I think you are right, Sieghard. You can contact any of them through the website and they will gladly help.
Cheers, Tali On 7/2/19, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: > I think for really accurate navigating the beacons are the way to go. Dan I > think mentioned maybe marking where he dropped his tool bag and to find it > this way. But consider this, even if you have 5 meter accuracy which is 16 > feet, that still gives you a circle of 10 meters or 32 feet, such a circle > has an area of just over 800 square feet or 78 square meters which is still > a pretty large area. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Tali > Sarnetzky > Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 8:12 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: the right hear app > > Hi everyone. > > I presented your questions to my friends at Right Hear. > As Siegert said, the recording and labelling of places works when you get a > GPS accuracy of under eight meters, which means it works best outside, in > the Outdoors mode of the app. This can be useful when you learn a new route > and need to label certain spots. You can record any text you wish, such as > info about intersections you need to cross, the locations of bus stops, > etc. > > At the moment, the app works with a specific type of beacon, so it is best > to purchase such beacons through the company. My friend told me a few > beterans in the States have already done this to lable spots in their own > house or workplace. There is a plan to offer support for more kinds of > beacons in the near future, so it is just a matter of time. > When you purchase beacons, you work through a website to enter the info you > want and they are working all the time to make sure this part of the website > is accessible as well. > > In a couple of weeks, they are going to have a few webinars of questions and > answers. I will post the dates and links as soon as I can. And as I have > said before, they love hearing suggestions and getting feedback. From day > one they have had the user's experience in first priority and that's why I > love working with them. > > Cheers, > Tali > > > > On 7/1/19, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: >> Sandy, >> >> At first when I recorded a label I thought it didn’t record anything >> but then I realized that when I tapped on my recording that it did >> speak my recorded word, but in a very low volume >> >> From: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 10:13 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: the right hear app >> >> does anyone know what this means? >> >> what is the focus with voice-over thing about? >> Sent from The dark side of the moon >> >> On 1 Jul 2019, at 17:07, Sieghard Weitzel >> <siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: >> I just downloaded this app and it looks very interesting, clean and >> simple. >> The record button is right there (no pun intended) on the main screen. >> All you have to do is to double tap on it to record a location. Keep >> in mind that this only works if your GPS accuracy is at least 8 metres >> or better, but it will tell you if it is not. >> You can later on double tap and hold the recordings button if you want >> to see a list of your recordings/locations. >> Looks like this app uses information from Open Street maps which >> unfortunately often can be quite outdated. For example, it shows the >> “Hill Top Pub” which is supposed to be about 400 metres away except >> that this pub has been closed for about 3 years. >> Considering this is a free app which allows for turn by turn >> navigation to an address or location as well as providing nearby >> information and so on this is a nice app to have for people who don’t >> want to pay for Seeing Eye or Nearby Explorer. >> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf >> Of Andrew J. LaPointe >> Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 7:56 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> Subject: Re: the right hear app >> >> The instructions says that you can record something via the >> menu....How do you get to the area to record an item or area that you >> want to use at a later time? >> >> From: Dan<mailto:dbeaver...@gmail.com> >> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 10:13 AM >> To: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> Subject: Re: the right hear app >> >> >> I can see use for the beacons in an unfamiliar very large environment. >> However, if it is a commonly visited place and you have the time and >> help you could just go to places within the site and record a label >> and then the app would recognize it from then on when you visit again. >> When I tried it it actually got me within a few feet if I missed it. >> I am considering using it for when I am working in the yard. I can >> drop a tool or bag of tools or whatever. I can then record the label >> for that location and if I need to get back to that bag of tools I can >> rotate the phone until I hear "bag of tools" or whatever I labeled it and >> then walk to it. >> >> >> >> Since I have taken to using my cane in the yard to avoid the toys and >> other debris my grandchildren move around getting within a few feet >> should allow me to find the item with my cane. >> >> >> >> Interesting app indeed. >> >> >> >> Dan Beaver >> On 7/1/2019 9:17 AM, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone wrote: >> >> hi Tali, >> >> >> >> Thanks for jumping in here. It seems to me that there are, at >> least, 2 possible use options for RightHear. 1. in large public >> spaces, airports, railway stations, hospitals, hotels etc. 2. Domestic >> use, as expressed here, labelling the post box, a particular tree as a >> landmark, gates etc. Could you comment on how this latter option might >> be acquired by some of us? I, for example, live on an acre of land, in >> rural ireland, and would love to be able to label and find different >> landmarks outside of my house, would this be possible?i might also >> want to take these same labels with me on holiday and use them there, >> with new info recorded on them, would this be something I could easily >> do? Also, what kind of range will they cover and are they weatherproof? >> >> >> >> Sorry if this puts pressure on you, but i am very interested in >> the answers!! >> >> >> >> Sandy. >> >> >> >> Sent from The dark side of the moon >> >> >> >> On 1 Jul 2019, at 12:56, Tali Sarnetzky >> mailto:tali.sarnet...@gmail.com >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi everyone. >> >> >> >> I have the pleasure of working with these developers on the Right Hear >> >> app and, as said before, it works with beacons within buildings to >> >> provide information. It also shows a list of places that have this >> >> accessibility feature in them, allows you to get directions to the >> >> place or use an Uber-like service to get to an accessible venue, and >> >> call someone for help if you are lost within the venue. >> >> They work ceaselessly on making it a better app and always welcome >> >> suggestions and feedback from users. They also hope to venture out of >> >> Israel and offer accessible venues in other countries. (This is >> >> getting implemented as we speak.) >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Tali >> >> >> >> On 7/1/19, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi Sandy, >> >> Thanks for the explanation and the belief that I'm not often confused, >> >> grin. >> >> Sieghard had found information on their web site, which I didn't think >> to go >> >> investigate. I kind of assumed that it would have been in the app >> store >> >> description. >> >> But, yes, bluetooth beacons have been around for several years now. >> >> I just wish all the different approaches would come together into one >> >> standard. >> >> Blind Square was one of the earlier apps that I recall having worked >> out >> >> navigating this way for indoor navigation, though there were others >> before >> >> them. >> >> Now the American Printing House for the Blind is working on them and >> these >> >> Right Hear folks, etc. >> >> I know mainly that the United States is way behind other countries in >> >> adopting this kind of technology. >> >> However, some airports have begun using them. >> >> I had read about San Francisco having 500 beacons in one of their >> terminals >> >> so that a person who is visually impaired with the right app, (no >> memory of >> >> which app) could even find an outlet to recharge their devices. >> >> I think this would be perfect for places like museums, etc. I know >> some >> >> malls have them, and maybe one day they will be more wide spread. >> >> Later, >> >> Richard >> >> >> >> >> >> Check out my web site at: >> >> www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com><https://eur03.safelinks.prot >> ection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com&data=02%7C01%7C% >> 7C633c05971fbe4621637e08d6bb714c96%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa% >> 7C1%7C0%7C636902492616129219&sdata=9qG6zwn2QJ9Xe5fJyao6MewzLG36u7TAieL >> K72Tg19c%3D&reserved=0><https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com >> /?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C633c05971fbe4621 >> 637e08d6bb714c96%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C63690249 >> 2616129219&sdata=9qG6zwn2QJ9Xe5fJyao6MewzLG36u7TAieLK72Tg19c%3D&reserv >> ed=0> >> >> “The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject >> of >> >> flying. There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The >> knack >> >> lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." >> --Douglas >> >> Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59 >> >> >> >> >> >> The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they >> don't >> >> have any." -- Alice Walker >> >> >> >> >> >> On Jul 1, 2019, at 3:24 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe >> >> <alapoint...@comcast.net<mailto:alapoint...@comcast.net>mailto:alapoin >> t...@comcast.net> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi all, this Righthear App, how far can you be to locate an >> object?? I >> >> just came home from the deep woods of New Hampshire and this may have >> been a >> >> good tool for me to have. How would this differ from a wireless door >> bell >> >> system? Andy and Shubert >> >> >> >> From: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhonemailto:viphone@googlegroups.com >> >> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 4:55 AM >> >> To: >> viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>mailto:viphon >> e...@googlegroups.com >> >> Subject: Re: the right hear app >> >> >> >> Richard, (the often confused? Close brackets never! >> >> I understand that the labels are real and not virtual. if I remember >> >> correctly, as I was researching this about a year ago, but got >> distracted >> >> by other technologies along the way, The initial idea was to >> implement >> >> these tags by way of consenting businesses/services et cetera, to make >> >> public spaces more navigable. I asked them if I, as an individual, >> could >> >> obtain beacons and implement them for myself. they thought this would >> be >> >> possible, but then I moved onto other things and forgot about it. by >> the >> >> way, my current and most favourite toy is the Sunu band. this works >> with >> >> Sonar rather than Bluetooth. but back to RightHear, they are very >> >> approachable, and seek to get new partners to work with, in >> different >> >> countries. I will take a trawl through my zillions of old emails, >> never >> >> deleted, and see if I can find some of my old correspondence. but the >> main >> >> thing is this, in theory at least, this solution is much more accurate >> and >> >> is much more suitable for micro navigation, such as that which was >> raised >> >> in the original email, to find trees, postboxes, gates et cetera, Than >> GPS. >> >> We do seem to be in a particular point in time when many potential >> solutions >> >> abound, but none are quite perfected. Potential is exciting, but >> actuality >> >> is much more satisfying! >> >> Sandy. >> >> >> >> Sent from The dark side of the moon >> >> >> >> On 1 Jul 2019, at 00:28, Richard Turner >> >> <richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>mailto >> :richardturne...@outlook.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Maybe Sandy will chime in on this. I also downloaded it and there are >> no >> >> physical tags, so maybe I misunderstood her and the label was a >> virtual one, >> >> and not a physical one. >> >> Richard, the often confused >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Check out my web site at: >> >> www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com><https://eur01.safelinks.prot >> ection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com&data=02%7C01%7C% >> 7C0a189c2deee349c56c8208d6fe0e4898%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa% >> 7C1%7C0%7C636975734634054109&sdata=flZC7b0NXn5vb%2FPNFCpNO91aJqXzpFKNy >> muhhXOAiSE%3D&reserved=0><https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.c >> om/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C0a189c2deee349 >> c56c8208d6fe0e4898%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636975 >> 734634054109&sdata=flZC7b0NXn5vb%2FPNFCpNO91aJqXzpFKNymuhhXOAiSE%3D&re >> served=0> >> >> “The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject >> of >> >> flying. There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The >> knack >> >> lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." >> --Douglas >> >> Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they >> don't >> >> have any." -- Alice Walker >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Jun 30, 2019, at 1:31 PM, Dan >> >> <dbeaver...@gmail.com<mailto:dbeaver...@gmail.com>mailto:dbeaver888@gm >> ail.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> I downloaded and installed this app and tried it out. It doesn't seem >> to >> >> allow stationary labels that the app will track. What it does is >> allow one >> >> to record a voice and text label for a given GPS location. After >> doing that >> >> it includes that location in its list of near by locations. 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