I think you are right, Sieghard.
You can contact any of them through the website and they will gladly help.

Cheers,
Tali

On 7/2/19, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> I think for really accurate navigating the beacons are the way to go. Dan I
> think mentioned maybe marking where he dropped his tool bag and to find it
> this way. But consider this, even if you have 5 meter accuracy which is 16
> feet, that still gives you a circle of 10 meters or 32 feet, such a circle
> has an area of just over 800 square feet or 78 square meters which is still
> a pretty large area.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Tali
> Sarnetzky
> Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 8:12 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: the right hear app
>
> Hi everyone.
>
> I presented your questions to my friends at Right Hear.
> As Siegert said, the recording and labelling of places works when you get a
> GPS accuracy of under eight meters, which means it works best outside, in
> the Outdoors mode of the app. This can be useful when you learn a new route
> and need to label certain spots. You can record any text you wish, such as
> info about intersections you need to cross, the locations of bus stops,
> etc.
>
> At the moment, the app works with a specific type of beacon, so it is best
> to purchase such beacons through the company. My friend told me a few
> beterans in the States have already done this to lable spots in their own
> house or workplace. There is a plan to offer support for more kinds of
> beacons in the near future, so it is just a matter of time.
> When you purchase beacons, you work through a website to enter the info you
> want and they are working all the time to make sure this part of the website
> is accessible as well.
>
> In a couple of weeks, they are going to have a few webinars of questions and
> answers. I will post the dates and links as soon as I can. And as I have
> said before, they love hearing suggestions and getting feedback. From day
> one they have had the user's experience in first priority and that's why I
> love working with them.
>
> Cheers,
> Tali
>
>
>
> On 7/1/19, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>> Sandy,
>>
>> At first when I recorded a label I thought it didn’t record anything
>> but then I realized that when I tapped on my recording that it did
>> speak my recorded word, but in a very low volume
>>
>> From: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 10:13 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: the right hear app
>>
>> does anyone know what this means?
>>
>> what is the focus with voice-over thing about?
>> Sent from The dark side of the moon
>>
>> On 1 Jul 2019, at 17:07, Sieghard Weitzel
>> <siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
>> I just downloaded this app and it looks very interesting, clean and
>> simple.
>> The record button is right there (no pun intended) on the main screen.
>> All you have to do is to double tap on it to record a location. Keep
>> in mind that this only works if your GPS accuracy is at least 8 metres
>> or better, but it will tell you if it is not.
>> You can later on double tap and hold the recordings button if you want
>> to see a list of your recordings/locations.
>> Looks like this app uses information from Open Street maps which
>> unfortunately often can be quite outdated. For example, it shows the
>> “Hill Top Pub” which is supposed to be about 400 metres away except
>> that this pub has been closed for about 3 years.
>> Considering this is a free app which allows for turn by turn
>> navigation to an address or location as well as providing nearby
>> information and so on this is a nice app to have for people who don’t
>> want to pay for Seeing Eye or Nearby Explorer.
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf
>> Of Andrew J. LaPointe
>> Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 7:56 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: the right hear app
>>
>>     The instructions says that you can record something via the
>> menu....How do you get to the area to record an item or area that you
>> want to use at a later time?
>>
>> From: Dan<mailto:dbeaver...@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 10:13 AM
>> To: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: the right hear app
>>
>>
>> I can see  use for the beacons in an unfamiliar very large environment.
>> However, if it is a commonly visited place and you have the time and
>> help you could just go to places within the site and record a label
>> and then the app would recognize it from then on when you visit again.
>> When I tried it it actually got me within a few feet if I missed it.
>> I am considering using it for when I am working in the yard.  I can
>> drop a tool or bag of tools or whatever.  I can then record the label
>> for that location and if I need to get back to that bag of tools I can
>> rotate the phone until I hear "bag of tools" or whatever I labeled it and
>> then walk to it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Since I have taken to using my cane in the yard to avoid the toys and
>> other debris my grandchildren move around getting within a few feet
>> should allow me to find the item with my cane.
>>
>>
>>
>> Interesting app indeed.
>>
>>
>>
>> Dan Beaver
>> On 7/1/2019 9:17 AM, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone wrote:
>>
>> hi Tali,
>>
>>
>>
>>     Thanks for jumping in here. It seems to me that there are, at
>> least, 2 possible use options for RightHear. 1. in large public
>> spaces, airports, railway stations, hospitals, hotels etc. 2. Domestic
>> use, as expressed here, labelling the post box, a particular tree as a
>> landmark, gates etc. Could you comment on how this latter option might
>> be acquired by some of us? I, for example, live on an acre of land, in
>> rural ireland, and would love to be able to label and find different
>> landmarks outside of my house, would this be possible?i might also
>> want to take these same labels with me on holiday and use them there,
>> with new info recorded on them, would this be something I could easily
>> do? Also, what kind of range will they cover and are they weatherproof?
>>
>>
>>
>>     Sorry if this puts pressure on you, but i am very interested in
>> the answers!!
>>
>>
>>
>> Sandy.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from The dark side of the moon
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1 Jul 2019, at 12:56, Tali Sarnetzky
>> mailto:tali.sarnet...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi everyone.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have the pleasure of working with these developers on the Right Hear
>>
>> app and, as said before, it works with beacons within buildings to
>>
>> provide information. It also shows a list of places that have this
>>
>> accessibility feature in them, allows you to get directions to the
>>
>> place or use an Uber-like service to get to an accessible venue, and
>>
>> call someone for help if you are lost within the venue.
>>
>> They work ceaselessly on making it a better app and always welcome
>>
>> suggestions and feedback from users. They also hope to venture out of
>>
>> Israel and offer accessible venues in other countries. (This is
>>
>> getting implemented as we speak.)
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Tali
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7/1/19, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Sandy,
>>
>> Thanks for the explanation and the belief that I'm not often confused,
>>
>> grin.
>>
>> Sieghard had found information on their web site, which I didn't think
>> to go
>>
>> investigate. I kind of assumed that it would have been in the app
>> store
>>
>> description.
>>
>> But, yes, bluetooth beacons have been around for several years now.
>>
>> I just wish all the different approaches would come together into one
>>
>> standard.
>>
>> Blind Square was one of the earlier apps that I recall having worked
>> out
>>
>> navigating this way for indoor navigation, though there were others
>> before
>>
>> them.
>>
>> Now the American Printing House for the Blind is working on them and
>> these
>>
>> Right Hear folks, etc.
>>
>> I know mainly that the United States is way behind other countries in
>>
>> adopting this kind of technology.
>>
>> However, some airports have begun using them.
>>
>> I had read about San Francisco having 500 beacons in one of their
>> terminals
>>
>> so that a person who is visually impaired with the right app, (no
>> memory of
>>
>> which app) could even find an outlet to recharge their devices.
>>
>> I think this would be perfect for places like museums, etc. I know
>> some
>>
>> malls have them, and maybe one day they will be more wide spread.
>>
>> Later,
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Check out my web site at:
>>
>> www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com><https://eur03.safelinks.prot
>> ection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com&data=02%7C01%7C%
>> 7C633c05971fbe4621637e08d6bb714c96%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%
>> 7C1%7C0%7C636902492616129219&sdata=9qG6zwn2QJ9Xe5fJyao6MewzLG36u7TAieL
>> K72Tg19c%3D&reserved=0><https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com
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>> 2616129219&sdata=9qG6zwn2QJ9Xe5fJyao6MewzLG36u7TAieLK72Tg19c%3D&reserv
>> ed=0>
>>
>> “The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject
>> of
>>
>> flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The
>> knack
>>
>> lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
>> --Douglas
>>
>> Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they
>> don't
>>
>> have any." -- Alice Walker
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 1, 2019, at 3:24 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe
>>
>> <alapoint...@comcast.net<mailto:alapoint...@comcast.net>mailto:alapoin
>> t...@comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>    Hi all, this Righthear App, how far can you be to locate an
>> object??  I
>>
>> just came home from the deep woods of New Hampshire and this may have
>> been a
>>
>> good tool for me to have.  How would this differ from a wireless door
>> bell
>>
>> system? Andy and Shubert
>>
>>
>>
>> From: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhonemailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
>>
>> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 4:55 AM
>>
>> To:
>> viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>mailto:viphon
>> e...@googlegroups.com
>>
>> Subject: Re: the right hear app
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard, (the  often  confused? Close brackets never!
>>
>> I understand that the labels are real and not virtual. if I remember
>>
>> correctly, as I was researching this about a year ago, but  got
>> distracted
>>
>> by other technologies along the way,  The initial idea was to
>> implement
>>
>> these tags by way of consenting businesses/services et cetera, to make
>>
>> public spaces more navigable. I asked them if I, as an individual,
>> could
>>
>> obtain beacons and implement them for myself. they thought this would
>> be
>>
>> possible, but then I moved onto other things and forgot about it. by
>> the
>>
>> way, my current and most favourite toy is the Sunu band. this works
>> with
>>
>> Sonar  rather than Bluetooth. but back to RightHear, they are very
>>
>> approachable, and  seek  to get new partners to work with, in
>> different
>>
>> countries. I will take  a trawl  through my zillions of old emails,
>> never
>>
>> deleted, and see if I can find some of my old correspondence. but the
>> main
>>
>> thing is this, in theory at least, this solution is much more accurate
>> and
>>
>> is  much more suitable for micro navigation, such as that which was
>> raised
>>
>> in the original email, to find trees, postboxes, gates et cetera, Than
>> GPS.
>>
>> We do seem to be in a particular point in time when many potential
>> solutions
>>
>> abound, but none are quite perfected. Potential is exciting, but
>> actuality
>>
>> is much more  satisfying!
>>
>> Sandy.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from The dark side of the moon
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1 Jul 2019, at 00:28, Richard Turner
>>
>> <richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>mailto
>> :richardturne...@outlook.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Maybe Sandy will chime in on this. I also downloaded it and there are
>> no
>>
>> physical tags, so maybe I misunderstood her and the label was a
>> virtual one,
>>
>> and not a physical one.
>>
>> Richard, the often confused
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Check out my web site at:
>>
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>> ection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com&data=02%7C01%7C%
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>> 734634054109&sdata=flZC7b0NXn5vb%2FPNFCpNO91aJqXzpFKNymuhhXOAiSE%3D&re
>> served=0>
>>
>> “The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject
>> of
>>
>> flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The
>> knack
>>
>> lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
>> --Douglas
>>
>> Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they
>> don't
>>
>> have any." -- Alice Walker
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 30, 2019, at 1:31 PM, Dan
>>
>> <dbeaver...@gmail.com<mailto:dbeaver...@gmail.com>mailto:dbeaver888@gm
>> ail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I downloaded and installed this app and tried it out.  It doesn't seem
>> to
>>
>> allow stationary labels that the app will track.  What it does is
>> allow one
>>
>> to record a voice and text label for a given GPS location.  After
>> doing that
>>
>> it includes that location in its list of near by locations.  Using
>> these
>>
>> recorded locations I think it would get a person to within a few feet
>> of the
>>
>> spot from what I can tell after trying it.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> It also looks like you have to be at a given location in order to
>> record a
>>
>> label for that location.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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