
wireless headphones in 2017. In fact, they're still hard to get, with
shipping delays of 2-3 weeks. 
As I look at the long white buds in my hand as we approach Apple's next
September event, I think about how AirPods made the journey from internet
joke to must-have gadget -- and what it means for the future.
 
They're convenient, if nothing else.
Sarah Tew/CNET 
AirPods are practical. Unlike a weird pair of experimental smartglasses,
these are compact wireless headphones. The microphones are good for calls.
They're easy to carry, pretty easy to put on and take off and recharge.
They've stayed with me because of convenience, not fashion. The iPhone 7's
lack of a headphone jack forced the issue. Instead of carrying a weird pair
of Lightning headphones or a dongle I'll lose, at least AirPods can be used
with other Bluetooth devices.
Also, headphones are normal. Earbuds are normal. More advanced wireless buds
and stranger-looking headsets still feel more acceptable for me to throw on
my head than a pair of smartglasses. 
AirPods are Apple's first experiment in face wearables. Apple's first
wearable, the Apple Watch, has a stylish -- even conservative -- design. It
looks fine, and you don't feel out of place wearing it versus a Swatch or a
Fitbit.
AirPods could be said to be Apple's second wearable -- and the first one
intended for your face. They're weird-looking. And yet, it doesn't seem to
matter. The experiment worked.  
Carving out prominent design ideas on visible parts of people's bodies is
one thing, but having them be easy to use is a whole other challenge.
AirPods' control taps are primitive, but they're a step toward what could be
done on other devices: tap to connect, tap to navigate.
That could be why "hearables" are starting to be seen as a trend. If no one
can conquer optics on smartglasses yet, maybe in the meantime the ears are
the next step on the road to getting there. More active noise filters,
better AI. Maybe Apple keeps adding features to AirPods to advance them
beyond just being regular earphones.
A few years from now, Apple just might be ready to offer another face
wearable: "Apple Glasses." And even a semi-strange looking Apple smartglass
product may find a more sympathetic audience than Google Glass did, maybe
thanks to tens of millions of AirPods paving the way. 
Will AirPods 2 be about fitness, or function, or both? Of course, Apple
smartglasses aren't imminent (we assume). But Apple's September 12 event is.
Will AirPods see a sequel as soon as next week? Or, simply, more colors? It
seems likely that Apple will bring up AirPods, because they're
cross-compatible with the iPhone and Apple Watch. They're mobile. They are,
in a way, a third product in the mobile lineup. And there are still
improvements to be made: better fit for sports, the possibility of added
controls for volume, better wireless connectivity and range (would Bluetooth
5 help?), and maybe just reducing their size a bit.
But whether or not we see AirPods 2 next week, the legacy of Apple's first
wireless headphones continue to loom large. Down the road, when Apple
(probably) makes smartglasses, AirPods will be seen as a tiny first step.
If Apple could do it with these dorky headphones, there's no telling what
could happen.
Goodbye, home button? Get ready for the iPhone's biggest change ever.
Apple event: What we expect at the big Sept. 12 iPhone (and more) launch. 

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RE: How to add items to a list using Siri

[M. Taylor]

Hello Keith,

1.
>From within the Reminders app, create a list using a name that makes sense to 
>you.  For example, groceries; then, close the reminders app.  

2.
Now, when you want to add an item to the groceries list, simply say to Siri, 
"Add milk to groceries."  

It's really that simple.  

If you say, "Remind me to wash the car," however, it will be added to the 
generic Task list.  

You may have as many lists as you'd like.  

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 1:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How to add items to a list using Siri

Hi,

I’m not much of a Reminders user, or other similar app, but I would like to 
know if there’s a simple way to add items to a list using Siri. I’m thinking 
about a general go to list, and would like to just say something like, Hey 
Siri, add to list Call home.

Is there a way this can be done? And then later, adding to that list, Get 
bread. I don’t want to add anything like date, time, locations, just want to 
create a tickler list.

Thanks in advance. Keith
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RE: A Question About Changing/Selecting TTS Reading Voices in the iOS K N F B Reader App

[M. Taylor]

Hi Richard,

At this point, nothing I do seems to make any difference.  I cannot get the TTS 
voice to change.

I'll try uninstalling/Reinstalling the app and hopefully, this will resolve the 
problem.

Mark
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Richard Turner
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Question About Changing/Selecting TTS Reading Voices in the iOS 
K N F B Reader App


Mark,
When I opened a document previously saved and double tapped on settings, then 
reading language, then english more info, and selected Daniel enhanced, it took 
effect immediately on that document and on the next scan, but previous 
documents were still my other voice.
This has always been a buggy setting in KNFB.
HTH,
Richard


> On Sep 7, 2017, at 2:20 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I am running the latest version of the K N F B Reader app on my iPhone 
> with the latest version of iOS.
> 
> Try as I may, I cannot get the app to successfully switch to any other 
> TTS reading voice but Samantha, Enhanced.
> 
> When I attempt to switch the reading voice to UK English, Daniel, 
> Enhanced, for example, all I hear is the default Samantha voice.
> 
> Does anyone know how to successfully switch voices in K N F B Reader?  
> 
> Just so you know, my default VoiceOver TTS is Samantha, Enhanced.  
> 
> All replies greatly appreciated.
> 
> Mark
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Low-cost peripherals for the iPhone 7

[Devin Prater]

Hi all. I got a 128 Gigabyte iPhone 7 last weekend. It did come with the 
Lightning Earpods. Sometimes I do wish I could charge and listen at the same 
time, without Bluetooth of course. Other essentials are welcome too though, but 
hopefully we can stay beneath $15. So, any adaptors, chargers, or anything 
y'all recommend?

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Re: A Question About Changing/Selecting TTS Reading Voices in the iOS K N F B Reader App

[Richard Turner]

Mark,
When I opened a document previously saved and double tapped on settings, then 
reading language, then english more info, and selected Daniel enhanced, it took 
effect immediately on that document and on the next scan, but previous 
documents were still my other voice.
This has always been a buggy setting in KNFB.
HTH,
Richard


> On Sep 7, 2017, at 2:20 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I am running the latest version of the K N F B Reader app on my iPhone with
> the latest version of iOS.  
> 
> Try as I may, I cannot get the app to successfully switch to any other TTS
> reading voice but Samantha, Enhanced.  
> 
> When I attempt to switch the reading voice to UK English, Daniel, Enhanced,
> for example, all I hear is the default Samantha voice.  
> 
> Does anyone know how to successfully switch voices in K N F B Reader?  
> 
> Just so you know, my default VoiceOver TTS is Samantha, Enhanced.  
> 
> All replies greatly appreciated.
> 
> Mark
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RE: Creating folders

[Mr. Ed]

Here is some instructions I copied and saved.
How to move apps in IOS 10:
Here is my summary of how it works.
Touch the app you want to move. 
Flick up once and you should hear, Arrange apps.
double tap.
Then, do a two finger double tap and it should say something like choose a 
destination for the app.
Now, use your normal method to get to where you want the app.
If a different page, just do the three finger swipe to get there.
Touch where you want the app. Even if you want it in a folder, just touch the 
folder, don't open it.
Flick up with 1 finger and you will hear options like, place after x app, or 
before x app, or put in x folder, whatever you want to do, just double tap with 
one finger and wala, it is done.
HTH,


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Subject: Creating folders

Hello everyone,


How do I go about creating folders on my iPhone, or iPad?

For instance, say I wanted to put Netflix, and the Spectrum App in 1 folder, 
how do I make this happen?


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: Creating folders

[iDevice tutorials and demos]

Hi in iOS 10 you find the app you want to move then flick down 
untill you hear arrange apps. Double tap Flick down until you hear “move 
Netflix” double tap then VO should say “started moving Netflix then find the 
Timewarner app then flick down until you hear “create folder with Netflix and 
Time Warner 



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Hello everyone,


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For instance, say I wanted to put Netflix, and the Spectrum App in 1 
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Thank you,


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Creating folders

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Hello everyone,


How do I go about creating folders on my iPhone, or iPad?

For instance, say I wanted to put Netflix, and the Spectrum App in 1 
folder, how do I make this happen?


Thank you,


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Re: How to add items to a list using Siri

[Richard Turner]

Keith,
Try telling Siri, create a To Do list.
Then say add whatever to my to do list.
Then, at whatever point, you could ask Siri to read the to do list.
HTH,
Richard


On Sep 7, 2017, at 2:15 PM, Woody Anna Dresner 
> wrote:

Hi,
You can create a note and ask Siri to add to that note. You could create a 
checklist in that note if you like.

Best,
Anna


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 7, 2017, at 3:49 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
> wrote:

Hi,

I’m not much of a Reminders user, or other similar app, but I would like to 
know if there’s a simple way to add items to a list using Siri. I’m thinking 
about a general go to list, and would like to just say something like, Hey 
Siri, add to list Call home.

Is there a way this can be done? And then later, adding to that list, Get 
bread. I don’t want to add anything like date, time, locations, just want to 
create a tickler list.

Thanks in advance. Keith

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A Question About Changing/Selecting TTS Reading Voices in the iOS K N F B Reader App

[M. Taylor]

Hello All,

I am running the latest version of the K N F B Reader app on my iPhone with
the latest version of iOS.  

Try as I may, I cannot get the app to successfully switch to any other TTS
reading voice but Samantha, Enhanced.  

When I attempt to switch the reading voice to UK English, Daniel, Enhanced,
for example, all I hear is the default Samantha voice.  

Does anyone know how to successfully switch voices in K N F B Reader?  

Just so you know, my default VoiceOver TTS is Samantha, Enhanced.  

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark

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Re: How to add items to a list using Siri

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi,
You can create a note and ask Siri to add to that note. You could create a 
checklist in that note if you like.

Best,
Anna


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 7, 2017, at 3:49 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>  
> I’m not much of a Reminders user, or other similar app, but I would like to 
> know if there’s a simple way to add items to a list using Siri. I’m thinking 
> about a general go to list, and would like to just say something like, Hey 
> Siri, add to list Call home.
>  
> Is there a way this can be done? And then later, adding to that list, Get 
> bread. I don’t want to add anything like date, time, locations, just want to 
> create a tickler list.
>  
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RE: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - CNET

[Mr. Ed]

Hi,
Why don't all of us just wait and see what exactly Apple does instead of going 
through all this guessing and worrying.
Mr. Ed
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Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 1:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - CNET

as we are dealing with the face I thought the process would be somewhat less 
than strait forward.

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From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 00:15
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - CNET

How is it not accessible if all you have to do is look into the front camera?


-Original Message-
From: 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 9:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - 
CNET

they would really drop the ball in the area of accessibility if they did not 
which brings me to face recognition. they plan to make that accessible how?

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From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 00:01
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - 
CNET

I have little doubt that if there is no more physical home button that Apple 
will make the alternative virtual home button fully accessible.


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Of M. Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 4:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change -
CNET

Hello Larry,

Many of Androids most popular devices, for many, many years, have not used a
physical Home button.  Instead, they use soft, or on-screen) navigation
buttons located on the bottom row of the display.  Unlike the S8 series,
however, these navigation buttons were always available.  This is to say,
they did not scroll off the display.

Until the S 8 series, Samsung was the only major brand that used a physical
Home button on all of its Android devices.

None of my Android phones, with the exception of the S 6, have physical Home
buttons; so I am no stranger to the technology.  However, I strongly believe
that because of its physical Home button, I tended to gravitate towards my S
6 more than the others.

Anyway, in the case of the new s 8 series, there is a soft home button
located in the center bottom row of the display.
With the S 8, unfortunately, the Home button can scroll off the screen.
This is kind of a pain, to say the least--especially when one wishes to
quickly return to his/her starting point.

Apple tends to implement new technology with more flare and feasibility than
its competition.  Let's hope it continues that standard.

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 3:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change -
CNET

If apple removes the physical home button, how will the blind access it?


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of M. Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 5:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - CNET

Hello Everyone,

I hope you find the following article interesting.

As for me, I can tell you that I definitely miss a physical Home button,
with integrated Touch ID, on the Samsung Galaxy S 8, so much so, that I have
reverted back to my Galaxy S 6.

If Apple does remove a bezel-based Home button, I  certainly hope that it
comes up with a better design solution than Samsung.

Mark

CNET News - Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 1:14 PM Goodbye, home button?
Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - CNET

What will life be like without one of these? Maybe we already know the
answer.
Sarah Tew/CNET
When Apple unveils its new high-end iPhone on Sept. 12, it's widely expected
to do away with the most iconic part of its handset: the home button. If the
rumors are true, the all-screen design of the so-called iPhone 8 means no
room for a bottom bezel, and thus no room for a physical home button (and
its Touch ID fingerprint sensor). It will be the biggest design change to
hit the iPhone in its 10-plus year history -- a radical change to the most
basic usage element that has existed on the phone since day one.

A glyph that appears in the HomePod firmware could be the rumored iPhone 8.
MacRumors
Or maybe it won't be that shocking a change at all.
In fact, Apple has been nudging millions of iPhone owners with changes to
homescreen navigation for the past several years. There are already pieces
in place to suggest the 

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Re: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - CNET

['Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone]

as we are dealing with the face I thought the process would be somewhat less 
than strait forward.


-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 00:15
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - 
CNET


How is it not accessible if all you have to do is look into the front 
camera?



-Original Message-
From: 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 9:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - 
CNET


they would really drop the ball in the area of accessibility if they did not 
which brings me to face recognition. they plan to make that accessible how?


-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 00:01
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - 
CNET


I have little doubt that if there is no more physical home button that Apple 
will make the alternative virtual home button fully accessible.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of M. Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 4:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change -
CNET

Hello Larry,

Many of Androids most popular devices, for many, many years, have not used a
physical Home button.  Instead, they use soft, or on-screen) navigation
buttons located on the bottom row of the display.  Unlike the S8 series,
however, these navigation buttons were always available.  This is to say,
they did not scroll off the display.

Until the S 8 series, Samsung was the only major brand that used a physical
Home button on all of its Android devices.

None of my Android phones, with the exception of the S 6, have physical Home
buttons; so I am no stranger to the technology.  However, I strongly believe
that because of its physical Home button, I tended to gravitate towards my S
6 more than the others.

Anyway, in the case of the new s 8 series, there is a soft home button
located in the center bottom row of the display.
With the S 8, unfortunately, the Home button can scroll off the screen.
This is kind of a pain, to say the least--especially when one wishes to
quickly return to his/her starting point.

Apple tends to implement new technology with more flare and feasibility than
its competition.  Let's hope it continues that standard.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 3:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change -
CNET

If apple removes the physical home button, how will the blind access it?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of M. Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 5:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - CNET

Hello Everyone,

I hope you find the following article interesting.

As for me, I can tell you that I definitely miss a physical Home button,
with integrated Touch ID, on the Samsung Galaxy S 8, so much so, that I have
reverted back to my Galaxy S 6.

If Apple does remove a bezel-based Home button, I  certainly hope that it
comes up with a better design solution than Samsung.

Mark

CNET News - Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 1:14 PM Goodbye, home button?
Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - CNET

What will life be like without one of these? Maybe we already know the
answer.
Sarah Tew/CNET
When Apple unveils its new high-end iPhone on Sept. 12, it's widely expected
to do away with the most iconic part of its handset: the home button. If the
rumors are true, the all-screen design of the so-called iPhone 8 means no
room for a bottom bezel, and thus no room for a physical home button (and
its Touch ID fingerprint sensor). It will be the biggest design change to
hit the iPhone in its 10-plus year history -- a radical change to the most
basic usage element that has existed on the phone since day one.

A glyph that appears in the HomePod firmware could be the rumored iPhone 8.
MacRumors
Or maybe it won't be that shocking a change at all.
In fact, Apple has been nudging millions of iPhone owners with changes to
homescreen navigation for the past several years. There are already pieces
in place to suggest the transition may not be as wild and weird as you might
expect. Android phones have already done it, and the iPhone can do it too.
The current iPhone's no-click home button could be training wheels for how
the iPhone 8 will work Here's the funny thing: The iPhone's home button is
already gone. Instead of a physical button, 2016's iPhone 7 and 7 Plus
featured a solid-state 

Re: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - CNET

[alex . stone]

Have you ever tried? It’s not that hard.



Get Outlook for iOS





On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 6:21 PM +0100, "Robin"  wrote:










In MyHumble Opinion, the ONLY alternative  is to make The Device 
respond to a Specific Person's Voice & Only their Voice because 
Facial Recognition may Not be Secure in Terms of Privacy
Just Sayin
At 09:06 PM 9/6/2017, you wrote:
>they would really drop the ball in the area of accessibility if they 
>did not which brings me to face recognition. they plan to make that 
>accessible how?
>
>-Original Message- From: Sieghard Weitzel
>Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 00:01
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: RE: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest 
>change - CNET
>
>I have little doubt that if there is no more physical home button 
>that Apple will make the alternative virtual home button fully accessible.
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>Behalf Of M. Taylor
>Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 4:49 PM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: RE: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest 
>change - CNET
>
>Hello Larry,
>
>Many of Androids most popular devices, for many, many years, have 
>not used a physical Home button.  Instead, they use soft, or 
>on-screen) navigation buttons located on the bottom row of the 
>display.  Unlike the S8 series, however, these navigation buttons 
>were always available.  This is to say, they did not scroll off the display.
>
>Until the S 8 series, Samsung was the only major brand that used a 
>physical Home button on all of its Android devices.
>
>None of my Android phones, with the exception of the S 6, have 
>physical Home buttons; so I am no stranger to the 
>technology.  However, I strongly believe that because of its 
>physical Home button, I tended to gravitate towards my S 6 more than 
>the others.
>
>Anyway, in the case of the new s 8 series, there is a soft home 
>button located in the center bottom row of the display.
>With the S 8, unfortunately, the Home button can scroll off the 
>screen. This is kind of a pain, to say the least--especially when 
>one wishes to quickly return to his/her starting point.
>
>Apple tends to implement new technology with more flare and 
>feasibility than its competition.  Let's hope it continues that standard.
>
>Mark
>
>-Original Message-
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
>Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 3:32 PM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: RE: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest 
>change - CNET
>
>If apple removes the physical home button, how will the blind access it?
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>Behalf Of M. Taylor
>Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 5:26 PM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - CNET
>
>Hello Everyone,
>
>I hope you find the following article interesting.
>
>As for me, I can tell you that I definitely miss a physical Home 
>button, with integrated Touch ID, on the Samsung Galaxy S 8, so much 
>so, that I have reverted back to my Galaxy S 6.
>
>If Apple does remove a bezel-based Home button, I  certainly hope 
>that it comes up with a better design solution than Samsung.
>
>Mark
>
>CNET News - Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 1:14 PM Goodbye, home 
>button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - CNET
>
>What will life be like without one of these? Maybe we already know the answer.
>Sarah Tew/CNET
>When Apple unveils its new high-end iPhone on Sept. 12, it's widely 
>expected to do away with the most iconic part of its handset: the 
>home button. If the rumors are true, the all-screen design of the 
>so-called iPhone 8 means no room for a bottom bezel, and thus no 
>room for a physical home button (and its Touch ID fingerprint 
>sensor). It will be the biggest design change to hit the iPhone in 
>its 10-plus year history -- a radical change to the most basic usage 
>element that has existed on the phone since day one.
>
>A glyph that appears in the HomePod firmware could be the rumored iPhone 8.
>MacRumors
>Or maybe it won't be that shocking a change at all.
>In fact, Apple has been nudging millions of iPhone owners with 
>changes to homescreen navigation for the past several years. There 
>are already pieces in place to suggest the transition may not be as 
>wild and weird as you might expect. Android phones have already done 
>it, and the iPhone can do it too.
>The current iPhone's no-click home button could be training wheels 
>for how the iPhone 8 will work Here's the funny thing: The iPhone's 
>home button is already gone. Instead of a physical button, 2016's 
>iPhone 7 and 7 Plus 

Re: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - CNET

[Anthony Vece]

Apple hasn't let us down before. And, I don't think they'll let us down this 
time either.


Sent from my Verizon iPhone 7!!!

> On Sep 6, 2017, at 6:25 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I hope you find the following article interesting.
> 
> As for me, I can tell you that I definitely miss a physical Home button,
> with integrated Touch ID, on the Samsung Galaxy S 8, so much so, that I have
> reverted back to my Galaxy S 6.  
> 
> If Apple does remove a bezel-based Home button, I  certainly hope that it
> comes up with a better design solution than Samsung.
> 
> Mark
> 
> CNET News - Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 1:14 PM
> Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - CNET
> 
> What will life be like without one of these? Maybe we already know the
> answer.
> Sarah Tew/CNET 
> When Apple unveils its new high-end iPhone on Sept. 12, it's widely expected
> to do away with the most iconic part of its handset: the home button. If the
> rumors are true, the all-screen design of the so-called iPhone 8 means no
> room for a bottom bezel, and thus no room for a physical home button (and
> its Touch ID fingerprint sensor). It will be the biggest design change to
> hit the iPhone in its 10-plus year history -- a radical change to the most
> basic usage element that has existed on the phone since day one.
> 
> A glyph that appears in the HomePod firmware could be the rumored iPhone 8.
> MacRumors 
> Or maybe it won't be that shocking a change at all. 
> In fact, Apple has been nudging millions of iPhone owners with changes to
> homescreen navigation for the past several years. There are already pieces
> in place to suggest the transition may not be as wild and weird as you might
> expect. Android phones have already done it, and the iPhone can do it too.
> The current iPhone's no-click home button could be training wheels for how
> the iPhone 8 will work
> Here's the funny thing: The iPhone's home button is already gone. Instead of
> a physical button, 2016's iPhone 7 and 7 Plus featured a solid-state panel
> that used subtle vibration to simulate a button press. It initially drew
> mixed opinions: some felt the click was weird; others liked the haptic
> thump. But the point is, I got used to it, and most people I know did, too.
> It feels a bit like a real button, but it's not. And maybe that's how the
> iPhone 8 display will work, too.
> Enhanced vibration (called "Taptic Engine") give the iPhone and Apple Watch
> their taps and thumps, and it already does a few things on the iPhone 6S and
> later models to feel tactile in iOS 10 (scroll wheels in settings, or
> pressing in on app icons). Pressing in on a part of the screen will probably
> feel the same as pressing in on the solid-state home button does now. The
> bigger problem, of course, becomes how to relocate that Touch ID fingerprint
> sensor -- or come up with a replacement. (More on that below.)
> Control Center is an app launcher away from being the home button
> replacement
> iPhones currently stick four apps at the bottom of the home screen, locking
> them in place as you swipe to additional pages: useful, but inefficient.
> Swiping up for the Control Center usually accomplishes more, getting to
> settings and even some app shortcuts fast. Control Center is getting
> expanded in iOS 11, where it now offers a single page of user-configurable
> widgets and switches. But if that same updated Control Center page had a
> mini dock at the bottom for those same apps -- and/or a virtual home button
> -- it would basically be a one-stop shortcut. The problem with exiling the
> home button to the dock, though, is that it turns a single action --
> pressing the handy home button that we have now -- into a two-step process:
> swiping first and then clicking the screen. 
> 3D Touch could be better utilized for home screen shortcuts
> It still feels like the variable pressure-sensitive 3D Touch technology that
> iPhones 6S and later use is way underutilized, to the point where it feels
> unnecessary. But what if pressing down on the home screen opened up
> sublayers, or app folders beneath? Maybe pressing down on the bottom of the
> screen could launch back to the home area, or Control Center. 3D Touch is
> there, and it's theoretically versatile... now Apple just needs to put it to
> better use.
> 
> One-screen access to everything: is this is the post-home-button home
> screen?
> Sarah Tew/CNET 
> iOS 11 on the iPad could be a preview of a no-home button iPhone
> The iPad has already started exploring new ways of navigation in iOS 11.
> (The beta has been out since June, and the final version will likely be
> available in mid-September.) The app dock adds a lot of favorite apps for
> quick shortcuts, making better use of the iPad's additional screen real
> estate. It's not a massive change, but it's better than what it was in iOS
> 10, and better than the Touch Bar on recent MacBook Pros. The swipe-up app
> dock 

RE: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - CNET

[Robin]

Because Explain How a Totally & Completely Blind person can Perform 
the Task  of Aiming the Camera  at Their Face without Guidance (i.e., 
Verbal Prompts)

Plus
How is this Facial Recognition software supposed to Distinguish 
between An Actual Face as opposed to a Picture  of that Person's Face


Note:
Privacy & Security Concerns

Just Sayin
At 09:15 PM 9/6/2017, you wrote:

How is it not accessible if all you have to do is look into the front camera?


-Original Message-
From: 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 9:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest 
change - CNET


they would really drop the ball in the area of accessibility if they 
did not which brings me to face recognition. they plan to make that 
accessible how?


-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 00:01
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest 
change - CNET


I have little doubt that if there is no more physical home button 
that Apple will make the alternative virtual home button fully accessible.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of M. Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 4:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change -
CNET

Hello Larry,

Many of Androids most popular devices, for many, many years, have not used a
physical Home button.  Instead, they use soft, or on-screen) navigation
buttons located on the bottom row of the display.  Unlike the S8 series,
however, these navigation buttons were always available.  This is to say,
they did not scroll off the display.

Until the S 8 series, Samsung was the only major brand that used a physical
Home button on all of its Android devices.

None of my Android phones, with the exception of the S 6, have physical Home
buttons; so I am no stranger to the technology.  However, I strongly believe
that because of its physical Home button, I tended to gravitate towards my S
6 more than the others.

Anyway, in the case of the new s 8 series, there is a soft home button
located in the center bottom row of the display.
With the S 8, unfortunately, the Home button can scroll off the screen.
This is kind of a pain, to say the least--especially when one wishes to
quickly return to his/her starting point.

Apple tends to implement new technology with more flare and feasibility than
its competition.  Let's hope it continues that standard.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 3:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change -
CNET

If apple removes the physical home button, how will the blind access it?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of M. Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 5:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - CNET

Hello Everyone,

I hope you find the following article interesting.

As for me, I can tell you that I definitely miss a physical Home button,
with integrated Touch ID, on the Samsung Galaxy S 8, so much so, that I have
reverted back to my Galaxy S 6.

If Apple does remove a bezel-based Home button, I  certainly hope that it
comes up with a better design solution than Samsung.

Mark

CNET News - Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 1:14 PM Goodbye, home button?
Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - CNET

What will life be like without one of these? Maybe we already know the
answer.
Sarah Tew/CNET
When Apple unveils its new high-end iPhone on Sept. 12, it's widely expected
to do away with the most iconic part of its handset: the home button. If the
rumors are true, the all-screen design of the so-called iPhone 8 means no
room for a bottom bezel, and thus no room for a physical home button (and
its Touch ID fingerprint sensor). It will be the biggest design change to
hit the iPhone in its 10-plus year history -- a radical change to the most
basic usage element that has existed on the phone since day one.

A glyph that appears in the HomePod firmware could be the rumored iPhone 8.
MacRumors
Or maybe it won't be that shocking a change at all.
In fact, Apple has been nudging millions of iPhone owners with changes to
homescreen navigation for the past several years. There are already pieces
in place to suggest the transition may not be as wild and weird as you might
expect. Android phones have already done it, and the iPhone can do it too.
The current iPhone's no-click home button could be training wheels for how
the iPhone 8 will work Here's the funny thing: The iPhone's home button is
already gone. Instead of 

Re: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - CNET

[Robin]

In MyHumble Opinion, the ONLY alternative  is to make The Device 
respond to a Specific Person's Voice & Only their Voice because 
Facial Recognition may Not be Secure in Terms of Privacy

Just Sayin
At 09:06 PM 9/6/2017, you wrote:
they would really drop the ball in the area of accessibility if they 
did not which brings me to face recognition. they plan to make that 
accessible how?


-Original Message- From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 00:01
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest 
change - CNET


I have little doubt that if there is no more physical home button 
that Apple will make the alternative virtual home button fully accessible.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of M. Taylor

Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 4:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest 
change - CNET


Hello Larry,

Many of Androids most popular devices, for many, many years, have 
not used a physical Home button.  Instead, they use soft, or 
on-screen) navigation buttons located on the bottom row of the 
display.  Unlike the S8 series, however, these navigation buttons 
were always available.  This is to say, they did not scroll off the display.


Until the S 8 series, Samsung was the only major brand that used a 
physical Home button on all of its Android devices.


None of my Android phones, with the exception of the S 6, have 
physical Home buttons; so I am no stranger to the 
technology.  However, I strongly believe that because of its 
physical Home button, I tended to gravitate towards my S 6 more than 
the others.


Anyway, in the case of the new s 8 series, there is a soft home 
button located in the center bottom row of the display.
With the S 8, unfortunately, the Home button can scroll off the 
screen. This is kind of a pain, to say the least--especially when 
one wishes to quickly return to his/her starting point.


Apple tends to implement new technology with more flare and 
feasibility than its competition.  Let's hope it continues that standard.


Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin

Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 3:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest 
change - CNET


If apple removes the physical home button, how will the blind access it?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of M. Taylor

Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 5:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - CNET

Hello Everyone,

I hope you find the following article interesting.

As for me, I can tell you that I definitely miss a physical Home 
button, with integrated Touch ID, on the Samsung Galaxy S 8, so much 
so, that I have reverted back to my Galaxy S 6.


If Apple does remove a bezel-based Home button, I  certainly hope 
that it comes up with a better design solution than Samsung.


Mark

CNET News - Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 1:14 PM Goodbye, home 
button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - CNET


What will life be like without one of these? Maybe we already know the answer.
Sarah Tew/CNET
When Apple unveils its new high-end iPhone on Sept. 12, it's widely 
expected to do away with the most iconic part of its handset: the 
home button. If the rumors are true, the all-screen design of the 
so-called iPhone 8 means no room for a bottom bezel, and thus no 
room for a physical home button (and its Touch ID fingerprint 
sensor). It will be the biggest design change to hit the iPhone in 
its 10-plus year history -- a radical change to the most basic usage 
element that has existed on the phone since day one.


A glyph that appears in the HomePod firmware could be the rumored iPhone 8.
MacRumors
Or maybe it won't be that shocking a change at all.
In fact, Apple has been nudging millions of iPhone owners with 
changes to homescreen navigation for the past several years. There 
are already pieces in place to suggest the transition may not be as 
wild and weird as you might expect. Android phones have already done 
it, and the iPhone can do it too.
The current iPhone's no-click home button could be training wheels 
for how the iPhone 8 will work Here's the funny thing: The iPhone's 
home button is already gone. Instead of a physical button, 2016's 
iPhone 7 and 7 Plus featured a solid-state panel that used subtle 
vibration to simulate a button press. It initially drew mixed 
opinions: some felt the click was weird; others liked the haptic 
thump. But the point is, I got used to it, and most people I know did, too.
It feels a bit like a real button, but it's not. And maybe that's 
how the iPhone 8 display will work, too.
Enhanced vibration 

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> 
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>  
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Alternative to Glassdoor app

[Dave Bahr]

Hi. Anyone know of a better alternative that's accessible to the Glassdoor app 
for finding jobs and reviewing companies? It turns out that Glassdoor's company 
search doesn't read me the name of the company, or the URL, just that there is 
a company name and a website URL. Then when I click on one, I have to repeat 
the search again to find another company. Of course, this is ridiculous and I 
put in a feedback comment to them. But I know indeed.com isn't much better. 
Maybe LinkedIn? Any other recs are welcome. Thanks. 

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Contacting Uber?

[Jim Portillo]

Good morning,

 

I'm wondering if anyone knows how one can directly contact Uber via email.
I use the Uber app on my iPhone all the time!  I keep being told that by
going to the help section in the app or website that I can contact them that
way or get my questions answered.  I've been going through all of the
sections since yesterday and can't seem to find what I'm seeking.  The help
section is great for general questions, but my question is specific that
needs a specific answer.

I know I used to be able to email them before, but I can't remember how or
where this is done.  If anyone can help me with specifics, that would be
fantastic!

Thanks much.

Jim

 

 

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RE: Storm tracker... anyone know of an accessible app?

[Mike Ulrich]

Hello all and prayers for those in Erma's path.

What I've done is crated a word doc titled: Mike's Hurricane Tracking Chart.

I've got my local latitude and longitude numbers for my location.
Plus various other Florida cities lat and long numbers too.
Then I've many Caribbean Island's lat and long numbers.
So at the top of the document for this current storm; Erma, I keep a running 
list of all the updates of this storm. IE: date and time of most current 
update, current lat and long numbers, current direction, current wind speed and 
minimum Barometric Pressure.

Then I check in about every hour or so with the National Hurricane Center's 
very accessible and easy to navigate webpage on the current hurricane, along 
with other current tropical systems. This website totally rocks.

Here's the link to that great webpage:
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/mobile/


If you go to this webpage with your IPhone, go down to the bottom of your 
screen and double tap on the Share Tab. Then scroll to "Add to home screen". 
Bingo; now you have a quick way to see what kind of hurricane or tropical storm 
action is going on.
I've actually created a folder on my home screen, titled "Mike's Weather 
Folder". I put this link right in that folder, along with several other weather 
apps and a local tide app.

If anyone would like a copy of my Hurricane Tracking Chart, with a lot of GPS 
numbers for different Florida cities and many Caribbean Islands so you can get 
a better visual on a hurricane's current location and track; just reply back 
and I'll send it to you.


Everyone please don't take this storm lightly. This is still a killer 
hurricane, but it's truly anyone's guess right now exactly where it will make 
landfall in Florida.

So, please as they say, keep a weather eye.

Michael D. Ulrich
Just an ordinary average blind guy!
Florida Council of the Blind
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Storm tracker... anyone know of an accessible app?

Hi all.
While I am not in the path of any hurricanes, I have family and friends who 
are. Can anyone please point me to an accessible app that allows me to track a 
storm? 
Thanks.
Jen


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Re: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - CNET

[Devin Prater]

3D touch, y'all. tripple press near the bottom of the screen to turn on 
Voiceover. Or, they may make the power button longer and make the lower half a 
home button.   

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 7, 2017, at 9:05 AM, lenron brown  wrote:
> 
> I don't like the idea of touch Id going away. It's nice to be able to
> just place my finger there and my phone unlocks or I log in an app. I
> don't want to have to rely on having to point the camera at my face to
> do all that.
> 
>> On 9/7/17, Mr. Ed  wrote:
>> You have to have an accessible face for that to work. LOL
>> Mr. Ed
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 11:15 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change -
>> CNET
>> 
>> How is it not accessible if all you have to do is look into the front
>> camera?
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 9:06 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change -
>> CNET
>> 
>> they would really drop the ball in the area of accessibility if they did not
>> which brings me to face recognition. they plan to make that accessible how?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 00:01
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change -
>> CNET
>> 
>> I have little doubt that if there is no more physical home button that Apple
>> will make the alternative virtual home button fully accessible.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of M. Taylor
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 4:49 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change -
>> CNET
>> 
>> Hello Larry,
>> 
>> Many of Androids most popular devices, for many, many years, have not used a
>> physical Home button.  Instead, they use soft, or on-screen) navigation
>> buttons located on the bottom row of the display.  Unlike the S8 series,
>> however, these navigation buttons were always available.  This is to say,
>> they did not scroll off the display.
>> 
>> Until the S 8 series, Samsung was the only major brand that used a physical
>> Home button on all of its Android devices.
>> 
>> None of my Android phones, with the exception of the S 6, have physical Home
>> buttons; so I am no stranger to the technology.  However, I strongly believe
>> that because of its physical Home button, I tended to gravitate towards my
>> S
>> 6 more than the others.
>> 
>> Anyway, in the case of the new s 8 series, there is a soft home button
>> located in the center bottom row of the display.
>> With the S 8, unfortunately, the Home button can scroll off the screen.
>> This is kind of a pain, to say the least--especially when one wishes to
>> quickly return to his/her starting point.
>> 
>> Apple tends to implement new technology with more flare and feasibility than
>> its competition.  Let's hope it continues that standard.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Larry Lumpkin
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 3:32 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change -
>> CNET
>> 
>> If apple removes the physical home button, how will the blind access it?
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of M. Taylor
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 5:26 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - CNET
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> I hope you find the following article interesting.
>> 
>> As for me, I can tell you that I definitely miss a physical Home button,
>> with integrated Touch ID, on the Samsung Galaxy S 8, so much so, that I have
>> reverted back to my Galaxy S 6.
>> 
>> If Apple does remove a bezel-based Home button, I  certainly hope that it
>> comes up with a better design solution than Samsung.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> CNET News - Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 1:14 PM Goodbye, home button?
>> Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - CNET
>> 
>> What will life be like without one of these? Maybe we already know the
>> answer.
>> Sarah Tew/CNET
>> When Apple unveils its new high-end iPhone on Sept. 12, it's widely expected
>> to do away with the most iconic part of its handset: the home button. If the
>> rumors are true, the all-screen design of the so-called iPhone 8 means no
>> room for a bottom bezel, and thus no room for a physical 

Re: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - CNET

[ליאל בן סימון]

Because that VoiceOver cant read this. There is no building ocr in ios.

נשלח מה-iPhone שלי

‫ב-7 בספט׳ 2017, בשעה 16:28, ‏‏Mr. Ed ‏ כתב/ה:‬

> You have to have an accessible face for that to work. LOL
> Mr. Ed
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 11:15 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - 
> CNET
> 
> How is it not accessible if all you have to do is look into the front camera?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 9:06 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - 
> CNET
> 
> they would really drop the ball in the area of accessibility if they did not 
> which brings me to face recognition. they plan to make that accessible how?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 00:01
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - 
> CNET
> 
> I have little doubt that if there is no more physical home button that Apple 
> will make the alternative virtual home button fully accessible.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> M. Taylor
> Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 4:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - 
> CNET
> 
> Hello Larry,
> 
> Many of Androids most popular devices, for many, many years, have not used a 
> physical Home button.  Instead, they use soft, or on-screen) navigation 
> buttons located on the bottom row of the display.  Unlike the S8 series, 
> however, these navigation buttons were always available.  This is to say, 
> they did not scroll off the display.
> 
> Until the S 8 series, Samsung was the only major brand that used a physical 
> Home button on all of its Android devices.
> 
> None of my Android phones, with the exception of the S 6, have physical Home 
> buttons; so I am no stranger to the technology.  However, I strongly believe 
> that because of its physical Home button, I tended to gravitate towards my S
> 6 more than the others.
> 
> Anyway, in the case of the new s 8 series, there is a soft home button 
> located in the center bottom row of the display.
> With the S 8, unfortunately, the Home button can scroll off the screen. 
> This is kind of a pain, to say the least--especially when one wishes to 
> quickly return to his/her starting point.
> 
> Apple tends to implement new technology with more flare and feasibility than 
> its competition.  Let's hope it continues that standard.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Larry Lumpkin
> Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 3:32 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - 
> CNET
> 
> If apple removes the physical home button, how will the blind access it?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> M. Taylor
> Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 5:26 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - CNET
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I hope you find the following article interesting.
> 
> As for me, I can tell you that I definitely miss a physical Home button, with 
> integrated Touch ID, on the Samsung Galaxy S 8, so much so, that I have 
> reverted back to my Galaxy S 6.
> 
> If Apple does remove a bezel-based Home button, I  certainly hope that it 
> comes up with a better design solution than Samsung.
> 
> Mark
> 
> CNET News - Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 1:14 PM Goodbye, home button? 
> Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - CNET
> 
> What will life be like without one of these? Maybe we already know the answer.
> Sarah Tew/CNET
> When Apple unveils its new high-end iPhone on Sept. 12, it's widely expected 
> to do away with the most iconic part of its handset: the home button. If the 
> rumors are true, the all-screen design of the so-called iPhone 8 means no 
> room for a bottom bezel, and thus no room for a physical home button (and its 
> Touch ID fingerprint sensor). It will be the biggest design change to hit the 
> iPhone in its 10-plus year history -- a radical change to the most basic 
> usage element that has existed on the phone since day one.
> 
> A glyph that appears in the HomePod firmware could be the rumored iPhone 8.
> MacRumors
> Or maybe it won't be that shocking a change at all.
> In fact, Apple has been nudging millions of iPhone owners with changes to 
> homescreen 

Re: Storm tracker... anyone know of an accessible app?

[Feliciano Godoy]

I use emergency by  American Red Cross. I use it for my surrounding  areas that 
I'm at for weather alerts. however, in the app you can add places. It may work 
for you. Check it out and let me know if it works for you.



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On Sep 7, 2017, at 7:13 AM, Aleeha Dudley 
> wrote:

Hi,
The only one that I know of that could do even close to what you are looking 
for is Dark Sky. It will tell you when rain is coming, as well as push severe 
weather warnings for the area you have selected. I’m not sure of any app that 
will accessibly let you track where a storm is, but would love to hear about 
one.
Aleeha
On Sep 7, 2017, at 9:11 AM, Jenifer Barr 
> wrote:

Hi all.
While I am not in the path of any hurricanes, I have family and friends who 
are. Can anyone please point me to an accessible app that allows me to track a 
storm?
Thanks.
Jen


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Re: Storm tracker... anyone know of an accessible app?

[Aleeha Dudley]

Hi, 
The only one that I know of that could do even close to what you are looking 
for is Dark Sky. It will tell you when rain is coming, as well as push severe 
weather warnings for the area you have selected. I’m not sure of any app that 
will accessibly let you track where a storm is, but would love to hear about 
one.
Aleeha
> On Sep 7, 2017, at 9:11 AM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
> 
> Hi all.
> While I am not in the path of any hurricanes, I have family and friends who 
> are. Can anyone please point me to an accessible app that allows me to track 
> a storm? 
> Thanks.
> Jen
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Storm tracker... anyone know of an accessible app?

[Jenifer Barr]

Hi all.
While I am not in the path of any hurricanes, I have family and friends who 
are. Can anyone please point me to an accessible app that allows me to track a 
storm? 
Thanks.
Jen


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Re: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - CNET

[lenron brown]

I don't like the idea of touch Id going away. It's nice to be able to
just place my finger there and my phone unlocks or I log in an app. I
don't want to have to rely on having to point the camera at my face to
do all that.

On 9/7/17, Mr. Ed  wrote:
> You have to have an accessible face for that to work. LOL
> Mr. Ed
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 11:15 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change -
> CNET
>
> How is it not accessible if all you have to do is look into the front
> camera?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 9:06 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change -
> CNET
>
> they would really drop the ball in the area of accessibility if they did not
> which brings me to face recognition. they plan to make that accessible how?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 00:01
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change -
> CNET
>
> I have little doubt that if there is no more physical home button that Apple
> will make the alternative virtual home button fully accessible.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 4:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change -
> CNET
>
> Hello Larry,
>
> Many of Androids most popular devices, for many, many years, have not used a
> physical Home button.  Instead, they use soft, or on-screen) navigation
> buttons located on the bottom row of the display.  Unlike the S8 series,
> however, these navigation buttons were always available.  This is to say,
> they did not scroll off the display.
>
> Until the S 8 series, Samsung was the only major brand that used a physical
> Home button on all of its Android devices.
>
> None of my Android phones, with the exception of the S 6, have physical Home
> buttons; so I am no stranger to the technology.  However, I strongly believe
> that because of its physical Home button, I tended to gravitate towards my
> S
> 6 more than the others.
>
> Anyway, in the case of the new s 8 series, there is a soft home button
> located in the center bottom row of the display.
> With the S 8, unfortunately, the Home button can scroll off the screen.
> This is kind of a pain, to say the least--especially when one wishes to
> quickly return to his/her starting point.
>
> Apple tends to implement new technology with more flare and feasibility than
> its competition.  Let's hope it continues that standard.
>
> Mark
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Larry Lumpkin
> Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 3:32 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change -
> CNET
>
> If apple removes the physical home button, how will the blind access it?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 5:26 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - CNET
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I hope you find the following article interesting.
>
> As for me, I can tell you that I definitely miss a physical Home button,
> with integrated Touch ID, on the Samsung Galaxy S 8, so much so, that I have
> reverted back to my Galaxy S 6.
>
> If Apple does remove a bezel-based Home button, I  certainly hope that it
> comes up with a better design solution than Samsung.
>
> Mark
>
> CNET News - Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 1:14 PM Goodbye, home button?
> Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - CNET
>
> What will life be like without one of these? Maybe we already know the
> answer.
> Sarah Tew/CNET
> When Apple unveils its new high-end iPhone on Sept. 12, it's widely expected
> to do away with the most iconic part of its handset: the home button. If the
> rumors are true, the all-screen design of the so-called iPhone 8 means no
> room for a bottom bezel, and thus no room for a physical home button (and
> its Touch ID fingerprint sensor). It will be the biggest design change to
> hit the iPhone in its 10-plus year history -- a radical change to the most
> basic usage element that has existed on the phone since day one.
>
> A glyph that appears in the HomePod firmware could be the rumored iPhone 8.
> MacRumors
> Or maybe it won't be that shocking a change at all.
> In fact, Apple has been nudging 

RE: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - CNET

[Mr. Ed]

You have to have an accessible face for that to work. LOL
Mr. Ed

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 11:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - CNET

How is it not accessible if all you have to do is look into the front camera?


-Original Message-
From: 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 9:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - CNET

they would really drop the ball in the area of accessibility if they did not 
which brings me to face recognition. they plan to make that accessible how?

-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 00:01
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - CNET

I have little doubt that if there is no more physical home button that Apple 
will make the alternative virtual home button fully accessible.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 4:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - CNET

Hello Larry,

Many of Androids most popular devices, for many, many years, have not used a 
physical Home button.  Instead, they use soft, or on-screen) navigation buttons 
located on the bottom row of the display.  Unlike the S8 series, however, these 
navigation buttons were always available.  This is to say, they did not scroll 
off the display.

Until the S 8 series, Samsung was the only major brand that used a physical 
Home button on all of its Android devices.

None of my Android phones, with the exception of the S 6, have physical Home 
buttons; so I am no stranger to the technology.  However, I strongly believe 
that because of its physical Home button, I tended to gravitate towards my S
6 more than the others.

Anyway, in the case of the new s 8 series, there is a soft home button located 
in the center bottom row of the display.
With the S 8, unfortunately, the Home button can scroll off the screen. 
This is kind of a pain, to say the least--especially when one wishes to quickly 
return to his/her starting point.

Apple tends to implement new technology with more flare and feasibility than 
its competition.  Let's hope it continues that standard.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 3:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - CNET

If apple removes the physical home button, how will the blind access it?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 5:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - CNET

Hello Everyone,

I hope you find the following article interesting.

As for me, I can tell you that I definitely miss a physical Home button, with 
integrated Touch ID, on the Samsung Galaxy S 8, so much so, that I have 
reverted back to my Galaxy S 6.

If Apple does remove a bezel-based Home button, I  certainly hope that it comes 
up with a better design solution than Samsung.

Mark

CNET News - Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 1:14 PM Goodbye, home button? 
Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - CNET

What will life be like without one of these? Maybe we already know the answer.
Sarah Tew/CNET
When Apple unveils its new high-end iPhone on Sept. 12, it's widely expected to 
do away with the most iconic part of its handset: the home button. If the 
rumors are true, the all-screen design of the so-called iPhone 8 means no room 
for a bottom bezel, and thus no room for a physical home button (and its Touch 
ID fingerprint sensor). It will be the biggest design change to hit the iPhone 
in its 10-plus year history -- a radical change to the most basic usage element 
that has existed on the phone since day one.

A glyph that appears in the HomePod firmware could be the rumored iPhone 8.
MacRumors
Or maybe it won't be that shocking a change at all.
In fact, Apple has been nudging millions of iPhone owners with changes to 
homescreen navigation for the past several years. There are already pieces in 
place to suggest the transition may not be as wild and weird as you might 
expect. Android phones have already done it, and the iPhone can do it too.
The current iPhone's no-click home button could be training wheels for how the 
iPhone 8 will work Here's the funny thing: The iPhone's home button is already 
gone. Instead of a physical 

Trouble with Outlook, Braille Screen Input on iPhone 7

[Robert Hill]

Hi everyone,

I am trying to use Outlook email on an iPhone 7 with Braille Screen Input.
I am running iOS version 10.3.3, and Outlook version 2.39.0.

When using Braille Screen Input, I can enter the recipient’s address, and the 
email subject with no problems.

However, whenever I go to the composition area, the keystrokes I enter are not 
displayed.
What I see is the signature at the bottom, and it is spoken that my cursor is 
at location “such and such, indicating that my cursor has moved, but no 
characters are displayed.

I am wondering if anyone else is having this type of issue.

I like the app, but really would not have to use the onscreen keyboard, or have 
to purchase a bluetooth keyboard to compose messages.

If anyone else is having this kind of issue please let me know, or if you have 
a solution, please pass this along too.

Thanks.

Bob Hill


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