RE: I-Drive From Kim Commando?

[Robert Wright]

I just installed iDrive but I am not finding it at all accessible. Once 
installed all NVDA sees is a tab.


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From: Fazil
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 11:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I-Drive From Kim Commando?

Hi, list.
Somebody gave here the website to back up i-drive from Kim Commando. I, 
inadvertently, deleted that URL, may I have it again, please?
Thanks!

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RE: Any Good Journaling or Diary Apps, Anyone?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Donna and All,

Okay, I reinstalled the app and all is now working perfectly.

Mark



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Donna
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2019 10:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Any Good Journaling or Diary Apps, Anyone?

Here is a link to the personal diary that I use. The app is completely 
accessible using voiceover. 
Personal Diary (Journal) App by Eng Tat Lim
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/personal-diary-journal-app/id1052570257

Donna


Hello All,

I downloaded Mac Journal for iPad a few weeks ago but, to be honest, I don't
really like it.  For one thing, it's kind of wonky when it comes to having
the data stored in iCloud.  

When I open the app on my iPhone, sometimes it sees the entries I've made on
iPad and sometimes, .  Now I do not have Mac Journal for Mac OS and I don't
plan on spending anymore money on this particular product.

So, can anyone recommend another VoiceOver accessible diary/journaling app?
It would be great if the app could store data on iCloud.

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark

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I-Drive From Kim Commando?

[Fazil]

Hi, list.

Somebody gave here the website to back up i-drive from Kim Commando. I,
inadvertently, deleted that URL, may I have it again, please?

Thanks!

 

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Re: the right hear app

[Richard Turner]

Perhaps checking out the web site will answer most of the questions:
https://right-hear.com/




> On Jul 1, 2019, at 9:37 PM, Julie Dawson  wrote:
> 
> I don't understand about the purchasing of beacons. Are the beacons then 
> accessed through the app or applied to your account somehow?
> With thanks,
> Julie
> Do you get some beacons with the app before purchase? It doesn't say in app 
> purchases.
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> - Original Message - From: "Tali Sarnetzky" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 7:11 PM
> Subject: Re: the right hear app
> 
> 
> Hi everyone.
> 
> I presented your questions to my friends at Right Hear.
> As Siegert said, the recording and labelling of places works when you
> get a GPS accuracy of under eight meters, which means it works best
> outside, in the Outdoors mode of the app. This can be useful when you
> learn a new route and need to label certain spots. You can record any
> text you wish, such as info about intersections you need to cross, the
> locations of bus stops, etc.
> 
> At the moment, the app works with a specific type of beacon, so it is
> best to purchase such beacons through the company. My friend told me a
> few beterans in the States have already done this to lable spots in
> their own house or workplace. There is a plan to offer support for
> more kinds of beacons in the near future, so it is just a matter of
> time.
> When you purchase beacons, you work through a website to enter the
> info you want and they are working all the time to make sure this part
> of the website is accessible as well.
> 
> In a couple of weeks, they are going to have a few webinars of
> questions and answers. I will post the dates and links as soon as I
> can. And as I have said before, they love hearing suggestions and
> getting feedback. From day one they have had the user's experience in
> first priority and that's why I love working with them.
> 
> Cheers,
> Tali
> 
> 
> 
>> On 7/1/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> Sandy,
>> 
>> At first when I recorded a label I thought it didn???t record anything but
>> then I realized that when I tapped on my recording that it did speak my
>> recorded word, but in a very low volume
>> 
>> From: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone 
>> Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 10:13 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: the right hear app
>> 
>> does anyone know what this means?
>> 
>> what is the focus with voice-over thing about?
>> Sent from The dark side of the moon
>> 
>> On 1 Jul 2019, at 17:07, Sieghard Weitzel
>> mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
>> I just downloaded this app and it looks very interesting, clean and simple.
>> The record button is right there (no pun intended) on the main screen.
>> All you have to do is to double tap on it to record a location. Keep in mind
>> that this only works if your GPS accuracy is at least 8 metres or better,
>> but it will tell you if it is not.
>> You can later on double tap and hold the recordings button if you want to
>> see a list of your recordings/locations.
>> Looks like this app uses information from Open Street maps which
>> unfortunately often can be quite outdated. For example, it shows the ???Hill
>> Top Pub??? which is supposed to be about 400 metres away except that this pub
>> has been closed for about 3 years.
>> Considering this is a free app which allows for turn by turn navigation to
>> an address or location as well as providing nearby information and so on
>> this is a nice app to have for people who don???t want to pay for Seeing Eye
>> or Nearby Explorer.
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
>> Andrew J. LaPointe
>> Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 7:56 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: the right hear app
>> 
>>The instructions says that you can record something via the menuHow
>> do you get to the area to record an item or area that you want to use at a
>> later time?
>> 
>> From: Dan
>> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 10:13 AM
>> To: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone
>> Subject: Re: the right hear app
>> 
>> 
>> I can see  use for the beacons in an unfamiliar very large environment.
>> However, if it is a commonly visited place and you have the time and help
>> you could just go to places within the site and record a label and then the
>> app would recognize it from then on when you visit again.  When I tried it
>> it 

Re: Seeking a VoiceOver Accessible Medicine Reminder App for iOS

[Maria Reyes]

Hi, I’ve only heard of an app that reminds you about pills, but I’m not sure of 
the name. Although there is this very simple reminder app called Alarmed where 
you can set reminders to take your medicine.

> On Jul 2, 2019, at 12:30 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> Well, the subject line says it all.  
> 
> Can anyone recommend a good VoiceOver accessible reminder app for taking
> different medicines throughout the day?
> 
> I don't mind if the app cost money as long as it is not based on a
> subscription.
> 
> All replies greatly appreciated.
> 
> Mark
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Re: the right hear app

[Julie Dawson]

I don't understand about the purchasing of beacons. Are the beacons then 
accessed through the app or applied to your account somehow?

With thanks,
Julie
Do you get some beacons with the app before purchase? It doesn't say in app 
purchases.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Tali Sarnetzky" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: the right hear app


Hi everyone.

I presented your questions to my friends at Right Hear.
As Siegert said, the recording and labelling of places works when you
get a GPS accuracy of under eight meters, which means it works best
outside, in the Outdoors mode of the app. This can be useful when you
learn a new route and need to label certain spots. You can record any
text you wish, such as info about intersections you need to cross, the
locations of bus stops, etc.

At the moment, the app works with a specific type of beacon, so it is
best to purchase such beacons through the company. My friend told me a
few beterans in the States have already done this to lable spots in
their own house or workplace. There is a plan to offer support for
more kinds of beacons in the near future, so it is just a matter of
time.
When you purchase beacons, you work through a website to enter the
info you want and they are working all the time to make sure this part
of the website is accessible as well.

In a couple of weeks, they are going to have a few webinars of
questions and answers. I will post the dates and links as soon as I
can. And as I have said before, they love hearing suggestions and
getting feedback. From day one they have had the user's experience in
first priority and that's why I love working with them.

Cheers,
Tali



On 7/1/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Sandy,

At first when I recorded a label I thought it didn???t record anything but
then I realized that when I tapped on my recording that it did speak my
recorded word, but in a very low volume

From: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone 
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 10:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the right hear app

does anyone know what this means?

what is the focus with voice-over thing about?
Sent from The dark side of the moon

On 1 Jul 2019, at 17:07, Sieghard Weitzel
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
I just downloaded this app and it looks very interesting, clean and 
simple.

The record button is right there (no pun intended) on the main screen.
All you have to do is to double tap on it to record a location. Keep in 
mind

that this only works if your GPS accuracy is at least 8 metres or better,
but it will tell you if it is not.
You can later on double tap and hold the recordings button if you want to
see a list of your recordings/locations.
Looks like this app uses information from Open Street maps which
unfortunately often can be quite outdated. For example, it shows the ???Hill
Top Pub??? which is supposed to be about 400 metres away except that this 
pub

has been closed for about 3 years.
Considering this is a free app which allows for turn by turn navigation to
an address or location as well as providing nearby information and so on
this is a nice app to have for people who don???t want to pay for Seeing Eye
or Nearby Explorer.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
Andrew J. LaPointe
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 7:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the right hear app

The instructions says that you can record something via the 
menuHow

do you get to the area to record an item or area that you want to use at a
later time?

From: Dan
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 10:13 AM
To: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone
Subject: Re: the right hear app


I can see  use for the beacons in an unfamiliar very large environment.
However, if it is a commonly visited place and you have the time and help
you could just go to places within the site and record a label and then 
the

app would recognize it from then on when you visit again.  When I tried it
it actually got me within a few feet if I missed it.  I am considering 
using
it for when I am working in the yard.  I can drop a tool or bag of tools 
or

whatever.  I can then record the label for that location and if I need to
get back to that bag of tools I can rotate the phone until I hear "bag of
tools" or whatever I labeled it and then walk to it.



Since I have taken to using my cane in the yard to avoid the toys and 
other

debris my grandchildren move around getting within a few feet should allow
me to find the item with my cane.



Interesting app indeed.



Dan Beaver
On 7/1/2019 9:17 AM, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone wrote:

hi 

Re: the right hear app

[Maria Reyes]

So what is the difference between this app and Microsoft Soundscape? I’m pretty 
sure both apps have their key points.

> On Jul 1, 2019, at 11:43 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> OK, I'll do that.
> 
> Take care,
> Sieghard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tali 
> Sarnetzky
> Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 8:38 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: the right hear app
> 
> I think you are right, Sieghard.
> You can contact any of them through the website and they will gladly help.
> 
> Cheers,
> Tali
> 
>> On 7/2/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> I think for really accurate navigating the beacons are the way to go. 
>> Dan I think mentioned maybe marking where he dropped his tool bag and 
>> to find it this way. But consider this, even if you have 5 meter 
>> accuracy which is 16 feet, that still gives you a circle of 10 meters 
>> or 32 feet, such a circle has an area of just over 800 square feet or 
>> 78 square meters which is still a pretty large area.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Tali Sarnetzky
>> Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 8:12 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: the right hear app
>> 
>> Hi everyone.
>> 
>> I presented your questions to my friends at Right Hear.
>> As Siegert said, the recording and labelling of places works when you 
>> get a GPS accuracy of under eight meters, which means it works best 
>> outside, in the Outdoors mode of the app. This can be useful when you 
>> learn a new route and need to label certain spots. You can record any 
>> text you wish, such as info about intersections you need to cross, the 
>> locations of bus stops, etc.
>> 
>> At the moment, the app works with a specific type of beacon, so it is 
>> best to purchase such beacons through the company. My friend told me a 
>> few beterans in the States have already done this to lable spots in 
>> their own house or workplace. There is a plan to offer support for 
>> more kinds of beacons in the near future, so it is just a matter of time.
>> When you purchase beacons, you work through a website to enter the 
>> info you want and they are working all the time to make sure this part 
>> of the website is accessible as well.
>> 
>> In a couple of weeks, they are going to have a few webinars of 
>> questions and answers. I will post the dates and links as soon as I 
>> can. And as I have said before, they love hearing suggestions and 
>> getting feedback. From day one they have had the user's experience in 
>> first priority and that's why I love working with them.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Tali
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 7/1/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> Sandy,
>>> 
>>> At first when I recorded a label I thought it didn’t record anything 
>>> but then I realized that when I tapped on my recording that it did 
>>> speak my recorded word, but in a very low volume
>>> 
>>> From: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone 
>>> Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 10:13 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: the right hear app
>>> 
>>> does anyone know what this means?
>>> 
>>> what is the focus with voice-over thing about?
>>> Sent from The dark side of the moon
>>> 
>>> On 1 Jul 2019, at 17:07, Sieghard Weitzel 
>>> mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
>>> I just downloaded this app and it looks very interesting, clean and 
>>> simple.
>>> The record button is right there (no pun intended) on the main screen.
>>> All you have to do is to double tap on it to record a location. Keep 
>>> in mind that this only works if your GPS accuracy is at least 8 
>>> metres or better, but it will tell you if it is not.
>>> You can later on double tap and hold the recordings button if you 
>>> want to see a list of your recordings/locations.
>>> Looks like this app uses information from Open Street maps which 
>>> unfortunately often can be quite outdated. For example, it shows the 
>>> “Hill Top Pub” which is supposed to be about 400 metres away except 
>>> that this pub has been closed for about 3 years.
>>> Considering this is a free app which allows for turn by turn 
>>> navigation to an address or location as well as providing nearby 
>>> information and so on this is a nice app to have for people who don’t 
>>> want to pay for Seeing Eye or Nearby Explorer.
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
>>> Of Andrew J. LaPointe
>>> Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 7:56 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: the right hear app
>>> 
>>>The instructions says that you can record something via the 
>>> menuHow do you get to the area to record an item or area that you 
>>> want to use at a later time?
>>> 
>>> From: Dan
>>> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 10:13 AM
>>> To: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone
>>> Subject: Re: the right hear app
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I can 

Seeking a VoiceOver Accessible Medicine Reminder App for iOS

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

Well, the subject line says it all.  

Can anyone recommend a good VoiceOver accessible reminder app for taking
different medicines throughout the day?

I don't mind if the app cost money as long as it is not based on a
subscription.

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark

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RE: the right hear app

[Sieghard Weitzel]

OK, I'll do that.

Take care,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tali 
Sarnetzky
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 8:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the right hear app

I think you are right, Sieghard.
You can contact any of them through the website and they will gladly help.

Cheers,
Tali

On 7/2/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> I think for really accurate navigating the beacons are the way to go. 
> Dan I think mentioned maybe marking where he dropped his tool bag and 
> to find it this way. But consider this, even if you have 5 meter 
> accuracy which is 16 feet, that still gives you a circle of 10 meters 
> or 32 feet, such a circle has an area of just over 800 square feet or 
> 78 square meters which is still a pretty large area.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Tali Sarnetzky
> Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 8:12 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: the right hear app
>
> Hi everyone.
>
> I presented your questions to my friends at Right Hear.
> As Siegert said, the recording and labelling of places works when you 
> get a GPS accuracy of under eight meters, which means it works best 
> outside, in the Outdoors mode of the app. This can be useful when you 
> learn a new route and need to label certain spots. You can record any 
> text you wish, such as info about intersections you need to cross, the 
> locations of bus stops, etc.
>
> At the moment, the app works with a specific type of beacon, so it is 
> best to purchase such beacons through the company. My friend told me a 
> few beterans in the States have already done this to lable spots in 
> their own house or workplace. There is a plan to offer support for 
> more kinds of beacons in the near future, so it is just a matter of time.
> When you purchase beacons, you work through a website to enter the 
> info you want and they are working all the time to make sure this part 
> of the website is accessible as well.
>
> In a couple of weeks, they are going to have a few webinars of 
> questions and answers. I will post the dates and links as soon as I 
> can. And as I have said before, they love hearing suggestions and 
> getting feedback. From day one they have had the user's experience in 
> first priority and that's why I love working with them.
>
> Cheers,
> Tali
>
>
>
> On 7/1/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> Sandy,
>>
>> At first when I recorded a label I thought it didn’t record anything 
>> but then I realized that when I tapped on my recording that it did 
>> speak my recorded word, but in a very low volume
>>
>> From: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone 
>> Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 10:13 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: the right hear app
>>
>> does anyone know what this means?
>>
>> what is the focus with voice-over thing about?
>> Sent from The dark side of the moon
>>
>> On 1 Jul 2019, at 17:07, Sieghard Weitzel 
>> mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
>> I just downloaded this app and it looks very interesting, clean and 
>> simple.
>> The record button is right there (no pun intended) on the main screen.
>> All you have to do is to double tap on it to record a location. Keep 
>> in mind that this only works if your GPS accuracy is at least 8 
>> metres or better, but it will tell you if it is not.
>> You can later on double tap and hold the recordings button if you 
>> want to see a list of your recordings/locations.
>> Looks like this app uses information from Open Street maps which 
>> unfortunately often can be quite outdated. For example, it shows the 
>> “Hill Top Pub” which is supposed to be about 400 metres away except 
>> that this pub has been closed for about 3 years.
>> Considering this is a free app which allows for turn by turn 
>> navigation to an address or location as well as providing nearby 
>> information and so on this is a nice app to have for people who don’t 
>> want to pay for Seeing Eye or Nearby Explorer.
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
>> Of Andrew J. LaPointe
>> Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 7:56 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: the right hear app
>>
>> The instructions says that you can record something via the 
>> menuHow do you get to the area to record an item or area that you 
>> want to use at a later time?
>>
>> From: Dan
>> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 10:13 AM
>> To: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone
>> Subject: Re: the right hear app
>>
>>
>> I can see  use for the beacons in an unfamiliar very large environment.
>> However, if it is a commonly visited place and you have the time and 
>> help you could just go to places within the site and record a label 
>> and then the app would recognize it from then on when you visit again.
>> When I tried it it actually got me within a few feet 

Re: the right hear app

[Tali Sarnetzky]

I think you are right, Sieghard.
You can contact any of them through the website and they will gladly help.

Cheers,
Tali

On 7/2/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> I think for really accurate navigating the beacons are the way to go. Dan I
> think mentioned maybe marking where he dropped his tool bag and to find it
> this way. But consider this, even if you have 5 meter accuracy which is 16
> feet, that still gives you a circle of 10 meters or 32 feet, such a circle
> has an area of just over 800 square feet or 78 square meters which is still
> a pretty large area.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tali
> Sarnetzky
> Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 8:12 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: the right hear app
>
> Hi everyone.
>
> I presented your questions to my friends at Right Hear.
> As Siegert said, the recording and labelling of places works when you get a
> GPS accuracy of under eight meters, which means it works best outside, in
> the Outdoors mode of the app. This can be useful when you learn a new route
> and need to label certain spots. You can record any text you wish, such as
> info about intersections you need to cross, the locations of bus stops,
> etc.
>
> At the moment, the app works with a specific type of beacon, so it is best
> to purchase such beacons through the company. My friend told me a few
> beterans in the States have already done this to lable spots in their own
> house or workplace. There is a plan to offer support for more kinds of
> beacons in the near future, so it is just a matter of time.
> When you purchase beacons, you work through a website to enter the info you
> want and they are working all the time to make sure this part of the website
> is accessible as well.
>
> In a couple of weeks, they are going to have a few webinars of questions and
> answers. I will post the dates and links as soon as I can. And as I have
> said before, they love hearing suggestions and getting feedback. From day
> one they have had the user's experience in first priority and that's why I
> love working with them.
>
> Cheers,
> Tali
>
>
>
> On 7/1/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> Sandy,
>>
>> At first when I recorded a label I thought it didn’t record anything
>> but then I realized that when I tapped on my recording that it did
>> speak my recorded word, but in a very low volume
>>
>> From: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone 
>> Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 10:13 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: the right hear app
>>
>> does anyone know what this means?
>>
>> what is the focus with voice-over thing about?
>> Sent from The dark side of the moon
>>
>> On 1 Jul 2019, at 17:07, Sieghard Weitzel
>> mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
>> I just downloaded this app and it looks very interesting, clean and
>> simple.
>> The record button is right there (no pun intended) on the main screen.
>> All you have to do is to double tap on it to record a location. Keep
>> in mind that this only works if your GPS accuracy is at least 8 metres
>> or better, but it will tell you if it is not.
>> You can later on double tap and hold the recordings button if you want
>> to see a list of your recordings/locations.
>> Looks like this app uses information from Open Street maps which
>> unfortunately often can be quite outdated. For example, it shows the
>> “Hill Top Pub” which is supposed to be about 400 metres away except
>> that this pub has been closed for about 3 years.
>> Considering this is a free app which allows for turn by turn
>> navigation to an address or location as well as providing nearby
>> information and so on this is a nice app to have for people who don’t
>> want to pay for Seeing Eye or Nearby Explorer.
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf
>> Of Andrew J. LaPointe
>> Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 7:56 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: the right hear app
>>
>> The instructions says that you can record something via the
>> menuHow do you get to the area to record an item or area that you
>> want to use at a later time?
>>
>> From: Dan
>> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 10:13 AM
>> To: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone
>> Subject: Re: the right hear app
>>
>>
>> I can see  use for the beacons in an unfamiliar very large environment.
>> However, if it is a commonly visited place and you have the time and
>> help you could just go to places within the site and record a label
>> and then the app would recognize it from then on when you visit again.
>> When I tried it it actually got me within a few feet if I missed it.
>> I am considering using it for when I am working in the yard.  I can
>> drop a tool or bag of tools or whatever.  I can then record the label
>> for that location and if I need to get back to that bag of tools I can
>> rotate the phone until I 

RE: the right hear app

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I think for really accurate navigating the beacons are the way to go. Dan I 
think mentioned maybe marking where he dropped his tool bag and to find it this 
way. But consider this, even if you have 5 meter accuracy which is 16 feet, 
that still gives you a circle of 10 meters or 32 feet, such a circle has an 
area of just over 800 square feet or 78 square meters which is still a pretty 
large area.
 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tali 
Sarnetzky
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 8:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the right hear app

Hi everyone.

I presented your questions to my friends at Right Hear.
As Siegert said, the recording and labelling of places works when you get a GPS 
accuracy of under eight meters, which means it works best outside, in the 
Outdoors mode of the app. This can be useful when you learn a new route and 
need to label certain spots. You can record any text you wish, such as info 
about intersections you need to cross, the locations of bus stops, etc.

At the moment, the app works with a specific type of beacon, so it is best to 
purchase such beacons through the company. My friend told me a few beterans in 
the States have already done this to lable spots in their own house or 
workplace. There is a plan to offer support for more kinds of beacons in the 
near future, so it is just a matter of time.
When you purchase beacons, you work through a website to enter the info you 
want and they are working all the time to make sure this part of the website is 
accessible as well.

In a couple of weeks, they are going to have a few webinars of questions and 
answers. I will post the dates and links as soon as I can. And as I have said 
before, they love hearing suggestions and getting feedback. From day one they 
have had the user's experience in first priority and that's why I love working 
with them.

Cheers,
Tali



On 7/1/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Sandy,
>
> At first when I recorded a label I thought it didn’t record anything 
> but then I realized that when I tapped on my recording that it did 
> speak my recorded word, but in a very low volume
>
> From: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone 
> Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 10:13 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: the right hear app
>
> does anyone know what this means?
>
> what is the focus with voice-over thing about?
> Sent from The dark side of the moon
>
> On 1 Jul 2019, at 17:07, Sieghard Weitzel 
> mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
> I just downloaded this app and it looks very interesting, clean and simple.
> The record button is right there (no pun intended) on the main screen.
> All you have to do is to double tap on it to record a location. Keep 
> in mind that this only works if your GPS accuracy is at least 8 metres 
> or better, but it will tell you if it is not.
> You can later on double tap and hold the recordings button if you want 
> to see a list of your recordings/locations.
> Looks like this app uses information from Open Street maps which 
> unfortunately often can be quite outdated. For example, it shows the 
> “Hill Top Pub” which is supposed to be about 400 metres away except 
> that this pub has been closed for about 3 years.
> Considering this is a free app which allows for turn by turn 
> navigation to an address or location as well as providing nearby 
> information and so on this is a nice app to have for people who don’t 
> want to pay for Seeing Eye or Nearby Explorer.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
> Of Andrew J. LaPointe
> Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 7:56 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: the right hear app
>
> The instructions says that you can record something via the 
> menuHow do you get to the area to record an item or area that you 
> want to use at a later time?
>
> From: Dan
> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 10:13 AM
> To: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone
> Subject: Re: the right hear app
>
>
> I can see  use for the beacons in an unfamiliar very large environment.
> However, if it is a commonly visited place and you have the time and 
> help you could just go to places within the site and record a label 
> and then the app would recognize it from then on when you visit again.  
> When I tried it it actually got me within a few feet if I missed it.  
> I am considering using it for when I am working in the yard.  I can 
> drop a tool or bag of tools or whatever.  I can then record the label 
> for that location and if I need to get back to that bag of tools I can 
> rotate the phone until I hear "bag of tools" or whatever I labeled it and 
> then walk to it.
>
>
>
> Since I have taken to using my cane in the yard to avoid the toys and 
> other debris my grandchildren move around getting within a few feet 
> should allow me to find the item with my 

RE: the right hear app

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Tali,

Could you get more information regarding the beacons, e.g., what is the website 
where I would need to go or is there a particular person who is on the Right 
Hear team whom I could contact?

Take care,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tali 
Sarnetzky
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 8:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the right hear app

Hi everyone.

I presented your questions to my friends at Right Hear.
As Siegert said, the recording and labelling of places works when you get a GPS 
accuracy of under eight meters, which means it works best outside, in the 
Outdoors mode of the app. This can be useful when you learn a new route and 
need to label certain spots. You can record any text you wish, such as info 
about intersections you need to cross, the locations of bus stops, etc.

At the moment, the app works with a specific type of beacon, so it is best to 
purchase such beacons through the company. My friend told me a few beterans in 
the States have already done this to lable spots in their own house or 
workplace. There is a plan to offer support for more kinds of beacons in the 
near future, so it is just a matter of time.
When you purchase beacons, you work through a website to enter the info you 
want and they are working all the time to make sure this part of the website is 
accessible as well.

In a couple of weeks, they are going to have a few webinars of questions and 
answers. I will post the dates and links as soon as I can. And as I have said 
before, they love hearing suggestions and getting feedback. From day one they 
have had the user's experience in first priority and that's why I love working 
with them.

Cheers,
Tali



On 7/1/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Sandy,
>
> At first when I recorded a label I thought it didn’t record anything 
> but then I realized that when I tapped on my recording that it did 
> speak my recorded word, but in a very low volume
>
> From: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone 
> Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 10:13 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: the right hear app
>
> does anyone know what this means?
>
> what is the focus with voice-over thing about?
> Sent from The dark side of the moon
>
> On 1 Jul 2019, at 17:07, Sieghard Weitzel 
> mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
> I just downloaded this app and it looks very interesting, clean and simple.
> The record button is right there (no pun intended) on the main screen.
> All you have to do is to double tap on it to record a location. Keep 
> in mind that this only works if your GPS accuracy is at least 8 metres 
> or better, but it will tell you if it is not.
> You can later on double tap and hold the recordings button if you want 
> to see a list of your recordings/locations.
> Looks like this app uses information from Open Street maps which 
> unfortunately often can be quite outdated. For example, it shows the 
> “Hill Top Pub” which is supposed to be about 400 metres away except 
> that this pub has been closed for about 3 years.
> Considering this is a free app which allows for turn by turn 
> navigation to an address or location as well as providing nearby 
> information and so on this is a nice app to have for people who don’t 
> want to pay for Seeing Eye or Nearby Explorer.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
> Of Andrew J. LaPointe
> Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 7:56 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: the right hear app
>
> The instructions says that you can record something via the 
> menuHow do you get to the area to record an item or area that you 
> want to use at a later time?
>
> From: Dan
> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 10:13 AM
> To: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone
> Subject: Re: the right hear app
>
>
> I can see  use for the beacons in an unfamiliar very large environment.
> However, if it is a commonly visited place and you have the time and 
> help you could just go to places within the site and record a label 
> and then the app would recognize it from then on when you visit again.  
> When I tried it it actually got me within a few feet if I missed it.  
> I am considering using it for when I am working in the yard.  I can 
> drop a tool or bag of tools or whatever.  I can then record the label 
> for that location and if I need to get back to that bag of tools I can 
> rotate the phone until I hear "bag of tools" or whatever I labeled it and 
> then walk to it.
>
>
>
> Since I have taken to using my cane in the yard to avoid the toys and 
> other debris my grandchildren move around getting within a few feet 
> should allow me to find the item with my cane.
>
>
>
> Interesting app indeed.
>
>
>
> Dan Beaver
> On 7/1/2019 9:17 AM, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone wrote:
>
> hi Tali,
>
>
>
> Thanks for jumping in here. It seems to me 

Re: the right hear app

[Tali Sarnetzky]

Hi everyone.

I presented your questions to my friends at Right Hear.
As Siegert said, the recording and labelling of places works when you
get a GPS accuracy of under eight meters, which means it works best
outside, in the Outdoors mode of the app. This can be useful when you
learn a new route and need to label certain spots. You can record any
text you wish, such as info about intersections you need to cross, the
locations of bus stops, etc.

At the moment, the app works with a specific type of beacon, so it is
best to purchase such beacons through the company. My friend told me a
few beterans in the States have already done this to lable spots in
their own house or workplace. There is a plan to offer support for
more kinds of beacons in the near future, so it is just a matter of
time.
When you purchase beacons, you work through a website to enter the
info you want and they are working all the time to make sure this part
of the website is accessible as well.

In a couple of weeks, they are going to have a few webinars of
questions and answers. I will post the dates and links as soon as I
can. And as I have said before, they love hearing suggestions and
getting feedback. From day one they have had the user's experience in
first priority and that's why I love working with them.

Cheers,
Tali



On 7/1/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Sandy,
>
> At first when I recorded a label I thought it didn’t record anything but
> then I realized that when I tapped on my recording that it did speak my
> recorded word, but in a very low volume
>
> From: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone 
> Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 10:13 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: the right hear app
>
> does anyone know what this means?
>
> what is the focus with voice-over thing about?
> Sent from The dark side of the moon
>
> On 1 Jul 2019, at 17:07, Sieghard Weitzel
> mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
> I just downloaded this app and it looks very interesting, clean and simple.
> The record button is right there (no pun intended) on the main screen.
> All you have to do is to double tap on it to record a location. Keep in mind
> that this only works if your GPS accuracy is at least 8 metres or better,
> but it will tell you if it is not.
> You can later on double tap and hold the recordings button if you want to
> see a list of your recordings/locations.
> Looks like this app uses information from Open Street maps which
> unfortunately often can be quite outdated. For example, it shows the “Hill
> Top Pub” which is supposed to be about 400 metres away except that this pub
> has been closed for about 3 years.
> Considering this is a free app which allows for turn by turn navigation to
> an address or location as well as providing nearby information and so on
> this is a nice app to have for people who don’t want to pay for Seeing Eye
> or Nearby Explorer.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> Andrew J. LaPointe
> Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 7:56 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: the right hear app
>
> The instructions says that you can record something via the menuHow
> do you get to the area to record an item or area that you want to use at a
> later time?
>
> From: Dan
> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 10:13 AM
> To: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone
> Subject: Re: the right hear app
>
>
> I can see  use for the beacons in an unfamiliar very large environment.
> However, if it is a commonly visited place and you have the time and help
> you could just go to places within the site and record a label and then the
> app would recognize it from then on when you visit again.  When I tried it
> it actually got me within a few feet if I missed it.  I am considering using
> it for when I am working in the yard.  I can drop a tool or bag of tools or
> whatever.  I can then record the label for that location and if I need to
> get back to that bag of tools I can rotate the phone until I hear "bag of
> tools" or whatever I labeled it and then walk to it.
>
>
>
> Since I have taken to using my cane in the yard to avoid the toys and other
> debris my grandchildren move around getting within a few feet should allow
> me to find the item with my cane.
>
>
>
> Interesting app indeed.
>
>
>
> Dan Beaver
> On 7/1/2019 9:17 AM, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone wrote:
>
> hi Tali,
>
>
>
> Thanks for jumping in here. It seems to me that there are, at least, 2
> possible use options for RightHear. 1. in large public spaces, airports,
> railway stations, hospitals, hotels etc. 2. Domestic use, as expressed here,
> labelling the post box, a particular tree as a landmark, gates etc. Could
> you comment on how this latter option might be acquired by some of us? I,
> for example, live on an acre of land, in rural ireland, and would love to be
> able to label and find different 

RE: Any Good Journaling or Diary Apps, Anyone?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Donna and Everyone,

I just installed this app on my iPad Pro and, for whatever reason, VoiceOver 
speech is disabled when the on-screen keyboard is displayed.

Steps to reproduce:

1.
Open the app.

2.
Select Add, in order to create a new entry.  An edit field appears along with 
the iOS native on-screen keybord.  

3.
Now enter text by tapping on any key on the keyboard.  While the characters are 
entered in the field, VoiceOver does not speak the characters, out loud.  

4.
Select Hide Keyboard, located near the lower right corner of the display (iPad 
only) and the keyboard disappears and VoiceOver speech returns.

Have you ever experienced this scenario on your iPad?

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Donna
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2019 10:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Any Good Journaling or Diary Apps, Anyone?

Here is a link to the personal diary that I use. The app is completely 
accessible using voiceover. 
Personal Diary (Journal) App by Eng Tat Lim
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/personal-diary-journal-app/id1052570257

Donna


Hello All,

I downloaded Mac Journal for iPad a few weeks ago but, to be honest, I don't
really like it.  For one thing, it's kind of wonky when it comes to having
the data stored in iCloud.  

When I open the app on my iPhone, sometimes it sees the entries I've made on
iPad and sometimes, .  Now I do not have Mac Journal for Mac OS and I don't
plan on spending anymore money on this particular product.

So, can anyone recommend another VoiceOver accessible diary/journaling app?
It would be great if the app could store data on iCloud.

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark

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RE: camera setting

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Vicky,

It should make no difference what the camera is set to in the camera app, Voice 
OCR as well as Voice Dream Scanner all use the back camera and I have never 
seen an option or even a way to change this.

Regards,
Sieghard.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 12:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: camera setting

Thank you. I'm having a real issue getting Voice OCR to work on my phone. The 
camera is set to front facing and the mic, camera and the one other setting 
which has flown out of my head at the moment are all set to be used with Voice 
OCR.

I haven't been able to get it to work once. Any suggestions?

Thanks.

Vicki

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 12:32 PM
Subject: RE: camera setting

Yes, tap on the camera chooser, it is a toggle and by default it is on Back 
facing, if you tap the button it switches to Front Facing.
The button is located in the bottom right of the screen just next to the Take 
Picture button which is right in the middle above the home button. If you are 
on the Take Picture button you can also swipe right once to get there.
In the left bottom corner and one swipe left from the Take Picture button is 
the Photo and Video Viewer button and right above Take Picture and all across 
the screen from left to right is the Camera Mode selector. By default it’s on 
Photo, you can swipe down once to get to Video, swipe down again for Slow Mo 
and once again for Time Laps. If you swipe up from Photo you get Square and 
after that Pano (Panorama).
If you want to open the camera app with the Front Camera already selected you 
can ask SIRI to “Take a picture with the front camera” or “Take a Selfie”.
Lastly, you can use 3D Touch on the Camera button to bring up the following 
menu:
Take selfie
Record Video
Scan QR Code
Take Photo

Regards,
Sieghard


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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Vicki 
W.
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 10:33 AM
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Subject: camera setting

Is there a way to quickly switch between front and back facing camera?

Thanks.

Vicki

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Re: camera setting

[Vicki W.]

Thank you. I'm having a real issue getting Voice OCR to work on my phone. The 
camera is set to front facing and the mic, camera and the one other setting 
which has flown out of my head at the moment are all set to be used with Voice 
OCR.

I haven't been able to get it to work once. Any suggestions?

Thanks.

Vicki

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 12:32 PM
  Subject: RE: camera setting


  Yes, tap on the camera chooser, it is a toggle and by default it is on Back 
facing, if you tap the button it switches to Front Facing.

  The button is located in the bottom right of the screen just next to the Take 
Picture button which is right in the middle above the home button. If you are 
on the Take Picture button you can also swipe right once to get there.

  In the left bottom corner and one swipe left from the Take Picture button is 
the Photo and Video Viewer button and right above Take Picture and all across 
the screen from left to right is the Camera Mode selector. By default it’s on 
Photo, you can swipe down once to get to Video, swipe down again for Slow Mo 
and once again for Time Laps. If you swipe up from Photo you get Square and 
after that Pano (Panorama).

  If you want to open the camera app with the Front Camera already selected you 
can ask SIRI to “Take a picture with the front camera” or “Take a Selfie”.

  Lastly, you can use 3D Touch on the Camera button to bring up the following 
menu:

  Take selfie

  Record Video

  Scan QR Code

  Take Photo

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard


   

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W.
  Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 10:33 AM
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  Subject: camera setting

   

  Is there a way to quickly switch between front and back facing camera?

   

  Thanks.

   

  Vicki

   

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RE: camera setting

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Yes, tap on the camera chooser, it is a toggle and by default it is on Back 
facing, if you tap the button it switches to Front Facing.
The button is located in the bottom right of the screen just next to the Take 
Picture button which is right in the middle above the home button. If you are 
on the Take Picture button you can also swipe right once to get there.
In the left bottom corner and one swipe left from the Take Picture button is 
the Photo and Video Viewer button and right above Take Picture and all across 
the screen from left to right is the Camera Mode selector. By default it’s on 
Photo, you can swipe down once to get to Video, swipe down again for Slow Mo 
and once again for Time Laps. If you swipe up from Photo you get Square and 
after that Pano (Panorama).
If you want to open the camera app with the Front Camera already selected you 
can ask SIRI to “Take a picture with the front camera” or “Take a Selfie”.
Lastly, you can use 3D Touch on the Camera button to bring up the following 
menu:
Take selfie
Record Video
Scan QR Code
Take Photo

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 10:33 AM
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Subject: camera setting

Is there a way to quickly switch between front and back facing camera?

Thanks.

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RE: the right hear app

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Sandy,

At first when I recorded a label I thought it didn’t record anything but then I 
realized that when I tapped on my recording that it did speak my recorded word, 
but in a very low volume

From: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone 
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 10:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the right hear app

does anyone know what this means?

what is the focus with voice-over thing about?
Sent from The dark side of the moon

On 1 Jul 2019, at 17:07, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
I just downloaded this app and it looks very interesting, clean and simple. The 
record button is right there (no pun intended) on the main screen.
All you have to do is to double tap on it to record a location. Keep in mind 
that this only works if your GPS accuracy is at least 8 metres or better, but 
it will tell you if it is not.
You can later on double tap and hold the recordings button if you want to see a 
list of your recordings/locations.
Looks like this app uses information from Open Street maps which unfortunately 
often can be quite outdated. For example, it shows the “Hill Top Pub” which is 
supposed to be about 400 metres away except that this pub has been closed for 
about 3 years.
Considering this is a free app which allows for turn by turn navigation to an 
address or location as well as providing nearby information and so on this is a 
nice app to have for people who don’t want to pay for Seeing Eye or Nearby 
Explorer.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Andrew 
J. LaPointe
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 7:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the right hear app

The instructions says that you can record something via the menuHow do 
you get to the area to record an item or area that you want to use at a later 
time?

From: Dan
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 10:13 AM
To: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone
Subject: Re: the right hear app


I can see  use for the beacons in an unfamiliar very large environment.  
However, if it is a commonly visited place and you have the time and help you 
could just go to places within the site and record a label and then the app 
would recognize it from then on when you visit again.  When I tried it it 
actually got me within a few feet if I missed it.  I am considering using it 
for when I am working in the yard.  I can drop a tool or bag of tools or 
whatever.  I can then record the label for that location and if I need to get 
back to that bag of tools I can rotate the phone until I hear "bag of tools" or 
whatever I labeled it and then walk to it.



Since I have taken to using my cane in the yard to avoid the toys and other 
debris my grandchildren move around getting within a few feet should allow me 
to find the item with my cane.



Interesting app indeed.



Dan Beaver
On 7/1/2019 9:17 AM, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone wrote:

hi Tali,



Thanks for jumping in here. It seems to me that there are, at least, 2 
possible use options for RightHear. 1. in large public spaces, airports, 
railway stations, hospitals, hotels etc. 2. Domestic use, as expressed here, 
labelling the post box, a particular tree as a landmark, gates etc. Could you 
comment on how this latter option might be acquired by some of us? I, for 
example, live on an acre of land, in rural ireland, and would love to be able 
to label and find different landmarks outside of my house, would this be 
possible?i might also want to take these same labels with me on holiday and use 
them there, with new info recorded on them, would this be something I could 
easily do? Also, what kind of range will they cover and are they weatherproof?



Sorry if this puts pressure on you, but i am very interested in the 
answers!!



Sandy.



Sent from The dark side of the moon



On 1 Jul 2019, at 12:56, Tali Sarnetzky mailto:tali.sarnet...@gmail.com wrote:



Hi everyone.



I have the pleasure of working with these developers on the Right Hear

app and, as said before, it works with beacons within buildings to

provide information. It also shows a list of places that have this

accessibility feature in them, allows you to get directions to the

place or use an Uber-like service to get to an accessible venue, and

call someone for help if you are lost within the venue.

They work ceaselessly on making it a better app and always welcome

suggestions and feedback from users. They also hope to venture out of

Israel and offer accessible venues in other countries. (This is

getting implemented as we speak.)



Cheers,

Tali



On 7/1/19, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com wrote:



Hi Sandy,

Thanks for the explanation and the belief that I'm not often confused,

grin.

Sieghard had found information on their web site, which I didn't think to go

investigate. I kind of assumed that it would have 

RE: the right hear app

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You say “what is the focus with voice-over thing about?”
Can you explain what this refers to?

From: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone 
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 10:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the right hear app

does anyone know what this means?

what is the focus with voice-over thing about?
Sent from The dark side of the moon

On 1 Jul 2019, at 17:07, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
I just downloaded this app and it looks very interesting, clean and simple. The 
record button is right there (no pun intended) on the main screen.
All you have to do is to double tap on it to record a location. Keep in mind 
that this only works if your GPS accuracy is at least 8 metres or better, but 
it will tell you if it is not.
You can later on double tap and hold the recordings button if you want to see a 
list of your recordings/locations.
Looks like this app uses information from Open Street maps which unfortunately 
often can be quite outdated. For example, it shows the “Hill Top Pub” which is 
supposed to be about 400 metres away except that this pub has been closed for 
about 3 years.
Considering this is a free app which allows for turn by turn navigation to an 
address or location as well as providing nearby information and so on this is a 
nice app to have for people who don’t want to pay for Seeing Eye or Nearby 
Explorer.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Andrew 
J. LaPointe
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 7:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the right hear app

The instructions says that you can record something via the menuHow do 
you get to the area to record an item or area that you want to use at a later 
time?

From: Dan
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 10:13 AM
To: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone
Subject: Re: the right hear app


I can see  use for the beacons in an unfamiliar very large environment.  
However, if it is a commonly visited place and you have the time and help you 
could just go to places within the site and record a label and then the app 
would recognize it from then on when you visit again.  When I tried it it 
actually got me within a few feet if I missed it.  I am considering using it 
for when I am working in the yard.  I can drop a tool or bag of tools or 
whatever.  I can then record the label for that location and if I need to get 
back to that bag of tools I can rotate the phone until I hear "bag of tools" or 
whatever I labeled it and then walk to it.



Since I have taken to using my cane in the yard to avoid the toys and other 
debris my grandchildren move around getting within a few feet should allow me 
to find the item with my cane.



Interesting app indeed.



Dan Beaver
On 7/1/2019 9:17 AM, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone wrote:

hi Tali,



Thanks for jumping in here. It seems to me that there are, at least, 2 
possible use options for RightHear. 1. in large public spaces, airports, 
railway stations, hospitals, hotels etc. 2. Domestic use, as expressed here, 
labelling the post box, a particular tree as a landmark, gates etc. Could you 
comment on how this latter option might be acquired by some of us? I, for 
example, live on an acre of land, in rural ireland, and would love to be able 
to label and find different landmarks outside of my house, would this be 
possible?i might also want to take these same labels with me on holiday and use 
them there, with new info recorded on them, would this be something I could 
easily do? Also, what kind of range will they cover and are they weatherproof?



Sorry if this puts pressure on you, but i am very interested in the 
answers!!



Sandy.



Sent from The dark side of the moon



On 1 Jul 2019, at 12:56, Tali Sarnetzky mailto:tali.sarnet...@gmail.com wrote:



Hi everyone.



I have the pleasure of working with these developers on the Right Hear

app and, as said before, it works with beacons within buildings to

provide information. It also shows a list of places that have this

accessibility feature in them, allows you to get directions to the

place or use an Uber-like service to get to an accessible venue, and

call someone for help if you are lost within the venue.

They work ceaselessly on making it a better app and always welcome

suggestions and feedback from users. They also hope to venture out of

Israel and offer accessible venues in other countries. (This is

getting implemented as we speak.)



Cheers,

Tali



On 7/1/19, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com wrote:



Hi Sandy,

Thanks for the explanation and the belief that I'm not often confused,

grin.

Sieghard had found information on their web site, which I didn't think to go

investigate. I kind of assumed that it would have been in the app store

description.

But, yes, bluetooth beacons have been around for several years 

Re: lyft ap question

[Kathy Brandt]

That’s right.


> On Jul 1, 2019, at 12:57 PM, Debby  wrote:
> 
> Hi Kathy,
>  
> Thanks for this. I found “add stop” on the “mode of Transportation” screen, 
> after I had put in my destination. Is that where you are putting in the 
> multiple stops? Or am I missing something before that?
>  
> It actually works really well, and you can review it on the screen that says 
> request ride.
>  
> Thanks for helping!
>  
> Debby
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Kathy Brandt
> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 12:10 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: lyft ap question
>  
> You can put all your stops in before selecting lift and confirming pick up. 
> Where I get messed up on sometimes is getting them in the right order. The 
> other day, even though my destination read where I wanted they were reversed; 
> luckily the driver took me to where I intended as the first stop. To add a 
> stop, you flick to the left where it says add stop, and then you have to make 
> sure which is stop one and which is your final destination.
> 
> 
> 
> On Jul 1, 2019, at 11:55 AM, Debby  wrote:
> 
> Hi Kitty,
>  
> I just tried to set up a ride so that I could add a stop and see if I could 
> answer your question. Well low and behold, I got a ride in 2 minutes, so I 
> had to quickly cancel it. Now I am a bit shy to try it again.
>  
> At this point unless someone else on the list has added a stop recently, you 
> should probably try help on the website or try the address supp...@lyft.com.
>  
> Debby
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> kitty hevener
> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 11:30 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: lyft ap question
>  
> yes there is.  However, once I add the address for the stop, I can not find 
> anything that says add, confirm, or anything else.  I thought my stop had 
> gone through, but discovered it had not.  The driver could not tell me how to 
> add it and said we could not make that stop unless it was added. 
>  
> From: Andy Baracco
> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2019 10:42 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: lyft ap question
>  
> When you are setting up your ride, I believe that there is a button near the 
> bottom of the screen for this purpose.
>  
> Andy
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: kitty hevener
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2019 7:06 PM
> Subject: lyft ap question
>  
> How do you add a stop to a lyft ride? 
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camera setting

[Vicki W.]

Is there a way to quickly switch between front and back facing camera?

Thanks.

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Re: the right hear app

['Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone]

does anyone know what this means?

what is the focus with voice-over thing about?

Sent from The dark side of the moon

> On 1 Jul 2019, at 17:07, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I just downloaded this app and it looks very interesting, clean and simple. 
> The record button is right there (no pun intended) on the main screen.
> All you have to do is to double tap on it to record a location. Keep in mind 
> that this only works if your GPS accuracy is at least 8 metres or better, but 
> it will tell you if it is not.
> You can later on double tap and hold the recordings button if you want to see 
> a list of your recordings/locations.
> Looks like this app uses information from Open Street maps which 
> unfortunately often can be quite outdated. For example, it shows the “Hill 
> Top Pub” which is supposed to be about 400 metres away except that this pub 
> has been closed for about 3 years.
> Considering this is a free app which allows for turn by turn navigation to an 
> address or location as well as providing nearby information and so on this is 
> a nice app to have for people who don’t want to pay for Seeing Eye or Nearby 
> Explorer.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andrew 
> J. LaPointe
> Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 7:56 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: the right hear app
>  
> The instructions says that you can record something via the menuHow 
> do you get to the area to record an item or area that you want to use at a 
> later time?
>  
> From: Dan
> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 10:13 AM
> To: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone
> Subject: Re: the right hear app
>  
> I can see  use for the beacons in an unfamiliar very large environment.  
> However, if it is a commonly visited place and you have the time and help you 
> could just go to places within the site and record a label and then the app 
> would recognize it from then on when you visit again.  When I tried it it 
> actually got me within a few feet if I missed it.  I am considering using it 
> for when I am working in the yard.  I can drop a tool or bag of tools or 
> whatever.  I can then record the label for that location and if I need to get 
> back to that bag of tools I can rotate the phone until I hear "bag of tools" 
> or whatever I labeled it and then walk to it.
> 
>  
> 
> Since I have taken to using my cane in the yard to avoid the toys and other 
> debris my grandchildren move around getting within a few feet should allow me 
> to find the item with my cane.
> 
>  
> 
> Interesting app indeed.
> 
>  
> 
> Dan Beaver
> 
> On 7/1/2019 9:17 AM, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone wrote:
> hi Tali,
>  
> Thanks for jumping in here. It seems to me that there are, at least, 2 
> possible use options for RightHear. 1. in large public spaces, airports, 
> railway stations, hospitals, hotels etc. 2. Domestic use, as expressed here, 
> labelling the post box, a particular tree as a landmark, gates etc. Could you 
> comment on how this latter option might be acquired by some of us? I, for 
> example, live on an acre of land, in rural ireland, and would love to be able 
> to label and find different landmarks outside of my house, would this be 
> possible?i might also want to take these same labels with me on holiday and 
> use them there, with new info recorded on them, would this be something I 
> could easily do? Also, what kind of range will they cover and are they 
> weatherproof?
>  
> Sorry if this puts pressure on you, but i am very interested in the 
> answers!!
>  
> Sandy.  
>  
> Sent from The dark side of the moon
>  
> On 1 Jul 2019, at 12:56, Tali Sarnetzky mailto:tali.sarnet...@gmail.com wrote:
>  
> Hi everyone.
>  
> I have the pleasure of working with these developers on the Right Hear
> app and, as said before, it works with beacons within buildings to
> provide information. It also shows a list of places that have this
> accessibility feature in them, allows you to get directions to the
> place or use an Uber-like service to get to an accessible venue, and
> call someone for help if you are lost within the venue.
> They work ceaselessly on making it a better app and always welcome
> suggestions and feedback from users. They also hope to venture out of
> Israel and offer accessible venues in other countries. (This is
> getting implemented as we speak.)
>  
> Cheers,
> Tali
>  
> On 7/1/19, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com wrote:
>  
> Hi Sandy,
> Thanks for the explanation and the belief that I'm not often confused,
> grin.
> Sieghard had found information on their web site, which I didn't think to go
> investigate. I kind of assumed that it would have been in the app store
> description.
> But, yes, bluetooth beacons have been around for several years now.
> I just wish all the different approaches would come together into one
> standard.
> Blind Square was one of the earlier apps that I recall having worked out
> navigating this way for indoor navigation, though 

RE: lyft ap question

[Debby]

Hi Kathy,

 

Thanks for this. I found “add stop” on the “mode of Transportation” screen, 
after I had put in my destination. Is that where you are putting in the 
multiple stops? Or am I missing something before that?

 

It actually works really well, and you can review it on the screen that says 
request ride.

 

Thanks for helping!

 

Debby

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kathy Brandt
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 12:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: lyft ap question

 

You can put all your stops in before selecting lift and confirming pick up. 
Where I get messed up on sometimes is getting them in the right order. The 
other day, even though my destination read where I wanted they were reversed; 
luckily the driver took me to where I intended as the first stop. To add a 
stop, you flick to the left where it says add stop, and then you have to make 
sure which is stop one and which is your final destination.




On Jul 1, 2019, at 11:55 AM, Debby  wrote:

Hi Kitty,

 

I just tried to set up a ride so that I could add a stop and see if I could 
answer your question. Well low and behold, I got a ride in 2 minutes, so I had 
to quickly cancel it. Now I am a bit shy to try it again.

 

At this point unless someone else on the list has added a stop recently, you 
should probably try help on the website or try the address supp...@lyft.com.

 

Debby

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
kitty hevener
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 11:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: lyft ap question

 

yes there is.  However, once I add the address for the stop, I can not find 
anything that says add, confirm, or anything else.  I thought my stop had gone 
through, but discovered it had not.  The driver could not tell me how to add it 
and said we could not make that stop unless it was added.  

 

From: Andy Baracco   

Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2019 10:42 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: lyft ap question

 

When you are setting up your ride, I believe that there is a button near the 
bottom of the screen for this purpose.

 

Andy

 

- Original Message - 

From: kitty hevener   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2019 7:06 PM

Subject: lyft ap question

 

How do you add a stop to a lyft ride?  

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Re: the right hear app

[Juan Mojena]

Well I tried it in my front yard. I walked up to a  big tree in the corner of 
the yard and labeled it but when I tried it the label was not spoken.  Perhaps 
I did something wrong. 

> On Jul 1, 2019, at 10:13 AM, Dan  wrote:
> 
> I can see  use for the beacons in an unfamiliar very large environment.  
> However, if it is a commonly visited place and you have the time and help you 
> could just go to places within the site and record a label and then the app 
> would recognize it from then on when you visit again.  When I tried it it 
> actually got me within a few feet if I missed it.  I am considering using it 
> for when I am working in the yard.  I can drop a tool or bag of tools or 
> whatever.  I can then record the label for that location and if I need to get 
> back to that bag of tools I can rotate the phone until I hear "bag of tools" 
> or whatever I labeled it and then walk to it.
> 
> 
> 
> Since I have taken to using my cane in the yard to avoid the toys and other 
> debris my grandchildren move around getting within a few feet should allow me 
> to find the item with my cane.
> 
> 
> 
> Interesting app indeed.
> 
> 
> 
> Dan Beaver
> 
> On 7/1/2019 9:17 AM, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone wrote:
>> hi Tali,
>> 
>> Thanks for jumping in here. It seems to me that there are, at least, 2 
>> possible use options for RightHear. 1. in large public spaces, airports, 
>> railway stations, hospitals, hotels etc. 2. Domestic use, as expressed here, 
>> labelling the post box, a particular tree as a landmark, gates etc. Could 
>> you comment on how this latter option might be acquired by some of us? I, 
>> for example, live on an acre of land, in rural ireland, and would love to be 
>> able to label and find different landmarks outside of my house, would this 
>> be possible?i might also want to take these same labels with me on holiday 
>> and use them there, with new info recorded on them, would this be something 
>> I could easily do? Also, what kind of range will they cover and are they 
>> weatherproof?
>> 
>> Sorry if this puts pressure on you, but i am very interested in the 
>> answers!!
>> 
>> Sandy.  
>> 
>> Sent from The dark side of the moon
>> 
>>> On 1 Jul 2019, at 12:56, Tali Sarnetzky  
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone.
>>> 
>>> I have the pleasure of working with these developers on the Right Hear
>>> app and, as said before, it works with beacons within buildings to
>>> provide information. It also shows a list of places that have this
>>> accessibility feature in them, allows you to get directions to the
>>> place or use an Uber-like service to get to an accessible venue, and
>>> call someone for help if you are lost within the venue.
>>> They work ceaselessly on making it a better app and always welcome
>>> suggestions and feedback from users. They also hope to venture out of
>>> Israel and offer accessible venues in other countries. (This is
>>> getting implemented as we speak.)
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Tali
>>> 
 On 7/1/19, Richard Turner  
  wrote:
 
 Hi Sandy,
 Thanks for the explanation and the belief that I'm not often confused,
 grin.
 Sieghard had found information on their web site, which I didn't think to 
 go
 investigate. I kind of assumed that it would have been in the app store
 description.
 But, yes, bluetooth beacons have been around for several years now.
 I just wish all the different approaches would come together into one
 standard.
 Blind Square was one of the earlier apps that I recall having worked out
 navigating this way for indoor navigation, though there were others before
 them.
 Now the American Printing House for the Blind is working on them and these
 Right Hear folks, etc.
 I know mainly that the United States is way behind other countries in
 adopting this kind of technology.
 However, some airports have begun using them.
 I had read about San Francisco having 500 beacons in one of their terminals
 so that a person who is visually impaired with the right app, (no memory of
 which app) could even find an outlet to recharge their devices.
 I think this would be perfect for places like museums, etc. I know some
 malls have them, and maybe one day they will be more wide spread.
 Later,
 Richard
 
 
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 www.turner42.com 
 
  
 

Re: lyft ap question

[Kathy Brandt]

You can put all your stops in before selecting lift and confirming pick up. 
Where I get messed up on sometimes is getting them in the right order. The 
other day, even though my destination read where I wanted they were reversed; 
luckily the driver took me to where I intended as the first stop. To add a 
stop, you flick to the left where it says add stop, and then you have to make 
sure which is stop one and which is your final destination.



> On Jul 1, 2019, at 11:55 AM, Debby  wrote:
> 
> Hi Kitty,
>  
> I just tried to set up a ride so that I could add a stop and see if I could 
> answer your question. Well low and behold, I got a ride in 2 minutes, so I 
> had to quickly cancel it. Now I am a bit shy to try it again.
>  
> At this point unless someone else on the list has added a stop recently, you 
> should probably try help on the website or try the address supp...@lyft.com.
>  
> Debby
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> kitty hevener
> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 11:30 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: lyft ap question
>  
> yes there is.  However, once I add the address for the stop, I can not find 
> anything that says add, confirm, or anything else.  I thought my stop had 
> gone through, but discovered it had not.  The driver could not tell me how to 
> add it and said we could not make that stop unless it was added. 
>  
> From: Andy Baracco
> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2019 10:42 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: lyft ap question
>  
> When you are setting up your ride, I believe that there is a button near the 
> bottom of the screen for this purpose.
>  
> Andy
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: kitty hevener
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2019 7:06 PM
> Subject: lyft ap question
>  
> How do you add a stop to a lyft ride? 
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RE: the right hear app

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I just downloaded this app and it looks very interesting, clean and simple. The 
record button is right there (no pun intended) on the main screen.
All you have to do is to double tap on it to record a location. Keep in mind 
that this only works if your GPS accuracy is at least 8 metres or better, but 
it will tell you if it is not.
You can later on double tap and hold the recordings button if you want to see a 
list of your recordings/locations.
Looks like this app uses information from Open Street maps which unfortunately 
often can be quite outdated. For example, it shows the “Hill Top Pub” which is 
supposed to be about 400 metres away except that this pub has been closed for 
about 3 years.
Considering this is a free app which allows for turn by turn navigation to an 
address or location as well as providing nearby information and so on this is a 
nice app to have for people who don’t want to pay for Seeing Eye or Nearby 
Explorer.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andrew 
J. LaPointe
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 7:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the right hear app

The instructions says that you can record something via the menuHow do 
you get to the area to record an item or area that you want to use at a later 
time?

From: Dan
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 10:13 AM
To: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone
Subject: Re: the right hear app


I can see  use for the beacons in an unfamiliar very large environment.  
However, if it is a commonly visited place and you have the time and help you 
could just go to places within the site and record a label and then the app 
would recognize it from then on when you visit again.  When I tried it it 
actually got me within a few feet if I missed it.  I am considering using it 
for when I am working in the yard.  I can drop a tool or bag of tools or 
whatever.  I can then record the label for that location and if I need to get 
back to that bag of tools I can rotate the phone until I hear "bag of tools" or 
whatever I labeled it and then walk to it.



Since I have taken to using my cane in the yard to avoid the toys and other 
debris my grandchildren move around getting within a few feet should allow me 
to find the item with my cane.



Interesting app indeed.



Dan Beaver
On 7/1/2019 9:17 AM, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone wrote:

hi Tali,



Thanks for jumping in here. It seems to me that there are, at least, 2 
possible use options for RightHear. 1. in large public spaces, airports, 
railway stations, hospitals, hotels etc. 2. Domestic use, as expressed here, 
labelling the post box, a particular tree as a landmark, gates etc. Could you 
comment on how this latter option might be acquired by some of us? I, for 
example, live on an acre of land, in rural ireland, and would love to be able 
to label and find different landmarks outside of my house, would this be 
possible?i might also want to take these same labels with me on holiday and use 
them there, with new info recorded on them, would this be something I could 
easily do? Also, what kind of range will they cover and are they weatherproof?



Sorry if this puts pressure on you, but i am very interested in the 
answers!!



Sandy.



Sent from The dark side of the moon



On 1 Jul 2019, at 12:56, Tali Sarnetzky mailto:tali.sarnet...@gmail.com wrote:



Hi everyone.



I have the pleasure of working with these developers on the Right Hear

app and, as said before, it works with beacons within buildings to

provide information. It also shows a list of places that have this

accessibility feature in them, allows you to get directions to the

place or use an Uber-like service to get to an accessible venue, and

call someone for help if you are lost within the venue.

They work ceaselessly on making it a better app and always welcome

suggestions and feedback from users. They also hope to venture out of

Israel and offer accessible venues in other countries. (This is

getting implemented as we speak.)



Cheers,

Tali



On 7/1/19, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com wrote:



Hi Sandy,

Thanks for the explanation and the belief that I'm not often confused,

grin.

Sieghard had found information on their web site, which I didn't think to go

investigate. I kind of assumed that it would have been in the app store

description.

But, yes, bluetooth beacons have been around for several years now.

I just wish all the different approaches would come together into one

standard.

Blind Square was one of the earlier apps that I recall having worked out

navigating this way for indoor navigation, though there were others before

them.

Now the American Printing House for the Blind is working on them and these

Right Hear folks, etc.

I know mainly that the United States is way behind other countries in

adopting this kind of technology.

However, some airports have begun using them.

I had read about San 

RE: lyft ap question

[Debby]

Hi Kitty,

 

I just tried to set up a ride so that I could add a stop and see if I could 
answer your question. Well low and behold, I got a ride in 2 minutes, so I had 
to quickly cancel it. Now I am a bit shy to try it again.

 

At this point unless someone else on the list has added a stop recently, you 
should probably try help on the website or try the address supp...@lyft.com.

 

Debby

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
kitty hevener
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 11:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: lyft ap question

 

yes there is.  However, once I add the address for the stop, I can not find 
anything that says add, confirm, or anything else.  I thought my stop had gone 
through, but discovered it had not.  The driver could not tell me how to add it 
and said we could not make that stop unless it was added.  

 

From: Andy Baracco   

Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2019 10:42 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: lyft ap question

 

When you are setting up your ride, I believe that there is a button near the 
bottom of the screen for this purpose.

 

Andy

 

- Original Message - 

From: kitty hevener   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2019 7:06 PM

Subject: lyft ap question

 

How do you add a stop to a lyft ride?  

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Re: lyft ap question

[kitty hevener]

yes there is.  However, once I add the address for the stop, I can not find 
anything that says add, confirm, or anything else.  I thought my stop had gone 
through, but discovered it had not.  The driver could not tell me how to add it 
and said we could not make that stop unless it was added.  

From: Andy Baracco 
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2019 10:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: lyft ap question

When you are setting up your ride, I believe that there is a button near the 
bottom of the screen for this purpose.

Andy

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  How do you add a stop to a lyft ride?  
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Re: the right hear app

[Andrew J. LaPointe]

The instructions says that you can record something via the menuHow do 
you get to the area to record an item or area that you want to use at a later 
time?

From: Dan 
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 10:13 AM
To: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: the right hear app

I can see  use for the beacons in an unfamiliar very large environment.  
However, if it is a commonly visited place and you have the time and help you 
could just go to places within the site and record a label and then the app 
would recognize it from then on when you visit again.  When I tried it it 
actually got me within a few feet if I missed it.  I am considering using it 
for when I am working in the yard.  I can drop a tool or bag of tools or 
whatever.  I can then record the label for that location and if I need to get 
back to that bag of tools I can rotate the phone until I hear "bag of tools" or 
whatever I labeled it and then walk to it.




Since I have taken to using my cane in the yard to avoid the toys and other 
debris my grandchildren move around getting within a few feet should allow me 
to find the item with my cane.




Interesting app indeed.




Dan Beaver


On 7/1/2019 9:17 AM, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone wrote:

hi Tali,

Thanks for jumping in here. It seems to me that there are, at least, 2 
possible use options for RightHear. 1. in large public spaces, airports, 
railway stations, hospitals, hotels etc. 2. Domestic use, as expressed here, 
labelling the post box, a particular tree as a landmark, gates etc. Could you 
comment on how this latter option might be acquired by some of us? I, for 
example, live on an acre of land, in rural ireland, and would love to be able 
to label and find different landmarks outside of my house, would this be 
possible?i might also want to take these same labels with me on holiday and use 
them there, with new info recorded on them, would this be something I could 
easily do? Also, what kind of range will they cover and are they weatherproof?

Sorry if this puts pressure on you, but i am very interested in the 
answers!!

Sandy.  

Sent from The dark side of the moon

On 1 Jul 2019, at 12:56, Tali Sarnetzky mailto:tali.sarnet...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi everyone.

I have the pleasure of working with these developers on the Right Hear
app and, as said before, it works with beacons within buildings to
provide information. It also shows a list of places that have this
accessibility feature in them, allows you to get directions to the
place or use an Uber-like service to get to an accessible venue, and
call someone for help if you are lost within the venue.
They work ceaselessly on making it a better app and always welcome
suggestions and feedback from users. They also hope to venture out of
Israel and offer accessible venues in other countries. (This is
getting implemented as we speak.)

Cheers,
Tali

On 7/1/19, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com wrote:

Hi Sandy,
Thanks for the explanation and the belief that I'm not often confused,
grin.
Sieghard had found information on their web site, which I didn't think to go
investigate. I kind of assumed that it would have been in the app store
description.
But, yes, bluetooth beacons have been around for several years now.
I just wish all the different approaches would come together into one
standard.
Blind Square was one of the earlier apps that I recall having worked out
navigating this way for indoor navigation, though there were others before
them.
Now the American Printing House for the Blind is working on them and these
Right Hear folks, etc.
I know mainly that the United States is way behind other countries in
adopting this kind of technology.
However, some airports have begun using them.
I had read about San Francisco having 500 beacons in one of their terminals
so that a person who is visually impaired with the right app, (no memory of
which app) could even find an outlet to recharge their devices.
I think this would be perfect for places like museums, etc. I know some
malls have them, and maybe one day they will be more wide spread.
Later,
Richard


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On Jul 1, 2019, at 3:24 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe
mailto:alapoint...@comcast.net> wrote:

   Hi all, this Righthear App, how far can you be to locate an object??  I
just came home from the deep woods of New 

RE: the right hear app

[Sieghard Weitzel]

It seems to me that the Microsoft Soundscape app also has some functionality 
which allows you to label places. Here is a list of key features (as listed in 
the app description):

Key features:
• As you walk, Soundscape will automatically call out the key points of 
interest, roads and intersections that you pass. These can be adjusted and 
turned on and off.
• An audio beacon can be placed on a point of interest, and you will hear it as 
you move around. You can place an audio beacon on a point of interest that you 
would like to track such as your destination, a point to return to or a 
landmark you are familiar with.
• “My Location” describes your current location and the direction you are 
facing.
• "Nearby Markers" describes nearby places you have marked.
• “Around Me” describes nearby points of interest in each of the four cardinal 
directions, helping with orientation. Try this out when getting off a bus or 
leaving a train station.
• “Ahead of Me” describes points of interest in front of you, for example when 
walking down the street.
• The expandable Callout History section lets you review callouts you have 
heard, repeat callouts, hear more information about them, and more.
We hope you enjoy the experience. We believe that this kind of technology 
offers a new way to relate to the environment around you and we can’t wait to 
hear what you make of it.

This app only recently became available in Canada and I only downloaded it last 
night which means I haven’t really done this much with it yet.

Best regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dan
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 7:14 AM
To: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: the right hear app


I can see  use for the beacons in an unfamiliar very large environment.  
However, if it is a commonly visited place and you have the time and help you 
could just go to places within the site and record a label and then the app 
would recognize it from then on when you visit again.  When I tried it it 
actually got me within a few feet if I missed it.  I am considering using it 
for when I am working in the yard.  I can drop a tool or bag of tools or 
whatever.  I can then record the label for that location and if I need to get 
back to that bag of tools I can rotate the phone until I hear "bag of tools" or 
whatever I labeled it and then walk to it.



Since I have taken to using my cane in the yard to avoid the toys and other 
debris my grandchildren move around getting within a few feet should allow me 
to find the item with my cane.



Interesting app indeed.



Dan Beaver
On 7/1/2019 9:17 AM, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone wrote:

hi Tali,



Thanks for jumping in here. It seems to me that there are, at least, 2 
possible use options for RightHear. 1. in large public spaces, airports, 
railway stations, hospitals, hotels etc. 2. Domestic use, as expressed here, 
labelling the post box, a particular tree as a landmark, gates etc. Could you 
comment on how this latter option might be acquired by some of us? I, for 
example, live on an acre of land, in rural ireland, and would love to be able 
to label and find different landmarks outside of my house, would this be 
possible?i might also want to take these same labels with me on holiday and use 
them there, with new info recorded on them, would this be something I could 
easily do? Also, what kind of range will they cover and are they weatherproof?



Sorry if this puts pressure on you, but i am very interested in the 
answers!!



Sandy.



Sent from The dark side of the moon



On 1 Jul 2019, at 12:56, Tali Sarnetzky 
 wrote:



Hi everyone.



I have the pleasure of working with these developers on the Right Hear

app and, as said before, it works with beacons within buildings to

provide information. It also shows a list of places that have this

accessibility feature in them, allows you to get directions to the

place or use an Uber-like service to get to an accessible venue, and

call someone for help if you are lost within the venue.

They work ceaselessly on making it a better app and always welcome

suggestions and feedback from users. They also hope to venture out of

Israel and offer accessible venues in other countries. (This is

getting implemented as we speak.)



Cheers,

Tali



On 7/1/19, Richard Turner 
 wrote:



Hi Sandy,

Thanks for the explanation and the belief that I'm not often confused,

grin.

Sieghard had found information on their web site, which I didn't think to go

investigate. I kind of assumed that it would have been in the app store

description.

But, yes, bluetooth beacons have been around for several years now.

I just wish all the different approaches would come together into one

standard.

Blind Square was one of the earlier apps that I recall having worked out

navigating this way for indoor navigation, though there were others before

them.

Now the American 

RE: Braille Me 20 vs Orbit: Which to get?

[Judy Holloway]

The Focus 14 Blue is the Braille display I'm using. I like it very much. It's 
not that hard to get used to a 14-cell display. It pairs very well with my 
iPhone, and the scratchpad offers some notetaking capability. 

Thanks.

Judy
 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Paul and Paula Jordan
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 9:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Braille Me 20 vs Orbit: Which to get?

Just to throw another option out there, I'm using the focus 14 put out by 
Freedom Scientific which is now called vispero.  I'm impressed with how quickly 
it connects to the IPhone and how solid the connection is.  I'm still new to it 
and learning.  It is a 14 cell display with a scratchpad which offers some 
basic text editing functions. 
God bless!
Paula and Garçon 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Judy Holloway
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2019 8:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Braille Me 20 vs Orbit: Which to get?

The Tech Doctor Podcast is listed in Humanware Favorites under the podcast 
settings.

Thanks.

Judy


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of GARY WILLIAMS
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2019 4:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Braille Me 20 vs Orbit: Which to get?

Is the Tech Doctor podcast on the victor stream? If it is how is it listed?  We 
typed in The Tech Doctor but did not find it. Thanks.

Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 30, 2019, at 8:03 AM, Robert Carter  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The Tech Doctor podcast has a four part series on low-cost Braille Displays. 
> We discuss the Braille Me, the Orbit Reader and the Brailliant BI 14.
> Https://www.dr-carter.com
> 
> Robert Carter
> 
>> On Jun 29, 2019, at 5:40 PM, Yohandy Rodriguez  wrote:
>> 
>> Any advice guys? Are there huge differences between them? I'm just looking 
>> for a relatively cheap display, with crisp Braille, that works well with 
>> smartphones and pc using Jaws and NVDA. Are there other cheap displays I 
>> should know of? If any of you own both, I'd appreciate any info you can 
>> provide. thanks!
>> 
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Re: the right hear app

[Dan]

  
  
I can see  use for the beacons in an unfamiliar very large
environment.  However, if it is a commonly visited place and you
have the time and help you could just go to places within the
site and record a label and then the app would recognize it from
then on when you visit again.  When I tried it it actually got
me within a few feet if I missed it.  I am considering using it
for when I am working in the yard.  I can drop a tool or bag of
tools or whatever.  I can then record the label for that
location and if I need to get back to that bag of tools I can
rotate the phone until I hear "bag of tools" or whatever I
labeled it and then walk to it.

  
Since I have taken to using my cane in the yard to avoid the
toys and other debris my grandchildren move around getting
within a few feet should allow me to find the item with my cane.

  
Interesting app indeed.

  
Dan Beaver

On 7/1/2019 9:17 AM, 'Sandy Tomkins'
  via VIPhone wrote:


  hi Tali,

Thanks for jumping in here. It seems to me that there are, at least, 2 possible use options for RightHear. 1. in large public spaces, airports, railway stations, hospitals, hotels etc. 2. Domestic use, as expressed here, labelling the post box, a particular tree as a landmark, gates etc. Could you comment on how this latter option might be acquired by some of us? I, for example, live on an acre of land, in rural ireland, and would love to be able to label and find different landmarks outside of my house, would this be possible?i might also want to take these same labels with me on holiday and use them there, with new info recorded on them, would this be something I could easily do? Also, what kind of range will they cover and are they weatherproof?

Sorry if this puts pressure on you, but i am very interested in the answers!!

Sandy.  

Sent from The dark side of the moon


  
On 1 Jul 2019, at 12:56, Tali Sarnetzky  wrote:

Hi everyone.

I have the pleasure of working with these developers on the Right Hear
app and, as said before, it works with beacons within buildings to
provide information. It also shows a list of places that have this
accessibility feature in them, allows you to get directions to the
place or use an Uber-like service to get to an accessible venue, and
call someone for help if you are lost within the venue.
They work ceaselessly on making it a better app and always welcome
suggestions and feedback from users. They also hope to venture out of
Israel and offer accessible venues in other countries. (This is
getting implemented as we speak.)

Cheers,
Tali



  On 7/1/19, Richard Turner  wrote:

Hi Sandy,
Thanks for the explanation and the belief that I'm not often confused,
grin.
Sieghard had found information on their web site, which I didn't think to go
investigate. I kind of assumed that it would have been in the app store
description.
But, yes, bluetooth beacons have been around for several years now.
I just wish all the different approaches would come together into one
standard.
Blind Square was one of the earlier apps that I recall having worked out
navigating this way for indoor navigation, though there were others before
them.
Now the American Printing House for the Blind is working on them and these
Right Hear folks, etc.
I know mainly that the United States is way behind other countries in
adopting this kind of technology.
However, some airports have begun using them.
I had read about San Francisco having 500 beacons in one of their terminals
so that a person who is visually impaired with the right app, (no memory of
which app) could even find an outlet to recharge their devices.
I think this would be perfect for places like museums, etc. I know some
malls have them, and maybe one day they will be more wide spread.
Later,
Richard


Check out my web site at:
www.turner42.com
“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of
flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack
lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas
Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59


The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't
have any." -- Alice Walker


On Jul 1, 2019, at 3:24 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe
 wrote:

   Hi all, this Righthear App, how far can you be to locate an object??  I
just came home from the deep woods of New Hampshire and this may have been a
good tool for me to have.  How would this differ from a wireless door bell
system? Andy and Shubert

From: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 4:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the right hear app

Richard, (the  often  confused? Close brackets never!
I understand that the labels are real and not virtual. if I remember
correctly, as I was 

RE: Braille Me 20 vs Orbit: Which to get?

[Paul and Paula Jordan]

Just to throw another option out there, I'm using the focus 14 put out by 
Freedom Scientific which is now called vispero.  I'm impressed with how quickly 
it connects to the IPhone and how solid the connection is.  I'm still new to it 
and learning.  It is a 14 cell display with a scratchpad which offers some 
basic text editing functions. 
God bless!
Paula and Garçon 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Judy Holloway
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2019 8:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Braille Me 20 vs Orbit: Which to get?

The Tech Doctor Podcast is listed in Humanware Favorites under the podcast 
settings.

Thanks.

Judy


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of GARY WILLIAMS
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2019 4:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Braille Me 20 vs Orbit: Which to get?

Is the Tech Doctor podcast on the victor stream? If it is how is it listed?  We 
typed in The Tech Doctor but did not find it. Thanks.

Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 30, 2019, at 8:03 AM, Robert Carter  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The Tech Doctor podcast has a four part series on low-cost Braille Displays. 
> We discuss the Braille Me, the Orbit Reader and the Brailliant BI 14.
> Https://www.dr-carter.com
> 
> Robert Carter
> 
>> On Jun 29, 2019, at 5:40 PM, Yohandy Rodriguez  wrote:
>> 
>> Any advice guys? Are there huge differences between them? I'm just looking 
>> for a relatively cheap display, with crisp Braille, that works well with 
>> smartphones and pc using Jaws and NVDA. Are there other cheap displays I 
>> should know of? If any of you own both, I'd appreciate any info you can 
>> provide. thanks!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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RE: the right hear app

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Too bad our noses aren't as sensitive as those of our canine friends, my dog 
always seems to be able to find his favourite tree although I believe said tree 
may receive frequent "peecons" 藍



-Original Message-
From: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone 
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 6:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the right hear app



hi Tali,



Thanks for jumping in here. It seems to me that there are, at least, 2 
possible use options for RightHear. 1. in large public spaces, airports, 
railway stations, hospitals, hotels etc. 2. Domestic use, as expressed here, 
labelling the post box, a particular tree as a landmark, gates etc. Could you 
comment on how this latter option might be acquired by some of us? I, for 
example, live on an acre of land, in rural ireland, and would love to be able 
to label and find different landmarks outside of my house, would this be 
possible?i might also want to take these same labels with me on holiday and use 
them there, with new info recorded on them, would this be something I could 
easily do? Also, what kind of range will they cover and are they weatherproof?



Sorry if this puts pressure on you, but i am very interested in the 
answers!!



Sandy.



Sent from The dark side of the moon



> On 1 Jul 2019, at 12:56, Tali Sarnetzky  wrote:

>

> Hi everyone.

>

> I have the pleasure of working with these developers on the Right Hear

> app and, as said before, it works with beacons within buildings to

> provide information. It also shows a list of places that have this

> accessibility feature in them, allows you to get directions to the

> place or use an Uber-like service to get to an accessible venue, and

> call someone for help if you are lost within the venue.

> They work ceaselessly on making it a better app and always welcome

> suggestions and feedback from users. They also hope to venture out of

> Israel and offer accessible venues in other countries. (This is

> getting implemented as we speak.)

>

> Cheers,

> Tali

>

>> On 7/1/19, Richard Turner  wrote:

>>

>> Hi Sandy,

>> Thanks for the explanation and the belief that I'm not often

>> confused, grin.

>> Sieghard had found information on their web site, which I didn't

>> think to go investigate. I kind of assumed that it would have been in

>> the app store description.

>> But, yes, bluetooth beacons have been around for several years now.

>> I just wish all the different approaches would come together into one

>> standard.

>> Blind Square was one of the earlier apps that I recall having worked

>> out navigating this way for indoor navigation, though there were

>> others before them.

>> Now the American Printing House for the Blind is working on them and

>> these Right Hear folks, etc.

>> I know mainly that the United States is way behind other countries in

>> adopting this kind of technology.

>> However, some airports have begun using them.

>> I had read about San Francisco having 500 beacons in one of their

>> terminals so that a person who is visually impaired with the right

>> app, (no memory of which app) could even find an outlet to recharge their 
>> devices.

>> I think this would be perfect for places like museums, etc. I know

>> some malls have them, and maybe one day they will be more wide spread.

>> Later,

>> Richard

>>

>>

>> Check out my web site at:

>> www.turner42.com> http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com=02%7C01%7C%7C633c05971fbe4621637e0

>> 8d6bb714c96%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636902492616

>> 129219=9qG6zwn2QJ9Xe5fJyao6MewzLG36u7TAieLK72Tg19c%3D=

>> 0> “The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the

>> subject of flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to

>> flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the

>> ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and

>> Everything, p.59

>>

>>

>> The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they

>> don't have any." -- Alice Walker

>>

>>

>> On Jul 1, 2019, at 3:24 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe

>> mailto:alapoint...@comcast.net>> wrote:

>>

>>Hi all, this Righthear App, how far can you be to locate an

>> object??  I just came home from the deep woods of New Hampshire and

>> this may have been a good tool for me to have.  How would this differ

>> from a wireless door bell system? Andy and Shubert

>>

>> From: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone

>> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 4:55 AM

>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com

>> Subject: Re: the right hear app

>>

>> Richard, (the  often  confused? Close brackets never!

>> I understand that the labels are real and not virtual. if I remember

>> correctly, as I was researching this about a year ago, but  got

>> distracted by other technologies along the way,  The initial idea was

>> to implement these tags by way of consenting 

RE: the right hear app

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Do you know if they would sell their Bluetooth beacons and, if so, how much do 
they dost? Do they even have to be particular beacons or could they be any 
Bluetooth beacon? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tali 
Sarnetzky
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 4:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the right hear app

Hi everyone.

I have the pleasure of working with these developers on the Right Hear app and, 
as said before, it works with beacons within buildings to provide information. 
It also shows a list of places that have this accessibility feature in them, 
allows you to get directions to the place or use an Uber-like service to get to 
an accessible venue, and call someone for help if you are lost within the venue.
They work ceaselessly on making it a better app and always welcome suggestions 
and feedback from users. They also hope to venture out of Israel and offer 
accessible venues in other countries. (This is getting implemented as we speak.)

Cheers,
Tali

On 7/1/19, Richard Turner  wrote:
>
> Hi Sandy,
> Thanks for the explanation and the belief that I'm not often confused, 
> grin.
> Sieghard had found information on their web site, which I didn't think 
> to go investigate. I kind of assumed that it would have been in the 
> app store description.
> But, yes, bluetooth beacons have been around for several years now.
> I just wish all the different approaches would come together into one 
> standard.
> Blind Square was one of the earlier apps that I recall having worked 
> out navigating this way for indoor navigation, though there were 
> others before them.
> Now the American Printing House for the Blind is working on them and 
> these Right Hear folks, etc.
> I know mainly that the United States is way behind other countries in 
> adopting this kind of technology.
> However, some airports have begun using them.
> I had read about San Francisco having 500 beacons in one of their 
> terminals so that a person who is visually impaired with the right 
> app, (no memory of which app) could even find an outlet to recharge their 
> devices.
> I think this would be perfect for places like museums, etc. I know 
> some malls have them, and maybe one day they will be more wide spread.
> Later,
> Richard
>
>
> Check out my web site at:
> www.turner42.com ttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com=02%7C01%7C%7C633c05971fbe4621637e08d
> 6bb714c96%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636902492616129
> 219=9qG6zwn2QJ9Xe5fJyao6MewzLG36u7TAieLK72Tg19c%3D=0>
> “The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject 
> of flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. 
> The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and 
> miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>
>
> The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they 
> don't have any." -- Alice Walker
>
>
> On Jul 1, 2019, at 3:24 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe 
> mailto:alapoint...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>
> Hi all, this Righthear App, how far can you be to locate an 
> object??  I just came home from the deep woods of New Hampshire and 
> this may have been a good tool for me to have.  How would this differ 
> from a wireless door bell system? Andy and Shubert
>
> From: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone
> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 4:55 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: the right hear app
>
> Richard, (the  often  confused? Close brackets never!
> I understand that the labels are real and not virtual. if I remember 
> correctly, as I was researching this about a year ago, but  got 
> distracted by other technologies along the way,  The initial idea was 
> to implement these tags by way of consenting businesses/services et 
> cetera, to make public spaces more navigable. I asked them if I, as an 
> individual, could obtain beacons and implement them for myself. they 
> thought this would be possible, but then I moved onto other things and 
> forgot about it. by the way, my current and most favourite toy is the 
> Sunu band. this works with Sonar  rather than Bluetooth. but back to 
> RightHear, they are very approachable, and  seek  to get new partners 
> to work with, in different countries. I will take  a trawl  through my 
> zillions of old emails, never deleted, and see if I can find some of 
> my old correspondence. but the main thing is this, in theory at least, 
> this solution is much more accurate and is  much more suitable for 
> micro navigation, such as that which was raised in the original email, to 
> find trees, postboxes, gates et cetera, Than GPS.
> We do seem to be in a particular point in time when many potential 
> solutions abound, but none are quite perfected. Potential is exciting, 
> but  actuality is much more  satisfying!
> Sandy.
>
> Sent from The dark side of the moon
>
> 

Re: the right hear app

['Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone]

hi Tali,

Thanks for jumping in here. It seems to me that there are, at least, 2 
possible use options for RightHear. 1. in large public spaces, airports, 
railway stations, hospitals, hotels etc. 2. Domestic use, as expressed here, 
labelling the post box, a particular tree as a landmark, gates etc. Could you 
comment on how this latter option might be acquired by some of us? I, for 
example, live on an acre of land, in rural ireland, and would love to be able 
to label and find different landmarks outside of my house, would this be 
possible?i might also want to take these same labels with me on holiday and use 
them there, with new info recorded on them, would this be something I could 
easily do? Also, what kind of range will they cover and are they weatherproof?

Sorry if this puts pressure on you, but i am very interested in the 
answers!!

Sandy.  

Sent from The dark side of the moon

> On 1 Jul 2019, at 12:56, Tali Sarnetzky  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone.
> 
> I have the pleasure of working with these developers on the Right Hear
> app and, as said before, it works with beacons within buildings to
> provide information. It also shows a list of places that have this
> accessibility feature in them, allows you to get directions to the
> place or use an Uber-like service to get to an accessible venue, and
> call someone for help if you are lost within the venue.
> They work ceaselessly on making it a better app and always welcome
> suggestions and feedback from users. They also hope to venture out of
> Israel and offer accessible venues in other countries. (This is
> getting implemented as we speak.)
> 
> Cheers,
> Tali
> 
>> On 7/1/19, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Sandy,
>> Thanks for the explanation and the belief that I'm not often confused,
>> grin.
>> Sieghard had found information on their web site, which I didn't think to go
>> investigate. I kind of assumed that it would have been in the app store
>> description.
>> But, yes, bluetooth beacons have been around for several years now.
>> I just wish all the different approaches would come together into one
>> standard.
>> Blind Square was one of the earlier apps that I recall having worked out
>> navigating this way for indoor navigation, though there were others before
>> them.
>> Now the American Printing House for the Blind is working on them and these
>> Right Hear folks, etc.
>> I know mainly that the United States is way behind other countries in
>> adopting this kind of technology.
>> However, some airports have begun using them.
>> I had read about San Francisco having 500 beacons in one of their terminals
>> so that a person who is visually impaired with the right app, (no memory of
>> which app) could even find an outlet to recharge their devices.
>> I think this would be perfect for places like museums, etc. I know some
>> malls have them, and maybe one day they will be more wide spread.
>> Later,
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> Check out my web site at:
>> www.turner42.com
>> “The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of
>> flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack
>> lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas
>> Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>> 
>> 
>> The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't
>> have any." -- Alice Walker
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 1, 2019, at 3:24 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe
>> mailto:alapoint...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>> 
>>Hi all, this Righthear App, how far can you be to locate an object??  I
>> just came home from the deep woods of New Hampshire and this may have been a
>> good tool for me to have.  How would this differ from a wireless door bell
>> system? Andy and Shubert
>> 
>> From: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone
>> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 4:55 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: the right hear app
>> 
>> Richard, (the  often  confused? Close brackets never!
>> I understand that the labels are real and not virtual. if I remember
>> correctly, as I was researching this about a year ago, but  got distracted
>> by other technologies along the way,  The initial idea was to implement
>> these tags by way of consenting businesses/services et cetera, to make
>> public spaces more navigable. I asked them if I, as an individual, could
>> obtain beacons and implement them for myself. they thought this would be
>> possible, but then I moved onto other things and forgot about it. by the
>> way, my current and most favourite toy is the Sunu band. this works with
>> Sonar  rather than Bluetooth. but back to RightHear, they are very
>> approachable, and  seek  to get new 

RE: lyft ap question

[Debby]

Hi Kitty,

 

I haven’t added a stop in a while, and unfortunately I can’t test this because 
to add a stop you have to first pick your starting point and ending point and 
request the ride. Normally after you have requested a ride, you wait a bit and 
then you get a driver assigned. Either just before you get a driver assigned or 
right after, you will get the “add a stop” button. When you see it tap on it 
and you can request a stop. To finish there is a button of some sort on the 
screen to establish the stop addition. I remember you saying in the first email 
that you tapped on the “back“ button.  No you don’t want to hit the back 
button, just an “add” or “confirm” button. I can’t remember what it is called. 
(Of course who knows with every app update they seem to change stuff and 
sometimes slightly break it.)

 

Sorry I can’t be more specific! I even looked in the help on my phone and there 
doesn’t seem to be any information on adding a stop.

 

Hope this helps a little!

 

Debby

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Andy Baracco
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2019 10:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: lyft ap question

 

When you are setting up your ride, I believe that there is a button near the 
bottom of the screen for this purpose.

 

Andy

 

- Original Message - 

From: kitty hevener   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2019 7:06 PM

Subject: lyft ap question

 

How do you add a stop to a lyft ride?  

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Re: the right hear app

[Tali Sarnetzky]

Hi everyone.

I have the pleasure of working with these developers on the Right Hear
app and, as said before, it works with beacons within buildings to
provide information. It also shows a list of places that have this
accessibility feature in them, allows you to get directions to the
place or use an Uber-like service to get to an accessible venue, and
call someone for help if you are lost within the venue.
They work ceaselessly on making it a better app and always welcome
suggestions and feedback from users. They also hope to venture out of
Israel and offer accessible venues in other countries. (This is
getting implemented as we speak.)

Cheers,
Tali

On 7/1/19, Richard Turner  wrote:
>
> Hi Sandy,
> Thanks for the explanation and the belief that I'm not often confused,
> grin.
> Sieghard had found information on their web site, which I didn't think to go
> investigate. I kind of assumed that it would have been in the app store
> description.
> But, yes, bluetooth beacons have been around for several years now.
> I just wish all the different approaches would come together into one
> standard.
> Blind Square was one of the earlier apps that I recall having worked out
> navigating this way for indoor navigation, though there were others before
> them.
> Now the American Printing House for the Blind is working on them and these
> Right Hear folks, etc.
> I know mainly that the United States is way behind other countries in
> adopting this kind of technology.
> However, some airports have begun using them.
> I had read about San Francisco having 500 beacons in one of their terminals
> so that a person who is visually impaired with the right app, (no memory of
> which app) could even find an outlet to recharge their devices.
> I think this would be perfect for places like museums, etc. I know some
> malls have them, and maybe one day they will be more wide spread.
> Later,
> Richard
>
>
> Check out my web site at:
> www.turner42.com
> “The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of
> flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack
> lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas
> Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>
>
> The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't
> have any." -- Alice Walker
>
>
> On Jul 1, 2019, at 3:24 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe
> mailto:alapoint...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>
> Hi all, this Righthear App, how far can you be to locate an object??  I
> just came home from the deep woods of New Hampshire and this may have been a
> good tool for me to have.  How would this differ from a wireless door bell
> system? Andy and Shubert
>
> From: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone
> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 4:55 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: the right hear app
>
> Richard, (the  often  confused? Close brackets never!
> I understand that the labels are real and not virtual. if I remember
> correctly, as I was researching this about a year ago, but  got distracted
> by other technologies along the way,  The initial idea was to implement
> these tags by way of consenting businesses/services et cetera, to make
> public spaces more navigable. I asked them if I, as an individual, could
> obtain beacons and implement them for myself. they thought this would be
> possible, but then I moved onto other things and forgot about it. by the
> way, my current and most favourite toy is the Sunu band. this works with
> Sonar  rather than Bluetooth. but back to RightHear, they are very
> approachable, and  seek  to get new partners to work with, in different
> countries. I will take  a trawl  through my zillions of old emails, never
> deleted, and see if I can find some of my old correspondence. but the main
> thing is this, in theory at least, this solution is much more accurate and
> is  much more suitable for micro navigation, such as that which was raised
> in the original email, to find trees, postboxes, gates et cetera, Than GPS.
> We do seem to be in a particular point in time when many potential solutions
> abound, but none are quite perfected. Potential is exciting, but  actuality
> is much more  satisfying!
> Sandy.
>
> Sent from The dark side of the moon
>
> On 1 Jul 2019, at 00:28, Richard Turner
> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>
> Maybe Sandy will chime in on this. I also downloaded it and there are no
> physical tags, so maybe I misunderstood her and the label was a virtual one,
> and not a physical one.
> Richard, the often confused
>
>
>
>
> Check out my web site at:
> 

Re: the right hear app

[Richard Turner]

Hi Sandy,
Thanks for the explanation and the belief that I'm not often confused, grin.
Sieghard had found information on their web site, which I didn't think to go 
investigate. I kind of assumed that it would have been in the app store 
description.
But, yes, bluetooth beacons have been around for several years now.
I just wish all the different approaches would come together into one standard.
Blind Square was one of the earlier apps that I recall having worked out 
navigating this way for indoor navigation, though there were others before them.
Now the American Printing House for the Blind is working on them and these 
Right Hear folks, etc.
I know mainly that the United States is way behind other countries in adopting 
this kind of technology.
However, some airports have begun using them.
I had read about San Francisco having 500 beacons in one of their terminals so 
that a person who is visually impaired with the right app, (no memory of which 
app) could even find an outlet to recharge their devices.
I think this would be perfect for places like museums, etc. I know some malls 
have them, and maybe one day they will be more wide spread.
Later,
Richard


Check out my web site at: 
www.turner42.com
“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies 
in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, 
from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59


The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker


On Jul 1, 2019, at 3:24 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe 
mailto:alapoint...@comcast.net>> wrote:

Hi all, this Righthear App, how far can you be to locate an object??  I 
just came home from the deep woods of New Hampshire and this may have been a 
good tool for me to have.  How would this differ from a wireless door bell 
system? Andy and Shubert

From: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 4:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the right hear app

Richard, (the  often  confused? Close brackets never!
I understand that the labels are real and not virtual. if I remember correctly, 
as I was researching this about a year ago, but  got distracted by other 
technologies along the way,  The initial idea was to implement these tags by 
way of consenting businesses/services et cetera, to make public spaces more 
navigable. I asked them if I, as an individual, could obtain beacons and 
implement them for myself. they thought this would be possible, but then I 
moved onto other things and forgot about it. by the way, my current and most 
favourite toy is the Sunu band. this works with  Sonar  rather than Bluetooth. 
but back to RightHear, they are very approachable, and  seek  to get new 
partners to work with, in different countries. I will take  a trawl  through my 
zillions of old emails, never deleted, and see if I can find some of my old 
correspondence. but the main thing is this, in theory at least, this solution 
is much more accurate and  is  much more suitable for micro navigation, such as 
that which was raised in the original email, to find trees, postboxes, gates et 
cetera, Than GPS. We do seem to be in a particular point in time when many 
potential solutions abound, but none are quite perfected. Potential is 
exciting, but  actuality is much more  satisfying!
Sandy.

Sent from The dark side of the moon

On 1 Jul 2019, at 00:28, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Maybe Sandy will chime in on this. I also downloaded it and there are no 
physical tags, so maybe I misunderstood her and the label was a virtual one, 
and not a physical one.
Richard, the often confused




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On Jun 30, 2019, at 1:31 PM, Dan 
mailto:dbeaver...@gmail.com>> wrote:


I downloaded and installed this app and tried it out.  It doesn't seem to allow 
stationary labels that the app will track.  What it does is allow one to record 
a voice and text 

Re: the right hear app

[Andrew J. LaPointe]

Hi all, this Righthear App, how far can you be to locate an object??  I 
just came home from the deep woods of New Hampshire and this may have been a 
good tool for me to have.  How would this differ from a wireless door bell 
system? Andy and Shubert

From: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone 
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 4:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: the right hear app

Richard, (the  often  confused? Close brackets never!
I understand that the labels are real and not virtual. if I remember correctly, 
as I was researching this about a year ago, but  got distracted by other 
technologies along the way,  The initial idea was to implement these tags by 
way of consenting businesses/services et cetera, to make public spaces more 
navigable. I asked them if I, as an individual, could obtain beacons and 
implement them for myself. they thought this would be possible, but then I 
moved onto other things and forgot about it. by the way, my current and most 
favourite toy is the Sunu band. this works with  Sonar  rather than Bluetooth. 
but back to RightHear, they are very approachable, and  seek  to get new 
partners to work with, in different countries. I will take  a trawl  through my 
zillions of old emails, never deleted, and see if I can find some of my old 
correspondence. but the main thing is this, in theory at least, this solution 
is much more accurate and  is  much more suitable for micro navigation, such as 
that which was raised in the original email, to find trees, postboxes, gates et 
cetera, Than GPS. We do seem to be in a particular point in time when many 
potential solutions abound, but none are quite perfected. Potential is 
exciting, but  actuality is much more  satisfying!
Sandy. 


Sent from The dark side of the moon

On 1 Jul 2019, at 00:28, Richard Turner  wrote:


  Maybe Sandy will chime in on this. I also downloaded it and there are no 
physical tags, so maybe I misunderstood her and the label was a virtual one, 
and not a physical one. 
  Richard, the often confused




  Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

  “The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies 
in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, 
from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59



  The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker




  On Jun 30, 2019, at 1:31 PM, Dan  wrote:


I downloaded and installed this app and tried it out.  It doesn't seem to 
allow stationary labels that the app will track.  What it does is allow one to 
record a voice and text label for a given GPS location.  After doing that it 
includes that location in its list of near by locations.  Using these recorded 
locations I think it would get a person to within a few feet of the spot from 
what I can tell after trying it.




It also looks like you have to be at a given location in order to record a 
label for that location.





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Re: Braille Me 20 vs Orbit: Which to get?

[Angie Nutt]

I’ve heard a Braille Me being used while in the room with the person who was 
actually using it and it’s not that noisy really but would bother me if I was 
sitting in a room where others were watching TV or listening to music as I 
don’t think I’d like to be in a room with someone using it while doing those 
things. Mind you I get irritated if my husband is using his phone and we’re 
watching TV so of course, horses for courses.

All the best
Angie

> On 30 Jun 2019, at 01:20, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> Loud is in the ears of the beholder.
> I do not think it is that loud.
> If you are using it, to me it sounds like a little rainstick.
> One person 
> on the Orbit Reader list uses it to read scripture in church and no one finds 
> it distracting.
> I've used it in church to read the bulletin and hymn lyrics, and people in 
> the pew behind me hardly hear anything.
> If you are judging its noise based on some of the recordings that are out 
> there, they are very misleading since the microphone must have been right on 
> top of it, and ended up amplifying it.
> Just my ¢2 worth.
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> (Sent from the iPod Touch 6)
> 
> On Jun 29, 2019, at 5:12 PM, Susie Stageberg  > wrote:
> 
>> Just my tuppence worth: Orbit is a very noisy machine. It keeps up a 
>> constant clatter in a meeting as the dots refresh. And, no routing buttons. 
>> I bought a BrailleMe when they first came out; it would never pair with my 
>> iPhone. Cute little device, but I wanted it for the phone, so I sent it back 
>> within the 30 days I should say that the staff at National Braille Press, 
>> where I bought it, including the CEO, were wonderful in trying to help me 
>> make the marriage between phone and device work. 
>> 
>> Now, the BrailleMe has certainly been upgraded since I bought mine. I really 
>> value cursor routing buttons, so Orbit just isn't going to cut it. In the 
>> end, I bought myself a Brailliant 14. Works great. More money, but ...
>> 
>> Susie
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On 
>> Behalf Of Dean Martineau
>> Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2019 6:49 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: RE: Braille Me 20 vs Orbit: Which to get?
>> 
>> Orbit may cost a little more now, closer to $600 or $650. It does not have 
>> cursor routing keys and I personally don't like the layout of the keyboard 
>> with the space bar where it is, but the braille is great. 
>> 
>> The Braille Me has routing buttons, and somebody said that the newer units 
>> have better braille than the older ones had; there were problems before. It 
>> does not presently work with JAWS, while the Orbit works with both screen 
>> readers. 
>> 
>> I don't know what the return policy from the vendors is, but assuming you 
>> have 30 days or so, you could buy one and try it out. That's an annoying way 
>> to learn, but there may not be alternatives.
>> 
>> Dean
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
>> Yohandy Rodriguez
>> Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2019 6:40 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Braille Me 20 vs Orbit: Which to get?
>> 
>> Any advice guys? Are there huge differences between them? I'm just 
>> looking for a relatively cheap display, with crisp Braille, that works 
>> well with smartphones and pc using Jaws and NVDA. Are there other cheap 
>> displays I should know of? If any of you own both, I'd appreciate any 
>> info you can provide. thanks!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Using Small Braille Display Question, was Re: Braille for seniors?!

[Angie Nutt]

I use a 12 cell display just for reading. The smallest I ever had was 9 cell. 
It’s something I quickly got used to and like small displays as easier to take 
away on holiday etc if I want. I wouldn’t rule out using a larger one though 
but it was what I could afford at the time.

All the best
Angie


> On 29 Jun 2019, at 21:45, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
> 
> I have never used a braille display,  so I hope this question is not too 
> silly. But for those who have one of the smaller displays, what do you use it 
> to do?  The only reason I would invest in a braille display of any kind would 
> be to read books and magazines from BARD and Bookshare. But I would think it 
> would become really tedious to read a book with a less than 20-cell display, 
> being only able to read three or four words at most, then having to have it 
> refresh to read a few more words. Those whom I have asked say the main value 
> in these small displays is in their  ability to write braille, or maybe to 
> check the spelling of a word. But I surely can buy a bunch of bluetooth 
> keyboards for the price of even the cheapest small braille display, or I can 
> use Apple Braille Screen input, as I am doing to write this message. And, I 
> already know how to get VoiceOver to spell that word. If I ever were to get a 
> display, I think it would be at least 32 cells, preferably 40, which is the 
> length of a line in a braille book. Those whom I know and have asked say that 
> they rarely use even their large displays to read books, paper braille is 
> much more satisfactory.  I definitely believe  there may be something about 
> this subject that I don't know. So, thanks for any enlightenment. 
> 
> Arnold Schmidt 
> 
> 
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> On Jun 29, 2019, at 2:31 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> The thing about Hadley is that they teach all over the world. 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Carolyn 
> 
> 
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> Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2019 9:54 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Braille for seniors?!
> 
> Hello karuna,
> 
> Sounds like you already have a good start!  I don't think there are any hard 
> & fast rules about age & learning.  It all depends on the person.  And if you 
> speak more than one language, I think you already have an ability to learning 
> a new one.  Braille isn't exactly a new language but I think some of the same 
> learning skills apply.
> 
> I learned Braille as an adult in my 40s.  I found it was like learning to 
> type sort of, lots of practice.  And although I can read Braille now, I am 
> not fast enough that I would want to try a book.  I can get by with menus & 
> other things I need to read.  
> 
> If you have a local vocational rehab, you might be able to learn it from 
> someone there.  If not, maybe they can at least suggest somewhere where you 
> could get instruction.  You might also just google where to learn Braille or 
> something like that to see what shows up.  I think you could teach yourself 
> if you could find a good source to learn from.  And, again, you really are 
> already learning it via your phone!
> 
> Good luck,
> Sherry Wells
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of karuna 
> Chopra
> Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2019 1:14 AM
> To: ViPhone 
> Subject: Braille for seniors?!
> 
> Is it possible for someone over the age of 65 to learn braille?
> Exploring the accessibility features of my new iPhone, I chanced upon the 
> Braille entry option on the rotor. I tried using it and was amazed at how 
> quickly I could start typing in Braille! It was also fun and fast!
> Therefore my question-can someone over the age of 65 learn to read Braille? 
> I know that with practice I could learn to type in Braille.
> But reading braille?? Learning to interpret those raised dots into alphabets 
> at a reasonably fast speed! Is it possible for me?
> If yes, how should I go about doing it?
> Should I be buying a refreshable Braille display?
> Help, guidance or any indication about this would be wonderful!
> K
> 
> P.S. I am actually many years over 65! But ladies are not supposed to give 
> their age :-)
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Re: GPS app four labeling a location

['Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone]

Richard,
I believe they are both weatherproof and inexpensive, however, as I am at least 
one year out of the loop and things may have changed, perhaps we should invite 
the RightHear team to join us in the VIPhone group list?
Sandy

Sent from The dark side of the moon

> On 30 Jun 2019, at 20:51, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> 
> interesting idea Sandy, but that would mean attaching a label in the mailbox.
> How weather proof are these labels? How expensive?
> Inquiring minds and all that.
> Richard
> 
> 
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> lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas 
> Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
> 
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> any." -- Alice Walker
> 
> 
> On Jun 30, 2019, at 12:38 PM, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Not a GPS solution, but soething that might prove more accurate, an app 
>> called "right hear" Note the spelling of "hear", it is a bluetooth 
>> navigation app and, i think, you can get literal lables to attach to things 
>> you will want to find. Then you just point you phone in the right direction 
>> until it buzzes, keep that line as you approach and there you are! I have 
>> the app, but not the lables yet. Also, if your tree is alone, perhaps, 
>> "invision ai" with its object recognition, might help? It does seem to work 
>> quite well in real time.
>> 
>> HTH Sandy.  
>> 
>> Sent from The dark side of the moon
>> 
>> On 30 Jun 2019, at 20:21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> hi Juan,
>>> Try Lazarillo.
>>> It is free, you can set favorites, and it has its own walking GPS mapping.
>>> Of course, GPS accuracy can vary quite a bit, but it should be able to get 
>>> you within 50 feet of a location, and maybe closer.
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>>> “The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
>>> flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack 
>>> lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas 
>>> Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>>> 
>>> The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't 
>>> have any." -- Alice Walker
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jun 30, 2019, at 12:04 PM, juan mojena  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Richard 
 what I need is  to label a location  on my property which is an acre and I 
 want to label a certain area like a mailbox or  maybe a tree. I know that 
 the Victor reader trek can do this.
  
 
 
 Juan Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 30, 2019, at 10:44 AM, Richard Turner  
 wrote:
 
 Once you have entered a location in Google Maps, you can save it with a 
 name.
 I have several done that way.
 But, you have to either be at the place, or have entered the address and 
 selected save or favorite.
 Is that what you are looking for?
 If it is a business, Google lets you search by the business name.
 
 Richard
 
 
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 Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
 
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 have any." -- Alice Walker
 
 
 On Jun 29, 2019, at 3:45 PM, juan mojena  wrote:
 
> Hi listers
> Is there a GPS app that will allow the labeling of a location rather than 
> entering an address?
> 
> Juan 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: the right hear app

['Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone]

Richard, (the  often  confused? Close brackets never!
I understand that the labels are real and not virtual. if I remember correctly, 
as I was researching this about a year ago, but  got distracted by other 
technologies along the way,  The initial idea was to implement these tags by 
way of consenting businesses/services et cetera, to make public spaces more 
navigable. I asked them if I, as an individual, could obtain beacons and 
implement them for myself. they thought this would be possible, but then I 
moved onto other things and forgot about it. by the way, my current and most 
favourite toy is the Sunu band. this works with  Sonar  rather than Bluetooth. 
but back to RightHear, they are very approachable, and  seek  to get new 
partners to work with, in different countries. I will take  a trawl  through my 
zillions of old emails, never deleted, and see if I can find some of my old 
correspondence. but the main thing is this, in theory at least, this solution 
is much more accurate and  is  much more suitable for micro navigation, such as 
that which was raised in the original email, to find trees, postboxes, gates et 
cetera, Than GPS. We do seem to be in a particular point in time when many 
potential solutions abound, but none are quite perfected. Potential is 
exciting, but  actuality is much more  satisfying!
Sandy. 

Sent from The dark side of the moon

> On 1 Jul 2019, at 00:28, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> Maybe Sandy will chime in on this. I also downloaded it and there are no 
> physical tags, so maybe I misunderstood her and the label was a virtual one, 
> and not a physical one.
> Richard, the often confused
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
> “The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
> flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack 
> lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas 
> Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
> 
> The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
> any." -- Alice Walker
> 
> 
> On Jun 30, 2019, at 1:31 PM, Dan  wrote:
> 
>> I downloaded and installed this app and tried it out.  It doesn't seem to 
>> allow stationary labels that the app will track.  What it does is allow one 
>> to record a voice and text label for a given GPS location.  After doing that 
>> it includes that location in its list of near by locations.  Using these 
>> recorded locations I think it would get a person to within a few feet of the 
>> spot from what I can tell after trying it.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> It also looks like you have to be at a given location in order to record a 
>> label for that location.
>> 
>> 
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