Re: Apple Watch and accessibility

2015-04-09 Thread Ivan Soto
hello, I believe tim’s email is tc...@apple.com mailto:tc...@apple.com
hope this helps 
Send from OS X macbook air

Ivan Soto
ivan60...@gmail.com



 On Apr 8, 2015, at 9:51 PM, Paras parasha...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 hi,
 What is tim cook's email?
 Thanks
 
 sent via my IPhone 6 
 
 On Apr 8, 2015, at 8:57 PM, Brent Harding br...@hostany.net 
 mailto:br...@hostany.net wrote:
 
 It will be interesting to see if it will work at all with third-party apps 
 like Uber, Trivia Crack, etc.
  
 - Original Message - 
 From: Peter Logan mailto:pdlloga...@gmail.com
 To: Vi Phone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 8:55 PM
 Subject: Apple Watch and accessibility
 
 After sending a note to Tim Cook asking about the accessibility of the Apple 
 Watch ... here is the answer I got from Phil Schiller.  I appreciate that 
 they got back to me, and in a very timely manner.
  
 Peter, 
 
 Thank you for your question about Apple Watch Accessibility. 
 Yes, we do have support in Apple Watch for accessibility, that information 
 will be posted on apple.com  shortly. 
 
 Below are the marketing descriptions of the Accessibility features for Apple 
 Watch. 
 
 Phil 
 
 ——— 
 
 VoiceOver 
 VoiceOver is a gesture-based screen reader that uses the speaker on Apple 
 Watch. It tells you everything that’s happening on the screen and helps you 
 navigate it — even if you can’t see it. VoiceOver on Apple Watch is 
 compatible with built-in apps and is available in all 14 supported 
 languages. 
 
 Font Adjustment 
 Activate Larger Dynamic Type to increase the text size for a range of Apple 
 Watch apps, including Mail, Messages, and Settings — and even some 
 third-party apps — to make it easier to read. You can also choose Bold Text 
 to make the text heavier across built-in apps. 
 
 Zoom 
 With Apple Watch, it’s easy to zoom in on your content by using the Digital 
 Crown to move across the screen by rows. With magnification up to 15 times 
 the native size, Zoom helps you enjoy all that Apple Watch has to offer. 
 
 Grayscale 
 If your vision is impaired by color, Apple Watch lets you enable grayscale 
 onscreen. Once you set the filter, the settings apply systemwide, so you’ll 
 see only shades of gray on the Home screen, apps, and more. 
 
 Extra Large Watch Face 
 Apple Watch has many different faces that you can change and customize. One 
 of them is an extra large watch face — with numbers that take up the entire 
 screen — that makes it easier to view the time. 
 
 Reduce Transparency 
 For features like alerts, Siri, and Glances, you can increase the contrast 
 on your Apple Watch screen by reducing the background transparency. 
 
 On/Off Labels
 To make it easier to see whether a setting is on or off, you can have Apple 
 Watch show an additional label on the on/off switch. 
 
 Reduce Motion 
 When you turn on Reduce Motion, 
 ﰆﰉﰃﰚﰅﰉﰋﰏﰅﰔﰃﰦﰏﰔﰏﰁﰉﰅﰃﰡﰅﰆﰃﰔﰏﰅﰆﰊﰛﰏﰏﰁﰅﰏﰌﰏﰔﰏﰁﰉﰆﰜﰅﰡﰃﰛﰅﰏﰞﰍﰔﰚﰌﰏﰜﰅﰉﰋﰏﰅﰚﰍﰛﰍﰌﰌﰍﰞﰅﰏﰄﰏﰊﰉﰅﰃﰡﰅﰈﰊﰃﰁﰆﰆﰉﰃﰚﰅﰉﰋﰏﰅﰔﰃﰦﰏﰔﰏﰁﰉﰅﰃﰡﰅﰆﰃﰔﰏﰅﰆﰊﰛﰏﰏﰁﰅﰏﰌﰏﰔﰏﰁﰉﰆﰜﰅﰡﰃﰛﰅﰏﰞﰍﰔﰚﰌﰏﰜﰅﰉﰋﰏﰅﰚﰍﰛﰍﰌﰌﰍﰞﰅﰏﰄﰏﰊﰉﰅﰃﰡﰅﰈﰊﰃﰁﰆﰆﰉﰃﰚﰅﰉﰋﰏﰅﰔﰃﰦﰏﰔﰏﰁﰉﰅﰃﰡﰅﰆﰃﰔﰏﰅﰆﰊﰛﰏﰏﰁﰅﰏﰌﰏﰔﰏﰁﰉﰆﰜﰅﰡﰃﰛﰅﰏﰞﰍﰔﰚﰌﰏﰜﰅﰉﰋﰏﰅﰚﰍﰛﰍﰌﰌﰍﰞﰅﰏﰄﰏﰊﰉﰅﰃﰡﰅﰈﰊﰃﰁﰆsome
  screen elements no longer move. For example, the movement of icons on the 
 Home screen will be simpler and more directly associated with your 
 navigation gestures. 
 
 ———
 
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Re: iOS 8.3 is out!

2015-04-09 Thread Bill Gallik
I found it rather strange in that one iPhone (5 I believe) rebooted in an 
unusual state in that I was required to establish language.  

- Bill  Leader Dog Holland
- Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society.
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  From: Cristóbal 
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  Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 9:59 PM
  Subject: RE: iOS 8.3 is out!


  I was pleasantly surprised with my wifi updating experience. Took a total of 
maybe fifteen minutes. I usually do it via the PC, but this time I was too lazy 
to turn the computer on and launch iTunes etc. Don’t think I’ll make a habit 
out of updating over wifi, but at least this time for me, no problems and 
everything from the download to the installation to the phone turning back on 
was relatively quick.

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Teresa Cochran
  Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 5:52 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: iOS 8.3 is out!

   

  I'm actually going to wait till it prompts me that it's downloaded and ready 
to install. I find that I get too anxious if I try to force the download too 
early. :)

   

  Teresa

  Winging its way from my iPod


  On Apr 8, 2015, at 5:03 PM, Brent Harding br...@hostany.net wrote:

It took quite a long time. 

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  Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 4:31 PM

  Subject: Re: iOS 8.3 is out!

   

  Mine started the update and I'm wondering if it's actually failed this 
time.  Silence is, well, not golden!  Smiles

   

  Carol P

   

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Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 10:25 PM

Subject: iOS 8.3 is out!

 

The subject line says it all.  I now have 8.3 on both my iPhone 5s and 
my iPad Air.  Off to check out the goodies!


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Re: Whose ordering the Apple watch?

2015-04-09 Thread Harry Bell
And the Watch will enable an iPhone 5s owner to use Apple Pay?

 

 On 9 Apr 2015, at 17:34, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Except that the watch will also interact with your phone over wifi thus 
 giving you much greater range than just using a bluetooth headset with your 
 phone, so not exactly no advantage at all.
 
 On 04/09/2015 10:16 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
 Yes, but if you use a bluetooth headset then there is 0 advantage to the 
 watch since the bluetooth headset works just the same with the phone 
 directly.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Rick Alfaro
 Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2015 6:57 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Whose ordering the Apple watch?
 
 Hi, yes, the watch has a speaker, and calls taken on the watch behave like 
 using a speaker phone. Of course you can use a BlueTooth headset in addition 
 to the watch if concerned about privacy. That is what I've surmised from 
 reading various reviews anyhow.
 
 
 
 Best regards,
 
 Rick Alfaro
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Ron Pelletier
 Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2015 1:46 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Whose ordering the Apple watch?
 
 Hi Rick,
 
 Am I right to assume that all calls you take on your watch will be with open 
 speaker and therefore, not private?  If I'm on a bus, restaurant or any 
 other public place, I don't really like the idea of people around me hearing 
 the other end of the conversation, so short as it may be.  I've been using a 
 cell phone for 25 years and it took me a long time even to accept the idea 
 of answering my phone in public.  Maybe that's because there weren't very 
 many cell phones around and too many people who had them talked as loud as 
 they could so that everyone around realized they were important enough to 
 have a cell phone.  Back then, I was totally blind and a piano tuner and 
 loved my phone because I was on the road all day and found it very 
 convenient to be able to call my next customer for instructions to get to 
 their house and not to pretend that I was a very famous brain surgeon who 
 had to be on call at all times.
 
 Ron  Danvers
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Rick Alfaro
 Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 1:03 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Whose ordering the Apple watch?
 
 Hi Mary.
 
 I currently alternate through 2 watches, a Tisot Silent T, and a watch that 
 is both Braille and talking. I frequently use the BEM speaker band but it 
 isn't a watch.
 
 Here are my reasons for getting the Apple watch.
 
 1. I'm a geek and just can't help myself. (lol) 2. I look forward to not 
 having to take my phone off of my belt case every time a notification comes 
 in and getting haptec alerts on my wrist.
 3. I also look forward to being able to read and reply to text messages via 
 the watch again without having to fumble for my phone.
 4. Making and receiving calls right on the watch also really appeals to me.
 
 After reading the many hands-on reviews around, I'm sure there will be some 
 other functions that I'll use daily. I think it's really a matter of 
 convenience. I do agree however that it won't be for everyone and the things 
 that appeal to me might be a turn off for others.
 
 My only concern is that it's a 1.0 product and I think we all know how that 
 could go but again the geek in me says go for it Dude!
 
 Some of the functionality coming with the Apple watch I was actually getting 
 with the BEM speaker band but alas it isn't a watch.
 
 Best regards,
 
 Rick Alfaro
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Mary Otten
 Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2015 11:50 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Whose ordering the Apple watch?
 
 Hi Rick,
 As I said in a different thread, I won't be ordering an Apple Watch. 
 However, I would be very interested to know why you are. Do you now use a 
 braille watch? Just curious. I can't imagine not having a braille watch, 
 it's so convenient for what it is. And I also I'm just not seeing any upside 
 to having to watch the Apple one that is. So, I do respect your opinion and 
 your tech savvy, so would love to know why you are going to be up at 3 AM to 
 place your order. Good luck with it.
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Apr 8, 2015, at 8:03 AM, Rick Alfaro rick.alf...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Pre-ordering begins on April 10th at 12:01pdt, 03:01EDT.  I'm curious
 how many of you will be ordering 1. I have a feeling that not many are
 for various reasons. If you are, which model? Anyone ordering the
 $10,000 version? (lol)
 
 I actually will be one of the suckers up at 3am placing my order for
 the Sport model with a black band.
 
 Anyone else?
 
 
 
 Best 

RE: Whose ordering the Apple watch?

2015-04-09 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Yes, but if you use a bluetooth headset then there is 0 advantage to the watch 
since the bluetooth headset works just the same with the phone directly.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rick Alfaro
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2015 6:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Whose ordering the Apple watch?

Hi, yes, the watch has a speaker, and calls taken on the watch behave like 
using a speaker phone. Of course you can use a BlueTooth headset in addition to 
the watch if concerned about privacy. That is what I've surmised from reading 
various reviews anyhow.



Best regards,

Rick Alfaro

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Ron Pelletier
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2015 1:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Whose ordering the Apple watch?

Hi Rick,

Am I right to assume that all calls you take on your watch will be with open 
speaker and therefore, not private?  If I'm on a bus, restaurant or any other 
public place, I don't really like the idea of people around me hearing the 
other end of the conversation, so short as it may be.  I've been using a cell 
phone for 25 years and it took me a long time even to accept the idea of 
answering my phone in public.  Maybe that's because there weren't very many 
cell phones around and too many people who had them talked as loud as they 
could so that everyone around realized they were important enough to have a 
cell phone.  Back then, I was totally blind and a piano tuner and loved my 
phone because I was on the road all day and found it very convenient to be able 
to call my next customer for instructions to get to their house and not to 
pretend that I was a very famous brain surgeon who had to be on call at all 
times. 

Ron  Danvers

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rick Alfaro
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 1:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Whose ordering the Apple watch?

Hi Mary.

I currently alternate through 2 watches, a Tisot Silent T, and a watch that is 
both Braille and talking. I frequently use the BEM speaker band but it isn't a 
watch.

Here are my reasons for getting the Apple watch.

1. I'm a geek and just can't help myself. (lol) 2. I look forward to not having 
to take my phone off of my belt case every time a notification comes in and 
getting haptec alerts on my wrist.
3. I also look forward to being able to read and reply to text messages via the 
watch again without having to fumble for my phone.
4. Making and receiving calls right on the watch also really appeals to me.

After reading the many hands-on reviews around, I'm sure there will be some 
other functions that I'll use daily. I think it's really a matter of 
convenience. I do agree however that it won't be for everyone and the things 
that appeal to me might be a turn off for others.

My only concern is that it's a 1.0 product and I think we all know how that 
could go but again the geek in me says go for it Dude!

Some of the functionality coming with the Apple watch I was actually getting 
with the BEM speaker band but alas it isn't a watch.

Best regards,

Rick Alfaro

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2015 11:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Whose ordering the Apple watch?

Hi Rick,
As I said in a different thread, I won't be ordering an Apple Watch. However, I 
would be very interested to know why you are. Do you now use a braille watch? 
Just curious. I can't imagine not having a braille watch, it's so convenient 
for what it is. And I also I'm just not seeing any upside to having to watch 
the Apple one that is. So, I do respect your opinion and your tech savvy, so 
would love to know why you are going to be up at 3 AM to place your order. Good 
luck with it.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 8, 2015, at 8:03 AM, Rick Alfaro rick.alf...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Pre-ordering begins on April 10th at 12:01pdt, 03:01EDT.  I'm curious 
 how many of you will be ordering 1. I have a feeling that not many are 
 for various reasons. If you are, which model? Anyone ordering the 
 $10,000 version? (lol)
 
 I actually will be one of the suckers up at 3am placing my order for 
 the Sport model with a black band.
 
 Anyone else?
 
 
 
 Best regards,
 
 Rick Alfaro
 
 
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Re: A Question About The New Emoji Keyboard in iOS 8.3

2015-04-09 Thread Wayne Merritt
Christina,
When you are in an edit box and you bring up the emojy keyboard, in
the bottom left corner is the switch to button, then the recently
used button, then the buttons for the different categories of symbols.
This morning I switched to the emojy keyboard, changed my typing to
standard typing, then double tapped the people category. I then put my
finger where the emojy symbols started and started flicking right. I
never came to a page chooser and must have gone through between 30-50
symbols before I found the one I wanted. You could use the same method
but put your finger on the switch keyboard button and flick left, and
you would be going from last to first. And remember when you choose
the symbol you want, to switch back to touch typing or whatever method
you usually use.

Have fun,
Wayne

On 4/9/15, Christina blindmaclo...@gmail.com wrote:
 I cannot find all of the symbols. I also cannot figure out how to bring up
 the different skin tones. Before, there were multiple pages of symbols per
 category, now I can only find one page per category, and I am also doing
 something that keeps bringing me back to The recently used symbols.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 9, 2015, at 7:43 AM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote:

 I read an article about the new symbols in the emojy keyboard, and
 there are many more symbols and variations for different ethnic and
 ratial groups, along with a few other additions I'm sure. I looked at
 the emojy keyboard earlier briefly, and it seemed that there were 4
 lines of symbols where before there were 3. Also, VoiceOver was more
 descriptive in reading each symbol. For example, instead of saying
 face with clenching teeth, it said grinning face with clenching teeth.
 I found other instances of that on the symbols that I use most often.

 Wayne

 On 4/8/15, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote:
 This is from the changes list:
 Other improvements and bug fixes
 ·Introduces a redesigned Emoji keyboard with over 300 new
 characters

 I'm not sure why Apple would say there are over 300 new characters but
 actually have less.
 Richard




 On Apr 8, 2015, at 8:06 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:

 Hello Donna,

 Thank you for your reply.

 I gleamed this new layout but, still, to me, it seems as though there
 are
 fewer symbols.

 Oh well, it is what it is.

 Thank you for confirming the new layout.

 Mark

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of Donna
 Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 7:02 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: A Question About The New Emoji Keyboard in iOS 8.3

 Hi

 I have to say that I hate the emoji keyboard!! Here is how the emoji
 keyboard is laid out now. There are now 8 categories of emoji's. The
 tabs
 are along the bottom. A few new emoji's have been added. The reason it
 seems as though that there is less is because each of the individual
 categories are no longer listed in pages per category. There is now one
 long list of emoji's with no clear division of each category. To make
 his
 clearer, if you choose the People tab, you are now able to swipe
 through
 all of the categories without choosing the next category tab.

 Donna

 Hello Everyone,

 You know, I was going to update my 5 S from 8.2 to 8.3 just after I
 updated my 6 Plus to 8.3.

 Then, for whatever reason, I decided to hold off and do a little
 comparison of various features.

 I'm sitting here fiddling with the new Emoji keyboard and, from my
 perspective, there does not appear to be as many symbols as in 8.2.

 I realize that I must be missing something but, for the life of me, I
 cannot figure out what it is.

 In 8.2, when using the Emoji keyboard, there are several tabs at the
 bottom of the keyboard.  Above the keyboard, there are sub-pages
 listed as page 1, page 2, etc.  The pages at the top offer more
 symbols that exist in the category that is selected at the bottom.

 Now, in 8.3, as far as I can tell, there are no sub-pages per category
 but rather 20-pages, altogether.

 Of course I realize that some of the symbols now offer varying skin
 tones that may be accessed by a double-tap and hold but, even with
 this, from my perspective, there seems to be fewer symbols from which
 to
 choose.

 Perhaps there is a new gesture I'm missing or something.

 I would appreciate any feedback on this as I am a little confused.

 Mark

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Re: Whose ordering the Apple watch?

2015-04-09 Thread Scott Davert
Almost, for those who use braille displays. I can do much much more
with a braille display than I can with an Apple watch in terms of
interacting with my phone. And all my apps are supported already. The
only thing it can do that my display can't is connect to my iPhone via
wifi. That, and provide haptic feedback. Is that worth $350 plus? Not
to me. I'd rather be a later adopter and have a more stable product
that I'll end up paying the same amount of money for.

Scott

On 4/9/15, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 Except that the watch will also interact with your phone over wifi thus
 giving you much greater range than just using a bluetooth headset with
 your phone, so not exactly no advantage at all.

 On 04/09/2015 10:16 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
 Yes, but if you use a bluetooth headset then there is 0 advantage to the
 watch since the bluetooth headset works just the same with the phone
 directly.


 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Rick Alfaro
 Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2015 6:57 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Whose ordering the Apple watch?

 Hi, yes, the watch has a speaker, and calls taken on the watch behave like
 using a speaker phone. Of course you can use a BlueTooth headset in
 addition to the watch if concerned about privacy. That is what I've
 surmised from reading various reviews anyhow.



 Best regards,

 Rick Alfaro

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Ron Pelletier
 Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2015 1:46 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Whose ordering the Apple watch?

 Hi Rick,

 Am I right to assume that all calls you take on your watch will be with
 open speaker and therefore, not private?  If I'm on a bus, restaurant or
 any other public place, I don't really like the idea of people around me
 hearing the other end of the conversation, so short as it may be.  I've
 been using a cell phone for 25 years and it took me a long time even to
 accept the idea of answering my phone in public.  Maybe that's because
 there weren't very many cell phones around and too many people who had
 them talked as loud as they could so that everyone around realized they
 were important enough to have a cell phone.  Back then, I was totally
 blind and a piano tuner and loved my phone because I was on the road all
 day and found it very convenient to be able to call my next customer for
 instructions to get to their house and not to pretend that I was a very
 famous brain surgeon who had to be on call at all times.

 Ron  Danvers

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Rick Alfaro
 Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 1:03 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Whose ordering the Apple watch?

 Hi Mary.

 I currently alternate through 2 watches, a Tisot Silent T, and a watch
 that is both Braille and talking. I frequently use the BEM speaker band
 but it isn't a watch.

 Here are my reasons for getting the Apple watch.

 1. I'm a geek and just can't help myself. (lol) 2. I look forward to not
 having to take my phone off of my belt case every time a notification
 comes in and getting haptec alerts on my wrist.
 3. I also look forward to being able to read and reply to text messages
 via the watch again without having to fumble for my phone.
 4. Making and receiving calls right on the watch also really appeals to
 me.

 After reading the many hands-on reviews around, I'm sure there will be
 some other functions that I'll use daily. I think it's really a matter of
 convenience. I do agree however that it won't be for everyone and the
 things that appeal to me might be a turn off for others.

 My only concern is that it's a 1.0 product and I think we all know how
 that could go but again the geek in me says go for it Dude!

 Some of the functionality coming with the Apple watch I was actually
 getting with the BEM speaker band but alas it isn't a watch.

 Best regards,

 Rick Alfaro

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Mary Otten
 Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2015 11:50 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Whose ordering the Apple watch?

 Hi Rick,
 As I said in a different thread, I won't be ordering an Apple Watch.
 However, I would be very interested to know why you are. Do you now use a
 braille watch? Just curious. I can't imagine not having a braille watch,
 it's so convenient for what it is. And I also I'm just not seeing any
 upside to having to watch the Apple one that is. So, I do respect your
 opinion and your tech savvy, so would love to know why you are going to be
 up at 3 AM to place your order. Good luck with it.
 Mary


 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 8, 2015, at 8:03 AM, Rick Alfaro rick.alf...@gmail.com wrote:

 Pre-ordering begins on April 10th at 

Re: In braille input mode, how do i know where the keys start?

2015-04-09 Thread Alex Hall
Character echo does work, but only in 6 dot mode. If you use contracted 
braille, dots are not spoken as you type. I use word feedback so I can hear 
what I've written when I do the space gesture. Explore Mode is working as 
expected here, I'm not sure why yours isn't.
 On Apr 9, 2015, at 8:59 AM, Ioana Gandrabur igandra...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello, 
 It appears that, even if one has set typing feedback to characters, they are 
 not spoken out in Braille input. It's trial and error but works quite well 
 once you get the hang of it. A work around is to type 1 character and 
 backspace with left single finger swipe !hear what dots are being inputed. 
 
 Interestingly, there used to be a half baked feature in 8.2 called explore 
 mode. 
 It is now gone completely if I'm right but gives me hope it's in the works. 
 I'll ask accessibility about it. 
 
 About dot calibration you have to start with dots 456 and then follow with 
 123 and should then hear Dots calibrated 
 Hth, Ioana  
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Apr 9, 2015, at 8:30 AM, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello
 This may sound like a silly question so let me try to explain:
 I’m trying out the braille input mode in iOs8.3 and it appears that i have 
 to have the rotor set to characters in order to know where the actual 
 braille keys begin, right? How else could i determine this without typing 
 trange letters or signs at random? Looks like the keyboard for braille is 
 always there as oposed to the standard keyboard that only pops up when a 
 text field is editable. Also Voiceover tells me to calibrate the braille by 
 moving and then lifting 3 fingers on one hand then 3 on the other, however 
 no matter what i do, braille keyboard seems to be in the same place.
 Sorry for all these questions but i’m new to this part of the iPhone and try 
 to determine if to use it or not.
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Re: In braille input mode, how do i know where the keys start?

2015-04-09 Thread Penny Reeder
Alex, Thank you for this comprehensive set of instructions. They are
perfect! I had tried the braille input a few times since I upgraded to
IOS 8 (and above), but gave up in frustration. After reading your
instructions (and following along), I was successful right away. You
are a born teacher!
Penny

On 4/9/15, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 Character echo does work, but only in 6 dot mode. If you use contracted
 braille, dots are not spoken as you type. I use word feedback so I can hear
 what I've written when I do the space gesture. Explore Mode is working as
 expected here, I'm not sure why yours isn't.
 On Apr 9, 2015, at 8:59 AM, Ioana Gandrabur igandra...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,
 It appears that, even if one has set typing feedback to characters, they
 are not spoken out in Braille input. It's trial and error but works quite
 well once you get the hang of it. A work around is to type 1 character and
 backspace with left single finger swipe !hear what dots are being inputed.


 Interestingly, there used to be a half baked feature in 8.2 called explore
 mode.
 It is now gone completely if I'm right but gives me hope it's in the
 works.
 I'll ask accessibility about it.

 About dot calibration you have to start with dots 456 and then follow with
 123 and should then hear Dots calibrated
 Hth, Ioana



 Sent from my iPhone

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 wrote:

 Hello
 This may sound like a silly question so let me try to explain:
 I'm trying out the braille input mode in iOs8.3 and it appears that i
 have to have the rotor set to characters in order to know where the
 actual braille keys begin, right? How else could i determine this without
 typing trange letters or signs at random? Looks like the keyboard for
 braille is always there as oposed to the standard keyboard that only pops
 up when a text field is editable. Also Voiceover tells me to calibrate
 the braille by moving and then lifting 3 fingers on one hand then 3 on
 the other, however no matter what i do, braille keyboard seems to be in
 the same place.
 Sorry for all these questions but i'm new to this part of the iPhone and
 try to determine if to use it or not.
 /Krister

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Re: Family sharing questions.

2015-04-09 Thread Richard Turner
Unless Apple just changed the policy, it is 6 total people, the Organizer and 5 
more.
If the app says that Family Purchase is Yes in the app store description, then 
in-app purchases should be covered. Exactly how that works I'm not sure.
I'd recommend calling Apple Accessibility and asking them to clarify.
Richard




 On Apr 9, 2015, at 9:28 AM, Mária Orovčíková maria.orovcik...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello Isaac and all,
 thank you very much for the info.
 I have one more question. What if a certain app requires in-app purchase?
 Once I do in-app purchase and other members will get the app, will they have 
 in-app purchase included or each member must do in-app purchase?
 Thank you for help.
 With kind regards
 Maria
 On 9. 4. 2015 18:09, Isaac Hebert wrote:
 Family sharing allows you and six other people with you being the organizer 
 to share  iTunes app store and ibook store purchases with each other.
 What I mean is you can share movies music books apps with each other.
 You will be the organizer so if they make a purchases not from the purchases 
 section under family but if they purchase an app from the app store that 
 requires payment it will be charged to your account.
 In other words you will be paying for every one's purchase that is a part of 
  family sharing.
 If some one wants to download an app  that you have already purchased then 
 they have to go to for  example iTunes purchased content go to iTunes  
 choose more and then choose purchased and then they  have to double tap one 
 of the  name of the family member's purchases  they want to view.
 If they want to view app store purchases then they have to go to app store.
 Then go to updates.
 Then go to purchased.
 Then double tap the name of the family members purchases they want to view.
 Another thing is that with family sharing you also get a family calendar as 
 well wheir you can keep up with family events.
 There is more to family sharing but that should give you a little bit of how 
 family sharing works.
 Here is a link to more info about family sharing.
 https://www.apple.com/ios/whats-new/family-sharing/
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: Whose ordering the Apple watch?

2015-04-09 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Rick, yes you can do this, although there is only 2GB of storage that Apple 
allocates for music on the watch itself, so people will have to be really 
selective.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org

 On 10/04/2015, at 3:26 am, Rick Alfaro rick.alf...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 From what I understand, you can pair a BT headset directly to the watch for 
 listening to music living on the watch itself. I do agree though, totally 
 useless with no advantage I can see at this point.
 
 
 
 Best regards,
 
 Rick Alfaro
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2015 11:17 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Whose ordering the Apple watch?
 
 Yes, but if you use a bluetooth headset then there is 0 advantage to the 
 watch since the bluetooth headset works just the same with the phone directly.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Rick Alfaro
 Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2015 6:57 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Whose ordering the Apple watch?
 
 Hi, yes, the watch has a speaker, and calls taken on the watch behave like 
 using a speaker phone. Of course you can use a BlueTooth headset in addition 
 to the watch if concerned about privacy. That is what I've surmised from 
 reading various reviews anyhow.
 
 
 
 Best regards,
 
 Rick Alfaro
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Ron Pelletier
 Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2015 1:46 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Whose ordering the Apple watch?
 
 Hi Rick,
 
 Am I right to assume that all calls you take on your watch will be with open 
 speaker and therefore, not private?  If I'm on a bus, restaurant or any other 
 public place, I don't really like the idea of people around me hearing the 
 other end of the conversation, so short as it may be.  I've been using a cell 
 phone for 25 years and it took me a long time even to accept the idea of 
 answering my phone in public.  Maybe that's because there weren't very many 
 cell phones around and too many people who had them talked as loud as they 
 could so that everyone around realized they were important enough to have a 
 cell phone.  Back then, I was totally blind and a piano tuner and loved my 
 phone because I was on the road all day and found it very convenient to be 
 able to call my next customer for instructions to get to their house and not 
 to pretend that I was a very famous brain surgeon who had to be on call at 
 all times. 
 
 Ron  Danvers
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Rick Alfaro
 Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 1:03 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Whose ordering the Apple watch?
 
 Hi Mary.
 
 I currently alternate through 2 watches, a Tisot Silent T, and a watch that 
 is both Braille and talking. I frequently use the BEM speaker band but it 
 isn't a watch.
 
 Here are my reasons for getting the Apple watch.
 
 1. I'm a geek and just can't help myself. (lol) 2. I look forward to not 
 having to take my phone off of my belt case every time a notification comes 
 in and getting haptec alerts on my wrist.
 3. I also look forward to being able to read and reply to text messages via 
 the watch again without having to fumble for my phone.
 4. Making and receiving calls right on the watch also really appeals to me.
 
 After reading the many hands-on reviews around, I'm sure there will be some 
 other functions that I'll use daily. I think it's really a matter of 
 convenience. I do agree however that it won't be for everyone and the things 
 that appeal to me might be a turn off for others.
 
 My only concern is that it's a 1.0 product and I think we all know how that 
 could go but again the geek in me says go for it Dude!
 
 Some of the functionality coming with the Apple watch I was actually getting 
 with the BEM speaker band but alas it isn't a watch.
 
 Best regards,
 
 Rick Alfaro
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Mary Otten
 Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2015 11:50 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Whose ordering the Apple watch?
 
 Hi Rick,
 As I said in a different thread, I won't be ordering an Apple Watch. However, 
 I would be very interested to know why you are. Do you now use a braille 
 watch? Just curious. I can't imagine not having a braille watch, it's so 
 convenient for what it is. And I also I'm just not seeing any upside to 
 having to watch the Apple one that is. So, I do respect your opinion and your 
 tech savvy, so would love to know why you are going to be up at 3 AM to place 
 your order. Good luck with it.
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: a very strange download problem when updating the new IOS 8.3

2015-04-09 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I saw a downloading button at the bottom of the screen that was dimmed, 
but above that button, there was another button that said something like 
download and install. Once I double tapped on that button, the install 
progressed without a hitch.


On 04/09/2015 10:48 AM, Kimber Gardner wrote:

So you were still able to click it even though the button was dimmed?
Because I had the same issue and assumed the update was not yet
available.

On 4/9/15, jazzyjennifer jwens2...@gmail.com wrote:

hi there, yeah i had that same problem. then when i finaly found the
download button, it said download button dimmed. after i clicked on
download and agreed to everything, it said downloading dimed. so i had
to get out of settings and re open it and go back under general. then
soft ware up date and everything up dated right. installing this up
date. was very intresting.

On 4/9/2015 8:00 AM, Jed Barton wrote:

Hey guys,

OK, i don't know whether i should be concerned or what, but i have
never seen this before.  I went to settings, and general, and software
update to go get the new 8.3.
When i clicked software update, i flicked right, it said software
update heading, then i flicked once more, and all i heard was a click
sound, then if i flicked again i heard the bong which means you're at
the end of where you can go.  I'd enver had this happen before.  In
order to get to the download of the IOS, i had to go all over the
screen to find the button to click on. This is a concern, as this has
never happened before.  Any ideas, could something be wrong?



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Re: Latest IOS update?

2015-04-09 Thread Terry-Ann Saurmann

Hi Kim,

Since the upgrade to IOS8
, I too hear about IOS updates before notifications appear on my devices. 
I'm not sure why that is.  However, despite this, I have been able to find 
all updates in settings and download and install them with no problem. 
Terry


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 7:56 PM
Subject: Latest IOS update?


Hello again,

I've been following the threads about the latest update.  I don't seem to 
have any notification of it.  I looked at the updates in settings and 
nothing is there,  I've noticed that I've been behind with other updates as 
well.  Do they send out notification/links in batches?


I'm just curious.

Kim




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Apple Watch

2015-04-09 Thread Angie Nutt
Hi all,

I replied to a couple of people on here yesterday re Apple watch but it appears 
my messages didn’t get through as they’re not in my sent mailbox so I’ll put my 
thoughts all together.

I won’t be preordering one as I can’t justify the expense at the moment and it 
will make a good Christmas present I think. It would be good to get in at the 
beginning though and it will be hard waiting. Smile.

As to why I want one:

My main reason I have to confess is to play with to see what I can do. Looking 
at a long article someone posted here it’s somewhat complicated so there’s 
likely to be plenty of fun and games. Smile.

I’d originally thought of getting the Apple Watch but think maybe I’ll get the 
sport model as this is the first generation and if it’s successful it will 
improve in time and then spending more will be of more value, especially as 
according to the same article the battery life isn’t long. A day would be fine 
for me but with Voiceover I’d expect to get somewhat less, particularly as it’s 
likely, at least at first, to take longer to do things with it.

Another reason I want one is the ability to use it over WIFI which hopefully 
will mean I won’t have to keep my phone as close by as with my bluetooth 
earpiece which doesn’t work all over the house.

I can hardly wait to hear how it works with Voiceover and look forward to the 
findings of those of you who will get it soon.

With much anticipation
Angie

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Re: Latest IOS update?

2015-04-09 Thread Wayne Merritt
Give it time. I've noticed sometimes when the updates come out, my
phone doesn't see them immediately. If I wait a few days it will show
in Settings. I know this because if an update is there VoiceOver will
say, Settings, 1 item, where that 1 item is the update.

Patience,
Wayne

On 4/8/15, Kim Samco ksa...@me.com wrote:
 Thanks Mary.  I'm sure it's personal andthey hate me.  grin

 Hope you're well!

 Kim



 On Apr 8, 2015, at 6:13 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Kim,
 I did not get an official notification that the update was available and
 have been downloaded. I just opened settings, general, software update.
 And it looked and found the update for both my iPhone 5s and my iPad mini.
 I am rather surprised, if you do that, that you're not getting the
 opportunity to download and install the update. Very strange.
 Mary


 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 8, 2015, at 5:56 PM, Kim Samco ksa...@me.com wrote:

 Hello again,

 I've been following the threads about the latest update.  I don't seem to
 have any notification of it.  I looked at the updates in settings and
 nothing is there,  I've noticed that I've been behind with other updates
 as well.  Do they send out notification/links in batches?

 I'm just curious.

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having issues with the voice alex

2015-04-09 Thread james f hooper
Greetings just got an iphone 5s for some reason when I try to switch to the
alex voice nothing any ideas?

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apple accessibility number

2015-04-09 Thread james f hooper
Does anyone have the apple accessability number?

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Doubled Keystrokes with iOS 8.3 and Logitech Bluetooth Keyboard?

2015-04-09 Thread Chris Smart

False alarm!

A second reboot of the phone and reconnecting to the keyboard and 
everything is working as it should again!


I hope that doesn't happen often.

Chris

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Re: Apple Watch and accessibility

2015-04-09 Thread Chris Smart

LOL and how many people deal with his email for him?

At 10:51 PM 4/8/2015, you wrote:

hi,
What is tim cook's email?
Thanks

sent via my IPhone 6

On Apr 8, 2015, at 8:57 PM, Brent Harding 
mailto:br...@hostany.netbr...@hostany.net wrote:


It will be interesting to see if it will work 
at all with third-party apps like Uber, Trivia Crack, etc.


- Original Message -
From: mailto:pdlloga...@gmail.comPeter Logan
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.comVi Phone
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 8:55 PM
Subject: Apple Watch and accessibility

After sending a note to Tim Cook asking about 
the accessibility of the Apple Watch ... here 
is the answer I got from Phil Schiller.  I 
appreciate that they got back to me, and in a very timely manner.


Peter,

Thank you for your question about Apple Watch Accessibility.
Yes, we do have support in Apple Watch for 
accessibility, that information will be posted on apple.com shortly.


Below are the marketing descriptions of the 
Accessibility features for Apple Watch.


Phil

â—————— ”——————

VoiceOver
VoiceOver is a gesture-based screen reader that 
uses the speaker on Apple Watch. It tells you 
everything that’s happening on the screen and 
helps you navigate it — even if you can’t see 
it. VoiceOver on Apple Watch is compatible with 
built-in apps and is available in all 14 supported languages.


Font Adjustment
Activate Larger Dynamic Type to increase the 
text size for a range of Apple Watch apps, 
including Mail, Messages, and Settings — and 
even some third-party apps — to make it easier 
to read. You can also cchoose Bold Text to make 
the text heavier across built-in apps.


Zoom
With Apple Watch, it’s easy to zoom in on 
your content by using the Digital Crown to move 
across the screen by rows. With magnification 
up to 15 times the native size, Zoom helps you 
enjoy all that Apple Watch has to offer.


Grayscale
If your vision is impaired by color, Apple 
Watch lets you enable grayscale onscreen. Once 
you set the filter, the settings apply 
systemwide, so you’ll see only shades of gray 
on the Home screen, apps, and more.


Extra Large Watch Face
Apple Watch has many different faces that you 
can change and customize. One of them is an 
extra large watch face — with numberrs that 
take up the entire screen — that makes it easier to view the time.


Reduce Transparency
For features like alerts, Siri, and Glances, 
you can increase the contrast on your Apple 
Watch screen by reducing the background transparency.


On/Off Labels
To make it easier to see whether a setting is 
on or off, you can have Apple Watch show an 
additional label on the on/off switch.


Reduce Motion
When you turn on Reduce Motion, 
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some screen elements no longer move. For 
example, the movement of icons on the Home 
screen will be simpler and more directly 
associated with your navigation gestures.


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RE: the install button not showing when trying to update to ios 8.3

2015-04-09 Thread Ron Pelletier
Hi,

Same with me on my 5S.  The install button could not be flicked to but I found 
it when I explored the screen with my finger.

Ron  Danvers


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Christopher Chaltain
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the install button not showing when trying to update to ios 8.3

Sorry if this is obvious, but on my iPhone 4S, I can't get to the download and 
install button by flicking to it; I have to find it by exploring the screen. 
I'm not sure if this is what you're running into or not.

On 04/08/2015 05:40 PM, Larry Lumpkin wrote:
 I got my ipad air updated successfully but the install button never 
 shows when trying to update my 5s.  Settings informs me I have one new 
 item and the update screen comes up but the more info button or 
 install button never show up.

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Re: ios 8.3 is out

2015-04-09 Thread Russ Kiehne
This update fixed all of the Safari issues I was having with ios 8 on my 5th 
generation ipod touch;.  I can now update my ipad mini to ios 8.3.

From: Alex Hall 
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 10:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: ios 8.3 is out

Indeed, 8.3 feels stable and solid. It fixes most of the VoiceOver bugs 8.0 
introduced, and adds some nice features (two-finger swipe left in braille input 
to delete by word, for instance). If you have 8.x already, do yourself a huge 
favor and get this update.

  On Apr 8, 2015, at 1:52 PM, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
wrote:

  Getting it now. Thanks for letting us know. Let me therefore publicly state 
that this has been a short and sweet beta cycle. I hope you like it.

On 8 Apr 2015, at 18:46, Ioana Gandrabur igandra...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi all,


Ios 8.3 is out. It mentions improvements with back button bog in safari and 
braille input, as well as focus in drafts mail. 

Downloading now.


Best,


Ioana




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Where do I go to select a friend to play against in trivia crack

2015-04-09 Thread Jen Colley
Hi,  
I recently installed trivia crack.  
I am wondering where in the game you go to select a friend to challenge?  
I’ve been through all the options but nowhere do I see a list of friends I can 
play against.  
Jen  

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Re: Facebook app now saying product in every story title

2015-04-09 Thread simon wong
Hi, whenever I share something on Facebook, through the phone, and when I go to 
check up on the computer later, I cannot seem to find it. What is the cause of 
this?

Sent from Simons iPhone

 On Apr 8, 2015, at 11:49 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 That has not been the case for me with Alex. iOS 8 .2 with Alex on an iPad 
 mini and an iPhone 5s did not have this product problem. It only started 
 with 8.3.
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
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 This has always been the case if you were using Alex in 8.2. Now it has come 
 to the female voice was well.  
 
 Sharonda
 Sent from my mobile device; please excuse any mistakes 
 
 On Apr 8, 2015, at 7:29 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Yes. It is definitely something that came in with 8.3. My fors which has 
 the same version of Facebook as my 5S, is still running 8.2. It does not 
 have the product issue. Hopefully they will fix it with the next update. 
 Or the one after that.
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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 Hi
 
 Yes, I have the annoying Facebook glitch. It's almost time for an update 
 for Facebook. Facebook releases updates every 2 weeks. The last update was 
 on Mar. 26th. Hopefully with the next update this glitch will be resolved. 
 
 Donna
 
 I think this may have started after I upgraded to I OS 8.3. Now, when I 
 go through my Facebook feed, every title of an article has the word 
 product in it. Is anybody else noticing this? It's kind of annoying. So I 
 hope it can be fixed.
 Mary
 
 
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Re: iOS 8.3 performance on older devices

2015-04-09 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I don't notice any degradation in performance on my 4S moving from IOS 
8.2 to 8.3. As discussed previously on this list, performance increased 
markedly in one of the earlier dot releases of IOS 8, and in my 
experience, it hasn't regressed since then.



On 04/09/2015 10:00 AM, Cristóbal wrote:

Hello list,

A question for those who are using older iPhones and iPads. I was
curious to know what sort of performance folks are experiencing with
this latest iOS 8.3 update. If it’s by any chance snappier in general
than prior 8.0 versions or if it at least doesn’t slow the device down
any more? My wife’es got a 4S that I plan on taking over from her for a
second line once we upgrade my phone, but on the times I do use her
phone, I notice that it’s really showing it’s age as far as sluggishness
and responsiveness with Voiceover. She’s sighted and has an iPad anyway
so performance as a whole on the phone is no big deal for her, but as I
want to use it, I’d like an idea of what I can come to expect. As a
second line, I don’t’ plan on using but the most basic apps for
communication so video or audio streaming or games won’t be a concern.
My guess is that 8.3 will probably be the last so called big update for
the 4S but for possible bug fix type of updates. So whatever it is now,
it will be. We’ve also got an old iPad 2 floating around here that’s
getting long in the tooth that I’d like to update if it won’t slow it
down any further.

Anyway, hopefully those who have had a chance to play with it on their
4S or even iPad 2 can provide their observations/feedback.

Thanks,

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Re: Family sharing questions.

2015-04-09 Thread Mária Orovčíková

Hello Isaac and all,
thank you very much for the info.
I have one more question. What if a certain app requires in-app purchase?
Once I do in-app purchase and other members will get the app, will they 
have in-app purchase included or each member must do in-app purchase?

Thank you for help.
With kind regards
Maria
On 9. 4. 2015 18:09, Isaac Hebert wrote:
Family sharing allows you and six other people with you being the 
organizer to share  iTunes app store and ibook store purchases with 
each other.

What I mean is you can share movies music books apps with each other.
You will be the organizer so if they make a purchases not from the 
purchases section under family but if they purchase an app from the 
app store that requires payment it will be charged to your account.
In other words you will be paying for every one's purchase that is a 
part of  family sharing.
If some one wants to download an app  that you have already purchased 
then they have to go to for  example iTunes purchased content go to 
iTunes  choose more and then choose purchased and then they  have to 
double tap one of the  name of the family member's purchases  they 
want to view.
If they want to view app store purchases then they have to go to app 
store.

Then go to updates.
Then go to purchased.
Then double tap the name of the family members purchases they want to 
view.
Another thing is that with family sharing you also get a family 
calendar as well wheir you can keep up with family events.
There is more to family sharing but that should give you a little bit 
of how family sharing works.

Here is a link to more info about family sharing.
https://www.apple.com/ios/whats-new/family-sharing/

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 8, 2015, at 7:34 PM, Mária Orovčíková 
maria.orovcik...@gmail.com mailto:maria.orovcik...@gmail.com wrote:



Hello list,
I have some questions about family sharing feature:
1. At first would anyone, please, describe how does it work?
2. In case I will setup Family sharing how many people can be invited?
3. Let's say I will purchase an app, how will other people know that 
they can download the app and is it completely free for them?
4. In case I will purchase an app that requires in-app purchase (such 
as Diceworld, triviacrack etc), each member must do in-app purchase 
or is it included in family sharing feature?
5. Is it possible to add previously purchased apps and make them 
available for family sharing?
6. Can I purchase an app just for myself that will not be included in 
family sharing or once I setup family sharing every single app will 
be included?
Sorry for all these questions, but I am very new with IOS 8 and 
thinking about setting up family sharing.

I hope my mail makes sense.
Thank youfor your help in advance.
With kind regards
Maria

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Re: having issues with the voice alex

2015-04-09 Thread BBS
Hi. Did you try cycling Voiceover on and off?

Shawn
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  Subject: having issues with the voice alex


  Greetings just got an iphone 5s for some reason when I try to switch to the 
alex voice nothing any ideas?


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Re: In braille input mode, how do i know where the keys start?

2015-04-09 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hi there,
See question below:

 9 apr 2015 kl. 15:22 skrev Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com:
 
 I use word feedback so I can hear what I've written when I do the space 
 gesture

But don’t you get a lot of random characters typed when trying to find the 
positions for the braille keys? I also want to have character echo set to word 
mode but then i don’t know where the dots actually begin.
/Krister

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recording audio note with evernote or other audio recorder

2015-04-09 Thread Dave Bahr
Hi. I was trying to record an audio note with evernote on my iphone 
6. However, when I hit record, voiceover transfers its speech from the 
speakerphone to the earpiece. I've noticed this happens with other audio 
recording apps as well. So, how can I find the Done button without 
raising the phone to my ear and trying to listen to voiceover talk to me 
faintly? What if it's loud where I'm recording? Is there some gesture to 
stop the recording so I don't have to hunt and peck for the done button 
at the top of the screen? Why does voiceover route its audio to the 
earpiece when using the microphone? Any help on this is greatly 
appreciated because I want to record more audio notes


thanks, dave

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Re: the install button not showing when trying to update to ios 8.3

2015-04-09 Thread carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
I didn't see any install button on my 4S either.  I went from accepting 
agreements, to downloading and ... somehow it got there ...

Carol P

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  Subject: the install button not showing when trying to update to ios 8.3


  I got my ipad air updated successfully but the install button never shows 
when trying to update my 5s.  Settings informs me I have one new item and the 
update screen comes up but the more info button or install button never show up.

   


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Re: Facebook app now saying product in every story title

2015-04-09 Thread Robert Hill
Yes, I am getting this too.
I wrote to accessibility at Apple, and they are saying to contact FaceBook 
about this.
Since FaceBook updates their app so frequently, that's probably a good way to 
go.

Bob 
. . 

Sent from Bob's iPhone

 On Apr 9, 2015, at 12:25 PM, Alan J Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net 
 wrote:
 
 Yes, I'm getting that as well and yes, it is enoying!
 
 
 
 
 Regards,
 Alan
 Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your parents? Act now! Move out. Get
 a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
 Please click on:
 http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
 There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
 the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. I often add files so check back regularly!
 The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still
 available upon request. Thanks for listening!
 -Original Message- From: Mary Otten
 Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 4:30 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Facebook app now saying product in every story title
 
 I think this may have started after I upgraded to I OS 8.3. Now, when I go 
 through my Facebook feed, every title of an article has the word product in 
 it. Is anybody else noticing this? It's kind of annoying. So I hope it can be 
 fixed.
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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RE: Whose ordering the Apple watch?

2015-04-09 Thread Rick Alfaro
From what I understand, you can pair a BT headset directly to the watch for 
listening to music living on the watch itself. I do agree though, totally 
useless with no advantage I can see at this point.



Best regards,

Rick Alfaro

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2015 11:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Whose ordering the Apple watch?

Yes, but if you use a bluetooth headset then there is 0 advantage to the watch 
since the bluetooth headset works just the same with the phone directly.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rick Alfaro
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2015 6:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Whose ordering the Apple watch?

Hi, yes, the watch has a speaker, and calls taken on the watch behave like 
using a speaker phone. Of course you can use a BlueTooth headset in addition to 
the watch if concerned about privacy. That is what I've surmised from reading 
various reviews anyhow.



Best regards,

Rick Alfaro

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Ron Pelletier
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2015 1:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Whose ordering the Apple watch?

Hi Rick,

Am I right to assume that all calls you take on your watch will be with open 
speaker and therefore, not private?  If I'm on a bus, restaurant or any other 
public place, I don't really like the idea of people around me hearing the 
other end of the conversation, so short as it may be.  I've been using a cell 
phone for 25 years and it took me a long time even to accept the idea of 
answering my phone in public.  Maybe that's because there weren't very many 
cell phones around and too many people who had them talked as loud as they 
could so that everyone around realized they were important enough to have a 
cell phone.  Back then, I was totally blind and a piano tuner and loved my 
phone because I was on the road all day and found it very convenient to be able 
to call my next customer for instructions to get to their house and not to 
pretend that I was a very famous brain surgeon who had to be on call at all 
times. 

Ron  Danvers

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rick Alfaro
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 1:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Whose ordering the Apple watch?

Hi Mary.

I currently alternate through 2 watches, a Tisot Silent T, and a watch that is 
both Braille and talking. I frequently use the BEM speaker band but it isn't a 
watch.

Here are my reasons for getting the Apple watch.

1. I'm a geek and just can't help myself. (lol) 2. I look forward to not having 
to take my phone off of my belt case every time a notification comes in and 
getting haptec alerts on my wrist.
3. I also look forward to being able to read and reply to text messages via the 
watch again without having to fumble for my phone.
4. Making and receiving calls right on the watch also really appeals to me.

After reading the many hands-on reviews around, I'm sure there will be some 
other functions that I'll use daily. I think it's really a matter of 
convenience. I do agree however that it won't be for everyone and the things 
that appeal to me might be a turn off for others.

My only concern is that it's a 1.0 product and I think we all know how that 
could go but again the geek in me says go for it Dude!

Some of the functionality coming with the Apple watch I was actually getting 
with the BEM speaker band but alas it isn't a watch.

Best regards,

Rick Alfaro

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2015 11:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Whose ordering the Apple watch?

Hi Rick,
As I said in a different thread, I won't be ordering an Apple Watch. However, I 
would be very interested to know why you are. Do you now use a braille watch? 
Just curious. I can't imagine not having a braille watch, it's so convenient 
for what it is. And I also I'm just not seeing any upside to having to watch 
the Apple one that is. So, I do respect your opinion and your tech savvy, so 
would love to know why you are going to be up at 3 AM to place your order. Good 
luck with it.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 8, 2015, at 8:03 AM, Rick Alfaro rick.alf...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Pre-ordering begins on April 10th at 12:01pdt, 03:01EDT.  I'm curious 
 how many of you will be ordering 1. I have a feeling that not many are 
 for various reasons. If you are, which model? Anyone ordering the 
 $10,000 version? (lol)
 
 I actually will be one of the suckers up at 3am placing my order for 
 the Sport model with a black band.
 
 Anyone else?
 
 
 
 Best regards,
 
 Rick 

I think they fixed double letters on external keyboards

2015-04-09 Thread Neal Ewers
Hi, thus far, I do not get double letters when I use either my Apple
bluetooth keyboard or Logitech 811 keyboard. My fingers are crossed. Oh,
that in and of itself may result in double letters. Hmmm.

 

Neal

 

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Re: Facebook app now saying product in every story title

2015-04-09 Thread Alan J Paganelli

Yes, I'm getting that as well and yes, it is enoying!




Regards,
Alan
Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your parents? Act now! Move out. 
Get

a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
Please click on:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. I often add files so check back regularly!
The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still
available upon request. Thanks for listening!
-Original Message- 
From: Mary Otten

Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 4:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Facebook app now saying product in every story title

I think this may have started after I upgraded to I OS 8.3. Now, when I go 
through my Facebook feed, every title of an article has the word product in 
it. Is anybody else noticing this? It's kind of annoying. So I hope it can 
be fixed.

Mary


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Re: In braille input mode, how do i know where the keys start?

2015-04-09 Thread Ioana Gandrabur
Hello, 
It appears that, even if one has set typing feedback to characters, they are 
not spoken out in Braille input. It's trial and error but works quite well once 
you get the hang of it. A work around is to type 1 character and backspace with 
left single finger swipe !hear what dots are being inputed. 

Interestingly, there used to be a half baked feature in 8.2 called explore 
mode. 
It is now gone completely if I'm right but gives me hope it's in the works. 
I'll ask accessibility about it. 

About dot calibration you have to start with dots 456 and then follow with 123 
and should then hear Dots calibrated 
Hth, Ioana  



Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 9, 2015, at 8:30 AM, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote:
 
 Hello
 This may sound like a silly question so let me try to explain:
 I’m trying out the braille input mode in iOs8.3 and it appears that i have to 
 have the rotor set to characters in order to know where the actual braille 
 keys begin, right? How else could i determine this without typing trange 
 letters or signs at random? Looks like the keyboard for braille is always 
 there as oposed to the standard keyboard that only pops up when a text field 
 is editable. Also Voiceover tells me to calibrate the braille by moving and 
 then lifting 3 fingers on one hand then 3 on the other, however no matter 
 what i do, braille keyboard seems to be in the same place.
 Sorry for all these questions but i’m new to this part of the iPhone and try 
 to determine if to use it or not.
 /Krister
 
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Re: a very strange download problem when updating the new IOS 8.3

2015-04-09 Thread Les Kriegler
Sorry Jed. I had read a message from Bill earlier and forgot that it was you. 
My apologies.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 9, 2015, at 8:00 AM, Jed Barton jedbar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hey guys,
 
 OK, i don't know whether i should be concerned or what, but i have never seen 
 this before.  I went to settings, and general, and software update to go get 
 the new 8.3.
 When i clicked software update, i flicked right, it said software update 
 heading, then i flicked once more, and all i heard was a click sound, then if 
 i flicked again i heard the bong which means you're at the end of where you 
 can go.  I'd enver had this happen before.  In order to get to the download 
 of the IOS, i had to go all over the screen to find the button to click on. 
 This is a concern, as this has never happened before.  Any ideas, could 
 something be wrong?
 
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Re: Voice Dream Reader and PDF

2015-04-09 Thread Russ Kiehne
I do this with old time radio shows as well, such as: the shadow disc 1.zip. 
I use Itumes file sharing to transfer the zipped files to voice dream 
reader.  Much faster because these files are around 600mb in size.


-Original Message- 
From: Richard Turner

Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 9:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader and PDF

Yes, and yes.
And, if you have a book with multiple files, zip them into one file, name 
the zip file with the Book title.
So long as the files are named so they will be in the correct order, either 
by number or alphabetical.
Put that zip file on Dropbox, or somewhere else that you can download it 
with Voice Dream Reader.
Voice Dream will name the book with the zip file name, and each file will be 
treated as a chapter.

HTH,
Richard





On Apr 8, 2015, at 8:53 AM, kg7...@juno.com kg7...@juno.com wrote:

Hi all, is it possible to use Voice Dream Reader to play MP3 files, and
if so, can you vary the speed of playback, as you can with the BARD app?

Thanks in advanced:
John


John Jacques
Amateur Radio Station: KD8PC
Whare Cat Is, Is civilization!
Robert A Heinlein
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Old School Yearbook Pics
View Class Yearbooks Online Free. Search by School  Year. Look Now!
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Re: a very strange download problem when updating the new IOS 8.3

2015-04-09 Thread brucemb
Hi all.  I had the same problem myself it is real weird.
bruce from new jersey on the computer
  - Original Message - 
  From: Les Kriegler 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2015 8:36 AM
  Subject: Re: a very strange download problem when updating the new IOS 8.3


  Bill, yes, I had the exact same experience. We all need to report this to 
Apple accessibility.

  Sent from my iPhone

   On Apr 9, 2015, at 8:00 AM, Jed Barton jedbar...@gmail.com wrote:
   
   Hey guys,
   
   OK, i don't know whether i should be concerned or what, but i have never 
seen this before.  I went to settings, and general, and software update to go 
get the new 8.3.
   When i clicked software update, i flicked right, it said software update 
heading, then i flicked once more, and all i heard was a click sound, then if i 
flicked again i heard the bong which means you're at the end of where you can 
go.  I'd enver had this happen before.  In order to get to the download of the 
IOS, i had to go all over the screen to find the button to click on. This is a 
concern, as this has never happened before.  Any ideas, could something be 
wrong?
   
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Re: Everyone, What do you consider when choosing a phone?

2015-04-09 Thread Gary Petraccaro
When I bought my iPhone, I first considered price, then whether I could use 
it purely as a phone: overall sound, ease of entering name and phone 
numbers; how easy to dial out; how easy to answer; how easy to enter menu 
choices where that was an issue.  Then came how easy to text message since I 
had a friend who seemed solely to contact people in that matter.  Next came 
the use of aps that were really important to me, which meant Kindle at the 
time, and now which would include Bard and VDR.  If I were to be pushed out 
of an iPhone through obsolescence, those would be the issues determining 
where to go.



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To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 10:22 AM
Subject: Everyone, What do you consider when choosing a phone?


Hi everyone,
Hope you are doing well.
I was wondering, what are some of the things you consider when buying
a phone, either smartphone or basic phone? For example, some people
must choose a phone that has physical keys, some people choose phone
based on what blind-specific apps are on that platform, some people
don't want touchscreen, and of course price.
I'm doing a research and would love to know what are maybe top 5 to 7
things you consider. Just whatever things come to your mind right
away.
And please also kindly share with us what phone you're using now.
It should be interesting to see how we choose our phone differently.
Thanks a lot!
Best,
Phil

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Update: Doubled Letters with external BlueTooth Keyboard

2015-04-09 Thread Chris Smart
With iOS 8.3 on iPhone 6+, Logitech Keys-to-Go keyboard, I sometimes 
get doubled characters when typing.  This appears to be a Voiceover 
related bug, since, if I tell Siri to turn Voiceover off, then turn 
Voiceover back on, the doubled characters go away and things work as 
they should.


Question: In case this happens frequently, is there a touchscreen 
gesture to quickly turn VO off and on?  Three finger triple tap turns 
speech on and off, which is apparently not the same thing.


Chris

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Technology Related Advocacy

2015-04-09 Thread Paul Hunt
Hello Peter. Please tell us how you dropped a note to Tim Cook? I want to 
hold both Apple and Humanware accountable for solving problems with IOS and the 
Brailliant braille displays.
Thanks so much. 

 On Apr 8, 2015, at 8:55 PM, Peter Logan pdlloga...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 After sending a note to Tim Cook asking about the accessibility of the Apple 
 Watch ... here is the answer I got from Phil Schiller.  I appreciate that 
 they got back to me, and in a very timely manner.
  
 Peter, 
 
 Thank you for your question about Apple Watch Accessibility. 
 Yes, we do have support in Apple Watch for accessibility, that information 
 will be posted on apple.com shortly. 
 
 Below are the marketing descriptions of the Accessibility features for Apple 
 Watch. 
 
 Phil 
 
 ——— 
 
 VoiceOver 
 VoiceOver is a gesture-based screen reader that uses the speaker on Apple 
 Watch. It tells you everything that’s happening on the screen and helps you 
 navigate it — even if you can’t see it. VoiceOver on Apple Watch is 
 compatible with built-in apps and is available in all 14 supported languages. 
 
 Font Adjustment 
 Activate Larger Dynamic Type to increase the text size for a range of Apple 
 Watch apps, including Mail, Messages, and Settings — and even some 
 third-party apps — to make it easier to read. You can also choose Bold Text 
 to make the text heavier across built-in apps. 
 
 Zoom 
 With Apple Watch, it’s easy to zoom in on your content by using the Digital 
 Crown to move across the screen by rows. With magnification up to 15 times 
 the native size, Zoom helps you enjoy all that Apple Watch has to offer. 
 
 Grayscale 
 If your vision is impaired by color, Apple Watch lets you enable grayscale 
 onscreen. Once you set the filter, the settings apply systemwide, so you’ll 
 see only shades of gray on the Home screen, apps, and more. 
 
 Extra Large Watch Face 
 Apple Watch has many different faces that you can change and customize. One 
 of them is an extra large watch face — with numbers that take up the entire 
 screen — that makes it easier to view the time. 
 
 Reduce Transparency 
 For features like alerts, Siri, and Glances, you can increase the contrast on 
 your Apple Watch screen by reducing the background transparency. 
 
 On/Off Labels
 To make it easier to see whether a setting is on or off, you can have Apple 
 Watch show an additional label on the on/off switch. 
 
 Reduce Motion 
 When you turn on Reduce Motion, 
 ﰆﰉﰃﰚﰅﰉﰋﰏﰅﰔﰃﰦﰏﰔﰏﰁﰉﰅﰃﰡﰅﰆﰃﰔﰏﰅﰆﰊﰛﰏﰏﰁﰅﰏﰌﰏﰔﰏﰁﰉﰆﰜﰅﰡﰃﰛﰅﰏﰞﰍﰔﰚﰌﰏﰜﰅﰉﰋﰏﰅﰚﰍﰛﰍﰌﰌﰍﰞﰅﰏﰄﰏﰊﰉﰅﰃﰡﰅﰈﰊﰃﰁﰆﰆﰉﰃﰚﰅﰉﰋﰏﰅﰔﰃﰦﰏﰔﰏﰁﰉﰅﰃﰡﰅﰆﰃﰔﰏﰅﰆﰊﰛﰏﰏﰁﰅﰏﰌﰏﰔﰏﰁﰉﰆﰜﰅﰡﰃﰛﰅﰏﰞﰍﰔﰚﰌﰏﰜﰅﰉﰋﰏﰅﰚﰍﰛﰍﰌﰌﰍﰞﰅﰏﰄﰏﰊﰉﰅﰃﰡﰅﰈﰊﰃﰁﰆﰆﰉﰃﰚﰅﰉﰋﰏﰅﰔﰃﰦﰏﰔﰏﰁﰉﰅﰃﰡﰅﰆﰃﰔﰏﰅﰆﰊﰛﰏﰏﰁﰅﰏﰌﰏﰔﰏﰁﰉﰆﰜﰅﰡﰃﰛﰅﰏﰞﰍﰔﰚﰌﰏﰜﰅﰉﰋﰏﰅﰚﰍﰛﰍﰌﰌﰍﰞﰅﰏﰄﰏﰊﰉﰅﰃﰡﰅﰈﰊﰃﰁﰆsome
  screen elements no longer move. For example, the movement of icons on the 
 Home screen will be simpler and more directly associated with your navigation 
 gestures. 
 
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Re: Facebook app now saying product in every story title

2015-04-09 Thread Alan J Paganelli
It matters not what english voice I use, US English, British English etc. 
It's still saying product in face book.





Regards,
Alan
Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your parents? Act now! Move out. 
Get

a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
Please click on:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. I often add files so check back regularly!
The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still
available upon request. Thanks for listening!
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From: Brett

Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2015 1:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Facebook app now saying product in every story title

Hi,

This has always been the case with Alex, except in 8.2 it said dot 
operator and now its Product. Other voices don't have this issue. Well, 
at least not on my phone.


Cheers,
Brett.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Sharonda Greenlaw

Sent: Thursday, 9 April 2015 1:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Facebook app now saying product in every story title

This has always been the case if you were using Alex in 8.2. Now it has come 
to the female voice was well.


Sharonda
Sent from my mobile device; please excuse any mistakes


On Apr 8, 2015, at 7:29 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:

Yes. It is definitely something that came in with 8.3. My fors which has 
the same version of Facebook as my 5S, is still running 8.2. It does not 
have the product issue. Hopefully they will fix it with the next update. 
Or the one after that.

Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 8, 2015, at 6:28 PM, Donna merma...@bellsouth.net wrote:

Hi

Yes, I have the annoying Facebook glitch. It's almost time for an update 
for Facebook. Facebook releases updates every 2 weeks. The last update 
was on Mar. 26th. Hopefully with the next update this glitch will be 
resolved.


Donna


I think this may have started after I upgraded to I OS 8.3. Now, when I 
go through my Facebook feed, every title of an article has the word 
product in it. Is anybody else noticing this? It's kind of annoying. So 
I hope it can be fixed.

Mary


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Trust Or Not To Trust, That Is the Question!

2015-04-09 Thread Fazil
Hi.

When I charge my Iphone5 via the computer, the system asks me whether I
trust that computer.

What would happen if I say I don't trust?

Would my phone still be charged?

Thanks!

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Re: Family sharing questions.

2015-04-09 Thread Jennie Facer
Hi,
In app purchases are not covered by family sharing. Those are purchased per 
Apple ID. 

Jenn and Kumi




On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 1:09 PM -0700, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com 
wrote:










Unless Apple just changed the policy, it is 6 total people, the Organizer and 5 
more.
If the app says that Family Purchase is Yes in the app store description, then 
in-app purchases should be covered. Exactly how that works I'm not sure.
I'd recommend calling Apple Accessibility and asking them to clarify.
Richard




 On Apr 9, 2015, at 9:28 AM, Mária Orovčíková  wrote:
 
 Hello Isaac and all,
 thank you very much for the info.
 I have one more question. What if a certain app requires in-app purchase?
 Once I do in-app purchase and other members will get the app, will they have 
 in-app purchase included or each member must do in-app purchase?
 Thank you for help.
 With kind regards
 Maria
 On 9. 4. 2015 18:09, Isaac Hebert wrote:
 Family sharing allows you and six other people with you being the organizer 
 to share  iTunes app store and ibook store purchases with each other.
 What I mean is you can share movies music books apps with each other.
 You will be the organizer so if they make a purchases not from the purchases 
 section under family but if they purchase an app from the app store that 
 requires payment it will be charged to your account.
 In other words you will be paying for every one's purchase that is a part of 
  family sharing.
 If some one wants to download an app  that you have already purchased then 
 they have to go to for  example iTunes purchased content go to iTunes  
 choose more and then choose purchased and then they  have to double tap one 
 of the  name of the family member's purchases  they want to view.
 If they want to view app store purchases then they have to go to app store.
 Then go to updates.
 Then go to purchased.
 Then double tap the name of the family members purchases they want to view.
 Another thing is that with family sharing you also get a family calendar as 
 well wheir you can keep up with family events.
 There is more to family sharing but that should give you a little bit of how 
 family sharing works.
 Here is a link to more info about family sharing.
 https://www.apple.com/ios/whats-new/family-sharing/
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Apr 8, 2015, at 7:34 PM, Mária Orovčíková  wrote:
 

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Re: a very strange download problem when updating the new IOS 8.3

2015-04-09 Thread christopher hallsworth
I've had this throughout the beta cycle and never thought to report it. It's 
just one of those issues that can be easily dealt with. Touch the screen until 
you find the appropriate controls then one finger double tap.
 On 9 Apr 2015, at 13:00, Jed Barton jedbar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hey guys,
 
 OK, i don't know whether i should be concerned or what, but i have never seen 
 this before.  I went to settings, and general, and software update to go get 
 the new 8.3.
 When i clicked software update, i flicked right, it said software update 
 heading, then i flicked once more, and all i heard was a click sound, then if 
 i flicked again i heard the bong which means you're at the end of where you 
 can go.  I'd enver had this happen before.  In order to get to the download 
 of the IOS, i had to go all over the screen to find the button to click on. 
 This is a concern, as this has never happened before.  Any ideas, could 
 something be wrong?
 
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RE: Apple Watch and accessibility

2015-04-09 Thread SSEric
For the past week, many tech writers have had an Apple Watch for review ahead 
of the release. I have not heard of anyone being given advanced access to the 
Watch to talk about it in terms of accessibility. This seems like a gross 
oversight somewhere.

 

Eric

 

 

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Peter Logan
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 9:55 PM
To: Vi Phone
Subject: Apple Watch and accessibility

 

After sending a note to Tim Cook asking about the accessibility of the Apple 
Watch ... here is the answer I got from Phil Schiller.  I appreciate that they 
got back to me, and in a very timely manner.

 

Peter, 

Thank you for your question about Apple Watch Accessibility. 
Yes, we do have support in Apple Watch for accessibility, that information will 
be posted on apple.com shortly. 

Below are the marketing descriptions of the Accessibility features for Apple 
Watch. 

Phil 

——— 

VoiceOver 
VoiceOver is a gesture-based screen reader that uses the speaker on Apple 
Watch. It tells you everything that’s happening on the screen and helps you 
navigate it — even if you can’t see it. VoiceOver on Apple Watch is compatible 
with built-in apps and is available in all 14 supported languages. 

Font Adjustment 
Activate Larger Dynamic Type to increase the text size for a range of Apple 
Watch apps, including Mail, Messages, and Settings — and even some third-party 
apps — to make it easier to read. You can also choose Bold Text to make the 
text heavier across built-in apps. 

Zoom 
With Apple Watch, it’s easy to zoom in on your content by using the Digital 
Crown to move across the screen by rows. With magnification up to 15 times the 
native size, Zoom helps you enjoy all that Apple Watch has to offer. 

Grayscale 
If your vision is impaired by color, Apple Watch lets you enable grayscale 
onscreen. Once you set the filter, the settings apply systemwide, so you’ll see 
only shades of gray on the Home screen, apps, and more. 

Extra Large Watch Face 
Apple Watch has many different faces that you can change and customize. One of 
them is an extra large watch face — with numbers that take up the entire screen 
— that makes it easier to view the time. 

Reduce Transparency 
For features like alerts, Siri, and Glances, you can increase the contrast on 
your Apple Watch screen by reducing the background transparency. 

On/Off Labels
To make it easier to see whether a setting is on or off, you can have Apple 
Watch show an additional label on the on/off switch. 

Reduce Motion 
When you turn on Reduce Motion, 
ﰆﰉﰃﰚﰅﰉﰋﰏﰅﰔﰃﰦﰏﰔﰏﰁﰉﰅﰃﰡﰅﰆﰃﰔﰏﰅﰆﰊﰛﰏﰏﰁﰅﰏﰌﰏﰔﰏﰁﰉﰆﰜﰅﰡﰃﰛﰅﰏﰞﰍﰔﰚﰌﰏﰜﰅﰉﰋﰏﰅﰚﰍﰛﰍﰌﰌﰍﰞﰅﰏﰄﰏﰊﰉﰅﰃﰡﰅﰈﰊﰃﰁﰆﰆﰉﰃﰚﰅﰉﰋﰏﰅﰔﰃﰦﰏﰔﰏﰁﰉﰅﰃﰡﰅﰆﰃﰔﰏﰅﰆﰊﰛﰏﰏﰁﰅﰏﰌﰏﰔﰏﰁﰉﰆﰜﰅﰡﰃﰛﰅﰏﰞﰍﰔﰚﰌﰏﰜﰅﰉﰋﰏﰅﰚﰍﰛﰍﰌﰌﰍﰞﰅﰏﰄﰏﰊﰉﰅﰃﰡﰅﰈﰊﰃﰁﰆﰆﰉﰃﰚﰅﰉﰋﰏﰅﰔﰃﰦﰏﰔﰏﰁﰉﰅﰃﰡﰅﰆﰃﰔﰏﰅﰆﰊﰛﰏﰏﰁﰅﰏﰌﰏﰔﰏﰁﰉﰆﰜﰅﰡﰃﰛﰅﰏﰞﰍﰔﰚﰌﰏﰜﰅﰉﰋﰏﰅﰚﰍﰛﰍﰌﰌﰍﰞﰅﰏﰄﰏﰊﰉﰅﰃﰡﰅﰈﰊﰃﰁﰆsome
 screen elements no longer move. For example, the movement of icons on the Home 
screen will be simpler and more directly associated with your navigation 
gestures. 

——— 

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Re: A Question About The New Emoji Keyboard in iOS 8.3

2015-04-09 Thread Christina
I cannot find all of the symbols. I also cannot figure out how to bring up the 
different skin tones. Before, there were multiple pages of symbols per 
category, now I can only find one page per category, and I am also doing 
something that keeps bringing me back to The recently used symbols.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 9, 2015, at 7:43 AM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I read an article about the new symbols in the emojy keyboard, and
 there are many more symbols and variations for different ethnic and
 ratial groups, along with a few other additions I'm sure. I looked at
 the emojy keyboard earlier briefly, and it seemed that there were 4
 lines of symbols where before there were 3. Also, VoiceOver was more
 descriptive in reading each symbol. For example, instead of saying
 face with clenching teeth, it said grinning face with clenching teeth.
 I found other instances of that on the symbols that I use most often.
 
 Wayne
 
 On 4/8/15, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote:
 This is from the changes list:
 Other improvements and bug fixes
 ·Introduces a redesigned Emoji keyboard with over 300 new
 characters
 
 I'm not sure why Apple would say there are over 300 new characters but
 actually have less.
 Richard
 
 
 
 
 On Apr 8, 2015, at 8:06 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:
 
 Hello Donna,
 
 Thank you for your reply.
 
 I gleamed this new layout but, still, to me, it seems as though there are
 fewer symbols.
 
 Oh well, it is what it is.
 
 Thank you for confirming the new layout.
 
 Mark
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Donna
 Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 7:02 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: A Question About The New Emoji Keyboard in iOS 8.3
 
 Hi
 
 I have to say that I hate the emoji keyboard!! Here is how the emoji
 keyboard is laid out now. There are now 8 categories of emoji's. The tabs
 are along the bottom. A few new emoji's have been added. The reason it
 seems as though that there is less is because each of the individual
 categories are no longer listed in pages per category. There is now one
 long list of emoji's with no clear division of each category. To make his
 clearer, if you choose the People tab, you are now able to swipe through
 all of the categories without choosing the next category tab.
 
 Donna
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 You know, I was going to update my 5 S from 8.2 to 8.3 just after I
 updated my 6 Plus to 8.3.
 
 Then, for whatever reason, I decided to hold off and do a little
 comparison of various features.
 
 I'm sitting here fiddling with the new Emoji keyboard and, from my
 perspective, there does not appear to be as many symbols as in 8.2.
 
 I realize that I must be missing something but, for the life of me, I
 cannot figure out what it is.
 
 In 8.2, when using the Emoji keyboard, there are several tabs at the
 bottom of the keyboard.  Above the keyboard, there are sub-pages
 listed as page 1, page 2, etc.  The pages at the top offer more
 symbols that exist in the category that is selected at the bottom.
 
 Now, in 8.3, as far as I can tell, there are no sub-pages per category
 but rather 20-pages, altogether.
 
 Of course I realize that some of the symbols now offer varying skin
 tones that may be accessed by a double-tap and hold but, even with
 this, from my perspective, there seems to be fewer symbols from which to
 choose.
 
 Perhaps there is a new gesture I'm missing or something.
 
 I would appreciate any feedback on this as I am a little confused.
 
 Mark
 
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Re: Facebook app now saying product in every story title

2015-04-09 Thread Patti Johnson
When a notification comes in for me on facebook it says photo 
afterwords.  I have a 4 S. I have not updated to the 8.3 yet.

PattiOn 4/8/2015 10:29 PM, Mary Otten wrote:

Yes. It is definitely something that came in with 8.3. My fors which has the same version 
of Facebook as my 5S, is still running 8.2. It does not have the product 
issue. Hopefully they will fix it with the next update. Or the one after that.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 8, 2015, at 6:28 PM, Donna merma...@bellsouth.net wrote:

Hi

Yes, I have the annoying Facebook glitch. It's almost time for an update for 
Facebook. Facebook releases updates every 2 weeks. The last update was on Mar. 
26th. Hopefully with the next update this glitch will be resolved.

Donna

I think this may have started after I upgraded to I OS 8.3. Now, when I go 
through my Facebook feed, every title of an article has the word product in it. 
Is anybody else noticing this? It's kind of annoying. So I hope it can be fixed.
Mary


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Re: I think they fixed double letters on external keyboards

2015-04-09 Thread Chris Smart

Hi Neal.
Actually I've had it happen twice since the 8.3 update, and never 
before.  The first time (last night) rebooting the phone solved the 
problem.  Today when it happened, I told Siri to turn Voiceover off, 
then back on, and the problem went away.  So, it appears to be 
Voiceover related.


I'll post more if it happens again.

Chris

At 02:26 PM 4/9/2015, you wrote:
Hi, thus far, I do not get double letters when I use either my Apple 
bluetooth keyboard or Logitech 811 keyboard. My fingers are crossed. 
Oh, that in and of itself may result in double letters. Hmmm.


Neal


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Re: iOS 8.3 performance on older devices

2015-04-09 Thread RobH.
Can we add the iPad Mini Mk1, and how or if, this can take the latest 
version, and how well?

Thanks, RobH.
- Original Message - 
From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2015 4:06 PM
Subject: Re: iOS 8.3 performance on older devices


I don't notice any degradation in performance on my 4S moving from IOS
8.2 to 8.3. As discussed previously on this list, performance increased
markedly in one of the earlier dot releases of IOS 8, and in my
experience, it hasn't regressed since then.


On 04/09/2015 10:00 AM, Cristóbal wrote:
 Hello list,

 A question for those who are using older iPhones and iPads. I was
 curious to know what sort of performance folks are experiencing with
 this latest iOS 8.3 update. If it’s by any chance snappier in general
 than prior 8.0 versions or if it at least doesn’t slow the device down
 any more? My wife’es got a 4S that I plan on taking over from her for a
 second line once we upgrade my phone, but on the times I do use her
 phone, I notice that it’s really showing it’s age as far as sluggishness
 and responsiveness with Voiceover. She’s sighted and has an iPad anyway
 so performance as a whole on the phone is no big deal for her, but as I
 want to use it, I’d like an idea of what I can come to expect. As a
 second line, I don’t’ plan on using but the most basic apps for
 communication so video or audio streaming or games won’t be a concern.
 My guess is that 8.3 will probably be the last so called big update for
 the 4S but for possible bug fix type of updates. So whatever it is now,
 it will be. We’ve also got an old iPad 2 floating around here that’s
 getting long in the tooth that I’d like to update if it won’t slow it
 down any further.

 Anyway, hopefully those who have had a chance to play with it on their
 4S or even iPad 2 can provide their observations/feedback.

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Re: Trust Or Not To Trust, That Is the Question!

2015-04-09 Thread Mary Otten
Yes, your phone will charge. I do that all the time when I plug my 5S in to a 
PC, which is not where I back up my phone. So I don't wanted messing with 
iTunes there. The phone charges just fine.
Mary


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 When I charge my Iphone5 via the computer, the system asks me whether I trust 
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 What would happen if I say I don’t trust?
 Would my phone still be charged?
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Re: Is there an issue with the latest DropBox update?

2015-04-09 Thread Wayne Merritt
What problems is he having? I suppose it depends on what you are
wanting to do, but I haven't had any issues with the latest Dropbox. I
usually use it when going through files on my Braille display, and
when working on files on my Windows 7 laptop. Your milage may vary.

Wayne

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   A friend says he is having problems. I have not updated DropBox and
 am not having any difficulties. So, before I do update, I thought I would
 ask...

 Thanks!

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RE: Trust Or Not To Trust, That Is the Question!

2015-04-09 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I assume it will be charged, but you won’t be able to sync with iTunes or do a 
backup to iTunes. If it’s your own computer there is no reason why you 
shouldn’t tap on “Trust”, if you ar using somebody elses computer just to 
charge then using the same reasoning it won’t hurt to say “Don’t trust”.

 

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Subject: Trust Or Not To Trust, That Is the Question!

 

Hi.

When I charge my Iphone5 via the computer, the system asks me whether I trust 
that computer.

What would happen if I say I don’t trust?

Would my phone still be charged?

Thanks!

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RE: Facebook app now saying product in every story title

2015-04-09 Thread Brett
Hi,

This has always been the case with Alex, except in 8.2 it said dot operator 
and now its Product. Other voices don't have this issue. Well, at least not 
on my phone.

Cheers,
Brett.


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Subject: Re: Facebook app now saying product in every story title

This has always been the case if you were using Alex in 8.2. Now it has come to 
the female voice was well.  

Sharonda
Sent from my mobile device; please excuse any mistakes 

 On Apr 8, 2015, at 7:29 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Yes. It is definitely something that came in with 8.3. My fors which has the 
 same version of Facebook as my 5S, is still running 8.2. It does not have the 
 product issue. Hopefully they will fix it with the next update. Or the one 
 after that.
 Mary
 
 
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 On Apr 8, 2015, at 6:28 PM, Donna merma...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 Hi
 
 Yes, I have the annoying Facebook glitch. It's almost time for an update for 
 Facebook. Facebook releases updates every 2 weeks. The last update was on 
 Mar. 26th. Hopefully with the next update this glitch will be resolved. 
 
 Donna
 
 I think this may have started after I upgraded to I OS 8.3. Now, when I go 
 through my Facebook feed, every title of an article has the word product in 
 it. Is anybody else noticing this? It's kind of annoying. So I hope it can 
 be fixed.
 Mary
 
 
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Character feedback possible after all in braille

2015-04-09 Thread Ioana Gandrabur
In a previous Message I had stated that it is not possible to get character 
feedback using braille but was wrong about it. 

Here is how it works: 

If setting to speak characters and words is set in vo settings, it works in 
uncontracted braille. 

So, before typing make sure with 3 finger swipe right that you are in this mode 
and it will work. 

Best,


Ioana
  
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Re: Update: Doubled Letters with external BlueTooth Keyboard

2015-04-09 Thread Alex Hall
If you configure it in Settings  General  Accessibility  Accessibility 
Shortcut, you can triple click the Home button to toggle VoiceOver on or off. I 
have also seen this chracter repeat bug, but I haven't yet done enough with a 
bluetooth keyboard (I only just found I still have one) to figure out just what 
the problem is or how to fix it. I'll try toggling VO to see if that 
helps--thanks for the tip.
 On Apr 9, 2015, at 12:53 PM, Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca wrote:
 
 With iOS 8.3 on iPhone 6+, Logitech Keys-to-Go keyboard, I sometimes get 
 doubled characters when typing.  This appears to be a Voiceover related bug, 
 since, if I tell Siri to turn Voiceover off, then turn Voiceover back on, the 
 doubled characters go away and things work as they should.
 
 Question: In case this happens frequently, is there a touchscreen gesture to 
 quickly turn VO off and on?  Three finger triple tap turns speech on and off, 
 which is apparently not the same thing.
 
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Re: iOS 8.3 performance on older devices

2015-04-09 Thread Angie Nutt
Hi

I updated this iPad 2 this afternoon. Have only tried email and so far it's 
working well.

All the best
Angie

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 On 9 Apr 2015, at 16:00, Cristóbal crismuno...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello list,
  
 A question for those who are using older iPhones and iPads. I was curious to 
 know what sort of performance folks are experiencing with this latest iOS 8.3 
 update. If it’s by any chance snappier in general than prior 8.0 versions or 
 if it at least doesn’t slow the device down any more? My wife’es got a 4S 
 that I plan on taking over from her for a second line once we upgrade my 
 phone, but on the times I do use her phone, I notice that it’s really showing 
 it’s age as far as sluggishness and responsiveness with Voiceover. She’s 
 sighted and has an iPad anyway so performance as a whole on the phone is no 
 big deal for her, but as I want to use it, I’d like an idea of what I can 
 come to expect. As a second line, I don’t’ plan on using but the most basic 
 apps for communication so video or audio streaming or games won’t be a 
 concern. My guess is that 8.3 will probably be the last so called big update 
 for the 4S but for possible bug fix type of updates. So whatever it is now, 
 it will be. We’ve also got an old iPad 2 floating around here that’s getting 
 long in the tooth that I’d like to update if it won’t slow it down any 
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 Anyway, hopefully those who have had a chance to play with it on their 4S or 
 even iPad 2 can provide their observations/feedback.
  
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Re: Voiceover and Statistics

2015-04-09 Thread Wayne Merritt
With all due respect, are you sure this is an Apple thing and not
something related to those specific apps? Have you noticed it with
other apps, or just these two?

Wayne

On 4/8/15, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 Hey all. Now that I'm not required to keep my mouth shut about iOS 8.3 due
 to an NDA, I've noticed something strange with Voiceover when it comes to
 reading statistics in an app. I'll give you two examples of what I mean. In
 Sports Alerts before iOS 8.3, it would read your teams name, then read their
 record, like for example, Hawks, 59, 19, then the team that they're playing
 plus their record, and then the time. Now in iOS 8.3, Voiceover reads it
 like this: Hornets, Hawks, 59, 19, 33, 45, 6:30 PM.
 Another example of Voiceover's weird statistic reading is in Trivia Crack.
 Before iOS 8.3, it would say the current score of a game you're playing,
 then read who you're playing against, then they're level. Now in iOS 8.3, it
 reads your opponent's level, then their name, then how long you have left to
 play, and then the score last.
 Has anyone else experienced this weird reading of statistics in iOS 8.3? Do
 you think this is a bug or did Apple do this on purpose?

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Re: 8.3 UPDATE ... ANYONE ELSE NOTICED ...

2015-04-09 Thread RobH.
The outside calling is a good tip, and I have more than enough previous 
phones to do it myself with. Somethings I sell on, others I just don't for 
some reason.
I know I have 4 with live simms with credit, plus odd ones in drawers rather 
forgotten, but work if I  deal with them.

I'll wait a bit for the upgrade, it is a bit hair-raising when you can't 
check how far it's got.

The first thing I'd like to know with this update, is how responsive the 
end-call method is.  I know it had been an issue and still is on my 5S.

Thanks, RobH.
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Subject: 8.3 UPDATE ... ANYONE ELSE NOTICED ...


Hi all,

Well, sighs of relief here as I discover my 4S has finally come back to life 
... but it wasn't as usual.

I upgraded to 8.3 over Wifi, without using iTunes, as I just hate it ...  I 
got the prompts to accept and waited, but things were obviously very busy 
with everyone upgrading and I never got any vocal feedback that anything was 
happening.  Some while later I heard a few noises coming from VoiceOver, but 
they were only tiny fragments of words ... and then another silence.  I was 
unable to determine exactly what was happening, but left well alone, had a 
cuppa etc.

I got back to my phone, gently flicked a finger across and got nothing ... 
so wondered.  I determined that I'd just sit it out and wait, if needed, for 
a friend to call by in the morning to ascertain what she could see on the 
screen.  Then my husband said, Shall I call you and find out if your phone 
responds?  I decided it couldn't hurt, since anyone could have called me 
during this upgrade period ... so he did.  The phone rang, VoiceOver spoke 
and - finally - somehow - we're back in business again.

Well, it wasn't as sstraightforward as most I've known but, well, that idea 
to call me was sure worth it!  Smiles

Now I can go and play ...

Carol P

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Re: iOS 8.3 performance on older devices

2015-04-09 Thread christopher hallsworth
iOS 8.3 is definitely very snappy on my 4s. The release notes do mention 
improvements in performance such as opening of apps and so on. Also, a lot of 
the VoiceOver related bugs we have come to live with since iOS 8.0 has been 
fixed, particularly the back button in Safari and general fixes to Braille 
including Braille Screen Input.
 On 9 Apr 2015, at 16:00, Cristóbal crismuno...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello list,
  
 A question for those who are using older iPhones and iPads. I was curious to 
 know what sort of performance folks are experiencing with this latest iOS 8.3 
 update. If it’s by any chance snappier in general than prior 8.0 versions or 
 if it at least doesn’t slow the device down any more? My wife’es got a 4S 
 that I plan on taking over from her for a second line once we upgrade my 
 phone, but on the times I do use her phone, I notice that it’s really showing 
 it’s age as far as sluggishness and responsiveness with Voiceover. She’s 
 sighted and has an iPad anyway so performance as a whole on the phone is no 
 big deal for her, but as I want to use it, I’d like an idea of what I can 
 come to expect. As a second line, I don’t’ plan on using but the most basic 
 apps for communication so video or audio streaming or games won’t be a 
 concern. My guess is that 8.3 will probably be the last so called big update 
 for the 4S but for possible bug fix type of updates. So whatever it is now, 
 it will be. We’ve also got an old iPad 2 floating around here that’s getting 
 long in the tooth that I’d like to update if it won’t slow it down any 
 further.
  
 Anyway, hopefully those who have had a chance to play with it on their 4S or 
 even iPad 2 observations/feedback.
  
 Thanks,
 
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Re: Facebook app now saying product in every story title

2015-04-09 Thread Alan J Paganelli

It appeared with 8.3.




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Subject: RE: Facebook app now saying product in every story title

Hello,

Try as I may, I cannot reproduce this bug.

I have tried reproducing it in virtually every area of my Facebook app but, 
alas, it's reading everything fine.


Mark

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Subject: Re: Facebook app now saying product in every story title

Hi

Yes, I have the annoying Facebook glitch. It's almost time for an update for 
Facebook. Facebook releases updates every 2 weeks. The last update was on 
Mar. 26th. Hopefully with the next update this glitch will be resolved.


Donna


I think this may have started after I upgraded to I OS 8.3. Now, when I go 
through my Facebook feed, every title of an article has the word product 
in it. Is anybody else noticing this? It's kind of annoying. So I hope it 
can be fixed.

Mary


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Re: IBook search feature no longer working after 8.3 update.

2015-04-09 Thread Feliciano Godoy
Hi,
Aorks perfectly for me on iOS 8.3 iPhone5.


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 Hi all.
 I updated to 8.3 yeayesterday and now the search feature... in the search tab 
 no longer works with vo. 
 Anyone have the same experience? 
 y 
 
 Jenifer Barr
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Re: In braille input mode, how do i know where the keys start?

2015-04-09 Thread Chris Smart
Yes, thanks Alex! Braille input is one of the things I haven't tried 
yet with my relatively new iPhone. Much appreciated!


At 09:54 AM 4/9/2015, you wrote:

Alex, Thank you for this comprehensive set of instructions. They are
perfect! I had tried the braille input a few times since I upgraded to
IOS 8 (and above), but gave up in frustration. After reading your
instructions (and following along), I was successful right away. You
are a born teacher!
Penny

On 4/9/15, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 Character echo does work, but only in 6 dot mode. If you use contracted
 braille, dots are not spoken as you type. I use word feedback so I can hear
 what I've written when I do the space gesture. Explore Mode is working as
 expected here, I'm not sure why yours isn't.
 On Apr 9, 2015, at 8:59 AM, Ioana Gandrabur igandra...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,
 It appears that, even if one has set typing feedback to characters, they
 are not spoken out in Braille input. It's trial and error but works quite
 well once you get the hang of it. A work around is to type 1 character and
 backspace with left single finger swipe !hear what dots are being inputed.


 Interestingly, there used to be a half baked feature in 8.2 called explore
 mode.
 It is now gone completely if I'm right but gives me hope it's in the
 works.
 I'll ask accessibility about it.

 About dot calibration you have to start with dots 456 and then follow with
 123 and should then hear Dots calibrated
 Hth, Ioana



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 Hello
 This may sound like a silly question so let me try to explain:
 I'm trying out the braille input mode in iOs8.3 and it appears that i
 have to have the rotor set to characters in order to know where the
 actual braille keys begin, right? How else could i determine this without
 typing trange letters or signs at random? Looks like the keyboard for
 braille is always there as oposed to the standard keyboard that only pops
 up when a text field is editable. Also Voiceover tells me to calibrate
 the braille by moving and then lifting 3 fingers on one hand then 3 on
 the other, however no matter what i do, braille keyboard seems to be in
 the same place.
 Sorry for all these questions but i'm new to this part of the iPhone and
 try to determine if to use it or not.
 /Krister

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Re: Family sharing questions.

2015-04-09 Thread Isaac Hebert
I am not sure about in app purchases.

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 wrote:
 
 Hello Isaac and all,
 thank you very much for the info.
 I have one more question. What if a certain app requires in-app purchase?
 Once I do in-app purchase and other members will get the app, will they have 
 in-app purchase included or each member must do in-app purchase?
 Thank you for help.
 With kind regards
 Maria
 On 9. 4. 2015 18:09, Isaac Hebert wrote:
 Family sharing allows you and six other people with you being the organizer 
 to share  iTunes app store and ibook store purchases with each other.
 What I mean is you can share movies music books apps with each other.
 You will be the organizer so if they make a purchases not from the purchases 
 section under family but if they purchase an app from the app store that 
 requires payment it will be charged to your account.
 In other words you will be paying for every one's purchase that is a part of 
  family sharing.
 If some one wants to download an app  that you have already purchased then 
 they have to go to for  example iTunes purchased content go to iTunes  
 choose more and then choose purchased and then they  have to double tap one 
 of the  name of the family member's purchases  they want to view.
 If they want to view app store purchases then they have to go to app store.
 Then go to updates.
 Then go to purchased.
 Then double tap the name of the family members purchases they want to view.
 Another thing is that with family sharing you also get a family calendar as 
 well wheir you can keep up with family events.
 There is more to family sharing but that should give you a little bit of how 
 family sharing works.
 Here is a link to more info about family sharing.
 https://www.apple.com/ios/whats-new/family-sharing/
 
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 mailto:maria.orovcik...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello list,
 I have some questions about family sharing feature:
 1. At first would anyone, please, describe how does it work?
 2. In case I will setup Family sharing how many people can be invited?
 3. Let's say I will purchase an app, how will other people know that they 
 can download the app and is it completely free for them?
 4. In case I will purchase an app that requires in-app purchase (such as 
 Diceworld, triviacrack etc), each member must do in-app purchase or is it 
 included in family sharing feature?
 5. Is it possible to add previously purchased apps and make them available 
 for family sharing?
 6. Can I purchase an app just for myself that will not be included in 
 family sharing or once I setup family sharing every single app will be 
 included?
 Sorry for all these questions, but I am very new with IOS 8 and thinking 
 about setting up family sharing.
 I hope my mail makes sense.
 Thank youfor your help in advance.
 With kind regards
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Re: a very strange download problem when updating the new IOS 8.3

2015-04-09 Thread jazzyjennifer
hi there, yeah i had that same problem. then when i finaly found the 
download button, it said download button dimmed. after i clicked on 
download and agreed to everything, it said downloading dimed. so i had 
to get out of settings and re open it and go back under general. then 
soft ware up date and everything up dated right. installing this up 
date. was very intresting.


On 4/9/2015 8:00 AM, Jed Barton wrote:

Hey guys,

OK, i don't know whether i should be concerned or what, but i have 
never seen this before.  I went to settings, and general, and software 
update to go get the new 8.3.
When i clicked software update, i flicked right, it said software 
update heading, then i flicked once more, and all i heard was a click 
sound, then if i flicked again i heard the bong which means you're at 
the end of where you can go.  I'd enver had this happen before.  In 
order to get to the download of the IOS, i had to go all over the 
screen to find the button to click on. This is a concern, as this has 
never happened before.  Any ideas, could something be wrong?




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Re: a very strange download problem when updating the new IOS 8.3

2015-04-09 Thread Chris Smart
Personally, I had no psychological distress simply exploring the 
screen for the download button.

It is a very small screen after all.

At 08:00 AM 4/9/2015, you wrote:

Hey guys,

OK, i don't know whether i should be concerned or what, but i have 
never seen this before.  I went to settings, and general, and 
software update to go get the new 8.3.
When i clicked software update, i flicked right, it said software 
update heading, then i flicked once more, and all i heard was a 
click sound, then if i flicked again i heard the bong which means 
you're at the end of where you can go.  I'd enver had this happen 
before.  In order to get to the download of the IOS, i had to go all 
over the screen to find the button to click on. This is a concern, 
as this has never happened before.  Any ideas, could something be wrong?


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RE: iOS 8.3 is out!

2015-04-09 Thread Chris Smart

yep, worked fine here over Wifi with phone plugged in.

At 10:59 PM 4/8/2015, you wrote:
I was pleasantly surprised with my wifi updating 
experience. Took a total of maybe fifteen 
minutes. I usually do it via the PC, but this 
time I was too lazy to turn the computer on and 
launch iTunes etc. Don’t think I’ll make a 
habit out of updating over wifi, but at least 
this time for me, no problems and everything 
from the download to the installation to the 
phone turning back on was relatively quick.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran

Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 5:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS 8.3 is out!

I'm actually going to wait till it prompts me 
that it's downloaded and ready to install. I 
find that I get too anxious if I try to force the download too early. :)


Teresa

Winging its way from my iPod

On Apr 8, 2015, at 5:03 PM, Brent Harding 
mailto:br...@hostany.netbr...@hostany.net wrote:

It took quite a long time.
- Original Message -
From: mailto:carol.pearso...@googlemail.comcarol.pearso...@googlemail.com
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.comviphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: iOS 8.3 is out!

Mine started the update and I'm wondering if 
it's actually failed this time.  Silence is, well, not golden!  Smiles


Carol P

- Original Message -
From: mailto:alanandsuza...@earthlink.netAlan J Paganelli
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.comviphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 10:25 PM
Subject: iOS 8.3 is out!

The subject line says it all.  I now have 8.3 on 
both my iPhone 5s and my iPad Air.  Off to check out the goodies!


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Re: 8.3 and moving apps

2015-04-09 Thread carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Yep, it's brilliant.  I moved several apps around in just a couple of mins, 
when it was taking me forever before!  What a relief!


Carol P

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I'm glad to say that the problem of moving apps in the bottom row above the 
Dock is gone in iOS 8.3.
Things also seem improved in overall responsiveness, which is a hard thing 
to clarify.

So far, so good with 8.3 on a 5S.
Richard



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Re: the install button not showing when trying to update to ios 8.3

2015-04-09 Thread Matthew Dyer

Hi,

I had to explore with my finger to find it.  Just a thought.

Matthew


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On 04/08/2015 07:13 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
Sorry if this is obvious, but on my iPhone 4S, I can't get to the 
download and install button by flicking to it; I have to find it by 
exploring the screen. I'm not sure if this is what you're running into 
or not.


On 04/08/2015 05:40 PM, Larry Lumpkin wrote:

I got my ipad air updated successfully but the install button never
shows when trying to update my 5s.  Settings informs me I have one new
item and the update screen comes up but the more info button or install
button never show up.

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Re: Latest IOS update?

2015-04-09 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Wayne, it may take some days for the badge to update, depending on when the 
phone checks for updates, but if you check manually, it's there at the same 
time for everyone.
A few of my clients were tripped up yesterday by the fact that there is a focus 
issue in the iOS 8.2 updates screen. So some people aren't finding any 
reference to the update when they flick through the screen. If you explore the 
screen by touching it though, people eventually find that the update is indeed 
there.
Jonathan Mosen
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Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org

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 Give it time. I've noticed sometimes when the updates come out, my
 phone doesn't see them immediately. If I wait a few days it will show
 in Settings. I know this because if an update is there VoiceOver will
 say, Settings, 1 item, where that 1 item is the update.
 
 Patience,
 Wayne
 
 On 4/8/15, Kim Samco ksa...@me.com wrote:
 Thanks Mary.  I'm sure it's personal andthey hate me.  grin
 
 Hope you're well!
 
 Kim
 
 
 
 On Apr 8, 2015, at 6:13 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Kim,
 I did not get an official notification that the update was available and
 have been downloaded. I just opened settings, general, software update.
 And it looked and found the update for both my iPhone 5s and my iPad mini.
 I am rather surprised, if you do that, that you're not getting the
 opportunity to download and install the update. Very strange.
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Apr 8, 2015, at 5:56 PM, Kim Samco ksa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hello again,
 
 I've been following the threads about the latest update.  I don't seem to
 have any notification of it.  I looked at the updates in settings and
 nothing is there,  I've noticed that I've been behind with other updates
 as well.  Do they send out notification/links in batches?
 
 I'm just curious.
 
 Kim
 
 
 
 
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Is there an issue with the latest DropBox update?

2015-04-09 Thread SSEric
A friend says he is having problems. I have not updated DropBox and
am not having any difficulties. So, before I do update, I thought I would
ask...

Thanks!

Eric


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Re: Trust Or Not To Trust, That Is the Question!

2015-04-09 Thread David Chittenden
Yes, in my experience, the iPhone will charge when not to trust the computer is 
selected.

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Sent from my iPhone

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 Probably not, and doubt you'd get the option again to negate it. I did that 
 with an mp3 player, rendering it useless.
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 Hi.
 
 When I charge my Iphone5 via the computer, the system asks me whether I
 trust that computer.
 
 What would happen if I say I don't trust?
 
 Would my phone still be charged?
 
 Thanks!
 
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Re: Whose ordering the Apple watch?

2015-04-09 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Except that the watch will also interact with your phone over wifi thus 
giving you much greater range than just using a bluetooth headset with 
your phone, so not exactly no advantage at all.


On 04/09/2015 10:16 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Yes, but if you use a bluetooth headset then there is 0 advantage to the watch 
since the bluetooth headset works just the same with the phone directly.


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Subject: RE: Whose ordering the Apple watch?

Hi, yes, the watch has a speaker, and calls taken on the watch behave like 
using a speaker phone. Of course you can use a BlueTooth headset in addition to 
the watch if concerned about privacy. That is what I've surmised from reading 
various reviews anyhow.



Best regards,

Rick Alfaro

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Hi Rick,

Am I right to assume that all calls you take on your watch will be with open 
speaker and therefore, not private?  If I'm on a bus, restaurant or any other 
public place, I don't really like the idea of people around me hearing the 
other end of the conversation, so short as it may be.  I've been using a cell 
phone for 25 years and it took me a long time even to accept the idea of 
answering my phone in public.  Maybe that's because there weren't very many 
cell phones around and too many people who had them talked as loud as they 
could so that everyone around realized they were important enough to have a 
cell phone.  Back then, I was totally blind and a piano tuner and loved my 
phone because I was on the road all day and found it very convenient to be able 
to call my next customer for instructions to get to their house and not to 
pretend that I was a very famous brain surgeon who had to be on call at all 
times.

Ron  Danvers

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Subject: RE: Whose ordering the Apple watch?

Hi Mary.

I currently alternate through 2 watches, a Tisot Silent T, and a watch that is 
both Braille and talking. I frequently use the BEM speaker band but it isn't a 
watch.

Here are my reasons for getting the Apple watch.

1. I'm a geek and just can't help myself. (lol) 2. I look forward to not having 
to take my phone off of my belt case every time a notification comes in and 
getting haptec alerts on my wrist.
3. I also look forward to being able to read and reply to text messages via the 
watch again without having to fumble for my phone.
4. Making and receiving calls right on the watch also really appeals to me.

After reading the many hands-on reviews around, I'm sure there will be some 
other functions that I'll use daily. I think it's really a matter of 
convenience. I do agree however that it won't be for everyone and the things 
that appeal to me might be a turn off for others.

My only concern is that it's a 1.0 product and I think we all know how that 
could go but again the geek in me says go for it Dude!

Some of the functionality coming with the Apple watch I was actually getting 
with the BEM speaker band but alas it isn't a watch.

Best regards,

Rick Alfaro

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Mary Otten
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2015 11:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Whose ordering the Apple watch?

Hi Rick,
As I said in a different thread, I won't be ordering an Apple Watch. However, I 
would be very interested to know why you are. Do you now use a braille watch? 
Just curious. I can't imagine not having a braille watch, it's so convenient 
for what it is. And I also I'm just not seeing any upside to having to watch 
the Apple one that is. So, I do respect your opinion and your tech savvy, so 
would love to know why you are going to be up at 3 AM to place your order. Good 
luck with it.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 8, 2015, at 8:03 AM, Rick Alfaro rick.alf...@gmail.com wrote:

Pre-ordering begins on April 10th at 12:01pdt, 03:01EDT.  I'm curious
how many of you will be ordering 1. I have a feeling that not many are
for various reasons. If you are, which model? Anyone ordering the
$10,000 version? (lol)

I actually will be one of the suckers up at 3am placing my order for
the Sport model with a black band.

Anyone else?



Best regards,

Rick Alfaro


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Re: apple accessibility number

2015-04-09 Thread Joseph Hudson
1-877-204-3930.
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 Does anyone have the apple accessability number?
 
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In braille input mode, how do i know where the keys start?

2015-04-09 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hello
This may sound like a silly question so let me try to explain:
I’m trying out the braille input mode in iOs8.3 and it appears that i have to 
have the rotor set to characters in order to know where the actual braille keys 
begin, right? How else could i determine this without typing trange letters or 
signs at random? Looks like the keyboard for braille is always there as oposed 
to the standard keyboard that only pops up when a text field is editable. Also 
Voiceover tells me to calibrate the braille by moving and then lifting 3 
fingers on one hand then 3 on the other, however no matter what i do, braille 
keyboard seems to be in the same place.
Sorry for all these questions but i’m new to this part of the iPhone and try to 
determine if to use it or not.
/Krister

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Re: In braille input mode, how do i know where the keys start?

2015-04-09 Thread Alex Hall
I think it will help you to read the guide I wrote on this feature when it 
first came out. I've just updated it for iOS8.3. If you have any problems or 
still can't work something out, let us know. It's a really wonderful feature 
once you get it working, and I use it every day for so many different things. 
Anyway, here's the link:
http://www.applevis.com/guides/braille-ios-voiceover/introduction-braille-screen-input-ios-8
 On Apr 9, 2015, at 8:30 AM, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote:
 
 Hello
 This may sound like a silly question so let me try to explain:
 I’m trying out the braille input mode in iOs8.3 and it appears that i have to 
 have the rotor set to characters in order to know where the actual braille 
 keys begin, right? How else could i determine this without typing trange 
 letters or signs at random? Looks like the keyboard for braille is always 
 there as oposed to the standard keyboard that only pops up when a text field 
 is editable. Also Voiceover tells me to calibrate the braille by moving and 
 then lifting 3 fingers on one hand then 3 on the other, however no matter 
 what i do, braille keyboard seems to be in the same place.
 Sorry for all these questions but i’m new to this part of the iPhone and try 
 to determine if to use it or not.
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RE: a very strange download problem when updating the new IOS 8.3

2015-04-09 Thread Jim Ruby
I had this same experience. Updating from 8.2 to 8.3.



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Hey guys,

OK, i don't know whether i should be concerned or what, but i have never 
seen this before.  I went to settings, and general, and software update 
to go get the new 8.3.
When i clicked software update, i flicked right, it said software update 
heading, then i flicked once more, and all i heard was a click sound, 
then if i flicked again i heard the bong which means you're at the end 
of where you can go.  I'd enver had this happen before.  In order to get 
to the download of the IOS, i had to go all over the screen to find the 
button to click on. This is a concern, as this has never happened 
before.  Any ideas, could something be wrong?

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Re: a very strange download problem when updating the new IOS 8.3

2015-04-09 Thread Christopher Chaltain
This has worked this way for me for a few versions of IOS. I'm not sure 
when it was introduced.


On 04/09/2015 07:36 AM, Les Kriegler wrote:

Bill, yes, I had the exact same experience. We all need to report this to Apple 
accessibility.

Sent from my iPhone


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Hey guys,

OK, i don't know whether i should be concerned or what, but i have never seen 
this before.  I went to settings, and general, and software update to go get 
the new 8.3.
When i clicked software update, i flicked right, it said software update 
heading, then i flicked once more, and all i heard was a click sound, then if i 
flicked again i heard the bong which means you're at the end of where you can 
go.  I'd enver had this happen before.  In order to get to the download of the 
IOS, i had to go all over the screen to find the button to click on. This is a 
concern, as this has never happened before.  Any ideas, could something be 
wrong?

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Re: Voiceover and Statistics

2015-04-09 Thread Alex Hall
I've noticed it in Dice World and Lire, despite neither app having been updated 
recently. It happened as soon as I installed 8.3, again with no app updates. I 
have to agree that it's somehow related to iOS.
 On Apr 9, 2015, at 9:24 AM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 With all due respect, are you sure this is an Apple thing and not
 something related to those specific apps? Have you noticed it with
 other apps, or just these two?
 
 Wayne
 
 On 4/8/15, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 Hey all. Now that I'm not required to keep my mouth shut about iOS 8.3 due
 to an NDA, I've noticed something strange with Voiceover when it comes to
 reading statistics in an app. I'll give you two examples of what I mean. In
 Sports Alerts before iOS 8.3, it would read your teams name, then read their
 record, like for example, Hawks, 59, 19, then the team that they're playing
 plus their record, and then the time. Now in iOS 8.3, Voiceover reads it
 like this: Hornets, Hawks, 59, 19, 33, 45, 6:30 PM.
 Another example of Voiceover's weird statistic reading is in Trivia Crack.
 Before iOS 8.3, it would say the current score of a game you're playing,
 then read who you're playing against, then they're level. Now in iOS 8.3, it
 reads your opponent's level, then their name, then how long you have left to
 play, and then the score last.
 Has anyone else experienced this weird reading of statistics in iOS 8.3? Do
 you think this is a bug or did Apple do this on purpose?
 
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How to Fix iOS 8.3 Missing App Store Password Settings

2015-04-09 Thread Chris Smart

Article at:
http://www.iphoneincanada.ca/how-to/fix-ios-8-3-missing-password-settings-2/

Chris

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Re: Trust Or Not To Trust, That Is the Question!

2015-04-09 Thread Chris Smart

yes

At 11:53 AM 4/9/2015, you wrote:

Hi.
When I charge my Iphone5 via the computer, the system asks me 
whether I trust that computer.

What would happen if I say I don't trust?
Would my phone still be charged?
Thanks!

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Problem with Messaging and IOS8.3

2015-04-09 Thread Terry-Ann Saurmann
Hi all,

I updated to IOS8.3 last evening.  I sent an Imessage to a friend this morning, 
but then couldn't locate the Back button to return to the main message screen 
until I deleted the message app from the App. Switcher and then reopened it. 
Once opened, I was able to double tap on the back button and return to the 
main message screen.  Has anyone else experienced this?  Terry

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Re: Whose ordering the Apple watch?

2015-04-09 Thread Chris Smart
This is just a rough calculation, but an hour of iTunes+ audio, 
meaning stereo AAC (m4a) at 256kbps including metadata etc. is about 
130MB.  That into 2GB (2048MB) is about 15 hours of audio.  Pretty 
good for those of us who remember halling a Disman and CD's around. (grin)


At 11:57 AM 4/9/2015, you wrote:
Hi Rick, yes you can do this, although there is only 2GB of storage 
that Apple allocates for music on the watch itself, so people will 
have to be really selective.

Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.orghttp://Mosen.org

On 10/04/2015, at 3:26 am, Rick Alfaro 
mailto:rick.alf...@gmail.comrick.alf...@gmail.com wrote:


From what I understand, you can pair a BT headset directly to the 
watch for listening to music living on the watch itself. I do 
agree though, totally useless with no advantage I can see at this point.




Best regards,

Rick Alfaro

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Subject: RE: Whose ordering the Apple watch?

Yes, but if you use a bluetooth headset then there is 0 advantage 
to the watch since the bluetooth headset works just the same with 
the phone directly.



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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick Alfaro

Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2015 6:57 AM
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.comviphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Whose ordering the Apple watch?

Hi, yes, the watch has a speaker, and calls taken on the watch 
behave like using a speaker phone. Of course you can use a 
BlueTooth headset in addition to the watch if concerned about 
privacy. That is what I've surmised from reading various reviews anyhow.




Best regards,

Rick Alfaro

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ron Pelletier

Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2015 1:46 PM
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.comviphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Whose ordering the Apple watch?

Hi Rick,

Am I right to assume that all calls you take on your watch will be 
with open speaker and therefore, not private?  If I'm on a bus, 
restaurant or any other public place, I don't really like the idea 
of people around me hearing the other end of the conversation, so 
short as it may be.  I've been using a cell phone for 25 years and 
it took me a long time even to accept the idea of answering my 
phone in public.  Maybe that's because there weren't very many cell 
phones around and too many people who had them talked as loud as 
they could so that everyone around realized they were important 
enough to have a cell phone.  Back then, I was totally blind and a 
piano tuner and loved my phone because I was on the road all day 
and found it very convenient to be able to call my next customer 
for instructions to get to their house and not to pretend that I 
was a very famous brain surgeon who had to be on call at all times.


Ron  Danvers

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Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 1:03 PM
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.comviphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Whose ordering the Apple watch?

Hi Mary.

I currently alternate through 2 watches, a Tisot Silent T, and a 
watch that is both Braille and talking. I frequently use the BEM 
speaker band but it isn't a watch.


Here are my reasons for getting the Apple watch.

1. I'm a geek and just can't help myself. (lol) 2. I look forward 
to not having to take my phone off of my belt case every time a 
notification comes in and getting haptec alerts on my wrist.
3. I also look forward to being able to read and reply to text 
messages via the watch again without having to fumble for my phone.

4. Making and receiving calls right on the watch also really appeals to me.

After reading the many hands-on reviews around, I'm sure there will 
be some other functions that I'll use daily. I think it's really a 
matter of convenience. I do agree however that it won't be for 
everyone and the things that appeal to me might be a turn off for others.


My only concern is that it's a 1.0 product and I think we all know 
how that could go but again the geek in me says go for it Dude!


Some of the functionality coming with the Apple watch I was 
actually getting with the BEM speaker band but alas it isn't a watch.


Best regards,

Rick Alfaro

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Subject: Re: 

Re: In braille input mode, how do i know where the keys start?

2015-04-09 Thread Alex Hall
Each finger is a dot, just like any braille keyboard. So long as you keep your 
fingers in the right place, you'll get the dots you want. You aren't moving one 
finger around to find each dot; rather, you're typing up to five dots at once 
(the touch screen can't detect more than five touches at a time). If I want to 
type and I, I'd just put my left middle and right index fingers down, then lift 
them up, and there's my I. If character feedback is important, be sure to use 
uncontracted braille, and to enable character feedback in VoiceOver's typing 
feedback settings.
 On Apr 9, 2015, at 10:04 AM, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi there,
 See question below:
 
 9 apr 2015 kl. 15:22 skrev Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 
 mailto:mehg...@icloud.com:
 
 I use word feedback so I can hear what I've written when I do the space 
 gesture
 
 But don’t you get a lot of random characters typed when trying to find the 
 positions for the braille keys? I also want to have character echo set to 
 word mode but then i don’t know where the dots actually begin.
 /Krister
 
 
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Re: a very strange download problem when updating the new IOS 8.3

2015-04-09 Thread Les Kriegler
Bill, yes, I had the exact same experience. We all need to report this to Apple 
accessibility.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 9, 2015, at 8:00 AM, Jed Barton jedbar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hey guys,
 
 OK, i don't know whether i should be concerned or what, but i have never seen 
 this before.  I went to settings, and general, and software update to go get 
 the new 8.3.
 When i clicked software update, i flicked right, it said software update 
 heading, then i flicked once more, and all i heard was a click sound, then if 
 i flicked again i heard the bong which means you're at the end of where you 
 can go.  I'd enver had this happen before.  In order to get to the download 
 of the IOS, i had to go all over the screen to find the button to click on. 
 This is a concern, as this has never happened before.  Any ideas, could 
 something be wrong?
 
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Re: 8.3 UPDATE ... ANYONE ELSE NOTICED ...

2015-04-09 Thread christopher hallsworth
Yes I did on my iPad Mini 2 running iOS 8.3. I have always speak notifications 
off but this seems to only apply when the device is locked. Anyone can confirm 
this?
 On 9 Apr 2015, at 18:27, Matthew Dyer ilovecountrymusic...@outlook.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Not sure if anyone notest this, but if you receive an email while the phone 
 is unlocked voiceover will read the rentire message body.  Anyone here notest 
 this.  I find ths very strange since this was not the case in older 
 verisions.  
 
 Thanks.
 
 Matthew
 
 
 Sent from my sonar linux VM
 On 04/08/2015 07:19 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:
 Basically what probably happened is that the phone turned off with minimal 
 feedback from vo and took a while to turn on. If, by the time you were back 
 next to it, the screen was already locked it was silent until the lucky call 
 woke it up 
 
 All is well that ends well   Best regards 
 
 Ioana
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Apr 8, 2015, at 6:05 PM, carol.pearso...@googlemail.com 
 carol.pearso...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
  
 Well, sighs of relief here as I discover my 4S has finally come back to 
 life ... but it wasn't as usual.
  
 I upgraded to 8.3 over Wifi, without using iTunes, as I just hate it ...  I 
 got the prompts to accept and waited, but things were obviously very busy 
 with everyone upgrading and I never got any vocal feedback that anything 
 was happening.  Some while later I heard a few noises coming from 
 VoiceOver, but they were only tiny fragments of words ... and then another 
 silence.  I was unable to determine exactly what was happening, but left 
 well alone, had a cuppa etc.
  
 I got back to my phone, gently flicked a finger across and got nothing ... 
 so wondered.  I determined that I'd just sit it out and wait, if needed, 
 for a friend to call by in the morning to ascertain what she could see on 
 the screen.  Then my husband said, Shall I call you and find out if your 
 phone responds?  I decided it couldn't hurt, since anyone could have 
 called me during this upgrade period ... so he did.  The phone rang, 
 VoiceOver spoke and - finally - somehow - we're back in business again.
  
 Well, it wasn't as sstraightforward as most I've known but, well, that idea 
 to call me was sure worth it!  Smiles
  
 Now I can go and play ...
  
 Carol P
  
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Re: a very strange download problem when updating the new IOS 8.3

2015-04-09 Thread Kimber Gardner
So you were still able to click it even though the button was dimmed?
Because I had the same issue and assumed the update was not yet
available.

On 4/9/15, jazzyjennifer jwens2...@gmail.com wrote:
 hi there, yeah i had that same problem. then when i finaly found the
 download button, it said download button dimmed. after i clicked on
 download and agreed to everything, it said downloading dimed. so i had
 to get out of settings and re open it and go back under general. then
 soft ware up date and everything up dated right. installing this up
 date. was very intresting.

 On 4/9/2015 8:00 AM, Jed Barton wrote:
 Hey guys,

 OK, i don't know whether i should be concerned or what, but i have
 never seen this before.  I went to settings, and general, and software
 update to go get the new 8.3.
 When i clicked software update, i flicked right, it said software
 update heading, then i flicked once more, and all i heard was a click
 sound, then if i flicked again i heard the bong which means you're at
 the end of where you can go.  I'd enver had this happen before.  In
 order to get to the download of the IOS, i had to go all over the
 screen to find the button to click on. This is a concern, as this has
 never happened before.  Any ideas, could something be wrong?


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Re: A Question About The New Emoji Keyboard in iOS 8.3

2015-04-09 Thread Wayne Merritt
I read an article about the new symbols in the emojy keyboard, and
there are many more symbols and variations for different ethnic and
ratial groups, along with a few other additions I'm sure. I looked at
the emojy keyboard earlier briefly, and it seemed that there were 4
lines of symbols where before there were 3. Also, VoiceOver was more
descriptive in reading each symbol. For example, instead of saying
face with clenching teeth, it said grinning face with clenching teeth.
I found other instances of that on the symbols that I use most often.

Wayne

On 4/8/15, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote:
 This is from the changes list:
 Other improvements and bug fixes
 ·Introduces a redesigned Emoji keyboard with over 300 new
 characters

 I'm not sure why Apple would say there are over 300 new characters but
 actually have less.
 Richard




 On Apr 8, 2015, at 8:06 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:

 Hello Donna,

 Thank you for your reply.

 I gleamed this new layout but, still, to me, it seems as though there are
 fewer symbols.

 Oh well, it is what it is.

 Thank you for confirming the new layout.

 Mark

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 Subject: Re: A Question About The New Emoji Keyboard in iOS 8.3

 Hi

 I have to say that I hate the emoji keyboard!! Here is how the emoji
 keyboard is laid out now. There are now 8 categories of emoji's. The tabs
 are along the bottom. A few new emoji's have been added. The reason it
 seems as though that there is less is because each of the individual
 categories are no longer listed in pages per category. There is now one
 long list of emoji's with no clear division of each category. To make his
 clearer, if you choose the People tab, you are now able to swipe through
 all of the categories without choosing the next category tab.

 Donna

 Hello Everyone,

 You know, I was going to update my 5 S from 8.2 to 8.3 just after I
 updated my 6 Plus to 8.3.

 Then, for whatever reason, I decided to hold off and do a little
 comparison of various features.

 I'm sitting here fiddling with the new Emoji keyboard and, from my
 perspective, there does not appear to be as many symbols as in 8.2.

 I realize that I must be missing something but, for the life of me, I
 cannot figure out what it is.

 In 8.2, when using the Emoji keyboard, there are several tabs at the
 bottom of the keyboard.  Above the keyboard, there are sub-pages
 listed as page 1, page 2, etc.  The pages at the top offer more
 symbols that exist in the category that is selected at the bottom.

 Now, in 8.3, as far as I can tell, there are no sub-pages per category
 but rather 20-pages, altogether.

 Of course I realize that some of the symbols now offer varying skin
 tones that may be accessed by a double-tap and hold but, even with
 this, from my perspective, there seems to be fewer symbols from which to
 choose.

 Perhaps there is a new gesture I'm missing or something.

 I would appreciate any feedback on this as I am a little confused.

 Mark

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Re: IBook search feature no longer working after 8.3 update.

2015-04-09 Thread Richard Turner
I just went into iBooks, made sure I was at the top level of the library, then 
double tapped on the search tab along the bottom of the screen.
I then double tapped in the search field near the top and did a couple 
different searches without any problem.
This is with iOS 8.3 on my iPhone 5S.
Richard




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 Hi all.
 I updated to 8.3 yeayesterday and now the search feature... in the search tab 
 no longer works with vo. 
 Anyone have the same experience? 
 y 
 
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Re: 8.3 UPDATE ... ANYONE ELSE NOTICED ...

2015-04-09 Thread carol.pearso...@googlemail.com

I remember finding the downloading stage but that was all.

Anyway, it all ended well and so far I'm really pleased with the update.

Apps are moving well - keyboard behaving well - adding contacts no big deal 
any more!  Smiles


Carol P

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2015 12:15 AM
Subject: Re: 8.3 UPDATE ... ANYONE ELSE NOTICED ...


Just as an FYI, you do get some updates on the screen, such as
downloading, verifying update and so on. I couldn't get to these updates
by flicking, but I was able to find them just by exploring the screen.
Obviously, once the iPhone reboots, you just have to wait.

On 04/08/2015 05:05 PM, carol.pearso...@googlemail.com wrote:

Hi all,
Well, sighs of relief here as I discover my 4S has finally come back to
life ... but it wasn't as usual.
I upgraded to 8.3 over Wifi, without using iTunes, as I just hate it
...  I got the prompts to accept and waited, but things were obviously
very busy with everyone upgrading and I never got any vocal feedback
that anything was happening.  Some while later I heard a few noises
coming from VoiceOver, but they were only tiny fragments of words ...
and then another silence.  I was unable to determine exactly what was
happening, but left well alone, had a cuppa etc.
I got back to my phone, gently flicked a finger across and got nothing
... so wondered.  I determined that I'd just sit it out and wait, if
needed, for a friend to call by in the morning to ascertain what she
could see on the screen.  Then my husband said, Shall I call you and
find out if your phone responds?  I decided it couldn't hurt, since
anyone could have called me during this upgrade period ... so he did.
The phone rang, VoiceOver spoke and - finally - somehow - we're back in
business again.
Well, it wasn't as sstraightforward as most I've known but, well, that
idea to call me was sure worth it! Smiles
Now I can go and play ...
Carol P

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RE: Whose ordering the Apple watch?

2015-04-09 Thread Rick Alfaro
Hi, yes, the watch has a speaker, and calls taken on the watch behave like 
using a speaker phone. Of course you can use a BlueTooth headset in addition to 
the watch if concerned about privacy. That is what I've surmised from reading 
various reviews anyhow.



Best regards,

Rick Alfaro

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Whose ordering the Apple watch?

Hi Rick,

Am I right to assume that all calls you take on your watch will be with open 
speaker and therefore, not private?  If I'm on a bus, restaurant or any other 
public place, I don't really like the idea of people around me hearing the 
other end of the conversation, so short as it may be.  I've been using a cell 
phone for 25 years and it took me a long time even to accept the idea of 
answering my phone in public.  Maybe that's because there weren't very many 
cell phones around and too many people who had them talked as loud as they 
could so that everyone around realized they were important enough to have a 
cell phone.  Back then, I was totally blind and a piano tuner and loved my 
phone because I was on the road all day and found it very convenient to be able 
to call my next customer for instructions to get to their house and not to 
pretend that I was a very famous brain surgeon who had to be on call at all 
times. 

Ron  Danvers

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Subject: RE: Whose ordering the Apple watch?

Hi Mary.

I currently alternate through 2 watches, a Tisot Silent T, and a watch that is 
both Braille and talking. I frequently use the BEM speaker band but it isn't a 
watch.

Here are my reasons for getting the Apple watch.

1. I'm a geek and just can't help myself. (lol) 2. I look forward to not having 
to take my phone off of my belt case every time a notification comes in and 
getting haptec alerts on my wrist.
3. I also look forward to being able to read and reply to text messages via the 
watch again without having to fumble for my phone.
4. Making and receiving calls right on the watch also really appeals to me.

After reading the many hands-on reviews around, I'm sure there will be some 
other functions that I'll use daily. I think it's really a matter of 
convenience. I do agree however that it won't be for everyone and the things 
that appeal to me might be a turn off for others.

My only concern is that it's a 1.0 product and I think we all know how that 
could go but again the geek in me says go for it Dude!

Some of the functionality coming with the Apple watch I was actually getting 
with the BEM speaker band but alas it isn't a watch.

Best regards,

Rick Alfaro

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Mary Otten
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2015 11:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Whose ordering the Apple watch?

Hi Rick,
As I said in a different thread, I won't be ordering an Apple Watch. However, I 
would be very interested to know why you are. Do you now use a braille watch? 
Just curious. I can't imagine not having a braille watch, it's so convenient 
for what it is. And I also I'm just not seeing any upside to having to watch 
the Apple one that is. So, I do respect your opinion and your tech savvy, so 
would love to know why you are going to be up at 3 AM to place your order. Good 
luck with it.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 8, 2015, at 8:03 AM, Rick Alfaro rick.alf...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Pre-ordering begins on April 10th at 12:01pdt, 03:01EDT.  I'm curious 
 how many of you will be ordering 1. I have a feeling that not many are 
 for various reasons. If you are, which model? Anyone ordering the 
 $10,000 version? (lol)
 
 I actually will be one of the suckers up at 3am placing my order for 
 the Sport model with a black band.
 
 Anyone else?
 
 
 
 Best regards,
 
 Rick Alfaro
 
 
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a very strange download problem when updating the new IOS 8.3

2015-04-09 Thread Jed Barton

Hey guys,

OK, i don't know whether i should be concerned or what, but i have never 
seen this before.  I went to settings, and general, and software update 
to go get the new 8.3.
When i clicked software update, i flicked right, it said software update 
heading, then i flicked once more, and all i heard was a click sound, 
then if i flicked again i heard the bong which means you're at the end 
of where you can go.  I'd enver had this happen before.  In order to get 
to the download of the IOS, i had to go all over the screen to find the 
button to click on. This is a concern, as this has never happened 
before.  Any ideas, could something be wrong?


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Re: 8.3 UPDATE ... ANYONE ELSE NOTICED ...

2015-04-09 Thread RobH.
oGoody,  might actually have this one myself at this rate, if the little 
princess shifts her cute kitty bumb so I can type.

RobH.
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2015 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: 8.3 UPDATE ... ANYONE ELSE NOTICED ...


I remember finding the downloading stage but that was all.

Anyway, it all ended well and so far I'm really pleased with the update.

Apps are moving well - keyboard behaving well - adding contacts no big deal
any more!  Smiles

Carol P

- Original Message - 
From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2015 12:15 AM
Subject: Re: 8.3 UPDATE ... ANYONE ELSE NOTICED ...


Just as an FYI, you do get some updates on the screen, such as
downloading, verifying update and so on. I couldn't get to these updates
by flicking, but I was able to find them just by exploring the screen.
Obviously, once the iPhone reboots, you just have to wait.

On 04/08/2015 05:05 PM, carol.pearso...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hi all,
 Well, sighs of relief here as I discover my 4S has finally come back to
 life ... but it wasn't as usual.
 I upgraded to 8.3 over Wifi, without using iTunes, as I just hate it
 ...  I got the prompts to accept and waited, but things were obviously
 very busy with everyone upgrading and I never got any vocal feedback
 that anything was happening.  Some while later I heard a few noises
 coming from VoiceOver, but they were only tiny fragments of words ...
 and then another silence.  I was unable to determine exactly what was
 happening, but left well alone, had a cuppa etc.
 I got back to my phone, gently flicked a finger across and got nothing
 ... so wondered.  I determined that I'd just sit it out and wait, if
 needed, for a friend to call by in the morning to ascertain what she
 could see on the screen.  Then my husband said, Shall I call you and
 find out if your phone responds?  I decided it couldn't hurt, since
 anyone could have called me during this upgrade period ... so he did.
 The phone rang, VoiceOver spoke and - finally - somehow - we're back in
 business again.
 Well, it wasn't as sstraightforward as most I've known but, well, that
 idea to call me was sure worth it! Smiles
 Now I can go and play ...
 Carol P

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Re: Apple Watch and accessibility

2015-04-09 Thread Russ Kiehne
I would be interested in knowing what the battery life is like with using 
voiceover?

From: SSEric 
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2015 8:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Apple Watch and accessibility

For the past week, many tech writers have had an Apple Watch for review ahead 
of the release. I have not heard of anyone being given advanced access to the 
Watch to talk about it in terms of accessibility. This seems like a gross 
oversight somewhere.

 

Eric

 

 




From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Peter Logan
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 9:55 PM
To: Vi Phone
Subject: Apple Watch and accessibility

 

After sending a note to Tim Cook asking about the accessibility of the Apple 
Watch ... here is the answer I got from Phil Schiller.  I appreciate that they 
got back to me, and in a very timely manner.

 

Peter, 

Thank you for your question about Apple Watch Accessibility. 
Yes, we do have support in Apple Watch for accessibility, that information will 
be posted on apple.com shortly. 

Below are the marketing descriptions of the Accessibility features for Apple 
Watch. 

Phil 

——— 

VoiceOver 
VoiceOver is a gesture-based screen reader that uses the speaker on Apple 
Watch. It tells you everything that’s happening on the screen and helps you 
navigate it — even if you can’t see it. VoiceOver on Apple Watch is compatible 
with built-in apps and is available in all 14 supported languages. 

Font Adjustment 
Activate Larger Dynamic Type to increase the text size for a range of Apple 
Watch apps, including Mail, Messages, and Settings — and even some third-party 
apps — to make it easier to read. You can also choose Bold Text to make the 
text heavier across built-in apps. 

Zoom 
With Apple Watch, it’s easy to zoom in on your content by using the Digital 
Crown to move across the screen by rows. With magnification up to 15 times the 
native size, Zoom helps you enjoy all that Apple Watch has to offer. 

Grayscale 
If your vision is impaired by color, Apple Watch lets you enable grayscale 
onscreen. Once you set the filter, the settings apply systemwide, so you’ll see 
only shades of gray on the Home screen, apps, and more. 

Extra Large Watch Face 
Apple Watch has many different faces that you can change and customize. One of 
them is an extra large watch face — with numbers that take up the entire screen 
— that makes it easier to view the time. 

Reduce Transparency 
For features like alerts, Siri, and Glances, you can increase the contrast on 
your Apple Watch screen by reducing the background transparency. 

On/Off Labels
To make it easier to see whether a setting is on or off, you can have Apple 
Watch show an additional label on the on/off switch. 

Reduce Motion 
When you turn on Reduce Motion, 
ﰆﰉﰃﰚﰅﰉﰋﰏﰅﰔﰃﰦﰏﰔﰏﰁﰉﰅﰃﰡﰅﰆﰃﰔﰏﰅﰆﰊﰛﰏﰏﰁﰅﰏﰌﰏﰔﰏﰁﰉﰆﰜﰅﰡﰃﰛﰅﰏﰞﰍﰔﰚﰌﰏﰜﰅﰉﰋﰏﰅﰚﰍﰛﰍﰌﰌﰍﰞﰅﰏﰄﰏﰊﰉﰅﰃﰡﰅﰈﰊﰃﰁﰆﰆﰉﰃﰚﰅﰉﰋﰏﰅﰔﰃﰦﰏﰔﰏﰁﰉﰅﰃﰡﰅﰆﰃﰔﰏﰅﰆﰊﰛﰏﰏﰁﰅﰏﰌﰏﰔﰏﰁﰉﰆﰜﰅﰡﰃﰛﰅﰏﰞﰍﰔﰚﰌﰏﰜﰅﰉﰋﰏﰅﰚﰍﰛﰍﰌﰌﰍﰞﰅﰏﰄﰏﰊﰉﰅﰃﰡﰅﰈﰊﰃﰁﰆﰆﰉﰃﰚﰅﰉﰋﰏﰅﰔﰃﰦﰏﰔﰏﰁﰉﰅﰃﰡﰅﰆﰃﰔﰏﰅﰆﰊﰛﰏﰏﰁﰅﰏﰌﰏﰔﰏﰁﰉﰆﰜﰅﰡﰃﰛﰅﰏﰞﰍﰔﰚﰌﰏﰜﰅﰉﰋﰏﰅﰚﰍﰛﰍﰌﰌﰍﰞﰅﰏﰄﰏﰊﰉﰅﰃﰡﰅﰈﰊﰃﰁﰆsome
 screen elements no longer move. For example, the movement of icons on the Home 
screen will be simpler and more directly associated with your navigation 
gestures. 

——— 

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iOS 8.3 performance on older devices

2015-04-09 Thread Cristóbal
Hello list,

 

A question for those who are using older iPhones and iPads. I was curious to
know what sort of performance folks are experiencing with this latest iOS
8.3 update. If it’s by any chance snappier in general than prior 8.0
versions or if it at least doesn’t slow the device down any more? My wife’es
got a 4S that I plan on taking over from her for a second line once we
upgrade my phone, but on the times I do use her phone, I notice that it’s
really showing it’s age as far as sluggishness and responsiveness with
Voiceover. She’s sighted and has an iPad anyway so performance as a whole on
the phone is no big deal for her, but as I want to use it, I’d like an idea
of what I can come to expect. As a second line, I don’t’ plan on using but
the most basic apps for communication so video or audio streaming or games
won’t be a concern. My guess is that 8.3 will probably be the last so called
big update for the 4S but for possible bug fix type of updates. So whatever
it is now, it will be. We’ve also got an old iPad 2 floating around here
that’s getting long in the tooth that I’d like to update if it won’t slow it
down any further.

 

Anyway, hopefully those who have had a chance to play with it on their 4S or
even iPad 2 can provide their observations/feedback.

 

Thanks,

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Re: 8.3 UPDATE ... ANYONE ELSE NOTICED ...

2015-04-09 Thread Matthew Dyer

Hi,

Not sure if anyone notest this, but if you receive an email while the 
phone is unlocked voiceover will read the rentire message body. Anyone 
here notest this.  I find ths very strange since this was not the case 
in older verisions.


Thanks.

Matthew


Sent from my sonar linux VM

On 04/08/2015 07:19 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:
Basically what probably happened is that the phone turned off with 
minimal feedback from vo and took a while to turn on. If, by the time 
you were back next to it, the screen was already locked it was silent 
until the lucky call woke it up


All is well that ends well   Best regards

Ioana



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On Apr 8, 2015, at 6:05 PM, carol.pearso...@googlemail.com 
mailto:carol.pearso...@googlemail.com 
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com 
mailto:carol.pearso...@googlemail.com wrote:



Hi all,
Well, sighs of relief here as I discover my 4S has finally come back 
to life ... but it wasn't as usual.
I upgraded to 8.3 over Wifi, without using iTunes, as I just hate it 
...  I got the prompts to accept and waited, but things were 
obviously very busy with everyone upgrading and I never got any vocal 
feedback that anything was happening.  Some while later I heard a few 
noises coming from VoiceOver, but they were only tiny fragments of 
words ... and then another silence.  I was unable to determine 
exactly what was happening, but left well alone, had a cuppa etc.
I got back to my phone, gently flicked a finger across and got 
nothing ... so wondered.  I determined that I'd just sit it out and 
wait, if needed, for a friend to call by in the morning to ascertain 
what she could see on the screen.  Then my husband said, Shall I 
call you and find out if your phone responds?  I decided it couldn't 
hurt, since anyone could have called me during this upgrade period 
... so he did. The phone rang, VoiceOver spoke and - finally - 
somehow - we're back in business again.
Well, it wasn't as sstraightforward as most I've known but, well, 
that idea to call me was sure worth it!  Smiles

Now I can go and play ...
Carol P
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Re: a very strange download problem when updating the new IOS 8.3

2015-04-09 Thread Wayne Merritt
I had the same. I found that instead of flicking to the update
content, I had to explore by touch. That got me to the various
information on the screen, such as the buttons and progress info when
the udpate had started. Not a deal breaker but an inconvenience to be
sure. I was able to update just fine once I found the relevant
material.

Wayne

On 4/9/15, brucemb bruce...@verizon.net wrote:
 Hi all.  I had the same problem myself it is real weird.
 bruce from new jersey on the computer
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   Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2015 8:36 AM
   Subject: Re: a very strange download problem when updating the new IOS
 8.3


   Bill, yes, I had the exact same experience. We all need to report this to
 Apple accessibility.

   Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 9, 2015, at 8:00 AM, Jed Barton jedbar...@gmail.com wrote:
   
Hey guys,
   
OK, i don't know whether i should be concerned or what, but i have never
 seen this before.  I went to settings, and general, and software update to
 go get the new 8.3.
When i clicked software update, i flicked right, it said software update
 heading, then i flicked once more, and all i heard was a click sound, then
 if i flicked again i heard the bong which means you're at the end of where
 you can go.  I'd enver had this happen before.  In order to get to the
 download of the IOS, i had to go all over the screen to find the button to
 click on. This is a concern, as this has never happened before.  Any ideas,
 could something be wrong?
   
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Re: Family sharing questions.

2015-04-09 Thread Isaac Hebert
Family sharing allows you and six other people with you being the organizer to 
share  iTunes app store and ibook store purchases with each other. 
What I mean is you can share movies music books apps with each other. 
You will be the organizer so if they make a purchases not from the purchases 
section under family but if they purchase an app from the app store that 
requires payment it will be charged to your account. 
In other words you will be paying for every one's purchase that is a part of  
family sharing. 
If some one wants to download an app  that you have already purchased then they 
have to go to for  example iTunes purchased content go to iTunes  choose more 
and then choose purchased and then they  have to double tap one of the  name of 
the family member's purchases  they want to view. 
 
If they want to view app store purchases then they have to go to app store. 
Then go to updates. 
Then go to purchased. 
Then double tap the name of the family members purchases they want to view. 
 
Another thing is that with family sharing you also get a family calendar as 
well wheir you can keep up with family events. 
There is more to family sharing but that should give you a little bit of how 
family sharing works. 
Here is a link to more info about family sharing. 
 
https://www.apple.com/ios/whats-new/family-sharing/

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 wrote:
 
 Hello list,
 I have some questions about family sharing feature:
 1. At first would anyone, please, describe how does it work?
 2. In case I will setup Family sharing how many people can be invited?
 3. Let's say I will purchase an app, how will other people know that they can 
 download the app and is it completely free for them?
 4. In case I will purchase an app that requires in-app purchase (such as 
 Diceworld, triviacrack etc), each member must do in-app purchase or is it 
 included in family sharing feature?
 5. Is it possible to add previously purchased apps and make them available 
 for family sharing?
 6. Can I purchase an app just for myself that will not be included in family 
 sharing or once I setup family sharing every single app will be included?
 Sorry for all these questions, but I am very new with IOS 8 and thinking 
 about setting up family sharing.
 I hope my mail makes sense.
 Thank youfor your help in advance.
 With kind regards
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Re: Trust Or Not To Trust, That Is the Question!

2015-04-09 Thread RobH.
Probably not, and doubt you'd get the option again to negate it. I did that 
with an mp3 player, rendering it useless.
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Subject: Trust Or Not To Trust, That Is the Question!


Hi.

When I charge my Iphone5 via the computer, the system asks me whether I
trust that computer.

What would happen if I say I don't trust?

Would my phone still be charged?

Thanks!

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Re: Whose ordering the Apple watch?

2015-04-09 Thread goshawk on horseback
I am seriously thinking about getting it, as by the looks of it, it would 
make things a lot easier when I am out riding, rather than trying to juggle 
the reins and phone.

Simon


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Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2015 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: Whose ordering the Apple watch?


I think the reason I'm not really excited about the Apple Watch is
because I never take my phone out of my pocket anyway, as I use a
braille display almost exclusively with braille. SO I have most of the
phone's functionality on my braille display, which I wear around my
shoulder. The Haptic feedback seems kind of neat, but not worth quite
that much money to me. Yeah, I know, I'm not going to be an early
adopter, but that's fine with me. I have other more important things
to put my money toward, like a cross country move. (smiles).

Just my thoughts,
Scott

On 4/9/15, Rick Alfaro rick.alf...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi, yes, the watch has a speaker, and calls taken on the watch behave like
 using a speaker phone. Of course you can use a BlueTooth headset in 
 addition
 to the watch if concerned about privacy. That is what I've surmised from
 reading various reviews anyhow.



 Best regards,

 Rick Alfaro

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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Ron Pelletier
 Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2015 1:46 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Whose ordering the Apple watch?

 Hi Rick,

 Am I right to assume that all calls you take on your watch will be with 
 open
 speaker and therefore, not private?  If I'm on a bus, restaurant or any
 other public place, I don't really like the idea of people around me 
 hearing
 the other end of the conversation, so short as it may be.  I've been using 
 a
 cell phone for 25 years and it took me a long time even to accept the idea
 of answering my phone in public.  Maybe that's because there weren't very
 many cell phones around and too many people who had them talked as loud as
 they could so that everyone around realized they were important enough to
 have a cell phone.  Back then, I was totally blind and a piano tuner and
 loved my phone because I was on the road all day and found it very
 convenient to be able to call my next customer for instructions to get to
 their house and not to pretend that I was a very famous brain surgeon who
 had to be on call at all times.

 Ron  Danvers

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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Rick Alfaro
 Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 1:03 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Whose ordering the Apple watch?

 Hi Mary.

 I currently alternate through 2 watches, a Tisot Silent T, and a watch 
 that
 is both Braille and talking. I frequently use the BEM speaker band but it
 isn't a watch.

 Here are my reasons for getting the Apple watch.

 1. I'm a geek and just can't help myself. (lol) 2. I look forward to not
 having to take my phone off of my belt case every time a notification 
 comes
 in and getting haptec alerts on my wrist.
 3. I also look forward to being able to read and reply to text messages 
 via
 the watch again without having to fumble for my phone.
 4. Making and receiving calls right on the watch also really appeals to 
 me.

 After reading the many hands-on reviews around, I'm sure there will be 
 some
 other functions that I'll use daily. I think it's really a matter of
 convenience. I do agree however that it won't be for everyone and the 
 things
 that appeal to me might be a turn off for others.

 My only concern is that it's a 1.0 product and I think we all know how 
 that
 could go but again the geek in me says go for it Dude!

 Some of the functionality coming with the Apple watch I was actually 
 getting
 with the BEM speaker band but alas it isn't a watch.

 Best regards,

 Rick Alfaro

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Mary Otten
 Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2015 11:50 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Whose ordering the Apple watch?

 Hi Rick,
 As I said in a different thread, I won't be ordering an Apple Watch.
 However, I would be very interested to know why you are. Do you now use a
 braille watch? Just curious. I can't imagine not having a braille watch,
 it's so convenient for what it is. And I also I'm just not seeing any 
 upside
 to having to watch the Apple one that is. So, I do respect your opinion 
 and
 your tech savvy, so would love to know why you are going to be up at 3 AM 
 to
 place your order. Good luck with it.
 Mary


 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 8, 2015, at 8:03 AM, Rick Alfaro rick.alf...@gmail.com wrote:

 Pre-ordering begins on April 10th at 12:01pdt, 03:01EDT.  I'm curious
 how many of you will be ordering 1. I have a feeling that not many are
 for various reasons. If you are, which model? Anyone 

Re: Whose ordering the Apple watch?

2015-04-09 Thread Scott Davert
I think the reason I'm not really excited about the Apple Watch is
because I never take my phone out of my pocket anyway, as I use a
braille display almost exclusively with braille. SO I have most of the
phone's functionality on my braille display, which I wear around my
shoulder. The Haptic feedback seems kind of neat, but not worth quite
that much money to me. Yeah, I know, I'm not going to be an early
adopter, but that's fine with me. I have other more important things
to put my money toward, like a cross country move. (smiles).

Just my thoughts,
Scott

On 4/9/15, Rick Alfaro rick.alf...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi, yes, the watch has a speaker, and calls taken on the watch behave like
 using a speaker phone. Of course you can use a BlueTooth headset in addition
 to the watch if concerned about privacy. That is what I've surmised from
 reading various reviews anyhow.



 Best regards,

 Rick Alfaro

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Ron Pelletier
 Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2015 1:46 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Whose ordering the Apple watch?

 Hi Rick,

 Am I right to assume that all calls you take on your watch will be with open
 speaker and therefore, not private?  If I'm on a bus, restaurant or any
 other public place, I don't really like the idea of people around me hearing
 the other end of the conversation, so short as it may be.  I've been using a
 cell phone for 25 years and it took me a long time even to accept the idea
 of answering my phone in public.  Maybe that's because there weren't very
 many cell phones around and too many people who had them talked as loud as
 they could so that everyone around realized they were important enough to
 have a cell phone.  Back then, I was totally blind and a piano tuner and
 loved my phone because I was on the road all day and found it very
 convenient to be able to call my next customer for instructions to get to
 their house and not to pretend that I was a very famous brain surgeon who
 had to be on call at all times.

 Ron  Danvers

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Rick Alfaro
 Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 1:03 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Whose ordering the Apple watch?

 Hi Mary.

 I currently alternate through 2 watches, a Tisot Silent T, and a watch that
 is both Braille and talking. I frequently use the BEM speaker band but it
 isn't a watch.

 Here are my reasons for getting the Apple watch.

 1. I'm a geek and just can't help myself. (lol) 2. I look forward to not
 having to take my phone off of my belt case every time a notification comes
 in and getting haptec alerts on my wrist.
 3. I also look forward to being able to read and reply to text messages via
 the watch again without having to fumble for my phone.
 4. Making and receiving calls right on the watch also really appeals to me.

 After reading the many hands-on reviews around, I'm sure there will be some
 other functions that I'll use daily. I think it's really a matter of
 convenience. I do agree however that it won't be for everyone and the things
 that appeal to me might be a turn off for others.

 My only concern is that it's a 1.0 product and I think we all know how that
 could go but again the geek in me says go for it Dude!

 Some of the functionality coming with the Apple watch I was actually getting
 with the BEM speaker band but alas it isn't a watch.

 Best regards,

 Rick Alfaro

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Mary Otten
 Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2015 11:50 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Whose ordering the Apple watch?

 Hi Rick,
 As I said in a different thread, I won't be ordering an Apple Watch.
 However, I would be very interested to know why you are. Do you now use a
 braille watch? Just curious. I can't imagine not having a braille watch,
 it's so convenient for what it is. And I also I'm just not seeing any upside
 to having to watch the Apple one that is. So, I do respect your opinion and
 your tech savvy, so would love to know why you are going to be up at 3 AM to
 place your order. Good luck with it.
 Mary


 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 8, 2015, at 8:03 AM, Rick Alfaro rick.alf...@gmail.com wrote:

 Pre-ordering begins on April 10th at 12:01pdt, 03:01EDT.  I'm curious
 how many of you will be ordering 1. I have a feeling that not many are
 for various reasons. If you are, which model? Anyone ordering the
 $10,000 version? (lol)

 I actually will be one of the suckers up at 3am placing my order for
 the Sport model with a black band.

 Anyone else?



 Best regards,

 Rick Alfaro


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