RE: I Strongly Recommend The Plantronics Voyager Edge Bluetooth Single-Ear Headset
Hi Sieghard, To answer your question, Yes, there is a Play/Pause button that allows starting and stopping of streaming audio. In fact, one of the reasons why I decided to purchase a new Bluetooth headset is because my Jabra Extreme 2 lacks such a button. The Play/Pause button is referred to as the Voice button in the Edge user manual and is located on the arm of the boom mike. When the proximity sensors are enabled, merely placing the Edge in your ear will automatically cause streaming to be routed to it while removing it from your ear will automatically send audio streaming back to the iOS device. The same is true when on a call. Take it from me, this is one world-class device. Mark -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2015 9:20 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: I Strongly Recommend The Plantronics Voyager Edge Bluetooth Single-Ear Headset Mark, Is there a Play/Pause button which would allow you to pause and resume playback with apps like Audible, Downcast and so on? I have a Jabra Supreme and like it even though it's not exactly small, but I would never buy another bluetooth earpiece which didn't offer the ability to play/pause what I might be listening to as I am walking around at home or out and about. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2015 2:35 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: I Strongly Recommend The Plantronics Voyager Edge Bluetooth Single-Ear Headset Hello Everyone, After all of the comments regarding the Voyager Legend headset, I decided to purchase a new Bluetooth headset, also. Because of a couple of things I don't like about the Legend, for example the proprietary charging connection, I decided to go with the Voyager Edge. I love this device. It is absolutely the most comfortable and responsive Bluetooth device I've owned, to date. I have owned and used no fewer than 18 Bluetooth headset devices since 2007. The Edge builds on the Legend's outstanding performance but returns to some industry standard protocols, for example, the original charging cable connection. Like the Legend, it does have a hardware on and off button. What I really like about the Edge is that one can disable some of the features of the device, for instance, the auto Answer/Reject prompts. There have been many times when I was talking to someone when a call came in and the headset, not a Plantronics, would automatically interpret my last spoken word as answer. Below I am pasting in a short cNet review of the Edge at the bottom of which you will find the URL to the review, itself. Please note that the review was written almost a year ago. The reason I mention this is that it states that the Edge cannot get 7 hours of talk time, as can the Legend. However, this is no longer true. The unit I just purchased gets over 7 hours of talk time. Also, the Edge now ships with an over-the-ear loop and soft ear-jell tips. In short, I would strongly recommend anyone who is in the market for a high performance blindness-friendly single-ear Bluetooth headset device consider the Voyager Edge. Mark cNet Review: The Good The Plantronics Voyager Edge packs outstanding call quality and noise cancellation. The headset is also light, comfortable to wear, and compact for a boom-style device. The Edge comes with a handy battery case for protection and charging on the go. The Bad The Voyager Edge's ear tips don't form a tight audio seal and take some fiddling to position properly. The Bottom Line The Plantronics Voyager Edge's impressive hands-free call quality and sleek size makes it a smarter buy than the fashionable Jawbone Era. Equipped with support for multiple languages, aggressive noise cancellation and a host of other advanced communication skills, the $129.99 Voyager Edge represents Plantronics' latest stab at a high-tech tool for mobile voice chat. It sits alongside the company's popular Voyager Legend ($99.99), another premium hands-free product. Additionally, the Edge replaces the Discovery 975SE which was crafted to be as sleek as possible without sacrificing call quality. Indeed despite it's compact size, the Edge uses the same impressive audio system as its big brother the Voyager Legend. This includes three discrete microphones and a boom arm to better pick up the words you say. The result is sound transmission that's equal to the Legend and cleaner than its chief competitor, the bite-sized Jawbone Era 2014 ($129). Of course the Edge can't match the Legend's 7-hour talk time or the Era's ultra-discreet de Design Continuing where the 975SE left off, the fresh Voyager Edge has the same distinctive diamond-shaped body. Relatively compact, the Edge sports a long, thin boom, too,
Re: moving apps from the third page of my iPhone to a folder on the second page
I forgot to mention that. you will have to arrow to the page area and then up or down arrow to the page you want. - Original Message - From: John Christie To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2015 8:37 PM Subject: RE: moving apps from the third page of my iPhone to a folder on the second page Hi Robert. I can do the move command but when I attempt to go to the second page using the keystroke to do that, It doesn’t seem to work. Do you know what the problem might be? From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2015 10:15 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: moving apps from the third page of my iPhone to a folder on the second page Unless the apps are already within a folder you will have to move them one at a time. 1. move to the app you wish to move then shift+vo+m to start the move command 2. go to the page and folder you wish that app to reside in and then with quicknav on press the up down arrows at the same time to drop into that folder to move a folder to another page use the move command on the folder, go to the new page, use the move command on top of any folder. to move an app to another page without creating a folder; use the move command, go to the new page, press vo+h - Original Message - From: John Christie To: viphone Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2015 8:01 PM Subject: moving apps from the third page of my iPhone to a folder on the second page Hi. How do I move a group of apps from the third page to a folder on the second page using a Bluetooth keyboard. I am using the Amazon keyboard and an iPhone 5c. Thanks for your help and have a good day. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why? then where does the learning start? -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why? then where does the learning start? -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on
RE: 3 buttons of Voice Dream Writer
Toward the bottom of the screen. If you are using a Bluetooth keyboard, do a VO right arrow to jump to the cursor button, or a single finger right flick if you are using the onscreen keyboard. Richard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Fanus Sent: Sunday, February 8, 2015 9:14 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: 3 buttons of Voice Dream Writer Hello list The help file refers to 3 buttons which one uses to adjust certain values. Where are the buttons on the screen? Regards Fanus -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: moving apps from the third page of my iPhone to a folder on the second page
Hi Robert. Moving the apps worked out fine. Thanks for your help. I really appreciate it. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 8:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: moving apps from the third page of my iPhone to a folder on the second page I forgot to mention that. you will have to arrow to the page area and then up or down arrow to the page you want. - Original Message - From: John Christie mailto:christi...@verizon.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2015 8:37 PM Subject: RE: moving apps from the third page of my iPhone to a folder on the second page Hi Robert. I can do the move command but when I attempt to go to the second page using the keystroke to do that, It doesn’t seem to work. Do you know what the problem might be? From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2015 10:15 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: moving apps from the third page of my iPhone to a folder on the second page Unless the apps are already within a folder you will have to move them one at a time. 1. move to the app you wish to move then shift+vo+m to start the move command 2. go to the page and folder you wish that app to reside in and then with quicknav on press the up down arrows at the same time to drop into that folder to move a folder to another page use the move command on the folder, go to the new page, use the move command on top of any folder. to move an app to another page without creating a folder; use the move command, go to the new page, press vo+h - Original Message - From: John Christie mailto:christi...@verizon.net To: viphone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2015 8:01 PM Subject: moving apps from the third page of my iPhone to a folder on the second page Hi. How do I move a group of apps from the third page to a folder on the second page using a Bluetooth keyboard. I am using the Amazon keyboard and an iPhone 5c. Thanks for your help and have a good day. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why? then where does the learning start? -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why? then where does the learning start? -- The following
FYI when you bring a new computer or iPhone or other electronic device home how to keep it safe
Hi all, I just learned this and thought I would share. When you buy an electronic device if it is cold, bring the device home and take it out of the box. Set it on something that is not metal, and leave it for an hour so that it can come up to room temperature. Once the hour is up it is pretty safe to plug the computer the device in and then charge it. If you charge it before it comes up to room temperature there could be damage caused from condensation or the item being too cold. This can sometimes damage or kill your device. God bless, Wren Langley -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Hearing Aids and iPhone 6+
Hi Tony, that's a definite improvement. How are you finding latency, for example when you quickly flick through your home screen? Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 9/02/2015, at 4:34 am, Tony t...@k5twz.com wrote: The older devices from Phonak would drop the Bluetooth connection if the audio stopped for a couple of seconds. Apparently they got enough complaints, including mine, that the newer ones will stay active for a couple of minutes. Tony From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 9:15 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Hearing Aids and iPhone 6+ Hi Barry, I used a similar Phonak streamer product and rejected it for iPhone listening for the reasons you mention. Most hearing aids will also take a direct audio input cable which gets rid of these issues. As well as better latency and the audio from the iPhone being always on, a direct audio input cable uses much less battery. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org http://mosen.org/ On 8/02/2015, at 5:13 pm, Barry Abbott bpabbo...@gmail.com mailto:bpabbo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. I use the Oticon Ultra Pro Hearing Aids. And the Oticon Streamer remote control device that came as part of the package. It allows me to stream music, a book or Blind Square through my hearing Aids. It does sound somewhat like you are in a room with an echo. But if you are listening to a book or music and mute your hearing Aids microphones it's not bad. It is the open microphones that cause the echo effect I think.You can also quickly push a button to activate Siri and if you hold it in for a second it will dial the last number. What I don't like is that the hearing aids change programs so if an alert comes through you get a series of beeps and the mode switches. This switching of modes with the consequential beeps seems to cut out the Siri tone. The remote connects by low power bluetooth and hangs around the neck. It also has a standard jack for plugging in a patch chord to connect with other devices. It also controls the programs and volume on the Hearing Aids. The key to making sure that you can hear VoiceOver is to have the Audiologists check the music mode. There are two iPhone apps Connect Line used for connecting your Streamer and Oticon Streamer The Streamer app allows me to set the modes as well but I did not know about it when I first got these Hearing Aids. Have a great day. Barry On Feb 7, 2015, at 4:16 PM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org mailto:jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi maricio, I'm presently working on a book that discusses challenges like this. It's complex because there are so many types of hearing aids and technologies one might choose. To give you an example of what is working for me after some upgrades to my hearing aid technology a couple of years ago, you might like to take a look at these two posts on my blog. Now Hear This! Musings of a Blind Hearing Aid wearer http://mosen.org/index.php/now-hear-this-musings-of-a-blind-hearing-aid-wearer/ and a follow-up post: Now Hear This Even Better. A Follow-up http://mosen.org/index.php/now-hear-this-even-better-a-follow-up/ My general comment would be that Bluetooth systems have a lot of promise, but for users who need responsiveness such as when working with a screen reader, one has to be quite careful that the combination chosen doesn't include unacceptable latency. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org http://mosen.org/ On 8/02/2015, at 8:12 am, Mauricio Molina mauriciohmol...@gmail.com mailto:mauriciohmol...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I am attempting to assist an individual who has a profound hearing impairment as well as a visual impairment. Even with hearing aids, I must speak rather loudly to be heard by this individual. This individual is in their mid-eighties, on a limited income, and does not read Braille. I suspect they currently have low-end hearing aids but am not certain. And while I have written to and received suggestions from accessibil...@apple.com mailto:accessibil...@apple.com, I wondered if anyone on this list with a hearing impairment has any suggestions. I would especially like to receive information from anyone who is actually using their recommended solution or knows of someone who is. If high-end hearing aids are recommended, such as those suggested by the Apple folks, I would appreciate which model hearing aid and the cost of acquiring the recommended aids. For all who can assist, I thank you in advance. Mauricio -- The
3 buttons of Voice Dream Writer
Hello list The help file refers to 3 buttons which one uses to adjust certain values. Where are the buttons on the screen? Regards Fanus -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
fetching mail with the iphone
Hey guys, I have a question about fetching mail. My phone doesn't seem to alert me whenever i get mail. I ahve push set to on. However, what i notice, only when i have mail open, and looking at it, that it notifies me. Does this make sense? In other words, i'll send myself an email, and it may ding several minutes later, but just curious if anyone ahs noticed this. Any thoughts? -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: A question about upgrading from the iPhone-4S to the iPhone-6+.
Liz, As someone else posted, I don't think the order really matters. I got a new iPhone 6 last week and had this same issue. I used iTunes to do an encrypted backup of my old iPhone which was an ATT phone to be able to restore it to my new Verizon phone. I powered on the new phone by connecting it to my computer with its cable and immediately pressed the triple click home button to turn VoiceOver on. At that point, I didn't do anything else with respect to activating the phone. I then ran iTunes and restored my encrypted backup and also upgraded to the latest iOS 8.1.3 since the phone came with 8.1.2. After doing this iTunes showed no phone number for my new phone so I had to then go through the rest of the activation steps with the phone and that worked fine. If I had to do it over again, I'd probably go through all the new phone activation steps first because I think at some point it asks if you are setting up a new device or restoring from a backup at which point I would do the restore. But as I said, in the end, it didn't matter since my phone is working great and everything was restored. Good luck. Alan Lemly -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lizand Sammie Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2015 1:28 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: A question about upgrading from the iPhone-4S to the iPhone-6+. In a few days, I will be getting an iPhone-6+. When in the process of upgrading from my 4S to the 6+, do I put my backup on the phone first before ATT activates, or does the phone need to be activated first before I put my backup from iTunes on the new phone? Liz Ulrich and Leader dog sammie Grace Harbor Church Prayer chain coordinator HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ELIZABETH.ULRICH.1 -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Hearing Aids and iPhone 6+
Hi Barry, I used a similar Phonak streamer product and rejected it for iPhone listening for the reasons you mention. Most hearing aids will also take a direct audio input cable which gets rid of these issues. As well as better latency and the audio from the iPhone being always on, a direct audio input cable uses much less battery. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 8/02/2015, at 5:13 pm, Barry Abbott bpabbo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. I use the Oticon Ultra Pro Hearing Aids. And the Oticon Streamer remote control device that came as part of the package. It allows me to stream music, a book or Blind Square through my hearing Aids. It does sound somewhat like you are in a room with an echo. But if you are listening to a book or music and mute your hearing Aids microphones it's not bad. It is the open microphones that cause the echo effect I think.You can also quickly push a button to activate Siri and if you hold it in for a second it will dial the last number. What I don't like is that the hearing aids change programs so if an alert comes through you get a series of beeps and the mode switches. This switching of modes with the consequential beeps seems to cut out the Siri tone. The remote connects by low power bluetooth and hangs around the neck. It also has a standard jack for plugging in a patch chord to connect with other devices. It also controls the programs and volume on the Hearing Aids. The key to making sure that you can hear VoiceOver is to have the Audiologists check the music mode. There are two iPhone apps Connect Line used for connecting your Streamer and Oticon Streamer The Streamer app allows me to set the modes as well but I did not know about it when I first got these Hearing Aids. Have a great day. Barry On Feb 7, 2015, at 4:16 PM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org mailto:jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi maricio, I'm presently working on a book that discusses challenges like this. It's complex because there are so many types of hearing aids and technologies one might choose. To give you an example of what is working for me after some upgrades to my hearing aid technology a couple of years ago, you might like to take a look at these two posts on my blog. Now Hear This! Musings of a Blind Hearing Aid wearer http://mosen.org/index.php/now-hear-this-musings-of-a-blind-hearing-aid-wearer/ and a follow-up post: Now Hear This Even Better. A Follow-up http://mosen.org/index.php/now-hear-this-even-better-a-follow-up/ My general comment would be that Bluetooth systems have a lot of promise, but for users who need responsiveness such as when working with a screen reader, one has to be quite careful that the combination chosen doesn't include unacceptable latency. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org http://mosen.org/ On 8/02/2015, at 8:12 am, Mauricio Molina mauriciohmol...@gmail.com mailto:mauriciohmol...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I am attempting to assist an individual who has a profound hearing impairment as well as a visual impairment. Even with hearing aids, I must speak rather loudly to be heard by this individual. This individual is in their mid-eighties, on a limited income, and does not read Braille. I suspect they currently have low-end hearing aids but am not certain. And while I have written to and received suggestions from accessibil...@apple.com mailto:accessibil...@apple.com, I wondered if anyone on this list with a hearing impairment has any suggestions. I would especially like to receive information from anyone who is actually using their recommended solution or knows of someone who is. If high-end hearing aids are recommended, such as those suggested by the Apple folks, I would appreciate which model hearing aid and the cost of acquiring the recommended aids. For all who can assist, I thank you in advance. Mauricio -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at
RE: Hearing Aids and iPhone 6+
The older devices from Phonak would drop the Bluetooth connection if the audio stopped for a couple of seconds. Apparently they got enough complaints, including mine, that the newer ones will stay active for a couple of minutes. Tony From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 9:15 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Hearing Aids and iPhone 6+ Hi Barry, I used a similar Phonak streamer product and rejected it for iPhone listening for the reasons you mention. Most hearing aids will also take a direct audio input cable which gets rid of these issues. As well as better latency and the audio from the iPhone being always on, a direct audio input cable uses much less battery. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 8/02/2015, at 5:13 pm, Barry Abbott bpabbo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. I use the Oticon Ultra Pro Hearing Aids. And the Oticon Streamer remote control device that came as part of the package. It allows me to stream music, a book or Blind Square through my hearing Aids. It does sound somewhat like you are in a room with an echo. But if you are listening to a book or music and mute your hearing Aids microphones it's not bad. It is the open microphones that cause the echo effect I think.You can also quickly push a button to activate Siri and if you hold it in for a second it will dial the last number. What I don't like is that the hearing aids change programs so if an alert comes through you get a series of beeps and the mode switches. This switching of modes with the consequential beeps seems to cut out the Siri tone. The remote connects by low power bluetooth and hangs around the neck. It also has a standard jack for plugging in a patch chord to connect with other devices. It also controls the programs and volume on the Hearing Aids. The key to making sure that you can hear VoiceOver is to have the Audiologists check the music mode. There are two iPhone apps Connect Line used for connecting your Streamer and Oticon Streamer The Streamer app allows me to set the modes as well but I did not know about it when I first got these Hearing Aids. Have a great day. Barry On Feb 7, 2015, at 4:16 PM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi maricio, I'm presently working on a book that discusses challenges like this. It's complex because there are so many types of hearing aids and technologies one might choose. To give you an example of what is working for me after some upgrades to my hearing aid technology a couple of years ago, you might like to take a look at these two posts on my blog. Now Hear This! Musings of a Blind Hearing Aid wearer http://mosen.org/index.php/now-hear-this-musings-of-a-blind-hearing-aid-wearer/ and a follow-up post: Now Hear This Even Better. A Follow-up http://mosen.org/index.php/now-hear-this-even-better-a-follow-up/ My general comment would be that Bluetooth systems have a lot of promise, but for users who need responsiveness such as when working with a screen reader, one has to be quite careful that the combination chosen doesn't include unacceptable latency. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org http://mosen.org/ On 8/02/2015, at 8:12 am, Mauricio Molina mauriciohmol...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I am attempting to assist an individual who has a profound hearing impairment as well as a visual impairment. Even with hearing aids, I must speak rather loudly to be heard by this individual. This individual is in their mid-eighties, on a limited income, and does not read Braille. I suspect they currently have low-end hearing aids but am not certain. And while I have written to and received suggestions from mailto:accessibil...@apple.com accessibil...@apple.com, I wondered if anyone on this list with a hearing impairment has any suggestions. I would especially like to receive information from anyone who is actually using their recommended solution or knows of someone who is. If high-end hearing aids are recommended, such as those suggested by the Apple folks, I would appreciate which model hearing aid and the cost of acquiring the recommended aids. For all who can assist, I thank you in advance. Mauricio -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message
Re: iPhone accessibility tweets
Hi Flor, not really. Hashtags are user driven. Anyone can start/invent one just by putting one in a tweet. So they tend to just have a life of their own. Best thing is to look at people you follow to see who they follow, that way you can fine-tune your Twitter stream to get the kind of content you want. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 8/02/2015, at 3:02 pm, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote: Is there a place or repository where one cahn check out popular hashtags, and/or hashtags in current usage? From: Jonathan Mosen mailto:jmo...@mosen.org Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 5:51 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone accessibility tweets Hi Tracy, a lot of people simply use #accessibility. Some use #A11Y, I personally strongly advise against doing this, as those outside the accessibility industry have no clue what it means, so it's likely to confuse, rather than help, an app developer. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org http://mosen.org/ On 6/02/2015, at 5:31 am, Traci Duncan our4p...@gmail.com mailto:our4p...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Does anyone take the route of tweeting app developers about accessibility? This seems like an instant option. Something I’m curious about is there any well known accessibility hashtags? I want to tweet Ultimate Ears about their latest app update. We can now power on our UE Booms via the app, however the power button in the app is not visible to VoiceOver. So, do you guys use any hashtags consistently? Hashtag: VoiceOver, AppleAccessibility, etc.? Thank you, Traci A little side note, anyone who owns the UE Boom, it can now be updated wirelessly. Not sure if that will be accessible though. Lol! -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at
Re: FYI when you bring a new computer or iPhone or other electronic device home how to keep it safe
Hi, For what it's worth there is actually some merrit behind this advice. Remember that changes in temperature cause things to expand / contract. If we look at a chip that's been soldered onto a PCB for example, leaving the device containing said PCB in a cold environment for an extended period of time may cause the PCB to become slightly deformed, which may result in one of the legs of the chip not making an overly good connection, in turn causing the device to malfunction. Cheers, Ben. On 2/8/15, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Where did you get this information from? --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Wren Langley wrenlang...@sbcglobal.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 10:11 AM Subject: FYI when you bring a new computer or iPhone or other electronic device home how to keep it safe Hi all, I just learned this and thought I would share. When you buy an electronic device if it is cold, bring the device home and take it out of the box. Set it on something that is not metal, and leave it for an hour so that it can come up to room temperature. Once the hour is up it is pretty safe to plug the computer the device in and then charge it. If you charge it before it comes up to room temperature there could be damage caused from condensation or the item being too cold. This can sometimes damage or kill your device. God bless, Wren Langley -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: FYI when you bring a new computer or iPhone or other electronic device home how to keep it safe
While this is generally true, I once had a hard drive that wouldn't work until it had been the freezer for an hour. Needless to say I copied the data from it as soon as I could. Had to freeze it a few times to get it all. Tony -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 4:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: FYI when you bring a new computer or iPhone or other electronic device home how to keep it safe Hi, For what it's worth there is actually some merrit behind this advice. Remember that changes in temperature cause things to expand / contract. If we look at a chip that's been soldered onto a PCB for example, leaving the device containing said PCB in a cold environment for an extended period of time may cause the PCB to become slightly deformed, which may result in one of the legs of the chip not making an overly good connection, in turn causing the device to malfunction. Cheers, Ben. On 2/8/15, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Where did you get this information from? --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Wren Langley wrenlang...@sbcglobal.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 10:11 AM Subject: FYI when you bring a new computer or iPhone or other electronic device home how to keep it safe Hi all, I just learned this and thought I would share. When you buy an electronic device if it is cold, bring the device home and take it out of the box. Set it on something that is not metal, and leave it for an hour so that it can come up to room temperature. Once the hour is up it is pretty safe to plug the computer the device in and then charge it. If you charge it before it comes up to room temperature there could be damage caused from condensation or the item being too cold. This can sometimes damage or kill your device. God bless, Wren Langley -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators
RE: FYI when you bring a new computer or iPhone or other electronic device home how to keep it safe
I gotta ask. How did you figure out it had to be in the freezer, and for one hour, at that?! -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tony Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 4:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: FYI when you bring a new computer or iPhone or other electronic device home how to keep it safe While this is generally true, I once had a hard drive that wouldn't work until it had been the freezer for an hour. Needless to say I copied the data from it as soon as I could. Had to freeze it a few times to get it all. Tony -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 4:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: FYI when you bring a new computer or iPhone or other electronic device home how to keep it safe Hi, For what it's worth there is actually some merrit behind this advice. Remember that changes in temperature cause things to expand / contract. If we look at a chip that's been soldered onto a PCB for example, leaving the device containing said PCB in a cold environment for an extended period of time may cause the PCB to become slightly deformed, which may result in one of the legs of the chip not making an overly good connection, in turn causing the device to malfunction. Cheers, Ben. On 2/8/15, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Where did you get this information from? --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Wren Langley wrenlang...@sbcglobal.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 10:11 AM Subject: FYI when you bring a new computer or iPhone or other electronic device home how to keep it safe Hi all, I just learned this and thought I would share. When you buy an electronic device if it is cold, bring the device home and take it out of the box. Set it on something that is not metal, and leave it for an hour so that it can come up to room temperature. Once the hour is up it is pretty safe to plug the computer the device in and then charge it. If you charge it before it comes up to room temperature there could be damage caused from condensation or the item being too cold. This can sometimes damage or kill your device. God bless, Wren Langley -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at
Re: iPhone 6 user's guide in text format
It may offer headings and other features that a text file does not, but it is not as accessible to all. Adobe is difficult to use with a screen reader, or needs a lot of modification to be usable. With a straightforward, no frills text file, anyone can read it. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2015 11:12 PM Subject: RE: iPhone 6 user's guide in text format I beg to differ here. A properly made PDF file is perfectly accessible and offers features like headings, links and so on which you don't get with a text file. Also, you can't accidently change stuff in it. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of RobH. Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2015 9:27 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone 6 user's guide in text format Pity we couldn't put this to Apple accessibility, all guides and manuals in .txt, the most accessible format there is. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com To: visually impaired phone group viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2015 4:17 PM Subject: iPhone 6 user's guide in text format AS .pdf files are, quite often, messy to read through, does anyone have, or know where I can get, a user's guide for the iPhone 6 in text format? Thanks. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For
Re: FYI when you bring a new computer or iPhone or other electronic device home how to keep it safe
Where did you get this information from? --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Wren Langley wrenlang...@sbcglobal.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 10:11 AM Subject: FYI when you bring a new computer or iPhone or other electronic device home how to keep it safe Hi all, I just learned this and thought I would share. When you buy an electronic device if it is cold, bring the device home and take it out of the box. Set it on something that is not metal, and leave it for an hour so that it can come up to room temperature. Once the hour is up it is pretty safe to plug the computer the device in and then charge it. If you charge it before it comes up to room temperature there could be damage caused from condensation or the item being too cold. This can sometimes damage or kill your device. God bless, Wren Langley -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Hearing Aids and iPhone 6+
My 4s is continuously connected to the Phonex ComPilot and seems pretty responsive. I don’t know if the small latency is the iPhone or the Bluetooth link. Using the Phonak TV block with my computer it seems as responsive as listening to the computer speakers directly. Tony From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 10:59 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Hearing Aids and iPhone 6+ Hi Tony, that's a definite improvement. How are you finding latency, for example when you quickly flick through your home screen? Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 9/02/2015, at 4:34 am, Tony t...@k5twz.com wrote: The older devices from Phonak would drop the Bluetooth connection if the audio stopped for a couple of seconds. Apparently they got enough complaints, including mine, that the newer ones will stay active for a couple of minutes. Tony From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com[ mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 9:15 AM To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Hearing Aids and iPhone 6+ Hi Barry, I used a similar Phonak streamer product and rejected it for iPhone listening for the reasons you mention. Most hearing aids will also take a direct audio input cable which gets rid of these issues. As well as better latency and the audio from the iPhone being always on, a direct audio input cable uses much less battery. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://mosen.org/ http://Mosen.org On 8/02/2015, at 5:13 pm, Barry Abbott mailto:bpabbo...@gmail.com bpabbo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. I use the Oticon Ultra Pro Hearing Aids. And the Oticon Streamer remote control device that came as part of the package. It allows me to stream music, a book or Blind Square through my hearing Aids. It does sound somewhat like you are in a room with an echo. But if you are listening to a book or music and mute your hearing Aids microphones it's not bad. It is the open microphones that cause the echo effect I think.You can also quickly push a button to activate Siri and if you hold it in for a second it will dial the last number. What I don't like is that the hearing aids change programs so if an alert comes through you get a series of beeps and the mode switches. This switching of modes with the consequential beeps seems to cut out the Siri tone. The remote connects by low power bluetooth and hangs around the neck. It also has a standard jack for plugging in a patch chord to connect with other devices. It also controls the programs and volume on the Hearing Aids. The key to making sure that you can hear VoiceOver is to have the Audiologists check the music mode. There are two iPhone apps Connect Line used for connecting your Streamer and Oticon Streamer The Streamer app allows me to set the modes as well but I did not know about it when I first got these Hearing Aids. Have a great day. Barry On Feb 7, 2015, at 4:16 PM, Jonathan Mosen mailto:jmo...@mosen.org jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi maricio, I'm presently working on a book that discusses challenges like this. It's complex because there are so many types of hearing aids and technologies one might choose. To give you an example of what is working for me after some upgrades to my hearing aid technology a couple of years ago, you might like to take a look at these two posts on my blog. http://mosen.org/index.php/now-hear-this-musings-of-a-blind-hearing-aid-wearer/ Now Hear This! Musings of a Blind Hearing Aid wearer and a follow-up post: http://mosen.org/index.php/now-hear-this-even-better-a-follow-up/ Now Hear This Even Better. A Follow-up My general comment would be that Bluetooth systems have a lot of promise, but for users who need responsiveness such as when working with a screen reader, one has to be quite careful that the combination chosen doesn't include unacceptable latency. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://mosen.org/ http://Mosen.org On 8/02/2015, at 8:12 am, Mauricio Molina mailto:mauriciohmol...@gmail.com mauriciohmol...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I am attempting to assist an individual who has a profound hearing impairment as well as a visual impairment. Even with hearing aids, I must speak rather loudly to be heard by this individual. This individual is in their mid-eighties, on a limited income, and does not read Braille. I suspect they currently have low-end hearing aids but am not certain. And while I have written to and received suggestions from mailto:accessibil...@apple.com accessibil...@apple.com, I
Re: 3 buttons of Voice Dream Writer
When first you use the app, you're in the Help file and you don't see these buttons (or I didn't) until I'd located a button at the top left, which I think says Add so you can work your way through and make a file of your own. Once you have a file there editing, you should find these three buttons by flicking right or, placing your finger at the far right of the screen, near the top, then flicking a couple of times. Hope this helps. Carol P - Original Message - From: Fanus buys.fa...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com CC: Date: Sunday, 8 February 2015 5.13 pm Subject: 3 buttons of Voice Dream Writer Hello list The help file refers to 3 buttons which one uses to adjust certain values. Where are the buttons on the screen? Regards Fanus -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: fetching mail with the iphone
That sounds like you have the schedule set to manual even though you have push set to on. Richard Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it. Jane Wagner, from In Search of Intelligent Life in the Universe Sent from my iPhone 5S On Feb 8, 2015, at 11:11 AM, Jed Barton jedbar...@gmail.com wrote: Hey guys, I have a question about fetching mail. My phone doesn't seem to alert me whenever i get mail. I ahve push set to on. However, what i notice, only when i have mail open, and looking at it, that it notifies me. Does this make sense? In other words, i'll send myself an email, and it may ding several minutes later, but just curious if anyone ahs noticed this. Any thoughts? -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: fetching mail with the iphone
i'm a litle confused. when i am in mail, it says push on, then i swipe to my jedbarton account and it says jedbarton fetch button. Then when i swipe to the icloud it says push button. What am i missing here. On 2/8/2015 2:58 PM, Richard Turner wrote: That sounds like you have the schedule set to manual even though you have push set to on. Richard Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it. Jane Wagner, from In Search of Intelligent Life in the Universe Sent from my iPhone 5S On Feb 8, 2015, at 11:11 AM, Jed Barton jedbar...@gmail.com mailto:jedbar...@gmail.com wrote: Hey guys, I have a question about fetching mail. My phone doesn't seem to alert me whenever i get mail. I ahve push set to on. However, what i notice, only when i have mail open, and looking at it, that it notifies me. Does this make sense? In other words, i'll send myself an email, and it may ding several minutes later, but just curious if anyone ahs noticed this. Any thoughts? -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: 3 buttons of Voice Dream Writer
Very strange, they sometimes appear to me as if they're at the top but, hey, you're right, they're more in the middle, or just a bit further down. Sorry if my last explanation was a little misleading. Carol P - Original Message - From: Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com CC: Date: Sunday, 8 February 2015 5.49 pm Subject: RE: 3 buttons of Voice Dream Writer Toward the bottom of the screen. If you are using a Bluetooth keyboard, do a VO right arrow to jump to the cursor button, or a single finger right flick if you are using the onscreen keyboard. Richard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Fanus Sent: Sunday, February 8, 2015 9.14 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: 3 buttons of Voice Dream Writer Hello list The help file refers to 3 buttons which one uses to adjust certain values. Where are the buttons on the screen? Regards Fanus -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: fetching mail with the iphone
I thought push doesn’t work with gmail. You have to set a schedule to fetch every 15 minutes or something like that. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 11:59 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: fetching mail with the iphone That sounds like you have the schedule set to manual even though you have push set to on. Richard Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it. Jane Wagner, from In Search of Intelligent Life in the Universe Sent from my iPhone 5S On Feb 8, 2015, at 11:11 AM, Jed Barton jedbar...@gmail.com mailto:jedbar...@gmail.com wrote: Hey guys, I have a question about fetching mail. My phone doesn't seem to alert me whenever i get mail. I ahve push set to on. However, what i notice, only when i have mail open, and looking at it, that it notifies me. Does this make sense? In other words, i'll send myself an email, and it may ding several minutes later, but just curious if anyone ahs noticed this. Any thoughts? -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: fetching mail with the iphone
Not all email providers support push. Where they do not, then your fetch settings apply. So it could be you're using an email provider that doesn't support push, and your fetch settings are set to manual rather than a specific interval. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 9/02/2015, at 9:14 am, Jed Barton jedbar...@gmail.com wrote: i'm a litle confused. when i am in mail, it says push on, then i swipe to my jedbarton account and it says jedbarton fetch button. Then when i swipe to the icloud it says push button. What am i missing here. On 2/8/2015 2:58 PM, Richard Turner wrote: That sounds like you have the schedule set to manual even though you have push set to on. Richard Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it. Jane Wagner, from In Search of Intelligent Life in the Universe Sent from my iPhone 5S On Feb 8, 2015, at 11:11 AM, Jed Barton jedbar...@gmail.com mailto:jedbar...@gmail.com wrote: Hey guys, I have a question about fetching mail. My phone doesn't seem to alert me whenever i get mail. I ahve push set to on. However, what i notice, only when i have mail open, and looking at it, that it notifies me. Does this make sense? In other words, i'll send myself an email, and it may ding several minutes later, but just curious if anyone ahs noticed this. Any thoughts? -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at
Re: fetching mail with the iphone
ah, that's it, yea it was set to every hour, so this makes sense now. I just changed it to every 15 minutes. On 2/8/2015 5:13 PM, Jonathan Mosen wrote: Not all email providers support push. Where they do not, then your fetch settings apply. So it could be you're using an email provider that doesn't support push, and your fetch settings are set to manual rather than a specific interval. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 9/02/2015, at 9:14 am, Jed Barton jedbar...@gmail.com mailto:jedbar...@gmail.com wrote: i'm a litle confused. when i am in mail, it says push on, then i swipe to my jedbarton account and it says jedbarton fetch button. Then when i swipe to the icloud it says push button. What am i missing here. On 2/8/2015 2:58 PM, Richard Turner wrote: That sounds like you have the schedule set to manual even though you have push set to on. Richard Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it. Jane Wagner, from In Search of Intelligent Life in the Universe Sent from my iPhone 5S On Feb 8, 2015, at 11:11 AM, Jed Barton jedbar...@gmail.com mailto:jedbar...@gmail.com mailto:jedbar...@gmail.com wrote: Hey guys, I have a question about fetching mail. My phone doesn't seem to alert me whenever i get mail. I ahve push set to on. However, what i notice, only when i have mail open, and looking at it, that it notifies me. Does this make sense? In other words, i'll send myself an email, and it may ding several minutes later, but just curious if anyone ahs noticed this. Any thoughts? -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at
RE: fetching mail with the iphone
This is why I use the separate Gmail app for the push notifications and use the native mail app for actually dealing with emails. I would assume that push would work with the new Outlook app, but haven’t played with it to say. Maybe someone else whose set their gmail account with the Outlook app can weigh in. I do know that exchange with the native mail app works fine. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 2:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: fetching mail with the iphone I thought push doesn’t work with gmail. You have to set a schedule to fetch every 15 minutes or something like that. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 11:59 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: fetching mail with the iphone That sounds like you have the schedule set to manual even though you have push set to on. Richard Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it. Jane Wagner, from In Search of Intelligent Life in the Universe Sent from my iPhone 5S On Feb 8, 2015, at 11:11 AM, Jed Barton jedbar...@gmail.com wrote: Hey guys, I have a question about fetching mail. My phone doesn't seem to alert me whenever i get mail. I ahve push set to on. However, what i notice, only when i have mail open, and looking at it, that it notifies me. Does this make sense? In other words, i'll send myself an email, and it may ding several minutes later, but just curious if anyone ahs noticed this. Any thoughts? -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at
RE: FYI when you bring a new computer or iPhone or other electronic device home how to keep it safe
This was about 15 years ago and I had heard it from several sources, Kim Komando for one. I tried half an hour with no success then tried an hour. The drive was in a ziploc bag to limit condensation. I had a fan on it when connected for the same reason. I also had a system in my garage that got very cold at times. It took up to two hours to boot when the temp was down. I tried to leave it on all the time. Tony -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 4:08 PM To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' Subject: RE: FYI when you bring a new computer or iPhone or other electronic device home how to keep it safe I gotta ask. How did you figure out it had to be in the freezer, and for one hour, at that?! -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tony Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 4:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: FYI when you bring a new computer or iPhone or other electronic device home how to keep it safe While this is generally true, I once had a hard drive that wouldn't work until it had been the freezer for an hour. Needless to say I copied the data from it as soon as I could. Had to freeze it a few times to get it all. Tony -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 4:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: FYI when you bring a new computer or iPhone or other electronic device home how to keep it safe Hi, For what it's worth there is actually some merrit behind this advice. Remember that changes in temperature cause things to expand / contract. If we look at a chip that's been soldered onto a PCB for example, leaving the device containing said PCB in a cold environment for an extended period of time may cause the PCB to become slightly deformed, which may result in one of the legs of the chip not making an overly good connection, in turn causing the device to malfunction. Cheers, Ben. On 2/8/15, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Where did you get this information from? --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Wren Langley wrenlang...@sbcglobal.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 10:11 AM Subject: FYI when you bring a new computer or iPhone or other electronic device home how to keep it safe Hi all, I just learned this and thought I would share. When you buy an electronic device if it is cold, bring the device home and take it out of the box. Set it on something that is not metal, and leave it for an hour so that it can come up to room temperature. Once the hour is up it is pretty safe to plug the computer the device in and then charge it. If you charge it before it comes up to room temperature there could be damage caused from condensation or the item being too cold. This can sometimes damage or kill your device. God bless, Wren Langley -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is
Sending Mail When Away From Home
Hi Everyone When I'm away from my wireless network I can't send email from my 5S. I don't have any problem receiving mail, Just can't send. I've looked everywhere I can think of in settings but can't see where to fix this. My primary account is my iinet account. Could someone tell me what I need to do? thanks in anticipation. Regards jenny Jennifer dawson Phone: 08 94961024 Email: jjdaw...@iinet.net.au -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: how to copy a phone number
If the number is selected with the pinch gesture, the edit menu will appear in the rotor. If the number is the last spoken phraise by VoiceOver, quadruple three-finger tap will cause VO to copy it to the clipboard. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 9 Feb 2015, at 13:31, Scott Berry sb356...@gmail.com wrote: Hello there, In the rotor there used to be an Edit Menu but I am unable to find that. How do you copy a phone now for putting in to the contacts? -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Sending Mail When Away From Home
You may need a different port number for the SMTP server. Call the tech support at IINET. Richard Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it. Jane Wagner, from In Search of Intelligent Life in the Universe Sent from my iPhone 5S On Feb 8, 2015, at 6:54 PM, Jenny Dawson jjdaw...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi Everyone When I'm away from my wireless network I can't send email from my 5S. I don't have any problem receiving mail, Just can't send. I've looked everywhere I can think of in settings but can't see where to fix this. My primary account is my iinet account. Could someone tell me what I need to do? thanks in anticipation. Regards jenny Jennifer dawson Phone: 08 94961024 Email: jjdaw...@iinet.net.au -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: how to copy a phone number
If it shows up like a link, double-tap and hold on it and you should get an option to add to contacts. Hth, Ioana Sent from my iPhone On Feb 8, 2015, at 7:31 PM, Scott Berry sb356...@gmail.com wrote: Hello there, In the rotor there used to be an Edit Menu but I am unable to find that. How do you copy a phone now for putting in to the contacts? -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: FYI when you bring a new computer or iPhone or other electronic device home how to keep it safe
Rather than googling, I'd rather get the source from the person who sent the information. It's always better to get information right from the horse's mouth rather than from a stable worker who heard it from the owner of the horse who heard it from, well, you get the idea. Thanks. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Wren Langley wrenlang...@sbcglobal.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 7:43 PM Subject: Re: FYI when you bring a new computer or iPhone or other electronic device home how to keep it safe Hi, you can Google it and find out all about it. God bless, Wren Langley Sent from my iPhone On Feb 8, 2015, at 4:01 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose b...@benmr.com wrote: Hi, For what it's worth there is actually some merrit behind this advice. Remember that changes in temperature cause things to expand / contract. If we look at a chip that's been soldered onto a PCB for example, leaving the device containing said PCB in a cold environment for an extended period of time may cause the PCB to become slightly deformed, which may result in one of the legs of the chip not making an overly good connection, in turn causing the device to malfunction. Cheers, Ben. On 2/8/15, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Where did you get this information from? --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Wren Langley wrenlang...@sbcglobal.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 10:11 AM Subject: FYI when you bring a new computer or iPhone or other electronic device home how to keep it safe Hi all, I just learned this and thought I would share. When you buy an electronic device if it is cold, bring the device home and take it out of the box. Set it on something that is not metal, and leave it for an hour so that it can come up to room temperature. Once the hour is up it is pretty safe to plug the computer the device in and then charge it. If you charge it before it comes up to room temperature there could be damage caused from condensation or the item being too cold. This can sometimes damage or kill your device. God bless, Wren Langley -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list.
how to copy a phone number
Hello there, In the rotor there used to be an Edit Menu but I am unable to find that. How do you copy a phone now for putting in to the contacts? -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
question about roku remote app
Dear aall. There are multiple apps for using your iphone as remote control for roku player. Can someone recommend an accessible roku app? I have tried the official roku app, it does not make roku accessible at all. For those who don't know, roku is a streaming device like apple tv, but it has no built in tts or accessibility feature like apple tv. Thanks for any suggestion. TaraPrakash Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: FYI when you bring a new computer or iPhone or other electronic device home how to keep it safe
I don't understand this post. Googling tends to get you closer to the source, not further away from it. By way of example, how many posts have we seen on the list lately claiming that KNFB Reader Technology doesn't support the 4S, which is not the case, and is easily checked by Googling. Googling gets you closer to the source whereas hearsay on the list tends to get you further away from it. I'm not saying we shouldn't be posting questions and answers to the list, there are things you'll only find out by exchanging information on a list like this, but I think people our missing out on a great resource if they don't use Google. On 02/08/2015 09:39 PM, Charles Rivard wrote: Rather than googling, I'd rather get the source from the person who sent the information. It's always better to get information right from the horse's mouth rather than from a stable worker who heard it from the owner of the horse who heard it from, well, you get the idea. Thanks. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Wren Langley wrenlang...@sbcglobal.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 7:43 PM Subject: Re: FYI when you bring a new computer or iPhone or other electronic device home how to keep it safe Hi, you can Google it and find out all about it. God bless, Wren Langley Sent from my iPhone On Feb 8, 2015, at 4:01 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose b...@benmr.com wrote: Hi, For what it's worth there is actually some merrit behind this advice. Remember that changes in temperature cause things to expand / contract. If we look at a chip that's been soldered onto a PCB for example, leaving the device containing said PCB in a cold environment for an extended period of time may cause the PCB to become slightly deformed, which may result in one of the legs of the chip not making an overly good connection, in turn causing the device to malfunction. Cheers, Ben. On 2/8/15, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Where did you get this information from? --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Wren Langley wrenlang...@sbcglobal.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 10:11 AM Subject: FYI when you bring a new computer or iPhone or other electronic device home how to keep it safe Hi all, I just learned this and thought I would share. When you buy an electronic device if it is cold, bring the device home and take it out of the box. Set it on something that is not metal, and leave it for an hour so that it can come up to room temperature. Once the hour is up it is pretty safe to plug the computer the device in and then charge it. If you charge it before it comes up to room temperature there could be damage caused from condensation or the item being too cold. This can sometimes damage or kill your device. God bless, Wren Langley -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please
Re: FYI when you bring a new computer or iPhone or other electronic device home how to keep it safe
You can Google for info, but to be sure of accuracy, as in the case of the KNFB reader, the manufacturer is the best source. They, if anyone knows, should. So I ask for someone's source rather than looking through Google, where you may get several sources, some will be correct and others will be inaccurate. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 9:55 PM Subject: Re: FYI when you bring a new computer or iPhone or other electronic device home how to keep it safe I don't understand this post. Googling tends to get you closer to the source, not further away from it. By way of example, how many posts have we seen on the list lately claiming that KNFB Reader Technology doesn't support the 4S, which is not the case, and is easily checked by Googling. Googling gets you closer to the source whereas hearsay on the list tends to get you further away from it. I'm not saying we shouldn't be posting questions and answers to the list, there are things you'll only find out by exchanging information on a list like this, but I think people our missing out on a great resource if they don't use Google. On 02/08/2015 09:39 PM, Charles Rivard wrote: Rather than googling, I'd rather get the source from the person who sent the information. It's always better to get information right from the horse's mouth rather than from a stable worker who heard it from the owner of the horse who heard it from, well, you get the idea. Thanks. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Wren Langley wrenlang...@sbcglobal.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 7:43 PM Subject: Re: FYI when you bring a new computer or iPhone or other electronic device home how to keep it safe Hi, you can Google it and find out all about it. God bless, Wren Langley Sent from my iPhone On Feb 8, 2015, at 4:01 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose b...@benmr.com wrote: Hi, For what it's worth there is actually some merrit behind this advice. Remember that changes in temperature cause things to expand / contract. If we look at a chip that's been soldered onto a PCB for example, leaving the device containing said PCB in a cold environment for an extended period of time may cause the PCB to become slightly deformed, which may result in one of the legs of the chip not making an overly good connection, in turn causing the device to malfunction. Cheers, Ben. On 2/8/15, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Where did you get this information from? --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Wren Langley wrenlang...@sbcglobal.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 10:11 AM Subject: FYI when you bring a new computer or iPhone or other electronic device home how to keep it safe Hi all, I just learned this and thought I would share. When you buy an electronic device if it is cold, bring the device home and take it out of the box. Set it on something that is not metal, and leave it for an hour so that it can come up to room temperature. Once the hour is up it is pretty safe to plug the computer the device in and then charge it. If you charge it before it comes up to room temperature there could be damage caused from condensation or the item being too cold. This can sometimes damage or kill your device. God bless, Wren Langley -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at
Re: FYI when you bring a new computer or iPhone or other electronic device home how to keep it safe
IMHO, you should use multiple sources. For example, you can google and then use common sense to pluck out the accurate information. Googling on KNFB Reader and the iPhone 4S brings up sources like the KNFB Reader home page and the entry in the App Store, which you should obviously trust. Links to posts on other lists, blog articles, tweats and so on should be taken with a grain of salt. Asking people for their source of information is obviously OK, and in this case, I'm not sure the response to Google it was a very valuable response, but if I recall, the person said there source was that they heard about it from multiple sources, so again, you're back to Googling, if you really want more information on the topic. On 02/08/2015 10:42 PM, Charles Rivard wrote: You can Google for info, but to be sure of accuracy, as in the case of the KNFB reader, the manufacturer is the best source. They, if anyone knows, should. So I ask for someone's source rather than looking through Google, where you may get several sources, some will be correct and others will be inaccurate. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 9:55 PM Subject: Re: FYI when you bring a new computer or iPhone or other electronic device home how to keep it safe I don't understand this post. Googling tends to get you closer to the source, not further away from it. By way of example, how many posts have we seen on the list lately claiming that KNFB Reader Technology doesn't support the 4S, which is not the case, and is easily checked by Googling. Googling gets you closer to the source whereas hearsay on the list tends to get you further away from it. I'm not saying we shouldn't be posting questions and answers to the list, there are things you'll only find out by exchanging information on a list like this, but I think people our missing out on a great resource if they don't use Google. On 02/08/2015 09:39 PM, Charles Rivard wrote: Rather than googling, I'd rather get the source from the person who sent the information. It's always better to get information right from the horse's mouth rather than from a stable worker who heard it from the owner of the horse who heard it from, well, you get the idea. Thanks. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Wren Langley wrenlang...@sbcglobal.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 7:43 PM Subject: Re: FYI when you bring a new computer or iPhone or other electronic device home how to keep it safe Hi, you can Google it and find out all about it. God bless, Wren Langley Sent from my iPhone On Feb 8, 2015, at 4:01 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose b...@benmr.com wrote: Hi, For what it's worth there is actually some merrit behind this advice. Remember that changes in temperature cause things to expand / contract. If we look at a chip that's been soldered onto a PCB for example, leaving the device containing said PCB in a cold environment for an extended period of time may cause the PCB to become slightly deformed, which may result in one of the legs of the chip not making an overly good connection, in turn causing the device to malfunction. Cheers, Ben. On 2/8/15, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Where did you get this information from? --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Wren Langley wrenlang...@sbcglobal.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 10:11 AM Subject: FYI when you bring a new computer or iPhone or other electronic device home how to keep it safe Hi all, I just learned this and thought I would share. When you buy an electronic device if it is cold, bring the device home and take it out of the box. Set it on something that is not metal, and leave it for an hour so that it can come up to room temperature. Once the hour is up it is pretty safe to plug the computer the device in and then charge it. If you charge it before it comes up to room temperature there could be damage caused from condensation or the item being too cold. This can sometimes damage or kill your device. God bless, Wren Langley -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
Re: FYI when you bring a new computer or iPhone or other electronic device home how to keep it safe
I agree. But saying that you heard something from various sources is how rumors get started, and the best way to prevent the spreading of misinformation, whether intentional or not, and I'm sure that it was not in this case, is to get the source from which he got it. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 10:53 PM Subject: Re: FYI when you bring a new computer or iPhone or other electronic device home how to keep it safe IMHO, you should use multiple sources. For example, you can google and then use common sense to pluck out the accurate information. Googling on KNFB Reader and the iPhone 4S brings up sources like the KNFB Reader home page and the entry in the App Store, which you should obviously trust. Links to posts on other lists, blog articles, tweats and so on should be taken with a grain of salt. Asking people for their source of information is obviously OK, and in this case, I'm not sure the response to Google it was a very valuable response, but if I recall, the person said there source was that they heard about it from multiple sources, so again, you're back to Googling, if you really want more information on the topic. On 02/08/2015 10:42 PM, Charles Rivard wrote: You can Google for info, but to be sure of accuracy, as in the case of the KNFB reader, the manufacturer is the best source. They, if anyone knows, should. So I ask for someone's source rather than looking through Google, where you may get several sources, some will be correct and others will be inaccurate. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 9:55 PM Subject: Re: FYI when you bring a new computer or iPhone or other electronic device home how to keep it safe I don't understand this post. Googling tends to get you closer to the source, not further away from it. By way of example, how many posts have we seen on the list lately claiming that KNFB Reader Technology doesn't support the 4S, which is not the case, and is easily checked by Googling. Googling gets you closer to the source whereas hearsay on the list tends to get you further away from it. I'm not saying we shouldn't be posting questions and answers to the list, there are things you'll only find out by exchanging information on a list like this, but I think people our missing out on a great resource if they don't use Google. On 02/08/2015 09:39 PM, Charles Rivard wrote: Rather than googling, I'd rather get the source from the person who sent the information. It's always better to get information right from the horse's mouth rather than from a stable worker who heard it from the owner of the horse who heard it from, well, you get the idea. Thanks. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Wren Langley wrenlang...@sbcglobal.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 7:43 PM Subject: Re: FYI when you bring a new computer or iPhone or other electronic device home how to keep it safe Hi, you can Google it and find out all about it. God bless, Wren Langley Sent from my iPhone On Feb 8, 2015, at 4:01 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose b...@benmr.com wrote: Hi, For what it's worth there is actually some merrit behind this advice. Remember that changes in temperature cause things to expand / contract. If we look at a chip that's been soldered onto a PCB for example, leaving the device containing said PCB in a cold environment for an extended period of time may cause the PCB to become slightly deformed, which may result in one of the legs of the chip not making an overly good connection, in turn causing the device to malfunction. Cheers, Ben. On 2/8/15, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Where did you get this information from? --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Wren Langley wrenlang...@sbcglobal.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 10:11 AM Subject: FYI when you bring a new computer or iPhone or other electronic device home how to keep it safe Hi all, I just learned this and thought I would share. When you buy an electronic device if it is cold, bring the device home and take it out of the box. Set it on something that is not metal, and leave it for an hour so that it can come up to room temperature. Once the hour is up it is pretty safe to plug the computer the device in and then charge it. If you charge it before it comes up to room temperature there could be damage caused from
Re: Plantronics Voyager Legend Question...
Hi Andy: This was the problem exactly!! I unmuted the mic, and tried making a call, and the person could hear me just fine! Thanks for the help and letting me know about this muting the mic thing!! Alan, unfortunately, I have no idea about the inserts as I just got mine a few days ago. I would just search on walmart.com or target.com or bestbuy.com for Plantronics inserts or something like that. I can't imagine they would be that much. Hope this helps you. Thanks, Kerri On 2/5/15, Alan J Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote: I have a question about ear peace incerts for the Legend. I need to buy replacement inserts for the Legend. Has anybody had to buy new replacements and if so, how much are we talking about? I heard you can get them at Walmart, Target, and Bestbuy. Has anybody had to replace their insert peaces? Mine sort of wobble around and they usually fit solidly. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: FYI when you bring a new computer or iPhone or other electronic device home how to keep it safe
Hi, you can Google it and find out all about it. God bless, Wren Langley Sent from my iPhone On Feb 8, 2015, at 4:01 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose b...@benmr.com wrote: Hi, For what it's worth there is actually some merrit behind this advice. Remember that changes in temperature cause things to expand / contract. If we look at a chip that's been soldered onto a PCB for example, leaving the device containing said PCB in a cold environment for an extended period of time may cause the PCB to become slightly deformed, which may result in one of the legs of the chip not making an overly good connection, in turn causing the device to malfunction. Cheers, Ben. On 2/8/15, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Where did you get this information from? --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Wren Langley wrenlang...@sbcglobal.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 10:11 AM Subject: FYI when you bring a new computer or iPhone or other electronic device home how to keep it safe Hi all, I just learned this and thought I would share. When you buy an electronic device if it is cold, bring the device home and take it out of the box. Set it on something that is not metal, and leave it for an hour so that it can come up to room temperature. Once the hour is up it is pretty safe to plug the computer the device in and then charge it. If you charge it before it comes up to room temperature there could be damage caused from condensation or the item being too cold. This can sometimes damage or kill your device. God bless, Wren Langley -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
Re: adding locations to Weather Radio - Re: My apologies, I figured out how to how to add the location for W DT weather radio
Charles, I just tried it and it works fine for me. The add location is at bottom of screen and opens a new window where the edit box is. Hope you get it working. If not, maybe phone needs voice over turned off and on again, or reboot or a hard reboot. Sometimes I find that after not being turned off for a long time, like days, i need to restart the iPhone to get things rolling again. Mary Anne On 1/29/2015 12:54 PM, Charles Rivard wrote: Double tapping on the add new location does nothing. There is no search button or field into which I can type. In short, the add new location button does not function. Anyone have suggestions? --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Wren Langley wrenlang...@sbcglobal.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 11:54 AM Subject: Re: My apologies, I figured out how to how to add the location for W DT weather radio Hi, I am sorry for the late reply, but I just found your message. When you first open the app you will see your current location then if you flip to the right you will see the next location if you added one the next I think is maps and then something else oh purchase lightning and then add location this is done by continuing to flip to the right there also I believe two other buttons which are share and settings. Double tap the ad locations button, then there is a search button, and you can type in here whatever location you want by typing in the name of the location or your ZIP Code. I need the ZIP Code of the location you want. After you add the location and go back to your main screen you will find a select button that is near your first location which would be your current location. Press by double tapping the select button it will show the new location you just added there is also a save button after you add the location. You should be told that you added the location successfully once you save it then after that you hit the select button on your main screen and your new location will show up. Please let me know how you make out just double ta Sent from my iPhone On Jan 26, 2015, at 9:58 PM, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: How did you add a location? I cannot do so using either the onscreen keyboard or an Apple Bluetooth keyboard. I've tried using the right and left arrow combination to change modes on the Bluetooth keyboard to no avail. Thanks. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Wren Langley wrenlang...@sbcglobal.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 3:26 PM Subject: My apologies, I figured out how to how to add the location for W DT weather radio Hi all, I found the location by hitting the select button on Independence Missouri's location and then the Dracut location showed up. Thank you all and God bless, Wren Langley Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this
Re: Sending Mail When Away From Home
I'm not familiar with this email provider, but it looks like it might be your INTERNET provider as well. If so, you may be using an internal SMTP server when your connected to your wireless which you can't get to when you're not connected to the INTERNET through this provider. Check out your providers web site to see if they have some instructions on how to send email when you're not at home. The page at https://iihelp.iinet.net.au/Email_Settings might help, but like I said, I'm not familiar with this provider. On 02/08/2015 08:54 PM, Jenny Dawson wrote: Hi Everyone When I'm away from my wireless network I can't send email from my 5S. I don't have any problem receiving mail, Just can't send. I've looked everywhere I can think of in settings but can't see where to fix this. My primary account is my iinet account. Could someone tell me what I need to do? thanks in anticipation. Regards jenny Jennifer dawson Phone: 08 94961024 Email: jjdaw...@iinet.net.au -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
