Re: Moderator note - Was Re: getting back to main screen in voicebook?
Sorry, I tried not to jump to any conclusions, and I even tried to indicate that in my message. I couldn't figure how to take that message in any other way though, but as a knock on blind people. I realize that you have to consider a person's native language and state of mind when reading their messages, but I also think someone posting a message bears some responsibility in how they come across. I also don't think that sarcasm excuses a demeaning statement. I was obviously the only person who interpretted this message in a negative connotation though, so I'll chalk it up to my own over sensitivity, and ask the moderators and the members of the list to forgive me and the poor way I composed my message. On 5/28/12, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: Hi, we also need to remember that since this is email we are reading, we really don't know what the person is truly feeling when he/she writes an email. We don't know if the person was feeling sarcastic, depressed, cheery, or was just stating his/her opinion. So, let's not be so quick to jump to conclusions about what someone's intent was in a message. Cheers. Raul A. Gallegos - VIPhone Moderator I want my children to have all the luxuries I never had then I want to move in with them. - Phyllis Diller Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 5/27/2012 10:40 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: I'm not sure what you're getting at below. * Are you saying it's difficult to create an app that's easy to use for the blind? * Are you saying that the blind users don't appreciate this app or other apps designed to be accessible? * Are you saying that blind users aren't smart enough to figure out how to use this app or other apps made especially for the blind? or did I just misread your message altogether? Either way, I don't see any of this. I've only see people trying to figure out how to use this new app. Some confusion was caused by other apps with similar names, but that's obviously not the fault of this app. IMHO, if there's a problem with the usability of this app it's that there wasn't more documentation or a tutorial or a podcast on how to use it, but the author said he wanted to get it out there to see if it would be useful or not before putting more development into it. I think we just need to use it, understand how early it is in the development process and give the author feedback on how it could be improved and be easier to use, which I think is exactly what's happening On 27/05/12 12:52, Eric SS wrote: I would recommend closing the app from the application switcher and restarting it. As simple as this application is and as difficult as so many seem to find it, I am amazed that anyone would ever try creating anything for the blind community. Telephone: (614)633-0376 Skype: sseric57 -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: typing on the phone
Hi everybody, we are the Accessibility Team of EveryWare Technologies, the developers of TypeInBraille app. We'd like to know what do you think about our app and if you consider it as a good solution to type on your mobile device. For those who want to get more information about TypeInBraille: http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille Thank you On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jeremiah Rogers jeremiahzrog...@gmail.com wrote: Hi CJ. The initial appeal to me of touch typing was just as you described - I liked not having to hunt for te next letter. I did well at immediately finding the next letter I wanted. Unfortunately though, I seem to be missing the letter on the first try more often now than I used to. I'm also intrigued by the thumb thing. Will try that when I've more time. Jeremiah On 5/21/12, Rob Harris bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: Depends if the tapper is likely to hit the edge of the screen, then we have to swap or change angle dramatically, and have to do a certain amount even when touch typing as control type keys need it regardless. - shift, return, More numbers/letter/other, etc. But a recent theme about double thumb typing offered an interesting deviation in which case covering half the kb each, the appropriate thumb hunts and the other taps, and vicerVersa. - Original Message - From: Jeremiah Rogers jeremiahzrog...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:35 PM Subject: Re: typing on the phone One question for you split tappers, any tips for when to switch the duties of fingers? Do you have certain letter combos, certain words, etc where you just know you're tapper will become the hunter? Just having sent a couple texts with the split tap method, that's the only thing that seemed odd. I've learned much from this typing discussion. Initially, I loved the touch typing method, but it seems to me that iOS has gotten less responsive, even across hardware, than I remember it being when I got my first iOS device most of two years ago. It may just be my expectations, but I remember touch typing faster, and more accurately, when I got that device than I can now. Prompted by this thread, I'm trying out the split tap method and am quite intrigued. Jeremiah Z. Rogers Mobile: 704-996-5334 Email: jeremiahzrog...@gmail.com On 5/19/12, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote: I've found that typingwith both index fingers in portrait work using touch typing works reallly well. I'm not a whiz at it, but it's working. Jane On May 19, 2012, at 5:29 AM, Rob Harris wrote: Ok, just trying this thumbs thing, so got the phone sideways, so hand over the one main speaker outlet; so couldn't hear it. Moved hands a bit, now doesn't hold very comfortably; but got a text donein the end. Once you learn a thing one way, there needs to be a darned good motivation to undo it and learn it another. RobH. - Original Message - From: Holly thistleshamrock2...@gmail.com To: VIPhone viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 2:09 AM Subject: Re: typing on the phone I usually type with my thumbs, but sometimes with my right index finger. I became accustomed to typing with my thumbs while using a querty keyboard on an android. I have used a home row on a computer since age nine, so learning to locate keys with my thumbs was not too hard. I am not very fast, but it works. I have a bluetooth keyboard for longer typing needs. Holly and Ajax -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone
Re: CD barcode scanning app
Hi Phil, with AudioLabels you can scan every barcode and receive information about it. It also works with CDs and it also give you the possibility to ask for personal QR codes via email in which you can add your own text or audio description. For more information about it: http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/audiolabels We appreciate any comment or suggestion. Thank you On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.comwrote: ** Have you tried the bar code function in oMoby? I have not had time to try that. Perhaps Red Laser as well. I suspect Digit-Eyes would work, but it isn't free. I'm assuming this is on an iPhone. Richard -- *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Phil Halton *Sent:* Wednesday, May 23, 2012 7:04 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* CD barcode scanning app Is there a app that'll scan the barcodes on CD's and tell me what the CD artist/title is? I used Noogle Noggles for this purpose before that app went away and it worked great. Hoping there is something that'll perform as well for scanning CD's -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: typing on the phone
I'd like to hear from people who are using this app. I was intrigued when I read the description, but after listening to the demo,my initial impression is that it's a rather labor-intensive way of inputting text. Anyone have any real-world feedback to share? Kimber On 5/29/12, EWTEch Accessibility accessibil...@ew-tech.it wrote: Hi everybody, we are the Accessibility Team of EveryWare Technologies, the developers of TypeInBraille app. We'd like to know what do you think about our app and if you consider it as a good solution to type on your mobile device. For those who want to get more information about TypeInBraille: http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille Thank you On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jeremiah Rogers jeremiahzrog...@gmail.com wrote: Hi CJ. The initial appeal to me of touch typing was just as you described - I liked not having to hunt for te next letter. I did well at immediately finding the next letter I wanted. Unfortunately though, I seem to be missing the letter on the first try more often now than I used to. I'm also intrigued by the thumb thing. Will try that when I've more time. Jeremiah On 5/21/12, Rob Harris bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: Depends if the tapper is likely to hit the edge of the screen, then we have to swap or change angle dramatically, and have to do a certain amount even when touch typing as control type keys need it regardless. - shift, return, More numbers/letter/other, etc. But a recent theme about double thumb typing offered an interesting deviation in which case covering half the kb each, the appropriate thumb hunts and the other taps, and vicerVersa. - Original Message - From: Jeremiah Rogers jeremiahzrog...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:35 PM Subject: Re: typing on the phone One question for you split tappers, any tips for when to switch the duties of fingers? Do you have certain letter combos, certain words, etc where you just know you're tapper will become the hunter? Just having sent a couple texts with the split tap method, that's the only thing that seemed odd. I've learned much from this typing discussion. Initially, I loved the touch typing method, but it seems to me that iOS has gotten less responsive, even across hardware, than I remember it being when I got my first iOS device most of two years ago. It may just be my expectations, but I remember touch typing faster, and more accurately, when I got that device than I can now. Prompted by this thread, I'm trying out the split tap method and am quite intrigued. Jeremiah Z. Rogers Mobile: 704-996-5334 Email: jeremiahzrog...@gmail.com On 5/19/12, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote: I've found that typingwith both index fingers in portrait work using touch typing works reallly well. I'm not a whiz at it, but it's working. Jane On May 19, 2012, at 5:29 AM, Rob Harris wrote: Ok, just trying this thumbs thing, so got the phone sideways, so hand over the one main speaker outlet; so couldn't hear it. Moved hands a bit, now doesn't hold very comfortably; but got a text donein the end. Once you learn a thing one way, there needs to be a darned good motivation to undo it and learn it another. RobH. - Original Message - From: Holly thistleshamrock2...@gmail.com To: VIPhone viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 2:09 AM Subject: Re: typing on the phone I usually type with my thumbs, but sometimes with my right index finger. I became accustomed to typing with my thumbs while using a querty keyboard on an android. I have used a home row on a computer since age nine, so learning to locate keys with my thumbs was not too hard. I am not very fast, but it works. I have a bluetooth keyboard for longer typing needs. Holly and Ajax -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit
Re: typing on the phone
Yes, you get good at it and with practice, it is quicker and more reliable than groping all over the virtual keyboard on the screen. Good in noisy environments when you can't hear the feedback of what you're touching on screen. It's not quite a real keyboard, but it offers that kind of assurance of you know what you're doing without having to be prompted or confirmed every step of the way. That's the real benefit. I think the 3 modes you switch on the rotor would be a great advance on all edit fields to be honest, but that's asking too much. But, and I do do this, do the writing in TIB, copy to clipboard as a basic option, then go to the real app and paste straight into the field. It has basics already like sms, email, twitter and facebook; and just use the clipboard feature after that. I started off a bit cynical, but some of the greatest advocates started there too. RobH. - Original Message - From: Kimber Gardner kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 9:57 AM Subject: Re: typing on the phone I'd like to hear from people who are using this app. I was intrigued when I read the description, but after listening to the demo,my initial impression is that it's a rather labor-intensive way of inputting text. Anyone have any real-world feedback to share? Kimber On 5/29/12, EWTEch Accessibility accessibil...@ew-tech.it wrote: Hi everybody, we are the Accessibility Team of EveryWare Technologies, the developers of TypeInBraille app. We'd like to know what do you think about our app and if you consider it as a good solution to type on your mobile device. For those who want to get more information about TypeInBraille: http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille Thank you On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jeremiah Rogers jeremiahzrog...@gmail.com wrote: Hi CJ. The initial appeal to me of touch typing was just as you described - I liked not having to hunt for te next letter. I did well at immediately finding the next letter I wanted. Unfortunately though, I seem to be missing the letter on the first try more often now than I used to. I'm also intrigued by the thumb thing. Will try that when I've more time. Jeremiah On 5/21/12, Rob Harris bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: Depends if the tapper is likely to hit the edge of the screen, then we have to swap or change angle dramatically, and have to do a certain amount even when touch typing as control type keys need it regardless. - shift, return, More numbers/letter/other, etc. But a recent theme about double thumb typing offered an interesting deviation in which case covering half the kb each, the appropriate thumb hunts and the other taps, and vicerVersa. - Original Message - From: Jeremiah Rogers jeremiahzrog...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:35 PM Subject: Re: typing on the phone One question for you split tappers, any tips for when to switch the duties of fingers? Do you have certain letter combos, certain words, etc where you just know you're tapper will become the hunter? Just having sent a couple texts with the split tap method, that's the only thing that seemed odd. I've learned much from this typing discussion. Initially, I loved the touch typing method, but it seems to me that iOS has gotten less responsive, even across hardware, than I remember it being when I got my first iOS device most of two years ago. It may just be my expectations, but I remember touch typing faster, and more accurately, when I got that device than I can now. Prompted by this thread, I'm trying out the split tap method and am quite intrigued. Jeremiah Z. Rogers Mobile: 704-996-5334 Email: jeremiahzrog...@gmail.com On 5/19/12, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote: I've found that typingwith both index fingers in portrait work using touch typing works reallly well. I'm not a whiz at it, but it's working. Jane On May 19, 2012, at 5:29 AM, Rob Harris wrote: Ok, just trying this thumbs thing, so got the phone sideways, so hand over the one main speaker outlet; so couldn't hear it. Moved hands a bit, now doesn't hold very comfortably; but got a text donein the end. Once you learn a thing one way, there needs to be a darned good motivation to undo it and learn it another. RobH. - Original Message - From: Holly thistleshamrock2...@gmail.com To: VIPhone viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 2:09 AM Subject: Re: typing on the phone I usually type with my thumbs, but sometimes with my right index finger. I became accustomed to typing with my thumbs while using a querty keyboard on an android. I have used a home row on a computer since age nine, so learning to locate keys with my thumbs was not too hard. I am not very fast, but it works. I have a bluetooth keyboard for
Re: typing on the phone
Hi guys, thank you for your appreciation. We are working to fix the rotor issue, maybe using different buttons as Rob said. Kimber, i don't think that TypeInBraille could be considered as a labor-intensive way of inputting text. After few days of practice you can easily type much faster than using the traditional keyboard or any other app. On our website there is an audio/video that shows how fast, a blind user, can type the same text using both the traditional keyboard and the TypeInBraille keyboard. The blind user was asked to type: Ok, see you at 5 -- 18 sec with TypeInBraille (after 3 weeks of training), 42 sec with the traditional keyboard (after 3 months of training). It's just a matter of practice. On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Rob Harris bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: Love it! This is an old 3GS, but it does what is necessary. I'd like all editors to have that 3 mode system and they'd all be good, but they haven't. suggest buttons for changing mode as my device gets confused between which rotor it is responding to. Ok, you could put it in the menu evenand I'm just off to check that you didn't already and I missed it! Ok, it's not in there, and I also note that the bak button, though in the normal place at the top, doesn't respond to the scrub gesture for going back directly and swiping back to the top... gets irritating, but just remembered the 4 finger thing to go directly to the top or bottom, so we can skip that issue. But the scrub would help. So it's only the rotor that bugs me or my device a bit, and I'm sure that can be fixed with specific gestures or arranging an alternative means of changing mode. But still love it for the efficiency, and it is you know; and gets things done with much less groping about. Bet you could use some of the stray unused hcaracters too even. Many thanks, and it is appreciated. RobH. - Original Message - From: EWTEch Accessibility accessibil...@ew-tech.it To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 9:37 AM Subject: Re: typing on the phone Hi everybody, we are the Accessibility Team of EveryWare Technologies, the developers of TypeInBraille app. We'd like to know what do you think about our app and if you consider it as a good solution to type on your mobile device. For those who want to get more information about TypeInBraille: http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille Thank you On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jeremiah Rogers jeremiahzrog...@gmail.com wrote: Hi CJ. The initial appeal to me of touch typing was just as you described - I liked not having to hunt for te next letter. I did well at immediately finding the next letter I wanted. Unfortunately though, I seem to be missing the letter on the first try more often now than I used to. I'm also intrigued by the thumb thing. Will try that when I've more time. Jeremiah On 5/21/12, Rob Harris bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: Depends if the tapper is likely to hit the edge of the screen, then we have to swap or change angle dramatically, and have to do a certain amount even when touch typing as control type keys need it regardless. - shift, return, More numbers/letter/other, etc. But a recent theme about double thumb typing offered an interesting deviation in which case covering half the kb each, the appropriate thumb hunts and the other taps, and vicerVersa. - Original Message - From: Jeremiah Rogers jeremiahzrog...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:35 PM Subject: Re: typing on the phone One question for you split tappers, any tips for when to switch the duties of fingers? Do you have certain letter combos, certain words, etc where you just know you're tapper will become the hunter? Just having sent a couple texts with the split tap method, that's the only thing that seemed odd. I've learned much from this typing discussion. Initially, I loved the touch typing method, but it seems to me that iOS has gotten less responsive, even across hardware, than I remember it being when I got my first iOS device most of two years ago. It may just be my expectations, but I remember touch typing faster, and more accurately, when I got that device than I can now. Prompted by this thread, I'm trying out the split tap method and am quite intrigued. Jeremiah Z. Rogers Mobile: 704-996-5334 Email: jeremiahzrog...@gmail.com On 5/19/12, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote: I've found that typingwith both index fingers in portrait work using touch typing works reallly well. I'm not a whiz at it, but it's working. Jane On May 19, 2012, at 5:29 AM, Rob Harris wrote: Ok, just trying this thumbs thing, so got the phone sideways, so hand over the one main speaker outlet; so couldn't hear it. Moved hands a bit,
Re: YouVersion Question
Hi Sarah, Sorry, haven't time to give detailed instructions now ... but I think you'll catch on if I start you off: 1)Double Tap each verse you want to include; 2Locate a rather small button on the bottom right edge which says Action. From there you follow your nose and it's necessary to swipe all the way to the left to get a feel of what you can do there ... Any more questions when you've played a little, do come back and I'll do my best to give some more detailed explanations if I can. -- Carol P - Just off out now and busy day ahead! Original Message From: Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 5:00 PM Subject: YouVersion Question Hi: How do you create notes and Bookmarks with Youversion? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: typing on the phone
Thank you for the information. We've just join the list. On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Rob Harris bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: You might want to join this list too - : Accessible iOS i...@groups.a11y.us - as thisis where I first heard of it and I think the skill level and tech savvi is higher; should make for useful feedback. Ok, a good number of those are here too; but not all, so worth a try. Thanks, RobH. - Original Message - From: EWTEch Accessibility accessibil...@ew-tech.it To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 10:28 AM Subject: Re: typing on the phone Thank you Rob, we appreciate your good feedback and we hope that also someone else could feel comfortable using TypeInBraille. On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Rob Harris bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: Training is almost an excessive word given the simplicity of the app, but practice is certainly the key. It comes quite naturally to a previous or current braillist. It's decades since I used a Perkins, but it came back and had it in a couple of days, and wouldn't want to go back. RobH, on a xp pc at the moment. - Original Message - From: EWTEch Accessibility accessibil...@ew-tech.it To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 10:12 AM Subject: Re: typing on the phone Hi guys, thank you for your appreciation. We are working to fix the rotor issue, maybe using different buttons as Rob said. Kimber, i don't think that TypeInBraille could be considered as a labor-intensive way of inputting text. After few days of practice you can easily type much faster than using the traditional keyboard or any other app. On our website there is an audio/video that shows how fast, a blind user, can type the same text using both the traditional keyboard and the TypeInBraille keyboard. The blind user was asked to type: Ok, see you at 5 -- 18 sec with TypeInBraille (after 3 weeks of training), 42 sec with the traditional keyboard (after 3 months of training). It's just a matter of practice. On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Rob Harris bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: Love it! This is an old 3GS, but it does what is necessary. I'd like all editors to have that 3 mode system and they'd all be good, but they haven't. suggest buttons for changing mode as my device gets confused between which rotor it is responding to. Ok, you could put it in the menu evenand I'm just off to check that you didn't already and I missed it! Ok, it's not in there, and I also note that the bak button, though in the normal place at the top, doesn't respond to the scrub gesture for going back directly and swiping back to the top... gets irritating, but just remembered the 4 finger thing to go directly to the top or bottom, so we can skip that issue. But the scrub would help. So it's only the rotor that bugs me or my device a bit, and I'm sure that can be fixed with specific gestures or arranging an alternative means of changing mode. But still love it for the efficiency, and it is you know; and gets things done with much less groping about. Bet you could use some of the stray unused hcaracters too even. Many thanks, and it is appreciated. RobH. - Original Message - From: EWTEch Accessibility accessibil...@ew-tech.it To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 9:37 AM Subject: Re: typing on the phone Hi everybody, we are the Accessibility Team of EveryWare Technologies, the developers of TypeInBraille app. We'd like to know what do you think about our app and if you consider it as a good solution to type on your mobile device. For those who want to get more information about TypeInBraille: http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille Thank you On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jeremiah Rogers jeremiahzrog...@gmail.com wrote: Hi CJ. The initial appeal to me of touch typing was just as you described - I liked not having to hunt for te next letter. I did well at immediately finding the next letter I wanted. Unfortunately though, I seem to be missing the letter on the first try more often now than I used to. I'm also intrigued by the thumb thing. Will try that when I've more time. Jeremiah On 5/21/12, Rob Harris bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: Depends if the tapper is likely to hit the edge of the screen, then we have to swap or change angle dramatically, and have to do a certain amount even when touch typing as control type keys need it regardless. - shift, return, More numbers/letter/other, etc. But a recent theme about double thumb typing offered an interesting deviation in which case covering half the kb each, the appropriate thumb
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Hi, I think the idea sounds good. I haven't purchased this app as yet because I have an iPhone 4S and usually do my typing via dictation, but I can see where this may come in handy in areas where you don't want to speak what you type. I'll check out the site and see what else there is to learn about the app. Thanks for your efforts. -- Raul A. Gallegos Men who have pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought jewelry. - Rita Rudner Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 5/29/2012 4:37 AM, EWTEch Accessibility wrote: Hi everybody, we are the Accessibility Team of EveryWare Technologies, the developers of TypeInBraille app. We'd like to know what do you think about our app and if you consider it as a good solution to type on your mobile device. For those who want to get more information about TypeInBraille: http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille Thank you On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jeremiah Rogers jeremiahzrog...@gmail.com mailto:jeremiahzrog...@gmail.com wrote: Hi CJ. The initial appeal to me of touch typing was just as you described - I liked not having to hunt for te next letter. I did well at immediately finding the next letter I wanted. Unfortunately though, I seem to be missing the letter on the first try more often now than I used to. I'm also intrigued by the thumb thing. Will try that when I've more time. Jeremiah On 5/21/12, Rob Harris bobs...@googlemail.com mailto:bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: Depends if the tapper is likely to hit the edge of the screen, then we have to swap or change angle dramatically, and have to do a certain amount even when touch typing as control type keys need it regardless. - shift, return, More numbers/letter/other, etc. But a recent theme about double thumb typing offered an interesting deviation in which case covering half the kb each, the appropriate thumb hunts and the other taps, and vicerVersa. - Original Message - From: Jeremiah Rogers jeremiahzrog...@gmail.com mailto:jeremiahzrog...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:35 PM Subject: Re: typing on the phone One question for you split tappers, any tips for when to switch the duties of fingers? Do you have certain letter combos, certain words, etc where you just know you're tapper will become the hunter? Just having sent a couple texts with the split tap method, that's the only thing that seemed odd. I've learned much from this typing discussion. Initially, I loved the touch typing method, but it seems to me that iOS has gotten less responsive, even across hardware, than I remember it being when I got my first iOS device most of two years ago. It may just be my expectations, but I remember touch typing faster, and more accurately, when I got that device than I can now. Prompted by this thread, I'm trying out the split tap method and am quite intrigued. Jeremiah Z. Rogers Mobile: 704-996-5334 tel:704-996-5334 Email: jeremiahzrog...@gmail.com mailto:jeremiahzrog...@gmail.com On 5/19/12, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com mailto:juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote: I've found that typingwith both index fingers in portrait work using touch typing works reallly well. I'm not a whiz at it, but it's working. Jane On May 19, 2012, at 5:29 AM, Rob Harris wrote: Ok, just trying this thumbs thing, so got the phone sideways, so hand over the one main speaker outlet; so couldn't hear it. Moved hands a bit, now doesn't hold very comfortably; but got a text donein the end. Once you learn a thing one way, there needs to be a darned good motivation to undo it and learn it another. RobH. - Original Message - From: Holly thistleshamrock2...@gmail.com mailto:thistleshamrock2...@gmail.com To: VIPhone viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 2:09 AM Subject: Re: typing on the phone I usually type with my thumbs, but sometimes with my right index finger. I became accustomed to typing with my thumbs while using a querty keyboard on an android. I have used a home row on a computer since age nine, so learning to locate keys with my thumbs was not too hard. I am not very fast, but it works. I have a bluetooth keyboard for longer typing needs. Holly and Ajax -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google
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This is a very nice app, however it would be nice if multiple Braille codes were supported, such as American and UK English, maybe UEB as well. Support for grade 2 would help significantly as it means less typing of course. Otherwise I love the app and use it indispensably. Christopher Hallsworth On 29/05/2012 09:37, EWTEch Accessibility wrote: Hi everybody, we are the Accessibility Team of EveryWare Technologies, the developers of TypeInBraille app. We'd like to know what do you think about our app and if you consider it as a good solution to type on your mobile device. For those who want to get more information about TypeInBraille: http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille Thank you On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jeremiah Rogersjeremiahzrog...@gmail.com wrote: Hi CJ. The initial appeal to me of touch typing was just as you described - I liked not having to hunt for te next letter. I did well at immediately finding the next letter I wanted. Unfortunately though, I seem to be missing the letter on the first try more often now than I used to. I'm also intrigued by the thumb thing. Will try that when I've more time. Jeremiah On 5/21/12, Rob Harrisbobs...@googlemail.com wrote: Depends if the tapper is likely to hit the edge of the screen, then we have to swap or change angle dramatically, and have to do a certain amount even when touch typing as control type keys need it regardless. - shift, return, More numbers/letter/other, etc. But a recent theme about double thumb typing offered an interesting deviation in which case covering half the kb each, the appropriate thumb hunts and the other taps, and vicerVersa. - Original Message - From: Jeremiah Rogersjeremiahzrog...@gmail.com To:viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:35 PM Subject: Re: typing on the phone One question for you split tappers, any tips for when to switch the duties of fingers? Do you have certain letter combos, certain words, etc where you just know you're tapper will become the hunter? Just having sent a couple texts with the split tap method, that's the only thing that seemed odd. I've learned much from this typing discussion. Initially, I loved the touch typing method, but it seems to me that iOS has gotten less responsive, even across hardware, than I remember it being when I got my first iOS device most of two years ago. It may just be my expectations, but I remember touch typing faster, and more accurately, when I got that device than I can now. Prompted by this thread, I'm trying out the split tap method and am quite intrigued. Jeremiah Z. Rogers Mobile: 704-996-5334 Email: jeremiahzrog...@gmail.com On 5/19/12, Janejuanitatig...@gmail.com wrote: I've found that typingwith both index fingers in portrait work using touch typing works reallly well. I'm not a whiz at it, but it's working. Jane On May 19, 2012, at 5:29 AM, Rob Harris wrote: Ok, just trying this thumbs thing, so got the phone sideways, so hand over the one main speaker outlet; so couldn't hear it. Moved hands a bit, now doesn't hold very comfortably; but got a text donein the end. Once you learn a thing one way, there needs to be a darned good motivation to undo it and learn it another. RobH. - Original Message - From: Hollythistleshamrock2...@gmail.com To: VIPhoneviphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 2:09 AM Subject: Re: typing on the phone I usually type with my thumbs, but sometimes with my right index finger. I became accustomed to typing with my thumbs while using a querty keyboard on an android. I have used a home row on a computer since age nine, so learning to locate keys with my thumbs was not too hard. I am not very fast, but it works. I have a bluetooth keyboard for longer typing needs. Holly and Ajax -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
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Yep, I understand that it won't help with learning to read brail other then to help me remember the basic formations of the letters etc, it really does come down to the investment of time though. I guess a better question is, do you think the use of an app like this would be detrimental? I don't really see how it would be and may give me the impetus to commit some real time. On 29/05/2012, at 10:01 PM, Marianne Denning wrote: Garth, learning to tactually read braille is the critical piece and this won't do that. I have been a rehabilitation teacher and am currently a teacher of students who are visually impaired. If you will commit the time to learn braille you will be pleased even if you use it on a limited basis. You may or may not read novels using braille but there are many other daily uses of braille. On 5/29/12, Garth Humphreys ghu...@gmail.com wrote: Okay, I am one of those stupid blind people who had enough sight when I was young to think I wouldn't need to learn brail. What can I say, teenage boys are often stupid. Anyway I was given a smattering of brail lessons but remember very little. I have been thinking of learning to read brail but aren't sure where I'd find the time. What are peoples thoughts to at least starting to learn the formations of letters with an app like this. Garth On 29/05/2012, at 9:13 PM, chris hallsworth wrote: This is a very nice app, however it would be nice if multiple Braille codes were supported, such as American and UK English, maybe UEB as well. Support for grade 2 would help significantly as it means less typing of course. Otherwise I love the app and use it indispensably. Christopher Hallsworth On 29/05/2012 09:37, EWTEch Accessibility wrote: Hi everybody, we are the Accessibility Team of EveryWare Technologies, the developers of TypeInBraille app. We'd like to know what do you think about our app and if you consider it as a good solution to type on your mobile device. For those who want to get more information about TypeInBraille: http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille Thank you On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jeremiah Rogersjeremiahzrog...@gmail.com wrote: Hi CJ. The initial appeal to me of touch typing was just as you described - I liked not having to hunt for te next letter. I did well at immediately finding the next letter I wanted. Unfortunately though, I seem to be missing the letter on the first try more often now than I used to. I'm also intrigued by the thumb thing. Will try that when I've more time. Jeremiah On 5/21/12, Rob Harrisbobs...@googlemail.com wrote: Depends if the tapper is likely to hit the edge of the screen, then we have to swap or change angle dramatically, and have to do a certain amount even when touch typing as control type keys need it regardless. - shift, return, More numbers/letter/other, etc. But a recent theme about double thumb typing offered an interesting deviation in which case covering half the kb each, the appropriate thumb hunts and the other taps, and vicerVersa. - Original Message - From: Jeremiah Rogersjeremiahzrog...@gmail.com To:viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:35 PM Subject: Re: typing on the phone One question for you split tappers, any tips for when to switch the duties of fingers? Do you have certain letter combos, certain words, etc where you just know you're tapper will become the hunter? Just having sent a couple texts with the split tap method, that's the only thing that seemed odd. I've learned much from this typing discussion. Initially, I loved the touch typing method, but it seems to me that iOS has gotten less responsive, even across hardware, than I remember it being when I got my first iOS device most of two years ago. It may just be my expectations, but I remember touch typing faster, and more accurately, when I got that device than I can now. Prompted by this thread, I'm trying out the split tap method and am quite intrigued. Jeremiah Z. Rogers Mobile: 704-996-5334 Email: jeremiahzrog...@gmail.com On 5/19/12, Janejuanitatig...@gmail.com wrote: I've found that typingwith both index fingers in portrait work using touch typing works reallly well. I'm not a whiz at it, but it's working. Jane On May 19, 2012, at 5:29 AM, Rob Harris wrote: Ok, just trying this thumbs thing, so got the phone sideways, so hand over the one main speaker outlet; so couldn't hear it. Moved hands a bit, now doesn't hold very comfortably; but got a text donein the end. Once you learn a thing one way, there needs to be a darned good motivation to undo it and learn it another. RobH. - Original Message - From: Hollythistleshamrock2...@gmail.com To: VIPhoneviphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 2:09 AM Subject: Re: typing on the phone I usually type with my thumbs, but sometimes with my right
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I don't think it would be detrimental but I question if it would be helpful. Let me know how it goes if you decide to try it. On 5/29/12, Garth Humphreys ghu...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, I understand that it won't help with learning to read brail other then to help me remember the basic formations of the letters etc, it really does come down to the investment of time though. I guess a better question is, do you think the use of an app like this would be detrimental? I don't really see how it would be and may give me the impetus to commit some real time. On 29/05/2012, at 10:01 PM, Marianne Denning wrote: Garth, learning to tactually read braille is the critical piece and this won't do that. I have been a rehabilitation teacher and am currently a teacher of students who are visually impaired. If you will commit the time to learn braille you will be pleased even if you use it on a limited basis. You may or may not read novels using braille but there are many other daily uses of braille. On 5/29/12, Garth Humphreys ghu...@gmail.com wrote: Okay, I am one of those stupid blind people who had enough sight when I was young to think I wouldn't need to learn brail. What can I say, teenage boys are often stupid. Anyway I was given a smattering of brail lessons but remember very little. I have been thinking of learning to read brail but aren't sure where I'd find the time. What are peoples thoughts to at least starting to learn the formations of letters with an app like this. Garth On 29/05/2012, at 9:13 PM, chris hallsworth wrote: This is a very nice app, however it would be nice if multiple Braille codes were supported, such as American and UK English, maybe UEB as well. Support for grade 2 would help significantly as it means less typing of course. Otherwise I love the app and use it indispensably. Christopher Hallsworth On 29/05/2012 09:37, EWTEch Accessibility wrote: Hi everybody, we are the Accessibility Team of EveryWare Technologies, the developers of TypeInBraille app. We'd like to know what do you think about our app and if you consider it as a good solution to type on your mobile device. For those who want to get more information about TypeInBraille: http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille Thank you On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jeremiah Rogersjeremiahzrog...@gmail.com wrote: Hi CJ. The initial appeal to me of touch typing was just as you described - I liked not having to hunt for te next letter. I did well at immediately finding the next letter I wanted. Unfortunately though, I seem to be missing the letter on the first try more often now than I used to. I'm also intrigued by the thumb thing. Will try that when I've more time. Jeremiah On 5/21/12, Rob Harrisbobs...@googlemail.com wrote: Depends if the tapper is likely to hit the edge of the screen, then we have to swap or change angle dramatically, and have to do a certain amount even when touch typing as control type keys need it regardless. - shift, return, More numbers/letter/other, etc. But a recent theme about double thumb typing offered an interesting deviation in which case covering half the kb each, the appropriate thumb hunts and the other taps, and vicerVersa. - Original Message - From: Jeremiah Rogersjeremiahzrog...@gmail.com To:viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:35 PM Subject: Re: typing on the phone One question for you split tappers, any tips for when to switch the duties of fingers? Do you have certain letter combos, certain words, etc where you just know you're tapper will become the hunter? Just having sent a couple texts with the split tap method, that's the only thing that seemed odd. I've learned much from this typing discussion. Initially, I loved the touch typing method, but it seems to me that iOS has gotten less responsive, even across hardware, than I remember it being when I got my first iOS device most of two years ago. It may just be my expectations, but I remember touch typing faster, and more accurately, when I got that device than I can now. Prompted by this thread, I'm trying out the split tap method and am quite intrigued. Jeremiah Z. Rogers Mobile: 704-996-5334 Email: jeremiahzrog...@gmail.com On 5/19/12, Janejuanitatig...@gmail.com wrote: I've found that typingwith both index fingers in portrait work using touch typing works reallly well. I'm not a whiz at it, but it's working. Jane On May 19, 2012, at 5:29 AM, Rob Harris wrote: Ok, just trying this thumbs thing, so got the phone sideways, so hand over the one main speaker outlet; so couldn't hear it. Moved hands a bit, now doesn't hold very comfortably; but got a text donein the end. Once you learn a thing one way, there needs to be a darned good motivation to undo it and learn it another. RobH. - Original Message - From: Hollythistleshamrock2...@gmail.com To:
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Seems like there would be easier ways to learn Braille than by forming each letter one row at a time. It may be worth a try though. Good luck. Sent from Kimber's iPhone On May 29, 2012, at 7:44 AM, Garth Humphreys ghu...@gmail.com wrote: Okay, I am one of those stupid blind people who had enough sight when I was young to think I wouldn't need to learn brail. What can I say, teenage boys are often stupid. Anyway I was given a smattering of brail lessons but remember very little. I have been thinking of learning to read brail but aren't sure where I'd find the time. What are peoples thoughts to at least starting to learn the formations of letters with an app like this. Garth On 29/05/2012, at 9:13 PM, chris hallsworth wrote: This is a very nice app, however it would be nice if multiple Braille codes were supported, such as American and UK English, maybe UEB as well. Support for grade 2 would help significantly as it means less typing of course. Otherwise I love the app and use it indispensably. Christopher Hallsworth On 29/05/2012 09:37, EWTEch Accessibility wrote: Hi everybody, we are the Accessibility Team of EveryWare Technologies, the developers of TypeInBraille app. We'd like to know what do you think about our app and if you consider it as a good solution to type on your mobile device. For those who want to get more information about TypeInBraille: http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille Thank you On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jeremiah Rogersjeremiahzrog...@gmail.com wrote: Hi CJ. The initial appeal to me of touch typing was just as you described - I liked not having to hunt for te next letter. I did well at immediately finding the next letter I wanted. Unfortunately though, I seem to be missing the letter on the first try more often now than I used to. I'm also intrigued by the thumb thing. Will try that when I've more time. Jeremiah On 5/21/12, Rob Harrisbobs...@googlemail.com wrote: Depends if the tapper is likely to hit the edge of the screen, then we have to swap or change angle dramatically, and have to do a certain amount even when touch typing as control type keys need it regardless. - shift, return, More numbers/letter/other, etc. But a recent theme about double thumb typing offered an interesting deviation in which case covering half the kb each, the appropriate thumb hunts and the other taps, and vicerVersa. - Original Message - From: Jeremiah Rogersjeremiahzrog...@gmail.com To:viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:35 PM Subject: Re: typing on the phone One question for you split tappers, any tips for when to switch the duties of fingers? Do you have certain letter combos, certain words, etc where you just know you're tapper will become the hunter? Just having sent a couple texts with the split tap method, that's the only thing that seemed odd. I've learned much from this typing discussion. Initially, I loved the touch typing method, but it seems to me that iOS has gotten less responsive, even across hardware, than I remember it being when I got my first iOS device most of two years ago. It may just be my expectations, but I remember touch typing faster, and more accurately, when I got that device than I can now. Prompted by this thread, I'm trying out the split tap method and am quite intrigued. Jeremiah Z. Rogers Mobile: 704-996-5334 Email: jeremiahzrog...@gmail.com On 5/19/12, Janejuanitatig...@gmail.com wrote: I've found that typingwith both index fingers in portrait work using touch typing works reallly well. I'm not a whiz at it, but it's working. Jane On May 19, 2012, at 5:29 AM, Rob Harris wrote: Ok, just trying this thumbs thing, so got the phone sideways, so hand over the one main speaker outlet; so couldn't hear it. Moved hands a bit, now doesn't hold very comfortably; but got a text donein the end. Once you learn a thing one way, there needs to be a darned good motivation to undo it and learn it another. RobH. - Original Message - From: Hollythistleshamrock2...@gmail.com To: VIPhoneviphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 2:09 AM Subject: Re: typing on the phone I usually type with my thumbs, but sometimes with my right index finger. I became accustomed to typing with my thumbs while using a querty keyboard on an android. I have used a home row on a computer since age nine, so learning to locate keys with my thumbs was not too hard. I am not very fast, but it works. I have a bluetooth keyboard for longer typing needs. Holly and Ajax -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
Re: typing on the phone
Hmm i may have to give it a try especially given how slow I am with the touch typing. Sent from Kimber's iPhone On May 29, 2012, at 7:13 AM, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: This is a very nice app, however it would be nice if multiple Braille codes were supported, such as American and UK English, maybe UEB as well. Support for grade 2 would help significantly as it means less typing of course. Otherwise I love the app and use it indispensably. Christopher Hallsworth On 29/05/2012 09:37, EWTEch Accessibility wrote: Hi everybody, we are the Accessibility Team of EveryWare Technologies, the developers of TypeInBraille app. We'd like to know what do you think about our app and if you consider it as a good solution to type on your mobile device. For those who want to get more information about TypeInBraille: http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille Thank you On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jeremiah Rogersjeremiahzrog...@gmail.com wrote: Hi CJ. The initial appeal to me of touch typing was just as you described - I liked not having to hunt for te next letter. I did well at immediately finding the next letter I wanted. Unfortunately though, I seem to be missing the letter on the first try more often now than I used to. I'm also intrigued by the thumb thing. Will try that when I've more time. Jeremiah On 5/21/12, Rob Harrisbobs...@googlemail.com wrote: Depends if the tapper is likely to hit the edge of the screen, then we have to swap or change angle dramatically, and have to do a certain amount even when touch typing as control type keys need it regardless. - shift, return, More numbers/letter/other, etc. But a recent theme about double thumb typing offered an interesting deviation in which case covering half the kb each, the appropriate thumb hunts and the other taps, and vicerVersa. - Original Message - From: Jeremiah Rogersjeremiahzrog...@gmail.com To:viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:35 PM Subject: Re: typing on the phone One question for you split tappers, any tips for when to switch the duties of fingers? Do you have certain letter combos, certain words, etc where you just know you're tapper will become the hunter? Just having sent a couple texts with the split tap method, that's the only thing that seemed odd. I've learned much from this typing discussion. Initially, I loved the touch typing method, but it seems to me that iOS has gotten less responsive, even across hardware, than I remember it being when I got my first iOS device most of two years ago. It may just be my expectations, but I remember touch typing faster, and more accurately, when I got that device than I can now. Prompted by this thread, I'm trying out the split tap method and am quite intrigued. Jeremiah Z. Rogers Mobile: 704-996-5334 Email: jeremiahzrog...@gmail.com On 5/19/12, Janejuanitatig...@gmail.com wrote: I've found that typingwith both index fingers in portrait work using touch typing works reallly well. I'm not a whiz at it, but it's working. Jane On May 19, 2012, at 5:29 AM, Rob Harris wrote: Ok, just trying this thumbs thing, so got the phone sideways, so hand over the one main speaker outlet; so couldn't hear it. Moved hands a bit, now doesn't hold very comfortably; but got a text donein the end. Once you learn a thing one way, there needs to be a darned good motivation to undo it and learn it another. RobH. - Original Message - From: Hollythistleshamrock2...@gmail.com To: VIPhoneviphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 2:09 AM Subject: Re: typing on the phone I usually type with my thumbs, but sometimes with my right index finger. I became accustomed to typing with my thumbs while using a querty keyboard on an android. I have used a home row on a computer since age nine, so learning to locate keys with my thumbs was not too hard. I am not very fast, but it works. I have a bluetooth keyboard for longer typing needs. Holly and Ajax -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received
Re: ,Facebook app
Hello Ed and Fellow Listers, I want to thank you all for your patience and suggestions to get me started on FB via the use of Voicebook. I feel comfortable now but see that Voicebook is very limited in terms of the full Facebook experience. I am hoping the Voicebook developers can expand their app to broaden its scope very soon. In the meantime, I think I'll move onto Facely HD. The regular Facebook app is just too confusing to me. I suspect that much of my problem is that I'm just not familiar with the various FB terms, such as Messages, Status, Notifications,etc Is there a Podcast that you might recommend to help me better understand which is which? Pete Sent from my iPad On May 27, 2012, at 10:50 AM, Ed Worrell blindworr...@optimum.net wrote: Hey Peter, I was on the beta team for VoiceBook, and it is a very straight forward app if all you want to do is read statuses, like, comment, and read comments on your friends statuses. It also lets you post a status really easily. To get you started when you get logged-in for the first time, VoiceBook will take alittle while to load, but as soon as it does it will read the first status out, then to go to a new status you will want to flick one finger down, if this doesn't work make sure that your focus is reading the status. If you want to comment or like that status double tap on the status and it will open a menu and there are several options here the options are pretty easy to figure out. If you have any questions feel free to ask. Ed -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Ipad Gestures
Hi list, I got an Ipad2 a couple weeks ago and I'm enjoying it immensely. the main diffiulty i'm still overcoming is in terms of the gestures. Wen reading email, the list of messages is listed and then the current email is on the bottom or right. Does anyone have suggestions on gestures to move more fluidly from one area to the other? Thanks fo rany suggestions Regards Kerry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Ipad Gestures
Well, I have mine in landscape, I use both thumbs and slide left thunb down the message list, use the right thumb to do a split tap on one of them, then use the right thumb alone in the middle of the right pane where the body of the current message is and read it like that until I've had enough, then revert to left thumb down the message list again and so on. The top-left corner hold the bak button if you want to go to look at other accounts or mail folders. Hth, RobH. - Original Message - From: Kerryann Ifill resurrectio...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 5:10 PM Subject: Ipad Gestures Hi list, I got an Ipad2 a couple weeks ago and I'm enjoying it immensely. the main diffiulty i'm still overcoming is in terms of the gestures. Wen reading email, the list of messages is listed and then the current email is on the bottom or right. Does anyone have suggestions on gestures to move more fluidly from one area to the other? Thanks fo rany suggestions Regards Kerry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
A question about Draftpad
Hi All, I recently downloaded a text editing app called Draftpad. One of the functions is the ability to email what you've written to yourself. The problem is when I choose the email option and enter my email address, the text ends up in the subject line of the email rather than in the body. I can't figure out what I'm missing. Can anyone help? Thanks, Kimber On 5/29/12, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com wrote: The app I think you are talking about is not accessible. The only marginally accessible app that will allow you to edit Word documents is Pages. It is only marginally accessible in my experience. Not worth the $9.99 unless you can use it with vision. Richard _ From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 5:53 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Documents 2 Free Text Editors in General Hi, forgive me if I've misspelled the name of this app. It would appear you can edit Word documents. Is that true? I'm looking for something that can synchronize with Dropbox, and while I've found several editors for text format, I want to find something that will work with Doc and DocX since reading by paragraph is smoother with VoiceOver using those file formats. Thanks for any recommendations you can pass along.--Joe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- Kimberly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: A question about Draftpad
You need to put the subject of the email on the first line. Then hit enter twice and put the rest of the text unerneath. Jane On May 29, 2012, at 1:01 PM, Kimber Gardner wrote: Hi All, I recently downloaded a text editing app called Draftpad. One of the functions is the ability to email what you've written to yourself. The problem is when I choose the email option and enter my email address, the text ends up in the subject line of the email rather than in the body. I can't figure out what I'm missing. Can anyone help? Thanks, Kimber On 5/29/12, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com wrote: The app I think you are talking about is not accessible. The only marginally accessible app that will allow you to edit Word documents is Pages. It is only marginally accessible in my experience. Not worth the $9.99 unless you can use it with vision. Richard _ From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 5:53 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Documents 2 Free Text Editors in General Hi, forgive me if I've misspelled the name of this app. It would appear you can edit Word documents. Is that true? I'm looking for something that can synchronize with Dropbox, and while I've found several editors for text format, I want to find something that will work with Doc and DocX since reading by paragraph is smoother with VoiceOver using those file formats. Thanks for any recommendations you can pass along.--Joe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- Kimberly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: Apps to learn Braille was Re: typing on the phone
There is one that will help you memorize the code, but it can't test you on it, nor does it give the usage rules, of which there are many. Braille Reference, $0.99 has the American braille code plus computer braille. You should sign up for Hadley if you don't have a local option for learning braille tactilely. Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 8:26 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Apps to learn Braille was Re: typing on the phone Hello all is there an app, free or paid, that can sort of teach Braille and perhaps test you on it? Thanks! Christopher Hallsworth On 29/05/2012 12:44, Garth Humphreys wrote: Okay, I am one of those stupid blind people who had enough sight when I was young to think I wouldn't need to learn brail. What can I say, teenage boys are often stupid. Anyway I was given a smattering of brail lessons but remember very little. I have been thinking of learning to read brail but aren't sure where I'd find the time. What are peoples thoughts to at least starting to learn the formations of letters with an app like this. Garth On 29/05/2012, at 9:13 PM, chris hallsworth wrote: This is a very nice app, however it would be nice if multiple Braille codes were supported, such as American and UK English, maybe UEB as well. Support for grade 2 would help significantly as it means less typing of course. Otherwise I love the app and use it indispensably. Christopher Hallsworth On 29/05/2012 09:37, EWTEch Accessibility wrote: Hi everybody, we are the Accessibility Team of EveryWare Technologies, the developers of TypeInBraille app. We'd like to know what do you think about our app and if you consider it as a good solution to type on your mobile device. For those who want to get more information about TypeInBraille: http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille Thank you On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jeremiah Rogersjeremiahzrog...@gmail.com wrote: Hi CJ. The initial appeal to me of touch typing was just as you described - I liked not having to hunt for te next letter. I did well at immediately finding the next letter I wanted. Unfortunately though, I seem to be missing the letter on the first try more often now than I used to. I'm also intrigued by the thumb thing. Will try that when I've more time. Jeremiah On 5/21/12, Rob Harrisbobs...@googlemail.com wrote: Depends if the tapper is likely to hit the edge of the screen, then we have to swap or change angle dramatically, and have to do a certain amount even when touch typing as control type keys need it regardless. - shift, return, More numbers/letter/other, etc. But a recent theme about double thumb typing offered an interesting deviation in which case covering half the kb each, the appropriate thumb hunts and the other taps, and vicerVersa. - Original Message - From: Jeremiah Rogersjeremiahzrog...@gmail.com To:viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:35 PM Subject: Re: typing on the phone One question for you split tappers, any tips for when to switch the duties of fingers? Do you have certain letter combos, certain words, etc where you just know you're tapper will become the hunter? Just having sent a couple texts with the split tap method, that's the only thing that seemed odd. I've learned much from this typing discussion. Initially, I loved the touch typing method, but it seems to me that iOS has gotten less responsive, even across hardware, than I remember it being when I got my first iOS device most of two years ago. It may just be my expectations, but I remember touch typing faster, and more accurately, when I got that device than I can now. Prompted by this thread, I'm trying out the split tap method and am quite intrigued. Jeremiah Z. Rogers Mobile: 704-996-5334 Email: jeremiahzrog...@gmail.com On 5/19/12, Janejuanitatig...@gmail.com wrote: I've found that typingwith both index fingers in portrait work using touch typing works reallly well. I'm not a whiz at it, but it's working. Jane On May 19, 2012, at 5:29 AM, Rob Harris wrote: Ok, just trying this thumbs thing, so got the phone sideways, so hand over the one main speaker outlet; so couldn't hear it. Moved hands a bit, now doesn't hold very comfortably; but got a text donein the end. Once you learn a thing one way, there needs to be a darned good motivation to undo it and learn it another. RobH. - Original Message - From: Hollythistleshamrock2...@gmail.com To: VIPhoneviphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 2:09 AM Subject: Re: typing on the phone I usually type with my thumbs, but sometimes with my right index finger. I became accustomed to typing with my thumbs while using a querty keyboard on an android. I have used a home row on a computer since age nine, so learning to locate
podcast URL voicebrief
Does anyone have the URL for the podcast for voice brief? I've googled and looked on Vision Australia's website, with no success. I'm quite interested in learning more. Thanks, Traci Sent by Macbook Air Mail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: TextFree seems to be a good app
Hi, I am in Ghana, West Africa. I'm looking for an accessible app that I can use to make international calls, can I use textfree? Which is the best app? Thanks, Godwin -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 12:55 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: TextFree seems to be a good app Is this phone number a DID number you could use with a SIP client?--Joe -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 7:41 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: TextFree seems to be a good app I just thought I'd share my experience so far with TextFree here. I had used it a few years ago and let it expire, but I had reason to go back to it yesterday actually because of texting a lot with someone on an IPod touch that doesn't have and doesn't seem to want to upgrade to IOS 5.x with IMessage in it. So this app is nicely accessible and has the added benefits of being able to make and receive calls and voicemail now. One nice benefit is you can get what if you want it to can be a completely free additional local phone number. You could pick another area code too if you wanted. That can give a number to put in things or give out where you would prefer not to give your actual cell number and if things go for any reason how you don't want them to with that number, just let it expire. That's just a thought and there are other ways to do that as well though. The HD quality calling is quite nice too. The texting is always free and the calling gives you like 20 minutes a month outgoing and all incoming free. To buy a hundred minutes more is $1.99. To get rid of the ads for a year is $5.00. What it didn't have before when I used it a few years ago was the way to buy more minutes. Definitely useful to have the app. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: A question about Draftpad
Let me suggest an experiment: on the basis it might, or even ought to know or be able to find your default email address, put a suitable subject line in that field and see if the ap sends the text correctly anyway. Don't try it with a lengthy or important missive. - Original Message - From: Kimber Gardner kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 6:01 PM Subject: A question about Draftpad Hi All, I recently downloaded a text editing app called Draftpad. One of the functions is the ability to email what you've written to yourself. The problem is when I choose the email option and enter my email address, the text ends up in the subject line of the email rather than in the body. I can't figure out what I'm missing. Can anyone help? Thanks, Kimber On 5/29/12, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com wrote: The app I think you are talking about is not accessible. The only marginally accessible app that will allow you to edit Word documents is Pages. It is only marginally accessible in my experience. Not worth the $9.99 unless you can use it with vision. Richard _ From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 5:53 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Documents 2 Free Text Editors in General Hi, forgive me if I've misspelled the name of this app. It would appear you can edit Word documents. Is that true? I'm looking for something that can synchronize with Dropbox, and while I've found several editors for text format, I want to find something that will work with Doc and DocX since reading by paragraph is smoother with VoiceOver using those file formats. Thanks for any recommendations you can pass along.--Joe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- Kimberly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: A question about Draftpad
Yo can tell how good the rest of it is then, new or alternative editors are always worth learning about and we can't try them all. - Original Message - From: Kimber Gardner kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 6:01 PM Subject: A question about Draftpad Hi All, I recently downloaded a text editing app called Draftpad. One of the functions is the ability to email what you've written to yourself. The problem is when I choose the email option and enter my email address, the text ends up in the subject line of the email rather than in the body. I can't figure out what I'm missing. Can anyone help? Thanks, Kimber On 5/29/12, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com wrote: The app I think you are talking about is not accessible. The only marginally accessible app that will allow you to edit Word documents is Pages. It is only marginally accessible in my experience. Not worth the $9.99 unless you can use it with vision. Richard _ From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 5:53 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Documents 2 Free Text Editors in General Hi, forgive me if I've misspelled the name of this app. It would appear you can edit Word documents. Is that true? I'm looking for something that can synchronize with Dropbox, and while I've found several editors for text format, I want to find something that will work with Doc and DocX since reading by paragraph is smoother with VoiceOver using those file formats. Thanks for any recommendations you can pass along.--Joe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- Kimberly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Alva BC6 Series and iOS devices
Hello all from what I have read you need the Braille audio otherwise known as feature pack installed and working. Christopher Hallsworth On 29/05/2012 18:09, Joel Zimba wrote: perhaps I'm doing something wrong, but with an Alva bc640, I can't get the braille keyboard to work. The display is great, but the keyboard, not so much. If there is a work-around to this, I'd love to know. Joel On 5/28/2012 11:26 AM, chris hallsworth wrote: How well does this combination work for you using iOS 5.1.1? Any drop outs in connections at all? Any tips and tricks to be aware of? Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Ipad Gestures
Hi Kerry, Since the iPad screen is a bit larger, it's easier for me to learn the layout of the Email screen, locate the Email and then use the 2 finger swipe down to read. Then find where the Delete, Reply or Move buttons are by touching the screen. Moving around the mail screen is difficult with jestures. It's a bit faster with a BT keyboard, but only a little. Pete ent from my iPad On May 29, 2012, at 12:10 PM, Kerryann Ifill resurrectio...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list, I got an Ipad2 a couple weeks ago and I'm enjoying it immensely. the main diffiulty i'm still overcoming is in terms of the gestures. Wen reading email, the list of messages is listed and then the current email is on the bottom or right. Does anyone have suggestions on gestures to move more fluidly from one area to the other? Thanks fo rany suggestions Regards Kerry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
[Mac-cessibility News] New Facebook app makes accessing Facebook easier for VoiceOver, updated
New Facebook app makes accessing Facebook easier for VoiceOver, updated If you are a blind person, you understand the love/hate relationship with Facebook. Facebook likes to change their interface about monthly, and it gets frustrating. Active Information systems has developed an app called voice book VO that helps with this. It is a basic Facebook app for ios. So far you can only really read [...] You can read the rest of this news item at: http://www.lioncourt.com/2012/05/26/new-facebook-app-makes-accessing-facebook-easier-for-voiceover/ The Mac-cessibility Network ...it's all within our reach... http://maccessibility.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Ipad Gestures
Hi You may want to enable containers in the rotor, I am not sure if it will help much but if you want to use gestures to move around the screen then this will at least expand your options. I can't remember if it is enabled by default. Whilst in your mail, use the rotor gesture and see if containers is an option. If it is then great, experiment with it. If not, go into your accessibility settings and into VO then go to the rotor settings and add containers. Oh by the way, containers lets you jump between the major sections of the screen with a single finger swipe down/up. Personally though I use a similar method as already described by the others. With the iPad, it is really worth some time in exploring exactly where on the screen each thing is and then just touch the screen there to move focus. I will sometimes swipe between the move, delete and reply buttons in the mail app but otherwise I prefer to look for what I want by dragging. Hope this helps. Garth. On 30/05/2012, at 5:11 AM, Peter Lane wrote: Hi Kerry, Since the iPad screen is a bit larger, it's easier for me to learn the layout of the Email screen, locate the Email and then use the 2 finger swipe down to read. Then find where the Delete, Reply or Move buttons are by touching the screen. Moving around the mail screen is difficult with jestures. It's a bit faster with a BT keyboard, but only a little. Pete ent from my iPad On May 29, 2012, at 12:10 PM, Kerryann Ifill resurrectio...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list, I got an Ipad2 a couple weeks ago and I'm enjoying it immensely. the main diffiulty i'm still overcoming is in terms of the gestures. Wen reading email, the list of messages is listed and then the current email is on the bottom or right. Does anyone have suggestions on gestures to move more fluidly from one area to the other? Thanks fo rany suggestions Regards Kerry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: iOS 5.1.1 Untethered Jailbreak Now Available
Hello: Log on to my server at: ftp.compuconference.com There, you will find both the Windows and the Mac versions of Absinthe 2.0.2. Cheers. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of jack Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 12:15 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 Untethered Jailbreak Now Available Hello, I am unable to get the jailbreak 5.1.1 to download from the windows link. I would appreciate a link where I can download the break. Thanks much for your help. -Original Message- From: Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 10:30 AM To: ViPhone Users List Subject: iOS 5.1.1 Untethered Jailbreak Now Available I just saw this on Life Hacker. I haven't tried it yet, but I probably will update my phone this weekend if it proves to be accurate. Note the link may wrap around. http://lifehacker.com/5913285/ios-511-untethered-jailbreak-now-available?utm _campaign=socialflow_lifehacker_twitterutm_source=lifehacker_twitterutm_me dium=socialflow -- Raul A. Gallegos That awkward moment when all your friends are visiting and your dog walks in the room with your underwear in his mouth. Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Alva BC6 Series and iOS devices
Hello, You need to update your Alva to the latest firmware. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 30/05/2012, at 5:09, Joel Zimba zimbameis...@gmail.com wrote: perhaps I'm doing something wrong, but with an Alva bc640, I can't get the braille keyboard to work. The display is great, but the keyboard, not so much. If there is a work-around to this, I'd love to know. Joel On 5/28/2012 11:26 AM, chris hallsworth wrote: How well does this combination work for you using iOS 5.1.1? Any drop outs in connections at all? Any tips and tricks to be aware of? Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: typing on the phone
Just curious. Does this application work also for the browser, or just texting and such. My issue isn't so much with texts, as I'm not a huge texter, more so searching and entering information in forms in safari. Thanks. Take Care On 5/29/2012 6:05 PM, Carol Pearson wrote: ;Hithere I find it a good and useful app though don't get around to using it too often. I do find the punctuation doesn't come naturally and that's one main reason why I don't use it more. Having been a Braillist for getting on for 60 years, it's also hard to think in a different concept for writing and I'd therefore still prefer to write with two hands in a normal way. All this said, remember I do like the app very much and commend you on your efforts to date. -- Carol P Original Message From: EWTEch Accessibility To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 9:37 AM Subject: Re: typing on the phone Hi everybody, we are the Accessibility Team of EveryWare Technologies, the developers of TypeInBraille app. We'd like to know what do you think about our app and if you consider it as a good solution to type on your mobile device. For those who want to get more information about TypeInBraille: http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille Thank you On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jeremiah Rogers jeremiahzrog...@gmail.com wrote: Hi CJ. The initial appeal to me of touch typing was just as you described - I liked not having to hunt for te next letter. I did well at immediately finding the next letter I wanted. Unfortunately though, I seem to be missing the letter on the first try more often now than I used to. I'm also intrigued by the thumb thing. Will try that when I've more time. Jeremiah On 5/21/12, Rob Harrisbobs...@googlemail.com wrote: Depends if the tapper is likely to hit the edge of the screen, then we have to swap or change angle dramatically, and have to do a certain amount even when touch typing as control type keys need it regardless. - shift, return, More numbers/letter/other, etc. But a recent theme about double thumb typing offered an interesting deviation in which case covering half the kb each, the appropriate thumb hunts and the other taps, and vicerVersa. - Original Message - From: Jeremiah Rogersjeremiahzrog...@gmail.com To:viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:35 PM Subject: Re: typing on the phone One question for you split tappers, any tips for when to switch the duties of fingers? Do you have certain letter combos, certain words, etc where you just know you're tapper will become the hunter? Just having sent a couple texts with the split tap method, that's the only thing that seemed odd. I've learned much from this typing discussion. Initially, I loved the touch typing method, but it seems to me that iOS has gotten less responsive, even across hardware, than I remember it being when I got my first iOS device most of two years ago. It may just be my expectations, but I remember touch typing faster, and more accurately, when I got that device than I can now. Prompted by this thread, I'm trying out the split tap method and am quite intrigued. Jeremiah Z. Rogers Mobile: 704-996-5334 Email: jeremiahzrog...@gmail.com On 5/19/12, Janejuanitatig...@gmail.com wrote: I've found that typingwith both index fingers in portrait work using touch typing works reallly well. I'm not a whiz at it, but it's working. Jane On May 19, 2012, at 5:29 AM, Rob Harris wrote: Ok, just trying this thumbs thing, so got the phone sideways, so hand over the one main speaker outlet; so couldn't hear it. Moved hands a bit, now doesn't hold very comfortably; but got a text donein the end. Once you learn a thing one way, there needs to be a darned good motivation to undo it and learn it another. RobH. - Original Message - From: Hollythistleshamrock2...@gmail.com To: VIPhoneviphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 2:09 AM Subject: Re: typing on the phone I usually type with my thumbs, but sometimes with my right index finger. I became accustomed to typing with my thumbs while using a querty keyboard on an android. I have used a home row on a computer since age nine, so learning to locate keys with my thumbs was not too hard. I am not very fast, but it works. I have a bluetooth keyboard for longer typing needs. Holly and Ajax -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post
Hanging with Friends
Hello, I have the free version of Hanging with Friends, but I also have the paid version now and would like to use the paid version instead. Is there a way to log out of the free one so that i can use the paid one? I tried to put my user name into the paid one but it tells me that this user name is already in use. Thanks in advance, Charlene -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: A question about Draftpad
hey Kim I think this gentleman is suggesting that maybe after tapping send that at that time it may ask for the email address. - Original Message - From: Rob Harris bobs...@googlemail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 12:16 Subject: Re: A question about Draftpad Let me suggest an experiment: on the basis it might, or even ought to know or be able to find your default email address, put a suitable subject line in that field and see if the ap sends the text correctly anyway. Don't try it with a lengthy or important missive. - Original Message - From: Kimber Gardner kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 6:01 PM Subject: A question about Draftpad Hi All, I recently downloaded a text editing app called Draftpad. One of the functions is the ability to email what you've written to yourself. The problem is when I choose the email option and enter my email address, the text ends up in the subject line of the email rather than in the body. I can't figure out what I'm missing. Can anyone help? Thanks, Kimber On 5/29/12, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com wrote: The app I think you are talking about is not accessible. The only marginally accessible app that will allow you to edit Word documents is Pages. It is only marginally accessible in my experience. Not worth the $9.99 unless you can use it with vision. Richard _ From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 5:53 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Documents 2 Free Text Editors in General Hi, forgive me if I've misspelled the name of this app. It would appear you can edit Word documents. Is that true? I'm looking for something that can synchronize with Dropbox, and while I've found several editors for text format, I want to find something that will work with Doc and DocX since reading by paragraph is smoother with VoiceOver using those file formats. Thanks for any recommendations you can pass along.--Joe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- Kimberly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
