Re: Open Library.org with Adobe acrobat

2016-08-14 Thread Ann Smith 
Well, a bunch of these books are as early as 1894 and up through the 80s and 
stuff. I don't know if they would still consider that protected Daisy. Says 
protected days you next to it. Should I just stay out of the Daisy section, and 
go through the EPUB section
Archive.org says it has some kind of a book reader, so you can read the 
electronic books. I can't find it. I'm in St. Louis Missouri, so I don't think 
open library is affiliated with our overdrive service year.
Quite a lot of upside like to read off of there. His books are so old, you can 
get them from Kendall or other typical places for the blind.
Sorry about the typos.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 14, 2016, at 6:19 PM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
> 
> The DAISY Copyright protected books from the Open Library cannot be
> accessed on an iPhone or computer.  Only devices that play NLS talking
> books can access them like the Bookport Plus, victor Stream and
> Braille Note.  NLS has a list of supported devices online or you could
> call your regional library and someone can read you the list.  Of
> course, Open Library books whose copyright has expired can be read on
> the iPhone as plain text files.
> 
> The Open Library books have not been edited or formatted.  They were
> digitized by high speed scanners with automatic page turners.  These
> books are what books would be like from a volunteer Bookshare scanner
> before they are carefully proofread by a volunteer proofreader.
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
> 
>> On 8/14/16, Ann Smith  wrote:
>> I have an active account with my regional library. Many of these open
>> library books are protected Daisy. Where can I find or access the key to be
>> able to read them and voice dream reader, or Adobe? I'm not real proficient
>> want to comes to all this computer language. Thanks in advance.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 14, 2016, at 9:03 AM, Richard Turner 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The open library has lots and lots of material, but I've never found them
>>> terribly well formatted.
>>> If you want the DAISY version, you don't want to follow the link that
>>> says, "read online" you follow the book title link, then the link to
>>> "editions" then the daisy link, then the link that says download DAISY
>>> zip.
>>> At that link, you can get the "more" button and then download it directly
>>> into Voice Dream Reader.
>>> But, as I have found, nothing is marked up beyond the beginning of the
>>> book.
>>> The same with the ePub versions.
>>> There are often dozens if not hundreds of editions to pick from.
>>> Good luck,
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "Common sense is in spite of, not as the result of education." -Victor
>>> Hugo
>>> (Sent from my iPod 6)
>>> 
 On Aug 14, 2016, at 4:58 AM, Ann Smith  wrote:
 
 
 
 Good morning, somebody help me install Adobe editions did you do all the
 other day. I am trying to use open Library.org, which is book lending
 service that gives daisy as well as electronic books via archive.org.
 I am in venture some raider, and looking for all kinds of ways to get
 free and low-cost books.
 Now, I understand you need Adobe Digital editions to read sometimes of
 electronic books. I'm already to go there. However, when I check out and
 open library book, it says read in browser. How do I get that done? Says
 each book for one webpage or something like that.
 Thank you and advance for any help. I went looking for their special book
 reader in the App Store, and could not find it. Sent from my iPhone
 
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RE: VoiceOver volume problem

2016-08-14 Thread Ron 
Hi,

 

The fact that Roger switches to the ear piece from the speaker is not new with 
the last update.  It was doing it before the update.  They sure have a lot to 
work on in this app.  I also hate the fact that when I tell it I don’t want 
notifications, it asks me again every time I stop the microphone.  I should be 
able to turn off notifications and then not be bothered with a question every 
time I transmit a message.

This has been reported so, I guess we have to give them time to work on it.  
They should look at fixing what needs to be fixed before trying to bring in new 
features.  Creating a group and inviting people to it is not as easy as it 
could be.

 

Ron & Danvers

 

Ron & Danvers

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Shawn Krasniuk
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2016 3:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VoiceOver volume problem

 

Hi Kate. This is new in Roger. What you're describing is a new feature called 
live mode which behaves the way you described. It can be turned off in settings 
or find the settings button and flick right. Double tap on that and Roger will 
behave the way it did before the update. I like it on but I can see where it 
can get annoying especially in groups.

 

Shawn

Sent From My White MacBook

Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk

Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs

Skype username: bbstheblindrapper

Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com  

 

On Aug 14, 2016, at 2:20 AM, Caitlyn Furness  > wrote:

 

I think it’s definitely Roger doing this somehow.

 

I will usually just double tap with two fingers, causing my chosen audio 
whatever to play(usually the book I am currently reading), wait for the book to 
come on, then two finger double tap again, and things are back to normal.

 

the other weird thing that’s happened since the new Roger update is that Roger 
messages will suddenly start playing, even if the app is closed, and even 
though I don’t have Roger in the notifications list.

 

I have written the app developers in hopes they will fix this issue!

 

Cait

 

On Aug 13, 2016, at 7:55 PM, Gordon  > wrote:

 

One thing I can tell you about this volume issue is that I had to delete Roger 
from my Android phone because a recent Roger update caused the same issue 
you're describing with the volume. I never installed Roger on my iPhone, but 
the volume issue you're describing is exactly the same.  

 

On 8/13/2016 6:53 PM, Chip Orange wrote:

Hi all,

 

Lately I’ve been having a problem where the VoiceOver volume will suddenly drop 
to an inaudible level for no apparent reason.  If I go to the sounds settings 
it often will be restored to the proper level, and if I talk to Siri I find the 
standard sound level is not affected (that is, it’s fine).

 

Restarting VoiceOver and/or Restarting the phone does not cure the problem.

 

I think this began around 9.3.4, but I also received a new Roger update around 
the same time, so it could be either, or perhaps even some other update.

 

Are others noticing this, and do you have any ideas on what to do?  I did call 
Apple support, and they had me turn off VoiceOver and restart the phone, but 
this only solved the issue for a short time before it recurred.  They hinted 
that perhaps resetting all settings may help, but that people often complained 
about this as a debugging step (and I don’t know how to do it, and they never 
did tell me).

 

 

Thanks,

 

Chip

 

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Iphone devices

2016-08-14 Thread Jeremy Gilley 
Hello all,

 

So, I notice under my ITunes it says I have 3 devises that can download
stuff.

I don't have 3 devices to download stuff on. When I try to click on the
remove button on 2 of them, they are grayed out.

Anyone know how I can remove these devices?

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RE: VoiceOver volume problem

2016-08-14 Thread Ron 
Hi,

 

Are you sure the volume drop is not because the sound has switched to the ear 
piece? I have had that problem and I can bring it back by asking Siri a 
question.  Are you, by any chance, using the Roger app.  That is the app that 
seems to cause the problem for me.   

 

Ron & Danvers

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 7:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: VoiceOver volume problem

 

Hi all,

 

Lately I’ve been having a problem where the VoiceOver volume will suddenly drop 
to an inaudible level for no apparent reason.  If I go to the sounds settings 
it often will be restored to the proper level, and if I talk to Siri I find the 
standard sound level is not affected (that is, it’s fine).

 

Restarting VoiceOver and/or Restarting the phone does not cure the problem.

 

I think this began around 9.3.4, but I also received a new Roger update around 
the same time, so it could be either, or perhaps even some other update.

 

Are others noticing this, and do you have any ideas on what to do?  I did call 
Apple support, and they had me turn off VoiceOver and restart the phone, but 
this only solved the issue for a short time before it recurred.  They hinted 
that perhaps resetting all settings may help, but that people often complained 
about this as a debugging step (and I don’t know how to do it, and they never 
did tell me).

 

 

Thanks,

 

Chip

 

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mlb on espn radio

2016-08-14 Thread david gross 
I can confirm there is a link to the sunday night mlb game on the radio tab of 
the espn app.

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Re: Open Library.org with Adobe acrobat

2016-08-14 Thread Kelly Pierce 
The DAISY Copyright protected books from the Open Library cannot be
accessed on an iPhone or computer.  Only devices that play NLS talking
books can access them like the Bookport Plus, victor Stream and
Braille Note.  NLS has a list of supported devices online or you could
call your regional library and someone can read you the list.  Of
course, Open Library books whose copyright has expired can be read on
the iPhone as plain text files.

The Open Library books have not been edited or formatted.  They were
digitized by high speed scanners with automatic page turners.  These
books are what books would be like from a volunteer Bookshare scanner
before they are carefully proofread by a volunteer proofreader.

Kelly



On 8/14/16, Ann Smith  wrote:
> I have an active account with my regional library. Many of these open
> library books are protected Daisy. Where can I find or access the key to be
> able to read them and voice dream reader, or Adobe? I'm not real proficient
> want to comes to all this computer language. Thanks in advance.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Aug 14, 2016, at 9:03 AM, Richard Turner 
>> wrote:
>>
>> The open library has lots and lots of material, but I've never found them
>> terribly well formatted.
>> If you want the DAISY version, you don't want to follow the link that
>> says, "read online" you follow the book title link, then the link to
>> "editions" then the daisy link, then the link that says download DAISY
>> zip.
>> At that link, you can get the "more" button and then download it directly
>> into Voice Dream Reader.
>> But, as I have found, nothing is marked up beyond the beginning of the
>> book.
>> The same with the ePub versions.
>> There are often dozens if not hundreds of editions to pick from.
>> Good luck,
>> Richard
>>
>>
>> "Common sense is in spite of, not as the result of education." -Victor
>> Hugo
>> (Sent from my iPod 6)
>>
>> On Aug 14, 2016, at 4:58 AM, Ann Smith  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Good morning, somebody help me install Adobe editions did you do all the
>>> other day. I am trying to use open Library.org, which is book lending
>>> service that gives daisy as well as electronic books via archive.org.
>>> I am in venture some raider, and looking for all kinds of ways to get
>>> free and low-cost books.
>>> Now, I understand you need Adobe Digital editions to read sometimes of
>>> electronic books. I'm already to go there. However, when I check out and
>>> open library book, it says read in browser. How do I get that done? Says
>>> each book for one webpage or something like that.
>>> Thank you and advance for any help. I went looking for their special book
>>> reader in the App Store, and could not find it. Sent from my iPhone
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Removing A Book From Bard App Wish List When Remove Doesn't Work

2016-08-14 Thread Arnold Schmidt 

This mainly will be of use to those who have accumulated hundreds of books on 
their wish list, and look up a book they wish to add to their list, only to 
discover that it already is on the list. The remove from list button, which 
appears at the end of the annotation will not remove it and searching through 
all those books to find it so it can be downloaded is about more trouble than 
it is worth. What to do? When your search finds the book, tap the title of the 
book, and a dialogue will appear, containing additional information about the 
book. At the end of this information is a remove button that will remove it. 
One then has to look up the book again to add it back to the wish list, but now 
it is at the beginning so it easily can be downloaded. 

Arnold Schmidt 
 App 

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Re: How Can I Review Voice Messages I've Sent with the Roger App?

2016-08-14 Thread Christina C. 
You can’t but if you want ot do a sound check you can start a conversation with 
rogerbot to test to hear back how you sound.

Christina
> On Aug 7, 2016, at 6:54 PM, Beverly  wrote:
> 
> You can't.  
>  
>  
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Alan Lemly 
>> To: VIPhone Email List 
>> Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 2:04 PM
>> Subject: How Can I Review Voice Messages I've Sent with the Roger App?
>> 
>> I just listened to the AppleVis podcast on the Roger app and am trying it on 
>> my iPhone 6. I like its audio quality and how it allows me to send voice 
>> messages. I tested the app by recording a voice message to one of my 
>> contacts not yet on Roger but I can't figure out how to review what I 
>> recorded and sent.
>>  
>> Can anyone with more experience with the Roger app tell me how I can review 
>> the Rogers I've sent? I tried opening the link which was in the text that I 
>> sent containing my first Roger message but I couldn't figure out how to hear 
>> the recording.
>>  
>> Thanks in advance for any assistance you can offer.
>>  
>> Alan Lemly
>> 
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Re: Open Library.org with Adobe acrobat

2016-08-14 Thread Ann Smith 
I have an active account with my regional library. Many of these open library 
books are protected Daisy. Where can I find or access the key to be able to 
read them and voice dream reader, or Adobe? I'm not real proficient want to 
comes to all this computer language. Thanks in advance.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 14, 2016, at 9:03 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> The open library has lots and lots of material, but I've never found them 
> terribly well formatted.
> If you want the DAISY version, you don't want to follow the link that says, 
> "read online" you follow the book title link, then the link to "editions" 
> then the daisy link, then the link that says download DAISY zip.
> At that link, you can get the "more" button and then download it directly 
> into Voice Dream Reader.
> But, as I have found, nothing is marked up beyond the beginning of the book.
> The same with the ePub versions.
> There are often dozens if not hundreds of editions to pick from.
> Good luck,
> Richard
> 
> 
> "Common sense is in spite of, not as the result of education." -Victor Hugo
> (Sent from my iPod 6)
> 
> On Aug 14, 2016, at 4:58 AM, Ann Smith  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Good morning, somebody help me install Adobe editions did you do all the 
>> other day. I am trying to use open Library.org, which is book lending 
>> service that gives daisy as well as electronic books via archive.org. 
>> I am in venture some raider, and looking for all kinds of ways to get free 
>> and low-cost books. 
>> Now, I understand you need Adobe Digital editions to read sometimes of 
>> electronic books. I'm already to go there. However, when I check out and 
>> open library book, it says read in browser. How do I get that done? Says 
>> each book for one webpage or something like that. 
>> Thank you and advance for any help. I went looking for their special book 
>> reader in the App Store, and could not find it. Sent from my iPhone
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RE: PRESSING A NUMBER TO ANSWER A CALL ON THE IPHONE

2016-08-14 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
Is your keypad showing? If you see the phone number and buttons such as Mute, 
Speaker and so on you need to find a button called “Keypad”, double tap it and 
at that point that keypad will show and you can press any numbers you need.
Similarly, if you are on a call and the keypad is showing, but maybe you want 
to mute the call or start a 3-way call you will have to find the “Hide” button 
which is at the bottom right and it will hide the keypad and give you access to 
all the other buttons.
It takes a bit of practice to bring up the keypad quickly if you need it, but 
it can be done.


Regards,
Sieghard


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John J. Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2016 8:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: PRESSING A NUMBER TO ANSWER A CALL ON THE IPHONE

Hi: When I receive a call on the iPhone with options, such as "push one to 
accept" I can't get the numbers to sound, because voice over is speaking and 
the phone number from the incoming call is on the screen. I'm sure you guys 
have a solution, I just don't know what it is.
Thanks very much.
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RE: iTunes 12.3.4 or whatever it is isa mess

2016-08-14 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
I would differ with that statement. When iTunes did a major change of it’s user 
interface from version 11 to version 12 many features such as syncing apps or 
syncing files for specific apps became mostly unuseable. That is not because 
Jaws or whichever other screenreader can’t handle this, but it’s because of the 
way this is done in iTunes.
In one of the lesser updates not long ago suddenly Jaws won’t read the genre, 
artist and album columns of the column browser any more. If it’s not because of 
something Apple did in iTunes then why is that if it worked perfectly fine 
before?
If Apple used HTML5 programming and followed web accessibility guidelines for 
iCloud.com, the iCloud.com site would probably be perfectly accessible.
Accessibility happens on several levels and really good accessibility is a 
result of application and web designers making it possible for screenreader 
designers to work with what is there.
If Apple had no such framework in place for iOS apps, for example, Voiceover 
accessibility would not exist.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gary Petraccaro
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 10:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes 12.3.4 or whatever it is isa mess

ITunes doesn't break anything.  It doesn't change itself.  It's not iTunes.

- Original Message -
From: Cher Bosch
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 3:51 PM
Subject: RE: iTunes 12.3.4 or whatever it is isa mess

Yes! This is especially true when iTunes keeps breaking things on each new 
incremental update. It seems egotistical and insane for them to suggest that 
the screen readers should come out with a fix every month or so for what they 
have arbitrarily broken ☹

Cher


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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 4:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: itunes 12.3.4 or whatever it is isa mess

I think this is definitely an Apple Accessibility issue since while the 
screenreader makers like Jaws/Window Eyes, NVDA etc. also need to do their 
part, I think there ust is not enough cooperation between Apple and them. It’s 
like Microsoft and Jaws, if you listened to Jonathan’s recent Podcast where he 
interviewed this guy from Microsoft who said that Microsoft has done and is 
doing a bunch of stuff to make things better and they are providing Jaws with 
the framework to make the experience better. It seems to me that Apple somehow 
is not doing this with iTunes and this comes down to a basic commitment by 
Apple to make iTunes as accessible as possible on the Mac with Voiceover and on 
the PC with Jaws, Window Eyes and NVDA.


Regards,
Sieghard

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2016 10:38 AM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
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Subject: RE: itunes 12.3.4 or whatever it is isa mess

Hi Sieghard,

Do you suggest writing to Apple Accessibility or Apple.com/feedback? Thanks, 
Keith

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2016 8:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: itunes 12.3.4 or whatever it is isa mess

Hi Larry and others,

There was an iTunes update yesterday, the current version is iTunes Version 
12.4.3.1. Unfortunately little seems to be fixed and certainly newer versions 
of iTunes 12 have taken steps backward with respect to accessibility. If you 
use the column browser with Genres, Artists and Albums, these list views are 
not read (at least not by the latest version of Jaws 17). 2 or 3 versions ago 
it would read them and, for some reason, say “L1” in front of whatever else it 
said, now it will just say List View.
I am going to write to Apple accessibility since while I use iTunes less 
frequently in connection with my iPhone, I still may want to use it at home on 
my PC and of course there are some tasks like syncing Ringtones etc. one can 
only do with iTunes. As Brian Tong from the AppleByte Podcast always says when 
Apple has dropped the ball on something, I would call this a “bad Apple”. 
Hopefully others will join me in writing about better iTunes accessibility. 
There are I think around 2,000 members on this list now and even if only 1 out 
of 4 took the time to send a message, maybe if Apple Accessibility received 500 
messages they’ll understand that this should be addressed. It would certainly 
be more effective than only 5 messages. And while people are at it, why not 
make the subject “Accessibility of iTunes and iCloud.com which

Braille Easy Keyboard

2016-08-14 Thread christopher hallsworth 
Hello everyone.

While I much prefer Braille Screen Input on iOS, I discovered with interest a 
post on the Applevis website
www.applevis.com
about a tutorial and third party keyboard app called Braille Easy. This app 
lets you type Braille in one hand. This reminds me a lot of another Braille 
typing application, TypeInBraille, except this one is I think better because at 
least Braille Easy Keyboard can be used system wide whereas TypeInBraille as of 
today cannot. The only drawback is it cannot do contracted Braille, and the 
only languages supported are English and Arabic. Having said that, it’s 
interesting. Oh by the way it is free compared to TypeInBraille which is paid 
last I checked. Go search the app store for Braille Easy. Happy typing.


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Request for Help with Numbers for iOS

2016-08-14 Thread M. Taylor 
Hello Everyone,

I need a little help with getting started with the Numbers app, for iOS.  

If there is anyone who would be willing to have a short voice conversation
either on the telephone or via Skype, I would appreciate it a great deal.

My questions are not complicated but, as time is a factor, I would much
prefer to talk rather than type so as to better grasp the nuances of various
concepts.  

Please send me a reply, off-list, to mk...@ucla.edu with your contact info
and availability.

Thank you,

Mark

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RE: VoiceOver volume problem

2016-08-14 Thread Chip Orange 
Hi,

 

As for Roger messages suddenly playing, this is due to a new setting of theirs 
which they have placed on the main screen of Roger, not in its Settings area; 
it is called “Live play” or something similar.  It’s not a bug, but incredibly 
is designed to do this.

 

Chip

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Caitlyn Furness
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2016 3:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VoiceOver volume problem

 

I think it’s definitely Roger doing this somehow.

 

I will usually just double tap with two fingers, causing my chosen audio 
whatever to play(usually the book I am currently reading), wait for the book to 
come on, then two finger double tap again, and things are back to normal.

 

the other weird thing that’s happened since the new Roger update is that Roger 
messages will suddenly start playing, even if the app is closed, and even 
though I don’t have Roger in the notifications list.

 

I have written the app developers in hopes they will fix this issue!

 

Cait

 

On Aug 13, 2016, at 7:55 PM, Gordon  wrote:

 

One thing I can tell you about this volume issue is that I had to delete Roger 
from my Android phone because a recent Roger update caused the same issue 
you're describing with the volume. I never installed Roger on my iPhone, but 
the volume issue you're describing is exactly the same.  

 

On 8/13/2016 6:53 PM, Chip Orange wrote:

Hi all,

 

Lately I’ve been having a problem where the VoiceOver volume will suddenly drop 
to an inaudible level for no apparent reason.  If I go to the sounds settings 
it often will be restored to the proper level, and if I talk to Siri I find the 
standard sound level is not affected (that is, it’s fine).

 

Restarting VoiceOver and/or Restarting the phone does not cure the problem.

 

I think this began around 9.3.4, but I also received a new Roger update around 
the same time, so it could be either, or perhaps even some other update.

 

Are others noticing this, and do you have any ideas on what to do?  I did call 
Apple support, and they had me turn off VoiceOver and restart the phone, but 
this only solved the issue for a short time before it recurred.  They hinted 
that perhaps resetting all settings may help, but that people often complained 
about this as a debugging step (and I don’t know how to do it, and they never 
did tell me).

 

 

Thanks,

 

Chip

 

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PRESSING A NUMBER TO ANSWER A CALL ON THE IPHONE

2016-08-14 Thread John J. Fioravanti, Jr. 
Hi: When I receive a call on the iPhone with options, such as "push one to
accept" I can't get the numbers to sound, because voice over is speaking and
the phone number from the incoming call is on the screen. I'm sure you guys
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Re: Open Library.org with Adobe acrobat

2016-08-14 Thread Richard Turner 

Thanks Russ, but when I followed your link for the frequently asked questions I 
got this:
We’re sorry, the page you have requested is not available.


"Common sense is in spite of, not as the result of education." -Victor Hugo
(Sent from my iPod 6)

On Aug 14, 2016, at 7:42 AM, Russ Kiehne 
> wrote:

The daisy books from open library have the following read me file:
This DAISY book is encrypted with a key from the National Library
Service, and may be read on appropriate reading devices with the key
installed.

For more information, see http://archive.org/daisy/FAQ.html or
https://nlsbard.loc.gov/

From: Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2016 7:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Open Library.org with Adobe acrobat

The open library has lots and lots of material, but I've never found them 
terribly well formatted.
If you want the DAISY version, you don't want to follow the link that says, 
"read online" you follow the book title link, then the link to "editions" then 
the daisy link, then the link that says download DAISY zip.
At that link, you can get the "more" button and then download it directly into 
Voice Dream Reader.
But, as I have found, nothing is marked up beyond the beginning of the book.
The same with the ePub versions.
There are often dozens if not hundreds of editions to pick from.
Good luck,
Richard


"Common sense is in spite of, not as the result of education." -Victor Hugo
(Sent from my iPod 6)

On Aug 14, 2016, at 4:58 AM, Ann Smith  wrote:



Good morning, somebody help me install Adobe editions did you do all the other 
day. I am trying to use open Library.org, which is book 
lending service that gives daisy as well as electronic books via 
archive.org.
I am in venture some raider, and looking for all kinds of ways to get free and 
low-cost books.
Now, I understand you need Adobe Digital editions to read sometimes of 
electronic books. I'm already to go there. However, when I check out and open 
library book, it says read in browser. How do I get that done? Says each book 
for one webpage or something like that.
Thank you and advance for any help. I went looking for their special book 
reader in the App Store, and could not find it. Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Open Library.org with Adobe acrobat

2016-08-14 Thread Russ Kiehne 
The daisy books from open library have the following read me file:
This DAISY book is encrypted with a key from the National Library
Service, and may be read on appropriate reading devices with the key
installed.

For more information, see http://archive.org/daisy/FAQ.html or
https://nlsbard.loc.gov/

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2016 7:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Open Library.org with Adobe acrobat

The open library has lots and lots of material, but I've never found them 
terribly well formatted.
If you want the DAISY version, you don't want to follow the link that says, 
"read online" you follow the book title link, then the link to "editions" then 
the daisy link, then the link that says download DAISY zip.
At that link, you can get the "more" button and then download it directly into 
Voice Dream Reader.
But, as I have found, nothing is marked up beyond the beginning of the book.
The same with the ePub versions.
There are often dozens if not hundreds of editions to pick from.
Good luck,
Richard


"Common sense is in spite of, not as the result of education." -Victor Hugo

(Sent from my iPod 6)

On Aug 14, 2016, at 4:58 AM, Ann Smith  wrote:




  Good morning, somebody help me install Adobe editions did you do all the 
other day. I am trying to use open Library.org, which is book lending service 
that gives daisy as well as electronic books via archive.org. 
  I am in venture some raider, and looking for all kinds of ways to get free 
and low-cost books. 
  Now, I understand you need Adobe Digital editions to read sometimes of 
electronic books. I'm already to go there. However, when I check out and open 
library book, it says read in browser. How do I get that done? Says each book 
for one webpage or something like that. 
  Thank you and advance for any help. I went looking for their special book 
reader in the App Store, and could not find it. Sent from my iPhone

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Sorry, that was meant for a different list

2016-08-14 Thread Deidre Muccio 
Oh, sorry, that was meant for a list call blind like me, not the Viphone list..

Deidre

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Movies on YouTube

2016-08-14 Thread Deidre Muccio 
Hey there, has anyone noticed how many full movies on YouTube? Hell with 
Netflix. Anyway I just watched two this morning Proof which features a blind 
guy and Russell Crowe. And blink which features madeleine Stowe is a blind 
woman. Both are superb little movies. The latter has kind of a hokey ending but 
it doesn't really matter the acting is pretty damn good and the characters are 
very realistic or at least in the latter movie Blink. Give them  a try!

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Re: Open Library.org with Adobe acrobat

2016-08-14 Thread Richard Turner 
The open library has lots and lots of material, but I've never found them 
terribly well formatted.
If you want the DAISY version, you don't want to follow the link that says, 
"read online" you follow the book title link, then the link to "editions" then 
the daisy link, then the link that says download DAISY zip.
At that link, you can get the "more" button and then download it directly into 
Voice Dream Reader.
But, as I have found, nothing is marked up beyond the beginning of the book.
The same with the ePub versions.
There are often dozens if not hundreds of editions to pick from.
Good luck,
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Good morning, somebody help me install Adobe editions did you do all the other 
day. I am trying to use open Library.org, which is book 
lending service that gives daisy as well as electronic books via 
archive.org.
I am in venture some raider, and looking for all kinds of ways to get free and 
low-cost books.
Now, I understand you need Adobe Digital editions to read sometimes of 
electronic books. I'm already to go there. However, when I check out and open 
library book, it says read in browser. How do I get that done? Says each book 
for one webpage or something like that.
Thank you and advance for any help. I went looking for their special book 
reader in the App Store, and could not find it. Sent from my iPhone

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Open Library.org with Adobe acrobat

2016-08-14 Thread Ann Smith 


Good morning, somebody help me install Adobe editions did you do all the other 
day. I am trying to use open Library.org, which is book lending service that 
gives daisy as well as electronic books via archive.org. 
I am in venture some raider, and looking for all kinds of ways to get free and 
low-cost books. 
Now, I understand you need Adobe Digital editions to read sometimes of 
electronic books. I'm already to go there. However, when I check out and open 
library book, it says read in browser. How do I get that done? Says each book 
for one webpage or something like that. 
Thank you and advance for any help. I went looking for their special book 
reader in the App Store, and could not find it. Sent from my iPhone

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Re: VoiceOver volume problem

2016-08-14 Thread Caitlyn Furness 
Oh, thanks so much!!

I can also see where it could be nice, but I am on an active group on there and 
it can get annoying, really fast!

thanks again!
Caitlyn

> On Aug 14, 2016, at 3:50 AM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
> 
> Hi Kate. This is new in Roger. What you're describing is a new feature called 
> live mode which behaves the way you described. It can be turned off in 
> settings or find the settings button and flick right. Double tap on that and 
> Roger will behave the way it did before the update. I like it on but I can 
> see where it can get annoying especially in groups.
> 
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook
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>> On Aug 14, 2016, at 2:20 AM, Caitlyn Furness > > wrote:
>> 
>> I think it’s definitely Roger doing this somehow.
>> 
>> I will usually just double tap with two fingers, causing my chosen audio 
>> whatever to play(usually the book I am currently reading), wait for the book 
>> to come on, then two finger double tap again, and things are back to normal.
>> 
>> the other weird thing that’s happened since the new Roger update is that 
>> Roger messages will suddenly start playing, even if the app is closed, and 
>> even though I don’t have Roger in the notifications list.
>> 
>> I have written the app developers in hopes they will fix this issue!
>> 
>> Cait
>> 
>>> On Aug 13, 2016, at 7:55 PM, Gordon >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> One thing I can tell you about this volume issue is that I had to delete 
>>> Roger from my Android phone because a recent Roger update caused the same 
>>> issue you're describing with the volume. I never installed Roger on my 
>>> iPhone, but the volume issue you're describing is exactly the same.  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 8/13/2016 6:53 PM, Chip Orange wrote:
 Hi all,
  
 Lately I’ve been having a problem where the VoiceOver volume will suddenly 
 drop to an inaudible level for no apparent reason.  If I go to the sounds 
 settings it often will be restored to the proper level, and if I talk to 
 Siri I find the standard sound level is not affected (that is, it’s fine).
  
 Restarting VoiceOver and/or Restarting the phone does not cure the problem.
  
 I think this began around 9.3.4, but I also received a new Roger update 
 around the same time, so it could be either, or perhaps even some other 
 update.
  
 Are others noticing this, and do you have any ideas on what to do?  I did 
 call Apple support, and they had me turn off VoiceOver and restart the 
 phone, but this only solved the issue for a short time before it recurred. 
  They hinted that perhaps resetting all settings may help, but that people 
 often complained about this as a debugging step (and I don’t know how to 
 do it, and they never did tell me).
  
  
 Thanks,
  
 Chip
  
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Re: VoiceOver volume problem

2016-08-14 Thread Shawn Krasniuk 
Hi Kate. This is new in Roger. What you're describing is a new feature called 
live mode which behaves the way you described. It can be turned off in settings 
or find the settings button and flick right. Double tap on that and Roger will 
behave the way it did before the update. I like it on but I can see where it 
can get annoying especially in groups.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook
Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com

> On Aug 14, 2016, at 2:20 AM, Caitlyn Furness  
> wrote:
> 
> I think it’s definitely Roger doing this somehow.
> 
> I will usually just double tap with two fingers, causing my chosen audio 
> whatever to play(usually the book I am currently reading), wait for the book 
> to come on, then two finger double tap again, and things are back to normal.
> 
> the other weird thing that’s happened since the new Roger update is that 
> Roger messages will suddenly start playing, even if the app is closed, and 
> even though I don’t have Roger in the notifications list.
> 
> I have written the app developers in hopes they will fix this issue!
> 
> Cait
> 
>> On Aug 13, 2016, at 7:55 PM, Gordon > > wrote:
>> 
>> One thing I can tell you about this volume issue is that I had to delete 
>> Roger from my Android phone because a recent Roger update caused the same 
>> issue you're describing with the volume. I never installed Roger on my 
>> iPhone, but the volume issue you're describing is exactly the same.  
>> 
>> 
>> On 8/13/2016 6:53 PM, Chip Orange wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>  
>>> Lately I’ve been having a problem where the VoiceOver volume will suddenly 
>>> drop to an inaudible level for no apparent reason.  If I go to the sounds 
>>> settings it often will be restored to the proper level, and if I talk to 
>>> Siri I find the standard sound level is not affected (that is, it’s fine).
>>>  
>>> Restarting VoiceOver and/or Restarting the phone does not cure the problem.
>>>  
>>> I think this began around 9.3.4, but I also received a new Roger update 
>>> around the same time, so it could be either, or perhaps even some other 
>>> update.
>>>  
>>> Are others noticing this, and do you have any ideas on what to do?  I did 
>>> call Apple support, and they had me turn off VoiceOver and restart the 
>>> phone, but this only solved the issue for a short time before it recurred.  
>>> They hinted that perhaps resetting all settings may help, but that people 
>>> often complained about this as a debugging step (and I don’t know how to do 
>>> it, and they never did tell me).
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Thanks,
>>>  
>>> Chip
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Re: VoiceOver volume problem

2016-08-14 Thread Caitlyn Furness 
I think it’s definitely Roger doing this somehow.

I will usually just double tap with two fingers, causing my chosen audio 
whatever to play(usually the book I am currently reading), wait for the book to 
come on, then two finger double tap again, and things are back to normal.

the other weird thing that’s happened since the new Roger update is that Roger 
messages will suddenly start playing, even if the app is closed, and even 
though I don’t have Roger in the notifications list.

I have written the app developers in hopes they will fix this issue!

Cait

> On Aug 13, 2016, at 7:55 PM, Gordon  wrote:
> 
> One thing I can tell you about this volume issue is that I had to delete 
> Roger from my Android phone because a recent Roger update caused the same 
> issue you're describing with the volume. I never installed Roger on my 
> iPhone, but the volume issue you're describing is exactly the same.  
> 
> 
> On 8/13/2016 6:53 PM, Chip Orange wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>  
>> Lately I’ve been having a problem where the VoiceOver volume will suddenly 
>> drop to an inaudible level for no apparent reason.  If I go to the sounds 
>> settings it often will be restored to the proper level, and if I talk to 
>> Siri I find the standard sound level is not affected (that is, it’s fine).
>>  
>> Restarting VoiceOver and/or Restarting the phone does not cure the problem.
>>  
>> I think this began around 9.3.4, but I also received a new Roger update 
>> around the same time, so it could be either, or perhaps even some other 
>> update.
>>  
>> Are others noticing this, and do you have any ideas on what to do?  I did 
>> call Apple support, and they had me turn off VoiceOver and restart the 
>> phone, but this only solved the issue for a short time before it recurred.  
>> They hinted that perhaps resetting all settings may help, but that people 
>> often complained about this as a debugging step (and I don’t know how to do 
>> it, and they never did tell me).
>>  
>>  
>> Thanks,
>>  
>> Chip
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