Re: Messages question for when you want to send a message to someone using the iPhone.

[Jenny Bomareto]

Thanks so much for all your assistance everybody it worked like a charm. I 
tried it in the middle like some people suggested but I guess it’s more on the 
right hand side of the screen but regardless it worked that’s what’s most 
important. Thank you again.

Thanks for your prompt attention!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 18, 2021, at 1:16 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> Exactly as I wrote!
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 7:15 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Messages question for when you want to send a message to someone 
> using the iPhone.
>  
> well, it is easier than I had written, but it still takes one more step.
> I opened a text message, double tapped on the phone number at the top middle, 
> then on the info button, but I then had to double tap on another info button 
> before the option to add to contacts came up.
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
> 
> 
> On Mar 17, 2021, at 6:48 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> This has actually changed in iOS 14. All I have to do is tap on the phone 
> number at the top in the middle, then find the Info button, double tap on it 
> and instead of double tappig on the phone number again, the next screen has 
> another Info button, tap it again and then the options to create a new 
> contact or add to an existing contact will come up.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 9:30 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Messages question for when you want to send a message to someone 
> using the iPhone.
>  
> This is my experience with doing that.  It may be easier than this, but here 
> goes:
> Adding a contact from a text message
>  
> Open the text message.
>  
> Then double tap on the phone number.
> Then, double tap on the phone number again.
> Then flick right to the info button and double tap.
> You have to then double tap again on the number before you find the create
> contact option where it usually shows up.
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>  
>  
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jenny 
> Bomareto
> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 9:23 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Messages question for when you want to send a message to someone 
> using the iPhone.
>  
> Yes.
> 
> Thanks for your prompt attention!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
> 
> On Mar 17, 2021, at 11:53 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Are you trying to add this person to your contacts?
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>  
>  
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jenny 
> Bomareto
> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 7:10 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Messages question for when you want to send a message to someone 
> using the iPhone.
>  
> Hello all,
>  
> So like say yesterday a friend texted me with her phone number so with this 
> being said how do I get in there in the Messages program to edit it just like 
> you do with the phone when somebody calls you?
>  
> Now don’t ask me how this happened, last week somehow I got into it in the 
> Messages program and was able to create a new contact in the Messages 
> program. Hope I didn’t confuse you with my explanations. Thanks in advance 
> for your help.
>  
> Thanks for your prompt attention!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Messages question for when you want to send a message to someone using the iPhone.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Exactly as I wrote!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 7:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Messages question for when you want to send a message to someone 
using the iPhone.

well, it is easier than I had written, but it still takes one more step.
I opened a text message, double tapped on the phone number at the top middle, 
then on the info button, but I then had to double tap on another info button 
before the option to add to contacts came up.


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy


On Mar 17, 2021, at 6:48 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

This has actually changed in iOS 14. All I have to do is tap on the phone 
number at the top in the middle, then find the Info button, double tap on it 
and instead of double tappig on the phone number again, the next screen has 
another Info button, tap it again and then the options to create a new contact 
or add to an existing contact will come up.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 9:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Messages question for when you want to send a message to someone 
using the iPhone.

This is my experience with doing that.  It may be easier than this, but here 
goes:
Adding a contact from a text message

Open the text message.

Then double tap on the phone number.
Then, double tap on the phone number again.
Then flick right to the info button and double tap.
You have to then double tap again on the number before you find the create
contact option where it usually shows up.





Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Jenny 
Bomareto
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 9:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Messages question for when you want to send a message to someone 
using the iPhone.

Yes.
Thanks for your prompt attention!

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 17, 2021, at 11:53 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Are you trying to add this person to your contacts?



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Jenny 
Bomareto
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 7:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Messages question for when you want to send a message to someone using 
the iPhone.

Hello all,

So like say yesterday a friend texted me with her phone number so with this 
being said how do I get in there in the Messages program to edit it just like 
you do with the phone when somebody calls you?

Now don’t ask me how this happened, last week somehow I got into it in the 
Messages program and was able to create a new contact in the Messages program. 
Hope I didn’t confuse you with my explanations. Thanks in advance for your help.

Thanks for your prompt attention!

Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Messages question for when you want to send a message to someone using the iPhone.

[Richard Turner]

well, it is easier than I had written, but it still takes one more step.
I opened a text message, double tapped on the phone number at the top middle, 
then on the info button, but I then had to double tap on another info button 
before the option to add to contacts came up.


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Mar 17, 2021, at 6:48 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


This has actually changed in iOS 14. All I have to do is tap on the phone 
number at the top in the middle, then find the Info button, double tap on it 
and instead of double tappig on the phone number again, the next screen has 
another Info button, tap it again and then the options to create a new contact 
or add to an existing contact will come up.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 9:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Messages question for when you want to send a message to someone 
using the iPhone.

This is my experience with doing that.  It may be easier than this, but here 
goes:
Adding a contact from a text message

Open the text message.

Then double tap on the phone number.
Then, double tap on the phone number again.
Then flick right to the info button and double tap.
You have to then double tap again on the number before you find the create
contact option where it usually shows up.





Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Jenny 
Bomareto
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 9:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Messages question for when you want to send a message to someone 
using the iPhone.

Yes.
Thanks for your prompt attention!

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 17, 2021, at 11:53 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Are you trying to add this person to your contacts?



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Jenny 
Bomareto
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 7:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Messages question for when you want to send a message to someone using 
the iPhone.

Hello all,

So like say yesterday a friend texted me with her phone number so with this 
being said how do I get in there in the Messages program to edit it just like 
you do with the phone when somebody calls you?

Now don’t ask me how this happened, last week somehow I got into it in the 
Messages program and was able to create a new contact in the Messages program. 
Hope I didn’t confuse you with my explanations. Thanks in advance for your help.

Thanks for your prompt attention!

Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Messages question for when you want to send a message to someone using the iPhone.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

This has actually changed in iOS 14. All I have to do is tap on the phone 
number at the top in the middle, then find the Info button, double tap on it 
and instead of double tappig on the phone number again, the next screen has 
another Info button, tap it again and then the options to create a new contact 
or add to an existing contact will come up.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 9:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Messages question for when you want to send a message to someone 
using the iPhone.

This is my experience with doing that.  It may be easier than this, but here 
goes:
Adding a contact from a text message

Open the text message.

Then double tap on the phone number.
Then, double tap on the phone number again.
Then flick right to the info button and double tap.
You have to then double tap again on the number before you find the create
contact option where it usually shows up.





Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Jenny 
Bomareto
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 9:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Messages question for when you want to send a message to someone 
using the iPhone.

Yes.
Thanks for your prompt attention!

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 17, 2021, at 11:53 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Are you trying to add this person to your contacts?



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Jenny 
Bomareto
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 7:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Messages question for when you want to send a message to someone using 
the iPhone.

Hello all,

So like say yesterday a friend texted me with her phone number so with this 
being said how do I get in there in the Messages program to edit it just like 
you do with the phone when somebody calls you?

Now don’t ask me how this happened, last week somehow I got into it in the 
Messages program and was able to create a new contact in the Messages program. 
Hope I didn’t confuse you with my explanations. Thanks in advance for your help.

Thanks for your prompt attention!

Sent from my iPhone
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[Jen .]

Hi I purchased a Paramount+ through my Samsung TV last week and used my seven 
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I try to install Paramount+ on my iPhone iPad and iPod touch and sign in with 
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I tap on restore purchase through iTunes it doesn’t work.
I also installed the app on both my third and fourth generation Apple TV boxes 
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if anyone can help me with this figuring out how to connect everything and make 
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I should I add that when I subscribe to it on my Samsung TV I went into the 
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RE: Apple reportedly cuts iPhone 12 mini production amid tepid demand

[Carolyn]

That was what I was wondering, Christopher, if I would have to pay a penalty 
for paying off my phone. 

I am satisfied with AT, but would like to see if I pay the phone off at no 
additional cost, if I could get a less expensive plan than around $70 a month. 
I do not need a whole lot of data. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 5:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple reportedly cuts iPhone 12 mini production amid tepid demand

I don't have a problem getting a device from a carrier and paying it off in 
installments. I'm not planning on changing my provider any time soon. Others 
want the flexibility to change providers if they find a better deal. I think 
some people also think it's cheaper to buy a phone outright then it is to pay 
it off in installments, but this doesn't seem to be the case with me and AT 
Paying off the device in installments is separate from your calling plan, at 
least it is today, so you don't pay a penalty for paying off your device early 
and then changing to a new carrier.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 3:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple reportedly cuts iPhone 12 mini production amid tepid demand

I'm not trying to compare them,
I'm just wondering why the likes of the uSA lock phones to the network,

Surely If you buy a phone with a contract from a provider then you are going to 
use that account / contract for the time it runs, Unless someone else comes out 
with a plan / contract that is so good you need to jump on it, Which as you say 
you could pay off but is that really going to be a forward thinking thing?

I'd expect that if you paid your contract off to get out of it, Then it would 
cost you more to break the contract terms.

Jumping around like that isn't a sensible idea to me,

But then I've had the same provider for a couple of years now and they are 
great to deal with and the service to my knowledge never goes out.
Mind you that might change with natural desasters 



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, 18 March 2021 4:15 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple reportedly cuts iPhone 12 mini production amid tepid demand

Simon,

You can't compare providers in NZ/Australia or Europe with North America 
although while here in Canada there aren't nearly as many choices as in Europe 
or even the US, we have a fairly regulated industry and 2 or 3 years ago our 
government oversight organisation ruled that providers can't lock their phones 
any more so now any phone you buy in Canada whether it's from Apple direct or a 
carrier has to be unlocked.
As for keeping your customers I never understood what locking a phone had to do 
with it especially if carriers have to unlock their phones for no charge after 
6 months or even after the contract is up. It's the contract which forces you 
to stick with your carrier for the duration of said contract not whether the 
phone is locked so even if I have an unlocked phone, if I received a phone for 
a discounted price in return for committing to a 2-year contract then I'm still 
locked in for 2 years and if I want out I have to pay out the contract.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 10:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple reportedly cuts iPhone 12 mini production amid tepid demand

Hey Richard,

We say a dogs breakfast here in NZ and I think they say the same in Australia 
also.

 You don't pay for 5g,
That's great,
I don't think my city has 5g yet let alone paying to have the service as well.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, 17 March 2021 11:23 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple reportedly cuts iPhone 12 mini production amid tepid demand

A "pig's breakfast", now I like that image for what Kelly's carrier did, grin.
If I jump to a 13, a big if since I just got the SE 2020 last year; I'm glad to 
know that my carrier, Xfinity does not charge for the 5 G service.
I too would buy from Apple direct then get the SIM from Xfinity.


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

> On Mar 16, 2021, at 3:11 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Kelly,
> 
> Just out of curiosity, who is your cell phone carrier because they made a 
> real pig's breakfast of your order and 

RE: Apple reportedly cuts iPhone 12 mini production amid tepid demand

[Christopher Chaltain]

I don't have a problem getting a device from a carrier and paying it off in 
installments. I'm not planning on changing my provider any time soon. Others 
want the flexibility to change providers if they find a better deal. I think 
some people also think it's cheaper to buy a phone outright then it is to pay 
it off in installments, but this doesn't seem to be the case with me and AT 
Paying off the device in installments is separate from your calling plan, at 
least it is today, so you don't pay a penalty for paying off your device early 
and then changing to a new carrier.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 3:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple reportedly cuts iPhone 12 mini production amid tepid demand

I'm not trying to compare them,
I'm just wondering why the likes of the uSA lock phones to the network,

Surely If you buy a phone with a contract from a provider then you are going to 
use that account / contract for the time it runs, Unless someone else comes out 
with a plan / contract that is so good you need to jump on it, Which as you say 
you could pay off but is that really going to be a forward thinking thing?

I'd expect that if you paid your contract off to get out of it, Then it would 
cost you more to break the contract terms.

Jumping around like that isn't a sensible idea to me,

But then I've had the same provider for a couple of years now and they are 
great to deal with and the service to my knowledge never goes out.
Mind you that might change with natural desasters 



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, 18 March 2021 4:15 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple reportedly cuts iPhone 12 mini production amid tepid demand

Simon,

You can't compare providers in NZ/Australia or Europe with North America 
although while here in Canada there aren't nearly as many choices as in Europe 
or even the US, we have a fairly regulated industry and 2 or 3 years ago our 
government oversight organisation ruled that providers can't lock their phones 
any more so now any phone you buy in Canada whether it's from Apple direct or a 
carrier has to be unlocked.
As for keeping your customers I never understood what locking a phone had to do 
with it especially if carriers have to unlock their phones for no charge after 
6 months or even after the contract is up. It's the contract which forces you 
to stick with your carrier for the duration of said contract not whether the 
phone is locked so even if I have an unlocked phone, if I received a phone for 
a discounted price in return for committing to a 2-year contract then I'm still 
locked in for 2 years and if I want out I have to pay out the contract.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 10:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple reportedly cuts iPhone 12 mini production amid tepid demand

Hey Richard,

We say a dogs breakfast here in NZ and I think they say the same in Australia 
also.

 You don't pay for 5g,
That's great,
I don't think my city has 5g yet let alone paying to have the service as well.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, 17 March 2021 11:23 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple reportedly cuts iPhone 12 mini production amid tepid demand

A "pig's breakfast", now I like that image for what Kelly's carrier did, grin.
If I jump to a 13, a big if since I just got the SE 2020 last year; I'm glad to 
know that my carrier, Xfinity does not charge for the 5 G service.
I too would buy from Apple direct then get the SIM from Xfinity.


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

> On Mar 16, 2021, at 3:11 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Kelly,
> 
> Just out of curiosity, who is your cell phone carrier because they made a 
> real pig's breakfast of your order and I wouldn't want to experience 
> something similar. I have much better luck buying my new iPhones directly 
> from apple.
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Kelly Pierce
> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 12:48 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple reportedly cuts iPhone 12 mini production amid 
> tepid demand
> 
> For those wondering, I originally planned to upgrade to an iPhone 12 Mini, 
> but my cell phone carrier sent me a regular iPhone 12 instead.
> It 

RE: Apple reportedly cuts iPhone 12 mini production amid tepid demand

[Christopher Chaltain]

Cellular providers don't do today what they did a few years ago when they 
subsidized the cost of your phone but locked you into a multiyear contract. 
Today you have a calling plan, which includes calls, texts, data and so on. You 
also have the option of buying your phone in installments, so you might pay 
$23.33 a month for 30 months to pay off a $699.99 phone. Once you pay off your 
phone then you're just paying for your calling plan.

In the old days there was no paying off your phone. You got a phone at a 
discount when you signed up for a particular contract. The price of that 
contract wouldn't change even after 36 or 48 months, long after you would have 
paid off your phone.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 2:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple reportedly cuts iPhone 12 mini production amid tepid demand

Let me ask you something about phone contracts. 

If you pay off one, does it cost you more? I got my 11 for $648 back in January 
of 2020 on a 30-month contract of $21.57. 

I'd like to pay it off and get on a less expensive calling plan. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 11:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple reportedly cuts iPhone 12 mini production amid tepid demand

Simon,

You can't compare providers in NZ/Australia or Europe with North America 
although while here in Canada there aren't nearly as many choices as in Europe 
or even the US, we have a fairly regulated industry and 2 or 3 years ago our 
government oversight organisation ruled that providers can't lock their phones 
any more so now any phone you buy in Canada whether it's from Apple direct or a 
carrier has to be unlocked.
As for keeping your customers I never understood what locking a phone had to do 
with it especially if carriers have to unlock their phones for no charge after 
6 months or even after the contract is up. It's the contract which forces you 
to stick with your carrier for the duration of said contract not whether the 
phone is locked so even if I have an unlocked phone, if I received a phone for 
a discounted price in return for committing to a 2-year contract then I'm still 
locked in for 2 years and if I want out I have to pay out the contract.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 10:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple reportedly cuts iPhone 12 mini production amid tepid demand

Hey Richard,

We say a dogs breakfast here in NZ and I think they say the same in Australia 
also.

 You don't pay for 5g,
That's great,
I don't think my city has 5g yet let alone paying to have the service as well.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, 17 March 2021 11:23 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple reportedly cuts iPhone 12 mini production amid tepid demand

A "pig's breakfast", now I like that image for what Kelly's carrier did, grin.
If I jump to a 13, a big if since I just got the SE 2020 last year; I'm glad to 
know that my carrier, Xfinity does not charge for the 5 G service.
I too would buy from Apple direct then get the SIM from Xfinity.


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

> On Mar 16, 2021, at 3:11 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Kelly,
> 
> Just out of curiosity, who is your cell phone carrier because they made a 
> real pig's breakfast of your order and I wouldn't want to experience 
> something similar. I have much better luck buying my new iPhones directly 
> from apple.
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Kelly Pierce
> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 12:48 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple reportedly cuts iPhone 12 mini production amid 
> tepid demand
> 
> For those wondering, I originally planned to upgrade to an iPhone 12 Mini, 
> but my cell phone carrier sent me a regular iPhone 12 instead.
> It took a few weeks to return the phone and receive a full refund. As it 
> turns out, the phone could not be returned without activating the new SIM 
> card sent with the iPhone 12. When the new SIM was activated, the SIM in my 
> iPhone 7 was instantly deactivated. Instead of giving me a new SIM for my 
> iPhone 7, the cell phone store put the iPhone 12 SIM in my iPhone 7. Because 
> the network showed the iPhone 12 

RE: Apple reportedly cuts iPhone 12 mini production amid tepid demand

[Simon A Fogarty]

I'm not trying to compare them,
I'm just wondering why the likes of the uSA lock phones to the network,

Surely If you buy a phone with a contract from a provider then you are going to 
use that account / contract for the time it runs,
Unless someone else comes out with a plan / contract that is so good you need 
to jump on it,
Which as you say you could pay off but is that really going to be a forward 
thinking thing?

I'd expect that if you paid your contract off to get out of it,
Then it would cost you more to break the contract terms.

Jumping around like that isn't a sensible idea to me,

But then I've had the same provider for a couple of years now and they are 
great to deal with and the service to my knowledge never goes out.
Mind you that might change with natural desasters 



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, 18 March 2021 4:15 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple reportedly cuts iPhone 12 mini production amid tepid demand

Simon,

You can't compare providers in NZ/Australia or Europe with North America 
although while here in Canada there aren't nearly as many choices as in Europe 
or even the US, we have a fairly regulated industry and 2 or 3 years ago our 
government oversight organisation ruled that providers can't lock their phones 
any more so now any phone you buy in Canada whether it's from Apple direct or a 
carrier has to be unlocked.
As for keeping your customers I never understood what locking a phone had to do 
with it especially if carriers have to unlock their phones for no charge after 
6 months or even after the contract is up. It's the contract which forces you 
to stick with your carrier for the duration of said contract not whether the 
phone is locked so even if I have an unlocked phone, if I received a phone for 
a discounted price in return for committing to a 2-year contract then I'm still 
locked in for 2 years and if I want out I have to pay out the contract.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 10:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple reportedly cuts iPhone 12 mini production amid tepid demand

Hey Richard,

We say a dogs breakfast here in NZ and I think they say the same in Australia 
also.

 You don't pay for 5g,
That's great,
I don't think my city has 5g yet let alone paying to have the service as well.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, 17 March 2021 11:23 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple reportedly cuts iPhone 12 mini production amid tepid demand

A "pig's breakfast", now I like that image for what Kelly's carrier did, grin.
If I jump to a 13, a big if since I just got the SE 2020 last year; I'm glad to 
know that my carrier, Xfinity does not charge for the 5 G service.
I too would buy from Apple direct then get the SIM from Xfinity.


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

> On Mar 16, 2021, at 3:11 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Kelly,
> 
> Just out of curiosity, who is your cell phone carrier because they made a 
> real pig's breakfast of your order and I wouldn't want to experience 
> something similar. I have much better luck buying my new iPhones directly 
> from apple.
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Kelly Pierce
> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 12:48 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple reportedly cuts iPhone 12 mini production amid 
> tepid demand
> 
> For those wondering, I originally planned to upgrade to an iPhone 12 Mini, 
> but my cell phone carrier sent me a regular iPhone 12 instead.
> It took a few weeks to return the phone and receive a full refund. As it 
> turns out, the phone could not be returned without activating the new SIM 
> card sent with the iPhone 12. When the new SIM was activated, the SIM in my 
> iPhone 7 was instantly deactivated. Instead of giving me a new SIM for my 
> iPhone 7, the cell phone store put the iPhone 12 SIM in my iPhone 7. Because 
> the network showed the iPhone 12 SIM in active use, the actual iPhone 12 SIM 
> return could not be processed.
> Eventually, the iPhone 12 SIM was deactivated and I returned to the cell 
> phone store to return my phone and have a new SIM put into my iPhone 7.  
> Apparently, cell phone companies are extremely picky associating the data 
> attached to each SIM to the exact device. Part of the issue is that the 
> iPhone 12 is a 5g device and needs to access certain frequencies 

Re: an accessible driving game

[Wendy Lin]

Thanks for your help guys.


> On Mar 17, 2021, at 2:46 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
> 
> I have heard of Blindfold games, but not Blindfold RS games.  I have heard of 
> RS Games, but that is a different platform.
>  
> Andy
>  
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Wendy Lin 
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 11:46 PM
>> Subject: Re: an accessible driving game
>> 
>> Speaking of games, does anybody know what happened to Blindfold RS Games? A 
>> friend of mine wants the iPhone app and I tried searching in the App Store 
>> for Blindfold RS Games to send the link to him. It showed me a list of other 
>> things like Game World, Blindfold games but not Blindfold RS Games. If any 
>> of you are able to find the app in the App Store can you please email me 
>> privately with the link to the app?
>> Thanks in advance.
>> 
>> Wendy
>> 
>>> On Mar 15, 2021, at 9:06 PM, Mich Verrier >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> It is a lot of fun search for Blind Drive from mich
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Mar 15, 2021, at 9:05 PM, Paul JOrdan >>> > wrote:
 
 
 Sounds like fun! I want to go to the app store, to search for it by name 
 so, what is the name of the game? Thanks.
 God bless!
 Paula and the pups
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 > On Behalf Of CJ & AA MAY
 Sent: Monday, March 15, 2021 4:00 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 Subject: RE: an accessible driving game
 Below I am posting part of an e-mail about an accessible driving game. I 
 found it a little fiddly initially to set up but it promises to be great 
 fun:
 Subject: A driving game!
 Below is a link to a fantastic driving game. 
 this is a fun and great audio game and it is so so immersive, you 
 absolutely feel you are in that car!are not left out of the loop, it is a 
 game where the storyline is built on the fact that you are driving blind 
 with a blindfold on, and is played purely using your ears. It has a good 
 bit of dark humour in it and great fun when you crash   , with messages 
 like perhaps you’d have better luck on the lawnmower!
 https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/blind-drive/id964294239 
 
 Alison
 From:viphone@googlegroups.com 
 > On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
 Sent: 15 March 2021 03:38
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 Subject: RE: Masks & Face ID
 It’s not rediculis, it’s fact,
 We handled things better than a lot of countrys and we celebrate the fact 
 that we have little if not any current cases of covid,
 It’s not our fault that some countrys leadership ignored the issues of 
 this virus,
 It’s like the saying,
 Kbolting the gate after the horse has bolted,
 May be you should point at your countries leadership and ask why they 
 didn’t do more to keep you safe from this virus,
 Plus we only have 5 million population,
 And incoming international traffic through 2 major centres,
 It’s easier to lock our country down than it is others,
 But it’s  also a benefit that our entire countries behind the keeping the 
 virus out.
 May be other countrys should take a look at how we and a couple of other 
 countrys 
 Have treated this globle situation,
 From:viphone@googlegroups.com 
 > On Behalf Of Marco Curralejo
 Sent: Monday, 15 March 2021 1:06 pm
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 Subject: RE: Masks & Face ID
 I’m sorry and I appreciate this topic is somewhat divisive, but when you 
 get a ridiculous post from anywhere regarding this matter, the list owner 
 should really pull the reigns on this one and not allow such an idiotic 
 post to even get on to the list.
 That’s all I have to say with regards to this stupidity.
 Marco
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RE: Apple reportedly cuts iPhone 12 mini production amid tepid demand

[Carolyn]

Let me ask you something about phone contracts. 

If you pay off one, does it cost you more? I got my 11 for $648 back in January 
of 2020 on a 30-month contract of $21.57. 

I'd like to pay it off and get on a less expensive calling plan. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 11:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple reportedly cuts iPhone 12 mini production amid tepid demand

Simon,

You can't compare providers in NZ/Australia or Europe with North America 
although while here in Canada there aren't nearly as many choices as in Europe 
or even the US, we have a fairly regulated industry and 2 or 3 years ago our 
government oversight organisation ruled that providers can't lock their phones 
any more so now any phone you buy in Canada whether it's from Apple direct or a 
carrier has to be unlocked.
As for keeping your customers I never understood what locking a phone had to do 
with it especially if carriers have to unlock their phones for no charge after 
6 months or even after the contract is up. It's the contract which forces you 
to stick with your carrier for the duration of said contract not whether the 
phone is locked so even if I have an unlocked phone, if I received a phone for 
a discounted price in return for committing to a 2-year contract then I'm still 
locked in for 2 years and if I want out I have to pay out the contract.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 10:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple reportedly cuts iPhone 12 mini production amid tepid demand

Hey Richard,

We say a dogs breakfast here in NZ and I think they say the same in Australia 
also.

 You don't pay for 5g,
That's great,
I don't think my city has 5g yet let alone paying to have the service as well.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, 17 March 2021 11:23 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple reportedly cuts iPhone 12 mini production amid tepid demand

A "pig's breakfast", now I like that image for what Kelly's carrier did, grin.
If I jump to a 13, a big if since I just got the SE 2020 last year; I'm glad to 
know that my carrier, Xfinity does not charge for the 5 G service.
I too would buy from Apple direct then get the SIM from Xfinity.


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

> On Mar 16, 2021, at 3:11 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Kelly,
> 
> Just out of curiosity, who is your cell phone carrier because they made a 
> real pig's breakfast of your order and I wouldn't want to experience 
> something similar. I have much better luck buying my new iPhones directly 
> from apple.
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Kelly Pierce
> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 12:48 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple reportedly cuts iPhone 12 mini production amid 
> tepid demand
> 
> For those wondering, I originally planned to upgrade to an iPhone 12 Mini, 
> but my cell phone carrier sent me a regular iPhone 12 instead.
> It took a few weeks to return the phone and receive a full refund. As it 
> turns out, the phone could not be returned without activating the new SIM 
> card sent with the iPhone 12. When the new SIM was activated, the SIM in my 
> iPhone 7 was instantly deactivated. Instead of giving me a new SIM for my 
> iPhone 7, the cell phone store put the iPhone 12 SIM in my iPhone 7. Because 
> the network showed the iPhone 12 SIM in active use, the actual iPhone 12 SIM 
> return could not be processed.
> Eventually, the iPhone 12 SIM was deactivated and I returned to the cell 
> phone store to return my phone and have a new SIM put into my iPhone 7.  
> Apparently, cell phone companies are extremely picky associating the data 
> attached to each SIM to the exact device. Part of the issue is that the 
> iPhone 12 is a 5g device and needs to access certain frequencies not used by 
> the 7. Therefore, it would be a waste of network resources to set aside 
> resources for my 7 on 5g frequencies when they cannot be used.
> 
> After the return was processed at the national service center, I was not 
> credited for my initial down payment so I needed to call customer service for 
> resolution.  Once my account issues were resolved, I discovered all the 256GB 
> iPhone Minis were on a more than two-week backorder.  Now it sounds like the 
> backorder has cleared, but it is about six 

Re: an accessible driving game

[Andy Baracco]

I have heard of Blindfold games, but not Blindfold RS games.  I have heard of 
RS Games, but that is a different platform.

Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Wendy Lin 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 11:46 PM
  Subject: Re: an accessible driving game


  Speaking of games, does anybody know what happened to Blindfold RS Games? A 
friend of mine wants the iPhone app and I tried searching in the App Store for 
Blindfold RS Games to send the link to him. It showed me a list of other things 
like Game World, Blindfold games but not Blindfold RS Games. If any of you are 
able to find the app in the App Store can you please email me privately with 
the link to the app?
  Thanks in advance.


  Wendy



On Mar 15, 2021, at 9:06 PM, Mich Verrier  wrote:


It is a lot of fun search for Blind Drive from mich


Sent from my iPhone


  On Mar 15, 2021, at 9:05 PM, Paul JOrdan  wrote:


  
  Sounds like fun! I want to go to the app store, to search for it by name 
so, what is the name of the game? Thanks.
  God bless!
  Paula and the pups

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CJ 
& AA MAY
  Sent: Monday, March 15, 2021 4:00 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: an accessible driving game

  Below I am posting part of an e-mail about an accessible driving game. I 
found it a little fiddly initially to set up but it promises to be great fun:

  Subject: A driving game!

  Below is a link to a fantastic driving game. 
  this is a fun and great audio game and it is so so immersive, you 
absolutely feel you are in that car!are not left out of the loop, it is a game 
where the storyline is built on the fact that you are driving blind with a 
blindfold on, and is played purely using your ears. It has a good bit of dark 
humour in it and great fun when you crash   , with messages like perhaps you’d 
have better luck on the lawnmower!

  https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/blind-drive/id964294239

  Alison




  From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
  Sent: 15 March 2021 03:38
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: Masks & Face ID

  It’s not rediculis, it’s fact,

  We handled things better than a lot of countrys and we celebrate the fact 
that we have little if not any current cases of covid,

  It’s not our fault that some countrys leadership ignored the issues of 
this virus,

  It’s like the saying,
  Kbolting the gate after the horse has bolted,


  May be you should point at your countries leadership and ask why they 
didn’t do more to keep you safe from this virus,

  Plus we only have 5 million population,
  And incoming international traffic through 2 major centres,

  It’s easier to lock our country down than it is others,

  But it’s  also a benefit that our entire countries behind the keeping the 
virus out.

  May be other countrys should take a look at how we and a couple of other 
countrys 
  Have treated this globle situation,


  From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of 
Marco Curralejo
  Sent: Monday, 15 March 2021 1:06 pm
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: Masks & Face ID

  I’m sorry and I appreciate this topic is somewhat divisive, but when you 
get a ridiculous post from anywhere regarding this matter, the list owner 
should really pull the reigns on this one and not allow such an idiotic post to 
even get on to the list.

  That’s all I have to say with regards to this stupidity.

  Marco

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  From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of 
Nimer Jaber
  Sent: Saturday, 13 March 2021 4:35 PM
  To: Viphone 
  Subject: Re: Masks & Face ID

  Posts like the below by Simon are dangerous, and should not be permitted 
on list. That's all I have to say on this topic.

  On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 9:33 PM Simon A Fogarty  
wrote:
Why do you need to wear face masks?

I have yet to buy or own a face mask and haven't worn one in the year 
that we've dealt with face masks,

 Don't even know anyone that has worn one,

Guess its one of the great things about living in the nation of New 
Zealand!



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of 
Kelly Pierce
Sent: Saturday, 13 March 2021 4:38 pm
To: 

RE: Messages question for when you want to send a message to someone using the iPhone.

[Richard Turner]

This is my experience with doing that.  It may be easier than this, but here 
goes:
Adding a contact from a text message

Open the text message.

Then double tap on the phone number.
Then, double tap on the phone number again.
Then flick right to the info button and double tap.
You have to then double tap again on the number before you find the create
contact option where it usually shows up.





Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jenny 
Bomareto
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 9:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Messages question for when you want to send a message to someone 
using the iPhone.

Yes.
Thanks for your prompt attention!

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 17, 2021, at 11:53 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Are you trying to add this person to your contacts?



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Jenny 
Bomareto
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 7:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Messages question for when you want to send a message to someone using 
the iPhone.

Hello all,

So like say yesterday a friend texted me with her phone number so with this 
being said how do I get in there in the Messages program to edit it just like 
you do with the phone when somebody calls you?

Now don’t ask me how this happened, last week somehow I got into it in the 
Messages program and was able to create a new contact in the Messages program. 
Hope I didn’t confuse you with my explanations. Thanks in advance for your help.

Thanks for your prompt attention!

Sent from my iPhone
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Yes.

Thanks for your prompt attention!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 17, 2021, at 11:53 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Are you trying to add this person to your contacts?
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>  
>  
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jenny 
> Bomareto
> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 7:10 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Messages question for when you want to send a message to someone 
> using the iPhone.
>  
> Hello all,
>  
> So like say yesterday a friend texted me with her phone number so with this 
> being said how do I get in there in the Messages program to edit it just like 
> you do with the phone when somebody calls you?
>  
> Now don’t ask me how this happened, last week somehow I got into it in the 
> Messages program and was able to create a new contact in the Messages 
> program. Hope I didn’t confuse you with my explanations. Thanks in advance 
> for your help.
>  
> Thanks for your prompt attention!
> 
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RE: Messages question for when you want to send a message to someone using the iPhone.

[Richard Turner]

Are you trying to add this person to your contacts?



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jenny 
Bomareto
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 7:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Messages question for when you want to send a message to someone using 
the iPhone.

Hello all,

So like say yesterday a friend texted me with her phone number so with this 
being said how do I get in there in the Messages program to edit it just like 
you do with the phone when somebody calls you?

Now don't ask me how this happened, last week somehow I got into it in the 
Messages program and was able to create a new contact in the Messages program. 
Hope I didn't confuse you with my explanations. Thanks in advance for your help.

Thanks for your prompt attention!

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Re: an accessible driving game

[Jed Barton]

Hey guys,
So right off the bat I'm having an issue with this blind drive game.
It said something about sign out of game center.  I click on the OK
button, and it does nothing.  Any ideas?

On 3/17/21, Johna Gravitt  wrote:
> Also if you search the ap store for blind fold games the app will come up
> and the developer is Marty Schultz.
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wendy
> Lin
> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 2:47 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: an accessible driving game
>
> Speaking of games, does anybody know what happened to Blindfold RS Games? A
> friend of mine wants the iPhone app and I tried searching in the App Store
> for Blindfold RS Games to send the link to him. It showed me a list of other
> things like Game World, Blindfold games but not Blindfold RS Games. If any
> of you are able to find the app in the App Store can you please email me
> privately with the link to the app?
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Wendy
>
>
> On Mar 15, 2021, at 9:06 PM, Mich Verrier
> mailto:mi...@eastlink.ca>> wrote:
>
> It is a lot of fun search for Blind Drive from mich
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Mar 15, 2021, at 9:05 PM, Paul JOrdan
> mailto:pau...@roadrunner.com>> wrote:
> 
> Sounds like fun! I want to go to the app store, to search for it by name so,
> what is the name of the game? Thanks.
> God bless!
> Paula and the pups
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of CJ
> & AA MAY
> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2021 4:00 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: an accessible driving game
>
> Below I am posting part of an e-mail about an accessible driving game. I
> found it a little fiddly initially to set up but it promises to be great
> fun:
>
> Subject: A driving game!
>
> Below is a link to a fantastic driving game.
> this is a fun and great audio game and it is so so immersive, you absolutely
> feel you are in that car!are not left out of the loop, it is a game where
> the storyline is built on the fact that you are driving blind with a
> blindfold on, and is played purely using your ears. It has a good bit of
> dark humour in it and great fun when you crash   , with messages like
> perhaps you’d have better luck on the lawnmower!
>
> https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/blind-drive/id964294239
>
> Alison
>
>
>
>
> From:
> viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
> On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: 15 March 2021 03:38
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Masks & Face ID
>
> It’s not rediculis, it’s fact,
>
> We handled things better than a lot of countrys and we celebrate the fact
> that we have little if not any current cases of covid,
>
> It’s not our fault that some countrys leadership ignored the issues of this
> virus,
>
> It’s like the saying,
> Kbolting the gate after the horse has bolted,
>
>
> May be you should point at your countries leadership and ask why they didn’t
> do more to keep you safe from this virus,
>
> Plus we only have 5 million population,
> And incoming international traffic through 2 major centres,
>
> It’s easier to lock our country down than it is others,
>
> But it’s  also a benefit that our entire countries behind the keeping the
> virus out.
>
> May be other countrys should take a look at how we and a couple of other
> countrys
> Have treated this globle situation,
>
>
> From:
> viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
> On Behalf Of Marco Curralejo
> Sent: Monday, 15 March 2021 1:06 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Masks & Face ID
>
> I’m sorry and I appreciate this topic is somewhat divisive, but when you get
> a ridiculous post from anywhere regarding this matter, the list owner should
> really pull the reigns on this one and not allow such an idiotic post to
> even get on to the list.
>
> That’s all I have to say with regards to this stupidity.
>
> Marco
>
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> up to you. Thanks.
>
> From:
> viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
> On Behalf Of Nimer Jaber
> Sent: Saturday, 13 March 2021 4:35 PM
> To: Viphone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
> Subject: Re: Masks & Face ID
>
> Posts like the below by Simon are dangerous, and should not be permitted on
> list. That's all I have to say on this topic.
>
> On Fri, Mar 

RE: Apple reportedly cuts iPhone 12 mini production amid tepid demand

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Simon,

You can't compare providers in NZ/Australia or Europe with North America 
although while here in Canada there aren't nearly as many choices as in Europe 
or even the US, we have a fairly regulated industry and 2 or 3 years ago our 
government oversight organisation ruled that providers can't lock their phones 
any more so now any phone you buy in Canada whether it's from Apple direct or a 
carrier has to be unlocked.
As for keeping your customers I never understood what locking a phone had to do 
with it especially if carriers have to unlock their phones for no charge after 
6 months or even after the contract is up. It's the contract which forces you 
to stick with your carrier for the duration of said contract not whether the 
phone is locked so even if I have an unlocked phone, if I received a phone for 
a discounted price in return for committing to a 2-year contract then I'm still 
locked in for 2 years and if I want out I have to pay out the contract.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 10:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple reportedly cuts iPhone 12 mini production amid tepid demand

Hey Richard,

We say a dogs breakfast here in NZ and I think they say the same in Australia 
also.

 You don't pay for 5g,
That's great,
I don't think my city has 5g yet let alone paying to have the service as well.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, 17 March 2021 11:23 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple reportedly cuts iPhone 12 mini production amid tepid demand

A "pig's breakfast", now I like that image for what Kelly's carrier did, grin.
If I jump to a 13, a big if since I just got the SE 2020 last year; I'm glad to 
know that my carrier, Xfinity does not charge for the 5 G service.
I too would buy from Apple direct then get the SIM from Xfinity.


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

> On Mar 16, 2021, at 3:11 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Kelly,
> 
> Just out of curiosity, who is your cell phone carrier because they made a 
> real pig's breakfast of your order and I wouldn't want to experience 
> something similar. I have much better luck buying my new iPhones directly 
> from apple.
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Kelly Pierce
> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 12:48 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple reportedly cuts iPhone 12 mini production amid 
> tepid demand
> 
> For those wondering, I originally planned to upgrade to an iPhone 12 Mini, 
> but my cell phone carrier sent me a regular iPhone 12 instead.
> It took a few weeks to return the phone and receive a full refund. As it 
> turns out, the phone could not be returned without activating the new SIM 
> card sent with the iPhone 12. When the new SIM was activated, the SIM in my 
> iPhone 7 was instantly deactivated. Instead of giving me a new SIM for my 
> iPhone 7, the cell phone store put the iPhone 12 SIM in my iPhone 7. Because 
> the network showed the iPhone 12 SIM in active use, the actual iPhone 12 SIM 
> return could not be processed.
> Eventually, the iPhone 12 SIM was deactivated and I returned to the cell 
> phone store to return my phone and have a new SIM put into my iPhone 7.  
> Apparently, cell phone companies are extremely picky associating the data 
> attached to each SIM to the exact device. Part of the issue is that the 
> iPhone 12 is a 5g device and needs to access certain frequencies not used by 
> the 7. Therefore, it would be a waste of network resources to set aside 
> resources for my 7 on 5g frequencies when they cannot be used.
> 
> After the return was processed at the national service center, I was not 
> credited for my initial down payment so I needed to call customer service for 
> resolution.  Once my account issues were resolved, I discovered all the 256GB 
> iPhone Minis were on a more than two-week backorder.  Now it sounds like the 
> backorder has cleared, but it is about six months before the release of the 
> 2021 iPhone lineup. With a vastly improved 5G chip from QUALCOMM, increased 
> battery size, more storage, and LiDAR technology on all phones, this year s 
> lineup is set to be more impressive than the iPhone 12 series. This is why I 
> will be waiting for the new iPhone mini rather than upgrading now. I very 
> much like the new design that started with the 12 series of distinctive 
> colors and flat edges, making it feel like a premium computational tool. The 
> rounded 

RE: Apple reportedly cuts iPhone 12 mini production amid tepid demand

[Carolyn]

I only have  bought phones from my carriers and have had no problems at all 
with any of them over the years. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kelly Pierce
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 11:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple reportedly cuts iPhone 12 mini production amid tepid demand

Richard,

Sorry to disappoint, but my carrier is Xfinity.  The reason I didn’t buy the 
phone from Apple was that Xfinity was offering a $250 rebate on new iPhones in 
the form of a visa gift card. Also, Xfinity has a yearly upgrade program where 
the customer can get the current iPhone a year after purchase.  These deals 
make Xfinity a compelling choice as a place to buy a new iPhone.  I will say 
the staff was polite and helpful. I received the phone delivered at my home on 
Black Friday so staff and staff support resources were stretched at the time of 
my return. Staff was always friendly, polite, and focused on problem 
resolution. While errors were compounded, the store manager and customer 
service staff were very willing to untangle the problems and make things right. 
 I was only without service on my iPhone 7 for about an hour as the iPhone 12 
SIM was deactivated and I walked to the Xfinity store to drop off the iPhone 12 
and have a new SIM card installed in my iPhone 7.

Well known Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo says Apple will release four iPhones in 
2021 with all being about the same size as the iPhone 12 lineup. This will 
include the iPhone Mini. Apple is rumored to be increasing the storage size for 
the 2021 iPhones. I would be pleased with a bigger battery and 256GB of storage 
rather than adding storage and keeping the battery the same.

Kelly






On 3/16/21, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> This is correct.  When you order an iPhone directly from Apple, you 
> can specify your carrier from one of the Big 4 carriers, AT, 
> Verizon, T-Mobil or Sprint, and your iPhone will be ready to activate and use 
> upon arrival.
>
> - Brad -
>
>
> On Mar 16, 2021, at 20:20, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>
> I never had to get my sim card for my iPhone from Verizon.  When I 
> ordered my iPhone 8, apple asked me who my carrier was, and I just 
> told them Verizon.  I had a lady at a local Verizon store set up my 
> phone for me, but getting it activated or whatever wasn't any big 
> deal.  I didn't really have to do anything.  I could make phone calls 
> pretty much from when I first got my phone.
>
> On 3/16/21, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>> Richard,
>>
>> I wish I could take credit for the pig's breakfast saying but it goes 
>> to Christopher Buckley in the book Little Green Men.
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 5:23 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple reportedly cuts iPhone 12 mini production amid 
>> tepid demand
>>
>> A "pig's breakfast", now I like that image for what Kelly's carrier 
>> did, grin.
>> If I jump to a 13, a big if since I just got the SE 2020 last year; 
>> I'm glad to know that my carrier, Xfinity does not charge for the 5 G 
>> service.
>> I too would buy from Apple direct then get the SIM from Xfinity.
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped 
>> in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of 
>> asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what 
>> my mother told me when I was young."
>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>>
>>> On Mar 16, 2021, at 3:11 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>>
>>> ?Kelly,
>>>
>>> Just out of curiosity, who is your cell phone carrier because they 
>>> made a real pig's breakfast of your order and I wouldn't want to 
>>> experience something similar. I have much better luck buying my new 
>>> iPhones directly from apple.
>>>
>>> Alan Lemly
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Kelly Pierce
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 12:48 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Apple reportedly cuts iPhone 12 mini production amid 
>>> tepid demand
>>>
>>> For those wondering, I originally planned to upgrade to an iPhone 12 
>>> Mini, but my cell phone carrier sent me a regular iPhone 12 instead.
>>> It took a few weeks to return the phone and receive a full refund. 
>>> As it turns out, the phone could not be returned without activating 
>>> the new SIM card sent with the iPhone 12. When the new SIM was 
>>> activated, the SIM in my iPhone 7 was instantly deactivated. Instead 
>>> of giving me a new SIM for my iPhone 7, the cell phone store put the 
>>> iPhone 12 SIM in my iPhone 7.
>>> Because the network showed the iPhone 12 SIM in active use, the 
>>> actual iPhone 12 SIM return 

RE: BlindSquare Crashing?

[Deb Cook Lewis]

Yes it's on to backup to Icloud, and yes my Icloud has enough space.
I've hard reset the phone, updated the phone, done everything I can think of. 
Same problem on my husband's phone.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
Casteen
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 9:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: BlindSquare Crashing?

My only other thought that hasn’t been mentioned- Are you signed into iCloud? 
How much free storage space is available in iCloud? Is Blind Square turned On 
to backup to iCloud? If you go to Settings, iCloud & swipe down to Blind Square 
you can check to confirm that Blind Square is on to backup to iCloud. Any of 
the saved places in the Blind Square app are saved to iCloud for each use of 
the app. I am not having any problems with the app. I have the latest update to 
the app, 5.1 that was released 3 months ago. My only other suggestion is to 
contact the app developer. It seems that you are the only person having the app 
crash immediately upon launching the app.

Donna 
> 
> Well it's no longer working on either my or my husband's phone, but it has 
> nothing to do with OS version because he and I aren't on the same one. So 
> I'll wait then to see if an update comes for this.
> I realize most people think Soundscape does all this and more, but it doesn't 
> interface as well with map programs, and most personally, it doesn't have all 
> my saved places in it. 
> So will wait and see.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joseph 
> Hudson
> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 2:38 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: BlindSquare Crashing?
> 
> Blind Square is still being updated. We have moved the list to a different 
> web service. If you would like to join the list, the subscription address is 
> below. And if you were a part of the beta program, that list is also moved as 
> well. But I would have to verify before I give you that information to 
> subscribe to that list it is it is not a public list.
> blindsquaregps+subscr...@groups.io
>> On Mar 16, 2021, at 3:46 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
>> 
>> I haven’t gotten any traffic on the blindsquare list for maybe years. I’m 
>> not even sure it’s still under development.
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Deb 
>> Cook Lewis
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 3:45 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: BlindSquare Crashing?
>> 
>> I don’t always follow this list as closely as I should, but I don’t recall 
>> reading about this. 
>> I haven’t used blindSquare in about a week but last time I did it was fine. 
>> Today I went to use it, and it opens but immediately closes. I did not have 
>> the latest phone update yet so I did that and there was no update posted for 
>> BS. Even after the update, and another reboot for good measure, it’s still 
>> crashing. Is that current behavior for it or is something wrong on my end?
>> 
>> Thanks!!
>> Deb
>> 
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RE: Bose connect app

[Deb Cook Lewis]

Yeah I just used the bose connect app yesterday to update a supported device 
and I had no difficulty with any aspect of the app or the process.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 7:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose connect app

 

Make sure also you don't have image or screen recognition on or, if they are 
off, try screen recognition because in some cases this can relaly help just as 
in others (Facebook is a good example) it totally messes things up if it is on.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2021 5:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Bose connect app

 

The descriptions in the app store say which devices the app works with, so it 
should be relatively easy to figure out the app you need. 

 

Richard

 

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."

"Why, what did she tell you?"

"I don't know, I didn't listen."

-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

 

On Mar 15, 2021, at 5:17 PM, Simon A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com> > wrote:

 

I’ve got a few bose products and they don’t use the connect app,

 

They use the music app,

 

Have you tried the bose music app to see if that makes a difference?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Tuesday, 16 March 2021 12:55 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Bose connect app

 

It was for sure.  The sound was coming out of it.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com  

 

"When the student is ready, the teacher will appear"
Author Unknown. 

- Original Message - 

From: Brad Snyder   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Monday, March 15, 2021 5:46 PM

Subject: Re: Bose connect app

 

Make sure your Bose device is powered on, and connected to your iPhone or 
whatever device has the Bose connect app on it.

- Brad -


On Mar 15, 2021, at 14:46, Kay Malmquist mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi all,

I just tried getting in to my Bose Connect app to see if there is an update for 
my Bose Sound link mini and I could not get it to work.  What I mean is that I 
skipped the log in page and then a product carousel came up.  I could not read 
anything else on that page except the about link.  It used to be reasonably 
accessible.  Do I have to create an account now?  Any thoughts on this?  Thanks 
much.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com  

 

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RE: Bose connect app

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Make sure also you don't have image or screen recognition on or, if they are 
off, try screen recognition because in some cases this can relaly help just as 
in others (Facebook is a good example) it totally messes things up if it is on.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2021 5:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bose connect app

The descriptions in the app store say which devices the app works with, so it 
should be relatively easy to figure out the app you need.

Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
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On Mar 15, 2021, at 5:17 PM, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

I’ve got a few bose products and they don’t use the connect app,

They use the music app,

Have you tried the bose music app to see if that makes a difference?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Tuesday, 16 March 2021 12:55 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bose connect app

It was for sure.  The sound was coming out of it.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

"When the student is ready, the teacher will appear"
Author Unknown.
- Original Message -
From: Brad Snyder
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2021 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: Bose connect app

Make sure your Bose device is powered on, and connected to your iPhone or 
whatever device has the Bose connect app on it.
- Brad -

On Mar 15, 2021, at 14:46, Kay Malmquist 
mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi all,
I just tried getting in to my Bose Connect app to see if there is an update for 
my Bose Sound link mini and I could not get it to work.  What I mean is that I 
skipped the log in page and then a product carousel came up.  I could not read 
anything else on that page except the about link.  It used to be reasonably 
accessible.  Do I have to create an account now?  Any thoughts on this?  Thanks 
much.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

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RE: Masks & Face ID

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Countries like the United States, Canada, most European countries and many 
others in the world who are very interconnected and which are not islands would 
never have been able to do what Nz or Australia did. Singapore and Taiwan are 
other examples of countries where COVID-19 has been handled very well, but 
again both are islands and it is much easier to close them off. In Europe all 
the borders between EU member states have been gotten rid of a long time ago, 
it is like driving from one State to another in the US or from one province to 
another in Canada, you just drive from Germany into France or italy or from 
France into Spain, no border controls or anything like that. The movement of 
people was restricted, but just as with the US and Canada where the border has 
essentially been closed for a year now, it is not possible to close it 
entirely. There are people who live near borders who work across the border, 
there are integrated supply chains where goods move back and forth from one 
country to another and back daily and you can't shut these things down. Then 
there is the willingness and compliance of the population, in some countries 
people maybe more willing to obey rules set out by the government than in 
others.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2021 1:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Masks & Face ID

I completely agree that New Zealand should be held up as a model of a nation 
that dealt with the pandemic aggressively and therefore avoided a lot of the 
disruptions to the health system causing unnecessary loss of life and also 
allowed their economy to recover more quickly. The mocking way you phrase this, 
by asking questions like “Why do you need to wear face masks?”, especially the 
first time you asked this where you didn’t make the connection with New 
Zealand, comes across as ridiculing efforts in the US and other places where 
wearing masks is a key part of being able to open the economy up safely. It’s 
similar to how those who fight against mask wearing policies call the rest of 
us “sheople” for taking our CDC guidelines seriously and who think a tiny 
inconvenience, like wearing a mask, is well worth saving lives and safely 
reopening our economy. The fact that you also keep asking this same question, 
even after people explain to you why we wear masks in the US, and you obviously 
know that it’s a political issue over here, makes one wonder why you keep 
bringing it up the way you do. Curiosity is a good reason to ask a question, 
and using a question to point out what New Zealand did right, is also OK, but 
asking a question just to be inflammatory and stir up traffic on a mailing list 
is something that should be handled by the list moderator.

--
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Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2021 10:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Masks & Face ID

It’s not rediculis, it’s fact,

We handled things better than a lot of countrys and we celebrate the fact that 
we have little if not any current cases of covid,

It’s not our fault that some countrys leadership ignored the issues of this 
virus,

It’s like the saying,
Kbolting the gate after the horse has bolted,


May be you should point at your countries leadership and ask why they didn’t do 
more to keep you safe from this virus,

Plus we only have 5 million population,
And incoming international traffic through 2 major centres,

It’s easier to lock our country down than it is others,

But it’s  also a benefit that our entire countries behind the keeping the virus 
out.

May be other countrys should take a look at how we and a couple of other 
countrys
Have treated this globle situation,


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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Marco 
Curralejo
Sent: Monday, 15 March 2021 1:06 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Masks & Face ID

I’m sorry and I appreciate this topic is somewhat divisive, but when you get a 
ridiculous post from anywhere regarding this matter, the list owner should 
really pull the reigns on this one and not allow such an idiotic post to even 
get on to the list.

That’s all I have to say with regards to this stupidity.

Marco

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RE: Messages question for when you want to send a message to someone using the iPhone.

[Mich Verrier]

Hi you go to he messages app and find the numbe that messaged you. Once you 
found it dubble tap on where it says butten after the number and then you will 
be able to edit things like name, e mail, phone, etc. hth. From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jenny 
Bomareto
Sent: March 17, 2021 10:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Messages question for when you want to send a message to someone using 
the iPhone.

 

Hello all,

 

So like say yesterday a friend texted me with her phone number so with this 
being said how do I get in there in the Messages program to edit it just like 
you do with the phone when somebody calls you?

 

Now don’t ask me how this happened, last week somehow I got into it in the 
Messages program and was able to create a new contact in the Messages program. 
Hope I didn’t confuse you with my explanations. Thanks in advance for your help.

 

Thanks for your prompt attention!

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Messages question for when you want to send a message to someone using the iPhone.

[Jenny Bomareto]

Hello all,

So like say yesterday a friend texted me with her phone number so with this 
being said how do I get in there in the Messages program to edit it just like 
you do with the phone when somebody calls you?

Now don’t ask me how this happened, last week somehow I got into it in the 
Messages program and was able to create a new contact in the Messages program. 
Hope I didn’t confuse you with my explanations. Thanks in advance for your help.

Thanks for your prompt attention!

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Re: Apple reportedly cuts iPhone 12 mini production amid tepid demand

[Kelly Pierce]

Customer retention is extremely important to telecommunications
services in the United States. The industry has no new customers and
companies are working to keep the ones they have. I obtain both my
cable Internet service and cell phone service from the same company.
I also have a second phone line on my account and an iPad with a
cellular data plan.  I could have bought the phone outright and it
would be unlocked after 90 days. However, I would not be able to
participate in the iPhone upgrade program where I trade in last year’s
iPhone for the current model each year.  If someone has a completely
paid off iPhone, carriers are required to unlock the device in an
agreement they reached with the government.  I bought my 7 from an
Apple store and was accepted on Xfinity after I wiped it and
completely restored the device so it could accept their SIM card. I
was on a GSM network and Xfinity uses Verizon which uses CDMA
technology.

Kelly



On 3/17/21, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> I'd think it would be obvious why a carrier would lock a phone to their
> service, i.e. it keeps you tied into their services and offerings. Last I
> knew in the US, as long as you were a customer in good standing, you could
> have your carrier unlock your phone.
>
> --
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> Chaltain at Outlook
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon
> A Fogarty
> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 12:57 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple reportedly cuts iPhone 12 mini production amid tepid
> demand
>
> I have to say that I find it odd how American mobile providers sell their
> phones to customers locked to the networks, And apple do this as well on
> behalf of the providers.
>
> In nz we only have 3 main providers and they all sell unlocked and unbranded
> phones over the counter, So I could buy from one and go and put another
> providers sim in it 5 minutes after purchase.
>
>  And apple only sell us unlocked phones,
>
>  Why do your providers lock
>  The devices on you?
>
> I do know now that our NZ providers
> Only bring in the lower end phones
> For example none of the three have the 12 pro max in stock, And one doesn't
> have the 12 mini,
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Wednesday, 17 March 2021 11:24 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple reportedly cuts iPhone 12 mini production amid tepid
> demand
>
> I agree.   I bought my iPhone 8 directly from apple, and had a great
> experience.  I'll probably do the same thing again once I save up enough
> money for a new iPhone.  I actually wouldn't be saving up for a new iPhone
> if it weren't for the fact that my bottom speaker on my iPhone 8 just died
> on me which I've never heard of anyone having such a problem.  I am looking
> forward to hearing all about the new iPhone's once they come out.
>
> On 3/16/21, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>> Kelly,
>>
>> Just out of curiosity, who is your cell phone carrier because they
>> made a real pig's breakfast of your order and I wouldn't want to
>> experience something similar. I have much better luck buying my new
>> iPhones directly from apple.
>>
>> Alan Lemly
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of Kelly Pierce
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 12:48 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple reportedly cuts iPhone 12 mini production amid
>> tepid demand
>>
>> For those wondering, I originally planned to upgrade to an iPhone 12
>> Mini, but my cell phone carrier sent me a regular iPhone 12 instead.
>> It took a few weeks to return the phone and receive a full refund. As
>> it turns out, the phone could not be returned without activating the
>> new SIM card sent with the iPhone 12. When the new SIM was activated,
>> the SIM in my iPhone 7 was instantly deactivated. Instead of giving me
>> a new SIM for my iPhone 7, the cell phone store put the iPhone 12 SIM
>> in my iPhone 7. Because the network showed the iPhone 12 SIM in active
>> use, the actual iPhone 12 SIM return could not be processed.
>> Eventually, the iPhone 12 SIM was deactivated and I returned to the
>> cell phone store to return my phone and have a new SIM put into my iPhone
>> 7.
>> Apparently, cell phone companies are extremely picky associating the
>> data attached to each SIM to the exact device. Part of the issue is
>> that the iPhone 12 is a 5g device and needs to access certain
>> frequencies not used by the 7. Therefore, it would be a waste of
>> network resources to set aside resources for my 7 on 5g frequencies when
>> they cannot be used.
>>
>> After the return was processed at the national service center, I was
>> not credited for my initial down payment so I needed to call customer
>> service for resolution.  Once my account issues were resolved, I
>> discovered all the 256GB iPhone Minis were on a more than two-week
>> 

RE: an accessible driving game

[Johna Gravitt]

Also if you search the ap store for blind fold games the app will come up and 
the developer is Marty Schultz.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wendy Lin
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 2:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: an accessible driving game

Speaking of games, does anybody know what happened to Blindfold RS Games? A 
friend of mine wants the iPhone app and I tried searching in the App Store for 
Blindfold RS Games to send the link to him. It showed me a list of other things 
like Game World, Blindfold games but not Blindfold RS Games. If any of you are 
able to find the app in the App Store can you please email me privately with 
the link to the app?
Thanks in advance.

Wendy


On Mar 15, 2021, at 9:06 PM, Mich Verrier 
mailto:mi...@eastlink.ca>> wrote:

It is a lot of fun search for Blind Drive from mich

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 15, 2021, at 9:05 PM, Paul JOrdan 
mailto:pau...@roadrunner.com>> wrote:

Sounds like fun! I want to go to the app store, to search for it by name so, 
what is the name of the game? Thanks.
God bless!
Paula and the pups

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of CJ & 
AA MAY
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2021 4:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: an accessible driving game

Below I am posting part of an e-mail about an accessible driving game. I found 
it a little fiddly initially to set up but it promises to be great fun:

Subject: A driving game!

Below is a link to a fantastic driving game.
this is a fun and great audio game and it is so so immersive, you absolutely 
feel you are in that car!are not left out of the loop, it is a game where the 
storyline is built on the fact that you are driving blind with a blindfold on, 
and is played purely using your ears. It has a good bit of dark humour in it 
and great fun when you crash   , with messages like perhaps you’d have better 
luck on the lawnmower!

https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/blind-drive/id964294239

Alison




From: 
viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: 15 March 2021 03:38
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Masks & Face ID

It’s not rediculis, it’s fact,

We handled things better than a lot of countrys and we celebrate the fact that 
we have little if not any current cases of covid,

It’s not our fault that some countrys leadership ignored the issues of this 
virus,

It’s like the saying,
Kbolting the gate after the horse has bolted,


May be you should point at your countries leadership and ask why they didn’t do 
more to keep you safe from this virus,

Plus we only have 5 million population,
And incoming international traffic through 2 major centres,

It’s easier to lock our country down than it is others,

But it’s  also a benefit that our entire countries behind the keeping the virus 
out.

May be other countrys should take a look at how we and a couple of other 
countrys
Have treated this globle situation,


From: 
viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 On Behalf Of Marco Curralejo
Sent: Monday, 15 March 2021 1:06 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Masks & Face ID

I’m sorry and I appreciate this topic is somewhat divisive, but when you get a 
ridiculous post from anywhere regarding this matter, the list owner should 
really pull the reigns on this one and not allow such an idiotic post to even 
get on to the list.

That’s all I have to say with regards to this stupidity.

Marco

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From: 
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Sent: Saturday, 13 March 2021 4:35 PM
To: Viphone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: Masks & Face ID

Posts like the below by Simon are dangerous, and should not be permitted on 
list. That's all I have to say on this topic.

On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 9:33 PM Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
Why do you need to wear face masks?

I have yet to buy or own a face mask and haven't worn one in the year that 
we've dealt with face masks,

 Don't even know anyone that has worn one,

Guess its one of the great things about living in the nation of New Zealand!



-Original Message-
From: 

RE: an accessible driving game

[Johna Gravitt]

They are called RS Games now.  Developed by kid friendly software.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wendy Lin
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 2:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: an accessible driving game

Speaking of games, does anybody know what happened to Blindfold RS Games? A 
friend of mine wants the iPhone app and I tried searching in the App Store for 
Blindfold RS Games to send the link to him. It showed me a list of other things 
like Game World, Blindfold games but not Blindfold RS Games. If any of you are 
able to find the app in the App Store can you please email me privately with 
the link to the app?
Thanks in advance.

Wendy


On Mar 15, 2021, at 9:06 PM, Mich Verrier 
mailto:mi...@eastlink.ca>> wrote:

It is a lot of fun search for Blind Drive from mich

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 15, 2021, at 9:05 PM, Paul JOrdan 
mailto:pau...@roadrunner.com>> wrote:

Sounds like fun! I want to go to the app store, to search for it by name so, 
what is the name of the game? Thanks.
God bless!
Paula and the pups

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of CJ & 
AA MAY
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2021 4:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: an accessible driving game

Below I am posting part of an e-mail about an accessible driving game. I found 
it a little fiddly initially to set up but it promises to be great fun:

Subject: A driving game!

Below is a link to a fantastic driving game.
this is a fun and great audio game and it is so so immersive, you absolutely 
feel you are in that car!are not left out of the loop, it is a game where the 
storyline is built on the fact that you are driving blind with a blindfold on, 
and is played purely using your ears. It has a good bit of dark humour in it 
and great fun when you crash   , with messages like perhaps you’d have better 
luck on the lawnmower!

https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/blind-drive/id964294239

Alison




From: 
viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: 15 March 2021 03:38
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Masks & Face ID

It’s not rediculis, it’s fact,

We handled things better than a lot of countrys and we celebrate the fact that 
we have little if not any current cases of covid,

It’s not our fault that some countrys leadership ignored the issues of this 
virus,

It’s like the saying,
Kbolting the gate after the horse has bolted,


May be you should point at your countries leadership and ask why they didn’t do 
more to keep you safe from this virus,

Plus we only have 5 million population,
And incoming international traffic through 2 major centres,

It’s easier to lock our country down than it is others,

But it’s  also a benefit that our entire countries behind the keeping the virus 
out.

May be other countrys should take a look at how we and a couple of other 
countrys
Have treated this globle situation,


From: 
viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 On Behalf Of Marco Curralejo
Sent: Monday, 15 March 2021 1:06 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Masks & Face ID

I’m sorry and I appreciate this topic is somewhat divisive, but when you get a 
ridiculous post from anywhere regarding this matter, the list owner should 
really pull the reigns on this one and not allow such an idiotic post to even 
get on to the list.

That’s all I have to say with regards to this stupidity.

Marco

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From: 
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Sent: Saturday, 13 March 2021 4:35 PM
To: Viphone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: Masks & Face ID

Posts like the below by Simon are dangerous, and should not be permitted on 
list. That's all I have to say on this topic.

On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 9:33 PM Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
Why do you need to wear face masks?

I have yet to buy or own a face mask and haven't worn one in the year that 
we've dealt with face masks,

 Don't even know anyone that has worn one,

Guess its one of the great things about living in the nation of New Zealand!



-Original Message-
From: 
viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 On 

RE: Apple reportedly cuts iPhone 12 mini production amid tepid demand

[Christopher Chaltain]

I'd think it would be obvious why a carrier would lock a phone to their 
service, i.e. it keeps you tied into their services and offerings. Last I knew 
in the US, as long as you were a customer in good standing, you could have your 
carrier unlock your phone.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 12:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple reportedly cuts iPhone 12 mini production amid tepid demand

I have to say that I find it odd how American mobile providers sell their 
phones to customers locked to the networks, And apple do this as well on behalf 
of the providers.

In nz we only have 3 main providers and they all sell unlocked and unbranded 
phones over the counter, So I could buy from one and go and put another 
providers sim in it 5 minutes after purchase.

 And apple only sell us unlocked phones,

 Why do your providers lock
 The devices on you?

I do know now that our NZ providers
Only bring in the lower end phones
For example none of the three have the 12 pro max in stock, And one doesn't 
have the 12 mini,


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Wednesday, 17 March 2021 11:24 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple reportedly cuts iPhone 12 mini production amid tepid demand

I agree.   I bought my iPhone 8 directly from apple, and had a great
experience.  I'll probably do the same thing again once I save up enough money 
for a new iPhone.  I actually wouldn't be saving up for a new iPhone if it 
weren't for the fact that my bottom speaker on my iPhone 8 just died on me 
which I've never heard of anyone having such a problem.  I am looking forward 
to hearing all about the new iPhone's once they come out.

On 3/16/21, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> Kelly,
>
> Just out of curiosity, who is your cell phone carrier because they 
> made a real pig's breakfast of your order and I wouldn't want to 
> experience something similar. I have much better luck buying my new 
> iPhones directly from apple.
>
> Alan Lemly
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Kelly Pierce
> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 12:48 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple reportedly cuts iPhone 12 mini production amid 
> tepid demand
>
> For those wondering, I originally planned to upgrade to an iPhone 12 
> Mini, but my cell phone carrier sent me a regular iPhone 12 instead.
> It took a few weeks to return the phone and receive a full refund. As 
> it turns out, the phone could not be returned without activating the 
> new SIM card sent with the iPhone 12. When the new SIM was activated, 
> the SIM in my iPhone 7 was instantly deactivated. Instead of giving me 
> a new SIM for my iPhone 7, the cell phone store put the iPhone 12 SIM 
> in my iPhone 7. Because the network showed the iPhone 12 SIM in active 
> use, the actual iPhone 12 SIM return could not be processed.
> Eventually, the iPhone 12 SIM was deactivated and I returned to the 
> cell phone store to return my phone and have a new SIM put into my iPhone 7.
> Apparently, cell phone companies are extremely picky associating the 
> data attached to each SIM to the exact device. Part of the issue is 
> that the iPhone 12 is a 5g device and needs to access certain 
> frequencies not used by the 7. Therefore, it would be a waste of 
> network resources to set aside resources for my 7 on 5g frequencies when they 
> cannot be used.
>
> After the return was processed at the national service center, I was 
> not credited for my initial down payment so I needed to call customer 
> service for resolution.  Once my account issues were resolved, I 
> discovered all the 256GB iPhone Minis were on a more than two-week 
> backorder.  Now it sounds like the backorder has cleared, but it is 
> about six months before the release of the 2021 iPhone lineup. With a 
> vastly improved 5G chip from QUALCOMM, increased battery size, more 
> storage, and LiDAR technology on all phones, this year s lineup is set 
> to be more impressive than the iPhone 12 series. This is why I will be 
> waiting for the new iPhone mini rather than upgrading now. I very much 
> like the new design that started with the 12 series of distinctive 
> colors and flat edges, making it feel like a premium computational 
> tool. The rounded edge design that began with the iPhone 6 in
> 2014 suggested to me the phone was a 1960s science experiment.
>
> Kelly
>
>
> On 3/15/21, Dan Yates  wrote:
>> Got my iPhone mini in December and have enjoyed it, no problems that 
>> I have seen so far! Definitely like the scaled down size! Had the 
>> iPhone X r before!
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Mar 14, 2021, at 11:06 PM, Simon A Fogarty 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> ?That's what Microsoft did with office 13, They called it version 14 
>>> due to the 

Re: an accessible driving game

[Donna Casteen]

Here is the link to RS games.

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/rs-games/id1118710108

Donna


> 
>  Speaking of games, does anybody know what happened to Blindfold RS Games? A 
> friend of mine wants the iPhone app and I tried searching in the App Store 
> for Blindfold RS Games to send the link to him. It showed me a list of other 
> things like Game World, Blindfold games but not Blindfold RS Games. If any of 
> you are able to find the app in the App Store can you please email me 
> privately with the link to the app?
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Wendy
> 
>> On Mar 15, 2021, at 9:06 PM, Mich Verrier  wrote:
>> 
>> It is a lot of fun search for Blind Drive from mich
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Mar 15, 2021, at 9:05 PM, Paul JOrdan  wrote:
 
>>> 
>>> Sounds like fun! I want to go to the app store, to search for it by name 
>>> so, what is the name of the game? Thanks.
>>> God bless!
>>> Paula and the pups
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CJ & 
>>> AA MAY
>>> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2021 4:00 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: an accessible driving game
>>>  
>>> Below I am posting part of an e-mail about an accessible driving game. I 
>>> found it a little fiddly initially to set up but it promises to be great 
>>> fun:
>>>  
>>> Subject: A driving game!
>>>  
>>> Below is a link to a fantastic driving game. 
>>> this is a fun and great audio game and it is so so immersive, you 
>>> absolutely feel you are in that car!are not left out of the loop, it is a 
>>> game where the storyline is built on the fact that you are driving blind 
>>> with a blindfold on, and is played purely using your ears. It has a good 
>>> bit of dark humour in it and great fun when you crash   , with messages 
>>> like perhaps you’d have better luck on the lawnmower!
>>>  
>>> https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/blind-drive/id964294239
>>>  
>>> Alison
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Simon 
>>> A Fogarty
>>> Sent: 15 March 2021 03:38
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Masks & Face ID
>>>  
>>> It’s not rediculis, it’s fact,
>>>  
>>> We handled things better than a lot of countrys and we celebrate the fact 
>>> that we have little if not any current cases of covid,
>>>  
>>> It’s not our fault that some countrys leadership ignored the issues of this 
>>> virus,
>>>  
>>> It’s like the saying,
>>> Kbolting the gate after the horse has bolted,
>>>  
>>>  
>>> May be you should point at your countries leadership and ask why they 
>>> didn’t do more to keep you safe from this virus,
>>>  
>>> Plus we only have 5 million population,
>>> And incoming international traffic through 2 major centres,
>>>  
>>> It’s easier to lock our country down than it is others,
>>>  
>>> But it’s  also a benefit that our entire countries behind the keeping the 
>>> virus out.
>>>  
>>> May be other countrys should take a look at how we and a couple of other 
>>> countrys 
>>> Have treated this globle situation,
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Marco 
>>> Curralejo
>>> Sent: Monday, 15 March 2021 1:06 pm
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Masks & Face ID
>>>  
>>> I’m sorry and I appreciate this topic is somewhat divisive, but when you 
>>> get a ridiculous post from anywhere regarding this matter, the list owner 
>>> should really pull the reigns on this one and not allow such an idiotic 
>>> post to even get on to the list.
>>>  
>>> That’s all I have to say with regards to this stupidity.
>>>  
>>> Marco
>>>  
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>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Nimer 
>>> Jaber
>>> Sent: Saturday, 13 March 2021 4:35 PM
>>> To: Viphone 
>>> Subject: Re: Masks & Face ID
>>>  
>>> Posts like the below by Simon are dangerous, and should not be permitted on 
>>> list. That's all I have to say on this topic.
>>>  
>>> On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 9:33 PM Simon A Fogarty  
>>> wrote:
>>> Why do you need to wear face masks?
>>> 
>>> I have yet to buy or own a face mask and haven't worn one in the year that 
>>> we've dealt with face masks,
>>> 
>>>  Don't even know anyone that has worn one,
>>> 
>>> Guess its one of the great things about living in the nation of New Zealand!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Kelly 
>>> Pierce
>>> Sent: Saturday, 13 March 2021 4:38 pm
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Masks & Face ID
>>> 
>>> A doctor 

Re: BlindSquare Crashing?

[Wendy Lin]

I don’t use blind square but I use another GPS app called we walk

> On Mar 16, 2021, at 4:50 PM, Deb Cook Lewis  wrote:
> 
> The most recent update was two months ago according to the Appstore. So if 
> not, this means it just stopped. 
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 1:46 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: BlindSquare Crashing?
>  
> I haven’t gotten any traffic on the blindsquare list for maybe years. I’m not 
> even sure it’s still under development.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of Deb Cook Lewis
> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 3:45 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: BlindSquare Crashing?
>  
> I don’t always follow this list as closely as I should, but I don’t recall 
> reading about this. 
> I haven’t used blindSquare in about a week but last time I did it was fine. 
> Today I went to use it, and it opens but immediately closes. I did not have 
> the latest phone update yet so I did that and there was no update posted for 
> BS. Even after the update, and another reboot for good measure, it’s still 
> crashing. Is that current behavior for it or is something wrong on my end?
>  
> Thanks!!
> Deb
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Re: Turning /camera on While in Zoom?

[Wendy Lin]

I’ve been considering installing Zoom on my Mac but I’m getting a message 
saying that the app requires a lot of my memory on my computer, and it wouldn’t 
proceed to download for some strange reason.

> On Mar 14, 2021, at 6:01 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> If not in a meeting, you can go into your settings and set it to start a 
> meeting with the camera on, then you won’t have to worry about it.
> But, yes, on an iPad, the button is likely across the top.
> Many apps that have the button along the bottom on an iPhone, have them 
> across the top on an iPad.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>  
>  
> My web site, www.turner42.com 
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Shirley Baker
> Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2021 2:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Turning /camera on While in Zoom?
>  
> And do you need to be in a meeting to turn the camera on? I am using an iPad 
> Pro and I just haven’t been able to find it yet.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Mar 14, 2021, at 3:06 PM, Brad Snyder  > wrote:
> 
> On the iPhone Zoom app, the button reads, “Start My Video.”
> It is located along the bottom of the screen, second button from the left 
> edge.
> On the iPad, I believe this button is located near the top of the screen, 
> next to the Mute button.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
>  
> On Mar 14, 2021, at 14:58, Richard Turner  > wrote:
>  
> If you are on a windows computer, alt+v toggles the camera.
> On a Mac, I believe it is command+v.
> On the iPhone/iPad, if you start at the very bottom right of the screen on 
> the more button and flick left with one finger you will get a button after a 
> few flicks that says something like turn on my video... Double tap, and you 
> are on camera.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
> 
> 
> My web site, www.turner42.com 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of Shirley Baker
> Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2021 12:53 PM
> To: Vip Home mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
> Subject: Turning /camera on While in Zoom?
> 
> If you're in a zoom meeting with all sighted people except two people, how do 
> you turn the camera on so they can see you?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Apologies [was "RE: Masks & Face ID"]

[Wendy Lin]

What? Lol!

> On Mar 15, 2021, at 5:20 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Byte me,
>  
> And no I’m going to have you beaten with a beating stick.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Tuesday, 16 March 2021 3:40 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Apologies [was "RE: Masks & Face ID"]
>  
> My apologies to Simon and the list. I thought this was just going to Marco. I 
> should have checked more carefully before hitting the send button. I’ll 
> accept whatever punishment Mark things is appropriate, and I hope Simon 
> accepts my apology.
>  
> --
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>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2021 9:38 AM
> To: Marco Curralejo  >;viphone@googlegroups.com 
> 
> Subject: RE: Masks & Face ID
>  
> I agree! I actually don’t think Simon is trying to spread harmful 
> information. Based on his other posts, I think he’s just kind of arrogant and 
> doesn’t think much about what he posts.
>  
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> Chaltain at Outlook
>  
> From: Marco Curralejo mailto:marco.c...@gmail.com>> 
> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2021 6:44 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; Christopher 
> Chaltain mailto:chalt...@outlook.com>>
> Subject: RE: Masks & Face ID
>  
> Couldn't agree more karma which is why I stated that these sorts of messages 
> are ridiculous in the context given. Also completely agree that countries 
> like Australia and New Zealand should be applauded for their efforts. 
> Unfortunately, this person from New Zealand should not be applauded for his 
> effort.
>  
> On 15 March 2021 19:38:32 Christopher Chaltain  > wrote:
> 
> I completely agree that New Zealand should be held up as a model of a nation 
> that dealt with the pandemic aggressively and therefore avoided a lot of the 
> disruptions to the health system causing unnecessary loss of life and also 
> allowed their economy to recover more quickly. The mocking way you phrase 
> this, by asking questions like “Why do you need to wear face masks?”, 
> especially the first time you asked this where you didn’t make the connection 
> with New Zealand, comes across as ridiculing efforts in the US and other 
> places where wearing masks is a key part of being able to open the economy up 
> safely. It’s similar to how those who fight against mask wearing policies 
> call the rest of us “sheople” for taking our CDC guidelines seriously and who 
> think a tiny inconvenience, like wearing a mask, is well worth saving lives 
> and safely reopening our economy. The fact that you also keep asking this 
> same question, even after people explain to you why we wear masks in the US, 
> and you obviously know that it’s a political issue over here, makes one 
> wonder why you keep bringing it up the way you do. Curiosity is a good reason 
> to ask a question, and using a question to point out what New Zealand did 
> right, is also OK, but asking a question just to be inflammatory and stir up 
> traffic on a mailing list is something that should be handled by the list 
> moderator.
>  
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>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2021 10:38 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Masks & Face ID
>  
> It’s not rediculis, it’s fact,
>  
> We handled things better than a lot of countrys and we celebrate the fact 
> that we have little if not any current cases of covid,
>  
> It’s not our fault that some countrys leadership ignored the issues of this 
> virus,
>  
> It’s like the saying,
> Kbolting the gate after the horse has bolted,
>  
>  
> May be you should point at your countries leadership and ask why they didn’t 
> do more to keep you safe from this virus,
>  
> Plus we only have 5 million population,
> And incoming international traffic through 2 major centres,
>  
> It’s easier to lock our country down than it is others,
>  
> But it’s  also a benefit that our entire countries behind the keeping the 
> virus out.
>  
> May be other countrys should take a look at how we and a couple of other 
> countrys
> Have treated this globle situation,
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of Marco Curralejo
> Sent: Monday, 15 March 2021 1:06 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Masks & Face ID
>  
> I’m sorry and I appreciate this topic is somewhat divisive, but when you get 
> a ridiculous post from anywhere regarding this matter, the list owner should 
> really pull the reigns on this one and 

Re: test

[Wendy Lin]

Your test is clear.

> On Mar 15, 2021, at 8:52 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Kay,
>  
> Yeah I’m seeing it there.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
> Malmquist
> Sent: Tuesday, 16 March 2021 1:47 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: test
>  
> Could someone tell me if this came through to the list?
> 
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com 
>  
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Re: an accessible driving game

[Wendy Lin]

Speaking of games, does anybody know what happened to Blindfold RS Games? A 
friend of mine wants the iPhone app and I tried searching in the App Store for 
Blindfold RS Games to send the link to him. It showed me a list of other things 
like Game World, Blindfold games but not Blindfold RS Games. If any of you are 
able to find the app in the App Store can you please email me privately with 
the link to the app?
Thanks in advance.

Wendy

> On Mar 15, 2021, at 9:06 PM, Mich Verrier  wrote:
> 
> It is a lot of fun search for Blind Drive from mich
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 15, 2021, at 9:05 PM, Paul JOrdan  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Sounds like fun! I want to go to the app store, to search for it by name so, 
>> what is the name of the game? Thanks.
>> God bless!
>> Paula and the pups
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CJ & 
>> AA MAY
>> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2021 4:00 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: an accessible driving game
>>  
>> Below I am posting part of an e-mail about an accessible driving game. I 
>> found it a little fiddly initially to set up but it promises to be great fun:
>>  
>> Subject: A driving game!
>>  
>> Below is a link to a fantastic driving game. 
>> this is a fun and great audio game and it is so so immersive, you absolutely 
>> feel you are in that car!are not left out of the loop, it is a game where 
>> the storyline is built on the fact that you are driving blind with a 
>> blindfold on, and is played purely using your ears. It has a good bit of 
>> dark humour in it and great fun when you crash   , with messages like 
>> perhaps you’d have better luck on the lawnmower!
>>  
>> https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/blind-drive/id964294239 
>> 
>>  
>> Alison
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> > > On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
>> Sent: 15 March 2021 03:38
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: RE: Masks & Face ID
>>  
>> It’s not rediculis, it’s fact,
>>  
>> We handled things better than a lot of countrys and we celebrate the fact 
>> that we have little if not any current cases of covid,
>>  
>> It’s not our fault that some countrys leadership ignored the issues of this 
>> virus,
>>  
>> It’s like the saying,
>> Kbolting the gate after the horse has bolted,
>>  
>>  
>> May be you should point at your countries leadership and ask why they didn’t 
>> do more to keep you safe from this virus,
>>  
>> Plus we only have 5 million population,
>> And incoming international traffic through 2 major centres,
>>  
>> It’s easier to lock our country down than it is others,
>>  
>> But it’s  also a benefit that our entire countries behind the keeping the 
>> virus out.
>>  
>> May be other countrys should take a look at how we and a couple of other 
>> countrys 
>> Have treated this globle situation,
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> > > On Behalf Of Marco Curralejo
>> Sent: Monday, 15 March 2021 1:06 pm
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: RE: Masks & Face ID
>>  
>> I’m sorry and I appreciate this topic is somewhat divisive, but when you get 
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>> really pull the reigns on this one and not allow such an idiotic post to 
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>> That’s all I have to say with regards to this stupidity.
>>  
>> Marco
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>> > > On Behalf Of Nimer Jaber
>> Sent: Saturday, 13 March 2021 4:35 PM
>> To: Viphone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
>> Subject: Re: Masks & Face ID
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>> Posts like the below by Simon are dangerous, and should not be permitted on 
>> list. That's all I have to say on this topic.
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>> On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 9:33 PM Simon A Fogarty > > wrote:
>> Why do you need to wear face masks?
>> 
>> I have yet to buy or own a face mask and haven't worn one in the year that 
>> we've dealt with face masks,
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>>  Don't even know anyone that has worn one,
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>> Guess its one of the great things about living in the nation of New Zealand!
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