So what is the difference between this app and Microsoft Soundscape? I’m pretty 
sure both apps have their key points.

> On Jul 1, 2019, at 11:43 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> OK, I'll do that.
> 
> Take care,
> Sieghard
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tali 
> Sarnetzky
> Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 8:38 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: the right hear app
> 
> I think you are right, Sieghard.
> You can contact any of them through the website and they will gladly help.
> 
> Cheers,
> Tali
> 
>> On 7/2/19, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I think for really accurate navigating the beacons are the way to go. 
>> Dan I think mentioned maybe marking where he dropped his tool bag and 
>> to find it this way. But consider this, even if you have 5 meter 
>> accuracy which is 16 feet, that still gives you a circle of 10 meters 
>> or 32 feet, such a circle has an area of just over 800 square feet or 
>> 78 square meters which is still a pretty large area.
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
>> Tali Sarnetzky
>> Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 8:12 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: the right hear app
>> 
>> Hi everyone.
>> 
>> I presented your questions to my friends at Right Hear.
>> As Siegert said, the recording and labelling of places works when you 
>> get a GPS accuracy of under eight meters, which means it works best 
>> outside, in the Outdoors mode of the app. This can be useful when you 
>> learn a new route and need to label certain spots. You can record any 
>> text you wish, such as info about intersections you need to cross, the 
>> locations of bus stops, etc.
>> 
>> At the moment, the app works with a specific type of beacon, so it is 
>> best to purchase such beacons through the company. My friend told me a 
>> few beterans in the States have already done this to lable spots in 
>> their own house or workplace. There is a plan to offer support for 
>> more kinds of beacons in the near future, so it is just a matter of time.
>> When you purchase beacons, you work through a website to enter the 
>> info you want and they are working all the time to make sure this part 
>> of the website is accessible as well.
>> 
>> In a couple of weeks, they are going to have a few webinars of 
>> questions and answers. I will post the dates and links as soon as I 
>> can. And as I have said before, they love hearing suggestions and 
>> getting feedback. From day one they have had the user's experience in 
>> first priority and that's why I love working with them.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Tali
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 7/1/19, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Sandy,
>>> 
>>> At first when I recorded a label I thought it didn’t record anything 
>>> but then I realized that when I tapped on my recording that it did 
>>> speak my recorded word, but in a very low volume
>>> 
>>> From: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 10:13 AM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: the right hear app
>>> 
>>> does anyone know what this means?
>>> 
>>> what is the focus with voice-over thing about?
>>> Sent from The dark side of the moon
>>> 
>>> On 1 Jul 2019, at 17:07, Sieghard Weitzel 
>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> I just downloaded this app and it looks very interesting, clean and 
>>> simple.
>>> The record button is right there (no pun intended) on the main screen.
>>> All you have to do is to double tap on it to record a location. Keep 
>>> in mind that this only works if your GPS accuracy is at least 8 
>>> metres or better, but it will tell you if it is not.
>>> You can later on double tap and hold the recordings button if you 
>>> want to see a list of your recordings/locations.
>>> Looks like this app uses information from Open Street maps which 
>>> unfortunately often can be quite outdated. For example, it shows the 
>>> “Hill Top Pub” which is supposed to be about 400 metres away except 
>>> that this pub has been closed for about 3 years.
>>> Considering this is a free app which allows for turn by turn 
>>> navigation to an address or location as well as providing nearby 
>>> information and so on this is a nice app to have for people who don’t 
>>> want to pay for Seeing Eye or Nearby Explorer.
>>> 
>>> From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf 
>>> Of Andrew J. LaPointe
>>> Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 7:56 AM
>>> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: the right hear app
>>> 
>>>    The instructions says that you can record something via the 
>>> menu....How do you get to the area to record an item or area that you 
>>> want to use at a later time?
>>> 
>>> From: Dan<mailto:[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 10:13 AM
>>> To: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone<mailto:[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: the right hear app
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I can see  use for the beacons in an unfamiliar very large environment.
>>> However, if it is a commonly visited place and you have the time and 
>>> help you could just go to places within the site and record a label 
>>> and then the app would recognize it from then on when you visit again.
>>> When I tried it it actually got me within a few feet if I missed it.
>>> I am considering using it for when I am working in the yard.  I can 
>>> drop a tool or bag of tools or whatever.  I can then record the label 
>>> for that location and if I need to get back to that bag of tools I 
>>> can rotate the phone until I hear "bag of tools" or whatever I 
>>> labeled it and then walk to it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Since I have taken to using my cane in the yard to avoid the toys and 
>>> other debris my grandchildren move around getting within a few feet 
>>> should allow me to find the item with my cane.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Interesting app indeed.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dan Beaver
>>>> On 7/1/2019 9:17 AM, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone wrote:
>>> 
>>> hi Tali,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>    Thanks for jumping in here. It seems to me that there are, at 
>>> least, 2 possible use options for RightHear. 1. in large public 
>>> spaces, airports, railway stations, hospitals, hotels etc. 2. 
>>> Domestic use, as expressed here, labelling the post box, a particular 
>>> tree as a landmark, gates etc. Could you comment on how this latter 
>>> option might be acquired by some of us? I, for example, live on an 
>>> acre of land, in rural ireland, and would love to be able to label 
>>> and find different landmarks outside of my house, would this be 
>>> possible?i might also want to take these same labels with me on 
>>> holiday and use them there, with new info recorded on them, would 
>>> this be something I could easily do? Also, what kind of range will they 
>>> cover and are they weatherproof?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>    Sorry if this puts pressure on you, but i am very interested in 
>>> the answers!!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sandy.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from The dark side of the moon
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 1 Jul 2019, at 12:56, Tali Sarnetzky 
>>> mailto:[email protected]
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I have the pleasure of working with these developers on the Right 
>>> Hear
>>> 
>>> app and, as said before, it works with beacons within buildings to
>>> 
>>> provide information. It also shows a list of places that have this
>>> 
>>> accessibility feature in them, allows you to get directions to the
>>> 
>>> place or use an Uber-like service to get to an accessible venue, and
>>> 
>>> call someone for help if you are lost within the venue.
>>> 
>>> They work ceaselessly on making it a better app and always welcome
>>> 
>>> suggestions and feedback from users. They also hope to venture out of
>>> 
>>> Israel and offer accessible venues in other countries. (This is
>>> 
>>> getting implemented as we speak.)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Tali
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 7/1/19, Richard Turner mailto:[email protected] wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Sandy,
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the explanation and the belief that I'm not often 
>>> confused,
>>> 
>>> grin.
>>> 
>>> Sieghard had found information on their web site, which I didn't 
>>> think to go
>>> 
>>> investigate. I kind of assumed that it would have been in the app 
>>> store
>>> 
>>> description.
>>> 
>>> But, yes, bluetooth beacons have been around for several years now.
>>> 
>>> I just wish all the different approaches would come together into one
>>> 
>>> standard.
>>> 
>>> Blind Square was one of the earlier apps that I recall having worked 
>>> out
>>> 
>>> navigating this way for indoor navigation, though there were others 
>>> before
>>> 
>>> them.
>>> 
>>> Now the American Printing House for the Blind is working on them and 
>>> these
>>> 
>>> Right Hear folks, etc.
>>> 
>>> I know mainly that the United States is way behind other countries in
>>> 
>>> adopting this kind of technology.
>>> 
>>> However, some airports have begun using them.
>>> 
>>> I had read about San Francisco having 500 beacons in one of their 
>>> terminals
>>> 
>>> so that a person who is visually impaired with the right app, (no 
>>> memory of
>>> 
>>> which app) could even find an outlet to recharge their devices.
>>> 
>>> I think this would be perfect for places like museums, etc. I know 
>>> some
>>> 
>>> malls have them, and maybe one day they will be more wide spread.
>>> 
>>> Later,
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> “The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject 
>>> of
>>> 
>>> flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The 
>>> knack
>>> 
>>> lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
>>> --Douglas
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they 
>>> don't
>>> 
>>> have any." -- Alice Walker
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jul 1, 2019, at 3:24 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe
>>> 
>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>mailto:alapoi
>>> n
>>> [email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   Hi all, this Righthear App, how far can you be to locate an 
>>> object??  I
>>> 
>>> just came home from the deep woods of New Hampshire and this may have 
>>> been a
>>> 
>>> good tool for me to have.  How would this differ from a wireless door 
>>> bell
>>> 
>>> system? Andy and Shubert
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhonemailto:[email protected]
>>> 
>>> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 4:55 AM
>>> 
>>> To:
>>> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>mailto:vipho
>>> n
>>> [email protected]
>>> 
>>> Subject: Re: the right hear app
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard, (the  often  confused? Close brackets never!
>>> 
>>> I understand that the labels are real and not virtual. if I remember
>>> 
>>> correctly, as I was researching this about a year ago, but  got 
>>> distracted
>>> 
>>> by other technologies along the way,  The initial idea was to 
>>> implement
>>> 
>>> these tags by way of consenting businesses/services et cetera, to 
>>> make
>>> 
>>> public spaces more navigable. I asked them if I, as an individual, 
>>> could
>>> 
>>> obtain beacons and implement them for myself. they thought this would 
>>> be
>>> 
>>> possible, but then I moved onto other things and forgot about it. by 
>>> the
>>> 
>>> way, my current and most favourite toy is the Sunu band. this works 
>>> with
>>> 
>>> Sonar  rather than Bluetooth. but back to RightHear, they are very
>>> 
>>> approachable, and  seek  to get new partners to work with, in 
>>> different
>>> 
>>> countries. I will take  a trawl  through my zillions of old emails, 
>>> never
>>> 
>>> deleted, and see if I can find some of my old correspondence. but the 
>>> main
>>> 
>>> thing is this, in theory at least, this solution is much more 
>>> accurate and
>>> 
>>> is  much more suitable for micro navigation, such as that which was 
>>> raised
>>> 
>>> in the original email, to find trees, postboxes, gates et cetera, 
>>> Than GPS.
>>> 
>>> We do seem to be in a particular point in time when many potential 
>>> solutions
>>> 
>>> abound, but none are quite perfected. Potential is exciting, but 
>>> actuality
>>> 
>>> is much more  satisfying!
>>> 
>>> Sandy.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from The dark side of the moon
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 1 Jul 2019, at 00:28, Richard Turner
>>> 
>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>mailt
>>> o
>>> :[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Maybe Sandy will chime in on this. I also downloaded it and there are 
>>> no
>>> 
>>> physical tags, so maybe I misunderstood her and the label was a 
>>> virtual one,
>>> 
>>> and not a physical one.
>>> 
>>> Richard, the often confused
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> of
>>> 
>>> flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The 
>>> knack
>>> 
>>> lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
>>> --Douglas
>>> 
>>> Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they 
>>> don't
>>> 
>>> have any." -- Alice Walker
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jun 30, 2019, at 1:31 PM, Dan
>>> 
>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>mailto:dbeaver888@g
>>> m
>>> ail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I downloaded and installed this app and tried it out.  It doesn't 
>>> seem to
>>> 
>>> allow stationary labels that the app will track.  What it does is 
>>> allow one
>>> 
>>> to record a voice and text label for a given GPS location.  After 
>>> doing that
>>> 
>>> it includes that location in its list of near by locations.  Using 
>>> these
>>> 
>>> recorded locations I think it would get a person to within a few feet 
>>> of the
>>> 
>>> spot from what I can tell after trying it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It also looks like you have to be at a given location in order to 
>>> record a
>>> 
>>> label for that location.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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